I remember coming back from Paddington with my mother who had MS, osteo and rheumatoid arthritis. We'd been to Wembley for a football match and the trains coming back home to Swansea were packed as a result. We had seat reservations on a specific train, got on said train at one platform (cannot remember the number), as we sat down and got settled an announcement came that actually, this train wasn't going to be going anywhere and we needed to disembark and head to a platform at the other end of the station and oh, seat reservations weren't going to be valid on the new train! My mum and I were one of the last ones off as she couldn't cope with the pushing and shoving, we were walking down the platform slowly and my mother started to panic saying we were going to miss the train and we'd have to pay more money for another ticket. She gets tearful, as this happens a man approaches us and says 'Ladies you're not going to miss the train as I am the driver, stay here and I will get some assistance for you!'. He brought someone back with a wheelchair for my mother and walked with us to the new train where he put us on in First Class and okayed it with the crew so we wouldn't be charged extra, apologised for what had happened and probably got in a lot of trouble as he delayed the train for us. Never forget it.
For the benefit of any yanks etc. The 225 has a max speed of 225 km/hr and 125 125 mph. Confusing isn’t it using metric and imperial kind of at random.
Well done lads. Thanks for uploading the video that shows people who care. The passenger could well have been an old person who was confused. Anyone who is around people who are confused and challenged will know how this could have happened. The drivers and guards had the correct attitude here. Another example of why we need guards on trains. Although the accountant/economists who run businesses don't see our real world. Best run companies are run by people who made their way up. Not straight from a world of theory and statistics.
@@elton1981 Luckily we've got the four-car plus two power car (refurbished without slam doors) versions running between Cardiff and Taunton running many times a day. I catch them regularly and enjoy every minute, even if "how the mighty are fallen" they are now employed on a "local stopping service". I well remember seeing the prototype at Stapleton Road station in the mid 70s, and then regularly taking an HST to Paddington shortly afterwards (I can even remember the foam in the corridor connections before that was condemned and replaced). Happy days.
There’s also an Aussie Version known as the “XPT”, It’s the same basic design concept but heavily modified / redesigned. Basically an “Off the Shelf” HST wasn’t suitable for our tracks, gradients, Curves, Climate etc. So the basic design was taken and tweaked to suit the Australian conditions, If you do a quick search on TH-cam for “XPT by Comeng” there’s a 3 part series about it being built and tested and it’ll mention a few of the differences and it’s still in service today and should be for at least another decade.
Shouldn't have stopped the train, and opened the doors. You get on the wrong train, it's your fault, no need to delay other passengers. That train is now delayed off the platforms, and over critical junctions, where it will delay other services. Delaying a whole train full of passengers for one insignificant person, who has only themselves to blame is no way to run a railway.
I expect the passenger who got on the wrong train tried to get off after the doors had been locked, this would’ve put the affected door ‘on the catch’ ie not totally secure. The Platform staff would’ve noticed this and stopped the departure procedure. The door would’ve been unlocked and then platform duties resume to dispatch the train.
Other way around surely? The Paxman VP185 is closer to the Valenta than the MTU engines. I think only some East Midlands Railway locomotives still run VP185s
Unfortunely LNER Had to change the HST Valenta Engine to the MTU because residents living close nearby the line were complaining of screaming noise from the Diesel Engine as though helicopter was landing in someone back yard.
Not sure how much influence residents have over multi million pound engineering decisions. The Valenta was old and less efficient and definitely more polluting. Check out the You Tube HST cold strat at Neville Hill th-cam.com/video/2u6N3qKNyHw/w-d-xo.html
@@DaleDix if it runs fast from London to Preston, that probably qualifies as an express... countless examples of express trains which have calling points before their destination.
It's an emergency stop. Passenger tries to open a door after train has been despatched and the guard signals to driver to stop. It's easier and safer to just let them off if the train hasn't actually moved rather than deal with the fall out later! Won't happen so much when all the slam door stock is gone next year.
It's a secondary door locking system fitted in the 1990s. They can be opened by a couple of inches onto the 1st catch and the train wouldn't be allowed to depart like that. All slam doors will be gone from the UK mainline by end of 2019. See Cross Country or Scotrail's refurbished HST sets with power operated doors. LNER will have an entire new fleet by the time the new law comes in which is why they haven't invested the new door system.
The driver was ready to set off but must have had a call or something as he opened the cab door again to see what the trouble was.Your right they normally set off when the train is about to go......Trevor.''
Trevor Ledgeway I think the guard has an “over-ride” switch which prevents it from moving. A couple of minutes has to pass before it becomes “active” and passes back to driver control.
Not the first time this has happened at York, I remember leaving York with a Deltic going North and the Buffet car crew pulled the PC cos a couple had got on the wrong train so we sat across the junction for Scbro for 10 minutes until it was sorted out
@@LandAnchor BR Intercity Blue and Yellow, its 43002 'Sir Kenneth Grange'. I managed to ride it's last public run, it was the last HST to leave London Paddington and the last 2+8 HST on the Great Western Network
@@multimapping8303 I first experienced a single car Sprinter in Edinburgh, it was crammed with people and I thought typically Scottish (if you're not from the UK the Scottish have a reputation in England for being tight / careful with their money LOL).
They were originally 2 car units, but were later split, with extra cabs added to the middle ends. You can see that each end looks different. (Class 153)
Still sad LNER got rid of these old HSTs. The 125 ironically has aged better than the 225, which looks far more dated IMO. The old HSTs are a design classic.
The HST is just a great piece of design. I thought the production APT looked quite good, too. Pretty much anyone could have come up with the design for the Class 91.
They are getting a bit helpful , normally it would be .. stupid person and off they go .. good one Trevor ... least they are running not like Hull Trains to London .. Dave
I was quite surprised Dave when they held the train as the driver was about to go.I think she was lucky myself as once the doors are shut that's normally it.''''''Cheers......Trevor.''
Something happened...The train paused, The driver opened the cab door...He closed the cab door, sat down, read his map, determined he was on the wrong track, heading in the wrong direction, He went up to the next intersection and did an illegal U-turn, and came back through the right way.
I think that sometimes they apply power before the brake pressure has reduced to zero. What I like about Aussie drivers is the way the XPTs always start to roll before the engine speed increases. Checkout `XPT at Wauchope' as an example of what I mean, not to mention the awesome exhaust note of the VP185 when installed in the XPT.
Although possible, this is highly unlikely. The driver wouldn’t have been able to release the brakes with the parking brake applied. There is a switch to override this, for brake test purposes, but with this switch engaged power cannot be taken. Again, there is an override for this too, but the chances of these being operated whilst in service without the driver knowing or being told are very slim indeed. Power was taken in order for the train to depart, then when the pass comm was pulled, this reduces the brake pipe pressure to apply the brakes, this in turn will cut off the power too. 👍
russ scott no, you’re miles wrong. The driver applied the emergency brake as he would have been alerted of a problem by the guard through the buzzer...one long buzz means STOP.
I hope so. That's what a strong trades union can do. Glad I am in one. Helps to stop the 'race to the bottom'. I don't want tired underpaid drivers on my trains. That's what The Cambrian Railways did and passengers died as a result... the Hunt case was a key event in union history.
It's the colour that is the problem. HSTs were never meant to be that colour. The driver was lucky that the bobby hadn't put the peg back, sitting there that long.
6480 HP and they dont accelerate very quick becuase the on board electronics dont put anywhere near full power down at low speeds cos its not nessesary, the driver also likely wasnt going full wack out of the station cos its a low speed limit at york
Cracking clip there Trevor. Wouldn't it be nice if we had more assistance on the public transport these days as you have prooved in the clip, it can be done.👍👍
WHEN STILL HAD BOTH UPPER LEGS, < LOST BOTH LOWER LREGS SINCE MAR 2016 >, I WORKED AT DLR. L/O, L/U AND N/R STATIONS AND ON BUS STATIONS HELPING THE PUBLIC WITH TRAVEL INFO AND GUIDANCE DURING UPGRADE CLOSURES, NOV 2006 TO DEC 2013. I WENT WELL FAR FROM MY LINE OF DUTY TO HELP PEOPLE GET THE FIRST CLASS SERVICE THEY DESERVE, SORTING OUT MANY PROBLEMS, LIKE RAIL BUSES GOING TO BOSTON MANOR INSTEAD OF OSTERLY AND NOT MY DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY. I HAD A REPUTATIION ALL OVER GREATER LONDON GIVING AN EXCELLENT SERVICE AND WAS COMMENDED BY THE PUBLIC & BUS & RAIL STAFF FROM BOTTOM TO THE TOP. I WAS CALLED THE EXPERT AND A LEGEND BY MY BOSSES BROTHER. DURING THE L/U STRIKE IN EARLY 2014 , I SHOWED DRIVERS THE WAY ON BUSES FROM HATFIELD & SHEERNESS ON EXTRAS ON THE 91, CALLING OUT STOPS & ANSWERING ENQUIRIES. I GOT THANKS FROM MOST PEOPLE ON ALIGHTING. I HAVE OFTEN GOT LOST LONDON BUS DRIVER ON TO LINE OF ROUTE PLUS ON DIVERSIONS.. I GOT THANKS FROM TFL & BUS COMPANIES AND ONE COMPANY SAID I WAS OF INVALUABLE HELP TO BUS DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS, PLUS WALKING TOURISTS LOST IN LONDON.
Something nice to see Trevor and it shows the railway in a good light ! No trains at Dawlish today ,problem just outside of Newton Abbott with a drain collapsing underneath the line,temporarily fixed . Funny to see a GWR unit with you ,a loan job from the donkey sanctuary at st David’s I expect. Andy
Yes Andy was getting worried about this whether but hopefully it might be better when we come down next weekend.Saw the problem on the news about the drain collapsing at Teignmouth .Wasn't sure about the 153 unit when it came in but i thought it looked like GWR.....Cheers....Trevor.''
William Roberts I can assure you LNER’s HSTs never had interlock, I worked on them for long enough. Only the refurb sets with ScotRail, GWR and XC have interlock.
@@assortedvideosofstuff which HSTs did you work on? Because I've watched LNER guards countless times they always press the buttons saying door unlock on the guard panel. Also when trying to open a door loads of people try to open them too early and they don't open then when the little light saying "door unlocked" appears above the door they can open the doors. All this means they must have interlock otherwise you would be able to open the door as when the train was still moving.
William Roberts VTEC/LNER HSTs. You’re confusing Central Door Locking with interlock. The CDL is operated by the guard, but the driver has no indication as to whether it is functioning.
I new there was a problem David as the driver came out of his cab again just as he was about to move off.Never seen out like this before while filming.....Cheers...Trevor.''
When I was about 12 years old I got on the wrong train in Cambridge. It was going through my home town but not stopping. I suppose the guard took pity on me when I told him because he got the driver to slow almost to a stop and I hopped off. Glad I didn't miss my tea. David.
The first train to leave had to apply emergency brakes to stop itself from moving because someone tried to get on the train as it was departing. the second train left from the platform next to it.
Nope, it didn’t, the sensors on the track flick the light red before the train normally finishes going past lights, so you see red when the end of the train is passing, perfectly normal.
I agree a light turning red before the tail of the train passes is not unususal, it all depends on the length of the overlap beyond the signal. It's the fromt that counts !!
LNER : Nationalised in 1948 as part of BR name now back. What is old is new again. Should have all been repainted apple green like No: 4472 "Flying Scotsman".
Looks like he sets the DRA just before opening the door after getting the stop bell. He then resets it but then has to wait a few seconds for the guards interlock override to reset before applying power.
I had a slight problem with an HST at York station 'a few' years ago on the inaugural HST run of the Devonian on my way to Torquay for a holiday. There were all sorts of dignitaries on the platform, platform 8 as I remember to witness the occasion. Off the train set with a slight a jolt in typically screaming fashion, and off the power unit went up the track with a couple of carriages. My girlfriend and I laughed as the Station Master and other suited and booted ones ran up the platform in an attempt to stop the first bit of the train - it had split in two, which of course proved futile.
Quick question. What does the 82 prefix mean? I know in terms of British locos, mainline diesels use the TOPS system, but I've not seen a modern electric loco of this design with Class 82
@russellgxy2905 82 was an old first gen electric locomotive. In this context, its a driving van trailer. Not a locomotive, just a way they're labelled, same way that 44xxx is how TGS coaches on HSTs were labelled
tomtalk24 The colours on the Azumas is the official LNER livery, they’re not bothering to repaint the 225s as they’ll be withdrawn within 2 years and the 125s are already gone
Erm…no they are no smoothers, most of the new electric trains are no noisier inside than the standard diesel express trains. They are no cleaner because the power stations need fossil fuels, and cleaner energy generators (such as nuclear) are not clean because in order to extract the materials, fossil fuels have to be burnt. Mark.
@@markscarisbrick1534 Don't know which trains your are travelling on Mark but on the ones I'm on the torque characteristics of full electric make for much smoother and quieter acceleration. Localised emissions are eliminated with electric so no need for people in stations to have to breathe in diesel fumes. Power supply infrastructure will continue to see increasing inputs from renewable sources. There are a number of technological evolutions happening surprisingly quickly to make electric the future.
@@Aerotorq Electric trains (such as the class 319, 323, 508s) etc are quite jolty when accelerating, due to changes in field I think. Localised emissions will be reduced yes, but there are far less emissions caused by diesel trains than that of lots of car engines. Lots of small car engines cause a hell of a lot more emissions than diesel trains, and pollute the local area's atmosphere far more! The government is always talking about putting more freight on the railways (where a diesel locomotive would have to be used as there is often no electrification) as it is far cleaner than going by road. Cheers, Mark.
I remember coming back from Paddington with my mother who had MS, osteo and rheumatoid arthritis. We'd been to Wembley for a football match and the trains coming back home to Swansea were packed as a result. We had seat reservations on a specific train, got on said train at one platform (cannot remember the number), as we sat down and got settled an announcement came that actually, this train wasn't going to be going anywhere and we needed to disembark and head to a platform at the other end of the station and oh, seat reservations weren't going to be valid on the new train! My mum and I were one of the last ones off as she couldn't cope with the pushing and shoving, we were walking down the platform slowly and my mother started to panic saying we were going to miss the train and we'd have to pay more money for another ticket.
She gets tearful, as this happens a man approaches us and says 'Ladies you're not going to miss the train as I am the driver, stay here and I will get some assistance for you!'. He brought someone back with a wheelchair for my mother and walked with us to the new train where he put us on in First Class and okayed it with the crew so we wouldn't be charged extra, apologised for what had happened and probably got in a lot of trouble as he delayed the train for us. Never forget it.
For the benefit of any yanks etc. The 225 has a max speed of 225 km/hr and 125 125 mph. Confusing isn’t it using metric and imperial kind of at random.
Well done lads. Thanks for uploading the video that shows people who care. The passenger could well have been an old person who was confused. Anyone who is around people who are confused and challenged will know how this could have happened. The drivers and guards had the correct attitude here. Another example of why we need guards on trains. Although the accountant/economists who run businesses don't see our real world. Best run companies are run by people who made their way up. Not straight from a world of theory and statistics.
We certainly need a second person on the train; but for customer attention; not hiding in the back cab!! Too often do we not see the guard.
just came upon this, never heard of an hst, what a beautiful train
Well keep your eyes open they won't be around much longer. They've been working for 40 years! They are a lovely ride though. I miss them.
@@elton1981 Luckily we've got the four-car plus two power car (refurbished without slam doors) versions running between Cardiff and Taunton running many times a day. I catch them regularly and enjoy every minute, even if "how the mighty are fallen" they are now employed on a "local stopping service". I well remember seeing the prototype at Stapleton Road station in the mid 70s, and then regularly taking an HST to Paddington shortly afterwards (I can even remember the foam in the corridor connections before that was condemned and replaced). Happy days.
There not lner they are in inter city
If you think that’s beautiful then look at a Gresley A4 class pacific
There’s also an Aussie Version known as the “XPT”, It’s the same basic design concept but heavily modified / redesigned. Basically an “Off the Shelf” HST wasn’t suitable for our tracks, gradients, Curves, Climate etc. So the basic design was taken and tweaked to suit the Australian conditions, If you do a quick search on TH-cam for “XPT by Comeng” there’s a 3 part series about it being built and tested and it’ll mention a few of the differences and it’s still in service today and should be for at least another decade.
It's a refreshing change seeing the train company help a passenger in that situation. Good video Trevor.
Cheers - Allan.
Totally agree Allan.....normally once the train is ready for off that's it......Glad you liked it.....Trevor.''
Shouldn't have stopped the train, and opened the doors. You get on the wrong train, it's your fault, no need to delay other passengers. That train is now delayed off the platforms, and over critical junctions, where it will delay other services. Delaying a whole train full of passengers for one insignificant person, who has only themselves to blame is no way to run a railway.
Government owned LNER. Shows we can do good for the customer.
I expect the passenger who got on the wrong train tried to get off after the doors had been locked, this would’ve put the affected door ‘on the catch’ ie not totally secure. The Platform staff would’ve noticed this and stopped the departure procedure. The door would’ve been unlocked and then platform duties resume to dispatch the train.
Why ???
I still have a soft-spot for HSTs, but they just aren't quite "right" without the Valenta scream.
hear hear, i can just about handle the MTUs but the VP185 just hasn't got the charm for me. Valentas howeve....OOOF
Other way around surely? The Paxman VP185 is closer to the Valenta than the MTU engines.
I think only some East Midlands Railway locomotives still run VP185s
Agree LNER has MTU power.
But any diesel is better than electric silence !!
Unfortunely LNER Had to change the HST Valenta Engine to the MTU because residents living close nearby the line were complaining of screaming noise from the Diesel Engine as though helicopter was landing in someone back yard.
Not sure how much influence residents have over multi million pound engineering decisions. The Valenta was old and less efficient and definitely more polluting. Check out the You Tube HST cold strat at Neville Hill
th-cam.com/video/2u6N3qKNyHw/w-d-xo.html
They held the Glasgow express for me once at Preston because my connection was running late.
That was 1993. Good old BR
rolf69ful Will all the different train operators nowadays who have their own on time targets to meet that will never happen again.
It's not really an express if it stops
@@DaleDix if it runs fast from London to Preston, that probably qualifies as an express... countless examples of express trains which have calling points before their destination.
It's an emergency stop. Passenger tries to open a door after train has been despatched and the guard signals to driver to stop. It's easier and safer to just let them off if the train hasn't actually moved rather than deal with the fall out later! Won't happen so much when all the slam door stock is gone next year.
These trains have been running since built in the 70s.Been a great workhorse for over 40 years.'''
The doors are fitted with central interlocking systems so u can't open the doors whilst the train is in motion
It's a secondary door locking system fitted in the 1990s. They can be opened by a couple of inches onto the 1st catch and the train wouldn't be allowed to depart like that.
All slam doors will be gone from the UK mainline by end of 2019. See Cross Country or Scotrail's refurbished HST sets with power operated doors. LNER will have an entire new fleet by the time the new law comes in which is why they haven't invested the new door system.
Power-operated doors are NOT a safety feature. They were devised so that savings could be made by sacking platform staff.
See above video where the dispatch was stopped as someone tried to open a door.
Nice video Trevor. Funny that they waited because a passenger was on the wrong train. Never seen before.
The driver was ready to set off but must have had a call or something as he opened the cab door again to see what the trouble was.Your right they normally set off when the train is about to go......Trevor.''
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Trevor Ledgeway I think the guard has an “over-ride” switch which prevents it from moving. A couple of minutes has to pass before it becomes “active” and passes back to driver control.
Right Bobby.....Okay...''
Happens a lot.
I saw this live on Railcam's York station but I didn't know what was going on.
Ladie got on the wrong train as the HST was ready to go.
Stephen P. Gough (Leeds driver; coming from York) was driving 82216 & 91114, but the HST driver is unknown.
What a sexy guy!
@@alexwiddowson3756 no. It wasn't.
@@ukmidnighterho was he?
@@alexwiddowson3756 dunno but that's not him.
@@alexwiddowson3756 He's called Lee dunno his last name tho. works at donny
Funny to think both types are now almost totally retired (except for a few HSTs in Scotland)
So they do need a guard on board,,
Not the first time this has happened at York, I remember leaving York with a Deltic going North and the Buffet car crew pulled the PC cos a couple had got on the wrong train so we sat across the junction for Scbro for 10 minutes until it was sorted out
I was at my local station once and the train was about to depart then the driver saw me, came out and opened the door for me
Nice One...''
Devon Transport Productions so you were in the cab afterwards or he/she just waved his/her hand?
Won’t have done the time keeping statistics much good!!
It would make the time up again. ITS AN HST
@@SteveFTW5 Utter shite
Train drivers time tables are 5 to 15 minutes different to what you see.
York rail museum now have a hst on display
Sean James that’s wicked do you know what livery it’s in?
@@LandAnchor BR Intercity Blue and Yellow, its 43002 'Sir Kenneth Grange'. I managed to ride it's last public run, it was the last HST to leave London Paddington and the last 2+8 HST on the Great Western Network
Yep they have also recalled the prototype from Ruddington due to "management concerns" and a spate of vandalism on other GCR(N) stock.
Nice single car DMU at the end.
Such an English thing :)
@@multimapping8303 I first experienced a single car Sprinter in Edinburgh, it was crammed with people and I thought typically Scottish (if you're not from the UK the Scottish have a reputation in England for being tight / careful with their money LOL).
Is it technically still a DMU if it’s just 1 car? 🤔🤔🤔
They were originally 2 car units, but were later split, with extra cabs added to the middle ends. You can see that each end looks different. (Class 153)
@@BritishRailwaysandSirensDSU? (Diesel single unit)
Can anyone advise what that light flashing in the middle bottom of the class 153 single car unit is about? 5:31
As far as i know they are the units head lights...''
What is the loco to the left hand side please?
Class 225.''
The InterCity 225, a Class 91 Electric Locomotive and a Class 82 Driving Van Trailer (DVT) with Mark 4 coaches. The one leading was the Class 82.
Still sad LNER got rid of these old HSTs. The 125 ironically has aged better than the 225, which looks far more dated IMO.
The old HSTs are a design classic.
The HST is just a great piece of design. I thought the production APT looked quite good, too. Pretty much anyone could have come up with the design for the Class 91.
So both Trains were headed to the same place by the looks of it so not much Distance between them
Lner is one of the awesome classic railroad companies and so is the Union Pacific and gwr and Canadian pacific and fec
I much prefer a livery that flatters the HST shape. What's the sweet one carriage 153 at the end?
No idea about the Carriage at the end.....Not seen it before..''
Been In formed it was from the Great Western Railway...''
Much prefer it in Stagecoach Livery, as what the East Midlands Trains livery is.
That happened to me before, stuck in Darlington on the way to King's x for twenty minutes
They are getting a bit helpful , normally it would be .. stupid person and off they go .. good one Trevor ... least they are running not like Hull Trains to London .. Dave
I was quite surprised Dave when they held the train as the driver was about to go.I think she was lucky myself as once the doors are shut that's normally it.''''''Cheers......Trevor.''
David Howarth that's because it's now being run by the government again and not a bunch of avaricious capitalists.
Neil Dahlgaard-Sigsworth 👍🏼🚂
I believe the engine sounds poorly Trevor
Probably the wind Scott....Sounded okay when it finally set off......Cheers...Trevor.''
well looks like the train inspector is looking down the train and I believe there was something wrong
Something happened...The train paused, The driver opened the cab door...He closed the cab door, sat down, read his map, determined he was on the wrong track, heading in the wrong direction, He went up to the next intersection and did an illegal U-turn, and came back through the right way.
Bet you are glad you got that off your chest.??.
I reckon some dim wit left park brake on other end ? look closely you can see him go for power n hear engine wine then die, could be wrong ?
Could be right but not sure.'''
I think that sometimes they apply power before the brake pressure has reduced to zero. What I like about Aussie drivers is the way the XPTs always start to roll before the engine speed increases.
Checkout `XPT at Wauchope' as an example of what I mean, not to mention the awesome exhaust note of the VP185 when installed in the XPT.
Although possible, this is highly unlikely. The driver wouldn’t have been able to release the brakes with the parking brake applied. There is a switch to override this, for brake test purposes, but with this switch engaged power cannot be taken. Again, there is an override for this too, but the chances of these being operated whilst in service without the driver knowing or being told are very slim indeed.
Power was taken in order for the train to depart, then when the pass comm was pulled, this reduces the brake pipe pressure to apply the brakes, this in turn will cut off the power too. 👍
Nope. No parking brake on.
russ scott no, you’re miles wrong. The driver applied the emergency brake as he would have been alerted of a problem by the guard through the buzzer...one long buzz means STOP.
Young driver, good career, short hours and big pay packet.
Yes pay is ok but it includes all holidays and weekends night duties etc . You don’t see them prepping at 2am in the depots.
It's not a job most people could do, it's very responsible
Short hours??
I hope so. That's what a strong trades union can do. Glad I am in one. Helps to stop the 'race to the bottom'. I don't want tired underpaid drivers on my trains. That's what The Cambrian Railways did and passengers died as a result... the Hunt case was a key event in union history.
It's the colour that is the problem. HSTs were never meant to be that colour. The driver was lucky that the bobby hadn't put the peg back, sitting there that long.
Yeah an then the driver would have just locked it down an gone home. Can't put the peg back without speaking to the driver anyway.
7 in j in
what time is the next train to Exeter?
Tell Me.''
These 1970s trains are still the world's fastest diesel-electric service. They will be retired in next few years.
Some are going to scotland and will stay im service beyond the next few years.
Are they getting rid of them?
They are still running on certain services, most notably Scotrail (I understand) and the Cardiff-Bristol-Taunton services (as I enjoy regularly).
On LNER they have, they are still in service with CrossCountry and EMR, and in short form on GWR and ScotRail
I first thought this guy left the handbrake on.
At least it wasn't leaves on the track, or a broken windscreen wiper this time.
For something that has 5000 horsepower the 25 is quite slow in accelerating
6480 HP and they dont accelerate very quick becuase the on board electronics dont put anywhere near full power down at low speeds cos its not nessesary, the driver also likely wasnt going full wack out of the station cos its a low speed limit at york
Yes Trevor,good video
Glad you liked it Darren.'''
Cracking clip there Trevor. Wouldn't it be nice if we had more assistance on the public transport these days as you have prooved in the clip, it can be done.👍👍
Thank you Paul.....I must say its really done well and very pleased with the views.......Trevor.''
WHEN STILL HAD BOTH UPPER LEGS, < LOST BOTH LOWER LREGS SINCE MAR 2016 >, I WORKED AT DLR. L/O, L/U AND N/R STATIONS AND ON BUS STATIONS HELPING THE PUBLIC WITH TRAVEL INFO AND GUIDANCE DURING UPGRADE CLOSURES, NOV 2006 TO DEC 2013. I WENT WELL FAR FROM MY LINE OF DUTY TO HELP PEOPLE GET THE FIRST CLASS SERVICE THEY DESERVE, SORTING OUT MANY PROBLEMS, LIKE RAIL BUSES GOING TO BOSTON MANOR INSTEAD OF OSTERLY AND NOT MY DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY. I HAD A REPUTATIION ALL OVER GREATER LONDON GIVING AN EXCELLENT SERVICE AND WAS COMMENDED BY THE PUBLIC & BUS & RAIL STAFF FROM BOTTOM TO THE TOP. I WAS CALLED THE EXPERT AND A LEGEND BY MY BOSSES BROTHER. DURING THE L/U STRIKE IN EARLY 2014 , I SHOWED DRIVERS THE WAY ON BUSES FROM HATFIELD & SHEERNESS ON EXTRAS ON THE 91, CALLING OUT STOPS & ANSWERING ENQUIRIES. I GOT THANKS FROM MOST PEOPLE ON ALIGHTING. I HAVE OFTEN GOT LOST LONDON BUS DRIVER ON TO LINE OF ROUTE PLUS ON DIVERSIONS.. I GOT THANKS FROM TFL & BUS COMPANIES AND ONE COMPANY SAID I WAS OF INVALUABLE HELP TO BUS DRIVERS AND PASSENGERS, PLUS WALKING TOURISTS LOST IN LONDON.
Something nice to see Trevor and it shows the railway in a good light ! No trains at Dawlish today ,problem just outside of Newton Abbott with a drain collapsing underneath the line,temporarily fixed . Funny to see a GWR unit with you ,a loan job from the donkey sanctuary at st David’s I expect.
Andy
Yes Andy was getting worried about this whether but hopefully it might be better when we come down next weekend.Saw the problem on the news about the drain collapsing at Teignmouth .Wasn't sure about the 153 unit when it came in but i thought it looked like GWR.....Cheers....Trevor.''
Probably waiting for door interlock so he can release his train brakes and get going.
Ted Ted Nope, those HSTs didn’t have interlock. It’s only the refurbed sets with sliding doors that have it.
@@assortedvideosofstuff HSTs do have interlock even the slam door sets it would be too dangerous to run them without interlock.
William Roberts I can assure you LNER’s HSTs never had interlock, I worked on them for long enough. Only the refurb sets with ScotRail, GWR and XC have interlock.
@@assortedvideosofstuff which HSTs did you work on? Because I've watched LNER guards countless times they always press the buttons saying door unlock on the guard panel. Also when trying to open a door loads of people try to open them too early and they don't open then when the little light saying "door unlocked" appears above the door they can open the doors. All this means they must have interlock otherwise you would be able to open the door as when the train was still moving.
William Roberts VTEC/LNER HSTs. You’re confusing Central Door Locking with interlock. The CDL is operated by the guard, but the driver has no indication as to whether it is functioning.
As rare as that is you did well to capture it. Well done Trevor. David.
I new there was a problem David as the driver came out of his cab again just as he was about to move off.Never seen out like this before while filming.....Cheers...Trevor.''
When I was about 12 years old I got on the wrong train in Cambridge. It was going through my home town but not stopping. I suppose the guard took pity on me when I told him because he got the driver to slow almost to a stop and I hopped off. Glad I didn't miss my tea. David.
Must have been a nice Guard David.....others would probably have made you stay on....''
Well it was the 1960's and I was probably showing signs of panic.
Wrong type of snow, leaves on the line and now the wrong type of passenger 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Accidentally come here... What's the fascination?? I don't get it, watched 2 trains leaving different, i think stations....
The first train to leave had to apply emergency brakes to stop itself from moving because someone tried to get on the train as it was departing. the second train left from the platform next to it.
Oh ok... Cheers
That was the day before I was there
Hopefully not out rationalising?
Bosherton N Gauge what?
Bosherton N Gauge oh this is my main acc
Is there something special about this engine? The door looks different?
Ex-Virgin (so LNER, CrossCountry etc) powercars have different doors, don't know why though
Trevor that 15x at the end coming in obviously ex-GWR from the colour!
Think your right Martin..''
Yep. Class 153 "Runaway Carriage" now with Northern I think.
Nice video of the LNER departures Trevor. Glad they got things sorted. Cheers, Jeff.
Glad i kept filming Jeff.......Very rare thing these days i would have thought.......Cheers...Trevor.''
Was that the woman coming back on the DMU ? Looks like Olive from On the Buses , Nice one thanks
Did anybody else notice the class 82 skipped a red light
Nope, it didn’t, the sensors on the track flick the light red before the train normally finishes going past lights, so you see red when the end of the train is passing, perfectly normal.
I agree a light turning red before the tail of the train passes is not unususal, it all depends on the length of the overlap beyond the signal. It's the fromt that counts !!
Not an 82, and it didn't skip any lights
LNER : Nationalised in 1948 as part of BR name now back. What is old is new again. Should have all been repainted apple green like No: 4472 "Flying Scotsman".
Its still nationalized, LNER is owned and run by the DfT lol. 100% agree the colours are wrong.
Or garter blue like the A4s, what about teak coaches?
Very nice!
LATE NEVER EARLY RAILWAY
That’s no way to run a railroad !
But makes a nice railway.
I thought he was from the buffet 🙄
Dose a bit.....''
Have you any more decent railway clips like this Trevor, If so can you post me more of them. Most appreciated 👍👍
Plenty of stuff on my You Tube Channel Paul.''
well there goes the on time departure
He will have made time up....None stop to Kings X from here.''
Hi bring BR back any day, they used too help you with ur bags and bring the trolley even you use to know the station people by the hats
I quite agree....you've hardly time to get on and off these days....''
Fascinating.
Did the driver forgot to turn the DRA off on the HST?
Looks like he sets the DRA just before opening the door after getting the stop bell. He then resets it but then has to wait a few seconds for the guards interlock override to reset before applying power.
That was a bit interesting Trevor. Cheers Mike.
It was Mike.....Not seen a passenger get off again when the train is ready to go......Trevor.''
I had a slight problem with an HST at York station 'a few' years ago on the inaugural HST run of the Devonian on my way to Torquay for a holiday.
There were all sorts of dignitaries on the platform, platform 8 as I remember to witness the occasion. Off the train set with a slight a jolt in typically screaming fashion, and off the power unit went up the track with a couple of carriages. My girlfriend and I laughed as the Station Master and other suited and booted ones ran up the platform in an attempt to stop the first bit of the train - it had split in two, which of course proved futile.
Rare footage Trevor, Me never seen this happen before.
Not seen this before Keith.She was lucky they let her off.'''
Bit different waiting while a passenger changes Trains.
Normally they don't let you get off again when the train is ready for off Barrie.''
Trevor Ledgeway they will if you put the door on the latch trying to get off
Train #1: 43309 & 43313.
Train #2: 82216 & 91114.
Quick question. What does the 82 prefix mean? I know in terms of British locos, mainline diesels use the TOPS system, but I've not seen a modern electric loco of this design with Class 82
The 82 prefix means the locomotive is a Driving Van Trailer.
@russellgxy2905 82 was an old first gen electric locomotive.
In this context, its a driving van trailer. Not a locomotive, just a way they're labelled, same way that 44xxx is how TGS coaches on HSTs were labelled
I know I’ll be in the minority here and that’s cool, but I don’t hate the mtu’s in fact, oddly I think I prefer them.
Maybe they are helping passengers more like the real LNER used to :-) What was the 153 at the end Trevor...any ideas?Cheers, Bob
You could be right about the passengers Bob as to the Class 153 i haven't a clue at all.......Cheers....Trevor.''
It’s ex GWR, now with Northern
Very interesting situation;-) Like and subscribe;-)
what happened ? doesnt sound too healthy anyway!I wonder how far it got?
It sounds like an MTU HST, which is what it is. Nothing wrong with it
oh dear
'LNER'.... let's hope it stays in public ownership! But who owns its rolling stock?
Angel Trains for the HSTs, Eversholt for the 91s
Here here, until 2025. I just hope they sort the colours.
tomtalk24 The colours on the Azumas is the official LNER livery, they’re not bothering to repaint the 225s as they’ll be withdrawn within 2 years and the 125s are already gone
@@rabd9881Aged like milk
The virgin staff (or ex-virgin) are always so nice. Never once ran into a rude staff member, especially at York. Just so helpful and kind
Thanks for Commenting....Trevor.''
SO, HST = Horribly Slow Travel
One of the best trains built.
@@TrevorLedgeway Some people just have no sense of humour ...
Nice one trevor
Thanks Andrew......Trevor.''
brakes seized
Don't think so,'''
Trevor Ledgeway defo. The accumulator pressure hasn't discharged
Hywel James the driver applied the emergency brake, you can see it clearly just as he’s about to pull away.
Note the classic lines of the HST compared to piece of crap next to it.
225s are far better and cleaner
Can I have that 6 minutes of my life back please
Oops!
Don't see things like this often....''
Yeah, i know!
Ii was on this train ...the driver was very unhappy that the guard could hardly speak English.
Wtf i thought it was going to be somthing good
Was for me...124 thousand views and getting paid for it....Very Happy.''
Bring on electric! Quiet, smooth, clean.
Erm…no they are no smoothers, most of the new electric trains are no noisier inside than the standard diesel express trains. They are no cleaner because the power stations need fossil fuels, and cleaner energy generators (such as nuclear) are not clean because in order to extract the materials, fossil fuels have to be burnt. Mark.
@@markscarisbrick1534 Don't know which trains your are travelling on Mark but on the ones I'm on the torque characteristics of full electric make for much smoother and quieter acceleration. Localised emissions are eliminated with electric so no need for people in stations to have to breathe in diesel fumes. Power supply infrastructure will continue to see increasing inputs from renewable sources. There are a number of technological evolutions happening surprisingly quickly to make electric the future.
@@Aerotorq Electric trains (such as the class 319, 323, 508s) etc are quite jolty when accelerating, due to changes in field I think. Localised emissions will be reduced yes, but there are far less emissions caused by diesel trains than that of lots of car engines. Lots of small car engines cause a hell of a lot more emissions than diesel trains, and pollute the local area's atmosphere far more! The government is always talking about putting more freight on the railways (where a diesel locomotive would have to be used as there is often no electrification) as it is far cleaner than going by road. Cheers, Mark.
that does not sound good....
Seemed okay when it departed....''
@@TrevorLedgeway must have been the start of the video when the driver trys to accelarate away
Thanks .
Bet it was a woman....
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