I'm sure there was some balance in there. Aang didn't really have a traditional family of his own growing up, but he saw Katara's family unit and the family he made along the way. But, did he have an example of what a good dad looks like? Definitely not! And he had such a burdensome job to beging with, he wasn't exactly set up for success there.
@@TheFangirlWatches oh... I just realized Hakoda was also a traveling father to Katara who was going around in wars. Aang was pretty much the same to his first two children, no?
I don’t understand why Aang didn’t teach the culture and values of the air nomads to Bumi and Kya. It is their culture too and it would have strengthened all of their bonds.
On one hand its horrible that all his kids suffered because even Tenzin felt pressure to be perfect all his life, and on the other I'm glad they showed Aang's flaws as a dad to show that he's only human. I wonder how Katara tried to keep the family together despite how Aang was favoring Tenzin?
Right. I mean, he never had a real father and had to grow very quickly. It makes sense that he wouldn't be good at parenting. Not to mention the pressure of having to be the avatar his entire life while also knowing he and his youngest child are the only hope fir airbenders coming back. That's a lot for one guy to handle.
That’s the other side that I didn’t really touch on here, but when you have a golden child and scape goat dynamics as kids that doesn’t mean the golden child has a great or better life. Instead they get overloaded with all the expectations of their parents, and that takes it’s own psychological toll. It’s probably why Tenzin has always been so serious.
Katara might not have seen it as Aang spending so much time with Tenzin as an issue. When she met Haru, she argued that he shouldn't quit Earthbending because she saw it as a part of him, she wanted to learn from Hama because of their shared "heritage" and in the "Imbalance" comics, she emphasized how integral bending was to her cultural identity even though there are only a select amount of people with bending. Katara tends to view bending as its own separate form of culture. It's possible that she viewed Aang monopolizing so much of Tenzin's time as a means of connecting to their culture in a way only Airbenders can understand. Katara is usually blinded by her own idealism and since her ideals on bending were never challenged in "The Last Airbender", it's likely that they have remained consistent up to "The Legend of Korra".
I'm kind of happy Aang wasn't a perfect parent because of how realistic is it. It shows us that even the "Chosen One" can be flawed despite their best efforts. I could even see Aang trying to be as present of a father he could (between Avatar stuff) for Boomie and Kaya up until Tenzen showed signs of being an airbender and then becoming lost in the intensive crash course. Also, I too find it strange that curture seems to be divided up depending on the bender you turn out to be xD Kaya wearing Water Tribe stuff could make sense since that's where she grew up..but I have a feeling that might still have been the case if she grew up in Republic City. Boomie isn't a bender so he doesn't wear clothing distinct of any nation UNTIL becomes an airbender.
You’re right! I think Bumi wears that dark red military color like Asami (another non-bender). But I wonder if Kya always dressed like a water tribe person or if she just defaulted to that when she moved back to the South Pole to be with Katara. It’s hard to tell from the black and white photo, but it kind of looks like water tribe was her style all along, and Bumi is just wearing like nice clothing that doesn’t denote his background. I wonder if Bumi would have supported the Equalists in season 1 lol!
@@fireycard9338 clearly not as open minded as you may think since you automatically assume my opinion would be different if it were Korra... I'm guessing that may be you trying to insinuate some kind of discrimination -.- Yeah ~ no.
I personally wish that Aang had talked to his children in that spirit world episode. Like, how can he only talk to Tenzin but ignore the other two? Also, they really should have showed flashbacks of how Aang and Katara were as parents but they didn't for some reason yet in last airbender they showed flashbacks of Zuko and Aang back in last Airbender
There was a sense from the beginning that this was Korra's story and the old Gaang didn't matter as much now, but after season 1 they gave Aang's family more space in the series, yet they still kept the view of Aang one-sided from his kids - Katara never tells stories or pulls out old notes or anything. But the Spirit World thing was not actually Aang, it was Tenzin being confronted by his nightmare of disappointing his father. Still though, I imagine Bumi and Kya were seeing their dad too, and it would have been nice to see that (even though I think Tenzin was the only person who worked through his issues, which briefly cleared the fog).
I feel like the flashbacks between Aang, Katara, and their kids wouldn't have been needed and just take up screen time. They were written well enough that we were able to see their entire childhood from their present selves.
This kind of reminds me of when I was a child in kindergarten; a girl came to our class halfway through the year but, she didn't speak English and had to take ESL classes. I found out years later that even though the girl was born and raised in America her parents didn't teach her English and kept her at home alot, because they were afraid she wouldn't learn their culture properly. They were so focused ,other essential skills for her were neglected.
Oh that sounds rough! They actually threw one of my kids in the ESL program for a bit because he was too shy to talk so they thought he didn't understand English. It's not a bad program, but there is so much focus on trying to learn everything in 2 languages that the kids end up behind their peers academically, and the older they get the harder it can be to transition to the English-only classrooms. :(
I thought Kya’s character was more interested in girls? Therefore she would have an estranged female fiancé if she was ever engaged. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
Thank god someone else thinks the same way I do. That people believe Kya and Bumi are servants since apparently Aang never mentioned the other children. Then Bumi and Kya made it clear that "dad took trips with Tenzin" and I get that Tenzin was the other last Airbender, but still there was no excuse for the neglect of the others. When Bumi developed latent powers, I was so hoping he would have gone to Aang's grave and yelled at it, calling him out on the neglect. i always hoped that Bumi's powers would have been stronger than Tenzin's to just ram it home what a crappy parent Aang was the fact that Bumi with no powers achieved great prowess and promotion, and he did it all by himself. that's more impressive.Aang may have loved his children, but as a parent, he wasn't great
There was one point where Bumi talks about doing his best to save the world and that he tried his best to make you (dad) proud. I feel like poor Bumi and Kya never get to have that heartfelt chat with their father or mother to help them feel better, and I would have loved to see that. BUT, it's also important to show that some people are never going to give you what you need to feel better, because that's how real life works. People hurt you and they don't even realize it.
@@TheFangirlWatches true but as you said, Aang didn't just neglect his other children, he denied them their own heritage. Kya being a water bender, was more like Katara, while Bumi never got a look in. it was as if he put his own children into categories. Tenzin, you're with me, Kya, be with your mother and Bumi, well your no use to me, just go hang out with Sokka, being non-benders you've got more in common. the fact is that Bumi could have become a non-bending acolyte or studied the religion of the airbenders or come to understand his place better in the world, but LOK makes Aang come across as a crappy parent.
I know! It’s almost painful to see how fulfilled yet hurt Bumi seems about it. The very thing that could have changed and validated his whole life showed up too late to get the recognition he wanted from Aang. T_T
Well that's why I think Aang and Katara lived apart once the kids started coming. You can't get your wife pregnant if you're on the other side of the world, after all. But the fact that they kept having kids quite a few years apart seems to suggest that Aang was waiting for bending powers to manifest before they moved on to the next child. I'd say by the time Tenzin arrived, Aang and Katara's relationship was pretty strained and there may have been a health reason that they went 1 and done with the airbenders.
It's really tough to realize that people who you thought were good and perfect (like a lot of protagonists in media are pertraid as) aren't that perfect at the end. But I think that makes AtlA and LoK more believable and definitely likeable. Back then everybody loved Aang and Toph in the original, but with the second series and the stories about their "questionable" ways of raising their children it was clear that they are normal people with their strengths and flaws after all. I'm not saying that they are terrible people ( I think they're far from that even though they'll never be as good as Iroh) and having favourites as a parent isn't something unusual. Both my parents were the youngest of 4/6 children and it wasn't difficult for them to find out that their parents had their favourites of their own.
"They'll never be as good as Iroh" - that's some serious true talk right there! Can we just love on Iroh for a minute? Because he was all set and ready to take on the Fire Nation throne, but then his son died and that ambition didn't matter any more. He lost at Ba Sing Se because his heart stopped caring about the mission once he couldn't have the only thing that really meant something to him - his son. But, instead of wallowing for the rest of his life over his loss, he instead devoted himself to making other people know they mattered. I'm not sure if anyone could ever live up to that amazing kind of humanity.
@@TheFangirlWatches Yeah what a heartbreaking story that is. I'll never forget his story in Tales of Ba Sing Se and Leaves from the vine. And then the way he cares for Zuko as if he was his own, always trying to support him, guiding him on the right way and never being angry at him when he makes a wrong choice (ok the comment about all tea being simply hot leaf juice was kinda rough for Iroh but besides that 20/10)
Maybe Aang didn't know how to be a parent, he never mentioned his and we see all the kids being raised by the older monks/nuns. Their nomadic free spirit non judgemental lifestyle made them prone to favor "chosen" family than "blood" family; In Kyoshi's backstory novel there's a nomad that acts as a parental figure but also there is an air nomad that leaves it's child. I like the burden of air nomads legacy thing you brought up... Do you think that Tenzin broke up with Lin (or in any case got interested in Pema) so that his children would be air benders? Like "air benders genes" are dominant over "non-benders genes" but might cancel out with other type of "benders genes". They also had more children in a shorter period than Aang&Katara
lol funny enough I already wrote a script on why Tenzin and Lin broke up, and you're pretty on target for what I said! As far as I can tell, Tenzin has no romantic feelings for Pema, she's just a broodmare for his father's legacy.
@@TheFangirlWatches I can only hope that after the harmonic convergence and the resurgence or the air benders, their relationship developed in a healthy way. They didn't seem to be in a toxic one (if Tenzin wanted to have as many children he could had a harem of air acolytes) but as you said it didn't struck me as madly in love either... Poor Pema, I remember having random anxiety over something going wrong during my pregnancy, can't imagine what would be like when it's expected of you to pop lots of healthy babies. I'm sure I'm missing details so i can't wait for your next video 😁👍 honestly you deserve more subscribers! ✨💕
No. He wanted kids and she didn’t. Besides there’s no one else who would have the “Airbender gene” but him and his family (which is 🤢 🤮) so no matter what he’d have to rely on luck
I find Aang being a not so great father is very interesting and valuable to the series. It shows how imperfect people really are. Last Airbender is aimed at Kids. As younglings we see the word a certain way? Think we know everything, etc. And when you get older, you realize you don’t know anything. And you’re not perfect Aang was like a 1950s dad who is a traveling salesman. Dad just isn't there. And when he is? Time is short. And when it came to having three kids, the one who had the traits more like dad got more quality time compared to the rest. People treat this as a “Aang would never be a bad father. And Katara would never have let him be a bad father”. I find problems with that theory. I'm sure Katara and Aang knew what they were getting themselves into. He's the Avatar. He's not going to be a father who is around all the time. I mean, how long did it take to create Republic City? Aang just wasn't around. So Katara probably resorted to her old water tribe survival tendencies and what she knew -- which was be an over attentive mother. When we see someone taken care of, we assume they’re fine. “They have Katara, she will make sure they don’t feel alone or isolated”. And as children, you’re not going to go after your parents and condemn them-especially when dad is the avatar and has enough pressure on his shoulders. They probable were exposed to a lot of fights and pressure they decided to not be confrontational about it. So the problem doesn’t get addressed. And Katara understood the importance of "culture". She's a southern water bender, she is the last water bender of her tribe. So she probably understood that Tenzin needed to learn what Aang knew of his culture, and she used the same mentality with Kya. And even if Katara didn't relate to Aang in regards to culture and disagreed with how he was treating his kids, so what? As Avatar Yang Chen said "Your duty is to the world". He chose to have a family. That's fine. He chose to have kids. That's also fine. But his primary responsibility is to be the Avatar. Remember Avatar Korruk during the flashbacks? The "go with the flow" one that died in this thirties and wasn't attentive to the world issues and only cared about himself? Aang wasn't going to do that. He had a responsibility. It sucks. But it is very true to how many families end up. I wouldn’t say it’s willful neglect. It's neglect as a byproduct of status and incidental pressure. Aang had a job to do. Be the Avatar. He was not a 9 am - 5 pm Avatar with benefits and a pension, with vacation and holidays that would have allowed him to be home often. And they didn’t have therapy or the Dr. Phil shoe back then 😜
You got avatar Korruk all wrong, he didn’t just care about himself, the reason he died so young was because he was fixing Avatar YangChen’s screw-up. She paid no attention to the spirits and the spirit side of the avatar was 👎 so he wasted his life force fixing the spirit world and reconnecting to all the spirits.
@@tylermakesvideos5972 Yes, but per his affirmation of his own personality and character to Aang prior to the Kioshi books, that's how he described himself - even if it was protecting YangChen and lying. That's what I was going off of.
Well grownig up none of the air nomads had "parents" aang probably didnt know how to be a dad since he didnt have one himself. Then when he had tenzin he probably felt he had to raise him the same way monk iatso raised him. (I probably spelt names wrong, sorry)
I LOVE this! As usual, you brought up _great_ points that I hadn't even considered! I always assumed that Katara went to back to the Southern Water Tribe in her old age (due to the comment Kya made when she was arguing with Tenzin and Bumi. She seemed to express resentment towards them, saying that SHE was the only one to "support mom" and come with her when she moved back to the South pole. And Tenzin protested, saying that he had the Air Nation to lead, etc) but like you point out, they do seem to refer to the South Pole as "home". This is why I love your videos. You really dive deep into these characters. And in regards to Aang dying, you bring up a good point; I just assumed Katara got tired if being pregnant, or Aang was just "too busy" but it does make more sense that Aang simply felt his body weakening. And sadly, the Legacy book you read at the end seems to indicate that it wasn't just Aang who favored Tenzin. It sounds like Katara might have done so as well. I guess it's possible that MAYBE they also wrote similar books for Bumi and Kya, but...yeah I doubt it. It's disappointing that Katara, as "motherly" as she was always considered, would make such a mistake. It makes me think of Bumi, after the Harmonic Convergence, when he gained air bending. After he reveals his powers to the family at dinner, he says something like, "wait till I tell mom.. she's gonna be so proud" (or something similar) despite him being a military legend and considered a hero, he equates gaining air bending abilities to making her "proud". This really makes me sad. It's also worth mentioning that the water scroll was included in this book to TENZIN. Like, WHY?? Why wasn't it given to Kya? I realize it could just be a publishing thing that they included as a "gift" to the purchaser, but it just seems strange that this water scroll would be given to Tenzin in particular. Katara was the last Bender of the Southern Water Tribe specifically (at the time, anyway) so it seems strange she wouldn't give it to Kya. Obviously Korra's father was a water bender, so I'm guessing more water benders were eventually born to the tribe (unless they were Northern Water Nation transplants) I'm just really disappointed in these parents. Usagi and Mamoru (Usagi in particular) was so busy ruling and protecting the Earth that they pretty much ignored Chibi Usa.. tho it explains why Princess Serenity was so obsessed with Endymion if her mother was anything like she herself turned out to be. And Goku was an _AWFUL_ father only interested in training, fighting, and eating, etc. Naruto sucked as well, which was strange considering he himself remembered what it felt like to be abandoned and ignored. And don't get me started on Ariel and Simba... it's truly alarming how neglectful these characters end up becoming when they themselves become parents.
It's not that out of character as you might think for Katara to pay more attention to her bending children than her non-bending child. In "The Last Airbender", she idealizes bending as its own separate culture. She argued that Haru should continue Earthbending because it was a part of who he was, she wanted to learn from Hama because of their shared "heritage", and emphasized how integral bending was to her culture "Imbalance" comics. I've never seen her views on the subject challenged in the series, so we can only assume that it hasn't changed all that much in "The Legend of Korra". She was likely more attentive towards her bending children because it was her equivalent of cultural pride, she probably wasn't aware about the repercussions it would have on Bumi, she may have even encouraged Aang to spend more time with Tenzin because she thought that they could connect to their culture in a way only Airbenders can understand. She was also the only Waterbender in her tribe for the longest time and that may not be the case now, the South Pole was a predominantly non-bender nation before she was born. Even with the support from their sister tribe, it likely took time for Waterbenders to repopulate the region, which is why she was also keen on passing her teachings onto her Waterbending daughter. Since there were likely more non-benders than benders in the South Pole during her marriage, Katara might have assumed that Bumi would not be lacking in companionship surrounded by his fellow non-benders, leaving her more free time with her bending children. I'm not saying that Katara was a bad mother, but she is easily blinded by her idealism. To her bending is a different culture entirely, but, unlike most cultures, this one is not defined by one's genealogical roots, it is defined by pure circumstance...circumstances that Bumi wasn't born with.
He just chose to focus a majority of his energy into bringing back the air nation. He clearly showed potential to be a great dad; he just chose to put his focus into other goals. If he hadn't had a kid that was born with the ability to airbend, he would've given them all equal attention. But alas, his goal of revitalizing the air nation took priority in his mind over his children. Even when it came to Tenzin, Aang saw him as more of a tool to further his agenda.
This plot just doesn't work for me. If he did start showing favoritism, Katara would talk to him about it. He also has a relgious order of non benders, who were strangers, who he teaches nomad culture to. It's nonsensical to think he wouldn't teach his other two kids. Bending is not the only aspect of culture .This isn't "realistic human flaws" it's forced drama that doesn't flow from previously established characterization. Aang was always flawed, but this kind of flawed renders him utterly unlikable, and kind of renders the previous show meaningless. He didn't learn anything. And apparently his wife and best friend (Zuko, who's life was destroyed by favoritism) didn't say anything. That's why I loathe this new trend of "hero grows up to be a crappy parent" stories.
finally someone who makes sense, the writers did the drama on purpose... which does not agree with Aang personality, he was considerate and empathetic with everyone and then the writers tell us that he did not realize how his kids where feeling. Everyone can justify however it wants, but it just doesn't fit with who Aang truly was, he could teach air nomads to a bunch of strangers in the temples but not his children come on...... even as a family they did not have vacations, come on even fire lord ozai had vacations with family even though he was evil. This is just bad writing nothing else....And as you say he could have some many other flaws but being a neglectful parent does make sense at all.
i disagree, i think he was a good dad, yeah, he spent more time with his son tenzin but it was for a reason, its not like he just hated the others and liked tenzin, he was a airbender and he wanted him to grow up in his legacy, he did the same with the others, he didnt spend AS much time with them, but he still did, AND he is still the last airbender, keep that thought, so if he is the last airbender it actully is his duty to train his son, who ALSO is a airbender, so they can build up the air nation again, becuase remeber he was the last air bender becuase fire lord sozin killed them all
Not be an abusive parent or being a busy parent doesn't mean your a good/the best parent. He was a good dad to 1 kid. He could have taken the other children along and teach his culture to ALL of his kids. That's their heritage too. It's like only teaching your culture to your darkest mixed child as a black parent in an interracial relationship. You're kinda a bad parent because of what you CAN give your kids, your focusing on just one. Not necessarily abusive, but not good.
By the way, I noticed that the authors well distributed the temperaments of parents to their children: Bumi is Sokka and Aang Kaya is Sokka and Katara Tenzin is Aang and Katara
Well, Aang never learned how to be inna family beside the "Gaang" but it was a brotherhood, he did the best he could, he tried to be a mentor to Tenzin like Monk Gyatso was for him. We can't blame him since he never experienced bring raised by parents and he didn't know how to be a father. I understand it wasn't okay for him to favourite one of his children but it wasn't his fault.
@@TheFangirlWatches i know right then they scrapped the idea even though both VA were on board with the idea and it kinda sad that they portray aang as a horrible father and Sokka never had any kids and what about suki?
Aang is my favorite character in the franchise. Nothing a gonna change my mind on that. But seeing him focus on the one thing that could revive his nation so much while neglecting the rest of his family(and I’m fairly sure it wasn’t intentional)and seeing them fall apart due to the Firelord killing all the airbenders expect for him is just heartbreaking.
Actually Kya was more interested by girls. This thing wasn't clear in the show but in the comics she confess to Korra and Asami. So maybe she was engaged whit a woman!
I feel like there's a lost episode somewhere that has Katara pulling out all these notes and pictures for her kids to settle the "dad didn't love us as much" debate. But, alas, we never got it. T_T
I think overall avatars are just not meant to be parents, they constantly are out saving the world so they don’t have time for their kids at all and if the kids are benders then the avatar has to put pressure to make sure they teach their kids the way of bending before it’s too late. Aang was the same way but had a burden as at the time, the last airbender.
Katara is 2 years older than Aang. Aang died at the age of 66. Korra was born the EXACT INSTANT Aang died. Katara was 85, Tenzin was 51 and Korra was 17 when "The Legend of Korra" began. Meaning Aang was 32 and Katara was 34 when they had Tenzin. Which means even if Tenzin was not a airbender, they still had enough time to have at least one more child. Also, I THINK Bumi is 8 years older then Tenzin, while Kya is only 3 years older then Tenzin. (I could be wrong.) If that's true, then that would mean: Aang would be 24 and Katara would be 26 when they had Bumi. Aang would be 29 and Katara would be 31 when they had Kya. Again, I MIGHT be wrong about Bumi and Kya's ages.🤷♂
I think it's a good thing that bumi is a non bender if he was a air bender his dad would let him go on the trips and his sister would get lonely it would be just his mother and sister at home.
aang was old , like over 100 years old. he was not a bad dad he was the avatar and also was raised by monks. technically spirit bending could have unlocked his first son bending but yeah he was not too much a foward thinker in that way.
I think Aang and Katara's family lived in the suburbs in the Water Tribe as Bumi and Kya refer to it as home instead of living in Republic City as it was Aang and Sokka's workplace literally
They are! And Bumi gets airbending and can't even share his excitement with his dad, he has to settle for his crotchety brother who approves of NOTHING! 😂
@@TheFangirlWatches yeah, and we barely see him and Kya after that and we don't really know if they came to terms with their past and heritage. Cause like in the Legacy book, neither Katara nor Aang recognize them as part of the Air Nation and that still drives me crazy😑 not even Sokka and Toph acknowledged their Air Nomad heritage
@@TheFangirlWatches Thank you!! That's so sweet! And I'm most certainly trying, binging ATLA And Korra again is probably the safest thing to do right now xD
Come on, give Aang a break. He had it rough as well, the stress of having to carry on the Air Nomads culture would probably weigh super heavily on him.
@@TheFangirlWatches Well right, but the title is Aang is a horrible father, and you blame Aang for not being there for his kids. He probably gave them as much love as he could. I didn't see it as him not being there for them, but that the situation itself was not ideal. He had a huge hand in building the new world, and I think his kids understood that too. like for example, Bumi could have put the pressure of not being a bender on himself, but grew some sort of resentment because he viewed himself as not good enough to his dad. Idk, that's what i took away from it, you did sorta touch on that, i just think ultimately i can sympathize entirely with what Aang went through.
One thing that really bothers me about Aang being a horrible father is that it messes up Katara's character. I don't think Katara was the kind of character that would just let Aang neglect his children without handing him his rear about it. I am not sure that Katara would ever have excused Aang's behavior as "Well yeah but.. he is the Avatar after all and um.. he needs to preserve his airbenders." No way would Katara let Aang get away with that kind of neglect. She wasn't the submissive type that would have allowed it to go on for so long that Bumi and Kya had a resentment for their father even into their older ages. The fact that Tenzin was talking about how amazing his vacations with Aang were (which weren't about air nomad culture) and the fact Aang never once thought to take Bumi or Kya with him on those vacations speaks volumes.... it would speak even worse of Katara if she had just sat back and let that happen. Katara just seems the type that would have given Aang an ultimatum, to actually be a father in their children's lives, or risk losing her. Because if Katara just stood and let it happen, never once getting on Aang for his lack of fatherhood then it would reflect poorly on her character as well. So Aang being a bad father doesn't just work in terms of a perception of Aang, but of Katara as well. As I can't imagine Katara just letting that slide for as long as it did, all the way till Aang's passing.
II think everyone took Aang not taking Bumi and Kya on vacation as him neglecting them. And Bumi and Kya saying they never felt like part of the air nation. So Aang never taught them about it and excluded them, right? Wrong. Go back to season three, episode 7, Original Airbenders, at three minutes in, Kya says that she can never remember all the airbender gurus names because there were quote "Like a million of them." but she never would have said that if she was never taught about them. Which means Aang did teach Bumi and Kya about airbender history, it just probably didn't stick, because they weren't airbenders. But it DID stick with Tenzin because he WAS an airbender. It had been 30 to 40 years since their childhood, so things probably got mixed up and forgotten. Maybe Bumi and Kya interpreted something Aang did as neglect-full as kids cause they were jealous of Tenzin's bond with Aang and then stuck with it their whole life. And part of me understands taking Tenzin on vacations alone, as he was the only airbender, but if I'm right about Bumi and Kya just not caring about airbender history then I understand him not bothering to take them. I still don't like the amount of pressure Aang put on Tenzin, and I wish he took Bumi and Kya vacations. But I used to think he was a bad dad but now I just think he had his faults like every other parent
@@TheFangirlWatches she does say she keeps it private lol Kya kind of recognises whats going on with Korra and Asami and goes to talk with them. Apparently the Southern water tribe are really conservative when it comes to sexuality. You ask me the writers are just giving an in universe explanation for nickelodeon not allowing LGBT+ representation at that time lol
lol I think half the comments are “hey, Kya’s a lesbian.” They don’t even HINT at it in the show, but I’ll be excited to read more about her in the comics then!
@@TheFangirlWatches i totally agree, he should have spent more time with them. I know he wanted his other 2 kids to be happy and live their lives but its the resentment they felt that i feel sorry for
Aang being a bad father may not be a surprise but why bag him knowing he had practically no choice but to favor Tenzin why aren't people saying Katara is a bad adult or mom she should have never outlawed bloodbending being by the time she married or bumi is born she's the only person alive knowing bloodbending's existence should have kept it to her self and trusted others with the info training with it on criminals or taught Kya it as a last standing offense in case of absolute emergency. Then Yakone and his sons would never be as dangerous as they are.
Aang just had a lot of pressure to continue being the avatar, have air bending children, and all the pressure. I can see how and why aang would have a hard time being there for his kids. I don’t know why people think aang is out of character for not being there for his kids. All great points and a great video!
Oh, don't worry, I've got a whole video ready to talk about Toph soon too! I just want to give people some time to get through the series before I get to that one!
I’m surprised Katara didn’t object 2 Aang’s favouritism 🤨 I thought she was all about showing love 2 EVERY1? I wish they’d told their mum in season 2 about how neglected she & Aang had made them feel & maybe she’d realise her mistakes & APOLOGISE!
It's not that out of character as you might think for Katara to pay more attention to her bending children than her non-bending child. In "The Last Airbender", she idealizes bending as its own separate culture. She argued that Haru should continue Earthbending because it was a part of who he was, she wanted to learn from Hama because of their shared "heritage", and emphasized how integral bending was to her culture "Imbalance" comics. I've never seen her views on the subject challenged in the series, so we can only assume that it hasn't changed all that much in "The Legend of Korra". She was likely more attentive towards her bending children because it was her equivalent of cultural pride, she probably wasn't aware about the repercussions it would have on Bumi, she may have even encouraged Aang to spend more time with Tenzin because she thought that they could connect to their culture in a way only Airbenders can understand. She was also the only Waterbender in her tribe for the longest time and that may not be the case now, the South Pole was a predominantly non-bender nation before she was born. Even with the support from their sister tribe, it likely took time for Waterbenders to repopulate the region, which is why she was also keen on passing her teachings onto her Waterbending daughter. Since there were likely more non-benders than benders in the South Pole during her marriage, Katara might have assumed that Bumi would not be lacking in companionship surrounded by his fellow non-benders, leaving her more free time with her bending children. I'm not saying that Katara was a bad mother, but she is easily blinded by her idealism. To her bending is a different culture entirely, but, unlike most cultures, this one is not defined by one's genealogical roots, it is defined by pure circumstance...circumstances that Bumi wasn't born with.
Yeah lot of good points there. Truth be told, I don’t actually like Katara largely due to her righteous views with her ethics & idealism as she tends to act like her idea of doing things is the only ‘right way’ to do it (heavily seen in the eps ‘Imprisoned’, ‘The Painted Lady’, ‘The Runaway’ & ‘The Southern Raiders’) sadly she more often than not gets her way with this & we never really see her get called out on this more than a once off. And yeah, the fact that she ties her bending so closely to her identity (& to others with the gift) means she wouldn’t relate very much to Bumi at all. She’s a well written character but not someone I’d like as a person.
@@sparxstreak02 It's interesting though. Water is presented as the element of change, but at first glance the people of the Water Tribes are stark traditionalists. In the Northern Tribe, women could only use their Waterbending to heal, Sokka believed that a girl's place was cooking and sewing and then you have the idealistic Katara who's steadfast in her beliefs. If you think about it, Korra personifies change better than any Waterbending protagonist in the entire Avatar franchise.
I was on my home page for YT yesterday and all the recommended videos from my subs were 4 months to TWO YEARS old! They're not telling me anything or sending me notifications, even if I ring the bell. 😡 And most of what they were recommending for me was beauty guru drama stuff when I don't follow or watch any of those people!
hey, im writing this on a random video. I was with a dude 3 hours away from me by train. i was with him. slept with him, and he seemed so chill and bought me expensive food and drinks. we had a good time. but now he has blocked me form everything. Not sad, just confused
I'd say growing up in a culture where you get raised communally instead of by your parents also was part of it. He never knew his parents or how to be a parent because he never saw it in action. All of his friends were pretty self sufficient as kids as well, either because their parents left or died, or they left their parents to travel with him.
It definitely can't be easy to have your core memories be from that type of environment and then switch gears to being a family man (who also has to save the world non-stop!). But I'd hope that Katara's family unit would have given Aang some kind of example.
Sadly, Good people can still be bad parents. Its something that happens alot. Some Parents can turn it around if they have a chance. Which is a wonderful thing. Though a lot of people either dont take it or get the chance at all. Aang sadly falls into this trap.
I think it would have been different too if Aang were a random person, but being the Avatar who was rarely ever home anyways... that doesn't leave much time to build good parent/child relationships.
Well, hear me out on what I have to say in the video, because I don't think it really is OOC when you think about Aang's position at that point in his life. 💕 Adulting is hard, even when you're the Avatar.
i think that it’s actually really understandable why aang ended up like he did. he was the literal last airbender and he wanted to pass on his power and culture. i think there are ways his story could be improved though. 1, they could have shown his sadness a little more in the first series or at least shown him to be a little more wanting to try and bring it back through his descendants. 2, i think him focussing more on tenzin was more in character but what was most out of character was the fact that he neglected the other kids. for example, when he took tenzin on holidays i feel like yes he would have maybe spent more time with tenzin but he definitely would have brought kya and bumi too
I love your vids an think it’s interesting about Aang’s characterization keep it up I love Avatar and didn’t know you where a fan I love it I think Aang was just doing what he thinks was right to keep his culture safe with Tenzin Also It reminds me of a person I knew his parents loved all their children but the oldest and the youngest boy got more attention due to them being athletic the while the middle boy wasn’t athletic like his brothers so his father wasn’t as interested in him as much he love him but he didn’t like sports so it kinda ruined a bit he tried for a few years vying for his father’s attention by doing some sports but it didn’t work he kinda has a bit of a rough relationship with his father they love each other but they have trouble opening up to each other
That makes sense too. Tenzin had the most in common with Aang, so they could most easily bond and Tenzin would need Aang more than the other two. It would just be nice if he gave a little more to his other kids - Aang was originally a better water bender than Katara, so it’s not like he couldn’t have bonded with Kya through bending lessons too. But I’m sure it’s hard when the weight of the world is on your shoulders.
I mean Aang never experienced being raise and love my parents and katara lost her mother so that why Aang isn’t a good father but it’s not ozai level and I feel bad the most it’s Bumi literally he didn’t have a bending kya with katara and Tenzin with aaang i always imagine Uncle Sokka and Bumi must have a good funny uncle and nephew relationship like Zuko and Iroh
I think people are too attached to the word "husband." She could still have a wife, so it's the same type of relationship. Even saying "I have... somebody..." to keep 2013 Nickelodeon happy would have worked. But Kya is pretty solo.
Raditz, Frieza and the androids screwed things up for Goku. That being said when Goku was able to help be a parent he definitely took the time to do so it just was so few and far between.
Mecha Zord well what about all the times he just screwed off and died, over and over again, and the fact that when everything was peaceful and there was no big bad in the universe to fight anymore, his family had grown and he even had a grandkid he just...flew off to train some random kid. Like 🤦♀️ ChiChi has to be pissed
I never saw every single episode of DBZ, but I remember that Goku always felt like a very present dad when he was able to be around. Although, if I recall right, Chichi was the one who got those kids to super saiyan status while papa was gone! 😂 Go mama go!
@@lillola9307 Goku only dies twice manga wise. One from Raditz since they didn't know any other way to beat him and the other from Cell since Goku was dumb to let Gohan fight, Cell also said touch me and l explode so maybe time wasn't on Goku's side, and Gohan and Vegeta didn't finish Cell off when they had the chance. He did also say that he was afraid of coming back because he brought the enemies to earth and was sort of correct since Raditz came looking for him and destroying the red ribbon army led Girou to make Cell. And as l said his parenting moments are few and far between plus, Goku came back in spirit form but he only had a day and that got screwed up thanks to the guy trying to revive Buu.
I don't know why people think aang is better than korra because I think korra is better than aang because in atla aang abandoned his duty as avatar and it took him 100 years to do his duty, I love the fact that unlike aang, korra immediately rose to the occasion as the avatar and was determined to do her job and bring balance to the world, I love that korra and her temper and decisions are more realistic and relatable to many and most of all she helped bring balance many times
Aang actually abandons his duty twice - once right before he got frozen and again when he met the guru at the air temple who had waited 100 years for Aang to show up (there he ran away because he didn't want to let go of Katara to embrace the Avatar State). Korra is flawed, and she fails a lot, but she keeps getting back up and trying. Plus, Aang's 3 seasons take place over roughly 6 months, Korra ages from 17-22 over 4 seasons, and those are some of the hardest years of a persons life!
I’m not sure people thing aang is better than Korra. As far as accomplishment as an Avatar I think Korra surpasses aang. Still I do believe overall Atla is a better written show than Korra which is why it gets so much more love from the fans.
i mean he didn’t really intend to freeze himself for a century, he just ran away but i think if his flight went smoothly he’d probably understand and go back. also, korra was still treated pretty normally through childhood where aang was told early and no longer allowed to have any fun with his friends or the monks. plus he was 12 lol so there’s that
Having a golden child in your household is never a good thing. Even without all his kids being Air Benders, it was still part of their heritage, and who knows what the children's children would be? It's was very short-sighted of Aang, and I'm still surprised and disappointed in him.
@@TheFangirlWatches I so agree!! Then I wonder if deep down he thought less of Sokka, because HE wasn't a waterbender. Yet Sokka was very serious and protective of his tribe and traditions.
In your video about the Witches (which was the first video of your I ever watched), you theorised that the Grandma got turned into an animal by the Grand High Witch and she found a Good Witch to turn her back into a human. I theorise that whatever animal she got turned into, the GHW (or another witch) tried to turn either Luke’s mother or father (depending on whether the Grandma is Luke’s mum’s mum or dad’s mum) into an animal that is half that animal, half-human. So what animal do YOU think the GHW turned the Grandma into?
It'd have to be something pretty small and defenseless. Maybe another mouse or a rabbit. Something that could be easily killed by either people or other animals.
I'm waiting on one of them to arrive in the mail, but as soon as I finish reading Harry Potter I plan to go through those comics. Still though, you can be engaged to a girl and get a necklace right?
WELL AANG IS THE AVATAR AND THE AVATAR HAS TO SAVE THE WORLD! ONE PARENT HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN, AND THE OTHER ONE WHICH IS THE AVATAR HAS TO SAVE THE WORLD. Ok what would the child do if both parents weren’t taking care of them, how is Aang a bad father? If both parents left their children then the children’s would be left alone, Avatars always have to save the world it’s their job, people are not always true, even you’re not true everytime, what’s the point? They’re still alive and it’s just a cartoon and they’re still alive anyways. Idk but you should talk to the creators of the people that made LOK and ATLA
air nomad culture had airbenders not even know their parents. maybe that’s why aang didnt have a huge connection to his kids and maybe aang tried to make his relationship with tenzin like a monk to an airbender child (like him and the monks in the southern air temple)
The only thing about it I don’t like is that I hate it when they wait till the last moment to go “oh, by the way they’re lesbians!” Build that up, make it feel authentic, celebrate it (I know Nick didn’t want that, but still...), but don’t be like “well if you’re smart enough to connect the clues you’ll understand what we hinted at.” Have the guts to say it and own it if that’s who your character is.
I honestly don't understand it either. Yes, there were a few gaps, but AtLA didn't wrap everything up neatly either. I think it's just hard for people because Korra is in this more futuristic setting (compared to the original show) and it's a lot more mature so Korra's opponents are a lot more mature and legit trying to kill her, so it does feel like a very different show. But I LOVE LoK!
aang being a bad father is surprisingly realistic I mean his entire culture was wiped out and hadn’t seen an airbender for his entire lifespan if you’re entire culture is wiped out generally he would probably favor the airbender it sucks that he’s a bad father but honestly I love it
I honestly feel like Aang tried his best. He had to protect the world and having kids while doing that is hard. We know that past Avatars had kids, like Roku, but it's never mentioned if they were able to be fully there for their kids.
@@amochikaay I definitely don't think it ruined things. I love the Legend of Korra and it shows struggles that real-life people today go through. A lot of people are absentee parents or favor one child more whether they realize it or not. I know plenty of my friends who have been through something similar. I think they were trying to make characters more relatable to some people.
I think that’s part of the realism of Korra - Aang likely did try his best, but he was racing time AND having to keep the world constantly in balance. It’s a lot, and it’s easy to let things slip in those occasions. Even without being the Avatar, I remember so many times my kids wanted me to play with their toys on the floor, and I had every excuse not get down there and play with them most of the time. Now they’re too old to play and it’s just like “wait, I missed it all? I thought I had more time!”.
He kind of is, but I'm not sure that he got to full monk-hood before the war his the Air Nomads. Either way, he knew it was on his shoulders to produce the next generation of Airbenders, so he may have bent the rules for the greater good. Little air benders have to come from somewhere though, right?
People making an excuse, even Aang isn't a good parents. They are still blinded by nostalgia. They always say Aang is not perfect, but they are criticizing korra even Korra has more character development and more achievements than Aang? People are just blinded by nostalgia
I wonder if family was even understood by Aang, growing up in the air nomads and having a mentor, but not a dad and mom.
I'm sure there was some balance in there. Aang didn't really have a traditional family of his own growing up, but he saw Katara's family unit and the family he made along the way. But, did he have an example of what a good dad looks like? Definitely not! And he had such a burdensome job to beging with, he wasn't exactly set up for success there.
@@TheFangirlWatches oh... I just realized Hakoda was also a traveling father to Katara who was going around in wars. Aang was pretty much the same to his first two children, no?
Still not a reason to be unfair
@@TheFangirlWatches why would they make aang bad father
I don’t understand why Aang didn’t teach the culture and values of the air nomads to Bumi and Kya. It is their culture too and it would have strengthened all of their bonds.
On one hand its horrible that all his kids suffered because even Tenzin felt pressure to be perfect all his life, and on the other I'm glad they showed Aang's flaws as a dad to show that he's only human. I wonder how Katara tried to keep the family together despite how Aang was favoring Tenzin?
Right. I mean, he never had a real father and had to grow very quickly. It makes sense that he wouldn't be good at parenting. Not to mention the pressure of having to be the avatar his entire life while also knowing he and his youngest child are the only hope fir airbenders coming back. That's a lot for one guy to handle.
That’s the other side that I didn’t really touch on here, but when you have a golden child and scape goat dynamics as kids that doesn’t mean the golden child has a great or better life. Instead they get overloaded with all the expectations of their parents, and that takes it’s own psychological toll. It’s probably why Tenzin has always been so serious.
@Heru Jr. of Kemet Calm down dude
I mean let’s be real katara favorited kya so it’s like...
Katara might not have seen it as Aang spending so much time with Tenzin as an issue. When she met Haru, she argued that he shouldn't quit Earthbending because she saw it as a part of him, she wanted to learn from Hama because of their shared "heritage" and in the "Imbalance" comics, she emphasized how integral bending was to her cultural identity even though there are only a select amount of people with bending. Katara tends to view bending as its own separate form of culture. It's possible that she viewed Aang monopolizing so much of Tenzin's time as a means of connecting to their culture in a way only Airbenders can understand. Katara is usually blinded by her own idealism and since her ideals on bending were never challenged in "The Last Airbender", it's likely that they have remained consistent up to "The Legend of Korra".
I think Bumi is kind of like his uncle, a non-bender who also goes with the flow.
He can bend
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I'm kind of happy Aang wasn't a perfect parent because of how realistic is it. It shows us that even the "Chosen One" can be flawed despite their best efforts. I could even see Aang trying to be as present of a father he could (between Avatar stuff) for Boomie and Kaya up until Tenzen showed signs of being an airbender and then becoming lost in the intensive crash course.
Also, I too find it strange that curture seems to be divided up depending on the bender you turn out to be xD Kaya wearing Water Tribe stuff could make sense since that's where she grew up..but I have a feeling that might still have been the case if she grew up in Republic City. Boomie isn't a bender so he doesn't wear clothing distinct of any nation UNTIL becomes an airbender.
You’re right! I think Bumi wears that dark red military color like Asami (another non-bender). But I wonder if Kya always dressed like a water tribe person or if she just defaulted to that when she moved back to the South Pole to be with Katara. It’s hard to tell from the black and white photo, but it kind of looks like water tribe was her style all along, and Bumi is just wearing like nice clothing that doesn’t denote his background. I wonder if Bumi would have supported the Equalists in season 1 lol!
You're happy becoz its Aang, I bet if that was Korra a lot of criticisms from close-minded fans of ATLA (im a fan, but very open-minded)
@@fireycard9338 clearly not as open minded as you may think since you automatically assume my opinion would be different if it were Korra... I'm guessing that may be you trying to insinuate some kind of discrimination -.- Yeah ~ no.
@@TheFangirlWatches why does nickelodeon created such bad parents
@@TheFangirlWatches why would nickelodeon create such bad parent
I personally wish that Aang had talked to his children in that spirit world episode. Like, how can he only talk to Tenzin but ignore the other two? Also, they really should have showed flashbacks of how Aang and Katara were as parents but they didn't for some reason yet in last airbender they showed flashbacks of Zuko and Aang back in last Airbender
There was a sense from the beginning that this was Korra's story and the old Gaang didn't matter as much now, but after season 1 they gave Aang's family more space in the series, yet they still kept the view of Aang one-sided from his kids - Katara never tells stories or pulls out old notes or anything. But the Spirit World thing was not actually Aang, it was Tenzin being confronted by his nightmare of disappointing his father. Still though, I imagine Bumi and Kya were seeing their dad too, and it would have been nice to see that (even though I think Tenzin was the only person who worked through his issues, which briefly cleared the fog).
I feel like the flashbacks between Aang, Katara, and their kids wouldn't have been needed and just take up screen time. They were written well enough that we were able to see their entire childhood from their present selves.
Wouldn’t Kya and Bumi not being that spiritual also have an impact on seeing spirits?
Because that wasn’t aang spirit
This kind of reminds me of when I was a child in kindergarten; a girl came to our class halfway through the year but, she didn't speak English and had to take ESL classes. I found out years later that even though the girl was born and raised in America her parents didn't teach her English and kept her at home alot, because they were afraid she wouldn't learn their culture properly. They were so focused ,other essential skills for her were neglected.
Oh that sounds rough! They actually threw one of my kids in the ESL program for a bit because he was too shy to talk so they thought he didn't understand English. It's not a bad program, but there is so much focus on trying to learn everything in 2 languages that the kids end up behind their peers academically, and the older they get the harder it can be to transition to the English-only classrooms. :(
I thought Kya’s character was more interested in girls? Therefore she would have an estranged female fiancé if she was ever engaged. Please correct me if I’m wrong.
You’re right. Kya is gay and it’s confirmed in the comics.
They actually don't cover much of Kya at all, so if she has a preference in the ladies it's in the comics somewhere.
Kya is confirmed as a lesbian in the comics.
@Riss Bliss they're actually written by the same two men who wrote ATLA and Korra so like..... yes they're cannon. Idk who tf you think wrote them.
Ashley Porter errrr
Thank god someone else thinks the same way I do. That people believe Kya and Bumi are servants since apparently Aang never mentioned the other children. Then Bumi and Kya made it clear that "dad took trips with Tenzin" and I get that Tenzin was the other last Airbender, but still there was no excuse for the neglect of the others. When Bumi developed latent powers, I was so hoping he would have gone to Aang's grave and yelled at it, calling him out on the neglect. i always hoped that Bumi's powers would have been stronger than Tenzin's to just ram it home what a crappy parent Aang was
the fact that Bumi with no powers achieved great prowess and promotion, and he did it all by himself. that's more impressive.Aang may have loved his children, but as a parent, he wasn't great
There was one point where Bumi talks about doing his best to save the world and that he tried his best to make you (dad) proud. I feel like poor Bumi and Kya never get to have that heartfelt chat with their father or mother to help them feel better, and I would have loved to see that. BUT, it's also important to show that some people are never going to give you what you need to feel better, because that's how real life works. People hurt you and they don't even realize it.
Wow.
@@TheFangirlWatches true but as you said, Aang didn't just neglect his other children, he denied them their own heritage. Kya being a water bender, was more like Katara, while Bumi never got a look in. it was as if he put his own children into categories.
Tenzin, you're with me, Kya, be with your mother and Bumi, well your no use to me, just go hang out with Sokka, being non-benders you've got more in common. the fact is that Bumi could have become a non-bending acolyte or studied the religion of the airbenders or come to understand his place better in the world, but LOK makes Aang come across as a crappy parent.
Wow that was amazing & seems right & very sad. I made it to the end!😁
It's too bad that Aang wasn't alive to see Bumi gain air bending. He would've been so proud!
I know! It’s almost painful to see how fulfilled yet hurt Bumi seems about it. The very thing that could have changed and validated his whole life showed up too late to get the recognition he wanted from Aang. T_T
I always thought Bumi also had a weird form of spirit bending with his “luck”... the spirits do seem to love him
If he really wanted to expand the air nation they should have been popping out babies like crazy. Why would you stop with just ONE airbender???
They should have had like 20 babies if that was their main goal. What are the odds they'd only have 1 airbender out of 20 babies???
Well that's why I think Aang and Katara lived apart once the kids started coming. You can't get your wife pregnant if you're on the other side of the world, after all. But the fact that they kept having kids quite a few years apart seems to suggest that Aang was waiting for bending powers to manifest before they moved on to the next child. I'd say by the time Tenzin arrived, Aang and Katara's relationship was pretty strained and there may have been a health reason that they went 1 and done with the airbenders.
I haven’t seen any of your videos in such a long time and I am so happy, I came back!
Hey, welcome back! I'm glad you found something you want to watch again!
It's really tough to realize that people who you thought were good and perfect (like a lot of protagonists in media are pertraid as) aren't that perfect at the end. But I think that makes AtlA and LoK more believable and definitely likeable. Back then everybody loved Aang and Toph in the original, but with the second series and the stories about their "questionable" ways of raising their children it was clear that they are normal people with their strengths and flaws after all. I'm not saying that they are terrible people ( I think they're far from that even though they'll never be as good as Iroh) and having favourites as a parent isn't something unusual. Both my parents were the youngest of 4/6 children and it wasn't difficult for them to find out that their parents had their favourites of their own.
"They'll never be as good as Iroh" - that's some serious true talk right there! Can we just love on Iroh for a minute? Because he was all set and ready to take on the Fire Nation throne, but then his son died and that ambition didn't matter any more. He lost at Ba Sing Se because his heart stopped caring about the mission once he couldn't have the only thing that really meant something to him - his son. But, instead of wallowing for the rest of his life over his loss, he instead devoted himself to making other people know they mattered. I'm not sure if anyone could ever live up to that amazing kind of humanity.
@@TheFangirlWatches Yeah what a heartbreaking story that is. I'll never forget his story in Tales of Ba Sing Se and Leaves from the vine. And then the way he cares for Zuko as if he was his own, always trying to support him, guiding him on the right way and never being angry at him when he makes a wrong choice (ok the comment about all tea being simply hot leaf juice was kinda rough for Iroh but besides that 20/10)
It must be hard to parent a kid when your the avatar and the last airbender try to say you culture but feel bad for bumi and his sister
Maybe Aang didn't know how to be a parent, he never mentioned his and we see all the kids being raised by the older monks/nuns. Their nomadic free spirit non judgemental lifestyle made them prone to favor "chosen" family than "blood" family; In Kyoshi's backstory novel there's a nomad that acts as a parental figure but also there is an air nomad that leaves it's child.
I like the burden of air nomads legacy thing you brought up...
Do you think that Tenzin broke up with Lin (or in any case got interested in Pema) so that his children would be air benders? Like "air benders genes" are dominant over "non-benders genes" but might cancel out with other type of "benders genes". They also had more children in a shorter period than Aang&Katara
lol funny enough I already wrote a script on why Tenzin and Lin broke up, and you're pretty on target for what I said! As far as I can tell, Tenzin has no romantic feelings for Pema, she's just a broodmare for his father's legacy.
@@TheFangirlWatches I can only hope that after the harmonic convergence and the resurgence or the air benders, their relationship developed in a healthy way. They didn't seem to be in a toxic one (if Tenzin wanted to have as many children he could had a harem of air acolytes) but as you said it didn't struck me as madly in love either...
Poor Pema, I remember having random anxiety over something going wrong during my pregnancy, can't imagine what would be like when it's expected of you to pop lots of healthy babies.
I'm sure I'm missing details so i can't wait for your next video 😁👍 honestly you deserve more subscribers! ✨💕
@@TheFangirlWatches Pema was literally fed up of having air benders.... She wanted a non bender kid
Still not a reason!!!
No. He wanted kids and she didn’t.
Besides there’s no one else who would have the “Airbender gene” but him and his family (which is 🤢 🤮) so no matter what he’d have to rely on luck
I find Aang being a not so great father is very interesting and valuable to the series. It shows how imperfect people really are.
Last Airbender is aimed at
Kids. As younglings we see the word a certain way? Think we know everything, etc. And when you get older, you realize you don’t know anything. And you’re not perfect
Aang was like a 1950s dad who is a traveling salesman. Dad just isn't there. And when he is? Time is short. And when it came to having three kids, the one who had the traits more like dad got more quality time compared to the rest.
People treat this as a “Aang would never be a bad father. And Katara would never have let him be a bad father”. I find problems with that theory. I'm sure Katara and Aang knew what they were getting themselves into. He's the Avatar. He's not going to be a father who is around all the time. I mean, how long did it take to create Republic City? Aang just wasn't around. So Katara probably resorted to her old water tribe survival tendencies and what she knew -- which was be an over attentive mother. When we see someone taken care of, we assume they’re fine. “They have Katara, she will make sure they don’t feel alone or isolated”. And as children, you’re not going to go after your parents and condemn them-especially when dad is the avatar and has enough pressure on his shoulders. They probable were exposed to a lot of fights and pressure they decided to not be confrontational about it. So the problem doesn’t get addressed.
And Katara understood the importance of "culture". She's a southern water bender, she is the last water bender of her tribe. So she probably understood that Tenzin needed to learn what Aang knew of his culture, and she used the same mentality with Kya.
And even if Katara didn't relate to Aang in regards to culture and disagreed with how he was treating his kids, so what? As Avatar Yang Chen said "Your duty is to the world". He chose to have a family. That's fine. He chose to have kids. That's also fine. But his primary responsibility is to be the Avatar. Remember Avatar Korruk during the flashbacks? The "go with the flow" one that died in this thirties and wasn't attentive to the world issues and only cared about himself? Aang wasn't going to do that. He had a responsibility. It sucks. But it is very true to how many families end up.
I wouldn’t say it’s willful neglect. It's neglect as a byproduct of status and incidental pressure. Aang had a job to do. Be the Avatar.
He was not a 9 am - 5 pm Avatar with benefits and a pension, with vacation and holidays that would have allowed him to be home often.
And they didn’t have therapy or the Dr. Phil shoe back then 😜
You got avatar Korruk all wrong, he didn’t just care about himself, the reason he died so young was because he was fixing Avatar YangChen’s screw-up. She paid no attention to the spirits and the spirit side of the avatar was 👎 so he wasted his life force fixing the spirit world and reconnecting to all the spirits.
@@tylermakesvideos5972 Yes, but per his affirmation of his own personality and character to Aang prior to the Kioshi books, that's how he described himself - even if it was protecting YangChen and lying. That's what I was going off of.
Perfect succinct and totally on point comment. Complex and interesting characters have negative traits
Well grownig up none of the air nomads had "parents" aang probably didnt know how to be a dad since he didnt have one himself. Then when he had tenzin he probably felt he had to raise him the same way monk iatso raised him.
(I probably spelt names wrong, sorry)
I LOVE this! As usual, you brought up _great_ points that I hadn't even considered! I always assumed that Katara went to back to the Southern Water Tribe in her old age (due to the comment Kya made when she was arguing with Tenzin and Bumi. She seemed to express resentment towards them, saying that SHE was the only one to "support mom" and come with her when she moved back to the South pole. And Tenzin protested, saying that he had the Air Nation to lead, etc) but like you point out, they do seem to refer to the South Pole as "home". This is why I love your videos. You really dive deep into these characters.
And in regards to Aang dying, you bring up a good point; I just assumed Katara got tired if being pregnant, or Aang was just "too busy" but it does make more sense that Aang simply felt his body weakening.
And sadly, the Legacy book you read at the end seems to indicate that it wasn't just Aang who favored Tenzin. It sounds like Katara might have done so as well. I guess it's possible that MAYBE they also wrote similar books for Bumi and Kya, but...yeah I doubt it. It's disappointing that Katara, as "motherly" as she was always considered, would make such a mistake. It makes me think of Bumi, after the Harmonic Convergence, when he gained air bending. After he reveals his powers to the family at dinner, he says something like, "wait till I tell mom.. she's gonna be so proud" (or something similar) despite him being a military legend and considered a hero, he equates gaining air bending abilities to making her "proud". This really makes me sad. It's also worth mentioning that the water scroll was included in this book to TENZIN. Like, WHY?? Why wasn't it given to Kya?
I realize it could just be a publishing thing that they included as a "gift" to the purchaser, but it just seems strange that this water scroll would be given to Tenzin in particular. Katara was the last Bender of the Southern Water Tribe specifically (at the time, anyway) so it seems strange she wouldn't give it to Kya. Obviously Korra's father was a water bender, so I'm guessing more water benders were eventually born to the tribe (unless they were Northern Water Nation transplants) I'm just really disappointed in these parents.
Usagi and Mamoru (Usagi in particular) was so busy ruling and protecting the Earth that they pretty much ignored Chibi Usa.. tho it explains why Princess Serenity was so obsessed with Endymion if her mother was anything like she herself turned out to be. And Goku was an _AWFUL_ father only interested in training, fighting, and eating, etc. Naruto sucked as well, which was strange considering he himself remembered what it felt like to be abandoned and ignored. And don't get me started on Ariel and Simba... it's truly alarming how neglectful these characters end up becoming when they themselves become parents.
It's not that out of character as you might think for Katara to pay more attention to her bending children than her non-bending child. In "The Last Airbender", she idealizes bending as its own separate culture. She argued that Haru should continue Earthbending because it was a part of who he was, she wanted to learn from Hama because of their shared "heritage", and emphasized how integral bending was to her culture "Imbalance" comics. I've never seen her views on the subject challenged in the series, so we can only assume that it hasn't changed all that much in "The Legend of Korra". She was likely more attentive towards her bending children because it was her equivalent of cultural pride, she probably wasn't aware about the repercussions it would have on Bumi, she may have even encouraged Aang to spend more time with Tenzin because she thought that they could connect to their culture in a way only Airbenders can understand.
She was also the only Waterbender in her tribe for the longest time and that may not be the case now, the South Pole was a predominantly non-bender nation before she was born. Even with the support from their sister tribe, it likely took time for Waterbenders to repopulate the region, which is why she was also keen on passing her teachings onto her Waterbending daughter. Since there were likely more non-benders than benders in the South Pole during her marriage, Katara might have assumed that Bumi would not be lacking in companionship surrounded by his fellow non-benders, leaving her more free time with her bending children.
I'm not saying that Katara was a bad mother, but she is easily blinded by her idealism. To her bending is a different culture entirely, but, unlike most cultures, this one is not defined by one's genealogical roots, it is defined by pure circumstance...circumstances that Bumi wasn't born with.
He just chose to focus a majority of his energy into bringing back the air nation. He clearly showed potential to be a great dad; he just chose to put his focus into other goals. If he hadn't had a kid that was born with the ability to airbend, he would've given them all equal attention. But alas, his goal of revitalizing the air nation took priority in his mind over his children. Even when it came to Tenzin, Aang saw him as more of a tool to further his agenda.
This plot just doesn't work for me. If he did start showing favoritism, Katara would talk to him about it. He also has a relgious order of non benders, who were strangers, who he teaches nomad culture to. It's nonsensical to think he wouldn't teach his other two kids. Bending is not the only aspect of culture .This isn't "realistic human flaws" it's forced drama that doesn't flow from previously established characterization. Aang was always flawed, but this kind of flawed renders him utterly unlikable, and kind of renders the previous show meaningless. He didn't learn anything. And apparently his wife and best friend (Zuko, who's life was destroyed by favoritism) didn't say anything. That's why I loathe this new trend of "hero grows up to be a crappy parent" stories.
finally someone who makes sense, the writers did the drama on purpose... which does not agree with Aang personality, he was considerate and empathetic with everyone and then the writers tell us that he did not realize how his kids where feeling. Everyone can justify however it wants, but it just doesn't fit with who Aang truly was, he could teach air nomads to a bunch of strangers in the temples but not his children come on...... even as a family they did not have vacations, come on even fire lord ozai had vacations with family even though he was evil. This is just bad writing nothing else....And as you say he could have some many other flaws but being a neglectful parent does make sense at all.
i disagree, i think he was a good dad, yeah, he spent more time with his son tenzin but it was for a reason, its not like he just hated the others and liked tenzin, he was a airbender and he wanted him to grow up in his legacy, he did the same with the others, he didnt spend AS much time with them, but he still did, AND he is still the last airbender, keep that thought, so if he is the last airbender it actully is his duty to train his son, who ALSO is a airbender, so they can build up the air nation again, becuase remeber he was the last air bender becuase fire lord sozin killed them all
Not be an abusive parent or being a busy parent doesn't mean your a good/the best parent.
He was a good dad to 1 kid. He could have taken the other children along and teach his culture to ALL of his kids. That's their heritage too.
It's like only teaching your culture to your darkest mixed child as a black parent in an interracial relationship.
You're kinda a bad parent because of what you CAN give your kids, your focusing on just one. Not necessarily abusive, but not good.
that doesnt mean he was a good father. what youre saying is that he was a bad father, but he had a reason to be. lmao
He’s a terrible dad
By the way, I noticed that the authors well distributed the temperaments of parents to their children:
Bumi is Sokka and Aang
Kaya is Sokka and Katara
Tenzin is Aang and Katara
Well, Aang never learned how to be inna family beside the "Gaang" but it was a brotherhood, he did the best he could, he tried to be a mentor to Tenzin like Monk Gyatso was for him. We can't blame him since he never experienced bring raised by parents and he didn't know how to be a father. I understand it wasn't okay for him to favourite one of his children but it wasn't his fault.
I always thought Bumi was the youngest smh
He acts like the youngest because he got the attention of a neglected middle or youngest child.
I was upset when I found out that Zuko and Katara were supposed to be together instead of Aang and Katara.
I haven't heard this, but I wouldn't have been opposed to it in AtLA.
@@TheFangirlWatches i know right then they scrapped the idea even though both VA were on board with the idea and it kinda sad that they portray aang as a horrible father and Sokka never had any kids and what about suki?
If Katara and Zuko ended up, who will be the great parent Kya and Bumi have to rely on their childhood?
@@loonajinsoul6161 considering Izumi was the best adjusted of all the next generation and had a great relationship with him, Zuko?
Aang is my favorite character in the franchise. Nothing a gonna change my mind on that. But seeing him focus on the one thing that could revive his nation so much while neglecting the rest of his family(and I’m fairly sure it wasn’t intentional)and seeing them fall apart due to the Firelord killing all the airbenders expect for him is just heartbreaking.
Actually Kya was more interested by girls. This thing wasn't clear in the show but in the comics she confess to Korra and Asami. So maybe she was engaged whit a woman!
5:17 He couldn't... write any of that stuff down? Or have someone write it for him if he can't read and right?
I feel like there's a lost episode somewhere that has Katara pulling out all these notes and pictures for her kids to settle the "dad didn't love us as much" debate. But, alas, we never got it. T_T
Reading a book is very different from someone teaching you first hand. And who is to say he didn't write down anything??
5:50 I thought in the Legend of Korra comics, Kya told Asami and Korra that she was a lesbian.
I haven’t read them yet, but apparently the comics do go that route - so maybe Kya took off on her lady fiancé.
I think overall avatars are just not meant to be parents, they constantly are out saving the world so they don’t have time for their kids at all and if the kids are benders then the avatar has to put pressure to make sure they teach their kids the way of bending before it’s too late. Aang was the same way but had a burden as at the time, the last airbender.
Aang was 66 when he passed away I think.
Katara is 2 years older than Aang.
Aang died at the age of 66.
Korra was born the EXACT INSTANT Aang died.
Katara was 85, Tenzin was 51 and Korra was 17 when "The Legend of Korra" began.
Meaning Aang was 32 and Katara was 34 when they had Tenzin.
Which means even if Tenzin was not a airbender, they still had enough time to have at least one more child.
Also, I THINK Bumi is 8 years older then Tenzin, while Kya is only 3 years older then Tenzin. (I could be wrong.)
If that's true, then that would mean:
Aang would be 24 and Katara would be 26 when they had Bumi.
Aang would be 29 and Katara would be 31 when they had Kya.
Again, I MIGHT be wrong about Bumi and Kya's ages.🤷♂
I think it's a good thing that bumi is a non bender if he was a air bender his dad would let him go on the trips and his sister would get lonely it would be just his mother and sister at home.
i bet Bumi was close with his uncle Sakka both being non-benders and both kind of goof balls
I think you made good points.
Thank you for this video.
I hope you are well.☺
Thank you too for coming to watch! Are you excited for Korra's arrival to Netflix?
aang was old , like over 100 years old. he was not a bad dad he was the avatar and also was raised by monks. technically spirit bending could have unlocked his first son bending but yeah he was not too much a foward thinker in that way.
This is actually a very good explanation to the whole thing.
I'm glad you approve! 😀
I think Aang and Katara's family lived in the suburbs in the Water Tribe as Bumi and Kya refer to it as home instead of living in Republic City as it was Aang and Sokka's workplace literally
Bumi and Kya are so underrated 💝
They are! And Bumi gets airbending and can't even share his excitement with his dad, he has to settle for his crotchety brother who approves of NOTHING! 😂
@@TheFangirlWatches yeah, and we barely see him and Kya after that and we don't really know if they came to terms with their past and heritage. Cause like in the Legacy book, neither Katara nor Aang recognize them as part of the Air Nation and that still drives me crazy😑 not even Sokka and Toph acknowledged their Air Nomad heritage
This is wonderful!! Much thanks and safety to ya!!
Thank you Dahlia! I love your name btw. And I hope you're staying safe where you are too!
@@TheFangirlWatches Thank you!! That's so sweet! And I'm most certainly trying, binging ATLA And Korra again is probably the safest thing to do right now xD
Even if you take this as 100% bad it doesn’t make aang a HORRIBLE father just one with flaws
Come on, give Aang a break. He had it rough as well, the stress of having to carry on the Air Nomads culture would probably weigh super heavily on him.
I mean, did you watch the video yet? Because that's not too far off from what I said. 😂
@@TheFangirlWatches Well right, but the title is Aang is a horrible father, and you blame Aang for not being there for his kids. He probably gave them as much love as he could. I didn't see it as him not being there for them, but that the situation itself was not ideal. He had a huge hand in building the new world, and I think his kids understood that too. like for example, Bumi could have put the pressure of not being a bender on himself, but grew some sort of resentment because he viewed himself as not good enough to his dad. Idk, that's what i took away from it, you did sorta touch on that, i just think ultimately i can sympathize entirely with what Aang went through.
This almost reminds me of a argument that Naruto was a bad father to Boruto cause he is the Hokage and is constantly watching out for the village
@@TheFangirlWatches before I was expecting for this video have a ton of hate
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I hope you are pleased with the content today Cloudy 😀
@@TheFangirlWatches Very! :)
This was the most elaborate headcanon I've ever heard of.
you have great vids
omg thank you so much! And thank you for coming to watch so quickly!
One thing that really bothers me about Aang being a horrible father is that it messes up Katara's character.
I don't think Katara was the kind of character that would just let Aang neglect his children without handing him his rear about it. I am not sure that Katara would ever have excused Aang's behavior as "Well yeah but.. he is the Avatar after all and um.. he needs to preserve his airbenders." No way would Katara let Aang get away with that kind of neglect. She wasn't the submissive type that would have allowed it to go on for so long that Bumi and Kya had a resentment for their father even into their older ages.
The fact that Tenzin was talking about how amazing his vacations with Aang were (which weren't about air nomad culture) and the fact Aang never once thought to take Bumi or Kya with him on those vacations speaks volumes.... it would speak even worse of Katara if she had just sat back and let that happen.
Katara just seems the type that would have given Aang an ultimatum, to actually be a father in their children's lives, or risk losing her. Because if Katara just stood and let it happen, never once getting on Aang for his lack of fatherhood then it would reflect poorly on her character as well.
So Aang being a bad father doesn't just work in terms of a perception of Aang, but of Katara as well. As I can't imagine Katara just letting that slide for as long as it did, all the way till Aang's passing.
Hes not a perfect father but he definitely isnt a bad father at least compared to mine.
Kya was revealed to be gay. So her falling in love with a man is already out of the question.
II think everyone took Aang not taking Bumi and Kya on vacation as him neglecting them. And Bumi and Kya saying they never felt like part of the air nation. So Aang never taught them about it and excluded them, right? Wrong. Go back to season three, episode 7, Original Airbenders, at three minutes in, Kya says that she can never remember all the airbender gurus names because there were quote "Like a million of them." but she never would have said that if she was never taught about them.
Which means Aang did teach Bumi and Kya about airbender history, it just probably didn't stick, because they weren't airbenders. But it DID stick with Tenzin because he WAS an airbender.
It had been 30 to 40 years since their childhood, so things probably got mixed up and forgotten. Maybe Bumi and Kya interpreted something Aang did as neglect-full as kids cause they were jealous of Tenzin's bond with Aang and then stuck with it their whole life.
And part of me understands taking Tenzin on vacations alone, as he was the only airbender, but if I'm right about Bumi and Kya just not caring about airbender history then I understand him not bothering to take them.
I still don't like the amount of pressure Aang put on Tenzin, and I wish he took Bumi and Kya vacations. But I used to think he was a bad dad but now I just think he had his faults like every other parent
psst Kyas Gay. Post series comics. Yep I'm a nerd lol
Oh, hmmm, well, lol, guess I haven't gotten to that part yet! 😂
@@TheFangirlWatches she does say she keeps it private lol Kya kind of recognises whats going on with Korra and Asami and goes to talk with them. Apparently the Southern water tribe are really conservative when it comes to sexuality. You ask me the writers are just giving an in universe explanation for nickelodeon not allowing LGBT+ representation at that time lol
Kaya or I don’t know how to spell her name is gay she mentions it on the comics
lol I think half the comments are “hey, Kya’s a lesbian.” They don’t even HINT at it in the show, but I’ll be excited to read more about her in the comics then!
I didn't know that aang neglected his other 2 kids, i feel awful for his other 2 kids
I’m sure Aang loved them all, but he definitely didn’t make time for them all. T_T
@@TheFangirlWatches i totally agree, he should have spent more time with them. I know he wanted his other 2 kids to be happy and live their lives but its the resentment they felt that i feel sorry for
Aang being a bad father may not be a surprise but why bag him knowing he had practically no choice but to favor Tenzin why aren't people saying Katara is a bad adult or mom she should have never outlawed bloodbending being by the time she married or bumi is born she's the only person alive knowing bloodbending's existence should have kept it to her self and trusted others with the info training with it on criminals or taught Kya it as a last standing offense in case of absolute emergency. Then Yakone and his sons would never be as dangerous as they are.
I'm new to your channel, and I love these theories!
Aang just had a lot of pressure to continue being the avatar, have air bending children, and all the pressure. I can see how and why aang would have a hard time being there for his kids. I don’t know why people think aang is out of character for not being there for his kids. All great points and a great video!
In the comics it was revealed that Kya is a lesbian 🏳️🌈👭
Do you think Toph was a bad mother?
Oh, don't worry, I've got a whole video ready to talk about Toph soon too! I just want to give people some time to get through the series before I get to that one!
Um YES is that even a question 😪
I’m surprised Katara didn’t object 2 Aang’s favouritism 🤨 I thought she was all about showing love 2 EVERY1?
I wish they’d told their mum in season 2 about how neglected she & Aang had made them feel & maybe she’d realise her mistakes & APOLOGISE!
It's not that out of character as you might think for Katara to pay more attention to her bending children than her non-bending child. In "The Last Airbender", she idealizes bending as its own separate culture. She argued that Haru should continue Earthbending because it was a part of who he was, she wanted to learn from Hama because of their shared "heritage", and emphasized how integral bending was to her culture "Imbalance" comics. I've never seen her views on the subject challenged in the series, so we can only assume that it hasn't changed all that much in "The Legend of Korra". She was likely more attentive towards her bending children because it was her equivalent of cultural pride, she probably wasn't aware about the repercussions it would have on Bumi, she may have even encouraged Aang to spend more time with Tenzin because she thought that they could connect to their culture in a way only Airbenders can understand.
She was also the only Waterbender in her tribe for the longest time and that may not be the case now, the South Pole was a predominantly non-bender nation before she was born. Even with the support from their sister tribe, it likely took time for Waterbenders to repopulate the region, which is why she was also keen on passing her teachings onto her Waterbending daughter. Since there were likely more non-benders than benders in the South Pole during her marriage, Katara might have assumed that Bumi would not be lacking in companionship surrounded by his fellow non-benders, leaving her more free time with her bending children.
I'm not saying that Katara was a bad mother, but she is easily blinded by her idealism. To her bending is a different culture entirely, but, unlike most cultures, this one is not defined by one's genealogical roots, it is defined by pure circumstance...circumstances that Bumi wasn't born with.
Yeah lot of good points there. Truth be told, I don’t actually like Katara largely due to her righteous views with her ethics & idealism as she tends to act like her idea of doing things is the only ‘right way’ to do it (heavily seen in the eps ‘Imprisoned’, ‘The Painted Lady’, ‘The Runaway’ & ‘The Southern Raiders’) sadly she more often than not gets her way with this & we never really see her get called out on this more than a once off.
And yeah, the fact that she ties her bending so closely to her identity (& to others with the gift) means she wouldn’t relate very much to Bumi at all.
She’s a well written character but not someone I’d like as a person.
@@sparxstreak02 It's interesting though. Water is presented as the element of change, but at first glance the people of the Water Tribes are stark traditionalists. In the Northern Tribe, women could only use their Waterbending to heal, Sokka believed that a girl's place was cooking and sewing and then you have the idealistic Katara who's steadfast in her beliefs. If you think about it, Korra personifies change better than any Waterbending protagonist in the entire Avatar franchise.
If culture and bending was such a big deal for Aang, then maybe polygamy should’ve been an option.
Aang had a hard enough time getting just Katara! 😂
i feel like if aang was a bad dad katara would fuckin beat his ass cause of how protective/caring she is
I found this on my home page and not in my notification box... what's going on YT? That's messed up I've missed this channel
I was on my home page for YT yesterday and all the recommended videos from my subs were 4 months to TWO YEARS old! They're not telling me anything or sending me notifications, even if I ring the bell. 😡 And most of what they were recommending for me was beauty guru drama stuff when I don't follow or watch any of those people!
hey, im writing this on a random video. I was with a dude 3 hours away from me by train. i was with him. slept with him, and he seemed so chill and bought me expensive food and drinks. we had a good time. but now he has blocked me form everything. Not sad, just confused
Girl ripping up these characters like a bio lab. LOVE IT
I'd say growing up in a culture where you get raised communally instead of by your parents also was part of it. He never knew his parents or how to be a parent because he never saw it in action. All of his friends were pretty self sufficient as kids as well, either because their parents left or died, or they left their parents to travel with him.
It definitely can't be easy to have your core memories be from that type of environment and then switch gears to being a family man (who also has to save the world non-stop!). But I'd hope that Katara's family unit would have given Aang some kind of example.
@@TheFangirlWatches Katara might not have seen her father as a good example so
Awesome video
Sadly, Good people can still be bad parents. Its something that happens alot. Some Parents can turn it around if they have a chance. Which is a wonderful thing. Though a lot of people either dont take it or get the chance at all. Aang sadly falls into this trap.
I think it would have been different too if Aang were a random person, but being the Avatar who was rarely ever home anyways... that doesn't leave much time to build good parent/child relationships.
Ugh that's one of the reasons I don't like legend of korra. It's out of character for anng to end up like that
Well, hear me out on what I have to say in the video, because I don't think it really is OOC when you think about Aang's position at that point in his life. 💕 Adulting is hard, even when you're the Avatar.
same. I want to like it but this kind of stuff poisons it for me
i think that it’s actually really understandable why aang ended up like he did. he was the literal last airbender and he wanted to pass on his power and culture. i think there are ways his story could be improved though. 1, they could have shown his sadness a little more in the first series or at least shown him to be a little more wanting to try and bring it back through his descendants. 2, i think him focussing more on tenzin was more in character but what was most out of character was the fact that he neglected the other kids. for example, when he took tenzin on holidays i feel like yes he would have maybe spent more time with tenzin but he definitely would have brought kya and bumi too
I love your vids an think it’s interesting about Aang’s characterization keep it up I love Avatar and didn’t know you where a fan I love it I think Aang was just doing what he thinks was right to keep his culture safe with Tenzin
Also It reminds me of a person I knew his parents loved all their children but the oldest and the youngest boy got more attention due to them being athletic the while the middle boy wasn’t athletic like his brothers so his father wasn’t as interested in him as much he love him but he didn’t like sports so it kinda ruined a bit he tried for a few years vying for his father’s attention by doing some sports but it didn’t work he kinda has a bit of a rough relationship with his father they love each other but they have trouble opening up to each other
That makes sense too. Tenzin had the most in common with Aang, so they could most easily bond and Tenzin would need Aang more than the other two. It would just be nice if he gave a little more to his other kids - Aang was originally a better water bender than Katara, so it’s not like he couldn’t have bonded with Kya through bending lessons too. But I’m sure it’s hard when the weight of the world is on your shoulders.
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I mean Aang never experienced being raise and love my parents and katara lost her mother so that why Aang isn’t a good father but it’s not ozai level and I feel bad the most it’s Bumi literally he didn’t have a bending kya with katara and Tenzin with aaang i always imagine Uncle Sokka and Bumi must have a good funny uncle and nephew relationship like Zuko and Iroh
Bumi grew up around his uncle so he inherited part of his personality and Kaya is a lesbian that's why she doesn't have a husband
I think people are too attached to the word "husband." She could still have a wife, so it's the same type of relationship. Even saying "I have... somebody..." to keep 2013 Nickelodeon happy would have worked. But Kya is pretty solo.
@@TheFangirlWatches in all mu life I never thought you'd answer one of my comments, thanks for making my night, I had a horrible day today
I love the way u tell a story
Ooh you should do an analysis on Goku from Dragon ball z next! It has a very similar absent father feel to it.
Raditz, Frieza and the androids screwed things up for Goku. That being said when Goku was able to help be a parent he definitely took the time to do so it just was so few and far between.
Mecha Zord well what about all the times he just screwed off and died, over and over again, and the fact that when everything was peaceful and there was no big bad in the universe to fight anymore, his family had grown and he even had a grandkid he just...flew off to train some random kid. Like 🤦♀️ ChiChi has to be pissed
I never saw every single episode of DBZ, but I remember that Goku always felt like a very present dad when he was able to be around. Although, if I recall right, Chichi was the one who got those kids to super saiyan status while papa was gone! 😂 Go mama go!
@@lillola9307 Goku only dies twice manga wise. One from Raditz since they didn't know any other way to beat him and the other from Cell since Goku was dumb to let Gohan fight, Cell also said touch me and l explode so maybe time wasn't on Goku's side, and Gohan and Vegeta didn't finish Cell off when they had the chance. He did also say that he was afraid of coming back because he brought the enemies to earth and was sort of correct since Raditz came looking for him and destroying the red ribbon army led Girou to make Cell. And as l said his parenting moments are few and far between plus, Goku came back in spirit form but he only had a day and that got screwed up thanks to the guy trying to revive Buu.
I don't know why people think aang is better than korra because I think korra is better than aang because in atla aang abandoned his duty as avatar and it took him 100 years to do his duty, I love the fact that unlike aang, korra immediately rose to the occasion as the avatar and was determined to do her job and bring balance to the world, I love that korra and her temper and decisions are more realistic and relatable to many and most of all she helped bring balance many times
Aang actually abandons his duty twice - once right before he got frozen and again when he met the guru at the air temple who had waited 100 years for Aang to show up (there he ran away because he didn't want to let go of Katara to embrace the Avatar State). Korra is flawed, and she fails a lot, but she keeps getting back up and trying. Plus, Aang's 3 seasons take place over roughly 6 months, Korra ages from 17-22 over 4 seasons, and those are some of the hardest years of a persons life!
I’m not sure people thing aang is better than Korra. As far as accomplishment as an Avatar I think Korra surpasses aang. Still I do believe overall Atla is a better written show than Korra which is why it gets so much more love from the fans.
i mean he didn’t really intend to freeze himself for a century, he just ran away but i think if his flight went smoothly he’d probably understand and go back. also, korra was still treated pretty normally through childhood where aang was told early and no longer allowed to have any fun with his friends or the monks. plus he was 12 lol so there’s that
Thank you!! I'm glad you paid attention. Some people on this app didn't think any of this through.
Having a golden child in your household is never a good thing. Even without all his kids being Air Benders, it was still part of their heritage, and who knows what the children's children would be? It's was very short-sighted of Aang, and I'm still surprised and disappointed in him.
@@TheFangirlWatches I so agree!! Then I wonder if deep down he thought less of Sokka, because HE wasn't a waterbender. Yet Sokka was very serious and protective of his tribe and traditions.
In your video about the Witches (which was the first video of your I ever watched), you theorised that the Grandma got turned into an animal by the Grand High Witch and she found a Good Witch to turn her back into a human. I theorise that whatever animal she got turned into, the GHW (or another witch) tried to turn either Luke’s mother or father (depending on whether the Grandma is Luke’s mum’s mum or dad’s mum) into an animal that is half that animal, half-human. So what animal do YOU think the GHW turned the Grandma into?
It'd have to be something pretty small and defenseless. Maybe another mouse or a rabbit. Something that could be easily killed by either people or other animals.
He was about 65.
According the offical information Tenzin was 52 in season 1 so bumi was in his 60's.
I doubt that Kya was engaged to a man , In the Legend of Korra comics I think it was reviled that Kya was a lesbian, although I'm not exactly sure.
Yea I saw that somewhere...
I'm waiting on one of them to arrive in the mail, but as soon as I finish reading Harry Potter I plan to go through those comics. Still though, you can be engaged to a girl and get a necklace right?
Yeah, Kya was revealed to be lesbian in the korra comics.
WELL AANG IS THE AVATAR AND THE AVATAR HAS TO SAVE THE WORLD! ONE PARENT HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE CHILDREN, AND THE OTHER ONE WHICH IS THE AVATAR HAS TO SAVE THE WORLD. Ok what would the child do if both parents weren’t taking care of them, how is Aang a bad father? If both parents left their children then the children’s would be left alone, Avatars always have to save the world it’s their job, people are not always true, even you’re not true everytime, what’s the point? They’re still alive and it’s just a cartoon and they’re still alive anyways.
Idk but you should talk to the creators of the people that made LOK and ATLA
Eating was frozen in an iceberg you say for how long
I would guess bumi was around 12 in that picture.
air nomad culture had airbenders not even know their parents. maybe that’s why aang didnt have a huge connection to his kids and maybe aang tried to make his relationship with tenzin like a monk to an airbender child (like him and the monks in the southern air temple)
Kya is actually lesbian so I can only imagine she had someone but she passed away or something else happened
You can be good soldier but not good parent, the same way you can be good parent and horrible soldier
No excuses he is a terrible father.
It’s possible that Aang and/or Katara might have had fertility issues.
This really is a great theory. I’d like to hear your opinion on Korra & Asami later
The only thing about it I don’t like is that I hate it when they wait till the last moment to go “oh, by the way they’re lesbians!” Build that up, make it feel authentic, celebrate it (I know Nick didn’t want that, but still...), but don’t be like “well if you’re smart enough to connect the clues you’ll understand what we hinted at.” Have the guts to say it and own it if that’s who your character is.
Kya was a lesbian. Just saying. And if I remember correctly. She took the water tribe custom of keep things hidden.
Aang also took Tenzin to ride the Giant koi and other things they did in the first series so he definitely did that on purpose
I loved The Legend of Korra, I still don't get the hate from some people
I honestly don't understand it either. Yes, there were a few gaps, but AtLA didn't wrap everything up neatly either. I think it's just hard for people because Korra is in this more futuristic setting (compared to the original show) and it's a lot more mature so Korra's opponents are a lot more mature and legit trying to kill her, so it does feel like a very different show. But I LOVE LoK!
aang it's not a bad dad he love this childs
Kya's a lesbian. I believe the comics go over that part
aang being a bad father is surprisingly realistic I mean his entire culture was wiped out and hadn’t seen an airbender for his entire lifespan if you’re entire culture is wiped out generally he would probably favor the airbender it sucks that he’s a bad father but honestly I love it
I honestly feel like Aang tried his best. He had to protect the world and having kids while doing that is hard. We know that past Avatars had kids, like Roku, but it's never mentioned if they were able to be fully there for their kids.
No matter what, it's sad that those characters when through that.
Honestly I feel Like The legend of Korra kinda ruined stuff-
@@amochikaay I definitely don't think it ruined things. I love the Legend of Korra and it shows struggles that real-life people today go through. A lot of people are absentee parents or favor one child more whether they realize it or not. I know plenty of my friends who have been through something similar. I think they were trying to make characters more relatable to some people.
I think that’s part of the realism of Korra - Aang likely did try his best, but he was racing time AND having to keep the world constantly in balance. It’s a lot, and it’s easy to let things slip in those occasions. Even without being the Avatar, I remember so many times my kids wanted me to play with their toys on the floor, and I had every excuse not get down there and play with them most of the time. Now they’re too old to play and it’s just like “wait, I missed it all? I thought I had more time!”.
I love you and you're always be my favorite youtuber and I'll always support you and I feel lucky to have you as a friend Megan
Thank you Faiz, I appreciate you coming to watch everything!
@@TheFangirlWatches you're always have my love and support and I'll always be your friend megan
wait isn't anga a monke why wolde he even have kids?
He kind of is, but I'm not sure that he got to full monk-hood before the war his the Air Nomads. Either way, he knew it was on his shoulders to produce the next generation of Airbenders, so he may have bent the rules for the greater good. Little air benders have to come from somewhere though, right?
@@TheFangirlWatches still gross thou
Monks aren't always celibate...
@@ashunifallstevity8323 well they sould that would help keep the populations down
People making an excuse, even Aang isn't a good parents. They are still blinded by nostalgia. They always say Aang is not perfect, but they are criticizing korra even Korra has more character development and more achievements than Aang? People are just blinded by nostalgia
He died 166 i think
Aang probably was a bad father because he was raised by monks and tenzin was the most similar to Aang
I forgot and also he was the avatar
Its cause he’s like Naruto. He doesn’t really know how to be the perfect dad
If he didn't mean to be a bad dad then how is he a bad dad