Oh man, shout-out to the legendary late folk musician of the 1960s Phil Ochs ! Arguably one of the most revolutionary yet incredibly underrated artists of the era--or, I would even posit, American history ! Thank you for giving him a worthy and much-deserved mention !
I saw video of the McCarthy for President headquarters when the coverage switched to announcements over the sound system saying “Is there a doctor in the house!” RFK had been shot. The young volunteers for Eugene McCarthy were weeping openly and the emotion was so raw and so real. It was a shit night in America. Goddamn. Just Goddamn.
Learning so much about my country from this podcast: I was 7 yrs. old in 1968 living a few hours from Chicago. Also had 2 brothers in Vietnam; & 2 siblings in high school. Dominic is right that middle America who didn't follow the news had no idea how much drama was going on!!
I love this duo. Lived in the 2nd city late 80s/early 90s, I remember going through the magnificent mile hearing the echoes of the 60s clashes, a truly haunted place. 😢
You should note that the police resentment toward the college-attending demonstrators was very much heightener because college students were not being drafted, while toe sons of the police were being drafted and sent to Vietnam, where the war was at its peak. It is also true that some of the demonstrators threw glass bottles and bags of excrement (remember, they did not have a permit to spend nights in the Parks and there were no facilities there) at the cops. Most demonstrators did not do this, but some did, and it really set off the cops. On the night of the final Battle of Grant Park, my 16 yr old sister was in Humphrey's headquarters because The Supremes were performing there, and my mother had to drive through the melee to get her; no cell phones back then so it was hard to arrange a meet. Meanwhile, a cousin was among those pushed through the restaurant window at the Conrad Hilton. Meanwhile, some friends and I were driving through Michigan, having cut short a road trip to Montreal and Toronto, to be with our families.
Terrific episode. You'd think that the coming and goings of this last year in American politics were unprecedented but there have been plenty of fireworks in the past!
I turned 17 in 1968 and read about the assinnations of Martin Liuther King and Robert Kennedy, and the election of Richard Nixon as President in the Time and Newsweek magazines. Tom was born that year and Dominic was still being cultivated! Thanks guys for a great historical account 😂
I’ve been listening to the podcast for a while and I know you probably won’t read this but this is f**king amazing, you make these topics so interesting, if only I had teachers like you guys x
I got lucky bro my history professors in high school and college were both way above the norm. They made it interesting and informative. Could answer any questions or would get back to you with an answer next class. My all time favorite class.Shout out to Knox and big Stephan.✌️
Dominic, a sincere thank you for providing sober commentary during the Goalhanger coverage of the US elections. It was nice to be able to hear someone make sense of Trump's success without being excited about it.
Wow, you guys are doing an amazing job! This episode draws an intelligible historical line for me from WWII to 1968. The Absurdism that was born from the loss, devastation (in Europe), and dissolution of racial barriers (in America) of WWII breaks out of the college classroom into the streets to challenge the OTHER reaction to the war- conformity, order, and the new suburbia. Aren’t the yippies’ pigs a lot like Ionesco’s rhinoceroses?
It was very important that Chicago had huge multi-day riots in the wake of the MLKing assassination 4 months earlier, which colored everything that Daley and the police thought and did when confronted by the threat of another enormous riot.
Bobby Seale .Real O.G. Rip. You live in Luigi. Power to the people. One of my favorite American history stories is the rich Roc gave half of his money away not to be eaten alive by the people. Point was made without killing them and they remained a big name in history.Love this content.
What a dreadful era that was! Thank you so much for this series. I've really looked forward to each episode & appreciate you both sharing this with us.
I imagine the story is appophrical but I hope it's true! "Long live the proletariat" yells a Yippie as a police officer beats him. "I am the proletariat" responds the police officer.
1968 was also the year the beatles' white album was released and hit number one in america; among the buyers of the white album was one charles manson who saw in the lyrics of the songs on the albums personal messages to him to start a violent racial war.
My dad claimed he was walking home from football practice when the police riot broke out, and the police stormed past him to beat the tar out of anyone that ran away but he and his buddies that were calmly walking away were ignored. Almost like the police triggered a response to the sight of prey on the flight and fixated only on them.
Great episode, Tom and Dominic, but you overlook one important fact. Behind the deliberate foolishness of the Yippies and the freaks, there was a serious cadre of hardcore Marxists who really did want to see the Communists win in Vietnam and elsewhere. I know this because I was one of them, although in Vancouver, Canada.
As an American, I must say these guys do a great job. (I would suggest that they quit trying to speak in American accents. Leave that to Damian Lewis.) If anyone wants to read a great biography of Mayor Daley, take a look at Mike Royko's "Boss".
If you watch this podcast and other topics one of the funniest aspects is tom trying to perform various accents ranging from German, french ,American. It's part of the entertainment.
Greatest joke of all time is Norm Macdonald reporting... "Yippee! Jerry Rubin died last week.... oh wait, I'm sorry, I meant to say, 'Yippee Jerry Rubin died last week.' I'm sorry."
"The dynamic of this podcast is somebody who could be in the Yippies or somebody who would enjoy being part of the Chicago police..." Me, who started my political journey as anarchist skinhead: "Welp, i think I'm the third party now."
I love this episode. Just when you’re thinking how crazy this whole scene is you hear about Hefner walking out the door getting clubbed on the noggin and funding a book on police brutality. lol
So you're just going to forget about Bobbie Seale? It was originally the Chicago Right. " So your brother's bound and gagged and they've tied him to a chair..."
Im not 100% sure because it's been awhile but it might be #203, civil war: aftermath and legacy. That was the final episode of a multipart series on the ACW
It was very disturbing to live through, not a joke at all. The “best and the brightest “ university educated, making a mockery of the democratic process
'My fondest memories from the 1968 DNC were when Abbie Hoffman and I got stoned with Allen Ginsberg, and then we went onto the floor of the convention and started cup-checking all the squares and war pigs.' (another) little known Eugene McCarthy quote 😂
@bobtaylor170 well... my source was one Richard Nixon, but he said it from behind a rubber Jerry Rubin mask (making the statement impossible to source) His legally trickery knows no bounds
@CatFindsStuff I wasn't in danger of believing it. I long ago became convinced that as an animal, a cat lacks the integrity to be taken seriously about anything, except perhaps making your apartment unlivable because of the unexpungable smell of cat pee on the carpet.
69 year old American. The idea that the term “pigs” referencing the police was a joke is dead wrong. It may have started out that way, but it quickly devolved into a dehumanizing insult. Also you ignore the factual very strong Marxist influence within the leadership. The pro Communist chants are just one example.
A relative of mine worked as a detective in Chicago at that time. Actually in the station they used in the opening titles of Hill Street Blues. He was an awful racist. Never heard anything like it at the time. I was only a kid
You guys make history so interesting,it was a subject I hated at school and I now truly appreciate.
Thank you !
I thought Dominic was going to bite that pen in half, he was laughing so hard during Toms “hippy monologue” 😅
🤪🤣😆
It was *so* groovy.
"Yippie! Jerry Rubin died last week...
Oh, I'm sorry, that should read,
_'Yippie Jerry Rubin died last week.'_ "
-Norm Macdonald (Weekend Update)
God I miss Norm Macdonald.
😂 He was fantastic. I’ll never forget how he roasted the hell out of OJ.
One of THE BEST Norm jokes!
Norm was the best. That's the kind of undermining the powers that be that I can get behind. 😂
Brilliant
It was nice of Otto the Bus Driver from The Simpsons to read the intro to this weeks show. Hope he’s doing well.
🤣🤣🤣 Right on ! 🤙
Peace out man
😂😂😂😂😂
With a bit of Arnie in places also
Far out, man!
I typically laugh as much as I learn watching you lads, but that opening was something else. Outstanding.
These two gentlemen are superb. I thoroughly enjoy listening to them nerd out.
Thank you !
I love you guys, always makes my day when one of these drops.
Thank you so much !
The intro… simply amazing ❤
An Oscar for Tom!!
Hahahahaha, Tom's monologue is the funniest thing I've seen in a while🤣🤣💀
That opening monologue from Tom has introduced a completely new accent that until this day had never been discoverered 😀
I fell off my seat after Tom's hippy monologue. My God😂😂😂😂😂
The impression at the beginning is deserving of my like
that intro was a masterpiece
Oh man, shout-out to the legendary late folk musician of the 1960s Phil Ochs ! Arguably one of the most revolutionary yet incredibly underrated artists of the era--or, I would even posit, American history ! Thank you for giving him a worthy and much-deserved mention !
@19:02
‘I cheered when Humphrey was chosen,
My faith in the system restored’
(Love me, I’m a Liberal)
I saw video of the McCarthy for President headquarters when the coverage switched to announcements over the sound system saying “Is there a doctor in the house!” RFK had been shot. The young volunteers for Eugene McCarthy were weeping openly and the emotion was so raw and so real. It was a shit night in America. Goddamn. Just Goddamn.
Learning so much about my country from this podcast: I was 7 yrs. old in 1968 living a few hours from Chicago. Also had 2 brothers in Vietnam; & 2 siblings in high school. Dominic is right that middle America who didn't follow the news had no idea how much drama was going on!!
I love this duo. Lived in the 2nd city late 80s/early 90s, I remember going through the magnificent mile hearing the echoes of the 60s clashes, a truly haunted place. 😢
You should note that the police resentment toward the college-attending demonstrators was very much heightener because college students were not being drafted, while toe sons of the police were being drafted and sent to Vietnam, where the war was at its peak.
It is also true that some of the demonstrators threw glass bottles and bags of excrement (remember, they did not have a permit to spend nights in the Parks and there were no facilities there) at the cops. Most demonstrators did not do this, but some did, and it really set off the cops.
On the night of the final Battle of Grant Park, my 16 yr old sister was in Humphrey's headquarters because The Supremes were performing there, and my mother had to drive through the melee to get her; no cell phones back then so it was hard to arrange a meet. Meanwhile, a cousin was among those pushed through the restaurant window at the Conrad Hilton. Meanwhile, some friends and I were driving through Michigan, having cut short a road trip to Montreal and Toronto, to be with our families.
Another banger! Yippee!!!
I think Tom needs to write a 1968 supernatural YIPPEEEE horror novel where he reads the audiobook in that voice.
Love it, Tom sounds a bit like a German trying to do that American accent for some reason
This is so relevant for 2024!
Terrific episode. You'd think that the coming and goings of this last year in American politics were unprecedented but there have been plenty of fireworks in the past!
It's nice to hear about the "good old days," when love and TV were both free.
I absolutely love this pod. Thank you, gents.
Glad you enjoy it !
I turned 17 in 1968 and read about the assinnations of Martin Liuther King and Robert Kennedy, and the election of Richard Nixon as President in the Time and Newsweek magazines. Tom was born that year and Dominic was still being cultivated! Thanks guys for a great historical account 😂
Fantastic episode!
I’ve been listening to the podcast for a while and I know you probably won’t read this but this is f**king amazing, you make these topics so interesting, if only I had teachers like you guys x
I got lucky bro my history professors in high school and college were both way above the norm. They made it interesting and informative. Could answer any questions or would get back to you with an answer next class. My all time favorite class.Shout out to Knox and big Stephan.✌️
Tom’s hippy monologue sounded like a British Christopher Walken impression
Christopher Walken mixed with Otto from the Simpsons 😄
Never change Tom. Absolute mad lad…😂
Absolutely adoring this series. Great stuff!
Yes, been waiting for this
Dominic, a sincere thank you for providing sober commentary during the Goalhanger coverage of the US elections. It was nice to be able to hear someone make sense of Trump's success without being excited about it.
Sorry guys, I just had to pause this to play 'Street fighting man'. getting my groove on over here.
Wow, you guys are doing an amazing job! This episode draws an intelligible historical line for me from WWII to 1968. The Absurdism that was born from the loss, devastation (in Europe), and dissolution of racial barriers (in America) of WWII breaks out of the college classroom into the streets to challenge the OTHER reaction to the war- conformity, order, and the new suburbia. Aren’t the yippies’ pigs a lot like Ionesco’s rhinoceroses?
Taken me until you mentioned it to realise this is on TH-cam too! Needed to see that opening 😂😂
This is my first time watching and not listening on Spotify, you guys don’t look quite how I expected but I love your show!
‘Pigs, chicks, ummmmm’, the three-key-word summary
"Om"
So good to have Nigel Planer do the intro, well done chaps.
Brilliantly done 👏👏
The general public is not a fan of chaos…you are not more equal than the rest 🤷♂️
My favorite podcast
Thoroughly enjoyable episode!
I love this...... i truly appreciate your work and words.
❤😊❤
OMG that reading was a tuff one😂😂😂
Hey guys the MC5 were not a "local" band, they were from Detroit. "Kick out the Jams!"
Great show, I'm now a subscriber.
Wonderful!
Thank you !
I have no idea what Tom's on about at the start, but the social contrarian in me likes it.
I could listen to the intro over and over 😂.
It was very important that Chicago had huge multi-day riots in the wake of the MLKing assassination 4 months earlier, which colored everything that Daley and the police thought and did when confronted by the threat of another enormous riot.
That was the most unpleasant accent imitation I've ever heard. Well done Tom!😂
Comical History story telling... Brilliant!! 😂
Tommy, you missed your calling in Hollywierd 🤣
And the protest leaders will flee and leave the kids to get beaten
Fantastic!!🎉🎉🎉
One minute in - Tom, what a (pretend) badass you are! 🤣🤣🤣
The prologue. A beautiful piece of Hollywood.
Bobby Seale .Real O.G. Rip. You live in Luigi. Power to the people. One of my favorite American history stories is the rich Roc gave half of his money away not to be eaten alive by the people. Point was made without killing them and they remained a big name in history.Love this content.
Correction @ 39:25 - The MC5 was from Detroit, Michigan. It would be like saying Black Sabbath was a local band in London.
Tom, I think you have taken Dominics crown of an Accent.
Dominic at the very beginning Lol. You guys are as damn super as your content 👍🇿🇦
Wonderful stuff. Thank you!
Thank you !
That opening monologue went a little Arnold Schwarzenegger at a couple of points 😂
What a dreadful era that was! Thank you so much for this series. I've really looked forward to each episode & appreciate you both sharing this with us.
I imagine the story is appophrical but I hope it's true!
"Long live the proletariat" yells a Yippie as a police officer beats him.
"I am the proletariat" responds the police officer.
Love the Rest is History…not nearly enough to join the club, but love it nonetheless :- )
1968 was also the year the beatles' white album was released and hit number one in america; among the buyers of the white album was one charles manson who saw in the lyrics of the songs on the albums personal messages to him to start a violent racial war.
😢tom voices the American left perfectly.
Tom missed his calling as an Arnold Schwarzenegger impersonator 😂
My dad claimed he was walking home from football practice when the police riot broke out, and the police stormed past him to beat the tar out of anyone that ran away but he and his buddies that were calmly walking away were ignored. Almost like the police triggered a response to the sight of prey on the flight and fixated only on them.
I am so looking forward to the Nixon episode...and your insights
Great episode, Tom and Dominic, but you overlook one important fact. Behind the deliberate foolishness of the Yippies and the freaks, there was a serious cadre of hardcore Marxists who really did want to see the Communists win in Vietnam and elsewhere. I know this because I was one of them, although in Vancouver, Canada.
I’m new to your podcast and it’s really fascinating and entertaining. How do you both know so much about American history? Did you study in the US?
The podcast on Apple podcasts hadn't uploaded properly, it's a repeat of a previous episode
Very compelling point in the thread - ‘students were not drafted and the police had relatives who were being sent to Vietnam, so they resented them.’
@16:00, Neglected: Wavy Gravy
Found it strange tom thought it amusing what happened in Chicago 🤔🙁
As an American, I must say these guys do a great job. (I would suggest that they quit trying to speak in American accents. Leave that to Damian Lewis.) If anyone wants to read a great biography of Mayor Daley, take a look at Mike Royko's "Boss".
If you watch this podcast and other topics one of the funniest aspects is tom trying to perform various accents ranging from German, french ,American. It's part of the entertainment.
Dominic, you said the convention didn’t end well. It ended well for Nixon and the republicans.
Greatest joke of all time is Norm Macdonald reporting...
"Yippee! Jerry Rubin died last week.... oh wait, I'm sorry, I meant to say, 'Yippee Jerry Rubin died last week.' I'm sorry."
Nice intro...👏
"The dynamic of this podcast is somebody who could be in the Yippies or somebody who would enjoy being part of the Chicago police..."
Me, who started my political journey as anarchist skinhead: "Welp, i think I'm the third party now."
I love this episode. Just when you’re thinking how crazy this whole scene is you hear about Hefner walking out the door getting clubbed on the noggin and funding a book on police brutality. lol
Films to see regarding this topic?
The Trial of the Chicago 7 is probably the most recent movie about the 1968 Democratic convention violence.
So you're just going to forget about Bobbie Seale? It was originally the Chicago Right. " So your brother's bound and gagged and they've tied him to a chair..."
On a couple of occasions they've referenced an episode on 'The Lost Cause', does anyone know which episode it is?
Im not 100% sure because it's been awhile but it might be #203, civil war: aftermath and legacy. That was the final episode of a multipart series on the ACW
@@barnaclebob1182 Thanks, I'll give that a go
This not a podcast then? Supplementary format? Thx
It was very disturbing to live through, not a joke at all. The “best and the brightest “ university educated, making a mockery of the democratic process
That intro was the most horrendous beginning to any podcast ever lol.
Um, sounded kinda German trying to have an American accent, Tom. But in fairness, I cant do a British accent either
English is a Germanic language, so.... 🤷🏻♂️ 🇩🇪
Can't do an English accent? That's rather shocking innit? The King is not amused
Not just American police. I've been threatened with violence by the police in Coventry. They covered their badges too. Je suis Théo
Did you upload ‘hurty words’ on to social media ?
The SPG called themselves Maggie's private army they were thugs in uniform
Kkk Tom killed the intro
which episodes should I catch before this one?
@18:00, "giggling thru wedding" isn't 'high" because it's idiosyncratic
Dominic has read many books by the yippy’s and one from the point of view of the police. This sums up his point of view on history.
He sides with whoever's point of view he reads the least?
joss sticks? That's 19TH CENTURY level archaic.
Tam’s US accent is pure mince 😝😆🤣
'My fondest memories from the 1968 DNC were when Abbie Hoffman and I got stoned with Allen Ginsberg, and then we went onto the floor of the convention and started cup-checking all the squares and war pigs.'
(another) little known Eugene McCarthy quote 😂
He never said it. If I am wrong, please have the decency to provide the source.
@bobtaylor170 well... my source was one Richard Nixon, but he said it from behind a rubber Jerry Rubin mask (making the statement impossible to source) His legally trickery knows no bounds
@CatFindsStuff I wasn't in danger of believing it. I long ago became convinced that as an animal, a cat lacks the integrity to be taken seriously about anything, except perhaps making your apartment unlivable because of the unexpungable smell of cat pee on the carpet.
🐾🐾
69 year old American. The idea that the term “pigs” referencing the police was a joke is dead wrong. It may have started out that way, but it quickly devolved into a dehumanizing insult. Also you ignore the factual very strong Marxist influence within the leadership. The pro Communist chants are just one example.
A relative of mine worked as a detective in Chicago at that time. Actually in the station they used in the opening titles of Hill Street Blues. He was an awful racist. Never heard anything like it at the time. I was only a kid
OMG 😅😅😅😅😅