Just wanted to say thank you to Den . I've been out a few times with no luck ledgering . I found this method the other day and thought I would try it . Anyways come back yesterday after landing a a nice big bream and some perch using this method . Sometimes the simpler tactics just work better and this was one of those times . I only fish a river that's not so deep so this was perfect for hitting the bottom but still having a visual focal point . Really great info if you want to get into float ledgering .
@@FishingwithDen will be watching more when I've got the time . One issue I kept having yesterday was my float kept going sideways rather than upright . I couldn't figure what was causing it ? Any ideas ? I am tempted to try a Polaris and see how that fares .
Thanks, Den Your videos give practical and down-to-earth information. I made some floats and potato pellets heeding your instructions, and they worked. Please find time to do a video on loading line on to a fixed spool reel. Regards from a fellow ex-pat, but in South Africa. Ken Fish (yes really)
Great video mate very well done and good quality and good quality also very helpful advice and easy to understand stand your way of setting up this wonderful way of fishing cannot wait to have a go myself keep up the great videos and good luck to you totally awesome
Just had a session using waggler float ledger , not used it for years , swirling 20mph wind . Never fished for carp with the method before , must have hit on right set up , as they hooked themselves -never had that before . I was trying out Cralusso "match sinking" line , not really self sinking but seems easier to sink than most . What did help , was I had tied up rigs and put them on pole rig holders as I know the depth of the swims -I connected the loop of the rig to the main line with one of Cralusso's mini swivel connectors , this acted as a back shot and helped a lot sinking the line . Only a few big carp in the lake , mostly 4-8oz though .
Thank you for showing that old school method..is that what was called stret pegging. When you said you were going to fish it more over depth around 6:40 fine tuning was that over depth from the bomb or the hook, if that makes sense. Normally when pluming with a plummet on the hook over depth would be from the hook.. cheers
Hi Rob. Stret Pegging is completely different mate. That is something which is done in rivers. I would also have been talking about going over depth from the bomb to the float. I hope that helps.
As usual, an excellent video Den! I imagine you said a few words under your breath when you lost the first one (hence the “GoPro stop recording”) , but you got your rewards in the end! Keep them coming!
Good finish, i will be trying that method, also nice to see someone with the reel handle the same side as i use mine ( and i am not left handed) are you?
Great vid Den great idea will definitely try it ,Loved the vid on lift bite's can't do that with this and a great fish to finish on I don't suppose you know of a good strong landing net 4 mitre handle not to much money and a good catapult for firing out goundbait Cheers mate. love the vid's.
Thanks Alan. I'm afraid I'm in the same boat as you with the Landing net handle, so if you find one, please let me know. I'm still using a 3.3metre Drennan handle I bought years ago. As for the groundbait catapult, I never use one, so I have been of no assistance whatsoever on this occasion mate. :)
I have the locslide floats , but I don't like them for shallower water as they dive in and I feel that could spook fish -they are good as a "lazy mans" slider float in deeper water -yep -you can pin them with float stop , but I use standard floats for the shallow swims . The reason we used this set up years back , was there were no "ledger" rods , there were Avon rods but we couldn't afford em , 1 float rod was all we had to do everything - not ideal for ledgering -hence weight and float system . Float ledger, lift float rig , slider float rig , stick float , waggler , bubble float - all allow a one rod angler to deal with conditions on the day .
None of the waters I fish have been stocked Kieran. They are all natural waters and there is no charge to fish them.. The vast majority of fish in them have never seen an anglers bait before.
@@FishingwithDen Thanks Den, is good situation you have got then if you are on to fish that are not often fished for, are carp widespread in Australia? And do you ever fish for any of the native freshwater species?
@@AcousticEve It's great to be able to turn up at a fishery and know that you are going to be the only one there Kieran. Local anglers don't really fish for Carp. There a few exceptions, but mostly they are interested in native species. Personally, I love to catch the Mullet, but occasionally I like to use a lure for Flathead. I also sometimes catch Brim (Bream) and Bass on baits intended for Carp. As for how widespread Carp are, they are certainly in most of the states, but Queensland and the Northern Territory seem to have hardly any.
I wonder if you could combine this with a method feeder? Usual inline method feeder but leave the hooklink swivel OUT of the feeder to allow sliding... Thinking about it I think fish mostly pull upwards on a short method feeder link so therefore being free running still wouldn’t stop the bolt effect. Might have some mixed results however, point being more sensitive bite indication than a rod tip
I can imagine this would work well in a very weedy lake where the you need the line to go above weed. Without the risk of a long trailing length of line landing in the weed with a waggler.
I love my waggler fishing. But then I found out about this technique. So i tried it today and hated casting this rig. I set the depth, pinned the waggler between a stopper and a small split shot to offset the carrying capacity of the float right under it. I then added my main running lead right above the swivel and it casted sooo terribly. Maybe I should try it your way next time because I assume I did it wrong. * and i was using a loaded float. Probably shouldn’t have done that either.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your last comment Vypren. By using a loaded float, you would have unbalanced the rig. The bomb at the bottom of the rig and the loading in the base of the float would have acted against each other and probably caused the float to try and go forward of the lead on the cast. You should also bear in mind that a loaded float has less buoyancy left in it to counteract wind and the surface tow, which would probably result in your float being pulled under if there is a good surface tow. I would recommend something like a 3AAA unloaded float as a good start point. You should also not use a fine tip in these floats as you need the buoyancy of a thicker, more buoyant tip in adverse conditions. I hope that helps mate.
For the most part, I agree with you David. I tend to do the same thing, but some of my viewers have asked about this method, so I did the video in response to their requests. Some people just like to watch the float going under, so if this helps them I'm happy.
Excellent. I used a float with a feeder 40 years ago. I prefer watching a float to a rod tip.
Btw. Your voice is a dead ringer for Melvyn Bragg :-)
Just wanted to say thank you to Den . I've been out a few times with no luck ledgering . I found this method the other day and thought I would try it .
Anyways come back yesterday after landing a a nice big bream and some perch using this method .
Sometimes the simpler tactics just work better and this was one of those times . I only fish a river that's not so deep so this was perfect for hitting the bottom but still having a visual focal point .
Really great info if you want to get into float ledgering .
@@yorkietipper1606 I’m glad my videos are helping you mate. Tight lines.👍
@@FishingwithDen will be watching more when I've got the time . One issue I kept having yesterday was my float kept going sideways rather than upright . I couldn't figure what was causing it ? Any ideas ? I am tempted to try a Polaris and see how that fares .
@@yorkietipper1606 Its difficult to say what the problem is without actually seeing what you're doing I'm afraid.
@@FishingwithDen no problem appreciate the honesty . Tight lines .
Thanks, Den
Your videos give practical and down-to-earth information. I made some floats and potato pellets heeding your instructions, and they worked. Please find time to do a video on loading line on to a fixed spool reel.
Regards from a fellow ex-pat, but in South Africa.
Ken Fish (yes really)
Much appreciated Ken. Thank You. I have the reel loading video on my list, but somehow I haven't gotten around to it yet
3 years ago and I must have watched it 30 times 😊 very good
Thanks Paul.😁😁👍👍
Another great tip. I will trie this method on river mullets when the wind gets on my way.
Your videos have been massively helpful 👍 very clear to follow and we'll explained. Thank you
Thanks Andy. I'm glad you found them useful
Hi Den, thanks for the great video. I’ve used the locslide variety of float for this type of fishing, good fun.
What a great finish to a good days fishing. another great vid.
Thanks Phillip. I was starting to wonder where the big fish had gone.
@@FishingwithDen Rain can do that some times
it must be an old school thing because i hate fishing under a brolly. i love watching your videos. thanks Den keep up the good work
I used to say "Brollies are for wimps' Martyn, but not anymore. Lol.
Great video Den well explained too. Thanks
I see you went from the Polaris video to this one then Geoff. Thanks for watching it.
Fantastic video, I’m going to start watching all your other videos now.
Thanks mate. I hope they help.
thank you for a brillant video and your tips . the best on you tube .
Great video mate very well done and good quality and good quality also very helpful advice and easy to understand stand your way of setting up this wonderful way of fishing cannot wait to have a go myself keep up the great videos and good luck to you totally awesome
High praise indeed Paul. Thanks
Great vid thanks - can't wait to try this method!
Great Den, i am learning something today great video.. thanks
Hi Elo. Thanks mate.
Just had a session using waggler float ledger , not used it for years , swirling 20mph wind . Never fished for carp with the method before , must have hit on right set up , as they hooked themselves -never had that before . I was trying out Cralusso "match sinking" line , not really self sinking but seems easier to sink than most . What did help , was I had tied up rigs and put them on pole rig holders as I know the depth of the swims -I connected the loop of the rig to the main line with one of Cralusso's mini swivel connectors , this acted as a back shot and helped a lot sinking the line . Only a few big carp in the lake , mostly 4-8oz though .
I'm glad it worked out well for you Jaques. Or should I just revert to 'Jack' Lol.
Thank you for showing that old school method..is that what was called stret pegging. When you said you were going to fish it more over depth around 6:40 fine tuning was that over depth from the bomb or the hook, if that makes sense. Normally when pluming with a plummet on the hook over depth would be from the hook.. cheers
Hi Rob. Stret Pegging is completely different mate. That is something which is done in rivers. I would also have been talking about going over depth from the bomb to the float. I hope that helps.
Cracking video Den thanks
No worries Paul. I'm glad you liked it.
As usual, an excellent video Den! I imagine you said a few words under your breath when you lost the first one (hence the “GoPro stop recording”) , but you got your rewards in the end! Keep them coming!
Thanks Stephen. You're absolutely right, I sometimes have to do some nimble editing after the session. Nobody's perfect, especially me. lol.
I have a few locslide floats that I use sometimes on one of my club waters which is about 25’ deep. It’s an enjoyable way to fish it.
It certainly makes it easier mate.
Thanks for an interesting video! Are you fishing a river or stillwater in the video?
Thanks for your comments mate. It's a stillwater.😁👍
Very enjoyable! I’ve intended try the float ledger set up but haven’t yet...
I think you need a bigger net! 😄
Thanks Brian. It might just be that I need a bit more talent. Lol.
Great video d
Thanks mate.
Nice monster finale after all those tiddlers. 😁👍👍 Yu'll have to do a vid on your brollie set up. 🙂
Hi John. I've had that Brolly for 5 years and only used it once until this past few weeks. It's done nothing but rain here lately..
Good finish, i will be trying that method, also nice to see someone with the reel handle the same side as i use mine ( and i am not left handed) are you?
Thanks Ron. I am most definitely left handed mate.
Great vid Den great idea will definitely try it ,Loved the vid on lift bite's can't do that with this and a great fish to finish on I don't suppose you know of a good strong landing net 4 mitre handle not to much money and a good catapult for firing out goundbait Cheers mate. love the vid's.
Thanks Alan. I'm afraid I'm in the same boat as you with the Landing net handle, so if you find one, please let me know. I'm still using a 3.3metre Drennan handle I bought years ago. As for the groundbait catapult, I never use one, so I have been of no assistance whatsoever on this occasion mate. :)
Ok mate Thanks.
I have the locslide floats , but I don't like them for shallower water as they dive in and I feel that could spook fish -they are good as a "lazy mans" slider float in deeper water -yep -you can pin them with float stop , but I use standard floats for the shallow swims . The reason we used this set up years back , was there were no "ledger" rods , there were Avon rods but we couldn't afford em , 1 float rod was all we had to do everything - not ideal for ledgering -hence weight and float system . Float ledger, lift float rig , slider float rig , stick float , waggler , bubble float - all allow a one rod angler to deal with conditions on the day .
I think you had the same fishing background as me then Jaques.
Den who stocked this pond?
None of the waters I fish have been stocked Kieran. They are all natural waters and there is no charge to fish them.. The vast majority of fish in them have never seen an anglers bait before.
@@FishingwithDen
Thanks Den, is good situation you have got then if you are on to fish that are not often fished for, are carp widespread in Australia? And do you ever fish for any of the native freshwater species?
@@AcousticEve It's great to be able to turn up at a fishery and know that you are going to be the only one there Kieran. Local anglers don't really fish for Carp. There a few exceptions, but mostly they are interested in native species. Personally, I love to catch the Mullet, but occasionally I like to use a lure for Flathead. I also sometimes catch Brim (Bream) and Bass on baits intended for Carp. As for how widespread Carp are, they are certainly in most of the states, but Queensland and the Northern Territory seem to have hardly any.
Hi Den, what country do you live in ?
I retired to Australia about 5 years ago Craig. That's why I'm not wrapped up in my Winter wooolies :)
I wonder if you could combine this with a method feeder? Usual inline method feeder but leave the hooklink swivel OUT of the feeder to allow sliding...
Thinking about it I think fish mostly pull upwards on a short method feeder link so therefore being free running still wouldn’t stop the bolt effect. Might have some mixed results however, point being more sensitive bite indication than a rod tip
I've never tried a Method Feeder with it, but I find a standard Cage Feeder works great.
I can imagine this would work well in a very weedy lake where the you need the line to go above weed. Without the risk of a long trailing length of line landing in the weed with a waggler.
Exactly right. I have just done a new video which will be published soon that also mentions this point.😁😁👍👍
I love my waggler fishing. But then I found out about this technique.
So i tried it today and hated casting this rig.
I set the depth, pinned the waggler between a stopper and a small split shot to offset the carrying capacity of the float right under it. I then added my main running lead right above the swivel and it casted sooo terribly.
Maybe I should try it your way next time because I assume I did it wrong.
* and i was using a loaded float. Probably shouldn’t have done that either.
I think you hit the nail on the head with your last comment Vypren. By using a loaded float, you would have unbalanced the rig. The bomb at the bottom of the rig and the loading in the base of the float would have acted against each other and probably caused the float to try and go forward of the lead on the cast.
You should also bear in mind that a loaded float has less buoyancy left in it to counteract wind and the surface tow, which would probably result in your float being pulled under if there is a good surface tow.
I would recommend something like a 3AAA unloaded float as a good start point. You should also not use a fine tip in these floats as you need the buoyancy of a thicker, more buoyant tip in adverse conditions.
I hope that helps mate.
im always open to advice and i have been fishing for over 45 yrs ! i can not see the point to this ! in my opinion its either float or ledger !
For the most part, I agree with you David. I tend to do the same thing, but some of my viewers have asked about this method, so I did the video in response to their requests. Some people just like to watch the float going under, so if this helps them I'm happy.
@@FishingwithDen ok mate good video i must say and thanks for the reply kind regards david
I guess the only real advantage would be the ability to evade liners or use when the bites are shy