The Plot Twist NO ONE Saw Coming…

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  • @Warriorbob-im5py
    @Warriorbob-im5py 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1391

    The curfew situation could’ve been solved by Danny phasing into his room then coming down stairs and feigning that his parents just missed him coming in.

    • @Zacman1123
      @Zacman1123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +603

      To quote Danny from the Desiree episode: "if I weren't a C student, I would've thought of that a long time ago."

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +134

      @@Zacman1123 Yeah, Danny can be thoughtless.

    • @powerrangerkid16
      @powerrangerkid16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +76

      ​@@Zacman1123 no he's an A Minus student, a solid A Minus

    • @Zacman1123
      @Zacman1123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@powerrangerkid16 that was one episode

    • @powerrangerkid16
      @powerrangerkid16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      @@Zacman1123 I........ was making a reference?

  • @shaycat13
    @shaycat13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +626

    Yeah i forgot how Jazz was before she found out Danny's secret. I remember loving Jazz after she found out, didnt tell anyone including Danny himself then kept covering for him.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

      ONLY reconsidering when Danny was considering cheating. It always amazed me how surprised Dan was to find out that Jazz knew. Kinda like for a second he reverted back to his old self.

    • @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985
      @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Yeah, Jazz was mildly annoying in the early episodes until that moment. I liked her more after.

  • @roderick8167
    @roderick8167 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2311

    I still find it hilarious that Jack is responsible for creating two of the most powerful ghosts in history, his best friend Vlad Masters / Vlad Plasmius and his own son Danny who will grow to be even more powerful than Vlad himself, maybe Jack is more of genius than even he realizes 😂

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +321

      Right?! Like, sure his foolishness caused the accident... But also, DAMN DUDE lol. Insane that he was able to create such powerful ghost/human hybrids without knowing exactly what he was doing or that he even did it in the first place.
      Thanks for clicking on the video and leaving a comment, my guy! These early on comments help me a ton!

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      @@DuskTillShawn i know right Jack created two powerful human/ ghost twice like how do you even do that even by accident and unknowingly Lol and of course no problem Shawn 👍🙌🔥💯

    • @LionWithAGun
      @LionWithAGun 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

      i think its funny if you think about it vlad was hit by a portal that was incomplete and had the wrong formula and danny was hit by a fully complete portal that was fully functioning. so danny may be more powerful because his accident was in the better version of the portal.

    • @roderick8167
      @roderick8167 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +48

      @@LionWithAGun ayo your right I didn't think of like that because even after being a ghost for 20 years Vlad never got the ghostly whale power which is said to be the most powerful ghost power a ghost could have and Danny got the ghostly whale what 2 or 3 years of being a ghost but also we have to take into account did Danny get the ghostly whale so soon because he's a more complete half ghost or was it because he messed with time in the ultimate enemy special

    • @bearberserker
      @bearberserker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      I would say Jack is more of a savant than a genius.

  • @littlegreensunflower3547
    @littlegreensunflower3547 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +966

    Tbh, I think the saddest, most tragic part is, Vlad was right and, in another timeline, he got one of the things he wanted in the most horrific way. He said he and Danny could be powerful and rule the world together and, well, they did. Dan/Dark Danny is the very result of that that ended up destroying everything and everyone. Grim for a kids show, indeed

    • @adamnemo42
      @adamnemo42 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

      To add on to that tragedy it took that same event for Vlad to realize how wrong he was and how much he truly missed Jack and regretted his years of bitter resentment.

    • @littlegreensunflower3547
      @littlegreensunflower3547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      @@adamnemo42 exactly 😭😭😭

    • @dorememe8548
      @dorememe8548 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      As a kid, I was kind of meh about the show at first. I only realized how fun it was when I saw how dark it could get.

    • @governedmoth1749
      @governedmoth1749 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      There's another episode where Danny tries to save Vlad from the portal but unknowingly, saving Vlad means the beam will bounce and hit Jack and Jack gets put in Vlad's situation and no one visited him but because he saw Danny leaving he spent his life trashing his house in rage as he couldn't find the "Ghost Boy" who ruined his life and when Danny tries to explain, Jack hunts him, Vlad, and Maddie in revenge. The episode proves Jack is no better than Vlad and the world is better off for it because Vlad was careful in his research while Jack needs Maddie to succeed so the ghost problem isn't nearly as bad. Danny undos the "mistake" because his personal life is worse though as he was never born and Danny learns that the answer to the trolley problem is do nothing otherwise you're responsible for someone's suffering. Doesn't matter that the overall suffering is reduced in the slightest. I don't know why the episode chose to allude to the fact life is better while showing Danny's family never occurs so this is the "worst" timeline. It feels like the banned fairy odd-parents episode where Timmy wishes he didn't exist and everyone was happier he didn't exist except they made sure Danny had something which was Family which doesn't exist because of him so he has to fix it to bury the point that a lot of problems were caused by Jack and everyone would be better off if he suffered from his mistakes instead of the innocent friend he then abandons in the hospital and that both Vlad and Jack weren't good friends to each other. And that soulmates aren't a thing and Maddie loves them both and married whoever didn't get hit by the beam.

    • @littlegreensunflower3547
      @littlegreensunflower3547 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@governedmoth1749 shit, yeah. I forgot about that episode, but you're so right. Such good character writing on this show, tbh

  • @Shidyk
    @Shidyk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +636

    Let's be fair here: Jack is rarely given the credit he's due do to his personality. I mean, he was able to: create a portal to another dimension (which failed a few times but managed to work eventually by the time he was out of college), created several inventions that run on ectoplasmic energy (something that by all intentions, is an energy source that the world has never tapped), has made many of his household appliances/devices into weapons/tools that run on the ectoplasmic energy (from his van, to his house, to even a thermos that can suck in ghosts), is strong enough to fight and overwhelm ghosts who by all means should be able to handle a human like Jack (I am looking at Vlad in his ghost form, the Fright Knight in a prototype robot part, and Skulker who is reputed as the "greatest hunter" in the Ghost World), was able to fish and bring back a giant monster from the Ghost World (that Skulker brought when he was hunting him and Danny on a father/son fishing trip), and is STILL capable of paying/maintaining a house for four despite being obsessed with ghosts while raising two teenagers.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm thinking the Fentons make/supply/maybe even fix inventions/machines for high paying customers, ghost related or otherwise. It might be the only way they could support a family with a small, two employee staffed business. And if it IS just Jack and Maddie, they don't have to have money to pay employees. Everything's split between bolstering the business and keeping their family afloat.

    • @raymondfisheriii791
      @raymondfisheriii791 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +91

      To add to this list (someone else did post this comment here, but it feels like it should be sent out a bit more because it’s a DAMN good point): Dude’s portals, even by accident, created two of the most powerful ghost hybrids in history: Danny and Vlad themselves. Both of them have actively been changing the course of ghost history since their respective accidents

    • @Shidyk
      @Shidyk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@raymondfisheriii791 Well, I was leaving that unspoken since it technically ties to the portals he's made, but, yes, there's that too. LoL

    • @jan_harald
      @jan_harald 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@raymondfisheriii791funny part is that he never knew that part happened, lol
      at least not for many years

    • @raymondfisheriii791
      @raymondfisheriii791 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@jan_harald yeah, the fact he did it by accident does kinda show that he may just be a savant

  • @youtubeuniversity3638
    @youtubeuniversity3638 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    20:20 Jack actually resisted.
    Let that sink in.
    Jack. Can. Fight. It.
    23:06 And telling that Danny hasn't such a struggle. Like on some subconscious level Jack can *feel* which ghost means well and which one intends on harm.

  • @chaos4654
    @chaos4654 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +337

    Shame Harriet never seemed to make another appearence after everyone started taking Ghosts seriously.
    She probably could've started her own Ghost News channel.

    • @13KuriMaster
      @13KuriMaster 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      I know she got a cameo in "Million Dollar ghost", as the news anchor reporting on how the need for more competent "not Jack Fenton" ghosts hunters is more and more apparent to the citizens.

    • @Succulent_Pomegranate
      @Succulent_Pomegranate 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@13KuriMasterVlad could’ve dated Harriet, if he would just broaden his horizons a bit more!

  • @AceFuzzLord
    @AceFuzzLord 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +353

    One of my favorite moments that I recall, is when Jack is going to vote for Vlad, saying he's going to vote for him and one of Vlad's ghost clones takes control of Jack, and he says "I mean, I'm going to vote for Vlad!"
    Vlad taking control of his biggest supporter is hilarious.

    • @sheridanroad2001
      @sheridanroad2001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      I thought it indicated Vlad's opinion of Jack's incompetence that he didn't trust Jack to actually vote correctly.

  • @kingwashington4044
    @kingwashington4044 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +492

    As someone from Wisconsin I'm insulted that they gave the Dairy King Ghost the most Minnesotian accent I've ever heard

    • @fireblast3001
      @fireblast3001 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

      As a Minnesotan, this deeply pleases me

    • @lord_wyran
      @lord_wyran 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      suck it wiscanny

    • @Justin-Hill-1987
      @Justin-Hill-1987 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I agree. Both accents originated from parts of Europe. The Wisconsin accent has central European influences, including German, French, Belgian, Dutch, Finnish and Polish, while the Minnesota's has mostly Nordic Scandinavian influence, including Danish.

    • @terraventusaqua123
      @terraventusaqua123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      As someone who grew up in Georgia, I didn’t know there was a difference…

    • @kingwashington4044
      @kingwashington4044 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@terraventusaqua123 there is a huge difference
      The accent & dialect is extremely different
      Imagine someone make a movie about living in Georgia and everyone have the most Floridian accents
      That's the closest comparison I can think of

  • @jasondarkflame4948
    @jasondarkflame4948 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +539

    Jack has a 20 intelligence but 6 wisdom

    • @scottbruckner4653
      @scottbruckner4653 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      18 wis take it or leave it, and not an ASI more.

    • @FosukeLordOfError
      @FosukeLordOfError 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      My kind of dnd character.

    • @kyosukeplays
      @kyosukeplays 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Bro also rolled 20 charm and luck.

    • @josesanchezart1244
      @josesanchezart1244 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Now this a layered joke 😂😂😂

    • @zeehero7280
      @zeehero7280 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and batman level prep but only for ghosts

  • @Grimes417
    @Grimes417 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +262

    I don’t know if this has any significance but Vlad’s hair turns white after the accident and stays that way in his human form where as in his ghost form it reverts back to the original color but for Danny it’s the opposite. Idk if there’s a reason for this but perhaps Danny is more human in his human form and Vlad is more ghost in his human form.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      I chalk it up to whatever improvements Jack made over the years with the portal.

    • @emeraldpichu1
      @emeraldpichu1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      Besides, using imagery to create opposites, it probably has to do with the fact that Danny got his powers instantly from the overwhelming flow of energy, but Vlad was slowly infected overtime until it reached a critical point and the ghost half formed

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      @@emeraldpichu1 This is possible. And likely early in the 20 year gap since Vlad said he had "years of practice".

    • @jovenc4508
      @jovenc4508 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Vlad also turns green, has pointed ears and is buffer in his ghost form. It's probably just a stylistic choice while also keeping with "negative" look the ghost form creates. Like how Danny's suit was originally white with black belt and shoes but when he's turned into a ghost it's black with white belt and shoes.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jovenc4508 Vlad's blue. Unless I'm (semi) colorblind and can't see it.

  • @vm141789
    @vm141789 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

    "Can you help us find and _peck_ to death--"
    That line was always just so funny to me. Also a little surprising Nickelodeon would let them say that.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Yeah, they supposedly weren't allowed to say it on Avatar or something which encouraged them to come up with brilliant lines like Azula saying "I'm about to celebrate becoming an only child!"

    • @bassplayer2011ify
      @bassplayer2011ify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you go back and watch the cartoons from the 90s and early 2000s you will see and hear a lot of creative things that got past censors. Either through creative writing or fighting for something that absolutely would not fly and the censors overlooking what they really wanted. Spongebob in particular was very good at this.

  • @raidenstark315
    @raidenstark315 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    I can see the strong comicbook influence on vlad's origin.
    Was inspired by doctor doom's origin when reed's portal exploded on victor's face desfigurating him

    • @dejaypage1575
      @dejaypage1575 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      It’s not Reed’s portal, it was Doom’s

    • @Inventorcoyote
      @Inventorcoyote 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Yeah Reed doubted it and since Doom is has an infinity sized he convinced himself Reed sabotaged it

    • @bassplayer2011ify
      @bassplayer2011ify 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There were definitely comic fans on the writing team. The reality gauntlet is basically the infinity gauntlet.

    • @raidenstark315
      @raidenstark315 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bassplayer2011ify also you can see how mister fantastic and the invisible woman influenced jack and maddie, explaining why they're scientist.
      Other influences i found:
      Danny is like a mix spiderman archetype with superman and franklin richards like powers
      Skulker was inspired by kraven the hunter with lobo's style.
      Technus was inspired by brainiac
      Johnny 13 was inspired by ghost rider (oriignially danny was supposed to have a bike as well)
      Sam is a mix of lois lane with gwen stacy (that explains the purple)
      King parahia was inspired by darkseid
      Dash was isnpired by flash thompson
      Valerie was inspired by harry osbourn
      Box ghost was isnpired with your classic goofy villians from the 60's like polka dotman, the eraser and more
      Dani phantom the clone was inspired by x-23 (a new character around the time the show was i production) mix with ben reily/scarlet spider
      Freak show's phenomens were inspired by the doom patrol
      Vortex was inspired by whirlwind (you can see how the design of both characters is similar)
      And dark dan was inspired by apocalypse and maestro hulk

    • @raidenstark315
      @raidenstark315 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bassplayer2011ify now in terms of storylines
      King pariah special was inspired by The Great Defiance on Apokolips.
      The dark dan dark future took influence from both days of the future past and age of apocalypse
      The clones vlad did of danny was inspired by the infamous clone saga
      When vlad became mayor was inspired by lex luthor as president storyline

  • @RahRizzle123
    @RahRizzle123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +120

    S1 overall was really good on introducing villains for the time, getting to know the main cast, and learning Danny's powers with him. Other then Bitter Reunions I adore My Brothers Keeper because it really starts you make your think more.
    Spectra knowing about Dannys ghost sense and blocking it out. Its the small things.
    I really miss this show

  • @alabastercrowe5574
    @alabastercrowe5574 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    In Danny Phantom: Ultimate Enemy, there was an alternate universe where Danny’s parents, sister, Tucker, and Sam were killed when they were trapped in Nasty Burger when it exploded. After the incident, Danny moved in with Vlad because he was the only one who knew about and understood his powers. Danny asked Vlad to remove his human self, because he didn’t want to deal with the guilt and grief he felt towards his family and friends (because he felt that their deaths were indirectly caused by his mistakes).
    Vlad agreed and it almost worked (he successfully separated Danny’s human and ghost selves), but Danny’s ghost self separated Vlad from his ghost self and fused with him. The ghost fusion became the evil Danny that Danny Phantom had to deal with in the episode.
    Edit: part of Shawn’s video claims that Vlad wanted Danny to be his son. In the ultimate enemy timeline, Vlad was willing to adopt Danny.

    • @michaelsarmiento3362
      @michaelsarmiento3362 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      You want to know something what Danny should have done to avert the events of The Ultimate Enemy: have Alicia meet Vlad and formed a romantic relationship with her. If you must know, Maddie has a sister named Alicia. She first appeared in the Danny Phantom episode "Prisoner of Love" where Maddie moves back to Arkansas because Jack forgot about his wedding anniversary with Maddie. Also, information about this character was that Alicia is bitter, single and alone and she is divorce from her husband.
      Here is the question: In the Danny Phantom episode, The Ultimate Enemy, after the death of Danny's friends and family at the Nasty Burger explosion and Danny moves in with Vlad, what about Alicia, Maddie's sister. Where was Alicia during the events of The Ultimate Enemy and why he never helped Danny? What is Alicia's reaction to her sister being dead? It would be interesting if, not only Danny moves in with Vlad on his castle, but also bringing Alicia with him to Vlad's castle so thet Alicia can meet Vlad. If Alicia was in The Ultimate Enemy, Alicia tries to convince Vlad not to go through of removing Danny's human emotion and they decide to help Danny recover from losing his family and friends and form a romantic relationship with each other. Plus, Danny and Vlad will show their ghost form to Alicia and tell them on how they acquire their ghost forms.

    • @alabastercrowe5574
      @alabastercrowe5574 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@michaelsarmiento3362I didn’t think of that. That would be an interesting concept.

    • @windghost2
      @windghost2 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@michaelsarmiento3362I think a tragic thing about Vlad is that he never moved on from Maddie and kept obsessing over her for 20 years straight, so I believe him getting with Alicia (I actually forgot about her so thanks for reminding me lol!) would've helped him finally move on and find genuine love in someone else.

    • @alabastercrowe5574
      @alabastercrowe5574 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@otdreamer193yeah. In the episode, Jack, Maddie, Jazz, Tucker, and Sam were in a memorial statue together. While Mr. Lancer had a separate memorial statue.😅

    • @alabastercrowe5574
      @alabastercrowe5574 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelsarmiento3362I also guessed that Alicia’s marriage to her ex husband was horrible or possibly abusive, because she was grateful that Maddie remembered and threw a party celebrating her divorce anniversary.

  • @dr.calibrations7984
    @dr.calibrations7984 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    Ill never forget when i asked my dad to help with my homework. He looked at the paper, made a face, looked at it for a while longer, and finally said, "I'm sorry, but you have gone past what I know. I can't help you with this."

    • @art23428
      @art23428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What's that gotta do with anything

    • @CodenamePrince
      @CodenamePrince 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@art23428 Themes and video talks about bonding with family

  • @patcahill3724
    @patcahill3724 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +113

    Danny Phantom is one of the best 2000s cartoons in my opinion, it defined the 2000s, and I also loved the interactions between Vlad Masters and Jack Fenton. And when anytime Danny possesses his father, Jack now sounds like him just sounds very hilarious to me.

  • @Zacman1123
    @Zacman1123 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +96

    39:27 yeah don't even get me started on that. There were LOTS of times during Middle/High school where my mother's advice on something just did not work especially bullying cause she apparently was never bullied in school. Or she complains about something but if i do she basically says "get over it." I'm Autistic and we found out when i was 16 and despite knowing for almost 13 years, she still refuses to admit that my mind works differently.
    Also i hate to be that guy but if you watched Danny Phantom when it was new, Vlad being part ghost wouldn't have been a surprise because Nickelodeon spoiled it in the preview for this episode when it was coming out.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I remember this.

    • @Alex_Barbosa
      @Alex_Barbosa 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I was trying to figure out what plot twist the title of the video was referring to.
      If it's that, it's not a plot twist, the show does literally everything it can to show you Vlad is the villain.

    • @Wendy_O._Koopa
      @Wendy_O._Koopa 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You _do_ realize that the video title is sarcasm, right? It's the twist that was broadcasted so hard that basically _everyone_ saw it coming? That's the joke?

  • @WilliamSyler
    @WilliamSyler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    In the episode "Masters of All Time," we find a timeline where Jack was in the victim of the accident and turned into Jack Plasmius. This indicates to me that there was a Plasmius entity who came through with the ecto-acne, and the accident caused whoever was on the other end to fuse with them to gain a ghost half. That could've easily had an affect on anyone's mind, especially with 20 years to fester. Either way, he's still an awful villain.

    • @dooplon5083
      @dooplon5083 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Awful as in terribly written?

    • @WilliamSyler
      @WilliamSyler 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@dooplon5083 As in an awful person.

  • @Wolfylink
    @Wolfylink 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

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    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you so much for you donation and support, friend!!!! I really appreciate it. :D
      That sounds like a super complicated procedure! I'm so glad that my videos help keep the mood bright while you're hard at work :)

  • @hitlowftw9804
    @hitlowftw9804 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Babe wake up Shaun dropped a new video.... and it's Danny Phantom!! Keep it up with this amazing content my friend

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Heheheheh there's my Flying Dutchman with the "babe wake up" comment!!! :D
      Thank you so much, friend! I appreciate you a ton. Can't wait to read this in an upcoming SuperThanks Sunday!

  • @jacobgillingham6602
    @jacobgillingham6602 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +77

    There is an episode that shows what would happen if Jack was the one who turned into a half human and ghost hybrid would be a good sequel to this episode on your channel

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      He's doing The Ultimate Enemy. But yeah, this would be another good one.

    • @greatmyths86
      @greatmyths86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @Jacobgillingham6602: I've always wondered what it would've been like and how it would've been as if it were Maddie who got the ghost powers instead. Jack and Vlad had both felt that same about her. In the normal timeline after Vlad got the ecto-acne and the
      ghost powers, not only was he hospitalized and having ruined his social life, he had become bitter and remained single, but in the alternate timeline with having it be Jack instead with getting the ecto-acne and him with the same ghost powers that Vlad originally
      had. It was the same thing with Jack as it was for Vlad. Because with Jack, he had remained bitter and single like Vlad. But if it were to happen Maddie, then I wonder how it would be if say she was hospitalized with the ecto-acne and got the ghost powers. If she
      was to remain single and bitter, I'd think if Jack and Vlad had both moved on for themselves without Maddie, and had maybe found different wives, then I'd like to see how Maddie would've been like all for those matters, as to if that were to happen with Maddie instead of Jack nor Vlad. 🤔... I've always wondered about how that would've been like... 🤔... hmm... any thoughts on anything with that theory whatsoever??

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@greatmyths86 This would be interesting.....She probably would have been pissed at Jack. And at least possibly questioning whether pairing off with him would be right. If Jack felt the same way or even if they were already dating at that point (and Vlad didn't know yet), it would have crushed him. He would have felt like scum and rethought his ways. And eager for a chance to prove/redeem himself with Maddie.
      As for Vlad. It depends. On one hand, if his feelings for her were shallow enough, he probably would have gotten over Maddie then and tossed her aside while maybe still being friends with Jack. Unless he messed up another way somehow, like maybe insulting Maddie when seeing that Jack still cares for her. I could just as easily see Vlad visiting her in the hospital a bunch and trying to win her over instead of listening to her and caring for her as a person. MAYBE Maddie's taken in at first, but I could could likely see her being first inwardly, than outwardly repulsed at Vlad's self serving modus operandi and her rejecting him as both a friend and a prospective boyfriend.
      So three ways: 1. Maddie is taken in by Vlad's manipulative charm in the hospital and she pairs off with him, similar to the Jack Plasmius (should be Phantom) timeline 2. Jack works his ass off to make it up to Maddie, preparing for the possibility she could dismiss him for good at any time, Maddie sees that Jack has changed and will be less reckless, and they end up together anyway (And Jack is turned on at the idea of doing it with his now half ghost girlfriend/fiancee/wife. :p Assuming they don't just try to find a cure for her and succeed.) 3. Maddie rejects both of them and deals with her pain away from them somehow, some kind of way. This is a wildcard and even I can't think of much beyond this.

  • @meganshaw1987
    @meganshaw1987 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    In regards to the King, I find it mysterious that he died and Vlad was able to get his property. After which he invited the Phaetons to stay there and tried to have Jack killed before arriving. This makes me think that Vlad wanted Maddie to arrive widowed (single) so he could get a second chance at her. It also makes me suspect that he’s got even more twisted goals, methods and dreams then given credit for as it’s implied that Vlad either knew more about the King’s death then he was letting on or worse, had a strong hand in it. And as for Jazz in that last scene, I saw it a little differently from her point of view. Yes part of it is she’s being a know-it- all, but she also grew-up with her parents who were obsessed with ghosts and the supernatural, so she’s probably developed a level of dislike for such topics. Growing up there were probably many times that she was likely embarrassed by her parents for their profession and their reputation as not many people deal with those topics let alone have parents that deal with those topics. So when in front of her peers and knowing who her parents were the subjects of her parents profession and reputation was uncomfortable and most likely got her made fun of or meanly teased. In addition to that Jazz was also probably used to having such chaos around her after being brought-up in such a household and was the way that she came to cope with dealing with such issues. And lastly she just had to go on a trip with her family that she likely didn’t want to go on, had to stay in a haunted castle and had to stay with a real creep who constantly hit hard on her mom. So, yeah Jazz is being a pain, but it’s not without reason.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      It's like the implication with Bradford and Duckworth.
      Vlad would have also have had to account for at least four more things: 1. Maddie moving the family to her sister's. 2. Maddie's sister moving to Amity Park to be with them. 3. Maddie staying in Amity Park and restructuring the family business to stay afloat with her as the sole employee/boss, assuming she doesn't hire help to fill Jack's spot. (She'd even have extra money to pay them with him gone.) Or 4. Maddie moving to/taking in someone else on EITHER her or Jack's side of the family. This isn't like Danny in The Ultimate Enemy. If Jack were to meet his demise somehow, Maddie (likely) has options outside of Vlad to choose from. ESPECIALLY if she's creeped out by him. Vlad would either have to account for these, or be blindsided by them.

    • @michaelsarmiento3362
      @michaelsarmiento3362 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@kagemaru397You are referring to Alicia, right, Maddie's sister from the episode "Prisoner of Love."

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@michaelsarmiento3362 Yes. It's been so long, I forgot her name.

  • @NimhLabs
    @NimhLabs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    Okay the thing with Jazz' advice. She literally said that stuff _after_ their Mom said "that is the oldest excuse in the book" suggesting something along the lines they used the same excuse as kids. With Jazz' statements being, "okay, then prove it"... but in a _very_ diplomatic manner
    In the case of Jazz trying to be a parent to Danny... that is something you expect with parents that are... uh... not particularly good at being parents. And the Fenton parents are _very_ bad parents
    In the case of the "of course she was fired, she was posting crackpot stuff"... the _only_ evidence of "Ghosts" is somebody was flying. With this world having demonstrated that there is different sets of high-tech stuff. With the flying stuff likely being able to be chalked up to some new tech that Tucker likely would geek out over
    As per her being bad at psychology... she is a kid. At her age, you've not had enough time to _not_ be terrible at psychology. Remember about how in order to be good at something, you gotta start off being not really that good at stuff
    It should be noted that _After_ Jazz is aware of ghosts... she is usually the one that is able to come up with cover up stories for what happened. The twelve time she is able to blame it on weather balloons, she gets an ice cream sundae! Most of her cover up stories are very easy to point out issues with them. So, that kind of puts her disbelief of the flying stuff as understandable

    • @MeepChangeling
      @MeepChangeling 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And that evidence... isn't even evidence. "So I saw this happen!" isn not admissable evidence in court because, well, Ancedotal Evidence is drek. No one cares. If this story had been in the modern era and like 4 people filmed it then MABEY people might accept that as evidence (more than likely they would say it's an art project using SFX).

    • @lucimonvet
      @lucimonvet 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thank you, I was getting annoyed when they went on about the big picture as if the characters at the time could even know. Then going on about the advice jazz gave being terrible. With what she knew that was good advice especially for being their first born who probably had to raise herself she tries to raise her brother because she knows her parents already can't. She didn't dismiss what Danny was going through like their parents did she offered a way for their parents to talk about their childhood like if they ever got grounded for being a few minutes late to curfew. She goes to highschool with him she probably sees and or hears what's happening with him in school. And when she finds out about his powers they grow even more closer because he feels safe to talk to her openly unlike his parents

  • @SamHammie
    @SamHammie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    35:45 To be fair, I hadn't realized the flaw in Vlad wearing a suit in the middle of the night either. You just see him in a suit and bow tie so much that it feels immediately natural, and the fact that he _is_ a rich and eccentric man makes it feel totally feasible that he'd change in the middle of the night just to go pee before returning to bed with the sole purpose being to avoid not looking fancy while he has house guests. It kinda feels in character for him to just _be_ that eccentric, which is why I think Danny, and potentially even a good majority of the audience, thought nothing of it without it being pointed out directly - I surely didn't.
    44:25 Also, I didn't think twice about the "Can you do this yet?", either. Just goes to show you that, when a show is written really well, they can distract the people who aren't nit-picking through their content as a career from the obvious flaws, and that just makes the episode even more impactful for people.

    • @TheLetterJ0
      @TheLetterJ0 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It probably helps that a lot of cartoons have kind of trained viewers to expect characters to almost always be in the same outfits. Even in that scene, Jack is still wearing his jumpsuit under his nightgown. So we just brush aside the fact that Vlad's clothes don't fit the situation as "of course that's what he's wearing, that's what he always wears."

  • @khankorpofficial
    @khankorpofficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +95

    The fact that Jack wasn't ARRESTED is a major plot hole
    Realistically no one would get away with something like that

    • @SaiOkami777
      @SaiOkami777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The FBI wouldve been all over Jack

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@SaiOkami777 My guess? Vlad fended them off somehow. There's a risk that HE would be found out there, and he couldn't have that at this point in the series.

    • @draconicdemigod9696
      @draconicdemigod9696 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      Well ghosts are proven real in this world and Jack did say he was possessed. People wouldn't have no reason to believe him especially since he is a known ghost hunter.

    • @khankorpofficial
      @khankorpofficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@kagemaru397 I'm talking about high school when he severely injured Vlad

    • @greatmyths86
      @greatmyths86 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @khankorpofficial: Well, you know. Instead of Vlad planning and seeking revenge after the sake of 20 years and setting out to kill and exile Jack, maybe if Vlad had just called the police later on or just had someone in the hospital know about what happened and report
      the accident. Then they could've had some investigation for what happened in their college homeroom and the true evidence they'd find would be the diet cola instead of supposedly ecto-pureIfier left on their shelf on the wall, If Jack had been arrested,
      maybe Vlad would've had his chance to get with Maddie that is if Maddie say, felt sorry for what happened to Vlad, and as if she couldn't stand Jack for almost killing him. And not wanting to be involved with someone who may
      be identified as a dangerous outlaw and or a killer dangerous death trap that was blasted on high and full power all being caused by the mistakenly used by diet cola instead of ecto-purifier all for that matter... So, Yeah! That's my theory on that from what you just said there...

  • @dustinhatfield8373
    @dustinhatfield8373 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't think Jasmine was dismissing the ghost attack happened, I think she was just saying of course a reputable news source wouldn't post a story about it

  • @Jesus-hu4lq
    @Jesus-hu4lq 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    That's my favorite part of the episode when skulker gets excited for his upgrades

  • @BradenBest
    @BradenBest 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Vlad not realizing that a ghost who he knows is named "Danny Phantom" is the same person as the kid of the guy he holds a grudge against named "Danny Fenton" who looks just like the superhero, is an extra layer of absurdity over Superman, because at least when Clark Kent takes off his glasses and people somehow don't see the blatant resemblance, he doesn't _also_ go by an extremely similar name like Clark Dent.

  • @monobro141
    @monobro141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Jack may be dumb sometimes but bro made Danny Phantom and Vlad Plasmus two of the most powerful ghosts in existence plus a device to summon and on to capture them he needs more credit love how this show played around with the "dumb parents" idea and actually had them be geniuses that screw up sometimes

    • @lpfan4491
      @lpfan4491 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it is just a major case of very selective smarts and competency. Like, technically you can be a master of psysics while not knowing that taxes exist. That kind of thing.

  • @wilderac2250
    @wilderac2250 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a kid who grew up in Wisconsin, when I first saw this episode mention so many Wisconsin things, I got so excited for some reason.

  • @racheljackson4428
    @racheljackson4428 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    I would love to see a lego set of Vlad Plasmuis mansion. it's such a iconic location in Danny Phantom.
    Can you do a retropective on The Ultimate enemy, the episode that tackles the Butterfly Effect.

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I’d buy the hell out of a Vlad’s mansion Lego set! That’s straight up genius!
      And yeah! That vid is definitely coming in the future. 😁 thanks for watching, friend!!!

    • @kieferfulsom4432
      @kieferfulsom4432 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Okay, they had a ghost theme a few years ago called “Hidden Side” the felt very Danny Phantom inspired, I’d love to see a Danny Phantom Lego set as well.

  • @PotatoSaladjr
    @PotatoSaladjr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    Omggg, I genuinely forgot that this show had an overarching plot. It’s all coming back to me now and you’re right, it was SO GOOOOOOOOOD. 👻

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Right??? When I remembered the plot, I KNEW I had to talk about this show. The foreshadowing and continuity is just perfect!!!
      Thanks for watching, friend! I appreciate your support. :D

  • @williambrown4138
    @williambrown4138 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like how the episode "Masters of All Time" explores the what-if timeline if it was Jack who got in the accident instead of Vlad. Throughout the episode its clear that Vlad was always evil, and that the only thing the accident did was give power to that. He did end up with Maddie, but its hinted at that he got with her through psychological manipulation (the fact Vlad told Maddie that Jack was on the hunt to kill her so they had to be secluded together).

  • @KamiNoBaka1
    @KamiNoBaka1 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I don't think I knew anyone who watched Danny Phantom when this originally aired who didn't immediately know the "mysterious ghost" was Vlad. It's like one of the most obvious reveals ever, especially since they talked about his accident with the ghost portal prototype.

  • @Animus_Altia
    @Animus_Altia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One of the little things that I always appreciated was that brief moment that Jack struggles against Vlad's control. Man has been possessed plenty of times before and after this, but the time that it happens that is remotely dangerous to Maddy, he manages to be aware of the control and resist it for a few seconds in order to warn his wife. It's impressive, and I always loved that detail.

  • @chaosbean6320
    @chaosbean6320 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    41:33 in jazz's defence, you can read her statement as "of course she got fired, ghost stories arent believable" which is true. Its very easy to believe she got fired because if something similar happened in real life, id fully expect someone to be fired as well

  • @ShadyRK9
    @ShadyRK9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    One of my favorite Nickelodeon shows! Wish they hadn't cancelled it so soon! Also I had kind of a crush on Amber and Desiree as a kid!
    Although unfortunately the creator Butch Hartman years later would later tried to backpedal and say that the "Ghost" was actually monsters from another dimension! EVEN though ghost like Desiree, Point Dexter, and Amber was 100% confirmed to have been humans at one point before dying with their backstory! 💢

    • @lisaswayne8241
      @lisaswayne8241 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This show shoulda lasted forever

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      I agree! It was a bummer to see it cancelled so soon…
      Butch Hartman though… ugh. Don’t get me started on that guy 🙄 he’s not the guy I thought he was when I was a kid… that’s for sure!!!
      Alsoooo, your superthanks shout out is going to be in this Sundays video! 😁
      You rock, ShadyRK9. I appreciate you.

    • @ShadyRK9
      @ShadyRK9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@DuskTillShawn Yeah. Fairly Odd Parents, and Danny Phantom is his 2 best shows that'd later get kinda ruined by him in someway.
      Also thanks! Love your channel! It reminds me of a simpler time when me and my mother would watch these shows together. And today's also even her birthday!
      Keep up the good work!

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      It would have been good to see a Season 4, but I'm kinda glad it didn't happen. Under Butch. He's an idiot and a grifter, plus Season 3 wasn't handled that well. He probably would have further run it into the ground like Fairly Odd Parents.

    • @khankorpofficial
      @khankorpofficial 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DuskTillShawn lole you talk about him like he's some sex trafficker or something

  • @thatrealycoolguy
    @thatrealycoolguy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    “Jack’s carelessness” Okay but Vlad was shoving his face in the damn thing.

  • @seandohe9979
    @seandohe9979 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    11:54 To be fair. The wind up on the punch was so long and so telegraphed. Bro could have gotten some snacks, drinks and spoiled the ending before catching that hand.

  • @Richard_Frost
    @Richard_Frost 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Disagree with you about how Vlad is acting like it was his right to be with maddie @29:45 ... In fact, that goes against everything we've seen from Vlad in this episode. He doesn't want to FORCE Maddie to be with him against her will, he just wants to have the CHANCE to possibly be with her, that he feels he missed out on having the possibility of exploring due to Jack's negligence and injuring him and removing him from the equation.
    Which is also pretty fair of him to feel that way, but it's also still not right for him to try and sabotage their relationship and break up their family just because he never got to shoot his shot and see where it could have gone, and definitely not right for him to attack others and try to frame Jack for it. That's something that's really good about the writing of this villain here actually, that despite being the antagonist, Vlad is 100% understandable and able to be sympathized with, despite knowing he's also going to far and in the wrong for what he's doing. He's a complex character, and incredibly well written for a kids cartoon.

  • @KevinTheKevinable
    @KevinTheKevinable 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    While I appreciate all of your work done editing this video, I can't help but mention the episode when Danny tried to undo Vlad's accident through time travel. In that timeline, Jack became the hybrid but lost Maddie who had married Vlad. So, clearly they both had equal shots.

    • @KirbyChan
      @KirbyChan 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It was more along the lines of Vlad lied to her, saying that Jack was a threat. But Vlad kept her away from her passion, which was Ghosts. She wanted to study them but he wouldn't let her so she did it in secret. She wasn't happy with him but probably felt she had no choice since she thought that Jack was after her for revenge.

  • @sgtNACHO
    @sgtNACHO 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thw "Back in my day" argument isnt that nothing has changed. But the important things that you look back on are universal. You think back to high school and remember tough classes, crazy drama, not fitting in, bad teachers, club activities, first girlfriend etc. These things DONT change. The world is always changing but humans stay the same. Classes might change but your classmates and teachers are still the same homo sapiens.

  • @beckhamsreviews3733
    @beckhamsreviews3733 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    RIP Martin mull his voice as vlad was so good and he made me hate him as principal kraft in Sabrina the teenage witch so u did a good job on both nick shows

  • @johnte94
    @johnte94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Loved this Danny Phantom breakdown. It’s my favorite nicktoon. Can’t wait for more down the line.

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for watching, friend!!! I’ve got a really cool plan for a few videos that will continue where this one left off 😊

  • @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985
    @sapphirewingthefurrycritic985 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Vlad is probably one of the most complex villains for Nickelodeon, at least for the more light hearted show he was in. I think the graphic novel breaks down his character better than anything else.

  • @bramblechaser162
    @bramblechaser162 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One of the best things about the show is the fact that it was episodic but still have an over arching story to it

  • @StarlasAiko
    @StarlasAiko 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Jazz having this now-it-all attitude is not only a Psuychology thing, it is also a Teenager thing. I may be old, but unlike most adults my age (are willing to admit), I remember well what I and my peers were like at her age. Teenagers start to be insufferable know-it-alls starting about age 15. While the world and teenage problems may change constantly, teenage attitudes tend to be pretty much constant, generation after generation.

  • @Xenronnify
    @Xenronnify 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My absolute favorite line from this entire show is "can you help us find, and peck to death, this guy here?"

  • @DrakeWurrum
    @DrakeWurrum 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think Jazz was trying to trick their parents into getting distracted by nostalgia of their youth and lay off Danny, rather than giving legit advice.
    Common tactic for children in cartoons, if not reality.

  • @DBArtsCreators
    @DBArtsCreators 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What I find interesting about Vlad is that, in the alt-timeline where Jack becomes half-ghost instead of Vlad, Vlad marries Maddie & still gains both the castle and immense wealth. Implies that he never needed the ghost powers to become a success (and that he was technically right - if not for Jack's blunder, there was at least a chance that he would have gained Maddie's affections and and had a genuine relationship with her - especially since, iirc, he never tried to harm ghost-Jack in that timeline until prime-timeline Danny got involved and he realized Danny was going to try and set things back onto the path where Vlad become his evil-ghost self. Shows that he always had a nugget of evil, but that he was never all-evil).

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I guess Vlad was always annoyed by Jack's stupidity, but he tried to be a good friend and keep their friendship. And honestly, he didn't seem all that evil before season 3 ruined everything, he was just broken and didn't recover to start his own family.
      In my opinion, the show blew up the potential of Maddie divorcing with Jack and moving into Vlad's domain since he's the most trusted man she knows. Perhaps we could see Vlad's genuine care and support instead of unhealthy obsession and big ego.
      Plus, it would've been awesome if Jack realized what a pathetic fool he is, quit ghosthunting and decided to find a new job to get Maddie back.
      Such a shame Vlad's introduction episode ruined his ghost secret. If anything he certainly didn't need to destroy any potential relationship with his "son" and it would've been much more interesting if they both weren't aware of their ghost identities and were arch enemies while being on good terms as humans.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ashesGeek That would have been interesting to see. That last part.
      Pass on Maddie leaving Jack. She always loved him. Flaws and all. And he loved her underneath it all himself. Vlad always had problems, but unlike Danny after The Ultimate Enemy, never resolved to fix them.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Assuming they weren't already dating but keeping it from him.

    • @ashesGeek
      @ashesGeek 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @kagemaru397 I understand, the show was already soap opera enough with pointless DannyXSam teasing when it would've been more interesting if they became a couple early on(ship teasing until the finale is one of the worst and most pathetic attention baits in media).
      But it wouldn't have been that bad idea if Maddie actually began to question if her relationship with Jack is that healthy. Obviously everything would come back to normal, but since Jack and Maddie weren't given development throughout the show at least such plot would've been something interesting.
      I only was introduced to the show and binged it this year, but apart from the mess that was season 3 I questioned myself why Vlad couldn't just clone Maddie if he tried to do that with Danny. Since he had holograms and AI imitating her it would've been his main priority logically. It's also a shame he didn't have any vampire powers when he obviously looked like one, the "occultist" Nickelodeon excuse cracked me up hard when I heard this especially when it's the same studio that gave foot fetish loving creep a chance to fulfill his darkest desires.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @eek Yeah, Danny and Sam could have been handled better as much as I shipped them since Day 1. AND Sam should have gotten better development. When do you think they SHOULD have gotten together if at all?
      I feel like the thing with Maddie and Jack questioning things was more or less done in the episode she left to be with her sister for a while. So it DID happen, just within an episode. I do feel too like they should have been developed more. Maybe making their marriage troubles into an arc would have been better. ESPECIALLY since them and their family's way of life more or less depends on them being/staying married. They're the bosses/sole employees of their own business which is likely what keeps their family afloat.
      As for Vlad not cloning Maddie, my guess is that he wanted the real thing. I can take or leave the vampire powers, and yeah, Dan Schneider's all sorts of terrible. AND had a similar problem to Butch. Can't write for shit without a team and had shows suffer as a result of this.

  • @evanrosman9226
    @evanrosman9226 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Many people saw it coming. The commercial spoiled it.

  • @this_is_japes7409
    @this_is_japes7409 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    33:06 we have seen other attempts Vlad has gone for Maddie and Danny again after this incident and Maddie has specifically told Danny not to tell Jack about it, so perfectly possible.

  • @Magmaster13
    @Magmaster13 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I don't get why Harriet got called out as a crackpot when there were numerous witnesses.

  • @geofff.3343
    @geofff.3343 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This is perhaps the worst video essay I've ever had to sit through. Not from a production value or presentation standpoint, but from a structural standpoint. You start the essay with the thesis that Danny Phantom has a twist that no one saw coming. Title's a little hyperbolic, but it's a thesis that you're going to support. You open up by discussing the rarity of multi-season or longform plot revelations and development. Next move is correct, you set the groundwork for presumably why someone might not see some later revelation that planted. But then you spend way too long recapping the episode. So I expected you to go to some later point in the series with some payoff, but you're telling me Vlad's introductory episode has twists that "no one could see coming"?
    My guy, they literally don't twist anything. It's not a twist. I knew Vlad was the bad guy from his intro when I first watched the episode and I was the target demographic when the show aired. It is not a great twist, it's textbook. Sure this has some continuity, but it's not overarching plot continuity. You're conflating arcs and multi-episode work for callback gags in a lot of the case. That is a form of continuity, but not what people mean, and then you end the essay on a cliffhanger. They don't foreshadow anything, they telegraph it.
    Then you go off on character rants that aren't really material to any twists just you know, the standard practice of character development, which I'd hope a show has, even a kid show. I generally think the monster-of-the-week formula was kind of headed out the door at the time of Danny Phantom, but lots of shows had that level of continuity you pointed out in this essay, including Fairly Odd Parents.
    Maybe it's my misplaced expectations, but I just don't see season one of any show having a twist that could blindside an audience to the implied degree. If you had pointed out something in the season one episode that paid off down the line that would have made this an enjoyable watch, but right now it's mostly someone recapping an episode by describing what's happening on the screen for half its runtime, half the remainder is tangential rants. You've got maybe fifteen minutes of transformative content in a forty minute video.
    Enjoy the engagement, but this is the worst I've seen in the space.
    It would have been a BIGGER twist if Vlad wasn't a ghost villain and HADN'T gotten ghost powers and was more of a Lex Luthor type character, but you had to be asleep not to see what they were laying down in that episode.

  • @azinyefantasy4445
    @azinyefantasy4445 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    According to butch hartman they wanted dannys cousin to absorb Vlad and become evil danny since in this timeline he didnt go down that route.
    It was gonna be a huge showdown of her, danny, that black chick no one remembers and then dannys wedding to her.
    So Vlad canon dies in the series. Let that sink in. An actual death in the show

  • @caitlynsoto4863
    @caitlynsoto4863 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    If you ever do another Danny Phantom, can you do it on that one episode (I don't know the name) where an older version of Danny was the villain? Or do you already do one? Either way, I just love your voice and videos!

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Yesssss!!
      Originally, that’s what this video was going to be about. But I felt like starting here and building up to that one was a really fun idea. I love the idea of doing like a multi-part Danny Phantom video series that has its own overarching story of sorts. 😊
      I’m excited to cover that episode, it was so good.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @llShawn The Ultimate Enemy is definitely a worthy episode to cover.

    • @devereauxrobxyahoo
      @devereauxrobxyahoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kagemaru397- probably one of the darkest episodes in Nick’s tenure lol. Danny’s ghost half straight kills his human half…

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@devereauxrobxyahoo Yeah. Between this, and Donnie's parents being killed by poachers, 90s Nick has nothing on these as far as dark scenes.

  • @bigdoubleu117
    @bigdoubleu117 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd say I slightly disagree with the older generations making light of modern time kids.
    Yes, the world is constantly changing, but at its core, our parents had the same struggles regardless. Puberty, popularity, a crush, rejection, break ups etc. I don't think being in advanced math is what the show or irl parents are going for.

    • @blueraccoon1088
      @blueraccoon1088 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      AGREED!

    • @Animus_Altia
      @Animus_Altia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Still, it's important then for parents (speaking as one) to try to relate their experiences to those of their children as best they can rather than drawing broader platitudes.

  • @saugusandsausages
    @saugusandsausages 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    What a treat! I’ve been revisiting Danny Phantom lately too. This show had some insane, yet memorable villains.

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What a coincidence!!! :D
      I love Danny Phantom. The shows writers did a great job with it. The creatively written villains were one of my favorite parts for sure!
      Thanks for watching, friend!

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DuskTillShawn Not as much in Season 3, but 1 and 2 fully agree.

    • @elmermedina1713
      @elmermedina1713 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Vlad, Pariah Dark, Fright Knight, Skulker, Ember, Youngblood, Desiree, Technus, Johnny 13, Shadow, Kitty, Spectra, Bertrand, Dark Danny, Klemper, Sidney Poindexter, Box Ghost, Undergrowth, Nocturne, Amorpho, Prince Aragon, Hotel Ra, what a rogues gallery.

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elmermedina1713 And the most menacing of all, Dan Phantom.

  • @hannahcrossett3415
    @hannahcrossett3415 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Thank you so much for bringing up Danny Phantom!!!!!!! Maybe you could look at how teenager Danny finds his place in both the human and the ghost worlds over time, how Danny develops in how he relates with others from episode 1, and Tucker's confidence maturity. :) I'd love to see someone bring those themes into having episodes of their own. While watching this show, those and other themes and character developments were drawing points for my friends and me. :)

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for watching, Hannah!!! I definitely want to make more videos about this show and those ideas are fantastic! I’ll add them to my list of videos to make. :D

  • @KevinG3699
    @KevinG3699 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man, I wish the creator of the show hadn't lost his mind.

  • @kompst_tu
    @kompst_tu 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I love the ending to this show. Was perfectly done and gave us everything we wanted to see. If they were ever to do a continuation of Danny Phantom, it should be about people who discover they can fuse themselves as half ghost and exploit it for their own gain, and the ghosts and the Phantom family have to fight it. Would be sick!

  • @RealMelodyHope
    @RealMelodyHope 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    8:56 Interestingly, the Green Bay Packers are the ONLY NFL team that is publicly owned!

  • @JasonBeam7
    @JasonBeam7 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Appreciate all the hard work you put into these videos!

  • @jokerofspades-xt3bs
    @jokerofspades-xt3bs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    love the video man, hope your day is good

  • @jennyb4543
    @jennyb4543 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    It's not nostalgic but I've recently discovered Owl House, and when you talk about what makes the story great, keeping the mystery without a cliff hanger, I thought of that. It is so great at balancing sci fi adventure with emotion with a little humor and horror. It's for kids so it's a little predictable but also keeps you interested to see how it all unfolds. But I think you'd like it and I'd love to hear your review of it.

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ve heard really good things about Owl House! I’ll have to check it out 😁

    • @kagemaru397
      @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DuskTillShawn I second this. Doubt you'll be disappointed.

  • @starvinmarvin1200
    @starvinmarvin1200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:13 can anyone else hear the theme song word for word at this moment? Just me? Cool.

  • @NostalgiaNerd777
    @NostalgiaNerd777 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    actually there is episode that goes through danny's accident in the ghost portal and how he got his ghost powers called "Memory Blank"

  • @theshenpartei
    @theshenpartei 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Now this video makes me want to read that Danny phantom comic that came out a couple years ago and just relive the memories of that show. Nick needs to make a sequel or follow up series maybe a Netflix series similar to five years later.

  • @Jerrell7321
    @Jerrell7321 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The wild part is even though Jack said he hasn’t spoken to Vlad since the accident, yet Vlad angrily states that he was hospitalized for years after the accident… Jack never visited his best friend after the accident HE created, while Vlad couldn’t even function.

  • @patcahill3724
    @patcahill3724 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    I suggest you to talk about the episode Aku's fairy tales from samurai jack next, it's my favorite episode of samurai jack and Aku was at his funniest and best in that episode in my opinion.

  • @blueraccoon1088
    @blueraccoon1088 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:35 Well, you might say he's "GOING THROUGH A PHASE!" 😆

  • @danieldonovan6386
    @danieldonovan6386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    There is an episode in the second season w that reverse Vlad and Jack roles that said a lot about both characters

  • @timlampers8610
    @timlampers8610 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    19:38 If I were in this position, I likely would have accepted.
    Like, Vlad already saved your life before (granted, he put you in the situation in the first place), and he currently has you in capitivity. For all you know, you are powerless to stop any of his plans; and you'll very likely make a powerful enemy even if you somehow manage to escape him. Not only does Vlad have leverage over you in the ghost-world, but also in the real world with his wealth and influence.

  • @adannacamacho
    @adannacamacho 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "I don't know what it's like to be an 18-year-old today." Well, at least in my school, D is now passing, and the majority of the assignments are on the computer.

  • @roonkolos
    @roonkolos 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I personally don't think Vlad tried to get Maddie after the accident
    I think the "yet" comment was moreso a "matter of time" kind of thing. Still thinks he can win her over but by showing her how much "better" her life would be with him. Or how he perceives better to be
    That's my interpretation at least

  • @captaingreenbud6610
    @captaingreenbud6610 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Jobs were different, cost of living was different" Holy crap was cost of living sooooooo different

  • @drew4252
    @drew4252 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    To be fair to Danny, Vlad didn't know he was fighting Danny at first either. And Danny's ghost form looks just like his human form

  • @Ghostifique
    @Ghostifique 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love your videos Shawn!! Keep up the good work!

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! I'm SO HAPPY today. All of 1 hour ago this video was still on copyright jail lmao. I didn't think I'd get to upload today.
      I'm so glad we're here. :D Thank you so much for watching, my friend!

  • @juliav.mcclelland2415
    @juliav.mcclelland2415 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yes, you HAVE to cover My Brother's Keeper! The best 22 minutes of western animation outside of Avatar: The Last Airbender!

  • @madiemakes
    @madiemakes หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The way Vlad didn't recognize Danny as a ghost reminds me of how people don't recognize Superman as Clark Kent if he wears glasses lmao

  • @CMR324
    @CMR324 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I want to say I've been a big fan of your videos; seeing these videos and you analyzing these cartoons brings me back to my childhood when I first watched these shows, and even now, years later, they hold a special place in my heart. This is off-topic, but I wish Nickelodeon made more specials; I remember the Hey Arnold, Invader Zim, and Rocko's Modern Life specials. We could've seen more of our favorite cartoons, and I would've been happy with just a few more specials, maybe to wrap up storylines and get closure to these characters and their worlds; I even heard rumors other Nickelodeon cartoons expanded universe planned, and they chickened out on it at the last minute. Oh well, there's always hope for the future.
    I wanted to talk about your theory about Vlad previously hitting on Maddie before episode Bitter Reunions, and she is keeping it a secret from Jack. That would fit both of their characters. Vlad really wants her for himself, and Maddie keeps Vlad's feelings towards her a secret from Jack because she fears Jack's reaction. Maddie said in the future episode that Jack has a jealous side and fears his overreaction, but I believe, as you said, she may want to preserve Jack's positive memories of his time in college and Vlad.
    Honestly, as much as I like this theory, I'm going to have to debunk it. When Vlad revealed his feelings towards Maddie in episode Maternal Instincts, she was repulsed by him ever since, and while she kept it a secret from her husband Jack, she made her feelings known to Vlad discreetly, and while Vlad saving Danny may have caused her to say that she's willing to let bygones be bygones, she continues to have a negative view on Vlad. In this episode, Maddie is more awkward around Vlad and with his flirting with him. My theory is that Maddie is not taking his flirting seriously; she treats him as an old friend who may flirt with her. I also believe that Maddie is awkward around Vlad because of the accident; she knows that Vlad has a good reason to resent her husband, is sympathetic towards him for suffering from the accident, and knows that Jack is oblivious to Vlad's negative feelings. Maddie probably hopes that maybe the two of them can make peace with each other but acknowledges to herself that it's also unlikely that Vlad can forgive Jack and accept that and wants to protect her husband's feelings in case Vlad makes it clear that he's not going to forgive Jack. Of course, when Vlad reveals that he always resents Jack for stealing her away from him, Maddie loses whatever sympathy, positive feelings, and friendship she has had with Vlad and hated him ever since.
    It's a good theory and fits both Vlad's and Maddie's characters, but it's unlikely to be true.
    I'm looking forward to seeing you analyze other Danny Phantom episodes, and I'm going to comment on your other videos.❤

  • @michaelsneddon4300
    @michaelsneddon4300 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    You sound like your reaching for that toxic incel statement, vlad didn’t say “that accident robbed me of finally getting Maddie to love me” he said it robbed him of his chance with her, obviously he didn’t just assume she’d end up with him, but he had the confidence to think he could of easily won her over if given the chance to impress her better then jack could have. This isn’t some incel thing, this is a classic love triangle situation that ended before it had time to grow into an actual race between the two guys

    • @thedoctor1350
      @thedoctor1350 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      He still grabbed her and wouldn’t let her go as if she could be forced to love him.

    • @ch4rb
      @ch4rb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We can tell you are an incel because you automatically approve of humiliating revenge when you don't get the affection you expected as a normal thing to do because of a love triangle. Lmao, it's classic incel 101 workbook page 81 "the incel does not catalogue incel behavior as incel, and calls others incels when disagreeing"

    • @GoodGrimace
      @GoodGrimace 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Every love triangle has a incel and a chad lol

  • @regulush0743
    @regulush0743 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Tbh I think a much better twist in the series is Ultimate Enemy and how it happens because it's given a better pacing after the explosion we are given time to breathe and showed albeit for a few moments Vlad showing empathy to Danny before the birth of the ultimate enemy in here Jack making Vlad a ghost just happens and then we cut to the present it's way too fast and lacks that lasting punch imo. This walked so ultimate enemy could run

  • @PhysicalSciences
    @PhysicalSciences 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Likewise, I'm a (29) y/o man and currently teach between 16 - 40 y/o's in college. Just the fact I still here people say dawg and cool is at least some encouragement that eleven-years out of high school hasn't made it too impossible to connect with my students in class

  • @KazmirRunik
    @KazmirRunik 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    A lot of this was taken up by the idea that things change across generations, and while that is true, the way you harp on it makes it seem like it was ALWAYS just ignorant for parents to weigh their children's current struggles against their own past struggles. The thing is, that sentiment from parents was a lot more true around the 2000s when Danny Phantom was on the air. The Web becoming a mainstream part of culture to the point that it supplants people's social experiences, it's changed the new generation's struggles entirely.
    You don't really see parents saying that they know exactly what their kids are going through anymore, not in the same way that parents used to do (like what you see in this decade-old show). The struggles of the newer generations are alien, and the parents know it. Some try to keep their kids off the Web entirely out of fear, some keep their hands off because they don't really know what to do, and some parents even become victims themselves to a lack of media literacy when faced with things they find on the Web.
    A parent of today saying that they know exactly what their kids are going through, that would be worth the outrage, but a parent back in the 2000s saying it? It wasn't so ignorant back then. Social media was Myspace, which teenagers would get on maybe 30 minutes out of a day, since you couldn't access it through the phone, in turn because smartphones weren't really established in those times. Culture mostly played out through the same mediums for decades, right up until social media & smartphones became a staple of mainstream culture. I get that the difference in struggles between generations is a very legitimate grievance especially now, but when you're looking back at people of the past, judging them by the standards of today puts a bit of a wrench in how you might perceive what they're thinking.

  • @Nahyougood29
    @Nahyougood29 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thanks!

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much for your support, my friend! I really appreciate it :D

    • @Nahyougood29
      @Nahyougood29 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DuskTillShawn ofcourse, keep up the content as long as it continues makes you happy

  • @kagemaru397
    @kagemaru397 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Vlad was always gonna be terrible. Because in all timelines except for the Dan Phantom one, he chose this. I think Jack does have on rose colored glasses with Vlad throughout the series (until the finale), and it IS very likely Vlad just tolerated him (to get to Maddie likely). Wish we'd seen more of their dynamic in the 80s and maybe even before. And how Maddie's sister fit into all of this. Maybe they were in a way the Danny and Jazz of their generation. In the timeline where Vlad marries Maddie instead, he treats her like an object and manipulates her. He sees her as a prize to be won and not a human with agency. If she wanted to, she would have gone for Vlad instead of Jack.
    It reminds me of the dynamic between Let, Julia, and Jegan in Rave Master. But with them, we get to see more of how things ended up the way they were. Let=Jack, Julia=Maddie, and Jegan=Vlad. Plus I was reading Rave Master around the time that Danny Phantom was on. (If anyone cares, I'm 32, 3 years older than Shawn, and this was between late 2004 and when the show ended in 2007. I would go on to read Rave until its own end in 2009.)
    I never noticed that Maddie appears literally and figuratively closer to Jack in the 80s. Hell, they may have even ALREADY been dating by then, but for some reason Vlad didn't know. (Maybe Maddie intentionally wanted to keep it a secret, having a bad feeling at least, or wanted to sneak around with Jack a bit for her own shits and giggles if Vlad wasn't a factor. Or it was Jack's idea to keep it a secret for whatever reason. Definitely nothing to do with Vlad since he didn't even realize until the end of the series Vlad was into Maddie and likely would have at least been more careful with this if he ever knew. Even if it is him. If so, that'd make them even MORE like the Rave Master trio.
    Vlad contacting Maddie...that'd be an interesting twist. I feel like Vlad would have been more subtle in trying to lure her from Jack back then. But if he WAS more up front, I could easily see Maddie keeping quiet so Jack remembers him as he was (to him) and not the traitor and (attempted) homewrecker he truly is. Also, women tend to feel uncomfortable talking about sexual harassment/unwanted advances. She could have just as easily felt gross about the whole thing and maybe was afraid of how one or both or EITHER would respond to Vlad being exposed. Afraid that Jack would think she was cheating or would flip out on her or him (which if this would have been when he was rich could have led to a ring of Hell), and/or even that he'd question if Danny and/or Jazz are actually his stepkids or not. Afraid that Vlad would go psycho on her, or Jack, or even Danny and/or Jazz if they'd been born at that point. (depending on when Vlad got out of the hospital, this was likely after those two were born) She could have been afraid for her career (even though she's her own boss by the mid 2000s), her birth family's judgement, society's judgement. Society is plain AWFUL to women who get creeped on.
    I chalk up Danny not realizing he was dealing with another half breed to the shock of it all. He WAS in the middle of a fight and didn't have time for TOO much thinking. As for Jazz, yeah, she had issues back then. But thankfully gets better. She thought she got it all, but got nothing. And ignored her own problems. Katara and Mako were the same way, but Jazz doesn't even have the excuse of dead/absentee parents. And she got out of the closest she would have come to this in the Dan Phantom debacle. Yeah, empathizing with Danny would have been better. It wasn't the 70s/80s anymore and things were different. I too think it's a load of crap to think like that. While there's universal things that never change about being a teenager/younger adult, it's different eras. I can't relate to my parents' generation of having typewriters in school and I can't relate to the generation of my classmates' kids having tablets in school.

  • @DraconicDuelist
    @DraconicDuelist 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    17:45 That is _not_ the voice I remember Skulker having... I thought he was closer to Dark Laser's modulated voice.

  • @kieferfulsom4432
    @kieferfulsom4432 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love this video. I remember watching this episode when it first aired and suspecting the Vlad was this mystery new ghost and how awesome it felt they quickly confirmed it. Something else I realize is looking at Jack, Maddie, & Vlad’s backstories it’s very similar to Dr Doom & Reed Richards in the Fantastic Four comics. The only difference being that in the comics Reed and Victor von Doom were roommates/colleagues in college. When Dr Doom tried to build a machine that would open a portal or try to view a portal to hell to save his mother’s soul (comic books). Reed notices the formula is wrong and tries to warn Doom who doesn’t listen. The machine malfunctions and explodes horribly disfiguring Dooms face and expelling him from the im university, despite this he would forever blame Reed Richards for this. Sometime after Reed would meet and fall in love with Sue Storm (who’s never met Doom prior to the Fantastic Four). Some more noticeable comparisons could be the green and gold color scheme (also great for Wisconsin), the fact that he has a mansion that is very obviously an ominously styled castle, plus both villains aren’t afraid to be a bit campy, dramatic, and theatrical.

  • @Firesgone
    @Firesgone 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    8:55 They got you hook line and sinker if they ever want to do stadium repairs lmao

  • @MrJay-nd1rg
    @MrJay-nd1rg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Heck yes and first I can’t wait for this new video. You’re awesome.

    • @DuskTillShawn
      @DuskTillShawn  11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Heyyo, first comment!!!!!
      Thanks so much for watching, friend! These early on comments help me a ton!

    • @MrJay-nd1rg
      @MrJay-nd1rg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DuskTillShawn no problem friend you’re my favorite TH-camr and your videos and commentary is the best

  • @terraventusaqua123
    @terraventusaqua123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I saw the video title, I thought we were gonna talk about The Ultimate Enemy.

  • @maccamachine
    @maccamachine 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome to see a video about this show man

  • @Lucifer96-pk5qn
    @Lucifer96-pk5qn 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m honestly surprised you didn’t go over the episode where jack actually got hit instead and jack became the half ghost. Liturally showing what would happen if it was jack instead of vlad.

  • @Hope4NewDay1
    @Hope4NewDay1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jazz's progression is pretty insane when you think about how she knew Danny's secret and during a certain episode her Danny got trapped in the future and at a certain point her friends, family and her would all die over the course of the next 10 years so she sent the boooomerang with a note into the ghost zone with the hopes that it would reach Danny 10 years from then while she waited it out.

  • @lightmaker5648
    @lightmaker5648 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I REALLY hope you end up going into a deep dive on Ultimate Enemy, I remember that being quite the big episode with a lot to unpack with it.

  • @Patrick-it8nk
    @Patrick-it8nk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dude getting to your section on "being a kid nowadays" hits home HARD for me. I became a parent at around 19, so I was really not too far removed from being a school age kid. Now my kids are in school, one about to go into middle school, and WOW things are different. They still have planners, much like we did, but they also are issued small laptops to do work at home. They do about half their homework on them, the other half being your classic paper homework. I'll say I do appreciate it more though, as the kids are like I was and constantly erasing and re-writing things on homework. Sometimes they'll mess up the paper, whereas on the computers they can just re-do it.

  • @shelbybayer200
    @shelbybayer200 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The funny thing is in an Altered Timeline
    Jack is the Evil Ghost and Vlad is with Maddie

  • @WiiFan-1300
    @WiiFan-1300 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    1:04 Dash MOANED?! 😱