I sure do miss when these "commissioned" arts were actually called Suggestions and went into the Suggestion shop. I even have something in said shop. It's just another reminder that Alina's one of the worst things to happen to AQW, a smarter Game Lead would not have fumbled retiring the Suggestion shop and then banning commissions.
Yea I pretty much get hairstyles now, its rare i like an armour, and even when i do I’m still not sure they are worth getting. Yet with commissions there are so many good ones.
Why not put up in-game polls for commissioned sets that players can vote on? Like login there's a pop-up (make it so your account needs to be X months old to vote). Then they can prioritize the ones people like the most? It honestly just seems like a an easy way to make even more money.
6:40 No, it's not inspired by an anime, but it's something that could easily be used in an Akiba CNY event or something. They never have anything good for those events. But yeah, they're missing out on a lot of great community content by being so strict all because of a couple bad apples.
Crazy idea, but remember the artist alley. Just compile a bunch of comissions who had the most liked sets in the community and put them there. Have it where every three months or so the featured artists change that way it isn't just the same artists all the time unless another set of theirs is popular. Every three months is generous and gives AE time to flash and put it into the game.
What if they could just put a Yearly Artist Quibble (10K Chest) that is composed of All Commissioned art in that way they could have an entire year to Select , Accumulate and gain permission to the artist and to the person that commision the art. And made it a Fan Voted too to nullify the "favoritism" part.
Commissioned art *could* have a place in the game because it kind of already does (Yulgar Suggestion Shop) if implemented correctly. The problem arises when A) the sets are made exclusive to the person who commissioned them like the Black Kitsune Naval, which was just a terrible decision, and B) when there is no limit or selection process when you're commissioning an AQW artist, or in other words you **expect** your commission to be put in the game no matter what. The solution would be to raffle off a commission slot each month, and then the commissioned art gets put in the Suggestion Shop as a permanent Awesome rarity item for EVERYONE to enjoy. That way you remove the 'favoritism' aspect but still get to see your art in game if you're lucky.
I was there when I first seen the Kitsune Commander set. Literally asked that guy is that exact set coming out he said "Of course!" I waited months until TLaPD when it can that thang was crisp white. I was thinking of the whole armor cc went to the Yulgar and found the guy again asked why we cant get the black " Its mine." Fair enough but it aint really cool without the black. To this day I'm still fuming on it
especially because people are always asking for more things, y’know like how some weeks are only story updates with a wep/pet/house drops & 1 shop update, seems like when its a slow week like that, they could reach out before hand like “we’d like to add your set as a merge/drop at random when we need a little extra something for a weekly update”
Something is going on at AE, I don't want to say laziness cause I know game dev work can be hard. But they have also done the whole we've added "x" set into the no longer available collection chest sorry. So why not just extend the chest sales then...
Have to correct you about 5:15, Korey. It has happened. I've done it before. If it's an idea they like and fits a particular release well, like seasonal stuff for example, AND you suggest it well ahead of time, it *can* happen.
The problem with commission set is that you wouldn't really know if the set you commissioned is stolen from another artist or if the art was also commissioned from another artist for cheaper which was then sold to you.
Uh, not really? There are ways to know, you simply ask the artist to verify by providing sketches or WIP of the artwork they are doing for a commission. When you ask an artist to do a commission, they often provide details and information for those who wish to seek their services.
@@StarEximus you realise that the person who commissioned it would have to do that. AE can't just jump in and start requesting some random artist to show them sketches for art they didn't even commission or pay for. that's the problem.
@@oncetwice6366 That doesn't really argue my point though. I wasn't talking about AE nor anyone who hasn't commission from an artist that would demand proof that the work they make is their own and original. I am stating the point that if YOU yourself commission an artist, if you have doubts about their authenticity of such, then you simply ask them to verify that this is their own original work and not something plagiarized from someone else's work. Most artists tend to have a blog or a site that serves as their portfolio that displays all the work they made for people that they can direct people to disprove doubts.
they totally could do dwarf stuff because mounts and beast armors exist they explained it awhile ago they have a blank template base for every armor that is invisible
so many anime-style sets that are so fire, unfortunate its not going to be in-game, personally i only spend anime-style art nowadays, especially the ones that's not set to any factions(without faction emblem/tags).
Part of the problem among the team may be monetary. Imagine a particular artist becomes popular for doing commissions and is not a part of the AE network. They may push for compensation on a royalty basis, if people are spending money on Acs to purchase. Easy conversion calculation. This means that more total revenue leaves the AE team. Hence why an idea being suggested as a starting point to 'inspire' a final version is something the team is more fond of. Easier in negotiating a non-royalty situation with any artist involved.
Easiest solution would be to pay an artist a common pay amount. So say if the community likes your item and they add it in AE would pay the artist like $50 for their work. More ideas the better, but apparently AE doesn't see it that way sadly. I stopped buying ACs cause I have more than enough ACs for anything I want in the future and I have like 20k. I've been sitting on 20-30k since most of 2023-2024
I do not know for sure but I am pretty sure the artists are paid flat fees with no royalty so if the artist got a set into the game it would be like being paid twice since they got paid to make it and AE pays for it to go in game.
what i never understood is why not make a commisoned system where they send what they want but htey have to pay to get it, so like 100 dollar a set or such but to be put on a list as they have a team working on the list and it artwork
They could simply add commission sets that are most popular or most liked by the community, or polls on discord. Items should NOT have the player's name in the item title but can in the description, and the commissioner should NOT get a special variant of the item to avoid potential upset for rarity.
Now Alina wants to pretend that she doesn't have any favorites??? but she keeps approving sets from the woke community and horrible remakes, she's a liar.
Well, the problem is that the line is not set between who owns the art-the person who paid for the commission or the artist who drew it. If the person who owns the rights to the art makes the suggestion to include due art in the game, then I don't see the problem.
Players probably commissioned art from only a few artists who are generally better at art, and that art got put into the game, which made other artists butt hurt and jealous. Or if someone’s commissioned art got into the game but another players didn’t that would lead to players getting butt hurt. So they removed it altogether. Just a guess but sounds right.
When did this "commission era" happen? I think I took a break in 2018-2019 and I've returned at around late august-early september in 2023, only to find out that there had been a lot of stuff added in the game due to "commissions", most of which are rare nowadays. What the heck did I missed out and why everyone's feeling let down about no "commissioned art" coming out in the future? I missed out on the items, its history, the drama that unfolded, and its highs & lows. Edit: Like what the eff did happen during that time?
There wasn't anything particular that has happened in regards to commissioned sets, they simply stopped doing them, they used to have a Featured Artist shop back then, but at some point, AE stopped featuring any artist due to the impression that the company is playing favorites.
Yeah I recall seeing the black variant of the Kitsune Commander, I recall being upset about it being only exclusive to Lae as well as someone else just because they were the ones who made the original set in the first place. It was understandable, but at the same time, it was kind of unfair since I doubt every artist was given this privilege, and that's what perpetuates the affirmation that AE is playing favorites with certain artists. AE could have simply avoided this had they not given anymore artists personalized armors that only they can have or give them special treatment. I do however believe that they should be given the set they made for the game for free as well as being given a cut from the sales AE made from those who purchased the armor set or items. After all, it is **their** work AE is monetizing.
I think they should add Commission sets BUT Ofcourse there should be rules for it. I think AE handled that pretty badly. Just add rules in commissioned sets. Even if the artist complaints, their sets won't be ingame then but other artists that follow the rules would have their sets ingame.
The game content has become to repetitive. The armors are usually nothing I'd wear as using a male character nor do I like heavy armors which is like 60-70% of what goes into a chest lately. And the fact that every chest now has atleast ONE bankpet to increase the "valeu" of the chest is also -200 iq AE. I do not need one or two or even three new bank pet for AE to think the "value" of the chest increases. The sets you showed in this video looked FIREE. and I'd buy every single one of those sets,. but i do not buy any of the recent chests.
how can they stop adding commissioned items in game? do they really think ppl want to buy lae or despera stuff? these are bottom of the barrel artists they are sabotaging themselves considering this game's entire monetization revolves around cosmetics and the very occasional calendar class.
@@adrianstjrnfldtthe sad thing is lae is a decent artist with an eye for detail but just often makes really boring items no-one wants. Its kinda bad how every new collection chest i used to think “oh that looks cool i want thaat but i just dont want to spend ” where as now i have tons of acs (mostly though gifting) but don’t like anything. I got one armour the entire year. And its only alright.
AQW is not ROBLOX, not Second LIfe and specially not VRchat. You DON'T commission INDEPENDENT/FREELANCE Artisit to create a set for AQW. You contact AQW ARTISTS or STAFF to SUGGEST a set for the PUBLIC, granted it might not get noticed or fit the set you had in mind. because it all comes down to COPYRIGHT (which is evidently ignored since all the weeb related sets) AQW does NOT have the RIGHTS to the COMMISSIONED set because it was not made by AQW. The best thing to do with the player made/commissioned sets are to submit them in competitions where players vote, winner gets a prize wether it be AC, Cash or membership (granted it is also a good way for aqw to scout artist). Ground rules being creator of the winning set must give the rights to aqw, and participants must have the rights to their submitted sets so as to not get a third party artist involved(those that get artist to create a set for them to participate with) .
"because it all comes down to COPYRIGHT (which is evidently ignored since all the weeb related sets)" Not necessarily, all those sets are not exactly taken from other IPs, they are parodies of those IPs, a simply nod to them and thus falls under fair-use under the DMCA. Otherwise AE would have faced lawsuits a long time ago.
The way it was worded makes me think that someone on the team wasn’t happy that sets from people outside the team were being picked over theirs
There is also the hundreds of sets despera does that dont go into the game, some concepts are insane.
Some of her concepts are better than the work Alina makes her do
I sure do miss when these "commissioned" arts were actually called Suggestions and went into the Suggestion shop. I even have something in said shop. It's just another reminder that Alina's one of the worst things to happen to AQW, a smarter Game Lead would not have fumbled retiring the Suggestion shop and then banning commissions.
They banned the good ones and we only get re colors and just repeats.
AE is smart
Yea I pretty much get hairstyles now, its rare i like an armour, and even when i do I’m still not sure they are worth getting. Yet with commissions there are so many good ones.
Why not put up in-game polls for commissioned sets that players can vote on? Like login there's a pop-up (make it so your account needs to be X months old to vote). Then they can prioritize the ones people like the most? It honestly just seems like a an easy way to make even more money.
That requires extra work, AE doesn't like doing extra work. Even if it would make them money.
@@SirLacombes REAL & TRUE THO
6:40 No, it's not inspired by an anime, but it's something that could easily be used in an Akiba CNY event or something. They never have anything good for those events.
But yeah, they're missing out on a lot of great community content by being so strict all because of a couple bad apples.
Crazy idea, but remember the artist alley. Just compile a bunch of comissions who had the most liked sets in the community and put them there. Have it where every three months or so the featured artists change that way it isn't just the same artists all the time unless another set of theirs is popular. Every three months is generous and gives AE time to flash and put it into the game.
What if they could just put a Yearly Artist Quibble (10K Chest) that is composed of All Commissioned art in that way they could have an entire year to Select , Accumulate and gain permission to the artist and to the person that commision the art. And made it a Fan Voted too to nullify the "favoritism" part.
I like that idea.
i never thought id agree with something Alina said but yeah there was too much favoritism and shady shit going on, iykyk yall - Pomme
Welp bois end of an era. No commission art not money needed to be spent.
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Fr saves me some money, sounds like not many more featured sets and 10k chests being worth it in the future.
Commissioned art *could* have a place in the game because it kind of already does (Yulgar Suggestion Shop) if implemented correctly. The problem arises when A) the sets are made exclusive to the person who commissioned them like the Black Kitsune Naval, which was just a terrible decision, and B) when there is no limit or selection process when you're commissioning an AQW artist, or in other words you **expect** your commission to be put in the game no matter what.
The solution would be to raffle off a commission slot each month, and then the commissioned art gets put in the Suggestion Shop as a permanent Awesome rarity item for EVERYONE to enjoy. That way you remove the 'favoritism' aspect but still get to see your art in game if you're lucky.
I was there when I first seen the Kitsune Commander set. Literally asked that guy is that exact set coming out he said "Of course!" I waited months until TLaPD when it can that thang was crisp white. I was thinking of the whole armor cc went to the Yulgar and found the guy again asked why we cant get the black " Its mine." Fair enough but it aint really cool without the black. To this day I'm still fuming on it
Favoritism at its finest. What a stupid restriction. "I can have it, you get the worse version."
It will be good idea if they release a chest for commissions only
I guarantee you it will be the most selling chest ever
especially because people are always asking for more things, y’know like how some weeks are only story updates with a wep/pet/house drops & 1 shop update, seems like when its a slow week like that, they could reach out before hand like “we’d like to add your set as a merge/drop at random when we need a little extra something for a weekly update”
Something is going on at AE, I don't want to say laziness cause I know game dev work can be hard. But they have also done the whole we've added "x" set into the no longer available collection chest sorry. So why not just extend the chest sales then...
Have to correct you about 5:15, Korey.
It has happened. I've done it before. If it's an idea they like and fits a particular release well, like seasonal stuff for example, AND you suggest it well ahead of time, it *can* happen.
The problem with commission set is that you wouldn't really know if the set you commissioned is stolen from another artist or if the art was also commissioned from another artist for cheaper which was then sold to you.
This also happened in cs btw where the artist submitted an art which turned out to be stolen and the real owner of the art filing a DMCA on valve.
Uh, not really? There are ways to know, you simply ask the artist to verify by providing sketches or WIP of the artwork they are doing for a commission. When you ask an artist to do a commission, they often provide details and information for those who wish to seek their services.
@@StarEximus you realise that the person who commissioned it would have to do that. AE can't just jump in and start requesting some random artist to show them sketches for art they didn't even commission or pay for. that's the problem.
@@oncetwice6366 That doesn't really argue my point though. I wasn't talking about AE nor anyone who hasn't commission from an artist that would demand proof that the work they make is their own and original.
I am stating the point that if YOU yourself commission an artist, if you have doubts about their authenticity of such, then you simply ask them to verify that this is their own original work and not something plagiarized from someone else's work. Most artists tend to have a blog or a site that serves as their portfolio that displays all the work they made for people that they can direct people to disprove doubts.
shadow monarch should be a legion inspired set, the manwha uses Dage's colour pallet pretty much constantly!
such a bummer, most of the unreleased stuffs i've seen was so cool.
tbf they were whining that lanz got his set into the game and that he was being favoured by the company and that is the most likely reason
they totally could do dwarf stuff because mounts and beast armors exist they explained it awhile ago they have a blank template base for every armor that is invisible
so many anime-style sets that are so fire, unfortunate its not going to be in-game, personally i only spend anime-style art nowadays, especially the ones that's not set to any factions(without faction emblem/tags).
I guess I'm saving my ACs for nothing. I was waiting for good armors to buy.
Well, what i understand is: Alina make the explaination without explaination about why commission arts are not coming in to the game anymore.
Part of the problem among the team may be monetary. Imagine a particular artist becomes popular for doing commissions and is not a part of the AE network. They may push for compensation on a royalty basis, if people are spending money on Acs to purchase. Easy conversion calculation. This means that more total revenue leaves the AE team. Hence why an idea being suggested as a starting point to 'inspire' a final version is something the team is more fond of. Easier in negotiating a non-royalty situation with any artist involved.
Easiest solution would be to pay an artist a common pay amount. So say if the community likes your item and they add it in AE would pay the artist like $50 for their work. More ideas the better, but apparently AE doesn't see it that way sadly. I stopped buying ACs cause I have more than enough ACs for anything I want in the future and I have like 20k. I've been sitting on 20-30k since most of 2023-2024
I do not know for sure but I am pretty sure the artists are paid flat fees with no royalty so if the artist got a set into the game it would be like being paid twice since they got paid to make it and AE pays for it to go in game.
@@Koreyx This makes sense, gotta be ways to make it work, we want commissions! haha
It boils down to giving people 'personals' and 'uniquely named' items.
Do you know how the suggestions forum actually worked? just curious.
Yeah i have suggested things on it
We probably won't get another kotaro
what i never understood is why not make a commisoned system where they send what they want but htey have to pay to get it, so like 100 dollar a set or such but to be put on a list as they have a team working on the list and it artwork
I miss time Suggestion Shop was a thing.
you da goat🐐
Typical AE. Instead of coming up with a solution they just remove it outright.
I still miss Vesper (aka VelvetValie)
They should release the dark kitsune commander for everyone it’s not fair
I just need more kotaro art in game
They could simply add commission sets that are most popular or most liked by the community, or polls on discord. Items should NOT have the player's name in the item title but can in the description, and the commissioner should NOT get a special variant of the item to avoid potential upset for rarity.
Now Alina wants to pretend that she doesn't have any favorites??? but she keeps approving sets from the woke community and horrible remakes, she's a liar.
From the “woke community” lol bro go outside and enjoy a deep breath of fresh air I think you came down with a bad case of twitter brain
Well said luis
Do you get invited to thanksgiving still?
the whole community 😭 take a day off pal
Just quit the game guys that's easy way.
Well, the problem is that the line is not set between who owns the art-the person who paid for the commission or the artist who drew it. If the person who owns the rights to the art makes the suggestion to include due art in the game, then I don't see the problem.
The real reason why she doesn't want commissions is because she's too lazy to deal with them.
maybe xyo will make a return for the badge
Nah, xyo already success on his own game company Lunime
Massive Gacha, it’s crazy how that all happened
@@aryayuscandra9994 didn't know this, good for him
Players probably commissioned art from only a few artists who are generally better at art, and that art got put into the game, which made other artists butt hurt and jealous. Or if someone’s commissioned art got into the game but another players didn’t that would lead to players getting butt hurt. So they removed it altogether. Just a guess but sounds right.
When did this "commission era" happen? I think I took a break in 2018-2019 and I've returned at around late august-early september in 2023, only to find out that there had been a lot of stuff added in the game due to "commissions", most of which are rare nowadays. What the heck did I missed out and why everyone's feeling let down about no "commissioned art" coming out in the future? I missed out on the items, its history, the drama that unfolded, and its highs & lows.
Edit: Like what the eff did happen during that time?
There wasn't anything particular that has happened in regards to commissioned sets, they simply stopped doing them, they used to have a Featured Artist shop back then, but at some point, AE stopped featuring any artist due to the impression that the company is playing favorites.
Yeah I recall seeing the black variant of the Kitsune Commander, I recall being upset about it being only exclusive to Lae as well as someone else just because they were the ones who made the original set in the first place. It was understandable, but at the same time, it was kind of unfair since I doubt every artist was given this privilege, and that's what perpetuates the affirmation that AE is playing favorites with certain artists.
AE could have simply avoided this had they not given anymore artists personalized armors that only they can have or give them special treatment. I do however believe that they should be given the set they made for the game for free as well as being given a cut from the sales AE made from those who purchased the armor set or items. After all, it is **their** work AE is monetizing.
I did actually get my idea put in the game!
Saw ur post on twitter and had to jump... My gosh outsourcing has been a thing for a longtime..
Luckily if im still active in twitter i could rant each of ae staffs
Ngl a lot of commissioned arts and sets are way better
15:41 abortion armor
RIP AQR ARTIST
I think they should add Commission sets BUT Ofcourse there should be rules for it. I think AE handled that pretty badly. Just add rules in commissioned sets. Even if the artist complaints, their sets won't be ingame then but other artists that follow the rules would have their sets ingame.
long story short. they are giving in to the new generation of crybabies
The game content has become to repetitive. The armors are usually nothing I'd wear as using a male character nor do I like heavy armors which is like 60-70% of what goes into a chest lately. And the fact that every chest now has atleast ONE bankpet to increase the "valeu" of the chest is also -200 iq AE. I do not need one or two or even three new bank pet for AE to think the "value" of the chest increases.
The sets you showed in this video looked FIREE. and I'd buy every single one of those sets,. but i do not buy any of the recent chests.
Hurray
Shiminuki mentioned?!!!!! RAHHHHHH
Oh Aqw artists you keep me taradiddled 🙉
sadly 12:40 shiminuki is retired
goat of class guides
so like if i just uploaded 12 1 minute videos of me farming i could get the badge? lmaoo
how can they stop adding commissioned items in game? do they really think ppl want to buy lae or despera stuff? these are bottom of the barrel artists they are sabotaging themselves considering this game's entire monetization revolves around cosmetics and the very occasional calendar class.
i goto agree on this lae and despera has lacked all of their stuff for the past 1 too 2 years now
@@adrianstjrnfldtthe sad thing is lae is a decent artist with an eye for detail but just often makes really boring items no-one wants.
Its kinda bad how every new collection chest i used to think “oh that looks cool i want thaat but i just dont want to spend ” where as now i have tons of acs (mostly though gifting) but don’t like anything.
I got one armour the entire year. And its only alright.
Please equip you cape in Aqw much thanks
I will have it on stream tomorrow :)
i want tojoin a guild...i just played recently..please someone get me in their guild huhu
Drama in aqw? Lmao, who gives a crap about this, you go afk in the inn with some rare armour, thats like 95% of the playerbase
All the nulgath art looks trash so far
Thankfully for my 3 personals
"Favoritism"
AQW is not ROBLOX, not Second LIfe and specially not VRchat. You DON'T commission INDEPENDENT/FREELANCE Artisit to create a set for AQW.
You contact AQW ARTISTS or STAFF to SUGGEST a set for the PUBLIC, granted it might not get noticed or fit the set you had in mind.
because it all comes down to COPYRIGHT (which is evidently ignored since all the weeb related sets) AQW does NOT have the RIGHTS to the COMMISSIONED set because it was not made by AQW. The best thing to do with the player made/commissioned sets are to submit them in competitions where players vote, winner gets a prize wether it be AC, Cash or membership (granted it is also a good way for aqw to scout artist).
Ground rules being creator of the winning set must give the rights to aqw, and participants must have the rights to their submitted sets so as to not get a third party artist involved(those that get artist to create a set for them to participate with) .
"because it all comes down to COPYRIGHT (which is evidently ignored since all the weeb related sets)"
Not necessarily, all those sets are not exactly taken from other IPs, they are parodies of those IPs, a simply nod to them and thus falls under fair-use under the DMCA. Otherwise AE would have faced lawsuits a long time ago.
Firscond
imagine paying money to get pixel items xd
brokie