Rule#1 - NEVER trust influencers .....EVER.....especially internet influencers. Do your OWN research. THINK for yourself. If someone is pushing something on you, be assured they have an investment in it.
@@i3lazinkush760 I wouldn't buy much of what he buys personally, but for him to make Market Movers and have all of those insightful data driven 3 person sit down videos is very useful and insightful.
Being of age and how to manage the sequence of returns in those early periods is what seems quite scary in the current market. The market is never a loser in the twenty year cycle, but the 2000s decade scenario scares me and could really disrupt my retirement. When you're no longer accumulating but withdrawing, it's hard to be anything but cautious.
@Richard Perkins Apparently that's true, I agree. It is mostly disastrous for newbies or anyone who doesn't adhere to a well thought-out strategy and over all, a professional broker.
Wow, I'm just shocked someone mentioned and recommended expert Mrs Diana Lynne Bobka. I thought people don't really know her. I invested £ 2,000 with Mrs Diana Lynne Bobka after i met her at a conference in London, she made me profit of £ 11,790 in just 7- 14 days of trading with her and i invested more.
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Awesome content, I love how you don't pull punches. I will say that Geoff Wilson has decent clean content and I've learned quite a bit in terms of general knowledge about sports cards and options with all the different ways you can buy cards. Aside from that I love your content as well. Keep up the good work
Talk trash about Geoff Wilson all you want but his content/advice has made me a better/smarter investor AND negotiator in sports cards and it has made me money.
1) Unless you had a lot of experience as a buyer/seller in the hobby prior to following Geoff, that statement doesn’t mean much. Not hard to improve if you’re someone with no experience. 2) Geoff isn’t actually any better at predicting price trends than you or I. The Covid boom that blew the hobby sky high for 18 or so months was a black swan event that Geoff happened to be in the right place for at the right time-his meal ticket was the massive influx of speculators with zero/very little prior hobby involvement and at most an average knowledge of pro sports. I have yet to meet a serious collector who doesn’t roll their eyes whenever his name is mentioned. 3) That group of people that have little knowledge of the “asset class” are all looking for someone to just give them instructions on how to allocate investment capitol-no different than all the people in stocks or crypto who follow TH-cam financial influencers. The number of people who just do whatever Geoff tells them to do has gotten large enough that for almost any card (excluding only the absolute highest end cards) he can set the market instantly with a simple video. 4) His ability to set the market on cards so easily has 2 key benefits for him. The most egregious is that he can spend months buying up a certain card, then pump it in a video and cash out to his followers, netting a guaranteed windfall. The current best example of him doing exactly that: 1984 Star Michael Jordan cards. The other benefit he sees is that there are so many people following his advice that some inevitably do make money, which they thank him for by loudly and vehemently endorsing him in places like TH-cam comment sections. TLDR: Geoff is nothing special, if the SEC treated cards the same way they do securities he would be in Federal Prison, it’s all made possible by relative novices in the hobby who use his advice hoping it can be a shortcut that lets them avoid spending the time to learn the market themselves. Once his following dips below some magic number and can no longer manipulate the market, he’ll crash and burn.
@@peterp9089 I think Geoff is solid. I also think a lot of his videos are made for kids his own kids age. You can notice he talks faster and more business casual in his other videos. He dials it in. He's definitely a smart guy. I already knew how to make money on cards and I find Geoff is a good resource for updates and other types of thinking and approaching the market.
I dont understand why anybody would hate on jeff he doesnt sell anybody anything that there not willing to buy he doesnt have all the right advice but his top 5 is something i watch every week i dont do the whole market movers app thing cuz i can search ebay myself but it was still a good idea .Jeff promotes the hobby and encourages kids to get in it forget his business decisions or card advice the dude is good for the hobby he promotes it , brings updates as far as whats going on within the hobby, etc. ONE THING I CAN SAY IS I DONT EVER SEE JEFF TALKING SHIT ABOUT ANYBODY and thats more than i can say for people that only do videos hating on other peoples business and accomplishments!!!
He's kind of in the middle. He needs to stand up and point around. Its not that he does it, its that he does it with no flare. I think he's aware of it but he needs to let us know that he's aware of it. Then its just fun. "I'm the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be"
It is so easy to talk negative about people. And to speculate 9 months from now on people you hardly know is stupid. Tough to sit through this stuff. I am sure if you look hard enough there is dirt on most everyone. Last I checked no one is perfect. Some time ago someone on in Sports Card Radio had a drug problem , and I thought took money from the business accounts. Is that accurate? Or a false story. Interested in a comment?
Bragging that you went a topps conference and then slide in that you had to pay $500 to be there. And then you go on to say Jameel hasn’t been anywhere, meelypops was just at Dallas last month. Front and center with a banner you could see a mile away. If you guys have run out of content just admit it. All you do is regurgitate what we all already know, your break zero stories and just make yourselves look childish Maybe your mommies and daddies didn’t love you enough as children.
First statement made no sense to me either. “Yo we showed up at this event and none of these guys showed up to confront us” like wtf, MFers aren’t gangsters, they don’t want that smoke. These guys need a new punchline. Mommy and daddy this and mommy that, get a new catch phrase. This is like a bad wwe heel gimmick.
I’m only a Pokémon person but I have a weird obsession with watching sports card videos especially videos of card shows. I’ve seen a lot of these guys doing videos and had no idea about the backstory on any of these dudes. Wild stuff lol.
Random thoughts. - I’m not a content creator - I do not have a card shop - This was a great video - CardCollector 2 does have a legitimate business and is very transparent about his deals. I’ve been to his shop, his trade nights and met him multiple times at shows. His Achilles heel will be his affiliation and loyalty to Gary V and being handcuffed by Fanatics in order to continue having allocations in 2024 and beyond. Many LCS owners are in that same boat with regard to Fanatics. - Geoff Wilson is a good guy who has some humility about him and can accept and act on constructive criticism. I think his content is interesting, but he will also lose face if he makes the decision to get in bed all the way with Gary V and Fanatics. - Those mentioned who live with mommy and daddy - that’s all that needs said. Not a criticism of them personally, but it’s easy to play fast and loose when you’re getting a free ride in life. - Meelypops. Seems to have gone into the witness protection program recently. - All breakers will fail. It’s overhyped casino gambling, period. Good stuff, gents. Cheers!
Meelypops is at the NCSS in A.C. this week. I visited his booth and said a brief hello. You wrote a fair response here. BTW, nice wording on the breakers. Fits perfectly with the NSCC being in A.C. this year. People were probably better off gambling at the actual slots than on this breaking garbage.
Card collector 2 swindled an 11 year old out of a 20k Zion RPA. Geoff Wilson swindled all his adults and now put his focus on getting his kids generation Of suckers. The entire hobby is now infected and going down in a blaze of glory. Only cardboard memories will remain…
@@josequintana3669 I saw Jameel at the National as well. Good to see him coming back. I think he got jammed in the Pokémon case deal and had no part in it other than to lose a ton of money.
literally comedy f'ing gold...roasting these dorks that hangout in low end hotel lobbies trading 50 dollar cards! appreciate this content. the traveling around to all these shows, must be massive losses end of year
I would think if you were a pioneer in this space you would want to foster a more positive attitude about new blood in the hobby versus just throwing shade. I get it, we all want the bad actors gone, but this just seems like you are appealing to a portion of our society that wants want to be angry and resentful. You guys have a ton of knowledge, I would use to promote better energy. My two cents.
@@dennispatrickzender there is TONS of positive sports card content. Almost ALL sports card content is positive. Especially compared to other niches. The hobby will be fine.
I don’t think you have to be Pollyanna about the hobby. There are lots of illegal, unethical and opaque practices which should be corrected. But these guys are just bitter. You’re absolutely right that this content could only appeal to people who are angry and filled with resentment. You can be pragmatic and honest without seething and shouting.
When serious money starts flowing into any market you best believe that the scammers, grifters and "clout chasers" won't be far behind. Seems to me like a lot of these influencers simply got caught up in the hype and the irrational exuberance of the card market during the lockdowns. These folks were making tons of money out of the blue on top of whatever stimulus money they were raking in at the time. On top of that these younger influencers who live at home can afford to take huge risks since they don't have any real living expenses. One of my good friends drives a very expensive car but he lives at home with his parents. Kind of easy to afford that expensive car note and insurance when you aren't paying rent.
Rule#2 - When people are offering you crazy money for your collectible (especially during COVID), TAKE IT and RUN. Odds are you'll NEVER see those numbers again..... I've done it ....and haven't looked back. Some of the best moves I've EVER made.
Absolutely love it! Started my day waiting to leave our Hub in Columbus Ohio drinking my mt dew watching your new video. Now after a 12 hr workday and sitting in a hotel in Detroit I get a new video to watch! I have been to Ryan's shop 1 time. He does have a nice setup and currently has 10 employees. His biggest setback is lack of vintage cards and very little baseball. His excuse is the players aren't good right away to make money off of. We live in a state with 5 teams and one semi pro team. There are 2 other card shops that have been opened a combined 82 years in Columbus that sell mainly baseball and have a ton of vintage. He really needs to work on getting a healthy mix. Anyway, the guys over here at Norfolk and Southern railroad love your content and you guys crack us up with the digs on certain people. Keep on
@@jamesonlawrence9203 and the people watching MOJO, Sasha ect I envision living with mom and dads, no girlfriend, waiting in line at GameSpot for the newest Funko
@@johnnyv1938 I like mojo and watch his videos lol. What do people have against that guy so much? Because he lives with his dad and works for their donut shop?
PLEASE do a video on Laytons 1.2 million $ break with drunks having cards off camera, yelling vulgarity, and trotting half naked women around in the background. It will be gold 🤣🤣
Mike's in Aurora, CO. is one of my local LCS's. The people saying it has a "flea market" atmosphere must be brand new to the hobby. He's not some come & go ultra modern cards only kind of shop but rather an LCS that really targets set collectors. All those boxes are singles for sets of dollar bins. He'll be around a looooong time.
I was about to comment the same thing. Actually out of all the LCS's i've been to he has the best set up in terms of singles movement/fair pricing and products. Also a super nice guy whenever I talk to him...
The way these guys harp on the “mommy and daddy” situation make them sound jealous. Why so much hate? I moved out of my parents house at 17. If you live with parents, what’s the problem?
Somehow in this society it makes you less, I guess 🤷 🤔, I know people who live with their parents and have multiple rental homes, jealousy those come to mind and attention seeking, the Kardashians of the hobby lol
Well they said it for four guys like they were focusing on it, so don’t see why they’d be shocked we would. shit some of these kids parents house look better than all of Stockton. I feel like the one with goggles just hates pools. Seems like the type to leave his shirt on at the pool, guess I would too with that figure lol
@@Brooklynquietmoney what don’t you get? He lied to his whole following for almost 2 years about his psa sub. You usually tend to do business with liars?
Soo ridiculous it’s really a shame you guys put out some really good content but instead you all getting frustrated with others getting popularity so you just want to bash why not keep doing positive videos this really is sad good luck guys
If anyone of them own a house, they will be okay. But if they rent, they will be screw. Landlord across the country are jacking up rent like crazy. Landlord are angry that they can't collect rent in 2020 and 2021. Now they are sticking it to the tenant.
Mabey I’m wrong but when I see 2 guys with a video basically hoping for the demise of ppl doing well, it makes me feel mabey those guys aren’t doing well or at least not nearly as well as the ppl they’re talking about. All while piggy backing off of their names.🤷🏼♂️
I just don’t know how much profit these influencers make with all the travel expenses these guys spend from airfare and hotels. This is a hobby. It’s a very small percentage of people that actually make a pure profit in selling sports cards.
@Leapheap Maybe 13k isn’t enough for you too live on but for some it’s extra income (while working at McDonald’s)and maybe enough, also you are your own boss. TH-cam is advertising for most these influences selling cards and it opens up more people attending these card shows to start collecting and reselling themselves. When your able to turn a hobby into a business whether it’s successful or not the main thing is they love what they are doing and through TH-cam allows them different streams of income. It’s not up too us to judge what’s enough money too live on or whether they are going broke because they the card vendors are the ones giving us the opportunity too buy there cards. The unfortunate part being a TH-camr and doing anything you love doing, people (like these two who made this video) will always judge you and make up a negative narrative because of envy and jealousy. Using sly comments as these two did like (living with parents and using there parents money) doesn’t determine whether there rich or poor, it just means they choose too live with there parents.
Honestly guys what’s wrong with someone cleaning pools it’s a man working for a paycheck who are you guys that you can berate people for what they choose to do or where they choose to live why you all feel you need to attack and put down people like I said it’s a shame because you guys make some really good videos with lots of good information I just don’t understand the arrogance and ignorance you guys can be so much better than this cmon
That pool boy thinks his know everything lol I been Doing it longer then him 😂😂😂he doesn’t know shitt lol I don’t know why everyone is kissing his ass lol he ain’t shitt , all he is a kid trying to get attention that’s all , pool boy lol 😂
All these guys pushed the cart before the horse and doubled down on a sure market decline that any idiot could have seen coming. They all lived lifestyles and thought their profit margins would go 5-10x until the 2nd coming of JC.
Most hadn't been in the hobby long so they assumed it would keep going up. Yes anyone that's been in the hobby for years knew a big decline was coming. The high price valuations made little sense.
I’ve been doing this 37 years. The people who have been most successful are the ones with regular jobs, stay under the radar, don’t advertise themselves on social media but make the right connections in their area and surrounding communities. Truly wealthy people are the ones who have no need to show it off and invest in people. Be honest, be respectful, and trust your own council. I live in a mid size city in the Midwest and have lived on nothing but sports cards at different times for years with a family and a mortgage no matter how up or down the market was. If you treat people right there is always people who want to deal with you.
savage!!! love the content!! Just subscribed!! I witnessed the mania first hand with the investor guy at the last Toronto expo. Wish people would actually listen to what he says....which is nothing worth listening too....Keep up bringing honest content for everyone!
its actually funny how you roast these guys always have to remember not everything is as good as it seems. Everything Ive made money on I bought from a collector perspective with no intention to ever sell. When I did sell it was hard to part with
i sell cards alot but I always buy for the long term with intention to collect, i learned I can flip and still buy cards i can hold for a long time, even prospects i try to buy prospects i can hold for years if I choose and try n stay away from flash in the pan hype
As somebody that has interacted with some of they guys the go after I think the truth is somewhere in between how the TH-cam influencers portray themselves and how these guys portray them. Some of these guys just aren’t as awful as they are made out to be
PWCC makes Probenstien123 look like Mother Theresa . Good video and you guys are like Rage Against the Machine for me. I don’t agree with everything you say but your mostly right👍
Its time for jewelry makers to get into the sports card business. If a card that costs pennies to manufacture can sell for 5, 6, 7 figures, imagine the upside of a card with gold, silver, emarld, ruby......... Its Just Effing Cardboard
The problem with sportcardinvestor is that he doesn't know sh about sportcards. You can't get tricked by the artifical prizm bubble created by gary and then expect me to take you seriouse. You can't have gains in a time where the hobby was flooded with people that didn't know anything about sports. Have gains woth telling them all what to buy wich in itself gonna raise the "worth" of the specific player or card. He is one of the lamest people ever. He just takes photos from other peoples cards on instagram and uses them for his posts so people look at his posts with cards in the picture he doesn't even own. He is full of bs
Are u serious 60-70 % of the ppl watching weren't collecting in 2012? Wow. I'm not into the "community " but I thought most ppl were late 30s or 40s and been into since at least 90s
Ryan (Card Collector 2) is a class act! He does kids nights and great for the hobby. Just watch some of his videos on kids night and you will see the type of person he is.
Most these card influencers are 🤡. They pump guys and cards they already invested in. That drives the prices and demand up. Then they dump them all and take their profit and do it all over again . Sports card investor is one of the worst. F that guy
sports card are in a huge bubble. the entire industry is going to depression. and i have a lot of very old cards---worth a lot----that ill be handing down to my kid.
I mean they don't educate themselves on the topics. So, it's basically a roast session without knowing much about the people they're talking about. Definitely comedy involved here, but just slapstick basic stuff.
Geoff Wilson just loved that 1st product that Fanatics put out. Remember those kindergarten kid cards that were 2k a box or something? So what's that tell ya?
Jeff said to buy soccer it’s the future of collecting 😂 oh and his little partner that gives card buying advice said to buy Sam darnold cards 😂Jeff is the very essence of grifting a sector for profit
If you don’t think soccer is going to get a big bump with the World Cup starting in starting in November then you haven’t been around cards very long. Try looking back and see what happens when the mens World Cup happens.
@@toddpeterson8909 I can tell by the way your talking you’ve just started in this business in 2020. If you’ve been doing this since 2012 than we could talk. The American market is three sports 🏀 🏈 and ⚾️. ⚽️ is a minority market share sport in America. America has the most card collectors and purchasers in the world. America does not watch soccer you new guys are buying soccer in hopes that people here will care about soccer that’s not going to happen. The guys who bought soccer these last two years are the dumb money. The dumb money spends on something that’s hyped than panics and sells. Dumb money floats around from genre to genre till the money is no more. The dumb money is currently saturating vintage as we speak but that will die down also. Yes soccer will get a dumb pump from World Cup but that’s because dumb money will flow in. As soon as world cup is done than soccer cards will tank even lower. Soccer and f1 are a dumb money fad. You couldn’t give away f1 cards three years ago. And f1 and soccer is not here to stay because you guys are not real collectors so you all will be leaving in a year or two anyway when their isn’t any more money to be made. Than it will become a collectors market again.
@@greekperspective2076 Oh my goodness 2012? Say it ain’t so…. Funny that I was buying and selling cards for nearly 30 years before you even thought about getting in the game. You must be one of those people that buy during the season when the player gets hot, I’m already 3 steps ahead of you because I bought in the dip, ya know like when people are trying to get money for Christmas. But yeah it’s super cool that you bought in the middle of the season and than sold because you were short money on Christmas because you overs spent because you bought cards as values crested. See with soccer they have something called the World Cup and for the last 4 years teams have been building their squads for this tournament and anyone with the skill could start watching teams play 4 years ago. The put new players on the nearly every match in the first 3 years where you get to see the potential of 16-19 year old and certainly when a kid at 16-19 hasn’t made a name for himself or even stars for that matter you can pick up high end cards for extremely cheap. Just go into eBay and look at the trajectory of National Team cards, if I’m making 35-45% IOI, and that’s the return on a decent player that has a decent tournament.
@@toddpeterson8909 sure your full of crap if your story was true than you wouldn’t be trying to fondle soccer cards of men all day in your basement get lost
@@toddpeterson8909 I know your whole story is made up. I know by what I’m reading from your response. If you been in this game so long you wouldn’t be fondling soccer cards all day.
Researcher : The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes. Pig Vomit : How can that be?
All my modern stuff I bought in 2020 has now tanked. All my high end Tatis & Lebron cards have went to complete garbage prices compared to when I was buying in 2020. Not sure where to go in the hobby now, guess I'll dabble back into vintage again. Grrrrrrr!
Geoff jumped on late in the card market, mojo lmfao, the biggest hobby 🤡 on TH-cam. Donut money must be paying for all his trips to shows. Sports Card Radio, thank you for the content!
What’s funny is what they said about these people goes the same for these two 🤣. Can’t believe two grown ass man complaining and talking crap about people. Sure I don’t like these people but damn just mind your own business instead of trying start a fight with them.
Rule#1 - NEVER trust influencers .....EVER.....especially internet influencers. Do your OWN research. THINK for yourself. If someone is pushing something on you, be assured they have an investment in it.
Geoff wilson is like a weatherman that tells you what the weather was yesterday . Amazed how people follow him
Na, he's smarter than he appears. A lot of his videos appear to be made for kids around his kids age.
He can be annoying but with his money he can be
Great analogy, I picked up one card based on his advice and then after the fact, I felt the same as your comment lmao
@@i3lazinkush760 I wouldn't buy much of what he buys personally, but for him to make Market Movers and have all of those insightful data driven 3 person sit down videos is very useful and insightful.
@@DaleGribble1 I notice he will hype you what he owns. If he can manipulate the market in anyway in his favor he absolutely will!
Jeff Wilson is dead money he has no clue wtf he is doing in my humble opinion
Geoff
He played everyone. There's no way he actually took the advice he has been giving.
Yea he does a top 5 his top 2 is what he has alot of
Being of age and how to manage the sequence of returns in those early periods is what seems quite scary in the current market. The market is never a loser in the twenty year cycle, but the 2000s decade scenario scares me and could really disrupt my retirement. When you're no longer accumulating but withdrawing, it's hard to be anything but cautious.
Some investors look to their investments as a source of income while others use it as a means to grow or preserve their wealth.
@Richard Perkins Apparently that's true, I agree. It is mostly disastrous for newbies or anyone who doesn't adhere to a well thought-out strategy and over all, a professional broker.
@Hoshi Fuyo Being trying to get started, but i end up loosing out. Do you have a professional broker???
Wow, I'm just shocked someone mentioned and recommended expert Mrs Diana Lynne Bobka.
I thought people don't really know her.
I invested £ 2,000 with Mrs Diana Lynne Bobka after i met her at a conference in London, she made me profit of £ 11,790 in just 7- 14 days of trading with her and i invested more.
Hello!!,
I'm pleased to meet investors of Diana Lynne Bobka. I recently ventured into investing with her undertaking trades on my behalf. She has been of great help and her tutelage has brought me to a higher understanding of profit generation.
Awesome content, I love how you don't pull punches. I will say that Geoff Wilson has decent clean content and I've learned quite a bit in terms of general knowledge about sports cards and options with all the different ways you can buy cards. Aside from that I love your content as well. Keep up the good work
I'm 100% on the fact that sport cards shop should be bright, upscale, modern and organize.
Man they nailed Sasha T. He’s cleaning pools again and still living at home like Jay from Mojo.
Talk trash about Geoff Wilson all you want but his content/advice has made me a better/smarter investor AND negotiator in sports cards and it has made me money.
1) Unless you had a lot of experience as a buyer/seller in the hobby prior to following Geoff, that statement doesn’t mean much. Not hard to improve if you’re someone with no experience.
2) Geoff isn’t actually any better at predicting price trends than you or I. The Covid boom that blew the hobby sky high for 18 or so months was a black swan event that Geoff happened to be in the right place for at the right time-his meal ticket was the massive influx of speculators with zero/very little prior hobby involvement and at most an average knowledge of pro sports. I have yet to meet a serious collector who doesn’t roll their eyes whenever his name is mentioned.
3) That group of people that have little knowledge of the “asset class” are all looking for someone to just give them instructions on how to allocate investment capitol-no different than all the people in stocks or crypto who follow TH-cam financial influencers. The number of people who just do whatever Geoff tells them to do has gotten large enough that for almost any card (excluding only the absolute highest end cards) he can set the market instantly with a simple video.
4) His ability to set the market on cards so easily has 2 key benefits for him. The most egregious is that he can spend months buying up a certain card, then pump it in a video and cash out to his followers, netting a guaranteed windfall. The current best example of him doing exactly that: 1984 Star Michael Jordan cards. The other benefit he sees is that there are so many people following his advice that some inevitably do make money, which they thank him for by loudly and vehemently endorsing him in places like TH-cam comment sections.
TLDR: Geoff is nothing special, if the SEC treated cards the same way they do securities he would be in Federal Prison, it’s all made possible by relative novices in the hobby who use his advice hoping it can be a shortcut that lets them avoid spending the time to learn the market themselves. Once his following dips below some magic number and can no longer manipulate the market, he’ll crash and burn.
@@peterp9089 I think Geoff is solid. I also think a lot of his videos are made for kids his own kids age.
You can notice he talks faster and more business casual in his other videos. He dials it in. He's definitely a smart guy.
I already knew how to make money on cards and I find Geoff is a good resource for updates and other types of thinking and approaching the market.
@@peterp9089 Geoff is worth 8 figures
That's like $10,000,000+
I dont understand why anybody would hate on jeff he doesnt sell anybody anything that there not willing to buy he doesnt have all the right advice but his top 5 is something i watch every week i dont do the whole market movers app thing cuz i can search ebay myself but it was still a good idea .Jeff promotes the hobby and encourages kids to get in it forget his business decisions or card advice the dude is good for the hobby he promotes it , brings updates as far as whats going on within the hobby, etc. ONE THING I CAN SAY IS I DONT EVER SEE JEFF TALKING SHIT ABOUT ANYBODY and thats more than i can say for people that only do videos hating on other peoples business and accomplishments!!!
Geoff is literally the worst sports forecaster I’ve ever seen, but a decent amount of his content and negotiations have been very insightful.
That Jeff dude wouldn't be nearly as bad if he didn't spend the first 5 minutes of every vid tooting his own horn.
He's kind of in the middle.
He needs to stand up and point around. Its not that he does it, its that he does it with no flare.
I think he's aware of it but he needs to let us know that he's aware of it. Then its just fun.
"I'm the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be"
It is so easy to talk negative about people. And to speculate 9 months from now on people you hardly know is stupid. Tough to sit through this stuff. I am sure if you look hard enough there is dirt on most everyone. Last I checked no one is perfect. Some time ago someone on in Sports Card Radio had a drug problem , and I thought took money from the business accounts. Is that accurate? Or a false story. Interested in a comment?
I hate them! I hate them all! Especially cartoon character Cardcollector2 and dandruff beard
Why do you call CC2 a cartoon character. I'm sure I've seen him blink lol.
Imagine being Geoff son..for Christmas I want a national treasures, immpeccable,immaculate and a tom brady psa 10 contenders autograph rookie.
Bragging that you went a topps conference and then slide in that you had to pay $500 to be there.
And then you go on to say Jameel hasn’t been anywhere, meelypops was just at Dallas last month. Front and center with a banner you could see a mile away.
If you guys have run out of content just admit it. All you do is regurgitate what we all already know, your break zero stories and just make yourselves look childish
Maybe your mommies and daddies didn’t love you enough as children.
Then you say you don’t know anything about CC2, but label
Him naive and say he’s gonna go by the way side. Just ignorant rambling.
Bro both those negative Nancy's need a hug. Or an ass whoopin lol..
First statement made no sense to me either. “Yo we showed up at this event and none of these guys showed up to confront us” like wtf, MFers aren’t gangsters, they don’t want that smoke. These guys need a new punchline. Mommy and daddy this and mommy that, get a new catch phrase. This is like a bad wwe heel gimmick.
I’m only a Pokémon person but I have a weird obsession with watching sports card videos especially videos of card shows. I’ve seen a lot of these guys doing videos and had no idea about the backstory on any of these dudes. Wild stuff lol.
Random thoughts.
- I’m not a content creator
- I do not have a card shop
- This was a great video
- CardCollector 2 does have a legitimate business and is very transparent about his deals. I’ve been to his shop, his trade nights and met him multiple times at shows. His Achilles heel will be his affiliation and loyalty to Gary V and being handcuffed by Fanatics in order to continue having allocations in 2024 and beyond. Many LCS owners are in that same boat with regard to Fanatics.
- Geoff Wilson is a good guy who has some humility about him and can accept and act on constructive criticism. I think his content is interesting, but he will also lose face if he makes the decision to get in bed all the way with Gary V and Fanatics.
- Those mentioned who live with mommy and daddy - that’s all that needs said. Not a criticism of them personally, but it’s easy to play fast and loose when you’re getting a free ride in life.
- Meelypops. Seems to have gone into the witness protection program recently.
- All breakers will fail. It’s overhyped casino gambling, period.
Good stuff, gents. Cheers!
Meelypops is at the NCSS in A.C. this week. I visited his booth and said a brief hello.
You wrote a fair response here. BTW, nice wording on the breakers. Fits perfectly with the NSCC being in A.C. this year. People were probably better off gambling at the actual slots than on this breaking garbage.
Card collector 2 swindled an 11 year old out of a 20k Zion RPA. Geoff Wilson swindled all his adults and now put his focus on getting his kids generation Of suckers. The entire hobby is now infected and going down in a blaze of glory. Only cardboard memories will remain…
@@josequintana3669 I saw Jameel at the National as well. Good to see him coming back. I think he got jammed in the Pokémon case deal and had no part in it other than to lose a ton of money.
@@bobbywest8460 can’t argue any of that, though I didn’t see the CC2 swindle (I watch very little creator content anymore)
@@robertlanham7830 you must not have watched the whole saga produced by Rattle Pokemon. Jameel is a total shit bird
Geoff is huge on "comps" the problem with comps is they can be manipulated by people like him that overpay for a card.
Love the comment at 11:00 mark. There are lots of collectors who don’t care about slabs and care about the cards. New to the show. Love it.
literally comedy f'ing gold...roasting these dorks that hangout in low end hotel lobbies trading 50 dollar cards! appreciate this content. the traveling around to all these shows, must be massive losses end of year
They form LLCs, they write it all off
If Chapelle every does another haters ball skit, you guys will definitely be on it
Whenever the Bash Brothers show up you know its must see tv
I would think if you were a pioneer in this space you would want to foster a more positive attitude about new blood in the hobby versus just throwing shade. I get it, we all want the bad actors gone, but this just seems like you are appealing to a portion of our society that wants want to be angry and resentful. You guys have a ton of knowledge, I would use to promote better energy. My two cents.
New blood that is on federal probation for life (mojo) and another who participated in a Ponzi scheme (CC2). But let me pat them on the back? Strange.
@@SportsCardShow again, not everyone is clean here, I was making a broader point.
@@dennispatrickzender there is TONS of positive sports card content. Almost ALL sports card content is positive. Especially compared to other niches. The hobby will be fine.
@@SportsCardShow what Ponzi scheme was cc2 part of?
I don’t think you have to be Pollyanna about the hobby. There are lots of illegal, unethical and opaque practices which should be corrected. But these guys are just bitter. You’re absolutely right that this content could only appeal to people who are angry and filled with resentment. You can be pragmatic and honest without seething and shouting.
When you are concerned about someone else making $, it likely means you aren’t making enough yourself.
They sound jealous to me. They will probably be the ones broke by the end of the year
These dude have plenty of money they are just a good channel who call people out.
You guys rock!
It's great to hear people who know the topic(s) and aren't saying dirtbags are awesome.
Love it guys! Love the channel! We’re big fans over here in Pittsburgh.
Thank you!
When serious money starts flowing into any market you best believe that the scammers, grifters and "clout chasers" won't be far behind. Seems to me like a lot of these influencers simply got caught up in the hype and the irrational exuberance of the card market during the lockdowns. These folks were making tons of money out of the blue on top of whatever stimulus money they were raking in at the time. On top of that these younger influencers who live at home can afford to take huge risks since they don't have any real living expenses. One of my good friends drives a very expensive car but he lives at home with his parents. Kind of easy to afford that expensive car note and insurance when you aren't paying rent.
Influencers are definitely losing any momentum they had previously
Rule#2 - When people are offering you crazy money for your collectible (especially during COVID), TAKE IT and RUN. Odds are you'll NEVER see those numbers again..... I've done it ....and haven't looked back. Some of the best moves I've EVER made.
Never been to Aurora but Let’s be real someone from Stockton shouldn’t be shitting on anyone else’s city 😂
That's funny as hell I thought you two were the same person all this time
me too, I cant tell who is who in the video
Me three.
Me too I thought they were the same person 😅..beginning of this video I thought it was one guy trying to be funny with a split screen.
Samesies
That CardKhahuna idiot should be prosecuted for Fraud and forced to pay back the sum in full. You guys should make a video on him.
He's hiding in India 🇮🇳 spending the 2 million dollars 💸. He got the last laugh 😃
Absolutely love it! Started my day waiting to leave our Hub in Columbus Ohio drinking my mt dew watching your new video. Now after a 12 hr workday and sitting in a hotel in Detroit I get a new video to watch! I have been to Ryan's shop 1 time. He does have a nice setup and currently has 10 employees. His biggest setback is lack of vintage cards and very little baseball. His excuse is the players aren't good right away to make money off of. We live in a state with 5 teams and one semi pro team. There are 2 other card shops that have been opened a combined 82 years in Columbus that sell mainly baseball and have a ton of vintage. He really needs to work on getting a healthy mix. Anyway, the guys over here at Norfolk and Southern railroad love your content and you guys crack us up with the digs on certain people. Keep on
someone drinking mountain dew and working 12 hour shifts is exactly who i envision watching these guys
@@jamesonlawrence9203 and the people watching MOJO, Sasha ect I envision living with mom and dads, no girlfriend, waiting in line at GameSpot for the newest Funko
Ryan’s not big into baseball. I don’t think that makes him a bad guy. Seems to be doing fine
@@zachpierce641 your right for now he's doing ok. Days of pumping and dumping will come to an end though.
@@johnnyv1938 I like mojo and watch his videos lol. What do people have against that guy so much? Because he lives with his dad and works for their donut shop?
PLEASE do a video on Laytons 1.2 million $ break with drunks having cards off camera, yelling vulgarity, and trotting half naked women around in the background. It will be gold 🤣🤣
That was a great video
the cards off camera was by far the worst part id expect a break of that caliber to have 20 cameras all over the cards that viewers can choose from
Half naked? When was this. Link video
Dam its Jonah Hill and Michael Rapaport
@Clint Clinty clearly lmao
keep going in on Jeff wilson lol I love this !!!
Mike's in Aurora, CO. is one of my local LCS's.
The people saying it has a "flea market" atmosphere must be brand new to the hobby.
He's not some come & go ultra modern cards only kind of shop but rather an LCS that really targets set collectors.
All those boxes are singles for sets of dollar bins. He'll be around a looooong time.
I was about to comment the same thing. Actually out of all the LCS's i've been to he has the best set up in terms of singles movement/fair pricing and products.
Also a super nice guy whenever I talk to him...
I've been to Mikes plenty of times and he's as solid as you can get. Also the best card store in Colorado by far
I say Johns sports cards is best in Colorado
The way these guys harp on the “mommy and daddy” situation make them sound jealous. Why so much hate? I moved out of my parents house at 17. If you live with parents, what’s the problem?
Somehow in this society it makes you less, I guess 🤷 🤔, I know people who live with their parents and have multiple rental homes, jealousy those come to mind and attention seeking, the Kardashians of the hobby lol
It’s sort of a joke. In the next breath I’ll speak nicely about them. It’s strange the things you guys focus on.
Cause there broke themselves pricks
Well they said it for four guys like they were focusing on it, so don’t see why they’d be shocked we would. shit some of these kids parents house look better than all of Stockton. I feel like the one with goggles just hates pools. Seems like the type to leave his shirt on at the pool, guess I would too with that figure lol
As longs as silly people keep buying into breaks, they will be still in business.
Ryan is very smart. He's well like in the hobby. He'll be around in this hobby. There's a level of collector Ryan will always attract.
I don’t get the Ryan bashing he’s a good kid and I think one of the good guys in the hobby
@@Brooklynquietmoney what don’t you get? He lied to his whole following for almost 2 years about his psa sub. You usually tend to do business with liars?
@@cardcrush3657 I don’t even know the kid but did he lie or use another bulk sub guy? And paid 100k out his own pocket to make things right.
@@cardcrush3657 he made it right, should he be cancelled forever?
It shouldn’t be forgotten? But he came clean. Once somebody messes up and comes clean. What else do you all want from them?
Soo ridiculous it’s really a shame you guys put out some really good content but instead you all getting frustrated with others getting popularity so you just want to bash why not keep doing positive videos this really is sad good luck guys
it hurts to bash others that are grinding and trying to be successful.
If anyone of them own a house, they will be okay. But if they rent, they will be screw. Landlord across the country are jacking up rent like crazy. Landlord are angry that they can't collect rent in 2020 and 2021. Now they are sticking it to the tenant.
Great video! Keep up the great work guys! 👍🏽
Lol what was great? They are literally wrong on every prediction, they are all still around
You guys are like wrestling heels lmao I love it
NWO….for life!
Like the content and the chirps….Are those chairs stolen from a Cracker Barrell😂😂😂 “Give your balls a tug!!l
Mabey I’m wrong but when I see 2 guys with a video basically hoping for the demise of ppl doing well, it makes me feel mabey those guys aren’t doing well or at least not nearly as well as the ppl they’re talking about. All while piggy backing off of their names.🤷🏼♂️
Yea they do seem like haters 😂😂😂
I just don’t know how much profit these influencers make with all the travel expenses these guys spend from airfare and hotels. This is a hobby. It’s a very small percentage of people that actually make a pure profit in selling sports cards.
Solid point.
They likely dont make much at all. They're spending almost everything they have to keep the youtube and social media content going.
I made $13,000 profit selling raw card singles on eBay last year 😂 def money to be made
Belie Dat that’s good but not enough to make a living. You’ll make more working at McDonalds.
@Leapheap Maybe 13k isn’t enough for you too live on but for some it’s extra income (while working at McDonald’s)and maybe enough, also you are your own boss. TH-cam is advertising for most these influences selling cards and it opens up more people attending these card shows to start collecting and reselling themselves. When your able to turn a hobby into a business whether it’s successful or not the main thing is they love what they are doing and through TH-cam allows them different streams of income. It’s not up too us to judge what’s enough money too live on or whether they are going broke because they the card vendors are the ones giving us the opportunity too buy there cards. The unfortunate part being a TH-camr and doing anything you love doing, people (like these two who made this video) will always judge you and make up a negative narrative because of envy and jealousy. Using sly comments as these two did like (living with parents and using there parents money) doesn’t determine whether there rich or poor, it just means they choose too live with there parents.
Honestly guys what’s wrong with someone cleaning pools it’s a man working for a paycheck who are you guys that you can berate people for what they choose to do or where they choose to live why you all feel you need to attack and put down people like I said it’s a shame because you guys make some really good videos with lots of good information I just don’t understand the arrogance and ignorance you guys can be so much better than this cmon
That pool boy thinks his know everything lol I been Doing it longer then him 😂😂😂he doesn’t know shitt lol I don’t know why everyone is kissing his ass lol he ain’t shitt , all he is a kid trying to get attention that’s all , pool boy lol 😂
Punctuation, pal.
@@beansballcardblog oh thanks dad 🤣🤣🤣
Cleaning pools lol
These guys are bullies no class
All these guys pushed the cart before the horse and doubled down on a sure market decline that any idiot could have seen coming. They all lived lifestyles and thought their profit margins would go 5-10x until the 2nd coming of JC.
Most hadn't been in the hobby long so they assumed it would keep going up. Yes anyone that's been in the hobby for years knew a big decline was coming. The high price valuations made little sense.
I’ve been doing this 37 years. The people who have been most successful are the ones with regular jobs, stay under the radar, don’t advertise themselves on social media but make the right connections in their area and surrounding communities. Truly wealthy people are the ones who have no need to show it off and invest in people. Be honest, be respectful, and trust your own council. I live in a mid size city in the Midwest and have lived on nothing but sports cards at different times for years with a family and a mortgage no matter how up or down the market was. If you treat people right there is always people who want to deal with you.
I can’t wait to see the video from a random card show of you getting punched out by one of these guys you talk about 😂😂😂😂
savage!!! love the content!! Just subscribed!! I witnessed the mania first hand with the investor guy at the last Toronto expo. Wish people would actually listen to what he says....which is nothing worth listening too....Keep up bringing honest content for everyone!
Sports card influencers? Like Kardashians for cardboard? How about this. But what YOU like. Trade for what you like. Let’s get it back to a hobby.
You guys are the Red Letter Media of sports cards. Keep exposing these so-called fraud investors!
I still don't understand how leaf is still in business seeing everyone do t like their cards.
Bro why are y'all worried about someone else pockets?
its actually funny how you roast these guys always have to remember not everything is as good as it seems. Everything Ive made money on I bought from a collector perspective with no intention to ever sell. When I did sell it was hard to part with
i sell cards alot but I always buy for the long term with intention to collect, i learned I can flip and still buy cards i can hold for a long time, even prospects i try to buy prospects i can hold for years if I choose and try n stay away from flash in the pan hype
As somebody that has interacted with some of they guys the go after I think the truth is somewhere in between how the TH-cam influencers portray themselves and how these guys portray them. Some of these guys just aren’t as awful as they are made out to be
PWCC makes Probenstien123 look like Mother Theresa . Good video and you guys are like Rage Against the Machine for me. I don’t agree with everything you say but your mostly right👍
"OUR SUCCESS " "OUR SUCCESS" LOL! Your boy smirk says it all!
Great stuff guys! I love it. This is real entertainment.
I don't care what anyone says BGS has always graded harder than PSA. A BGS 9 is a PSA 10.
Its time for jewelry makers to get into the sports card business. If a card that costs pennies to manufacture can sell for 5, 6, 7 figures, imagine the upside of a card with gold, silver, emarld, ruby.........
Its
Just
Effing
Cardboard
The problem with sportcardinvestor is that he doesn't know sh about sportcards. You can't get tricked by the artifical prizm bubble created by gary and then expect me to take you seriouse. You can't have gains in a time where the hobby was flooded with people that didn't know anything about sports. Have gains woth telling them all what to buy wich in itself gonna raise the "worth" of the specific player or card. He is one of the lamest people ever. He just takes photos from other peoples cards on instagram and uses them for his posts so people look at his posts with cards in the picture he doesn't even own. He is full of bs
Are u serious 60-70 % of the ppl watching weren't collecting in 2012? Wow. I'm not into the "community " but I thought most ppl were late 30s or 40s and been into since at least 90s
Most in the Industry know nothing about cards they just have a lot of cash.
The guy on the right is going to be getting punched out on video in the next 7 days the whole card community is going to 😂 😂😂😂
Yes they will be broke! It's turning into the 90s junk wax era! I called this in 2019 when it all started.
Tip of the Decade... when millionaire's call something Junk that's simply Foo Foo mentality. Wax Era will be the most sought after 20 years or less.
The twin baby clowns back in direct live from their parents retirement home
These dudes are sweet. Only flat brimmed hat wearing goofballs with lumberjack beards are haters.
Geoff is an example of a guy who got into the sports card market and knows nothing about the hobby. He treats cards like stocks.
Biggest question…….what’s the name of your other TH-cam page!? lol
Plus with PSA opening up business in New Jersey. HGA won't be around.
psa had an office in jersey but they dont except subs, there gonna start excepting subs there?
Ryan (Card Collector 2) is a class act! He does kids nights and great for the hobby. Just watch some of his videos on kids night and you will see the type of person he is.
I thought I was the only one that went around media sites, cluing people in to the crooks and thieves!
I think the IRS is taking a real good look at these guys right now. They better have dotted their I's and crossed their T's.
You should show them all this video. They are dying to know what you think of them!
6:57 this shit HITZ different 7 months later sheeeeeesh
Most these card influencers are 🤡. They pump guys and cards they already invested in. That drives the prices and demand up. Then they dump them all and take their profit and do it all over again . Sports card investor is one of the worst. F that guy
love sasha in his mask breaking heavily and making snorting noises
sports card are in a huge bubble. the entire industry is going to depression. and i have a lot of very old cards---worth a lot----that ill be handing down to my kid.
I just love watching you guys and thinking about all the people who are triggered by watching this. - Shizzler
You guys are absolute legends please never stop
Would really enjoy a video like this but of people and companies that are good for the hobby.
Awesome fellas many thanks for the laughs
Love your channel. No sugarcoating no bs, no delusions of grandeur. Keep it up 👍🏻
Delusions of grandeur
I mean they don't educate themselves on the topics. So, it's basically a roast session without knowing much about the people they're talking about.
Definitely comedy involved here, but just slapstick basic stuff.
I feel like everyone treating cards as a buisness but in the end it's a hobby. Only one making money is the one selling the hobby.
How do you guys both have such beta voices? Is that genetic ?
How do you still live with mommy and daddy?
No, I’m actually 35 and living in colombia semi retired 🙃
My man on the right in the beginning looking like a mad creepier version of actor Michael Rappaport 🤣🤣
What's the name of the other channel that you mentioned?
Geoff Wilson just loved that 1st product that Fanatics put out. Remember those kindergarten kid cards that were 2k a box or something? So what's that tell ya?
Jeff said to buy soccer it’s the future of collecting 😂 oh and his little partner that gives card buying advice said to buy Sam darnold cards 😂Jeff is the very essence of grifting a sector for profit
If you don’t think soccer is going to get a big bump with the World Cup starting in starting in November then you haven’t been around cards very long. Try looking back and see what happens when the mens World Cup happens.
@@toddpeterson8909 I can tell by the way your talking you’ve just started in this business in 2020. If you’ve been doing this since 2012 than we could talk. The American market is three sports 🏀 🏈 and ⚾️. ⚽️ is a minority market share sport in America. America has the most card collectors and purchasers in the world. America does not watch soccer you new guys are buying soccer in hopes that people here will care about soccer that’s not going to happen. The guys who bought soccer these last two years are the dumb money. The dumb money spends on something that’s hyped than panics and sells. Dumb money floats around from genre to genre till the money is no more. The dumb money is currently saturating vintage as we speak but that will die down also. Yes soccer will get a dumb pump from World Cup but that’s because dumb money will flow in. As soon as world cup is done than soccer cards will tank even lower. Soccer and f1 are a dumb money fad. You couldn’t give away f1 cards three years ago. And f1 and soccer is not here to stay because you guys are not real collectors so you all will be leaving in a year or two anyway when their isn’t any more money to be made. Than it will become a collectors market again.
@@greekperspective2076 Oh my goodness 2012? Say it ain’t so…. Funny that I was buying and selling cards for nearly 30 years before you even thought about getting in the game. You must be one of those people that buy during the season when the player gets hot, I’m already 3 steps ahead of you because I bought in the dip, ya know like when people are trying to get money for Christmas. But yeah it’s super cool that you bought in the middle of the season and than sold because you were short money on Christmas because you overs spent because you bought cards as values crested.
See with soccer they have something called the World Cup and for the last 4 years teams have been building their squads for this tournament and anyone with the skill could start watching teams play 4 years ago. The put new players on the nearly every match in the first 3 years where you get to see the potential of 16-19 year old and certainly when a kid at 16-19 hasn’t made a name for himself or even stars for that matter you can pick up high end cards for extremely cheap. Just go into eBay and look at the trajectory of National Team cards, if I’m making 35-45% IOI, and that’s the return on a decent player that has a decent tournament.
@@toddpeterson8909 sure your full of crap if your story was true than you wouldn’t be trying to fondle soccer cards of men all day in your basement get lost
@@toddpeterson8909 I know your whole story is made up. I know by what I’m reading from your response. If you been in this game so long you wouldn’t be fondling soccer cards all day.
Researcher : The average radio listener listens for eighteen minutes. The average Howard Stern fan listens for - are you ready for this? - an hour and twenty minutes.
Pig Vomit : How can that be?
Rob is one of the true good people in the hobby.
Truly one of if not the best I have seen here. I recognize the respect and hate. Great commentary/video.
I shop at mikes stadium sportscards. His store is messy. Makes me want to organize it lol
All my modern stuff I bought in 2020 has now tanked. All my high end Tatis & Lebron cards have went to complete garbage prices compared to when I was buying in 2020. Not sure where to go in the hobby now, guess I'll dabble back into vintage again. Grrrrrrr!
Geoff jumped on late in the card market, mojo lmfao, the biggest hobby 🤡 on TH-cam. Donut money must be paying for all his trips to shows. Sports Card Radio, thank you for the content!
You guys want all the smoke but I love it! You are saying what everyone is thinking! Keep going guys!
What’s funny is what they said about these people goes the same for these two 🤣. Can’t believe two grown ass man complaining and talking crap about people. Sure I don’t like these people but damn just mind your own business instead of trying start a fight with them.
They are calling out scammers. Do you support any of this trash?
@@cardcrush3657 So all of these people are scammers? Damn that’s crazy how you’re saying fake crap.
Trust me buddy on the right is going to get violated on camera in the next 7 days I wasn’t supposed to say anything but fuck it I can’t keep it in😂😂
Your take on Sasha t is very different then previous videos...why's that? Idk who he is tbh
Cartoon Character 2! LMFAO!