I’m on a fixed budget so I got a Legend in December. Winter has been deep and long here in Utah. I pre learned the new machine by watching TH-cam videos like yours. In between storms I have gotten out several times. I’m Having great success - second park gold this year yesterday. Also got some fantastic deep relics. Love this machine!!! Thanks for the tests ❤️
Basically did that too, been detecting for years with homemade clones of Whites, and Tesoro detectors the Legend is my first store-bought one, I just wanna get out there and put a coil to the soil lol but winter is just dragging on and on here in snowy Canada lol
What you probably don't realize is that this series of videos that you've done is probably going to become The benchmark for years to come on all these detectors on TH-cam. Honestly I'm still extremely impressed with the Xterra pro and what it's able to do for that price with a minimal of settings to adjust. Everything it does is just a little bit better than the simplex. Really crazy.
Thanks Steve! Definitely impressive. 10 years ago that machine would prob be around $1000 compared to what was out that the time. I think the F75 was around $650 and the AT Pro was $550.
dammm these tests are one, Eye openers and two a brain tormenter, I got the legend, but never used it yet as its still winter here, but I was secretly hoping it wouldn't have done as good as it did on the last three targets to justify buying one of those X-terra Pro's lol i know it sounds ridiculous. but the eye opener is showing how Nokta did and still does an amazing job at improving the detectors we hold in our hands, by providing updates. would minelab do that? IDK they probably would hold off and add it to the next year's realize as a sales pitch, Perhaps, Either way, Nokta Changed how metal detector manufacturers do business in a good way for us the consumers, and for that reason, i think i will become a Nokta fanboy by summers end. Cheers on you for doing these tests, much apricated, truly.
Hey Pat, the Multi kings right now have the features to be able to open up a machine to help in many aspects. The Xterra is a very good machine but will not outperform a Nox/Legend/Manticore or Deus 2. For $269 its a great machine with great features and works good on the beach 👍
Great video. I'm glad you know how to say Nokta (No-K-Ta). Drives me crazy when people say Knock-Ta. If I hadn't lived in Turkey, where the company is located, I probably wouldn't notice. There's a European machine I really like (on paper) but no US reviews. Relic Striker by Detech. I can't find anyone who has had one. Have you heard of it? I know Detech makes very good coils and for other brands too.
Both are good. I like the fact that the Equinox ignores big iron when i want it to. The Legend will still call large iron a good target, you may get some indication on the FerroCheck but you cannot rely on that.
I am impressed with the Legend. But as a coin shooter pretty much any detector will do. I know some spots I hunt for parks are old and there is iron in the mix so these test are pretty cool. Really does make me think what I am missing.. Thanks Again Man.
Mike, you said you were in Multi-2 mode on the Legend when doing these tests? That mode is frequency weighted for lower conductors….I get that, but why would the silver dime next to iron produce lower tone/ID’s than a Buffalo nickel in that mode? The 900 in Park 2 mode always ID’s a dime higher than a nickel even though it’s also frequency weighted for lower conductors.🤔. Obviously, the Legend should ID a dime higher in target ID than a nickel when there’s no trash present, right?? Thanks for your efforts on these tests!! 👍🏼👍🏼
NP Dan, its not only the height of the iron but the spacing. Yes i was in Multi 2 in Park and Park 2 on the Equinox. I verified with a few people before attempting and all said M2 would be best overall for unmasking.
If you are testing the Legend on silver you should be in Multi 1 instead of 2. Multi 1 is for high conductors (silver etc), multi 2 is for lower conductors (gold etc).
Hey Mike, i tested these all off camera and Multi 2 is definitely the best for overall separation out of all three. Same principle on the Nox where Park 1 will be better for Silver at depth but Park 2 is the better unmasker.
@@IffySignals Agreed. I would say multi 1 is better for DEEP high conductors since it will favour a lower frequency set. Shallow targets (like this test) are a bit different. Just like M3 is better for modern trash which is foil and aluminum based rather than iron. That's why they have so many modes. Ideally on a good site you should use them all.
M2 was the way to go for this test on the Legend but I’m curious to see if you switched to 4khz if you could have hit that troublesome dime. In my testing I get a little better separation but then I lose the gold targets. 😢
Hi Mike , CAPTN DAN has sort of touched on the subject I wanted to ask you about . I do not know for who else I am speaking but I would like to see the same test (if you do the modern trash version ,that as well) but instead of recovery speed I believe it would be interesting to see what frequencies on each machine would be able to hit those targets best (including all single and multi frequencies) As on the Legend you used Muti 2 (I am new to being a Legend owner) I know lower frequencies are better for better conductive and larger targets and higher frequencies are better for smaller lower conductors but what frequency single or multi would give you the best audio and VDI reading on each of your level's targets for each machine? On the ones the Legend and other machines were struggling, are there other frequency that would hit the same test better? I believe it would also tell you the best general frequency on each machine if you were to test that, I am just wondering (for instance) could multi 1 hit the targets better- that multi 2 sucked with? Is multi frequency really better than single? Could a certain single frequency hit certain targets in iron better? It would give one the ability to see the difference of each frequency or cluster of frequencies performance per machine. I know it would be a daunting series of tests but it would open up each detectorist's max knowledge about their machine and it's capability in each frequency but because of it's complexity I would also understand if you do not have the available time to do it.
Thanks, yea that is an interesting view to test. Giving the advantage of having multi frequency I don’t know that I would use just a single because it would impact a wider range. I guess if you were just out looking for silver and picked 5khz or gold and picked 40 that would help.
@@IffySignals If you decide to do a modern trash test run, I have found single 4kHz Park mode to do the best in heavy Al trash. Park M3 almost as good in low minerals but better in higher mineralization. Any co located target that TIDs 35 or higher is worth digging. You can hear the co location by using the Threshold feature & some tight Notching. In Iron trash the Multis do much better because of adjustable IF. First TB around 7. Thanks for your thoughtful testing. This is how we learn to adjust for Field conditions.
here`s an idea . do this test with the Deus 1 . in a high freq setting with one of the white coils . and i`m pretty sure it will smash all of these targets . because when it comes to pure separation , nothing beats the HF coils and mono so far.
Tons of bottle caps where I hunt Does the 900 have anything similar to bottle cap rejection? Researching to get an upgrade from the simplex. Thanks for making great videos. What’s your favorite machine to hunt with?
Hey Jon, it has FE which does the same as bottle cap reject. The 900 and D2 both do good with rusty bottle caps. I like the D2 for woods relic hunting and 900/manticore for field and parks coin hunting.
It's because 90+% are homes are wood. Every year I drag a magnetic nail sweeper down a 3x30 meter strip on the side of my building. It collects about 200 nails from at or near the surface every time.
What if any difference between the legend macro and the legend ? The one i just got is full carbon fiber and just says Nokta legend not macro on head unit.
Great series buddy. On my pasture fields have been able to run with iron filter 0, which happy nokta have allowed that option for people that can use it. 👌🏻 that was a great rant video btw 😃 👍🏻
Do you think IF 1 St 4 would unmask better than lets say IF 2 St 2 on the Legend? I need to do more tests, from what I saw so far IF 1 St 5 seems to mask iron more than IF 2 St 1, I have difficulties to properly understand and evaluate the intricacies of IF and St, I'm using IF 2 St 1 most of the time but if IF 2 St 3 gives similar nail test results than IF 1 St 4, what would be the difference in real conditions then?
Hey Kobbs, im not exactly sure how the scale works. I tried 2-2 and 1-4 was better at unmasking. In ground this might be two low but i have talked to people who hunt with these same settings and are ok.
@@IffySignals Thanks, I just spent 30mn turning around some rusty nails with the LG24, Field M2, AM, R7, 60t, tone break 7, iron volume 6, they stop to false 1-3 and stop to clip 1-4. With IF2 I also need St 3 and 4 to achieve the same results. The only kind of scale I can think of is lets say IF 1 adjustability ranges between 1 and 10, IF 2 ranges between 5 and 15, IF 3 between 10 and 20, and so on, something like that, that could explain the overlap and why 1-4 could unmask better than 2-2. If so I wonder who would really need a tunability so large and so subtle
@@IffySignals stock park program is 2-tone on legend but legend is not 2-tone in your video. If you watch your video again, you will notice that non-ferrous tone is not same on test setup 1 and test setup 2. In test setup-5 (barber dime) legend gives ID-11 and it generates non-ferrous tone. Since the legend does not work in 2 tones, you thought of it as the sound of iron.
@@IffySignals the video was interrupted 4x with ads. I guess that’s the way of the TH-cam world. Nice Video/demonstration. Your unbiased testing is much appreciated. Thanks Iffy
I’m on a fixed budget so I got a Legend in December. Winter has been deep and long here in Utah. I pre learned the new machine by watching TH-cam videos like yours. In between storms I have gotten out several times. I’m Having great success - second park gold this year yesterday. Also got some fantastic deep relics. Love this machine!!!
Thanks for the tests ❤️
Awesome! congrats MPS. Glad its treating you well.
Basically did that too, been detecting for years with homemade clones of Whites, and Tesoro detectors the Legend is my first store-bought one, I just wanna get out there and put a coil to the soil lol but winter is just dragging on and on here in snowy Canada lol
It’s hard to beat the Legend. It has to be the best detector for the money.
What you probably don't realize is that this series of videos that you've done is probably going to become The benchmark for years to come on all these detectors on TH-cam. Honestly I'm still extremely impressed with the Xterra pro and what it's able to do for that price with a minimal of settings to adjust. Everything it does is just a little bit better than the simplex. Really crazy.
Thanks Steve! Definitely impressive. 10 years ago that machine would prob be around $1000 compared to what was out that the time. I think the F75 was around $650 and the AT Pro was $550.
Wow great perform of the legend! I love my machine, its like a new detector after an upgrade! Greetings from México
Awesome, Congrats 👍
Great test Iffy, thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Thanks Jk, welcome 👍
dammm these tests are one, Eye openers and two a brain tormenter, I got the legend, but never used it yet as its still winter here, but I was secretly hoping it wouldn't have done as good as it did on the last three targets to justify buying one of those X-terra Pro's lol i know it sounds ridiculous. but the eye opener is showing how Nokta did and still does an amazing job at improving the detectors we hold in our hands, by providing updates. would minelab do that? IDK they probably would hold off and add it to the next year's realize as a sales pitch, Perhaps, Either way, Nokta Changed how metal detector manufacturers do business in a good way for us the consumers, and for that reason, i think i will become a Nokta fanboy by summers end. Cheers on you for doing these tests, much apricated, truly.
Hey Pat, the Multi kings right now have the features to be able to open up a machine to help in many aspects. The Xterra is a very good machine but will not outperform a Nox/Legend/Manticore or Deus 2. For $269 its a great machine with great features and works good on the beach 👍
I agree 💯
Guess it's better the dogs being jealous of the detectors then the wife🤣🤣🤣
Sure is. She just read this and said omg haha
And the winner is . Me , because I bought the Legend .
Nice 👍 good luck with it.
@@IffySignals Though I did buy the 700 just in case .
Good video!
Thanks!
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Thanks
Thank you
Welcome!
Great video. I'm glad you know how to say Nokta (No-K-Ta). Drives me crazy when people say Knock-Ta. If I hadn't lived in Turkey, where the company is located, I probably wouldn't notice. There's a European machine I really like (on paper) but no US reviews. Relic Striker by Detech. I can't find anyone who has had one. Have you heard of it? I know Detech makes very good coils and for other brands too.
Hey Cowboy, thanks! yes I’ve heard of it, never used one. Detech is not really popular in the US, not sure many (if any) of our dealers carry them.
I Had a Relic Striker is a very very deep vlf analog machine but the discrimiation is very bad Same as using a PI machine
Does the dog pee increase performance on the coils?...😂
Thanks for the video
Definitely!!
For a person who has no clue on metal detecting, which of these is the winner?
You cant go wrong with either. Both are top machines. You will find people who love both. I kept the Legend because i have the manticore already.
Thank you! I will go with the cheaper one then
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Both are good. I like the fact that the Equinox ignores big iron when i want it to. The Legend will still call large iron a good target, you may get some indication on the FerroCheck but you cannot rely on that.
Legend update works well👍
Thanks 👍
The Nokta Legend is an impressive machine. They stand behind their products and are still making some new improvements.
Sure do 👍
Mike your dog is a Fisher fan no big deal😛
Hahaaha.
I am impressed with the Legend. But as a coin shooter pretty much any detector will do. I know some spots I hunt for parks are old and there is iron in the mix so these test are pretty cool. Really does make me think what I am missing.. Thanks Again Man.
Welcome Danny.
Mike, you said you were in Multi-2 mode on the Legend when doing these tests? That mode is frequency weighted for lower conductors….I get that, but why would the silver dime next to iron produce lower tone/ID’s than a Buffalo nickel in that mode? The 900 in Park 2 mode always ID’s a dime higher than a nickel even though it’s also frequency weighted for lower conductors.🤔. Obviously, the Legend should ID a dime higher in target ID than a nickel when there’s no trash present, right?? Thanks for your efforts on these tests!! 👍🏼👍🏼
NP Dan, its not only the height of the iron but the spacing. Yes i was in Multi 2 in Park and Park 2 on the Equinox. I verified with a few people before attempting and all said M2 would be best overall for unmasking.
If you are testing the Legend on silver you should be in Multi 1 instead of 2. Multi 1 is for high conductors (silver etc), multi 2 is for lower conductors (gold etc).
Hey Mike, i tested these all off camera and Multi 2 is definitely the best for overall separation out of all three. Same principle on the Nox where Park 1 will be better for Silver at depth but Park 2 is the better unmasker.
@@IffySignals Agreed. I would say multi 1 is better for DEEP high conductors since it will favour a lower frequency set. Shallow targets (like this test) are a bit different. Just like M3 is better for modern trash which is foil and aluminum based rather than iron. That's why they have so many modes. Ideally on a good site you should use them all.
Legend @1 means you have to SLOW down the sweep speed,,not keep the speed the same side ,!
Definitely 👍
Great job Iffy! I agree that adding some blocks with can slaw or aluminum foil would be nice too!
Thanks Nick
M2 was the way to go for this test on the Legend but I’m curious to see if you switched to 4khz if you could have hit that troublesome dime. In my testing I get a little better separation but then I lose the gold targets. 😢
Thx Travis, yea single freq can help but you will lose the other side like you mentioned.
Hi Mike , CAPTN DAN has sort of touched on the subject I wanted to ask you about . I do not know for who else I am speaking but I would like to see the same test (if you do the modern trash version ,that as well) but instead of recovery speed I believe it would be interesting to see what frequencies on each machine would be able to hit those targets best (including all single and multi frequencies) As on the Legend you used Muti 2 (I am new to being a Legend owner) I know lower frequencies are better for better conductive and larger targets and higher frequencies are better for smaller lower conductors but what frequency single or multi would give you the best audio and VDI reading on each of your level's targets for each machine? On the ones the Legend and other machines were struggling, are there other frequency that would hit the same test better? I believe it would also tell you the best general frequency on each machine if you were to test that, I am just wondering (for instance) could multi 1 hit the targets better- that multi 2 sucked with? Is multi frequency really better than single? Could a certain single frequency hit certain targets in iron better? It would give one the ability to see the difference of each frequency or cluster of frequencies performance per machine. I know it would be a daunting series of tests but it would open up each detectorist's max knowledge about their machine and it's capability in each frequency but because of it's complexity I would also understand if you do not have the available time to do it.
Thanks, yea that is an interesting view to test. Giving the advantage of having multi frequency I don’t know that I would use just a single because it would impact a wider range. I guess if you were just out looking for silver and picked 5khz or gold and picked 40 that would help.
@@IffySignals If you decide to do a modern trash test run, I have found single 4kHz Park mode to do the best in heavy Al trash. Park M3 almost as good in low minerals but better in higher mineralization. Any co located target that TIDs 35 or higher is worth digging. You can hear the co location by using the Threshold feature & some tight Notching. In Iron trash the Multis do much better because of adjustable IF. First TB around 7. Thanks for your thoughtful testing. This is how we learn to adjust for Field conditions.
@@chrisrogers7618 I like low frequency in modern trash as well since those tiny bits of foil and can slaw don't sound so appealing.
Man...the Legend is a beast!
Might replace my jumpy VDI Simplex.
Definitely 👍
here`s an idea . do this test with the Deus 1 . in a high freq setting with one of the white coils . and i`m pretty sure it will smash all of these targets . because when it comes to pure separation , nothing beats the HF coils and mono so far.
I do not have the D1 anymore but I did like the round 9" HF when I had it. Even on the D2 my fav coil is the 9". Thanks
Must be murder on your tyres!
Thx for watching Pete.
Awesome, thx for the test with the legend
Welcome 👍
this makes the legend look amazing :) thanks for the content
Welcome, they did a great job opening up the machine and creating a full range of filters for the user to decide.
would like to see how they faired with the six inch coils....legend and nox
Yea, some could be better and some could be worse. 👍
Tons of bottle caps where I hunt Does the 900 have anything similar to bottle cap rejection? Researching to get an upgrade from the simplex. Thanks for making great videos. What’s your favorite machine to hunt with?
Hey Jon, it has FE which does the same as bottle cap reject. The 900 and D2 both do good with rusty bottle caps. I like the D2 for woods relic hunting and 900/manticore for field and parks coin hunting.
I havent read all the comments yet...doesnt your concrete patio have wire and rebar in it??
No rebar in this slab.
I think the dog juice improved the Legends results haha
Lol, friggin dogs!
HAHAHA Good one
Does changing the first tone break on the Legend to 7-8 still offer any improvement or is that necessary since the updates?
Anytime you lower a break it will let more in as a good tone but falses will increase. With the IF settings you should not have to modify that.
My speaker is kinda raspy, doesn't sound as smooth and solid as my nox. You ever had this?
I think they had some speaker issues. Where Nokta was swapping them out. Not sure if its a bad speaker.
I always use the headphones !
thanks mike ... when i have questions i look here first
Thx bud!
I guess the dog’s urine had no mineralization to affect the detectors. 😮😂
Hahaah
You guys over the pond seem to be besotted with target separation , can I ask why, no offence but is the ground over there really that contaminated.?
Yea Pete, some of us hunt old homesites that are loaded with iron, most of the time the house is gone and its just an old foundation.
It's because 90+% are homes are wood. Every year I drag a magnetic nail sweeper down a 3x30 meter strip on the side of my building. It collects about 200 nails from at or near the surface every time.
I need an Underwater machine !! this one could do...
Good luck! 👍
What if any difference between the legend macro and the legend ? The one i just got is full carbon fiber and just says Nokta legend not macro on head unit.
Just the sticker 👍
@@IffySignals Thank you happy digging.
They changed the name of the company that's all!
Muy buena pruebas, ayudan a definir diferencias.
Thank you!
Vão sentir saudades dos detectores vlf no futuro. 🇧🇷
Thx for watching.
Good job buddy !!! 🎉
Thanks Brian
Very enlightening. Cheers alot.
Welcome Tim
Great test thanks for sharing!!!!
Thanks Charlie 👍
Must be a Canadian Dime Eh ! bahahaha
Those damn fake dimes sneaking in there 😆
Haha
Great series buddy. On my pasture fields have been able to run with iron filter 0, which happy nokta have allowed that option for people that can use it. 👌🏻 that was a great rant video btw 😃 👍🏻
Thanks! I can see it being used on clean sites for sure. On my home sites it would be rough. 1-4 i think would be ok, maybe a little higher if needed.
Do you think IF 1 St 4 would unmask better than lets say IF 2 St 2 on the Legend? I need to do more tests, from what I saw so far IF 1 St 5 seems to mask iron more than IF 2 St 1, I have difficulties to properly understand and evaluate the intricacies of IF and St, I'm using IF 2 St 1 most of the time but if IF 2 St 3 gives similar nail test results than IF 1 St 4, what would be the difference in real conditions then?
I understand St is a fine tuning of IF, but I don't understand how the scale works
Hey Kobbs, im not exactly sure how the scale works. I tried 2-2 and 1-4 was better at unmasking. In ground this might be two low but i have talked to people who hunt with these same settings and are ok.
@@IffySignals Thanks, I just spent 30mn turning around some rusty nails with the LG24, Field M2, AM, R7, 60t, tone break 7, iron volume 6, they stop to false 1-3 and stop to clip 1-4. With IF2 I also need St 3 and 4 to achieve the same results. The only kind of scale I can think of is lets say IF 1 adjustability ranges between 1 and 10, IF 2 ranges between 5 and 15, IF 3 between 10 and 20, and so on, something like that, that could explain the overlap and why 1-4 could unmask better than 2-2. If so I wonder who would really need a tunability so large and so subtle
@@kobbz1161 good test! Not sure, each location will be different but running too low can be very frustrating.
@@IffySignals True, differences in unmasking are minimal in the low IF numbers, but with a sensible effect on falsing and overall stability
What was so great about the legend?
The price.
The dogs would be finding a new home!
Hahaha
what number of tones did you choose for the legend? I think it is not 2-tone.
Stock Park on Legend and stock Park 2 on the Equinox. I had requests to not modify anything other than recovery speed and the iron filters.
@@IffySignals stock park program is 2-tone on legend but legend is not 2-tone in your video. If you watch your video again, you will notice that non-ferrous tone is not same on test setup 1 and test setup 2. In test setup-5 (barber dime) legend gives ID-11 and it generates non-ferrous tone. Since the legend does not work in 2 tones, you thought of it as the sound of iron.
Thx for the info Yapay, I think it did really well considering the difficulty of this test 👍
There are two Legends doing a great job in this video!
Hahahahaha. Thx Jimmy 👍
You must be getting some pretty good perks/royalties from all the commercials that pop up on your videos, good for you.
Do allot pop up? I think YT does it automatically now. Anyway no, ill still be working my day job for the next 20ish years. Haha
@@IffySignals the video was interrupted 4x with ads. I guess that’s the way of the TH-cam world. Nice Video/demonstration. Your unbiased testing is much appreciated. Thanks Iffy
@@Detect-Oregon geez! Thanks appreciate it.
Am I mistaken or did the Symplex and the xterra do better overall than the legend? Great job enjoy the video
No, the Legend is still better then both the Simplex & X-Terra Pro.
The Legend opened up did really well. Allot more you can fine tune over the XTERRA and Simplex.
My favourites apparatus this legend!
Nice 👍