@@mezla_ sorry I offended you by calling them markers, but I am an old school player. I grew up calling them markers instead of guns because they shoot paint and mark people and not bullets and kill people. If you ever travel , especially through public transit you learn really quick to use the term marker over gun . This way it does not cause as much concern.
They are both Dow 33 base. I'm pretty sure the Force's lube also has a drop or two of tri-flow. Doesn't cake as much. Almost like a Dow 33 light vs. the Dow 33 medium grade that the Luxe has. Frankly, the operating pressure on the Force isn't that low and the efficiency is really basic for a spool. Roughly 9 to 10 pods on a full 77/4500 cold fill. The Force trigger is also considered a KO deuce style. Bob Long has been using them for a while and I am happy F1 decided to continue with them but use a magnet as opposed to a trigger spring.
@@jromez631520 Its funny that ever since I began working and playing at the field I do and have been kicking butt with my VIS, I have had 3 of my coworkers now get victories. 2 of them got VIS HK Army T-rex's, and one of them just got a ripper vcom. None of them seemed to care much for victories until I began tearing up other seasoned players who used newer high ends. I let several of them use my V1 body that is equipped like a VIS, and they all have been very impressed.
500 dollar guns easily compete with both these guns spending 1500 dollars on a gun is pointless unless you have cash to burn . velocity is same and bps is limited to 10.5 you essentially spend a extra 1000 dollars not to use Allen keys to clean your eyes.
@Coach Dusky axe pro or axe 2.0 would easily keep up with these and if you spent 700 -750 which is still half the price of these guns a shocker xls or vanquish would also easily compete with them , if you have the money by all means go nuts but as far as performance spending the extra 700 -1000 dollars just isn't worth it.
They got the price on the force wrong again even after acknowledging it in the comments of the last video. They have to be meme-ing at this point, otherwise, it makes you look bad to make that same mistake twice after replying to comments on the last video stating you have the prices mixed up, and the gun is on your shelves behind you.
Tony is hilarious. The Luxe X was 1 lb. 12 oz. every time you weighed it. For some reason, you got 14 oz. stuck in your head and kept mentioning it even after seeing 12 oz. on the scale multiple times. So, the Force is 10 ounces heavier.
I want so bad to love the field one force. I was a huge bob long fan for years, his stuff just spoke to me. The machine work, the weight and efficiency was everything I looked for. I think the force falls very short of what it could be...
This should do it now lol. Videos we're shot on the same day. It was an honest mistake since we were just talking about the Dynasty ones that are $1,700
cant wait to go back to the fields im saving up for a dye m2 mosair
Both are good markers ,cannot go wrong with either one
These are paintball guns not markers. This vid has nothing to do with art supplies.
@@mezla_ sorry I offended you by calling them markers, but I am an old school player. I grew up calling them markers instead of guns because they shoot paint and mark people and not bullets and kill people. If you ever travel , especially through public transit you learn really quick to use the term marker over gun . This way it does not cause as much concern.
@@mezla_ they are markers not guns
DownzyTheBear they’re markers
@@mezla_ they're markers. Not guns
Lone wolf awesome I like the luxe easier to take apart and less weight less price
They are both Dow 33 base. I'm pretty sure the Force's lube also has a drop or two of tri-flow. Doesn't cake as much. Almost like a Dow 33 light vs. the Dow 33 medium grade that the Luxe has. Frankly, the operating pressure on the Force isn't that low and the efficiency is really basic for a spool. Roughly 9 to 10 pods on a full 77/4500 cold fill. The Force trigger is also considered a KO deuce style. Bob Long has been using them for a while and I am happy F1 decided to continue with them but use a magnet as opposed to a trigger spring.
Both the markers probably preform the same but I would want a luxe so It can talk to me before I fall asleep.
All about the luxe experience. Haha
The Brass Eagle Stingray 2 is the best...😁
Ouch...
everybody knows it’s the smart parts sp1 that’s the best gun
No way....Splatmaster Rapide best of all time
yo tony what gun do YOU use??
Force vs Luxe X? My Bob Long VIS is the winner :-P
Preach! I’d take my sig series g6r over both of those lol, or my ripper vcom
@@jromez631520 Its funny that ever since I began working and playing at the field I do and have been kicking butt with my VIS, I have had 3 of my coworkers now get victories. 2 of them got VIS HK Army T-rex's, and one of them just got a ripper vcom. None of them seemed to care much for victories until I began tearing up other seasoned players who used newer high ends. I let several of them use my V1 body that is equipped like a VIS, and they all have been very impressed.
I love my Reptile....I have had it for years and still cant decide which bolt I like best lol
500 dollar guns easily compete with both these guns spending 1500 dollars on a gun is pointless unless you have cash to burn . velocity is same and bps is limited to 10.5 you essentially spend a extra 1000 dollars not to use Allen keys to clean your eyes.
@Coach Dusky axe pro or axe 2.0 would easily keep up with these and if you spent 700 -750 which is still half the price of these guns a shocker xls or vanquish would also easily compete with them , if you have the money by all means go nuts but as far as performance spending the extra 700 -1000 dollars just isn't worth it.
And theyre more plastic
2 videos in a row. The special edition are 1700. The standard force is 1550.
The videos were shot on the same day hence the mistakes. And the normal Force is actually $1,500 so even the great motoray69 can make a mistake lol
They got the price on the force wrong again even after acknowledging it in the comments of the last video. They have to be meme-ing at this point, otherwise, it makes you look bad to make that same mistake twice after replying to comments on the last video stating you have the prices mixed up, and the gun is on your shelves behind you.
The videos were shot on the same day. Sorry man!
ZeroNobo seriously!! Caught that too. They should come out with a correction.
@@LoneWolfPb All good. We're used to your mistakes by now.
is the force still made of S7 ??? or are they outsourced now?????? important question
First comment and can’t wait to go back to paintball
Luxe for sure.
Tony is hilarious. The Luxe X was 1 lb. 12 oz. every time you weighed it. For some reason, you got 14 oz. stuck in your head and kept mentioning it even after seeing 12 oz. on the scale multiple times. So, the Force is 10 ounces heavier.
2.6 lbs and 1.12 lbs that’s 1.48lbs difference
You don’t know math. It’s an 8 ounce difference or half a pound.
I want so bad to love the field one force. I was a huge bob long fan for years, his stuff just spoke to me. The machine work, the weight and efficiency was everything I looked for. I think the force falls very short of what it could be...
Do you sale paintball guns
who wants anything but dow 33 that way you can use it in your regulator to
Forgot to mention 4c eyes lol
He does around 12:10
When are you boys gonna dial up another golden ticket promo?
That's not a bad idea! What do you think should be the grand prize?
@@LoneWolfPb I don't have any idea. Win or Lose, I just like the excitement/entertainment of the drawing.
new mask would always be a winner in my book or a PE Emek.
Can you make avid about the spyder fenix? Plzzz
Fax
The luxe x only 150 dollar right?
$150? Lmao $1200 bro
@@icrusifys6995 for you it is someone selling me one for 150
@@donttrip1488 Highly doubt it but sure
@@icrusifys6995 no my uncle sold it to me for 150
@@donttrip1488 Well thats very kind to only sell a luxe for $150 he could easily sell it on ebay for a $1000
How many times do you guys need to be told that forces are 1500 not 1700
This should do it now lol. Videos we're shot on the same day. It was an honest mistake since we were just talking about the Dynasty ones that are $1,700
Hi
Geo 4 vs lv1.6
Ive been a bob fan forever but the force is the ugliest high end ever created
Cs2 vs GTEK 170R please
I’m sorry I was the 70th like 😭😭😭 please forgive me
Can u sponsor me plz
field one markers are hideous
1.48 lbs heavier
Field one force is a brick lmao It's heavy asf
We all know the Luxe X is superior. Whoever has a Force is a chump. Lol
Lux is basic bruh force is unique
@@siege_plat2942 facts. IMO I feel like the force wants to remind people in paintball where we came from and never forget or leave it behind