I farmed arena a lot in classic and I always jumped down from the level above. It's a lot faster than clearing the jail areas but yeah you have to squeeze between the audience for the arena and make sure not to body pull.
@@Cinkrey not it doesn't. you can enjoy hc the way you want. it's called freedom of choice. imposing a way to play upon others is very selfish and not constructive. Is that who yu are ?
@Goldeneye3336 i dont respond well to attacks. As a viewer, i can give my opinion, and I have no idea what you're talking about. I dont enjoy watching people getting mob tagged for example . You could say that its their way of playing, but is it really playing ? Or are you forgetting when people were auctioning stuff for 20k gold that they bought ? Was that enjoyable to you ?
@Goldeneye3336 having said that. I understood that he felt realy bad after the staff warrior died and didnt feel like going through that again.i would have taken a break but he has to do it again because its his job. I understand why he accepted the freebies, i just didnt enjoy it.
@@Goldeneye3336 Ah yes, hardcore is all about making others do everything for you, we forgot, sorry we got it wrong. He hardcore-ily got a bunch of people to fill his character with the best stuff, so hardcore! I agree!
If those didn't count, people would abuse it. You would be able to just unplug your internet cable once you realize you are doomed, due to your own mistake.
The rogue that died in that Mag'gora wasn't bad because he was panicking. He was just plain bad. Camera zoomed in, swapped directions via keys, didn't know what CC to use and so on. He surely wasn't a good PvP player. Might've been okay in PvE.
@@Goldeneye3336 oh i'm shit at PvP, too, but i can see if someone is obviously playing bad. I couldn't tell you when a player wastes a cooldown, but if the basic movement is terrible it's just too obvious.
The Hunter didn't pull mobs because they wouldn't let him have the weapon, he pulled them because after he rolled on it, they kicked him from the group. Tbh, I side with the hunter here.
Honestly been very close to this same situation. I rolled need (as selffound) on the staff from RFK with spirit. It was an upgrade from Crescent staff and any decend player knows spirit is a fine stat while leveling as a hunter (the tunnelvision on agi is for noobs - and also,... how to get an agi 2h weapon at lvl 30ish anyway?). Just because I rolled need (and didn't win the roll btw) the group wanted to kick me, calling me a ninja. They said I was a noob etc, I should just get 2 1-handers with agi on it. But any experienced hunter knows you want a slow 2h to melee-weave with, so at this level you'd rather stick to staves with int/spirit and high dmg than to have daggers with +agi. Anyways... Luckily they didn't kick. But if they would've kicked me, I would've definatelly thought about putting up a grief there. Even if this ZF hunter was wrong to roll on that weapon, he even said in that "its ok", like he wasn't making a problem out of it. Kicking someone for that is just plain dumb, and I totally understand the hunter's frustration to go and grief. Stupidy is just so annoying.
15:36 Vanilla Paladin ist actually freaking good while leveling, if you play it right you deal good damage and have nearly no downtimes. Skill engineering/firs aid, put blessing of wisdom on and you can go forever if you use bandages instead of wasting mana for heals.
i dont get the weapon skill, but i almost got deleted by that lvl 35(?) named mob next to Darkshire in the hut, because my defense skill was like 109/185 and i lost 90% hp from his first hit, a crushing blow crit 😂 BM life i guess.
There's a subtle difference you may have missed. One is relariation against an action, you could say a grief, against the hunter. Getting to the end and wanting an item (even if they shouldn't want it) and then booting them is a grief. Sure it's technically still griefing, but it's in retaliation to a grief against them.
It's no different from farming the mount in scholo (i think it is) and kicking the party at the end to limit the odds of other people getting the mount, or farming t0. 5 and kicking other warriors etc to eliminate competition after using them to get to that point.
(I don't look at followups so preemptive and I'm done 100% ❤️) "yeah but a hunter doesn't need it", totally fair, he doesn't and that conversation should have been had at the start of the group formation and not once all parties had invested an hour plus into the event. Anyways, cheers, have fun yall and hope you enjoy whatever you're playing!
@@oopomopoo Mm, naw that's completely different because mounts are generally open to free roll loot rules (everyone can use mounts equally) where as needing on items that are useless for you when other people could use them as an upgrade is called ninja looting. So the hunter double grief the group.
Guzu, my dear duck boy - what has become of your SoD hardcore character? Stuck at level 25 and phase 1? Or dead and deleted? Why don't you gallop that character up levels for us, I'd watch that.
@@altararitan5633You'll never explain them. In their eyes this warrior is a chad, not a dumbass who ruined run to feed his greed & pride, as he hadn't to harmstring mobs for his "homie" if hunter "ninja looted" the item (he needs to win roll at first), because it is what it is, it is a fuking preraid weapon
@@cm9334 Hunter can melee weave + it's a good sword. Babyraging warrior is what caused all that. Don't kick someone you're doing a dungeon with. You're not entitled to any loot.
Random Krol Blade bought me my first epic mount in 2006. Life was goooood.
love this lol
that first staff of jordan at lvl 42 in 2004 was peak
33:33 Christmas has come early for Stitches. Best hardcore death.
I farmed arena a lot in classic and I always jumped down from the level above. It's a lot faster than clearing the jail areas but yeah you have to squeeze between the audience for the arena and make sure not to body pull.
HC Hype! HC Hype!
Really glad to hear Guzu's doing HC again but have to say I hope there won't be too many freebies this time around...
it will be solo self found thankfully . getting full bis items while you level realy takes away from the hc experience .
@@Cinkrey not it doesn't. you can enjoy hc the way you want. it's called freedom of choice. imposing a way to play upon others is very selfish and not constructive. Is that who yu are ?
@Goldeneye3336 i dont respond well to attacks. As a viewer, i can give my opinion, and I have no idea what you're talking about. I dont enjoy watching people getting mob tagged for example . You could say that its their way of playing, but is it really playing ? Or are you forgetting when people were auctioning stuff for 20k gold that they bought ? Was that enjoyable to you ?
@Goldeneye3336 having said that. I understood that he felt realy bad after the staff warrior died and didnt feel like going through that again.i would have taken a break but he has to do it again because its his job. I understand why he accepted the freebies, i just didnt enjoy it.
@@Goldeneye3336 Ah yes, hardcore is all about making others do everything for you, we forgot, sorry we got it wrong. He hardcore-ily got a bunch of people to fill his character with the best stuff, so hardcore! I agree!
Lagging deaths should not count imo
They are deaths tho
If those didn't count, people would abuse it.
You would be able to just unplug your internet cable once you realize you are doomed, due to your own mistake.
In our hearts, the real lag deaths don't count
some times they die
We need to see guzu play as healer on hardcore
@21:00 That Paladin had the the stun available - he was to slow and didnt save the healers life - RIP
hunters in classic needing every weapon
This video was soemthing else!
the 4:10 is just too funny. holy !!
Kent Tower.... I can't Dx Trying to say centaur
These Typos Are Soemthing Else...
Only one I feel sorry for is the warrior who died because The Lag Gods weren't kind to him.
love these videos!
W HUNTER ON THE NINJA PULL
Pops a legend
Damn hc clips been stored up since 2023. 😂
No Guzu, MORT is not Italian, it indeed is French
This would be good if the clueless person wasnt talking in the video.
Did pulling Archaedas ever work like that in vanilla or is that an old Kronos strat that has survived from that spaghetti code?
The rogue that died in that Mag'gora wasn't bad because he was panicking. He was just plain bad. Camera zoomed in, swapped directions via keys, didn't know what CC to use and so on. He surely wasn't a good PvP player. Might've been okay in PvE.
The backseating analyst who hasn't proven themself strikes again. Boring. Next.
@@Goldeneye3336 The guy is correct though. That was painful to watch.
@@Roggay47 Nah
@@Goldeneye3336 oh i'm shit at PvP, too, but i can see if someone is obviously playing bad. I couldn't tell you when a player wastes a cooldown, but if the basic movement is terrible it's just too obvious.
@@Faude18 The backseating never stops with you. Focus on your own gameplay xD
Base jumping is exciting but dangerous. Shit can malfunction. F
Id blame The chimney. According common lore about Santa Claus chimneys should lead to house underneath
HC- make it to naxx and power flickers enough to drop your network router. Rip
the Krol Blade Flankz have a Viskar now ^^
When Pops started Hardcore, he was in diapers.
Nah. We love Pops. He's great and trying his best.
i need a pops error speech addon.
i couldn't get any rage!
i just couldn't get any rage
KEN TOWERS = CENTAURS
LOL
This is soemthing else
Yes my warrior runs Maexxnas Fang :D No one wanted it and I was running Trash Blade from Maraudon befor LOL
The Hunter didn't pull mobs because they wouldn't let him have the weapon, he pulled them because after he rolled on it, they kicked him from the group.
Tbh, I side with the hunter here.
Honestly been very close to this same situation. I rolled need (as selffound) on the staff from RFK with spirit. It was an upgrade from Crescent staff and any decend player knows spirit is a fine stat while leveling as a hunter (the tunnelvision on agi is for noobs - and also,... how to get an agi 2h weapon at lvl 30ish anyway?). Just because I rolled need (and didn't win the roll btw) the group wanted to kick me, calling me a ninja. They said I was a noob etc, I should just get 2 1-handers with agi on it. But any experienced hunter knows you want a slow 2h to melee-weave with, so at this level you'd rather stick to staves with int/spirit and high dmg than to have daggers with +agi.
Anyways... Luckily they didn't kick. But if they would've kicked me, I would've definatelly thought about putting up a grief there.
Even if this ZF hunter was wrong to roll on that weapon, he even said in that "its ok", like he wasn't making a problem out of it. Kicking someone for that is just plain dumb, and I totally understand the hunter's frustration to go and grief. Stupidy is just so annoying.
Man I am rooting for PopsBarnGrill so hard
More Like Cheesemove, dude
If I got kicked too for something I hadn't done, I'de wipe that shit too. Takes so much time to start and do a dungeon
I think it was for what he was intending to do, not sure though.
He may have been saying "I will need on this item if it drops" and they didn't want him with them after it, just speculating.
Tbf, that Warr tank was calling for the Hunter to be kicked, could've just not been a stingy bunch of wankers and wouldn't have died :D karma honestly
man that naxx geared warrior got Z axis'ed from the room below..
get frenched
I need HC to come back with a fresh server :(
15:36 Vanilla Paladin ist actually freaking good while leveling, if you play it right you deal good damage and have nearly no downtimes. Skill engineering/firs aid, put blessing of wisdom on and you can go forever if you use bandages instead of wasting mana for heals.
The one at 20:00 was fucking tense
How do people even get this far? The Hunter and the Paladin are both extremely bad.
Would be great to play HC with you on an EU realm *hint *hint
how does a full naxx geared warrior die in scholo he should legit be 2 shotting the mobs he must just be a trash warrior
Does guzu not know the courier is undead and can’t be feared? He said “you have fear, use fear” like 10 times. Lol
its forsaken so they are tagged as humanoid for balance purposes
That hunter with no weapon skill is the perfect example of all hunters.. scuffed and room temp IQ
i dont get the weapon skill, but i almost got deleted by that lvl 35(?) named mob next to Darkshire in the hut, because my defense skill was like 109/185 and i lost 90% hp from his first hit, a crushing blow crit 😂 BM life i guess.
Hey man whats with all the swearing.
hayche-pee
u mispelled something
y u put soemthing
u failed 3rd grade
You mispelled a whole lot more. U failed kindergarten ?
Guzu's community seems filled with griefers considering their comments on the hunter.
There's a subtle difference you may have missed.
One is relariation against an action, you could say a grief, against the hunter. Getting to the end and wanting an item (even if they shouldn't want it) and then booting them is a grief.
Sure it's technically still griefing, but it's in retaliation to a grief against them.
It's no different from farming the mount in scholo (i think it is) and kicking the party at the end to limit the odds of other people getting the mount, or farming t0. 5 and kicking other warriors etc to eliminate competition after using them to get to that point.
(I don't look at followups so preemptive and I'm done 100% ❤️)
"yeah but a hunter doesn't need it", totally fair, he doesn't and that conversation should have been had at the start of the group formation and not once all parties had invested an hour plus into the event.
Anyways, cheers, have fun yall and hope you enjoy whatever you're playing!
@@oopomopoo Mm, naw that's completely different because mounts are generally open to free roll loot rules (everyone can use mounts equally) where as needing on items that are useless for you when other people could use them as an upgrade is called ninja looting. So the hunter double grief the group.
@@BillRevis Hunters can use both One-Handed and Two-Handed swords. The weapon is 100% useful to a Hunter. Your logic is invalid.
Guzu, my dear duck boy - what has become of your SoD hardcore character? Stuck at level 25 and phase 1? Or dead and deleted? Why don't you gallop that character up levels for us, I'd watch that.
W Hunter
Guzu is so fake it's cringe
What makes him fake? Also why cringe? Why do people use the same words 😂
@@user-fg3fv9hl3b Probably because his overeactions
Shouldn't have kicked the hunter for an item he could technically use in hc tbh.
Found the huntard!!
@@cm9334 warr main mate :)
@@cm9334 I'd let him roll, whoever wins, wins
@@altararitan5633You'll never explain them. In their eyes this warrior is a chad, not a dumbass who ruined run to feed his greed & pride, as he hadn't to harmstring mobs for his "homie" if hunter "ninja looted" the item (he needs to win roll at first), because it is what it is, it is a fuking preraid weapon
@@cm9334 Hunter can melee weave + it's a good sword. Babyraging warrior is what caused all that. Don't kick someone you're doing a dungeon with. You're not entitled to any loot.
earlygang
09:12 cuz you are thinking about your freaking turkish. Who da cares
This is soemthing else