One key tip for me to watch out for are areas offering creature comforts, they can be death traps for staying in the race. Treat them with discipline and caution. Always have a plan for the stop before you stop. I stopped at the colosal cave visitors center and never got started again. Granted I was at my limit already with the heat that day and previous days and already way behind anyone else so that took a toll mentally, but the combination of guacamole, ice, soda, cheeseburgers, and air-conditioning, I never got started again and scratched.
yeah this is a great tip! This got me on Pinyons and Pines one year when it was a figure 8 and came back through Flagstaff halfway through the race. Plan the stop in advance!
Same to you Josh! I ended up having to take siesta's everyday at the hottest part in the day and ride later into the night. It was so brutal. Hope to cross paths with you again!
I just bought a pair of Pearl Izumi X-Alp Summit shoes. I've heard these are pretty burly. But if I do the 800, I will absolutely either wear flats/running shoes or at a minimum carry a pair for all the HAB and the Canyon hike.
it seems like a pretty popular option. I used Home Grown shuttles and they had a specific sign up for the AZTR. The cost was $300 from picketpost to the border but in my opinion well worth it and about the same as cost for me to drive my truck not to mention the time for my wife to round trip from Flagstaff to the border. We left picketpost at 10am day before the race start and picked up in Tucson. Many 300 and 800 riders flew into Tucson then rode to the shuttle pickup. I got to the border around 5pm or so then camped/hybernated before the start the next morning. I highly recommend. homegrownmtb.com/event/azt-300-800-bikepacking-event-shuttle-service-2/
Wait, you had a sleeping bag in the front roll, it looked so svelte I'd assumed only a pad and bivy!? Nice lean setup, and well done on utilizing Lighterpack like the thru-hikers do. Nice video as always, and loved the sun knees fix on your shoe. Strong ride, especially on that Martinez Cyn climb! I agree that strength training is wise for these events and a good life in general. I'd add some goblin squats instead of bodyweight squats since you already have a kettlebell. Why not throw in some Kettlebell Halos while you're at it?
yah dude I had an MSR E-bivy, Klymit inertia x-frame pad, and Mountain Hardware Fantom Spark 28 degree bag rolled up in my front roll. It was tight but worked! Same to you great finish! goblin squats and halos it is!
I've done tons of bike touring. Started back in 80's. 14 countries so far. A couple years of Rando. Mtb racing, cyclocross etc. I always learn something from the really experienced younger generation, and the gear choices are amazing these days! Anyway, I really enjoyed your presentation and I wanted to ask you what model of Ergon grips are on your Ibis and Motobecane. Take care. PG from Alberta.
I'm super envious of your bike touring. My day job and family keeps me from exploring the world by bike. Thanks for watching the video. I have the older GS1 grips on the moto and the newer GS1 Evo on the Ripley.
You are lucky with the wet shirt that made you feel cool but it is dangerous and better not to do that because it actually raises the core temperature. The body should be cooled by evaporating fluids from the inside out and not by evaporating water from the surface of the skin. Another thing, I saw that Josh didn't roll this time but packed the sleeping bag and that's because he didn't use a bivy because he didn't expect rain during the race.
The truth is that I did not find it written down, I learned it from an army man. Wikipedia recommends not wrapping a dehydrated person in wet clothes. I wet my pants and shirt in the summer but not my head. (lol) The guy was citing military documents so even though it's not a secret, I don't have access to it.
@@user-bj7kt9vm2c www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8800980/ here is a good study "Neck, face and head cooling could significantly reduce local skin temperature, improving local perceptual sensations such as thermal sensation and thermal discomfort in athletes exercising in the heat. For both endurance and team sport athletes, neck cooling is a better per-cooling strategy than head or face cooling. Furthermore, while head cooling is preferred over face cooling for endurance athletes, its effectiveness among team sport athletes has yet to be determined. For all athletes who have access to water, face cooling is a recommended cooling strategy. Furthermore, it is unclear whether the combined cooling of the head, neck and/or face could have a synergistic effect on sports and exercise performance in the heat. Future research should thoroughly investigate the potential of neck, head and face cooling to improve the performance of male and female athletes, while they participate in various types of sports and exercise activities in heat. Furthermore, the development of powerful but portable head, neck and face cooling systems is critical due to the great need to dissipate metabolic heat production during intense sports activities."
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One key tip for me to watch out for are areas offering creature comforts, they can be death traps for staying in the race. Treat them with discipline and caution. Always have a plan for the stop before you stop. I stopped at the colosal cave visitors center and never got started again. Granted I was at my limit already with the heat that day and previous days and already way behind anyone else so that took a toll mentally, but the combination of guacamole, ice, soda, cheeseburgers, and air-conditioning, I never got started again and scratched.
yeah this is a great tip! This got me on Pinyons and Pines one year when it was a figure 8 and came back through Flagstaff halfway through the race. Plan the stop in advance!
Love this! I scratched in 2022. Looking forward to another try! Your input was great!
Awesome. Thank you for watching and you can get after it again some time.
Great meeting you out there! Congrats on the finish. That heat on day one ultimately led me to scratch at mile 110.
Same to you Josh! I ended up having to take siesta's everyday at the hottest part in the day and ride later into the night. It was so brutal. Hope to cross paths with you again!
Great suggestions for battling the evil weather and terrain.
Maybe carry (strap to front roll) some lightweight running or hiking shoes, maybe that's a time killer
I just bought a pair of Pearl Izumi X-Alp Summit shoes. I've heard these are pretty burly. But if I do the 800, I will absolutely either wear flats/running shoes or at a minimum carry a pair for all the HAB and the Canyon hike.
Always so good. 300 on my list. Probably 2025 I have a lot of work to do before that.
Awesome! Thanks for watching.
You mentioned a shuttle! Is that the most common ways racers get to start? Would you park in Superior and shuttle all the way to start?
it seems like a pretty popular option. I used Home Grown shuttles and they had a specific sign up for the AZTR. The cost was $300 from picketpost to the border but in my opinion well worth it and about the same as cost for me to drive my truck not to mention the time for my wife to round trip from Flagstaff to the border. We left picketpost at 10am day before the race start and picked up in Tucson. Many 300 and 800 riders flew into Tucson then rode to the shuttle pickup. I got to the border around 5pm or so then camped/hybernated before the start the next morning. I highly recommend. homegrownmtb.com/event/azt-300-800-bikepacking-event-shuttle-service-2/
Wait, you had a sleeping bag in the front roll, it looked so svelte I'd assumed only a pad and bivy!? Nice lean setup, and well done on utilizing Lighterpack like the thru-hikers do. Nice video as always, and loved the sun knees fix on your shoe. Strong ride, especially on that Martinez Cyn climb!
I agree that strength training is wise for these events and a good life in general. I'd add some goblin squats instead of bodyweight squats since you already have a kettlebell. Why not throw in some Kettlebell Halos while you're at it?
yah dude I had an MSR E-bivy, Klymit inertia x-frame pad, and Mountain Hardware Fantom Spark 28 degree bag rolled up in my front roll. It was tight but worked!
Same to you great finish! goblin squats and halos it is!
I've done tons of bike touring. Started back in 80's. 14 countries so far. A couple years of Rando. Mtb racing, cyclocross etc. I always learn something from the really experienced younger generation, and the gear choices are amazing these days! Anyway, I really enjoyed your presentation and I wanted to ask you what model of Ergon grips are on your Ibis and Motobecane.
Take care. PG from Alberta.
I'm super envious of your bike touring. My day job and family keeps me from exploring the world by bike. Thanks for watching the video. I have the older GS1 grips on the moto and the newer GS1 Evo on the Ripley.
@@TheEnduranceStudio Ordering some now. Thanks.
You are lucky with the wet shirt that made you feel cool but it is dangerous and better not to do that because it actually raises the core temperature. The body should be cooled by evaporating fluids from the inside out and not by evaporating water from the surface of the skin. Another thing, I saw that Josh didn't roll this time but packed the sleeping bag and that's because he didn't use a bivy because he didn't expect rain during the race.
I'd like to see some studies on this or research papers. I have a hard time believing this.
The truth is that I did not find it written down, I learned it from an army man. Wikipedia recommends not wrapping a dehydrated person in wet clothes. I wet my pants and shirt in the summer but not my head. (lol) The guy was citing military documents so even though it's not a secret, I don't have access to it.
@@user-bj7kt9vm2c www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8800980/ here is a good study "Neck, face and head cooling could significantly reduce local skin temperature, improving local perceptual sensations such as thermal sensation and thermal discomfort in athletes exercising in the heat. For both endurance and team sport athletes, neck cooling is a better per-cooling strategy than head or face cooling. Furthermore, while head cooling is preferred over face cooling for endurance athletes, its effectiveness among team sport athletes has yet to be determined. For all athletes who have access to water, face cooling is a recommended cooling strategy. Furthermore, it is unclear whether the combined cooling of the head, neck and/or face could have a synergistic effect on sports and exercise performance in the heat. Future research should thoroughly investigate the potential of neck, head and face cooling to improve the performance of male and female athletes, while they participate in various types of sports and exercise activities in heat. Furthermore, the development of powerful but portable head, neck and face cooling systems is critical due to the great need to dissipate metabolic heat production during intense sports activities."