Long Range 101 Part 84 - How Mil-Dots are Used for Ranging Targets
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- Ranging targets with your scope reticle discussed in detail.
Ranging Formulas:
Target size (any unit) x 1000 / Mils = Range (any unit)
Target Size (inches) x 25.4 / Mils = Range (m)
Target size (inches) x 100 / MOA = Range (yards)
HOW TO USE:
Collect and record the dimensions of various potential TRPs (target reference points) in your dope book. Try to anticipate any possible objects that you may see in your AO that could be used to range distances to various TRPs on your range card.
Draw up range card... designate and range all your TRPs ahead of time. This will enable you to deliver fire very quickly when a target presents itself in proximity to a TRP at a predetermined distance.
If target presents itself at an unknown range, you may have to range the target itself (assuming you know its dimensions).
Advantages:
Positive range bracket acquisition
Passive range finding system (does not emit light)
Mils are always available -- can't loose your optic
Not battery dependent -- can operate for extended periods w/o battery resupply
Limitations:
Have to know target dimensions
The full known dimensions of the object being ranged must be visible and should be situated perpendicular to the range finding device
Requires extreme steady position
Only relatively effective out to 700 yards for most applications
Typically takes 10 -- 30 seconds to accomplish
When to use Ranging Reticles:
At a minimum, an optical trigonometric confirmation of any target's range should be performed when time allows -- don't trust LASER or GPS readings alone.
Use in situations where use of LASERs may risk enemy detection.
Although reticles will have somewhat limited use at longer ranges do to error probability the ranging reticle will be your PRIMARY RANGING BACKUP & CONFIRMATION METHOD.
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Video Outline:
1:34 - Mil Dots and Scaled Reticles General Overview
7:01 - Mils & MOA Compared
9:32 - Rangfinding Formulas and Techniques
15:00 - Examples
23:08 - Advantages of Ranging Reticles over LASERs and Other Systems
25:44 - Limitations of Ranging Reticles
33:19 - WHEN TO USE Ranging Reticles
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couldn't i use (height x27.8/mil=range in yrds) and still get accurate range?
What do you mean when you say "triangle" ? Its right there at 20:31 "bigger base on your triangle?
Also, thanks for these videos they're really helpful!
***** All this math is based on trigonometry which is based on triangles. Imagine a triangle with a side of 40" and the other sides of 500 yards or 6000 inches. It's a pretty stretched out triangle. Because the "base" or short side represented by the target height is so much less than the others sides representing the distance to the target it makes the angle very sensitive.
I hope I explained it well enough.
TiborasaurusRex are there any reticles that operates with meters ? or all reticles use mil and yards??
Berk Yilmaz
Glad you asked. this concept is not always described well by american and british shooters, who most often use the imperial system.
The short answer:
•MOA is perfect for Imperial (yards) units. But you can also use MIL for this purpose, because of its mathematical simplicity.
•MIL is perfect for metric units! One MIL at 1000m = 1m.
NATO uses meters and MIL.
Anyone else taken notes on a note pad hitting pause and going back and re-listening? Awesome job Rex does in his whole series, So much information to take in.
Screenies too ;-p
Dude I've filled a notebook up your not the only one lol
I feel like a spunge.
Yes
Yes I am and I'm trying this method right now and it's awesome I'm excited
7 years later and this video still explains how to range using mil dots better than any other video I've seen on TH-cam......Thank you for the knowledge and wisdom you have provided.....
Dude your videos have taught me so much I've built my rifle set it up with optics and I'm cracking targets at 1000 yards no problem still keep watching the vids
Over and over again
Way better explanation than any other video I've seen so far. Thank you. I'll have to rewatch this a few dozen times.
Over the course of time I have reviewed these videos and learn each time. Mathematics is one of those things that we can’t live without. Long range shooting is a mathematical lesson that can be mastered with these answers. Hats off to Rex for the reviews. I’ve introduced some of my friends who are big time game hunters to these videos especially the optics
I’ve shot thousands of rounds using gas and bolt rifles but I always go back watching and LEARNING from the videos you provide. some kind of reference bible, forgive me for using Book’s name. Thank you, Sir, for the blessings!
So much easier to learn than in sniper school. Helps me hit things at 1200 yards every time. Great job.
Just want to say Rex, I’ve watched your videos multiple times. Always a good relearned lesson. I’ve “written a book” taking notes and I still come back for more. Thank you for the time you put into these.
I prefer an MOA scaled reticle for range finding since it is more precise means to range relatively small targets at long range.
MOA Formula (for scopes featuring MOA
incremented reticle)
•Target height in inches X 95.5 / target height in MOA = distance to target in yards
Of course, before going out into the field, operator can produce a chart for what the target distance is based on possible subtensions of reticle to target.
Math is a blade that cuts through BS. Thank you again Rex.
The last 35 minutes have been a great help in understanding the Mil Dot, and how to use it. Now I, have to watch it a couple of dozen times so it sinks in.
Thanks so much for this info. Even though this video is close to 8 years old it still applies. I will need to watch some of these videos more than once to get my arms around all the information. Very helpful.
Best video I have seen on the explanation of range finding, mil and moa. Keep up the good work
Superb - discovered this by accident and now determined to catch up from the first video in the series. Clear, concise, good practical graphics, no umming and arr-ing as in so many how-to videos. Well done. I hope to be able to comment more. Thanks
Good afternoon Rex. Just wanted to thank you for all your hard work in spreading the knowledge without having an agenda. I admire your dedication and appreciate your willingness to share your extensive knowledge. Thank you Sir.
This is the kind of teaching I was looking for in college, in 30 min my brains is finally resetting thanks 🙏
Of all the videos on shooting, your videos are by far better than any out there. I'm pretty sure you were not in the military but your knowledge on long distance shooting is awesome. Which you lived in SC.
Have a safe week
BR
Awesome!! Very informative and by far the best vid yet describing the usage of the Mil-Dot Reticle.
25.4 comes from the formula: 39.37 inches in 1 meter. 1000/39.37 = 25.4. You can also get your range in yards by dividing 1000 by 36 which equals 27.77. In each case the object is measured in inches.
Thank you for the clarification.
or 25.4 millimeters per inch
27.77/78 is 1000 inches
I kept fooling around with the ole 1000' course range and why and how it was set up
Some thing to do with the click adjustments on the rifle to get a base zero to work off of ,the initial zero or some such.
And later saw the same 27.77/78 appear in these formular for range estimation..
Any way..
I am certain there are down and dirty methods of shooting under stress from a base zero that isn't talked about much..
Such as the danger zone mentioned here..
Really blow some minds when they hit to igoddamn auto spell-/"&$)?!'e uphill / downhill calculations etc.
I got to say I been told this is all going away militarily ,the whole USMC SS schools are being done away with the whole mos is going away..
Outdated methods and technology
11.29.2023
I find the MOA formula easier and quicker to use in the field (at least out to about 600 yards anyway); e.g. A 30" human torso (waist to top of head) measured at 5 MOA (or 1.5Mil - close anyway) is around 600 yards. So 30"/5moa=6 for human torso but 9"/3moa (or .9 mil)=3=300 yards for a coyote (top of fur on back to bottom of fur on belly); 12"/4moa (1.2mil)=3=300 yards for an avg standing Prairie Dog. I can do same with mil reticle but must convert mils to moa so it adds an additional math step - just divide Mil reading by 3 for MOA. And, prior to obtaining my first focal plane scope with MOA reticle, I did use a Vortex 8x28 Monocular with a mil reticle to fairly accurately measure coyotes and prairie dogs (knowing there's 3.44 MOA per mil). Like you said, these fabulous cameras and operating systems (eyes and brains) our Creator gave us do pretty good job of incrementing by ten automatically with a little practice. fwiw.
Still digesting this series. You have made me such a better shot with this series thank you sir.
Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation.
Hey Rex, you are the man!!! I have learnt all about Mils and Moa calculations from you. Now I can use any scope to shoot and calculate!!! Its not a mistry anymore!!!💯😇☝👍🏅🏆🏁🇨🇦
That was an excellent "Tutorial" You really know your scopes and very knowledgeable of this subject. I'm rather new in this field, but with time I'll be able to decipher this enormous amount of information. Thank You for this Great Video.
Thanks a lot for this video. Had almost no knowledge about this subject and its practical application, but you're video helped to gain a lot of it.
One thing I need to point out though, and I may be wrong here (though, pretty sure that I'm not) - when talking about scaling error probability of, lets say, 0,1 mil we need to consider that the error can be +/-, that is, our error can lead us to determine a range that is either closer or further than the actual distance to the target. In this regard, when evaluating the possible error with regards to danger space we actually need to compare it to half of the danger space, as danger space includes the allowable error on both "sides" of the target (either closer or further out). So, in the example of 500m range the actual allowable error in terms of danger space would be 38,5m, which in this case would results in +/- 0,145 mils. So, in this case, for a novice, assuming error could be up to 0,25 mils the actual maximum range would be below 500 meters.
Hope this makes sense and I'm not misunderstanding anything.
Thanks once more for the good content on long range shooting! Keep up the good work!
I should have paid attention in math class.
Teacher told me I would need math in the real world. My math teacher must have been a sniper in the army...
No. Just pay attention to this class 😁
Thank you for taking the time and trouble to upload, lots of very good information here. ATBM8
This was the first of your uploads I’d seen. I got about six and a half minutes into it before I had to pause it to make sure I went and hit the Subscribe button.
Outstanding video, huge thank you for sharing the knowledge. Looking forward to improving in the field with this kind of quality practical based theory you’re providing. Cheers
Hi Rex. I'm really enjoying your videos. I do believe there is an error in the MOA ranging formula. I'm pretty sure it should be:
(Range in inches/ measured MOAs) X 95.5 = Range in yards.
This is roughly 4.5% different than the formula given in the video.
You may have intentionally simplified the formula but since the series is focused on extreme range precision shooting.. I thought I'd note it.
Thanks and keep the good stuff coming!
Good explanations. I like that you clearly explain the "why." Good job!
Went through several of these videos, this by far clearly gives the information needed in a practical world without the extra confusion. I don't want to reinvent the wheel ever-time I take my car out for a drive. I won't go into detail but with my 35 hp calculator, I have put the formulas in and now actually understand the whole process. Thank you very much.
Even though I know most of this stuff I still love listening to it. Awesome job on the videos and classes!!!
Still coming back to your videos 6 years later!
HAHA Cubits... gotta love the Bible nerd humor
humor? dude, cubits have been around forever. you must have gone to school in the US.
Johnny Cash this is from Google cu·bit
ˈkyo͞obit/
noun
plural noun: cubits
an ancient measure of length, approximately equal to the length of a forearm. It was typically about 18 inches or 44 cm, though there was a long cubit of about 21 inches or 52 cm
... sometimes used in the Bible, something that based on his videos Rex is familiar with. I assume that the referance to an ancient biblical measurement in a video about modern precision shooting is a joke. I might be wrong though. Homeschool in the USA btw .
I bought a Burris xtr 5-25x50mm in G2B reticle so I have a line between each dot. Love this thing. Waiting for rings to get here so I can mount it on my Howa 1500 heavy barrel in 308. My son is jealous, lol.
Came back to watch again since it is very informative. Thanks
I like your video well done .English is my second language,first time on long range shooting and understanding really well your information thanks
Dude you are so on point with your lesson. I'm taking more notes than I ever did in school! Haha!
For target size in inches to work out Distance in Yards I use target size in inches X 27.8 then divide by Mils used this gives the distance in yards
That's how I do it, but I use 27.77 instead on 27.8
So 9 inches wide x 27.8 =250.2, divided by 4 = 62.55 yards? I measured the distance and it is only about 50 feet, which should be about 20 yards. What gives?
@@joshurmetal420 4 digits of accuracy based on what? Your mils estimation is only 2 digits so you have pretend accuracy with 27.77 vs 28.
@@bayman50cal does ur scope have variable zoom? If so u have to mil ur target on full power. That could be where ur problem is
Fantastic video! Very informative, thank you for all the work you put into all these video's.
Rex! You are the best! I'm glad I went back to review my high school trig homework!
As always, thanks rex. Gonna go shoot today. Only 55rds thru my rifle, so still building data. Having a helluva good time though. Keep em coming!
Throughout this series, I've seen a lot of questions about what Rex did, or how he learned all of this stuff. Is he an engineer, etc.? Maybe this has been answered, it takes enough time to watch the videos let alone reading every comment... But anyway, there is another clue in this video, how many shooters do you know who have a page in their dope book titled Soviet Vehicle Dimensions? ...complete with SCUD Missile measurements?
That was awesome dude. Absolute clarity and simplicity. Really well delivered, thank you 👍
I have the 10 power 10by40 swfa in moa, all I was used a yard stick and a 300ft tape measure it worked ok.... thanks rex....
The best explanation about scope a have found - Thank you very much to share!
Great vid Rex! I'm going to be watching this over and over thats for sure. Great videography and photography!
Excellent presentation 👍
Oh wow I finally get this. I remember knowing I wanted to learn all this about 3 years ago and watching this whole series sorta half tired and nor fully engaged despite trying to be. Now im back and it's really sunk in. Holy shit just in time !
Interestingly in the video clip with the deer. I could see the wind switch more heavily toward them and thats around the time they look up and started to notice something was up.
Good video, listening to you talk makes me think of the SNL skit Bill Swerski's Super Fans, Da Bears.
At the end, "When to use Ranging Reticles" - "Do to" should be "Due to".
Great series!
ooops, need more coffee.
Amazing gallery of training videos. Probs guys!
The crotch to head method has also the advantage that the dimension is around one meter, so you can skip the inches conversion, and just do 1/(mils)
Excellent Video thanks! Just for us Americans we use yards (thanks to the English) so the formula for yards is: 40" (target) X 27.7777 (for yards conversion) / .8 mils =1,388.88 yards or 1,270 meters @ (19.08 minutes ) into video. Cheers.
Realy close to what I was taught in the Marines. very very close! :-)
Well done Rex. An excellent overview of using ranging reticles. Very well presented. If you can't figure it out from this vid you need remedial math, and based on some of the comments, there are a lot of sad bastards out there who need remedial math. 😐 FFS, you should have learned these mathematical concepts in high school.
You had me at fire support! Miss the op!
TY so much for a fine tutorial...KUTGW!
This stuff is confusing as hell for me, I got a LWRC R.E.P.R. with a Vortex Viper PST 2.5-10 on it which is a first focal plane and I'm clueless. I'm gonna watch this entire video when I have more time, thanks for uploading.
What a wealth of information! Thank you!
Thanks God I born and raised under metrics system! No MOA or MRAD but awesome centimetres per click.
Same formulas, just use 95.5. easy to use both so what ever the gun has your good to go.
excellent job!!
Sure it's in the comments somewhere. But I'd you would rather use yards than meters, the conversion is as follows. You'll use 27.77 for your multiple after target size in inches. So lets say the target is 40 inches tall and takes up 2 mill dots. The math will look exactly as follows. 40 x 27.77 = 1,110.8. Now we divide this by the 2 mill dots that it took up, which was 2 and you get. 555.4 yards.
thanks for the videos
im no expert, but, i thought sure that the reticle subtension diagram in the manual for my vortex viper scope said that the 'actual' MOA factor is 95.5, though 100 is much easier to use in your head. just sayin, in case you have your calculator handy.
Damn, you know your stuff. I jsut got Savage model 10 in 308 and have no idea what system or scope I should buy and start learning. I do like the way mil-dot looks
Mill is a good all around way to go. More scopes at affordable prices come with them.
I ended up with Vortex viper hs 6-24x50 v-plex MOA
A lot of magnification but it should be fun, it's not a cheepo scope
Joe Medic No it isn't. But when compared to swarovski...
+TheTyrial86 I'm not that serious of a shooter + 2 babies in dipers, one income not easy to buy stuff like that
Joe Medic I hear yah. I never said it was cheap. But affordable. Shooting ain't cheap.
I am not bashing your choice vortex is what I was originally talking about by affordable.
I haven't read all the comments, but it needs to be noted that there's a HUGE difference using FFP (i.e., Front Focal Plane) versus RFP (i.e., Rear Focal Plane) variable power scopes. When you use a FFP variable, you can crank up/down on the zoom and get correct target mil (or MOA) dimensions at all power settings. If you use a RFP variable, those are set to read correctly only at a single power setting (usually the highest power setting available), so you will get an incorrect mil (or MOA) dimensions at any other power setting. If you're using a fixed-power scope, then you don't have a problem of FFP vs. RFP, however you've given up some versatility as regards being able to zoom in/out.
Granted, you can get accurate range estimations with either a FFP or RFP variable scope but having to employ the highest power setting on a fairly close-in target when using a RFP variable, might prove more difficult (although not impossible) versus simply being able to dial-down the magnification on a FFP variable to an easier-to-use value.
In any case, recticle ranging in either MRAD's or MOA's is a great capacity to have/use.
Eric Berman What you say is broadly correct, however NOT all RFP scopes require full power setting, so it is best to look up the specs on your scope. I know you said "(usually the highest power setting available)", but some people won't read that far LOL. ATVBM8
Which one is first focal plane? Front or rear?
front focal plane and first focal plane, are equivalent. Similarly, rear focal plane and second focal plane, are also equivalent.
OK, my only question here is:
What magnification power do you set your optic to?
If I measure the target at 4x, and then at 16x, I will get completely different results. I do not use optics that magnify the reticule as the power goes up. My reticle will stay the same size at all magnification settings. This improves fine shot placement, and does not obscure smaller targets at longer ranges.
I would like to know this to because I'm in the same boat ?
Mathew Burch
If your using a SFP scope you will need to make sure you are taking your measurement at the max magnification or at what the manufacturers recommend to get the correct measurement.
Thank YOU! i forgot to tell you that sooner so far im getting better at my measurements thanks for your help!
I have a Viper Vortex 6.5 x 20 x 50 and it has to be set at 14 if using it for range. It depends on the scope you are using on what magnification you need to use.
You need a first focal plane reticle. Rex covers that in another video, prolly the equipment review section
Excellent video. Thank you.
Great video. Thank you
If the object isnt perpendicular you could just tilt your gun to line it up
What do you think of optical/coincidental rangefinders? I have a Rangematic MK5 1000 Rangefinder it seems to have all the advantages of using Mil-Dots with slightly better accuracy and faster, at least for me. On the box it claims to be +- 25 yards at 500 and +- 100 yards at 1000. It is easy to use, requires no mental gymnastics and is similar to the results that can be expected of an expert.
Advantages:
Positive range bracket acquisition
Passive range finding system (does not emit light)
Not battery dependent -- can operate for extended periods w/o battery resupply
Calibrate on against any know distance out to the limits.
Don't have to know target dimensions
As long as you resolve the object you can find it's range.
Does not require a lot of practice to master.
Limitations:
May have to calibrate the device before using.
One more thing you have to lug around and not lose.
Requires a steady position, though not as much as mil-dot
Only relatively effective out to 700 yards for most applications.
awesome channel....subscribed.
booga booga! first comment woop woop lol
These vids are AWESOME rex!!
Superb definitely not going to bother wasting money on a laser range finder no time on the air soft field.
I Have The Primary Arms 4-14x44 HUD/DMR Scope On My Remington 700 PSS Rifle In .308... I Regularly Hit Targets (38hx18w Inch Plates) Out To 900yds...
Awesome!
Terrific.
what about this Vortex Crossfire II 6-24x50 AO Rifle Scope - CF2-31045
The Vortex Crossfire II 6-24x50 AO riflescope with the Dead-Hold BDC reticle features long eye relief, a fast-focus eyepiece, fully multi-coated lenses and resettable MOA turrets. The single-piece tube is constructed from aircraft-grade aluminum and hard anodized for durability, and is nitrogen purged and o-ring sealed for waterproof/fogproof performance.
Features:
• Fully Multi-Coated for increased light transmission with multiple anti-reflective coatings on all air-to=glass surfaces
• Rugged construction withstands recoil and impact
• Single-Piece Tube for maximized alignment for improved accuracy and optimal visual performance
• Capped Reset Turrets allow re-indexing of the turret to zero after sighting in the riflescope. Caps provide external protection for turret
• Second Focal Plane Reticle - scale of reticle maintains the same ideally-sized appearance. Listed reticle subtensions used for estimating range, holdover, and wind drift correction are accurate at a magnification of 18x
• Adjustable Objective - provides image focus and parralax removal
• Fast Focus Eyepiece - allows for quick and easy reticle focusing
Series: Crossfire II
Magnification: 6-24x
Reticle: Dead-Hold BDC
Length: 14.5”
Weight: 23.6 oz.
Objective Lens Diameter: 50 mm
Eye Relief: 4.0”
Field of View: 17.3 - 4.4 feet/100 yards
Tube Size: 30 mm
Turret Style: Capped
Adjustment Graduation: 1/4 MOA
Travel per Rotation: 15 MOA
Max Elevation Adjustment: 40 MOA
Max Windage Adjustment: 40 MOA
Parallax Setting: 10 yards to infinity
Material: 6061 Aluminum
Finish: Hard coat anodizing
Specifications
Features
BDC
Brand
Vortex
Manufacturer Part Number
CF2-31045
Assembled Product Weight
1.00 oz
Manufacturer
Vortex
Great practical error understanding! Thanks!!
I watched this vid to refresh my memory from what I learned at sniper school at Stone bay. I remember range estimation with a 3×9×40 scope being, target size in inches×25.54÷mils. & when using fixed 10× it was 27.78...was anyone else taught 25.54 opposed to 25.4? Or 27.78 for fixed power scope? I went through SS school over 15 yrs ago, so of course I've forgotten alot. Great video BTW! The art of long range Shooting is really amazing.
This is such an informative video, but I have to say this: The formula (at mark 11:04) for range based on target size in inches and MOA is incorrect. It's the constant, 100, that's incorrect, that number should be 95.5. Although many probably use 100, it will give a 5% error.
I realize that doesn't sound like much but for 6 MOA and a target size of 36", the 100 constant gives a range of 600 yards; the same with the 95.5 constant gives a range of only 573 yards.
Otherwise great video!
On My AR-15 In 5.56/.223, I Have The Primary Arms 1-8x24 ACSS Retical... Zero It At 100yds & Its Good To Go Out To 800yds...
2nd, lol, Rex! Great subject nice to see your take on it.
thanks this will really help for school on monday
When i researched the Vectronix line of laser range finders i found out that they are made in the exact same factory as the original Swiss WILD (pronounced Vild) optical rangefinders .... What i was wondering is why none of the modern companies does not have these Co-Incidence optical rangefinders reproduced in their Asian manufacturing facilities.... From what ive gathered reading some of the long range shooting forums these Swiss Optical rangefinders were quite accurate and could range to 20,000 meters.... and at ranges of 2000 meters and less were accurate to within +/- one percent .... They seem to be rather simple mechanical / optical devices and they can read in conditions that render Laser readings inaccurate.... Just seems like it could be a viable alternative to those of us who can not afford the 2K price of the Vectronix Terrapin.. A newer one could be made much smaller then the 20.000 meter Wild Rangefinders.... Say under a foot long and giving accurate ranging to 2K meters.... Do you or anyone here have any personal experience with the Optical Co Incidence range finders like the WIld or the Barr and Stroud ?
this helps a lot . thanks man . keep doing awesome videos.
wow with all these ranging skills applied you could potentially snipe out a couple criminals in a city range environment huh
If you are using metric system the most simple formula is Size of reference object expressed in millimeters divided by MILs, Target size(millimeters)/Mils=Range (meters)
so I should be able to set a 3.6 inch target at 100 yds and in my scope it will be exactly 1mil??
Great videos, by the way, has anyone ever told you that you kinda sound like Ted Nugent
G2DMR reticule has 0.1mil hash marks on the outer edges to minimize operator error at longer ranges. Ranging with millrads is simple math, the tricky part is getting it right in the field under pressure. Practice Practice Practice.
Please someone reply - am I over thinking this...
Does this only work for a first focal plane scope. If you ha e a second focal plain scope the size of the target in the mom dot scope will take up a larger or smaller amount of Mils due to the scope reticle not changing size?
Right?? So with a second focal plane scope this won't work... Right...??
It works on a SFP scope if you are at the designated magnification. Usually highest power but doesn’t seem to be a standard, so scope manufacturer should have that info in the manual
awwww,my brain hurts, just shoot the targets already!! lol
I think that using the binoculars to estimate range will only tell the experienced shooter if he should bother attempting to range it with his rifle scope, or just get closer
Rex, I'm new to LR shooting. just watched your peripheral equipment vid, and am wondering how to prioritize my equipment purchases. Will be starting out shooting out to 300 yards at my local range, and farther out when I get good. My rifle is a .308 and I will be getting a SWFA scope when I get the money. I eventually want to shoot out to 1000yds. what do you recommend I get first? I'm on a budget, so it will take a while.
NOV 2015...what State of the Union ( state of confusion does not qualify as an answer ) are you guys shooting in? Can't tell if you're in Northern California or Utah.Just learned that you are a Cancer Patient , May you receive the blessings you need during this time in your life
I'd like to add that when using a Mil dot scope that measures 3.6 inches/mil dot @100 yards, the same scope does not yield 3.937 inches/mil dot at 100 meters. The problem becomes even more of an issue when moving out to 1000 yards vs. meters. At 100 yards, the typical mil dot scope measures 36 inches/mil dot however, it does not measure 39.37 inches at 1000 meters. The reason is obvious because 1000 meters is 93.6 yards further then 1000 yards. Therefore, you cannot use the same ranging calculation of: target size (in meters) x 1000 divided by the number of mil dots subtended across the target ...as there will be an error of 9.36%. I've tried to work out the correlation between sizing a target in inches vs. centimeters and found there is no correlation without factoring the 9.36 % to the final distance.
You sound like uncle Ted! Lol
Excellent video!