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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มี.ค. 2022
- Chris "Mad Dog" Russo makes his case for the Top 5 NBA scorers in the NBA which include Pete Maravich, Kobe Bryant and Michael Jordan.
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You can tell how much SAS loves having MadDogg on the show. He’s always laughing and having a good time. Makes the show much better
Him or maybe perkins. Im cool with permanently. I'd take max back anytime
@@joekolpe9849max was awesome but no. They just don't go well together
Fact he should be the new co host! He can also match sas intensity.
The new skip
That’s bc he someone Stephen A respects plus mad dog has rank in the game .
They need to make Mad Dog permanent. The only person that keeps Stephen A in check and doesn’t defer to him..
Facts
They're made for each other 🤣
Facts
He has the personality that matches with SAS
Stephen can't out talk Mad Dog
I gotta say, I respect Mad Dog's list. I don't fully agree, but I respect it.
Me too
Kobe’s has some of the absolute best scoring performances of all time in an era where some teams still averaged 90 points a game. Averaged 30+ 7 and 7 in the playoffs as a 21 year old
Kobe will be forever disrespected on espn it will never change
@@loooneytuuness cause Kobe is the greatest of all time
@@loooneytuuness stop watching
Because it's not about points per game. It's about the EFFICIENCY in which you do it.
@@alananderson7903 kobe was hella efficient during the 2001 playoffs
Mad dog is so funny, he and Stephen A have great chemistry, he should be permanent on First Take
Rather have jj
@@beataccounts2167 mad dog is better for tv though
I agree, JJ is good but this is TV. Big Personalities bring in the big bucks. Reddick has a personality of a potato
@@varunaX why not all three?
@@nunyabusiness8498 I agree with johanzo
Mad dog yelling “LET ME FINISH” took me out 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you MadDog for including the whole history of the game. Not just 1992 and on. Some don't know the game had talent before the 90's.
fr man they think basketball started in the 90s with mj’s bulls lol
Yeah just the overall play was so much worse before the 80s then so you can't really count it as much. They had some great players that woulda been HOF in any era, but they were playing against some dogshit. The level of play increased dramatically in the 80s.
Exactly, which is why Wilt has an argument for #1 against MJ.
We need more mad dog, it’s way more fun
Love this take this generation needs to be reminded of their scoring impact at a time who barely relied on three pointers
Pistol Pete was a dog 💯 the white kyrie
Bruh shut up
Yeah. I don’t agree. It’s not about 3s v 2s it’s about career avg in points. Pete, Kareem, and whoever #3 was wouldn’t out score Lebron, Steph, or KD. Those three alone probably avg more career points than anyone on that bird except for Jordan
@@anthonytiaparker2986 Nah you cant just go by career ppg. The game is played way faster these days. Teams have way more offensive possessions which leads to more shots. You add in the spacing/zone defense and take away hand checking then there's no comparison. Steph wouldn't be steph in the 80's/90's. KD and Lebron would do good, but Lebrons not pure scorer like the others on this list.
@@tjali563 everyone’s gonna leave out Harden even though he averaged 36 pts per game had a streak of 29 30 point games in a row and back to back 50 points like just because he’s a play maker now doesn’t take away that the dude was an unstoppable scorer arguably second best scorer or first ever
Mad Dog needs to be on with Steve every day. They are a great duo like Michael and Scottie.
So which one of them secretly hates the other? 😅
@@theevilascotcompany9255 😂
Putting Maravich at #5 is a stretch but he seems to always be overlooked, largely for not being on winning teams. He invented showtime BEFORE Magic Johnson.
Yes
Curry, KD, Jerry west... Harden...tmac iverson, arenas?...
@@reimixo Arenas? 😂
@@imSLO- in his prime he could drop 30 on anybody any given night, just like tmac and Kobe at the time
@@reimixo this is a top 5 best scorers list and everyone has their own opinions but you’re the only one in the world who’s gonna Arenas on yours 😂😂😂😂
@@imSLO- i didn't say he was top 5... I Said maybe u could argue him being ahead of maravich.... While All the others I Said are ahead of both for sure...... So, he is not even in the discussion for top 10.... I would ONLY argue him like top 20 because he could Score in every way against anybody...
Pete played 26 games for the Celtics in 79, in those games he averaged about 17 minutes a game, 11.4 points a game and was shooting 75% from 3 point line. He would probably shoot a 3 every other game, he wasn't jacking them up, but still that's impressive.
With A bad knee
There’s no world where Pete is a better scorer than KD
Fr This old heads don’t know about basketball 🤦🏽♂️
Or lebron...or curry
Pistol Pete belongs on that list, he averaged 40 in. You can say the same about Kobe but they belong on that list
Well we don’t know mad dog is right there wasn’t no 3 point line so we don’t know how many points he would have gotten withs 3s added. So he probably is.
Check his NCAA record...it will never be broken.
Props to his selection of Pete Maravich. He was a WALKING BUCKET.
A true innovator too, really wish he got to play with the three point line more, dude was dropping 10-15 from 3 back in 1980 lmao
When people dribbled with one hand.
He averaged 24ppg for his career come on 😂 hes not all that very good player tho
Facts
💯
Stephen A Smith & Mad Dog is the perfect duo in sports show.
MadDogg is great!! His energy is unmatched
Mad dog and Stephan A are absolutely fantastic
Hakeem Olajuwon - Post moves and Dream Shake. David Robinson is listed as a personal reference to vouch for Dream.
Kevin Durant- Lethal
“Iceman” George Gervin -So Smooth
Larry Bird- Guy I’d want to take the last shot for my team if we need a basket to win
Bernard King- So underrated. In his prime he was a scoring machine
Great Comment
Yea outside the top 3, any of them can make the list
People forget Adrian Dantley too.. Walking bucket at his best
@@adammcg7115 uhh lebron
@@dariusisfamous2840 uhh no
The beat duo on TV..
Mad dog & Steven A are magic
Mad Dog, Mad Dog, Mad Dog... I need him on air everyday. ESPN keeps me alive...
i get that KD hasn’t put up gigantic numbers like some of these guys but at some point being the most flawless offensive weapon on the court has to matter. nobody got handles, shoots, finishes, passes, FT, all while being 7 foot, KD gotta be a top 5 scorer bro
agreed. That's why I have him at 1
Im putting him right after Jordan for sure!
Except he can’t do anything in the playoffs without a stacked team. Meanwhile, Jordan, Kobe and Lebron put up classics in the playoffs without the stacked teams KD has had.
Kd isn't top 5
@@maverick33guy95 name 5 better
Averaging 27 ppg for 19 years straight is insane
He averages 27ppg through 19 seasons, not 19 seasons in a row.
@@ebenezerindi1766 You know what he mean goofy🤡
@@ebenezerindi1766 27 ppg a season is avg for an mvp, their are players in the prime that peak higher than 28pts
I can’t believe KD isn’t on that list. He is lethal. The most skilled scorer I have ever seen and I’ve seen them all. Inside, outside, mid range, long range, anyway you want it he will give it to you. Most big time scorers get their buckets by going to the line and he KD doesn’t need to.
He’s not better than any of those players
I debate that he being a perimeter player mostly is probably the most effecient and versatile scorer we have ever seen... Mike is the best scorer because of how he score in big moments .... But kd tools is crazy
You can stop Lebron with J.J. Barea tho.
KD can't replace anyone on that list but Pete lol
@@GOATGamingAndSports huh 😂kd shoots better from everywhere on the field then Kobe while taking less shots
Love seeing Pete Maravich on somebodys list. I’d go as far as to say he’s the most underrated player in the history of basketball. Way ahead of his time. Would be great in todays NBA
He dies not belong in this list tho 🤷🏾♂️ over Melo KD , Steph lol
@@brandonsanders3212 lol he definetly belongs over melo. You don't understand how big of a deal college basketball was back then.
@@poocrayon4588 melo so overrated😑, even wade a better scorer
@K Totci You could easily say the same thing about Wilt, bud. And Elgin Baylor since all of the greatest scoring 2 guards of their era followed his mold, from Baylor to Dr J to Jordan, then Kobe. Read up.
I love Mad Dog reppin' Old School players! He's the PERFECT foil to Stephen A.
@ag you want Stephen A not want Co host ever again.
@ag what about the NFL intellect on the Show somebody need to do both.
Make mad dog permanently on this show.
I love the historical references mad dog brings. Thank you, Sir.
I just knew Steven A would go like “Kevin Durant, career 27 per game scorer, 6 11 wingspan…” He’s simply in love with KD 😂
I was disappointed when he didn’t say “that can pull up from thurrrrrrrrrrrty🤣
@@tombleencomedian1935 💀 💀 “the brother is sensational” 🤣
He only said the truth
@@ericrose8363 “he’s box office, he’s a basketball savant” 😁
@@carolcaua9745 I’m a KD fan too. I’m just hearing Steven A’s rant on KD since a decade and he keeps saying the same thing. 💀
No one can make Stephen A smile like Mad Dog
Skip.😂😂
Pete Maravich was great but not ALL time great, his prime was very short. KD & Lebron deserve to be on that list 100%.
KD does but LeBron doesn’t LeBron is not a top 5 scorer of all time
Lebum not a scorer
@@masterofthecraft1990 “Not a scorer” yet will retire with the most points of all time, and is top 5 all time in points per game (while also being extremely efficient). Lebron haters are pathetic lol
@@masterofthecraft1990 kobum was not a scorer see his pathetic efficiency and holds record for most missed bricks in nba history
@@masterofthecraft1990 you just simply dont know basketball sir. he has a career average of 27 points per game, on 58.7 percent true shooting, and 35.7 percent from three. It is arguable, that he is the single most unstopabble force at the rim in the history of basketball. Exceptions might be shaq or wilt, but thats neither here nor there. He will end up as the number one leading scorer in nba history, and at that point, I dont care what you say, he will have a permanent spot in the top 5 greatest scorers ever.
great list. Pete Maravich was amazing.
Bad list anytime WILT ain't number 1
KD is top 4 in regular season PPG, playoff PPG and finals PPG all while shooting at an efficient rate. He’s gotta be top 5
#2 behind MJ
My list will be Jordan, Durant, Chamberlain, Kobe and Lebron. I see these guys are the most unstoppable scorers that play winning basketball. Curry is great but more stoppable than these guys in my opinion.
I agree
No Kareem?
@@stefancarter5014 as a scorer,ni give Kobbe an edge over Kareem because of his ability to score from all over the court
Man y’all crazy LeBron is not a top 5 scorer
Preach 💯
I’ve never heard anyone of any generation bring up Pistol Pete in a greatest scorers convo 😂😂
I just looked up some of his old videos. Pistol Pete was🔥🔥🔥... but he's not top 5. Maybe top 15 tho
It’s a first for me too 😭😭 but mad respect tho cause he was good
Because you're a casual and dont know basketball
Check out his NCAA record and learn
But in college he averaged 44 lol
Nah I respect it, I wouldn't personally but I'm not mad at it.
Love Madd Dog on FIRST Take with Stephen A.
For people not familiar with Maddog Russo he's a legend in New York sports talk radio. It's no surprise that SAS likes him and the chemistry is where it is.
Anthony Mason is not on the list!
Good stuff. Maddog actually gives history lessons everytime he’s on. Great Duo for the show. I may be the only guy that will say this but when it comes to scoring I’ll have to put Keem the Dream over Wilt. I would also have to put Benard King in my top 5 far as Scoring
you mean HAKEEM THE DREAM OLAJUWON!??????
Only change I would make is swopping out Wilt for Steph Curry and Pete Maravich for Jerry West. I get the scoring numbers are one sided but for ME if you going to list "scorers" that should be players that with the game on the line, who do you give the ball to to get you a bucket.
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Stephen Curry
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Jerry West
81 points , 65 against Portland, 62 on Dallas in 3 quarters , 61 on the Knicks , 60 on Memphis, 60 in his last game of his career, 55 on Jordan including 42 points in the first half. 4 straight 50 point games the next game he had 43. He dropped 58 on the bobcats and fouled out Kobe was on another level
problem was these were all regular seaosn games where his teams were basically garbage. He doesnt have signature playoff moment or series else hd be even higher IMO
The buzzer beater on Phoenix , 2010 Western conference finals. 2009 NBA finals. 48 on the kings lol
So what were Jordan's teams before Scottie arrived? Bird had a hall of fame starting line up? Magic played with the greatest Center of all time, Wilt played with Jerry West in a 9team league. Name one player Kobe played with that could bring the ball up the court and get his own shot? Kobe played with 1 elite player his whole career Pau Gasol was never elite. Whenever you gave Kobe a solid team he always came thru never needed a big three.
@@koretv1581 lol.... Wrong
The media act like kobe wasn't that dude, it's funny how the current and formal nba players have him in high regard though
How did they disrespect him?
A list without KD is not a good list period
overhyped and overrated
KD is a take it or leave it on these lists.
Facts
@@YungPhilosopher He has 4 Scoring Titles which is tied for 3rd all-time. Tf are you talking about
@@NickA_1992 Bro people just be saying anything 🤦♂
I was surprised that Kevin Durant was not in his list for the greatest scorers ever
He’s an old head so why be surprised. Kd is a top 3 scorer ever no debate tho
@@Howdidhenotseeme thank you. No one in league history can score better from All 3 levels better than KD. He’s top 3 all time
@@svrmanrawnxt Its both that and he being the most ungaurdable because hes 7ft tall. 3 level scorer + efficiency + 7 ft
@@Howdidhenotseeme 1000% agree. Mad dog just old so he hates on the new gen
make mad dog full time, him and sas make this show fun to watch and interesting. also, marcus and kp as well. both very good.
Mad Dog is all the way box office. The way he stands with his hands folded together such a class act! Reminds me of Silvio Dante from the Sopranos ahahaha
Unpopular opinion: Averaging more PPG doesn't make you a better scorer, just a more prolific scorer
KD is number 1 all time in my eyes as a scorer
I know what you mean in terms of overall arsenal but surely being more prolific means you’re better? As long as you get points it doesn’t really matter how. MJ is the GOAT scorer
I was surprised that they changed the rule a long time ago that total points for the season does not get you the scoring title. It’s ppg. How stupid?!?
KD cant be number one, he gets bothered by aggressiveness. MJ never would've gotten shut down by tony Allen or Tayshaun Prince like KD did
@@raypurchase155 then why isn't Kareem your 🐐 scorer, or LeBron? They've gotten the most points in NBA history, so by your definition they're the greatest scorers ever. Doesn't matter how you get your points, right?
@@raypurchase155 fg% is just as important tho. Any star could bomb up 30 shots a game and average 35-40ppg. And i disagree that mj is the greatest scorer. I think kd and curry are the best pure scoring talents the league has ever seen.
KD outside the top 5 is absolutely hilarious to me, It should honestly be a criminal offense.
Man put wilt and pistol Pete above KD and Lebron 💀💀
Agreed
@@skywalker2676 I agree with kd but bron not a scorer he even said so himself
@@93vibezz he not a natural scorer, but he still one of the best scorers of all time and FOR SURE better than petrte maravich at least ...
@@goncaloribeiro8796 I wouldn’t say he’s for sure better he’s at the top of the scoring list more so because of how long he has played Pete could actually score in a lot of different ways lebron mostly scores off points in the paint
Mad Dog is the best…I love this guy!
I can work with this list that Chris "The Mad Dog" Russo made--mainly because Michael Jordan is #1 & as a Chicago Bulls fan, that makes me happy, but, that's another story for another time.
Here's my list:
1) Michael Jordan.
2) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
3) Kobe Bryant.
4) Wilt "The Stilt" Chamberlain.
5) George "The Ice-Man" Gervin.
Elgin Baylor & Pete "The Pistol" Maravich are honorable mentions, in my book--as great as they were in their own respective rights.
Mad Dog is doing such a good job. He’s a real nba historian. I don’t think SAS understands what a scorer is. He brings up the attributes and characteristics that Durant have and is capable of while Mad Dog is bringing up facts and of what these players actually did…. He’s 7 foot , has a 100 ft wing blah blah SO WHAT!!!!
So what?are you serious 4 scoring titles, career 27. 2 points per game scorer, on 50/38/88 splits.💀
Kd in terms of ability to score the basketball should be up there. Period. The ability to score from every part of the court is arguably unmatched combined with the fact that all that ability lives in a 7 foot frame making him virtually unblockable.
Going by what you said, then lebron should definitely be in that list no??
@@cumbusta9175 did you watch the first round series with Boston.
@@GinoValsaint that’s 1 series🤦🏾♂️💀 out of the 31 other series he dominated in💀💀
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I like this topic many great names that can be argued for actual good debate! Love it
Anyone who says kobe is debatable lost all credibility. I got kobe at number 2. When it came to guarding him he was always an absolute nightmare 1 on 1
i love pete but im putting kD over him KD is a once in a lifetime player we will never see someone like him again for a long time. But honestly you could argue Kobe being the best scorer just because the difficulty of shots dude was making over multiple defenders
If that’s the argument then I’m putting Kyrie bc Kyrie hits way more tough shots than Kobe. And KD makes way more contested jumpers than both of them
Stop it Kobe shouldn't even be on the list
@@theetruth8626 lmaoooo you’re tripping on something
I don't really mind it - but what I do mind is that he's about Iceman, who played in the same era and scored more AND on better efficiency
@@theetruth8626 u bugging
Mad Dawg I love the history. All are legitimate. Mad Dawg said God couldn’t have stopped Pistol that night!😂😂😂 Great addition to First Take👍🏿
Bro these two together be having me in tears
This show is so much better with mad dog; it was borderline unwatchable before. Love some history finally and like others have said, you can tell SAS is having fun
LeBron is literally the most underrated scorer of all time. Mans is averaging 30 a game in his 19th season and people still don’t think of him as a scorer.
Stat pads
@@tonis8180 averages the same points as kd for his career on one more shot lol
@@tonis8180 I guess wilt is not a scorer because he stat pads 🤷🏾♂️
Kobe in his prime, was scoring 40 a game in a low scoring league. In my eyes kobe as a scorer can only be second to MJ but KD is up there for sure.
He is not higher then lebron. Lebron averages more points then kobe for a career and was way more efficient then kobe
harden must be on there too then, harden mj and wilt are the only players to ever average 36
@@amdude1015 only casuals think that bro Tracy mcgrady is a better scorer then Lebron let’s be honest
@@amdude1015 And he does it in the regular season, playoffs, and finals too.
@@kobeisthegoat332 calling me a casual, but you brough up Tracy mcgrady?? A very inefficient scorer that’s averages 19ppg for a career?
Bron doesn’t even have a season below 20ppg.
I love this duo. It's must see TV
Yo sometimes I feel like Mad Dog puts things on this list just to troll Stephen A. Lmaooo like the list or not, it’s great television 🤣🤣🤣
He was trolling tf outta Stephen A with that Pete marevich BS lmaooo
SAS saying Kobe is debatable get him tf off the air plz
You put Kyrie in Pete’s era and his averaging 60 ppg 🤧🤦🏽♂️ KD should be top 5 too
On God
“Badr Hari” exactly but the causals don’t understand this.
U put Kyrie in Pete’s era he wouldn’t be Kyrie🤦🏾♂️
@Badr Hari exactly. So stfu saying they were better. Weren’t at all
@Badr Hari that’s funny because there was no Kevin Durant before Kevin Durant. Sooo you can’t call that
This two has chemistry hahaha mad dog should be a regular in this show
Great list
Speaking of all-time greatest scorers, you HAVE to include MJ, Wilt, Kobe and KD.
As for the last spot on a top 5 list, there are several contenders: Kareem, James Harden, Allen Iverson, LeBron James, Steph Curry, Jerry West, George Gervin and even T-Mac.
Pete Maravich was a great scorer, but should be somewhere around 20th place.
Kobe bricked a lot. I ain’t having him in top 5.
Kobe? Nahh… He chucked up a lot of garbage in the Finals most years. Shaq had more of a right to be on that list than Kobe
Why kd over bron? Bron avg the exact same as him lmao 🤣
So kobe haters are back
Thank you for mentioning Tmac. People sleep on his scoring ability
Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, & KD most versatile scores of all time. All them centers did was post up & dunk FOH
Naw fr
Different era different rules. The league did them bigman dirty because smaller ball style made a great entertainment.
scoring is scoring fam. Nobody gcares how you get the ball in the basket
@@koretv1581 Finally, someone with good logical reasoning.
I'd include your list but if you say all Hakeem The Dream did was dunk, then you need to go back and watch that man play. He had so many post moves to go along with his mid range jumper, he was a nightmare for Shaq to guard. Of course the man could dunk too, but I'm just saying...he did much more than just dunk.
While i do not agree with mad dog's list i gotta say, it's good for younger generations to learn about these old school ballers and how much they mean to the game even today
These two together are GOLD
Nice list MadDogg! Him being added on the show has been really entertaining lol
My top 5 scorers of all time 1. Michael Jordan 2. Wilt Chamberlain 3. Kobe Bryant 4. Kevin Durant 5. LeBron James
Nah kobe too high. He was a very high volume scorer but was inefficient. Kd and curry have to be top 5.
Kobe shouldn’t be top 5 anything
We need these guys full time
Love the inclusion of Pete Maravich. One of the best and underrated scorers of all time!
Big Mad Dog strikes again!!!!! This got knows the game and is hilarious. Don’t agree with everything but it’s always debatable and not a reach. Keep him on!
I like the fact that mad dog is really old school and shows the love to those players who get overlooked during these modern times?
The man completely disrespected WILT CHAMBERLAIN nobody over him
@@theetruth8626 he's atleast put Him in Top 3 of all time clutch scorers get over it.
I love Stephen A and that’s why I watch espn but now,I love mad dog as well HAHAHA
Glad to see that someone is FINALLY giving Pistol the respect he deserves!
Jordan, Kobe ,KD, curry and kyrie best scorers my eyes have seen by far
The NBA has 75 years of history, MAD DOG does a good job making sure we don’t forget about it!!
LET ME FINISH!! Love Mag Dog.
I like the pistol pete selection. He was a bucket. Saw a video of him playing horse and was impressed
The list order is eh, but we need more respect on Pete Maravich, in the 70’s you could argue he was easily a top 3 player with Kareem, and Walt Frazier
These 2 together is Awesome
Truly agreed to Stephen A and Mad Dog's top 1 in their list of top 5 NBA scorers, couldn't agree more.
Kobe has got to be the most disrespected NBA player ever - this is RIDICULOUS
Nah ESPN is jordan bus rider, when i saw they put jordan over wilt and kareem nahh enough with ESPN, back to TNT
@@mistakench7312 No way in world I'm picking them over jordy
Appreciate mad dog giving a shout out on older guys
Mad Dogg energy is a breath fresh air for all of us when paired up with S.A.S
Mad dog should replace Max as the permanent co host! I like the chemistry between him and Stephen Smith!
I'm dying to know how much they get paid to disrespect kobe
Cant tell if I’m watching a basketball video of a history video whenever Mad Dog is on
I love these two together
I’m taking Kobe over Kd dude was unstoppable
My Top 5 list
1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Larry Legend
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
Honorable mentions- Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Hakeem Olajawon and Elgin Baylor
Larry Bird🤡😂
Durant all day
From my eyes here’s my list (I’m 33)
Jordan
Kobe
Durant
Bird
Lebron
Carmelo Honorable Mention
These 2 are hilarious together 🤣🤣🤣
MJ, KD, Kareem, Wilt, Kobe. In that order.
Lebron, Carmelo, Steph, Harden, Elgin, Baylor, Gervin, honorable mention.
durant ??
This man is stuck in the 70s and he don't wanna leave 🤣🤣
That what makes it interesting
People played basketball in the 70s and 60s didn't they u not that goofy is u how u think everyone else learn how to play they copy the players from the 60s and 70s so obviously they was great because everyone stole their moves
respect to Mad Dog for putting Kobe on this list!! 🔥🔥🔥
Truth be told this list needs to turn into a top 10 scorers list!
I don't know if Mad Dog has a contract with ESPN but I would love to see him go up against Skip Bayless. Call it The Battle of the Boomers. Hahaha
If Kobe's prime was in the social media era he would have been bigger his coach didn't play rookies , and he had to wait his turn the first 3 years therefore the numbers are schewed
Not to mention he had the share the ball with the most dominant big man in NBA history. 1999-2000 season to 2012-2013 season that was Kobe's Prime
Shaq is not more dominant than wilt common man. Wilt was so dominant the league was changing rules left and right to stop him. N this is against the Jerry west Lakers and bill Russell celtics