And it actually matters where the NPCs killed were from, with some countries having more or less children, some NPCs have no families and don't affect the stat.
Gods this is bringing back so many memories. I legit want to play this again! My Sneak, Pistol, Melee build was an absolute BLAST! And broken as all hell. Which helped make the game all the much funner.
I'd love love LOVE a series on this. Day to day gameplay is my this games strength, where it really shines is how actions actually affect the story and how characters treat you. This game pretty much nails the feeling of actions having consequences.
Totally agree. It was a good game where they took splinter cell and tried to impove on it. Didnt hit the spot all the time, but it was faaaaar better than the reviews gave it creddit for
Yeah my only issue was the boss fights. Felt like, since you could do them in any order, they were all balanced the same, effectively making the first one you do the hardest and the third kind of a joke (least thats how i remember it from when i played). if there was some patch to sorta make them scale based on what order you do them in or something i feel would fix pretty much my only problem with this game
@@the_batt Yeah boss fights should be a no-no in stealth games. Remember Deus Ex Human Revolution and it's idiotic action bossfights? In DE Mankind Divided was only one bossfight. It could be won by shooting, hacking, and even non-lethal. Much better.
Not hugely necessary, there's a new game plus, which is that greyed out veteran mode.. and with that, you can practically do everything you want to anyway, like James Boind.. two runs would be good though, to showcase some of the differences in approach, for sure. But yeah, please play lots more! It's a great game
Eh, don't worry, I'm a red blooded American and I suck with pistols too. I still owe a friend a new target stand after I shot his to bits at the range. From 25ft away...
@@orangesoda4535 if you get some perks from doing certain things in missions (getting g22's hep during the embassy mission reduces the cooldown of multiple skills including chainshot. there are many other perks that reduces its cooldown in other missions) you can get that to 18 seconds
Oh are you in for a treat. This whole middle eastern setting is just the introduction. After this you'll be jetting off to other foreign countries, forming alliances with shady characters and battling bond villains.
The pistol skill in this game is totally OP: At later levels, you can charge up and fire headshots without ever leaving cover, and you get the freeze time to line up shots ability which makes all the boss fights trivial (especially, if you also have the ability that instantly resets your cooldowns).
Add Steel Core Rounds and Bosses go down even quicker. My first few playthroughs I never used Brilliance or even the Gear upgrade but once I found out how great they are, they are almost used in every run. Here is an extra tip if you equip the extra ammo netting, (I think you can use both upgrades and they will stack), you can bring in extra ammo into the mission then after you gain control of your player you can unequip and still retain your ammo. I have another tip/glitch/exploit that can make or break the game for you depending on how you play, and once you learn it, it will be very hard for you to not utilize it.
This game was goddamn amazing for its time and even today very few games have ever matched it in its multiple branching paths and possible endings. While I own it on both Steam and PS3, I'm very sad that it is no longer available on Steam and others can't experience it anymore. Sega really should work with Obsidian to make a sequel to this game, but I doubt it will ever happen. We haven't had a great spy game in a very long time.
I have it on steam as well, though an update to something has made it run horribly and now unplayable. but I have to ask, what other games are similar to this? i would love to get my hands on something similar.
@@Jghost11 I don't think it was an update to the game, it might have been an update to steam or windows or something, but I played it probably like 6 months ago. framerate was at an unplayable low.
This. This is the kind of content I subscribed for. I love this stuff so much more than Jon covering the new big releases. Why not Wednesday was the shit.
Jon: "I will give you all what you have been waiting for, for years at this point...I think you know what I'm talking about!" Releases an Alpha Protocol video. Fallout 4 YOLO confirmed....
Jon, I am so happy you decided to check this out, but there are some things I want to say: First, I tweeted about this to you after your Fallout speech video, so I guess you never heard about it on there? It's a truly amazing game, I can't believe more people don't talk about this! Second, in Nasri's mission, it is actually possible to get through without triggering an alarm - you were on the right track, but the option you needed to pick was 'Aggressive' - assuming you wanted to avoid triggering the alarm, of course. Also, if you like being sarcastic, sometimes aggressive can bring truly amazing lines. For example: "I figured I'd just punch people until answers came out." Third, don't forget ammo types! Tranquillizer rounds are available only for pistols and you need to make sure you are using them, but in later missions, those can be very useful indeed! Awesome episode, I hope we see more of this! And remember - NEVER play this once. The joy of this game is repeats, but making different choices or being different classes! You will be amazed at how good this game is, how much variety there is, how much choice there really is!
I remmeber trying to buy this back in 2012 at a GameStop, and an employee told me the game was really bad, so I didn't buy it. I eventually got the game years later and had some fun with it, but the game is very buggy. However, I still wish that Obsidian would make a sequel or another spy game....
neither were "utter garbage". Ui and controls weren't great m/k because too controllery. Other than that the game ( i played it long after release, maybe was bad then?) was pretty good. Obsidian these days makes MMO level fetch and kill quests (95% in tow) which require no AI anyway. A bit of cover searching and scripted paths for the always-in-the-same-place npc. . Neither does Alpha protocol really. I don't see that being possibly a relevant issue in both games.
@@zcritten They did Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity didn't they? I don't know their structure, maybe it's diferent studios. But anyway, Aplha Protocal isnt't too far off conceptually of such an rpg.
@@5Andysalive I understand that, my point is more it feels like Microsoft are gonna prefer they do more outerworlds style RPGs then pillars of eternity
It's aged a bit for sure and I still can't get over the cheese of the voice acting, but just like TES Oblivion you gotta embrace the goofiness of the VA and mechanics/AI to enjoy it imo
Aw hell yes! I remember been so psyched when it first came out and I still love that game to this day. Sure, it has many flaws, but it's really quite a unique gem. Such a shame there hasn't been done more with the spy rpg concept. Love that you put this old goldie in the spotlight!
i don't usually comment but please do more of this its one of my favourites and the sheer diversity of options charachter relationships and endings is so good
I dont know why this is one of the only secret agent games. It's so cool. Goldeneye and other bond games don't really count because they're just shooter/action games. This game may have a lot of shooting, but the RPG elements make it great
I really hope you keep coming back to this one. I love Alpha Protocol. It's super jank, but really unique. The dialogue system alone makes it worth playing in my opinion.
This is a truly a great game, hopefully once you have played it more and understand the mechanic better we could see a hardest difficulty with recruit class series or livestream
How about fuck that? (Recruit is the true hard mode because you get no skills to start with, as you were a mere analyst before the game begins....So I played that as my first (and redo) run and it felt so NATURAL)
God this game was amazing. What happened to it was a goddamned shame. The way the game reacted to your decisions, the way you were encouraged to manipulate people through dialogue, rather than simply doing a "Professional" run or a "Sarcastic" run... It wasn't perfect, but there was so much here that was so good...
11:34 Jon is going to have Alpha "Mike" Protocol go through the entire game crab walking isn't he... His poor knees and back, Jon! Didn't you learn anything from Joel?
I remember this game! I was disappointed it didn't get a sequel, I think they could've ironed out a lot of the issues and made a great game, like Assassin's Creed 1.
Even if you don't play it as a live stream or other, I really hope you finish it, it's really good. And have decent replayability too I think, very different playstyles and options.
The intro interaction with Mina is like how I do most social interactions. What I want to say: You look good tonight. What I actually say. Static looks good on you. DOH!
@@jeremyalexander135 They managed to make brilliant games like New Vegas and KOTOR 2 despite being rushed to hell and back by the respective publishers. How do you expect them to fix all the bugs if they're not even allowed to properly finish the game?
I played this game. The tutorial told me to hold down spacebar to go into cover. I held down spacebar and he ran straight past the cover. This happened until I quit in frustration. That's right, I failed the tutorial.
I love this game, and gifted it to various friends on Steam in the past. I describe it to people as a combination of Deus Ex (the choice of combat vs stealth) and Mass Effect 1 (the skill system is very similar)
Glad to hear you have been awoken to the charm of Alpha Protocol, it's not a perfect game by any stretch, but one of my favourites to play, I got it second hand on Xbox 360 back in the day for a quid, and was charmed heavily, and also own it on Steam, however, I don't see this working as a livestream game: Decision timers are too short for viewer interactivity, and in the action/downtime style your streams follow, this would consume too much time, as downtime in the game is either dialogue needing decisions, or doing very little in a safehouse.
I actually remember watching a TH-camr (I think it was a member of the Yogscast) play this a long while back. He'd done two simultaneous playthroughs- one minimal violence, super suave sneaky sneak, and one guns-blazing, run and gun, Rambo style. It was really cool to watch.
I remember this game being referred to as being so incredibly broken that it permanently tainted the game's many many interesting and ambitious mechanics, structure and depth. I don't know if the game ever got a patch to make it more stable, officially or unofficially, but I remember it being referred to as a tragedy that it's unplayable to many.
This seems to be a common occurrence with Obsidian games (at the very least FNV and OW) very buggy and broken games that are really good if you can get past the brokenness.
On PC, the main issue was that some of the minigames had really, really, REALLY wonky controls if you were using keyboard + mouse rather than a controller. Otherwise it was a stable game, just really scruffy around the edges. The good more than made up for the bad I think.
Please play more! So much to offer, with branching choices that really matter. Better than ME any day. I used to see this around for second hand sale on console all the time, and figured no one else liked it. Which confused me, because I always loved it!
Would absolutely love more of this - Alpha Protocol can be horrendously buggy at times but it does a lot of interesting things and is a lot of fun to play (and replay).
I loved this game. However it's weaknesses become more apparent as the game goes on. Full of great obsidian ideas but none are really utilised all that well. I think it flew under the radar because people can't help but compare it to the game it could have been.
I have 2 Alpha Protocol stories that come to mind, from back when I played it on the 360 some years ago. 1. A guard was visibly conflicted between turning to chase me, while on patrol, and sticking to his patrol because he technically hadn't "seen" me yet. Because of this constant struggle he just walked a step, turned to try and charge me and then turned around to walk the same step of his partol. This made stealth for this instance impossible as he was by the only stairs leading out of the area. 2. I died at one point during the last area of a mission and, when the game reloaded, the entire area had no enemies. At all. The game forgot to spawn them in. So I just walked around gathering the everything and left the area comfortably without issue. Got all the stealth bonuses and such for being undetected as well.
This game looks amazing, and the fact that you are showing it to us and we can't buy it and play it is just mean :) Please do a full play through series some time, so we can at least enjoy it vicariously.
I remember buying this game in the bargain bin for about $3 or so and while it was jank as hell sometimes and nonsensical at points it was still rather fun. Best $3 I've ever spent, wish I could find the disc again.
This was very enjoyable and pretty much how my first go at this game went lol except I was more melee oriented. I hope you'll play more of this game man.
Loved this game. Still own it for the 360. I don't own one anymore and since Sega don't want to do anything with the licence nor pay for the music, which I'm sure the song that lapsed was turn up the radio, I doubt I'll be playing it on my xbox one anytime soon which really is sad. Absolutely brilliant game. Even Obsidian's most obscure games are amazing and really stands as a testament to how great Obsidian is
I came across your channel about a year ago. I love your fallout videos so much. I kind of lost interest in the franchise after 76 but watching some of your old fallout 4 and new Vegas videos i started playing again.
the games came out in 2010 which was the biggest year for good games in recent history. mass effect 2, red dead, fallout new vegas, alan wake, amnesia, Bioshock 2, assassin creed brotherhood just to name a few. the game was also advertised as being the unofficial 007 games so it drew the attention of golden eye fans who were understandably disappointed while also not gaining any attention from RPG fans. I can also vaguely remember the game being notoriously buggy, I havn't played it myself so whether that was untrue or if it was patched I can't say.
I really wasn't expecting not only john to be playing this but a few hours later a Raycevick to do a indepth 10 year later review on the same bloody game.
Never played this one. Shame I missed out on it. Looks like a lot of fun. Also Jon, might want to pay attention to the upgrades you put on your guns should you continue, that muzzle break you put on your shotgun lowered stability, and a weak gun that hits is more valuable than a powerful one that misses. All in all, looking forward to seeing more of this one.
I LOVED ALPHA PROTOCOL! Like I was so excited when this was announced and release because I wanted something that wasn't scifi (ME) or Fantasy (ES) and this is going to bring back fond memories. I kind of want to go back and play it. Sadly, I bought it and played it on XBOX and don't have one of those now.
First time I played this I didn't understand the character building at all. Then I realised this is essentially James Bond meets Mass Effect. Right down to being able to cut your boss off mid-call.
Oh man I loved this game. It's great. So long as you don't try and play it as a Shooter. It's definitely best as a Stealth game. Also now I want a whole series.
@@SahiPie I will concede it's fine. But I still hold it's the less fun way to play, IMO. My second run through I tried to play it as a shooter, fully specced that way and had significantly less fun. It was still a fun game. Just more frustrating and less satisfying a lot of the time. Especially in a few specific missions. (Also I hate doing the stealth tutorial in the armor they give you if you pick the Soldier background. But that's neither here nor there.)
Ah Alpha Protocol, I know I enjoyed playing it but for the life of me I cant actually remember anything that happens in the game (apart from the fact that one of the boss fights is against a coked-up Russian Billionaire.) maybe I should give it a replay.
I remember as if I NEVER used the shotgun - didn't know it had a knock back mechanic. 😂 Played this full stealth and tried to please everyone. Might give it another go as i have in in my Steam library.
Nobody's recommended it because Sega provided even worse terms or conditions or whatever than Bethesda, and the bugs really show it. It seemed rare that it even worked well enough to form an opinion about for most people
Does anyone else like Jon's videos immediately just coz it's Jon? I have a few TH-camrs I do that for, like, "I don't need to watch it first, I'm just happy it exists." 🤔😅
This is for sale on steam again. Reminds me of NOLF, except No One Lives Forever had the whacky Bond gadgets, and the most hilarious dialogue I've ever seen in a game.
I love the feedback they give for role play and research in this game. If you put in the work to understand the NPC's you get so much more out of this game. I really hope Jon's able to actually use the intel system properly, because the results are hilarious and awesome.
Jon, ALWAYS buy the intel during missions on people. The name of the game is Intelligence, on both people and locations and organizations.
The name of the game is Alpha Protocol! :P
Not when I play.
@@Puremindgames Good for you, sparky.
@@Praevalidum Thanks, I try.
If you look at the 2nd page of the mission breakdown you can see a stat for "orphans created"
And it actually matters where the NPCs killed were from, with some countries having more or less children, some NPCs have no families and don't affect the stat.
@@DippKlippGuy yeah like Chinese have 2 because there's a limit on children, Saudi's have many, alpha protocol soldiers at the end have none.
Where are the mothers?
@@addlemm44 Finally, the _real_ questions
Love that the lock picking minigame is actually an moderately accurate representation of what you really do when picking a lock.
Gods this is bringing back so many memories.
I legit want to play this again! My Sneak, Pistol, Melee build was an absolute BLAST! And broken as all hell. Which helped make the game all the much funner.
Luckily , I do still have it since 2010. It was birthday present from my hubby. I am planning to play it after watching this video.
Pretty similar build to what I ran, it was great fun until the terrible boss fights. Loved this game, terribly under rated.
@@DeadonArrival1185 Honestly the only real boss fight I had was with Brayko. . .and even then it was still one of the best Boss Fights in gaming.
"Well, here's a fun thing. Apparently vehicles have gas tanks"
Yes Jon, they typically do. It's where they store the gas that let's them go vroom.
You do realize Jon thinks cars are steam powered right?
@@KOT_AMV for some reason, this does not surprise me.
You mean the "Go Juice?"
@@librarianseth5572 that's Terry in Smash
In the U.K. Gas is known as petrol. He was probably thinking about tanks literally full of gas not gasoline
I'd love love LOVE a series on this. Day to day gameplay is my this games strength, where it really shines is how actions actually affect the story and how characters treat you. This game pretty much nails the feeling of actions having consequences.
I LOVED this game! Such an underrated gem!
Totally agree. It was a good game where they took splinter cell and tried to impove on it. Didnt hit the spot all the time, but it was faaaaar better than the reviews gave it creddit for
Yeah my only issue was the boss fights. Felt like, since you could do them in any order, they were all balanced the same, effectively making the first one you do the hardest and the third kind of a joke (least thats how i remember it from when i played). if there was some patch to sorta make them scale based on what order you do them in or something i feel would fix pretty much my only problem with this game
@@the_batt Yeah boss fights should be a no-no in stealth games. Remember Deus Ex Human Revolution and it's idiotic action bossfights?
In DE Mankind Divided was only one bossfight. It could be won by shooting, hacking, and even non-lethal. Much better.
By far my favorite game to have played on the Xbox 360.
I've always thought alpha protocol was one of their better games.
I like your profile picture.
Well, i want full series for every class
Seconded
I’m happy with one, this game was one of the first series I ever watched on TH-cam!
It is definitely worth doing all the classes.
Not hugely necessary, there's a new game plus, which is that greyed out veteran mode.. and with that, you can practically do everything you want to anyway, like James Boind.. two runs would be good though, to showcase some of the differences in approach, for sure.
But yeah, please play lots more! It's a great game
Jon: "He bloody retreated, what a coward."
Also Jon: *retreats 90% of the video*
8:37
"I'm not very good with pistols, to be honest..."
I mean you *ARE* Captain Shotgun, Jon.
Real shame too. Maxed out pistols essentially nets you like 7 guaranteed headshots every 30 seconds.
Eh, don't worry, I'm a red blooded American and I suck with pistols too. I still owe a friend a new target stand after I shot his to bits at the range. From 25ft away...
@@ryanpayne9119 weird flex but okay
@@orangesoda4535 if you get some perks from doing certain things in missions (getting g22's hep during the embassy mission reduces the cooldown of multiple skills including chainshot. there are many other perks that reduces its cooldown in other missions) you can get that to 18 seconds
@@orangesoda4535 yeah, Pistols are secretly the most OVERPOWERED things in the game.
It's one of my favorite broken games, the extra reactions from recruit and veteran were excellent. Would love for a remaster/sequel
Oh are you in for a treat. This whole middle eastern setting is just the introduction. After this you'll be jetting off to other foreign countries, forming alliances with shady characters and battling bond villains.
The pistol skill in this game is totally OP: At later levels, you can charge up and fire headshots without ever leaving cover, and you get the freeze time to line up shots ability which makes all the boss fights trivial (especially, if you also have the ability that instantly resets your cooldowns).
Add Steel Core Rounds and Bosses go down even quicker. My first few playthroughs I never used Brilliance or even the Gear upgrade but once I found out how great they are, they are almost used in every run.
Here is an extra tip if you equip the extra ammo netting, (I think you can use both upgrades and they will stack), you can bring in extra ammo into the mission then after you gain control of your player you can unequip and still retain your ammo. I have another tip/glitch/exploit that can make or break the game for you depending on how you play, and once you learn it, it will be very hard for you to not utilize it.
This game was goddamn amazing for its time and even today very few games have ever matched it in its multiple branching paths and possible endings. While I own it on both Steam and PS3, I'm very sad that it is no longer available on Steam and others can't experience it anymore.
Sega really should work with Obsidian to make a sequel to this game, but I doubt it will ever happen. We haven't had a great spy game in a very long time.
I have it on steam as well, though an update to something has made it run horribly and now unplayable. but I have to ask, what other games are similar to this? i would love to get my hands on something similar.
@@codandmgsrock when was the update because I played the game last year and had no issue?
@@Jghost11 I don't think it was an update to the game, it might have been an update to steam or windows or something, but I played it probably like 6 months ago. framerate was at an unplayable low.
@@codandmgsrock oh okay I haven't had an issue playing it.... yet in at least 2 years lol.
7:56 I can tell you the sneak animation at 1.75x speed is so silly and gremlin-y I couldn't stop re-watching it
Got this game on release, was so hyped and honestly while it is flawed still a great spy romp. Glad to see you playing it!
This. This is the kind of content I subscribed for. I love this stuff so much more than Jon covering the new big releases. Why not Wednesday was the shit.
Agreed
"No one brings up Alpha Protocol"
Except the comments sections requesting it for years 😭
And Raycevicks upcoming video
Exactly, I've told him about this years ago. I will not be blamed for Jon's lack of perception
RIGHT?!
I love Jon but why does he say silly things like this? Everyone talks about Alpha Protocol.
I recommended it on his fallout speech video just the other week. I was so excited to see he's playing it!
Jon: "I will give you all what you have been waiting for, for years at this point...I think you know what I'm talking about!"
Releases an Alpha Protocol video.
Fallout 4 YOLO confirmed....
Oh man, I remember playing this game for hours on end. Thanks for the throwback!
Jon, I am so happy you decided to check this out, but there are some things I want to say: First, I tweeted about this to you after your Fallout speech video, so I guess you never heard about it on there? It's a truly amazing game, I can't believe more people don't talk about this! Second, in Nasri's mission, it is actually possible to get through without triggering an alarm - you were on the right track, but the option you needed to pick was 'Aggressive' - assuming you wanted to avoid triggering the alarm, of course. Also, if you like being sarcastic, sometimes aggressive can bring truly amazing lines. For example: "I figured I'd just punch people until answers came out." Third, don't forget ammo types! Tranquillizer rounds are available only for pistols and you need to make sure you are using them, but in later missions, those can be very useful indeed!
Awesome episode, I hope we see more of this! And remember - NEVER play this once. The joy of this game is repeats, but making different choices or being different classes! You will be amazed at how good this game is, how much variety there is, how much choice there really is!
I remmeber trying to buy this back in 2012 at a GameStop, and an employee told me the game was really bad, so I didn't buy it. I eventually got the game years later and had some fun with it, but the game is very buggy. However, I still wish that Obsidian would make a sequel or another spy game....
neither were "utter garbage". Ui and controls weren't great m/k because too controllery. Other than that the game ( i played it long after release, maybe was bad then?) was pretty good.
Obsidian these days makes MMO level fetch and kill quests (95% in tow) which require no AI anyway. A bit of cover searching and scripted paths for the always-in-the-same-place npc. . Neither does Alpha protocol really. I don't see that being possibly a relevant issue in both games.
@@5Andysalive Most peoples experience of obsidian now is new vegas so Microsoft will probably not let them make non Bethesda style RPGs for awhile
@@zcritten They did Tyranny and Pillars of Eternity didn't they? I don't know their structure, maybe it's diferent studios.
But anyway, Aplha Protocal isnt't too far off conceptually of such an rpg.
@@5Andysalive I understand that, my point is more it feels like Microsoft are gonna prefer they do more outerworlds style RPGs then pillars of eternity
It's aged a bit for sure and I still can't get over the cheese of the voice acting, but just like TES Oblivion you gotta embrace the goofiness of the VA and mechanics/AI to enjoy it imo
Aw hell yes! I remember been so psyched when it first came out and I still love that game to this day. Sure, it has many flaws, but it's really quite a unique gem. Such a shame there hasn't been done more with the spy rpg concept. Love that you put this old goldie in the spotlight!
Suave: James Bond mode
Professional: Jason Bourne mode
Aggressive: Jack Bauer mode
(... why do all their names have the initials JB?)
because
Just Because
@endrian. Stupid: Johnny English mode don’t forget him
@@joebeard4498 Are you a spy? Something about you name...
@@TypicallyThomas (X) Gormless
I do love that conversations are based on your class
i don't usually comment but please do more of this its one of my favourites and the sheer diversity of options charachter relationships and endings is so good
I dont know why this is one of the only secret agent games. It's so cool. Goldeneye and other bond games don't really count because they're just shooter/action games. This game may have a lot of shooting, but the RPG elements make it great
Raycevick uploaded an hour-long video today about this very game.
Reminds me a little of No One Lives Forever. I would love to see Jon playing NOLF.
John, you are an amazing creator. Thank you for entertaining us and informing us!
Alpha Protocal: The Sarcastic Arsehole Run.
Next series after CK3.
I so Told everyone about Alpha protocol - the missions keep getting more awesome
I really hope you keep coming back to this one. I love Alpha Protocol. It's super jank, but really unique. The dialogue system alone makes it worth playing in my opinion.
This is a truly a great game, hopefully once you have played it more and understand the mechanic better we could see a hardest difficulty with recruit class series or livestream
How about fuck that? (Recruit is the true hard mode because you get no skills to start with, as you were a mere analyst before the game begins....So I played that as my first (and redo) run and it felt so NATURAL)
God this game was amazing. What happened to it was a goddamned shame. The way the game reacted to your decisions, the way you were encouraged to manipulate people through dialogue, rather than simply doing a "Professional" run or a "Sarcastic" run...
It wasn't perfect, but there was so much here that was so good...
I think the title is missing the "Part 1".
11:34 Jon is going to have Alpha "Mike" Protocol go through the entire game crab walking isn't he... His poor knees and back, Jon! Didn't you learn anything from Joel?
I remember this game! I was disappointed it didn't get a sequel, I think they could've ironed out a lot of the issues and made a great game, like Assassin's Creed 1.
Even if you don't play it as a live stream or other, I really hope you finish it, it's really good. And have decent replayability too I think, very different playstyles and options.
The intro interaction with Mina is like how I do most social interactions. What I want to say: You look good tonight. What I actually say. Static looks good on you. DOH!
I’ve come to realize that most games by Obsidian are brilliant. They have a very good resume
@@jeremyalexander135 They managed to make brilliant games like New Vegas and KOTOR 2 despite being rushed to hell and back by the respective publishers. How do you expect them to fix all the bugs if they're not even allowed to properly finish the game?
Dude I used to love this game your so awesome man love your videos!!!!
I played this game. The tutorial told me to hold down spacebar to go into cover. I held down spacebar and he ran straight past the cover. This happened until I quit in frustration. That's right, I failed the tutorial.
One of my favorite games simply by virtue of of delivering on the choices matter concept. Wold love to get more of it!
I've been pleading with Obsidian for years for Alpha Protocol 2 🙏😭
I love this game, and gifted it to various friends on Steam in the past. I describe it to people as a combination of Deus Ex (the choice of combat vs stealth) and Mass Effect 1 (the skill system is very similar)
I still come back to this game every so often. There was a LOT of attention to detail based on your choices in this game.
Glad to hear you have been awoken to the charm of Alpha Protocol, it's not a perfect game by any stretch, but one of my favourites to play, I got it second hand on Xbox 360 back in the day for a quid, and was charmed heavily, and also own it on Steam, however, I don't see this working as a livestream game: Decision timers are too short for viewer interactivity, and in the action/downtime style your streams follow, this would consume too much time, as downtime in the game is either dialogue needing decisions, or doing very little in a safehouse.
I actually remember watching a TH-camr (I think it was a member of the Yogscast) play this a long while back. He'd done two simultaneous playthroughs- one minimal violence, super suave sneaky sneak, and one guns-blazing, run and gun, Rambo style. It was really cool to watch.
If I remember correctly this game is so in depth that it actually tracks the number of orphans you create.
I remember this game being referred to as being so incredibly broken that it permanently tainted the game's many many interesting and ambitious mechanics, structure and depth. I don't know if the game ever got a patch to make it more stable, officially or unofficially, but I remember it being referred to as a tragedy that it's unplayable to many.
This seems to be a common occurrence with Obsidian games (at the very least FNV and OW) very buggy and broken games that are really good if you can get past the brokenness.
I played it at launch at Xbox 360 and worked nicely except minor bugs. But yeah, I heard that was a mess on pc
yeah it was so bad i gave up using guns and just used close combat the entire game
@@metronicmagician1816 Obsidian makes the best broken games.
On PC, the main issue was that some of the minigames had really, really, REALLY wonky controls if you were using keyboard + mouse rather than a controller. Otherwise it was a stable game, just really scruffy around the edges. The good more than made up for the bad I think.
Wait, alpha protocol was obsidian?! I played this game back in the day and never even knew.
They never talk about it because it is about spies , Jon. xD
I'm glad you're going to play more of it, since it looks interesting and you can't get it anymore.
The special perks for the pistols made it so OP but so much fun. Oh and the recruit/veteran runs so funny.
Please play more! So much to offer, with branching choices that really matter. Better than ME any day.
I used to see this around for second hand sale on console all the time, and figured no one else liked it. Which confused me, because I always loved it!
The wild part? It STAYS this good.
Coffee Potato Cept the ending
@@SahiPie ain't the ending just the pinnacle of all your decisions, with final decisions potentially changing everything on top of that?
The ending was awesome I loved when my character *Spoilers*
Announced that the hard drive was actually a mine.
@@SahiPie Eh, it's been a minute, but I recall it being decent enough.
@@yaboil7774 It makes more sense than announcing that it's a Yours.
I do love this game, its like playing as James bond with a mix of austin powers
Would absolutely love more of this - Alpha Protocol can be horrendously buggy at times but it does a lot of interesting things and is a lot of fun to play (and replay).
I loved this game. However it's weaknesses become more apparent as the game goes on.
Full of great obsidian ideas but none are really utilised all that well.
I think it flew under the radar because people can't help but compare it to the game it could have been.
I have 2 Alpha Protocol stories that come to mind, from back when I played it on the 360 some years ago.
1. A guard was visibly conflicted between turning to chase me, while on patrol, and sticking to his patrol because he technically hadn't "seen" me yet. Because of this constant struggle he just walked a step, turned to try and charge me and then turned around to walk the same step of his partol. This made stealth for this instance impossible as he was by the only stairs leading out of the area.
2. I died at one point during the last area of a mission and, when the game reloaded, the entire area had no enemies. At all. The game forgot to spawn them in. So I just walked around gathering the everything and left the area comfortably without issue. Got all the stealth bonuses and such for being undetected as well.
Jon, Alpha protocol is generally considered pretty highly in most communities that like niche/jank games.
This game looks amazing, and the fact that you are showing it to us and we can't buy it and play it is just mean :)
Please do a full play through series some time, so we can at least enjoy it vicariously.
Finally... FINALLY! You play the actually best Obsidian RPG... Yeah... I said it!
Typically Thomas Well said, sir.
Controversial but agreeable
I would say most ambitious best is still new Vegas with mods
Better than KOTOR 2?
@@TenderbitsGames Oh crap, I forgot about KOTOR 2... Hmmm... I need to replay both of these to reinforce my opinions
Yes, please play this as a series. It has its flaws, but it is so overwhelmingly charming it makes up for it.
I remember buying this game in the bargain bin for about $3 or so and while it was jank as hell sometimes and nonsensical at points it was still rather fun. Best $3 I've ever spent, wish I could find the disc again.
This was very enjoyable and pretty much how my first go at this game went lol except I was more melee oriented. I hope you'll play more of this game man.
This is a great game! I played it through 3 times this summer, got 1000/1000 Achievements on Xbox. A true hidden gem.
Loved this game when it was new. Didnt understand why it didnt become popular and get a sequel :/
Loved this game. Still own it for the 360. I don't own one anymore and since Sega don't want to do anything with the licence nor pay for the music, which I'm sure the song that lapsed was turn up the radio, I doubt I'll be playing it on my xbox one anytime soon which really is sad. Absolutely brilliant game. Even Obsidian's most obscure games are amazing and really stands as a testament to how great Obsidian is
I came across your channel about a year ago. I love your fallout videos so much. I kind of lost interest in the franchise after 76 but watching some of your old fallout 4 and new Vegas videos i started playing again.
the games came out in 2010 which was the biggest year for good games in recent history. mass effect 2, red dead, fallout new vegas, alan wake, amnesia, Bioshock 2, assassin creed brotherhood just to name a few. the game was also advertised as being the unofficial 007 games so it drew the attention of golden eye fans who were understandably disappointed while also not gaining any attention from RPG fans. I can also vaguely remember the game being notoriously buggy, I havn't played it myself so whether that was untrue or if it was patched I can't say.
I really wasn't expecting not only john to be playing this but a few hours later a Raycevick to do a indepth 10 year later review on the same bloody game.
Never played this one. Shame I missed out on it. Looks like a lot of fun. Also Jon, might want to pay attention to the upgrades you put on your guns should you continue, that muzzle break you put on your shotgun lowered stability, and a weak gun that hits is more valuable than a powerful one that misses. All in all, looking forward to seeing more of this one.
I LOVED ALPHA PROTOCOL! Like I was so excited when this was announced and release because I wanted something that wasn't scifi (ME) or Fantasy (ES) and this is going to bring back fond memories. I kind of want to go back and play it. Sadly, I bought it and played it on XBOX and don't have one of those now.
I have a copy of this on the old xbox 360. One of my favourite games
Doing all the training missions is a huge boost in money and sneak.
I love being a recruit over a veteran.
Please play more! I love this game and did a different style of playthrough years ago and I would LOVE to see you go through this game!
First time I played this I didn't understand the character building at all. Then I realised this is essentially James Bond meets Mass Effect. Right down to being able to cut your boss off mid-call.
I've always said Alpha Protocol was good. In fact, I think I recommended it previously (maybe on the Binary Domain video).
Oh man I loved this game. It's great. So long as you don't try and play it as a Shooter. It's definitely best as a Stealth game. Also now I want a whole series.
Isaiah Bahr it’s fine as a shooter, just spec for it
@@SahiPie I will concede it's fine. But I still hold it's the less fun way to play, IMO. My second run through I tried to play it as a shooter, fully specced that way and had significantly less fun. It was still a fun game. Just more frustrating and less satisfying a lot of the time. Especially in a few specific missions. (Also I hate doing the stealth tutorial in the armor they give you if you pick the Soldier background. But that's neither here nor there.)
Ah Alpha Protocol, I know I enjoyed playing it but for the life of me I cant actually remember anything that happens in the game (apart from the fact that one of the boss fights is against a coked-up Russian Billionaire.) maybe I should give it a replay.
I honestly thought Jon knew about this already.
I thought he was deliberately ignoring it or something
Yes I love Alpha protocol. Please give this a full playthrough
I remember as if I NEVER used the shotgun - didn't know it had a knock back mechanic. 😂 Played this full stealth and tried to please everyone. Might give it another go as i have in in my Steam library.
Nobody's recommended it because Sega provided even worse terms or conditions or whatever than Bethesda, and the bugs really show it. It seemed rare that it even worked well enough to form an opinion about for most people
Jon: Well somehow they lost me.
*immediately comes under fire*
That hat and glasses combo though 🔥
Does anyone else like Jon's videos immediately just coz it's Jon?
I have a few TH-camrs I do that for, like, "I don't need to watch it first, I'm just happy it exists." 🤔😅
Please, please please please, John, could you make a full playthrough of it? It's a great non-linear RPG where everything you do matters.
2:10 I guess SPSSASTTM is not as catchy as "SPECIAL" 😁
Oh dang this is one of the first PC games I ever owned. Awesome to see it finally addressed on this channel
This is for sale on steam again. Reminds me of NOLF, except No One Lives Forever had the whacky Bond gadgets, and the most hilarious dialogue I've ever seen in a game.
I'm gonna get it.
I love this game, iv got it on steam too luckily
That 3-second chokehold though. lmao
I love the feedback they give for role play and research in this game. If you put in the work to understand the NPC's you get so much more out of this game. I really hope Jon's able to actually use the intel system properly, because the results are hilarious and awesome.
Captian Shotgun you say? Nice
One of the statistics was how many orphans you made... god I loved this game.
It's a buggy mess, but I love it so much. Bummed we won't get a squeal.