I appreciate those comments from Cheryl. Seemed like the right balance of just telling it like it is, not giving caveats but also not feeling like she needs to gush unnecessarily about cc cuz we all get it. But Cheryl still rubs me the wrong way. And that’s fine, I don’t expect or need her to change. I’m just offput by her personally 🤷♀️
Hahahaha most of the season I have called out "old heifer " every time she was on the screen!! My husband would even yell "heifer alert!" if I missed it! But you gotta respect the woman, and I love the Lynx! Phee should've been MVP in my opinion! So Cheryl, you did a hell of a job with your team, much respect for the truth-telling!! Love and basketball from a longtime Caitlin granny!❤
Absolutely love your comment Caitlin Granny,! Phee should have been MVP. I'm there with you also on Cheryl. You said husband called out "heifer alert", my wife would say""that your girlfriend on?" Wish I could relive this season, it was that good! 🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩😍😍😍
Reeve is right. The WNBA did ride the CC wave... while simultaniously trying to install as many wave breakers as humanly possible to break the wave. And Reeve installed a lot of those breakers early in the season herself. I havent forgotten that she didnt give 2 shyts about CC and the new fans she brought (her words, not mine) and she was one of the main reasons CC wasnt on the Olympic roster!
As a new WNBA fan from Canada after following CC from college, I truly appreciate your coverage. I’ve found TH-cam coverage to be a toilet bowl of misinformation in an effort to capitalize on her popularity. I’ve been a sports fan my whole life, worked in it, and understand the media landscape has changed. So being an “older guy” who was around before the internet, it’s been a little hard to navigate and find balanced coverage. After watching a full season of WNBA, yes including the finals, I’m excited about the league which is why I always turn to your channel for real, call it like it is, coverage. I believe in the long run, it will pay long-term dividends for your brand. Professionalism matters and you have carried your past experience into this relatively new stage of your career and I congratulate you for that. Keep up the good work! And… I will suggest, even though down the road, the impact of Toronto’s addiction to the league will bring even more growth. Toronto is a massive needle mover in the Canadian media market. Hopefully Vancouver soon.
Coach Reeve, recall when your team committed fouls against CC with body slams and the referees overlooked it in favor of your team? There was no complaint heard from you or your players about the referees' fairness. Similarly, there was no mention from the Indiana Fever at their press conference about the game being unfairly taken from them. Your right it was a bad call by the referees that cost you guys a championship, just like it cost an Indiana Fever a game. Rather than lamenting that the championship was stolen, use your influence to enact change and ensure this doesn't happen to any team in the WNBA again.
Body slams? Which game(s) did this/these occur in? I am a HUGE CC & Fever fan, and I do not recall any excess physicality in the Fever vs. Lynx games. If you can tell me which game(s), I'd like to review them.
@Hawk I agree about Game 5 being stolen. BUT - Game 4 was stolen from the LIBERTY by the referees. And whatever Reeve says now can’t make up for her jealous, dismissive nastiness aimed at Clark. The U.S. ALMOST LOST the Olympics because Reeve allowed people like 2-point-average Taurasi on the team - and then she rode the bench for the last 2 games. Nope, low-class foul-mouth Reeve doesn’t get forgiven because she did this one thing right.
To be fair, when a game is physical and the refs are not calling it it's up to the player to adjust. Try to give it back what were they dealt with. If the refs call it against your team then that's on the ref. The Lynx and liberty series was a physical one. IMO in terms of letting them play despite of lots of contact is pretty fair. The only problem was when they call that very thin to none foul at the end. They had no business calling that specially when they are consistently letting the game be physically played all series long. I love the Fever but biases aside? That call is a bad reflection of the league and a deservice to these women's hardworks.
@@may2972 There’sa reason that there are rules about fouls. When a player grabs another player around the waist and throws her to the ground, as Jonquel Jones did in Game 5, that should have been called a flagrant foul and JJ should have been ejected. Instead they called the foul on the victim, who was injured. That’s not “physical play,” it’s a gross violation and this is why lots of people have become disgusted with this being accepted in the WNBA. If I had a kid who wanted to play basketball, I don’t think I’d let them watch this carnage and think it’s okay. It’s not.
Its a shame that Reeve's has been crapping on CC all year and has turned her head to all the violence that CC has dealt with by WNBA players and now when she realizes the bonuses that her team and players will recieve because of the fan influx and CC contributions, she is singing a different tune. Pathetic. Nothing attractive about what she is saying now. I am really not suprised and I dont agree with Lundberg's hypothesis at all. So many manipulators and takers in the WNBA to include the media.
Glad you came to the w, im ny liberty fan, been a fan for many years. the lynx are also one of my favorite teams. i am a fan of bridgit carleton on the lynx. she played bb at iowa state. my daughter went to school there. glad bridgit is making a name for herself in the w.
@@theaceman2009 I’m from California, and missed when they were at crypto. I flew out to Phx and Connecticut for game 1 of the playoffs. I never understood why people followed sports, here I am flying, buying jerseys, and other stuff. But she’s amazing and worth it to see!
WNBA numbers are going in a good direction but they have a long, long, long way to go. In 2022 the NCAA women finals had 5 million without Clark. 2023 Clark is in finals and it's 9.9 million. 2024 Clark in finals it's 18 million. 2024 WNBA finals 2.1 million. The only reason Clark could not do the same for the WNBA, is the WNBA itself. There is immense interest for women's basketball, but not a toxic circus.
Now I feel like she was annoyed as a coach and just did not want any distractions by the media while her team is still involved in playing games. She sounded very calm, relaxed, and composed here. I appreciate that she stood up for her team and called out that game altering phantom foul call.
Yeah, that was always it. If people honestly think Coach Reeve has a personal problem with Caitlyn they haven't been paying attention any longer than the last 6 months.
Just from watching CC play against all those teams reignited my interest. To see the talented other ladies got me trying to buy their jerseys now as well. I watched most of the playoff games as well as checking their progress online. They all need to give CC her props for helping new fans to stay watching and attending these games. The wave should be steady and consistently getting better the longer she is in the league. Can't wait for her 2nd season.
Hearing about CC had me eventually going to games in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. I’d been to a few NBA games in the past but Fever vs Aces was my first WNBA game.
Cheryl Reeve is far from an effusive person. I frequently think that her own players are terrified around her. So she probably did her very best in this strained-through-a-sieve praise for Caitlin. Just her style/character. But as someone else commented, she is a powerful person in the league, so good that such a person said anything positive about CC.
Regardless of the reasons for Cheryl Reeves more mature attitude, it is good to see from someone so influential in the W. I hope the rest of the league realizes the mercurial impact Caitlin Clark has had ushering in a whole new era of "W" basketball and these next few years will not only showcase the entrance of new potential superstars but also showcase the incredible play and talents of so many extremely skilled basketball players. Now the NBA needs to step in and do something about the Deloitte "Darling" Cathy Englebert and the crooked officials.
And was a main reason why CC wasnt on the Olympic team. And didnt give 2 shyts, or even one (her words, not mine), about CC and the new fans. Its crazy how fast people forget.
@@Smido83 CC was a rookie still acclimating to the league. The best thing anyone did for Caitlyn last year was keep her off that team, give her a month off to process and prepare for the second half.... Where she put it all together and truly dominated. Wouldn't have happened if she was trying to learn a completely different offense and defense on the fly in the middle of the year. This might completely shock you but the best coach in WNBA history might just know what she's doing..
@@billhicks808 Or... more likely... she didnt want her on the team, so that Taurasi can waste a roster spot to win her 6th gold? Please explain why the manadoty training camp was hold during the Final 4... for the 1st time in history. Isnt that strange? When Taurasi entered the league they didnt do that, or when Stewart entered, or Parker... strange strange strange...
She is shameless..SHE SHOULD BE REPLACED with A MORE competent one referees included..Thuggy behaviors should never be excused nor tolerated if the WNBA is to flourish!!
I watched Clark play Minnesota everytime and was impressed how the Lynx played and how well they passed and each player was able to shoot the ball. Really hoped they would pull out the win for the championship. If the league can clean up the bad refs and the toxic players actions, there's hope for the WNBA.
Robin you are such a pushover when it comes to selective memory, quickness to forgive and forget and then snuggle up to a number of the W women who were lost but now claim to be found. Hallelujah! Cheryl and Angel are just the greatest! Game 4 and 5 of the finals were garbage - not a good showing for the W.
Reeves did the pricking. Sour grapes, sure? Local support is different from the support Caitlin got. Other teams are fortunate they could ride the wave. Show maturity Reeves! A 22 year old showed some. Could you flourish among such negativity? The whole of America zeroed in on this 22 year old. The last entertainer that had to live through such varied opinions that I can recall was Elvis. Everyone had an opinion regardless of age or race. Once they saw the good in him , most came around. Takes a unique individual to flourish under such negativity. I think they will see the good in Caitlin eventually. It will be good for the whole league. Love the Fever, love the WNBA! 😍💜🤩❤️🥰💜🥳❤️
Her decision of excluding CC in that Olympic team is the best thing that ever happened to Fever. I love CC but I do understand Reeves' decision to just give the spot to those vets. She could have worded her statement better but that's just the WNBA for you back then. They don't try to be more tactful with their words because no body cares a lot until recently 😅
I like when she said, "The fans don't know what they're missing." Oh trust me, after watching that Finals game, we know what we're missing. Bad basketball, really bad basketball!!!
I watch Clark highlights and get more excited than the playoffs and championship.... Nothing taken from either team... They all did their job, Phee was my favorite
Maybe it was because of Cheryl Reeve's change of heart towards Caitlin Clark after the olympics that caused her to fall out of favor with the WNBA and Cathy Englebert which led to the Liberty clearly being given the trophy in the rigged playoffs (also see Fever vs Sun). Englebert sent a message, "STAY IN LINE!"
CR not really giving due...proper due. For CC's (and her teammate's sake), this is great fuel. IF everyone actually gave her the due she deserves, I think that would actually be a bigger burden psychologically than to be continually disrespected which seems to only fuel her. Getting through this season is like having a couple of years of tough experience under her belt. She's a veteran now.
Sorry, I don't buy Reeves comments designed to fit the moment. Her, "I don't give two poops" comment spoke to me as arrogant and dismissive of the reporter's question. That it was about CC doesn't mean anything to me. Reeves is a very good coach, and if that is all that matters then ok, but I'd still take a quality person like Sides even if her coaching skills are not on the same level. I wrestled for six years, 6th through HS, making it to state quarter finals. I had a total of seven head and assistant coaches during that time. The one coach I think about today as someone who made a difference in my life would likely have been ranked lowest on a performance scale. But he was number one on a human scale, and was the coach who turned me into a winning wrestler.
I sincerely hope that, before next season starts, MOST OF US CC FANS WILL BE ABLE TO LET GO OF ALL OF OUR RESENTMENTS OVER WHO SAID WHAT ABOUT CAITLIN AND WHO DID WHAT TO CAITLIN, BECAUSE AS LONG AS WE HOLD ON TO ALL OF THIS ANGER AND RESENTMENT, SOME OF US WILL KEEP MAKING NASTY REMARKS ABOUT PLAYERS AND COACHES IN THIS LEAGUE AND THAT WILL FURTHER INCITE THEM TO HATE OR FEAR US. THIS WILL PERPETUATE A VISCIOUS CYCLE, AND THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE!!!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE... JUST LET IT GO! FORGIVE, AND MOVE FORWARD. Let's take the high road so that next season we can actually ENJOY the games. All of this started with the dismissive remarks made by Sheryl Swoopes (in Feb. 2024) because of her jealousy over the fact that Caitlin had broken her 1993 record for the most points recorded in a ncaa tournament. Sheryl tried to delegitimize Caitlin's record because, in 1993, the highest ranked teams in the ncaa tournament had a first round bye, so Sheryl scored her record in only five games, whereas Caitlin had six games in which to beat Sheryl's record. At that time, NONE OF US CC FANS KNEW WHY Swoopes was disrespecting CC and we were pretty upset about it (especially those of us who had also been fans of Swoopes - I was at the Final Four in 1993 and I saw Swoopes score 47 points in the championship game). A few weeks after Swoopes' comments began, Taurasi made her now famous remarks at the 2024 Final Four. We were getting pretty upset at this point. Suddenly, these TH-cam channels appear, claiming to LOVE OUR CC, and they also were "shocked and angry" over the disrespect being shown to CC. THESE CONTENT CREATORS WERE VERY CLEVER because they knew that 1) CC has millions of fans, 2) most of CC's fans didn't know very much about the WNBA, 3) CC fans generally tended to lean towards conservative or Christian values, and 4) if they played their cards right, they could make a fortune off of CC fans. So, every time anyone that had any association with the league said anything the least bit negative about Caitlin, they blew it all out of proportion and reported it on their channels with appropriate feigned indignation. They also magnified and exaggerated anything and everything they could possibly think of that could be perceived by CC's fans as negative conerning anyone associated with the WNBA. They intentionally and methodically introduced content day after day to cause us to develop negative thoughts and feelings towards the league and the "activist" players in the league. Day after day, after week, they worked to sow dissension, distrust, disgust, anger, and even hatred between CC fans and players and other elements of the league through exaggeration, half-truths, and outright lies. THEY KNEW THAT ONCE THEY GOT US TO BELIEVE THE LIES, CONFIRMATION BIAS WOULD PREVENT US FROM LISTENING TO THE TRUTH, SO THEY WOULD KEEP MAKING MONEY FROM OUR "CLICKS" AND SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR THE FORSEABLE FUTURE. At first, I was even taken in by them, even though I've been watching the W since 1997. First, they just talked about the folks who said disrespectful things about CC, and I listened because I was really upset. It had never occurred to me that CC wouldn't be welcomed into the W with open arms. However, after about two weeks of watching these videos, I realized that they weren't telling the truth because I knew the players in the W, and most of what was being said about them was FALSE!!!! I truly hope that those of you who have been systematically deceived by these channels will pull away from them and make a genuine effort to open your minds to the truth. YES, there was a grain of truth in their propaganda, but they made everything and everyone associated with the league seem so much worse than they really are. There are problems in the league that need to be fixed - first and foremost is the officiating. It must be greatly improved for player safety and fairness of the games. However, the league, and the vast majority of the players are not as they have been described by these channels. Try to break free of these channels and make an effort to find channels with a more positive outlook. May God bless you all.
Wow, you really thought this thing out! I did read all of your comment. It was so good that a couple of points I slightly differ on I will choose to not comment on. I would rather have your thoughts stand alone. You are a great "W" fan, a thinker to help level our thoughts out. Good to have such a positive in fluence among us. I go back to 1997 as a fan. When Grizz cam e to Memphis in 2000, as a season ticket holder I got totally into the team. It wasn't until this year I got back into the "W". I' m all in now. My favorite league now, who would have thunk it? Big Fever fan, love Caitlin to death. Love the whole WNBA and can't wait for next season. What a ride this season was! Feel like Fever Fans are family. Love you Katharine, love your mind! Guess I will see you next season.🤔🤔🤔😌😌😌😍😍😍🤠🤠🤠
"Whatever the reasons were"; "There was one really big reason" -- too bad she couldn't seem to bring herself to say Caitlin Clark's name after that first mention about the excitement about the draft, before the season began, about a player that wasn't even going to the Lynx. "Cait - lin- Clark" -- it's only three syllables, ladies. It's not that hard to say.
I am sorry... after I really tryed, the game 5 cured me completely. The refs were one thing. But whatever the players tryed to do out there, it wasnt Basketball. I cant watch this anymore... I will watch CC and Fever games, thats it. The rest of the WNBA can do their thing... I will just ignore it. Call me every -ist , or -phobe you can come up with. But I also do not watch low level football for example (I am german), even if I played it myself for nearly 20 years. Cause the games are just awfull to watch. But I did watch a 2nd division YOUTH basketball game this year here in germany. Just for fun, cause I was invited. The quality was better then game 5 of the finals. Talent on the court, coaching, officiating... everything was better... and that game was extremely bad in the 1st place if you are used to Euroleague, or NBA.
Good comments, I almost don't dislike Reeve as much as I have in the past 6 months. Believe it or not, Caitlin Clark brought the fans EVERYWHERE. People actually decided that women's basketball wasn't such a bad sport and after seeing her play, the game has seen new fans, especially when the Fever comes to town. Angel Reese could have done any number of things to help her cause and keep her membership if she would have stopped the "me me me" commentary and stopped trying to bury Caitlin. I guess the Bayou Barbie is going to end up back in the Bayou with the gators and other snakes. I doubt that Chicago is giving her any love.
Amen stephen.Wait ,they dont want to say her name,they will have to next year.Even cherlReeves,spit out say her name,She it the new prophet of the wnba.
For the WNBA Finals Game 5 to draw 2.15 million viewers on a Sunday night, going up against the NFL's Sunday Night Football (N.Y. Jets vs. Pittsburgh) and the MLB's NLCS Game 6 between the New York Mets and Los Angeles Dodgers was impressive.
Yeah WNBA wokeness was exposed...as CC doing the right looking for the growth of their sports trying to get women financially grow as well yet..how they treated her is awful and the organization won't admit that CC is the reason for all these... Fix final😂filled to the brim?!?!? When almost give the ticket prize😂😂
What praise , , I for one won’t forget she was the main reason ,Clark didn’t make the Olympic Team, Along with Taursai, A’JA , Some on the select committee, , The bs excuse , She needed the break , People say , she can play in the next one , Thats a gold medal gone , She can never get back, The only reason Reeves ass was saved ,was the refs gave so many calls to the USA , They won by 1 Point, You have selective memory , Its catching, You said you were at two games at the finals , Packed to the rafters, When next season starts , Will they be packed to the rafters for opening games , Clarks will be , She went on national TV and said , I DONT give 2 Shits about Clark, Now you say , She praised Clark , Really, A Leopard does not change his spots , THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE
Doubt it.The WNBA,has a wage scale.There is only so much Clark can make.Now with the current CBA,being opted out by the players.Plus the $2billion tv deal.Players will make more.But the Indiana Fever, would have to be out of their minds,to let Clark leave.She is literally making the Fever millions of dollars.Through ticket sales,merchandise sale.Concession sales.Etc.
If the rest of the league comes around I might get interested. It's hard not to meet bitterness with bitterness. Still there is ESPN's aweful coverage and bias. CC fans can be won over, but not with hate and bitterness.
I actually like her. She rubs people the wrong way because she’s so brash and not politically correct but it’s refreshing. She was under so much pressure before the Olympics and I don’t blame her from being irritated being asked certain questions. Also: She wants Caitlin bad. On her basketball team I mean. She dreams of having a player like Caitlin playing with Collier. Can you imagine?
But she still doesn’t have the guts to actually say Caitlin Clark’s name. Those who do have the guts will rise first in national fan admiration. Why? Because Caitlin Clark is a freaking future Golden goose!
Ok, Coach Reeve has had a "come to Caitlin" moment. Have to give her props for what seems to me to be the 1st time she has mentioned CC in a truly positive way. By no means do I mean to downplay that, even though Coach Reeve is a little too old skool for me... (On another unrelated to this topic, issue, she has not thrown her team under the bus at all. IMHO, there Were a couple of Lynx players who choked pretty badly, although not nearly so bad as Breanna & Sabrina...) What IS missing from both her summation of the season, and yours, Robin, is the insanely toxic way many of the wnba players view Clark. I personally have lost a lot of respect for some of the biggest starts in the W" because of this. They can't begin to see just how much Their lot in life has improved with Caitlin playing this year. Not going to analyze it here, That has been beaten to death by some pretty bright folks. However, until that changes I am not confident that the kind of growth of interest in the "W" that we have seen this year, can possibly been sustained for any real growth to take place. Not sure how to change this dilemma, but somehow, some way, this issue needs to be dealt with. Is it gonna take Caitlin suffering some viscous career ending injury? I sure as hell hope not....
I am STILL NOT INTERESTED in the WNBA as a league. The players are TOXIC. I still haven't watched a game. I just watch Caitlin's highlights. I don't care if the other teams win or lose, so they don't have my support.
I became a WNBA fan because of Caitlin and the Fever is my team. However the Lynx is my second fav team because of Phee, McBride and Alana Smith. Also coach Reeve is an outstanding coach and I've grown to admire her.
I think the TH-cam TV thing has something to do with New York games. Or not sure if other games made you watch wnba. Only if you watch New York games then you have to watch wnba.
So everyone on TH-cam who wanted to watch Jets-Steelers and/or Mets-Dodgers had to watch the game on a 3 way split screen... and all those views count into the 2.15 Mio. Could be 500k, could be 1 mio. We will never know. Cause neither the WNBA or TH-cam will ever admit it.
Reeves is now likable, bc she took a step back from he precipice of dei. It looks likes she sees the disaster of what dei has done and will do to the league if it is not minimized. Her attribution of CC to the new success of the league is a first step in players, coaches, refs, owners change towards professionalism
as much as i cant stand Reeves........ she is literally a grumpy old defensive genius that has one superstar player on offense......who does that sound like 🤔🤔🤔 oh.......she is the BILL BELLICHEK OF THE WNBA!!!!!!!
Should have fought more for her star player during game 5 in the moment....not at the post game then let it out. If they stile ut you had to let them. Not next season.
In my humble opinion - I know. I have much to be humble about - The Lynx won the game ie. Championship. If it was a regular season game I would still be writing the same thing. I’m all about fair play above all else . The refs calls showed blatant bias against the Lynx. If one reviewed the entire game from all camera angles you would see how the stats were different from the reality. Phee Collier was the MVP hands down ! Breanna, and Sabrina were terrible ,Jones got away with low level assault . Breanna looked like she was teaching a dance class with a ball in her hands. Sabrina would have needed a ladder to make a bucket. On the others side Williams was not only a ball hog she couldn’t make a shot in the last quarter yet Reeve kept her in the game. That I don’t understand. Phee got called for fouls that didn’t exist . Look at how many free throws Minnesota took as opposed to New York. As has been said ad nauseum Cheryl Reeve was not liked by many people, Indiana fans in particular * . With that said. Kudos to Reeve for calling out the officiating which was the worst, and appeared to corrupt or totally inept. Reeve is a contrarian opposed to Christie Sides whom let CC get called for technicals when she could have stepped in, which she did twice early in the season; however, when it really counted after the Olympic break she was crickets . And so it goes on this day October 22,2024 * Why do people not see the platinum lining in that kerfuffle ? That break gave CC, KM,AB,LH - Smith ? - time to rest,and practice. CC had not had a break since Iowa . What a difference a day makes …
She can grasp that more than one thing can be true at once. The league was growing before the arrival of this rookies class, this rookie class as a whole brought a whole bunch of new eyeballs to the league, Angel Reese, Alissa Pili, Leonie Fiebich, Cameron Brink, and all the rest brought in their own fan bases, and finally but definitely not least the the Caitlin Clark. Which is all riding the wave of NIL and womens collegiate sports. Very rarely does an event happen in a vacuum exoept in outer space.
@fauxblonde I only recognize one of those names you listed in the class of 2024 rookies. Cameron Brink, and I don't know if she ever built much of a fanbase prior to her knee injury which was unfortunate. Kate Martin, who was a college teammate of Clark was drafted 18th by the Aces, and is 4th in jersey sales, so Iowa had 2 rookies as well as a veteran in Megan Gustafson who was drafted a few years earlier, 2019 I believe. You left out Angel Reese, but she blew out her own candle. She may have caused Chicago to have fewer fans except when the Fever came to town, and they came to see Caitlin, not Angel.
@@mcanqbCameron Brink is a baller. Had her season not been plagued by an injury she would have been part of the conversation with CC . She I think was the number two draft pick. She’s tall, and thin. Would love her to be on the Fevers front five … Ps. Her, and CC would have to have a shoot out for #22 :)
Excuse me no. The league wasnt growing before Clark. It did had an upwards trend but for something to grow it has to be bigger than it was & since 2020 the numbers never surpassed the early years. This is the first time arenas got full at actual decent ticket prices. Not for free or for the price of a coffee.
Across the league? You were the first complaining that the league was not about one team or one player. Any game that does not include CC is a non event and trying to make it sound otherwise is denying reality. You just have to look at audiences and viewership that does not include CC to grasp what is going on.
@@Bangs_Theory If the only time you can attract a crowd is during the finals compared to someone who constantly attracts a crowd whether it’s on tv on the road or at home during the regular season. Maybe the rest of the league has a few crumbs to eat before getting there. Especially when even during the playoffs they were selling seats at bargain bottom prices to try to fill the seats. While the girl fills 17 000 - 20 000 venues at never before seen sky high prices for the WNBA. But let’s just stick a finger in our eyes and one up our ass3s in pretending that both phenomenon are comparables.
@@michelleblanc6377 The entire playoff had high ratings/viewership. There's been a tremendous increase of interest in the WNBA. Yes Caitlin Clark surely had a large attraction, but for some odd reason you and your ilk want to attribute all of the interest solely to Caitlin. Caitlin isn't the sole reason for the increase in viewership.
@@Bangs_Theory People like you can’t even read numbers and dollars, Games were sold at basement bargain prices during the playoffs and viewership even though they were bigger than they were last year when you compare year to year were still way below what CC attracted during her series with the Sun. But let’s just pretend that 3 millions is the same as one and when you rig the numbers by forcing people to open a WNBA viewing screen to listen to either NFL or MLB games. Let’s just pretend that it was not happening to skyrocket a nonexistent audience.
One of the reasons I unsubscribe was how you just won't just be honest ....if TH-cam had to manipulate the situation to get people to watch MEANS THEY WERE NOT WATCHING....the put it with MLB and NFL...and you couldn't get it unless you subscribed to WNBA...now come on...!!! The stands were filled but what were the tickets prices...the Merchandise sales were great BUT THERE WAS A REASON THEY DID NOT LIST THE AMOUNTS...now the WNBA opted out of the CBA agreement...I am a BW and this is the entitlement of women thinking they deserve more that why the NBA should have given a time frame on the time they would subsidize the WNBA...these women or the union apparently don't get YOU DON'T GET PAID MORE WHEN YOU DONT TURN A PROFIT...now they are going to find out why the investors who have made no money from WNBA are not giving more money.... especially when they had a cash cow but egos could not handle it...
NBA owns 50% of each WNBA Team. DALLAS WINGS owners own the other 50% . They sold 1% for $2,040,000 in mid 2024. Valuing Dallas @ a WHOPPING $204,000,000. Big money is coming tothe WNBA. it regardless of missed layups, air balls, BODYCHECKS, bad free throws, physical approach, refereeing, fake double doubles, dramas galore , on and off the court. The WAVE is here. Sorry to see you go and also Robin did not ask me to write this. I live in Australia. Welcometo the brave new world. !!!! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😉😉😉
@Robin Lundberg What do you want us all to do, build a giant gold statue of Caitlin Clark and worship her? Yes Caitlin Clark brought eyes to the WNBA, but she had a huge help and her name is Angel Reese!!!! The media/fan-generated Rivalry created a huge influx of new eyes to the league. That's a fact that cannot be refuted.
lol... noone would know who Angel Reese is without CC. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. The only reason people know her is because she mocked CC in the championship game. So every CC hater had someone to cheer for! Did Reese sell out every away game she played in this season? Did teams have to change arenas and increased ticket prices by 500% when Reese came to town? Did Reese play in this years NCAA final? The 1st womans final in NCAA history with higher numbers then the mens final? Reese is only famous because of CC. And she knows it as well. Cause whatever she talks about, she allways has to bring CC up. But go on, live in your delusion. CC is by far the biggest star women's basketball has ever seen. Reese is at best a distant 2nd, cause she is riding the CC wave.
@@Smido83 No one would care who Caitlin was except for those who have been following her if she didn't lose to Angel Reese and feeling sorry for Caitlin after receiving 5 fingers 🖐🏽to the face by Angel. It's a Fact and it will never be refuted. And Btw you're I damn sure wouldn't have know who Angel was if it was for the five finger mocking, but because of what she did it changed the WNBA forever and now I am a bonafide fan!!! Just like you!
There was never a rivalry, only in some people's minds. Reese effect was minimal compared to Caitlin. Viewership proves that. Angel needs to present herself in a more positive manner. Ego is good until you go overboard which she did. The things you say will stay in people's minds. She has a lot of work ahead of her if she even wishes to change all of that. I hope she does, time will tell. Caitlin never got heated over remarks said about her even over all the physical abuse she took. Because of this, she doesn't have to eat her words. Not so with Reese. Caitlin was the wave the WNBA rode this year. The finals were intense and showed it was a good wave. I don't dislike Angel, I just believe she needs to mature.🤔🤔🤔
What I am learning is that Caitlin is more mature than half of the adults. We need to take her lead. 😂
My friend, it's actually more than ALL the adults
My friend, it's actually more than ALL the adults
@@joejenjust I’m watching so I can learn how to act😂
Caitlin is an adult though
I appreciate those comments from Cheryl. Seemed like the right balance of just telling it like it is, not giving caveats but also not feeling like she needs to gush unnecessarily about cc cuz we all get it. But Cheryl still rubs me the wrong way. And that’s fine, I don’t expect or need her to change. I’m just offput by her personally 🤷♀️
Hahahaha most of the season I have called out "old heifer " every time she was on the screen!! My husband would even yell "heifer alert!" if I missed it! But you gotta respect the woman, and I love the Lynx! Phee should've been MVP in my opinion! So Cheryl, you did a hell of a job with your team, much respect for the truth-telling!! Love and basketball from a longtime Caitlin granny!❤
Absolutely love your comment Caitlin Granny,! Phee should have been MVP. I'm there with you also on Cheryl. You said husband called out "heifer alert", my wife would say""that your girlfriend on?" Wish I could relive this season, it was that good! 🥳🥳🥳🤩🤩🤩😍😍😍
Reeve is right. The WNBA did ride the CC wave... while simultaniously trying to install as many wave breakers as humanly possible to break the wave. And Reeve installed a lot of those breakers early in the season herself. I havent forgotten that she didnt give 2 shyts about CC and the new fans she brought (her words, not mine) and she was one of the main reasons CC wasnt on the Olympic roster!
Agreed. Hope she is singing a different tune. Sometimes looking back on an event allows us to put things in perspective.🤔🤔🤔
The Caitlin Clark Effect will not be celebrated in the short term. But it will be WIDELY celebrated in the long term. Just watch.
Always appreciate your insight and coverage!
As a new WNBA fan from Canada after following CC from college, I truly appreciate your coverage. I’ve found TH-cam coverage to be a toilet bowl of misinformation in an effort to capitalize on her popularity. I’ve been a sports fan my whole life, worked in it, and understand the media landscape has changed. So being an “older guy” who was around before the internet, it’s been a little hard to navigate and find balanced coverage. After watching a full season of WNBA, yes including the finals, I’m excited about the league which is why I always turn to your channel for real, call it like it is, coverage. I believe in the long run, it will pay long-term dividends for your brand. Professionalism matters and you have carried your past experience into this relatively new stage of your career and I congratulate you for that. Keep up the good work! And… I will suggest, even though down the road, the impact of Toronto’s addiction to the league will bring even more growth. Toronto is a massive needle mover in the Canadian media market. Hopefully Vancouver soon.
Love your thoughts. I'm riding that same train.🤔🤔🤔
They had a golden opportunity and blew it with hate, racism, jealousy, and cheating refs. Too much to stomach.
So are you saying you give "2shits"?
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2 is too generous for her. She evolved into giving 1 sh!t.
Not even one.
Coach Reeve, recall when your team committed fouls against CC with body slams and the referees overlooked it in favor of your team? There was no complaint heard from you or your players about the referees' fairness. Similarly, there was no mention from the Indiana Fever at their press conference about the game being unfairly taken from them. Your right it was a bad call by the referees that cost you guys a championship, just like it cost an Indiana Fever a game. Rather than lamenting that the championship was stolen, use your influence to enact change and ensure this doesn't happen to any team in the WNBA again.
Body slams? Which game(s) did this/these occur in? I am a HUGE CC & Fever fan, and I do not recall any excess physicality in the Fever vs. Lynx games. If you can tell me which game(s), I'd like to review them.
@Hawk I agree about Game 5 being stolen. BUT - Game 4 was stolen from the LIBERTY by the referees. And whatever Reeve says now can’t make up for her jealous, dismissive nastiness aimed at Clark. The U.S. ALMOST LOST the Olympics because Reeve allowed people like 2-point-average Taurasi on the team - and then she rode the bench for the last 2 games. Nope, low-class foul-mouth Reeve doesn’t get forgiven because she did this one thing right.
Well said
To be fair, when a game is physical and the refs are not calling it it's up to the player to adjust. Try to give it back what were they dealt with. If the refs call it against your team then that's on the ref. The Lynx and liberty series was a physical one. IMO in terms of letting them play despite of lots of contact is pretty fair. The only problem was when they call that very thin to none foul at the end. They had no business calling that specially when they are consistently letting the game be physically played all series long. I love the Fever but biases aside? That call is a bad reflection of the league and a deservice to these women's hardworks.
@@may2972 There’sa reason that there are rules about fouls. When a player grabs another player around the waist and throws her to the ground, as Jonquel Jones did in Game 5, that should have been called a flagrant foul and JJ should have been ejected. Instead they called the foul on the victim, who was injured. That’s not “physical play,” it’s a gross violation and this is why lots of people have become disgusted with this being accepted in the WNBA. If I had a kid who wanted to play basketball, I don’t think I’d let them watch this carnage and think it’s okay. It’s not.
Its a shame that Reeve's has been crapping on CC all year and has turned her head to all the violence that CC has dealt with by WNBA players and now when she realizes the bonuses that her team and players will recieve because of the fan influx and CC contributions, she is singing a different tune. Pathetic. Nothing attractive about what she is saying now. I am really not suprised and I dont agree with Lundberg's hypothesis at all. So many manipulators and takers in the WNBA to include the media.
I wanted to dislike her initially but have come to admire her as a great coach with passion. CC brought me to the W but now also huge fan of the Lynx!
Glad you came to the w, im ny liberty fan, been a fan for many years. the lynx are also one of my favorite teams.
i am a fan of bridgit carleton on the lynx. she played bb at iowa state. my daughter went to school there. glad bridgit is making a name for herself in the w.
My same thoughts! A bicycle built for two.🤩🤩🤩😌😌😌😏😏😏❤️❤️❤️💜💜💜
I was in New Orleans and they had the Fever game on, I was happy.
I'm from Chicago and the only team I follow is the Indiana Fever.. 🙏💯💪CC22
@@theaceman2009 I’m from California, and missed when they were at crypto. I flew out to Phx and Connecticut for game 1 of the playoffs. I never understood why people followed sports, here I am flying, buying jerseys, and other stuff. But she’s amazing and worth it to see!
@@Kraze4you143wow
How cool was that!😊😊😊
Cheryl Reeve changed her take on CC because the higher-ups got to her and told her to tone it down.
i can see that. CC grew up loving the Lynx. maybe one day she will play for them.
No. It was after the loss to the Fever, when the Lynx home crowd gave Clark a standing ovation. Reeve got to feel the Clark effect.
Or she just didn't want to answer questions about players that weren't a member of either team that just played the game.
It was after the game she said 'I don't give 2 sh **s' Her boss called her and told her to tone it down before the game.
WNBA numbers are going in a good direction but they have a long, long, long way to go. In 2022 the NCAA women finals had 5 million without Clark. 2023 Clark is in finals and it's 9.9 million. 2024 Clark in finals it's 18 million. 2024 WNBA finals 2.1 million. The only reason Clark could not do the same for the WNBA, is the WNBA itself. There is immense interest for women's basketball, but not a toxic circus.
Took her long enough to admit it.
Now I feel like she was annoyed as a coach and just did not want any distractions by the media while her team is still involved in playing games. She sounded very calm, relaxed, and composed here. I appreciate that she stood up for her team and called out that game altering phantom foul call.
Yeah, that was always it. If people honestly think Coach Reeve has a personal problem with Caitlyn they haven't been paying attention any longer than the last 6 months.
Just from watching CC play against all those teams reignited my interest. To see the talented other ladies got me trying to buy their jerseys now as well. I watched most of the playoff games as well as checking their progress online. They all need to give CC her props for helping new fans to stay watching and attending these games. The wave should be steady and consistently getting better the longer she is in the league. Can't wait for her 2nd season.
Wow, that's how I feel. The Fever Fans are a family I believe.🥳🥳🥳😌😌😌😃😃😃
There is still a lot of bad basketball being played in the w. Gotta fix that to get more cross-over fans.
Hearing about CC had me eventually going to games in Las Vegas and Los Angeles. I’d been to a few NBA games in the past but Fever vs Aces was my first WNBA game.
Sounds like you are hooked like I am. Don't it feel good!!!? 🤠🤠🤠
I'm from Chicago and the only team I follow is the Indiana Fever.. 🙏💯💪CC22
Cheryl Reeve is far from an effusive person. I frequently think that her own players are terrified around her. So she probably did her very best in this strained-through-a-sieve praise for Caitlin. Just her style/character. But as someone else commented, she is a powerful person in the league, so good that such a person said anything positive about CC.
Great observation Cathy, well thought out. I believe that's a 3 pointer.🤔🤔🤔😌😌😌🤠🤠🤠
Regardless of the reasons for Cheryl Reeves more mature attitude, it is good to see from someone so influential in the W. I hope the rest of the league realizes the mercurial impact Caitlin Clark has had ushering in a whole new era of "W" basketball and these next few years will not only showcase the entrance of new potential superstars but also showcase the incredible play and talents of so many extremely skilled basketball players. Now the NBA needs to step in and do something about the Deloitte "Darling" Cathy Englebert and the crooked officials.
CAITLIN CLARK was RANKED by SPORTS PRO The #4 MOST MARKETABLE ATHLETE IN THE WORLD.
Wow!!! I did not know that. Great piece of info.😮😮😮🙂🙂🙂
...and by the way, bucko, this is Reeves expressing her desire for vengeance and justice.
Cheryl is a real head coach. She stood up for her players something Christy Sides never does!!
And was a main reason why CC wasnt on the Olympic team. And didnt give 2 shyts, or even one (her words, not mine), about CC and the new fans. Its crazy how fast people forget.
@@Smido83cause she's interested in her own team during the season. Y'all are way too sensitive.
@@billhicks808 And because she is interested in her own team she didnt want CC on the US team? Interesting...
@@Smido83 CC was a rookie still acclimating to the league. The best thing anyone did for Caitlyn last year was keep her off that team, give her a month off to process and prepare for the second half.... Where she put it all together and truly dominated. Wouldn't have happened if she was trying to learn a completely different offense and defense on the fly in the middle of the year.
This might completely shock you but the best coach in WNBA history might just know what she's doing..
@@billhicks808 Or... more likely... she didnt want her on the team, so that Taurasi can waste a roster spot to win her 6th gold?
Please explain why the manadoty training camp was hold during the Final 4... for the 1st time in history. Isnt that strange? When Taurasi entered the league they didnt do that, or when Stewart entered, or Parker... strange strange strange...
She is shameless..SHE SHOULD BE REPLACED with A MORE competent one referees included..Thuggy behaviors should never be excused nor tolerated if the WNBA is to flourish!!
I keep saying, women like Reeve and Swoopes are not stupid. They're playing the heel for ratings
Clark brought me in, hung with it, and watched the playoffs.
You just took my thunder, word for word. You win the Kewpie doll! Love it.😮😮😮😌😌😌🤠🤠🤠
I watched Clark play Minnesota everytime and was impressed how the Lynx played and how well they passed and each player was able to shoot the ball. Really hoped they would pull out the win for the championship. If the league can clean up the bad refs and the toxic players actions, there's hope for the WNBA.
Robin you are such a pushover when it comes to selective memory, quickness to forgive and forget and then snuggle up to a number of the W women who were lost but now claim to be found. Hallelujah! Cheryl and Angel are just the greatest! Game 4 and 5 of the finals were garbage - not a good showing for the W.
Reeves did the pricking. Sour grapes, sure? Local support is different from the support Caitlin got. Other teams are fortunate they could ride the wave. Show maturity Reeves! A 22 year old showed some. Could you flourish among such negativity? The whole of America zeroed in on this 22 year old. The last entertainer that had to live through such varied opinions that I can recall was Elvis. Everyone had an opinion regardless of age or race. Once they saw the good in him , most came around. Takes a unique individual to flourish under such negativity. I think they will see the good in Caitlin eventually. It will be good for the whole league. Love the Fever, love the WNBA! 😍💜🤩❤️🥰💜🥳❤️
Yes they rode it but not well.
Her decision of excluding CC in that Olympic team is the best thing that ever happened to Fever. I love CC but I do understand Reeves' decision to just give the spot to those vets. She could have worded her statement better but that's just the WNBA for you back then. They don't try to be more tactful with their words because no body cares a lot until recently 😅
I forgave her after that, she finally gave CC her flowers that's why I watch Lynx as well, player are competitive but not dirty players.
I like when she said, "The fans don't know what they're missing." Oh trust me, after watching that Finals game, we know what we're missing. Bad basketball, really bad basketball!!!
I watch Clark highlights and get more excited than the playoffs and championship.... Nothing taken from either team... They all did their job, Phee was my favorite
Maybe it was because of Cheryl Reeve's change of heart towards Caitlin Clark after the olympics that caused her to fall out of favor with the WNBA and Cathy Englebert which led to the Liberty clearly being given the trophy in the rigged playoffs (also see Fever vs Sun). Englebert sent a message, "STAY IN LINE!"
Didn't see coach Reeves give CC her due
CR not really giving due...proper due. For CC's (and her teammate's sake), this is great fuel. IF everyone actually gave her the due she deserves, I think that would actually be a bigger burden psychologically than to be continually disrespected which seems to only fuel her. Getting through this season is like having a couple of years of tough experience under her belt. She's a veteran now.
Sorry, I don't buy Reeves comments designed to fit the moment. Her, "I don't give two poops" comment spoke to me as arrogant and dismissive of the reporter's question. That it was about CC doesn't mean anything to me. Reeves is a very good coach, and if that is all that matters then ok, but I'd still take a quality person like Sides even if her coaching skills are not on the same level. I wrestled for six years, 6th through HS, making it to state quarter finals. I had a total of seven head and assistant coaches during that time. The one coach I think about today as someone who made a difference in my life would likely have been ranked lowest on a performance scale. But he was number one on a human scale, and was the coach who turned me into a winning wrestler.
Good story.
The most people ever watched the worst basketball ever. Not sure how that translates into more eyeballs next season.
I wonder why her thoughts changed so much? Maybe she received information that it was impacting them.
Her mindset changed.
I barely heard anything about Caitlin. You're giving her way too much credit. Cheryl Reeves is about Cheryl Reeves. Miss I give 2 shits.
She just couldn't say "the Clark effect " I know you contribute to SI, but give me a break. Stop being the CNN of sport.
I sincerely hope that, before next season starts, MOST OF US CC FANS WILL BE ABLE TO LET GO OF ALL OF OUR RESENTMENTS OVER WHO SAID WHAT ABOUT CAITLIN AND WHO DID WHAT TO CAITLIN, BECAUSE AS LONG AS WE HOLD ON TO ALL OF THIS ANGER AND RESENTMENT, SOME OF US WILL KEEP MAKING NASTY REMARKS ABOUT PLAYERS AND COACHES IN THIS LEAGUE AND THAT WILL FURTHER INCITE THEM TO HATE OR FEAR US. THIS WILL PERPETUATE A VISCIOUS CYCLE, AND THERE WILL NEVER BE PEACE!!!!! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE... JUST LET IT GO! FORGIVE, AND MOVE FORWARD. Let's take the high road so that next season we can actually ENJOY the games.
All of this started with the dismissive remarks made by Sheryl Swoopes (in Feb. 2024) because of her jealousy over the fact that Caitlin had broken her 1993 record for the most points recorded in a ncaa tournament. Sheryl tried to delegitimize Caitlin's record because, in 1993, the highest ranked teams in the ncaa tournament had a first round bye, so Sheryl scored her record in only five games, whereas Caitlin had six games in which to beat Sheryl's record. At that time, NONE OF US CC FANS KNEW WHY Swoopes was disrespecting CC and we were pretty upset about it (especially those of us who had also been fans of Swoopes - I was at the Final Four in 1993 and I saw Swoopes score 47 points in the championship game). A few weeks after Swoopes' comments began, Taurasi made her now famous remarks at the 2024 Final Four. We were getting pretty upset at this point. Suddenly, these TH-cam channels appear, claiming to LOVE OUR CC, and they also were "shocked and angry" over the disrespect being shown to CC. THESE CONTENT CREATORS WERE VERY CLEVER because they knew that 1) CC has millions of fans, 2) most of CC's fans didn't know very much about the WNBA, 3) CC fans generally tended to lean towards conservative or Christian values, and 4) if they played their cards right, they could make a fortune off of CC fans. So, every time anyone that had any association with the league said anything the least bit negative about Caitlin, they blew it all out of proportion and reported it on their channels with appropriate feigned indignation. They also magnified and exaggerated anything and everything they could possibly think of that could be perceived by CC's fans as negative conerning anyone associated with the WNBA. They intentionally and methodically introduced content day after day to cause us to develop negative thoughts and feelings towards the league and the "activist" players in the league. Day after day, after week, they worked to sow dissension, distrust, disgust, anger, and even hatred between CC fans and players and other elements of the league through exaggeration, half-truths, and outright lies. THEY KNEW THAT ONCE THEY GOT US TO BELIEVE THE LIES, CONFIRMATION BIAS WOULD PREVENT US FROM LISTENING TO THE TRUTH, SO THEY WOULD KEEP MAKING MONEY FROM OUR "CLICKS" AND SUBSCRIPTIONS FOR THE FORSEABLE FUTURE.
At first, I was even taken in by them, even though I've been watching the W since 1997. First, they just talked about the folks who said disrespectful things about CC, and I listened because I was really upset. It had never occurred to me that CC wouldn't be welcomed into the W with open arms. However, after about two weeks of watching these videos, I realized that they weren't telling the truth because I knew the players in the W, and most of what was being said about them was FALSE!!!!
I truly hope that those of you who have been systematically deceived by these channels will pull away from them and make a genuine effort to open your minds to the truth. YES, there was a grain of truth in their propaganda, but they made everything and everyone associated with the league seem so much worse than they really are. There are problems in the league that need to be fixed - first and foremost is the officiating. It must be greatly improved for player safety and fairness of the games. However, the league, and the vast majority of the players are not as they have been described by these channels. Try to break free of these channels and make an effort to find channels with a more positive outlook. May God bless you all.
Wow, you really thought this thing out! I did read all of your comment. It was so good that a couple of points I slightly differ on I will choose to not comment on. I would rather have your thoughts stand alone. You are a great "W" fan, a thinker to help level our thoughts out. Good to have such a positive in fluence among us. I go back to 1997 as a fan. When Grizz cam e to Memphis in 2000, as a season ticket holder I got totally into the team. It wasn't until this year I got back into the "W". I' m all in now. My favorite league now, who would have thunk it? Big Fever fan, love Caitlin to death. Love the whole WNBA and can't wait for next season. What a ride this season was! Feel like Fever Fans are family. Love you Katharine, love your mind! Guess I will see you next season.🤔🤔🤔😌😌😌😍😍😍🤠🤠🤠
"Whatever the reasons were"; "There was one really big reason" -- too bad she couldn't seem to bring herself to say Caitlin Clark's name after that first mention about the excitement about the draft, before the season began, about a player that wasn't even going to the Lynx. "Cait - lin- Clark" -- it's only three syllables, ladies. It's not that hard to say.
I am sorry... after I really tryed, the game 5 cured me completely. The refs were one thing. But whatever the players tryed to do out there, it wasnt Basketball. I cant watch this anymore... I will watch CC and Fever games, thats it. The rest of the WNBA can do their thing... I will just ignore it. Call me every -ist , or -phobe you can come up with. But I also do not watch low level football for example (I am german), even if I played it myself for nearly 20 years. Cause the games are just awfull to watch. But I did watch a 2nd division YOUTH basketball game this year here in germany. Just for fun, cause I was invited. The quality was better then game 5 of the finals. Talent on the court, coaching, officiating... everything was better... and that game was extremely bad in the 1st place if you are used to Euroleague, or NBA.
Good comments, I almost don't dislike Reeve as much as I have in the past 6 months. Believe it or not, Caitlin Clark brought the fans EVERYWHERE. People actually decided that women's basketball wasn't such a bad sport and after seeing her play, the game has seen new fans, especially when the Fever comes to town. Angel Reese could have done any number of things to help her cause and keep her membership if she would have stopped the "me me me" commentary and stopped trying to bury Caitlin. I guess the Bayou Barbie is going to end up back in the Bayou with the gators and other snakes. I doubt that Chicago is giving her any love.
The Liberty and Lynx are classy teams that play quality basketball.. Huge fan base. Thats what people want to see. Not Chicago gutterball.!
ONCE AGAIN the NBA didn't have 10 talentless people BRICKING lay ups
Tell us why you're mad, but still watching.
@@Bangs_Theory I watch to give it a chance....got mad because I saw brick after brick after brick...and these were lay ups
Amen stephen.Wait ,they dont want to say her name,they will have to next year.Even cherlReeves,spit out say her name,She it the new prophet of the wnba.
For the WNBA Finals Game 5 to draw 2.15 million viewers on a Sunday night, going up against the NFL's Sunday Night Football (N.Y. Jets vs. Pittsburgh) and the MLB's NLCS Game 6 between the New York Mets and Los Angeles Dodgers was impressive.
Clark would have had at least 5 million
If it wasn't for CC, I wouldn't have found Alanna Smith❤
Love Smith too. Hope that injury has nothing to do with a hip pointer, does worry me. We can all think CC for a lot of good.😌😌😌😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤠🤠🤠
So why wasn’t Reeves commenting positively before? She is not good for the league as a representative. She is unlikable and crass
Hopefully all are now convinced that caitlin is a great white equivalent to bird. Respect to that white girl. She did the damn thing.
Yeah WNBA wokeness was exposed...as CC doing the right looking for the growth of their sports trying to get women financially grow as well yet..how they treated her is awful and the organization won't admit that CC is the reason for all these...
Fix final😂filled to the brim?!?!? When almost give the ticket prize😂😂
What praise , , I for one won’t forget she was the main reason ,Clark didn’t make the Olympic Team, Along with Taursai, A’JA , Some on the select committee, , The bs excuse , She needed the break , People say , she can play in the next one , Thats a gold medal gone , She can never get back, The only reason Reeves ass was saved ,was the refs gave so many calls to the USA , They won by 1 Point, You have selective memory , Its catching, You said you were at two games at the finals , Packed to the rafters, When next season starts , Will they be packed to the rafters for opening games , Clarks will be , She went on national TV and said , I DONT give 2 Shits about Clark, Now you say , She praised Clark , Really, A Leopard does not change his spots , THERE ARE NONE SO BLIND AS THOSE WHO WILL NOT SEE
Cheryl Reeve is smart - she knows CC’s rookie deal won’t last forever and the Lynx have a reasonable shot when it does end.
Doubt it.The WNBA,has a wage scale.There is only so much Clark can make.Now with the current CBA,being opted out by the players.Plus the $2billion tv deal.Players will make more.But the Indiana Fever, would have to be out of their minds,to let Clark leave.She is literally making the Fever millions of dollars.Through ticket sales,merchandise sale.Concession sales.Etc.
Stolen Grapes is when you dismiss the importance of thing you were seeking. Reeve didn't do THAT!
Sour grapes.
I really like you. You're a good guy. But sometimes your delivery comes across with the density of a Neutron star .
If the rest of the league comes around I might get interested. It's hard not to meet bitterness with bitterness. Still there is ESPN's aweful coverage and bias. CC fans can be won over, but not with hate and bitterness.
I actually like her. She rubs people the wrong way because she’s so brash and not politically correct but it’s refreshing. She was under so much pressure before the Olympics and I don’t blame her from being irritated being asked certain questions.
Also: She wants Caitlin bad. On her basketball team I mean. She dreams of having a player like Caitlin playing with Collier. Can you imagine?
But she still doesn’t have the guts to actually say Caitlin Clark’s name. Those who do have the guts will rise first in national fan admiration. Why? Because Caitlin Clark is a freaking future Golden goose!
Saw it twice. Where did reeves praise CC? There were a half @$$ acknowledgement. But i do see what you're trying to do. Nice.
Thank you.... 😂 The Delusion is real.
Ok, Coach Reeve has had a "come to Caitlin" moment. Have to give her props for what seems to me to be the 1st time she has mentioned CC in a truly positive way. By no means do I mean to downplay that, even though Coach Reeve is a little too old skool for me... (On another unrelated to this topic, issue, she has not thrown her team under the bus at all. IMHO, there Were a couple of Lynx players who choked pretty badly, although not nearly so bad as Breanna & Sabrina...) What IS missing from both her summation of the season, and yours, Robin, is the insanely toxic way many of the wnba players view Clark. I personally have lost a lot of respect for some of the biggest starts in the W" because of this. They can't begin to see just how much Their lot in life has improved with Caitlin playing this year. Not going to analyze it here, That has been beaten to death by some pretty bright folks. However, until that changes I am not confident that the kind of growth of interest in the "W" that we have seen this year, can possibly been sustained for any real growth to take place. Not sure how to change this dilemma, but somehow, some way, this issue needs to be dealt with. Is it gonna take Caitlin suffering some viscous career ending injury? I sure as hell hope not....
Say what you will about toxicity, Coach Reeve is 100x the coach that Sides will never be. And backs up her players.
So now Reeve gives 2 💩💩's about the fans CC brought in ?
Well tickets to the fever wasn’t selling tickets at $5 to $10 so there was know money made
I am STILL NOT INTERESTED in the WNBA as a league. The players are TOXIC. I still haven't watched a game. I just watch Caitlin's highlights. I don't care if the other teams win or lose, so they don't have my support.
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I became a WNBA fan because of Caitlin and the Fever is my team. However the Lynx is my second fav team because of Phee, McBride and Alana Smith. Also coach Reeve is an outstanding coach and I've grown to admire her.
You do know she was one of the main reasons CC wasnt on the olympic roster... right?
Me too.. william jumpshot and my beautiful carleton.
I think the TH-cam TV thing has something to do with New York games. Or not sure if other games made you watch wnba. Only if you watch New York games then you have to watch wnba.
So everyone on TH-cam who wanted to watch Jets-Steelers and/or Mets-Dodgers had to watch the game on a 3 way split screen... and all those views count into the 2.15 Mio. Could be 500k, could be 1 mio. We will never know. Cause neither the WNBA or TH-cam will ever admit it.
Did not think of that, who knows.🤔🤔🤔
Sounds like she just remembered that Caitlin Clark grew up a Lynx fan and might be inclined to play for them some day...
About time....mea culpa😊
Reeves is now likable, bc she took a step back from he precipice of dei. It looks likes she sees the disaster of what dei has done and will do to the league if it is not minimized. Her attribution of CC to the new success of the league is a first step in players, coaches, refs, owners change towards professionalism
Is this an audition for Fever coach?
as much as i cant stand Reeves........ she is literally a grumpy old defensive genius that has one superstar player on offense......who does that sound like 🤔🤔🤔 oh.......she is the BILL BELLICHEK OF THE WNBA!!!!!!!
Should have fought more for her star player during game 5 in the moment....not at the post game then let it out. If they stile ut you had to let them. Not next season.
In my humble opinion - I know. I have much to be humble about - The Lynx won the game ie. Championship. If it was a regular season game I would still be writing the same thing. I’m all about fair play above all else . The refs calls showed blatant bias against the Lynx. If one reviewed the entire game from all camera angles you would see how the stats were different from the reality. Phee Collier was the MVP hands down ! Breanna, and Sabrina were terrible ,Jones got away with low level assault . Breanna looked like she was teaching a dance class with a ball in her hands. Sabrina would have needed a ladder to make a bucket. On the others side Williams was not only a ball hog she couldn’t make a shot in the last quarter yet Reeve kept her in the game. That I don’t understand. Phee got called for fouls that didn’t exist . Look at how many free throws Minnesota took as opposed to New York. As has been said ad nauseum Cheryl Reeve was not liked by many people, Indiana fans in particular * . With that said. Kudos to Reeve for calling out the officiating which was the worst, and appeared to corrupt or totally inept. Reeve is a contrarian opposed to Christie Sides whom let CC get called for technicals when she could have stepped in, which she did twice early in the season; however, when it really counted after the Olympic break she was crickets .
And so it goes on this day October 22,2024
* Why do people not see the platinum lining in that kerfuffle ? That break gave CC, KM,AB,LH - Smith ? - time to rest,and practice. CC had not had a break since Iowa . What a difference a day makes …
She can grasp that more than one thing can be true at once. The league was growing before the arrival of this rookies class, this rookie class as a whole brought a whole bunch of new eyeballs to the league, Angel Reese, Alissa Pili, Leonie Fiebich, Cameron Brink, and all the rest brought in their own fan bases, and finally but definitely not least the the Caitlin Clark. Which is all riding the wave of NIL and womens collegiate sports. Very rarely does an event happen in a vacuum exoept in outer space.
No. Caitlin is the only relevant WNBA player.
Well you got Cameron Brink right. Angel Reese ?
@fauxblonde I only recognize one of those names you listed in the class of 2024 rookies. Cameron Brink, and I don't know if she ever built much of a fanbase prior to her knee injury which was unfortunate. Kate Martin, who was a college teammate of Clark was drafted 18th by the Aces, and is 4th in jersey sales, so Iowa had 2 rookies as well as a veteran in Megan Gustafson who was drafted a few years earlier, 2019 I believe. You left out Angel Reese, but she blew out her own candle. She may have caused Chicago to have fewer fans except when the Fever came to town, and they came to see Caitlin, not Angel.
@@mcanqbCameron Brink is a baller. Had her season not been plagued by an injury she would have been part of the conversation with CC . She I think was the number two draft pick. She’s tall, and thin. Would love her to be on the Fevers front five … Ps. Her, and CC would have to have a shoot out for #22 :)
Excuse me no. The league wasnt growing before Clark. It did had an upwards trend but for something to grow it has to be bigger than it was & since 2020 the numbers never surpassed the early years. This is the first time arenas got full at actual decent ticket prices. Not for free or for the price of a coffee.
Across the league? You were the first complaining that the league was not about one team or one player. Any game that does not include CC is a non event and trying to make it sound otherwise is denying reality. You just have to look at audiences and viewership that does not include CC to grasp what is going on.
"Any game that does not include CC is a non event", are you sure about that? Last I checked, CC wasn't playing in the Finals
@@Bangs_Theory If the only time you can attract a crowd is during the finals compared to someone who constantly attracts a crowd whether it’s on tv on the road or at home during the regular season. Maybe the rest of the league has a few crumbs to eat before getting there. Especially when even during the playoffs they were selling seats at bargain bottom prices to try to fill the seats. While the girl fills 17 000 - 20 000 venues at never before seen sky high prices for the WNBA. But let’s just stick a finger in our eyes and one up our ass3s in pretending that both phenomenon are comparables.
@@michelleblanc6377 The entire playoff had high ratings/viewership. There's been a tremendous increase of interest in the WNBA. Yes Caitlin Clark surely had a large attraction, but for some odd reason you and your ilk want to attribute all of the interest solely to Caitlin. Caitlin isn't the sole reason for the increase in viewership.
@@Bangs_Theory People like you can’t even read numbers and dollars, Games were sold at basement bargain prices during the playoffs and viewership even though they were bigger than they were last year when you compare year to year were still way below what CC attracted during her series with the Sun. But let’s just pretend that 3 millions is the same as one and when you rig the numbers by forcing people to open a WNBA viewing screen to listen to either NFL or MLB games. Let’s just pretend that it was not happening to skyrocket a nonexistent audience.
And still lose $40M
Sorry, too late.
I can't respect Reeve. She's just too obnoxious with pushing destructive political agendas.
So now you do give 2 shite when it affects you. Not a good leadership quality, Cheryl.
She is the best coach and protects her players. She would have CC in a snap
She has actually said that (your latter statement). Amazing, because I think it's CC in action again, slowly winning over even the most intractable.
One of the reasons I unsubscribe was how you just won't just be honest ....if TH-cam had to manipulate the situation to get people to watch MEANS THEY WERE NOT WATCHING....the put it with MLB and NFL...and you couldn't get it unless you subscribed to WNBA...now come on...!!! The stands were filled but what were the tickets prices...the Merchandise sales were great BUT THERE WAS A REASON THEY DID NOT LIST THE AMOUNTS...now the WNBA opted out of the CBA agreement...I am a BW and this is the entitlement of women thinking they deserve more that why the NBA should have given a time frame on the time they would subsidize the WNBA...these women or the union apparently don't get YOU DON'T GET PAID MORE WHEN YOU DONT TURN A PROFIT...now they are going to find out why the investors who have made no money from WNBA are not giving more money.... especially when they had a cash cow but egos could not handle it...
NBA owns 50% of each WNBA Team. DALLAS WINGS owners own the other 50% . They sold 1% for $2,040,000 in mid 2024. Valuing Dallas @ a WHOPPING $204,000,000. Big money is coming tothe WNBA. it regardless of missed layups, air balls, BODYCHECKS, bad free throws, physical approach, refereeing, fake double doubles, dramas galore , on and off the court. The WAVE is here. Sorry to see you go and also Robin did not ask me to write this. I live in Australia. Welcometo the brave new world. !!!! 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😉😉😉
@Robin Lundberg What do you want us all to do, build a giant gold statue of Caitlin Clark and worship her? Yes Caitlin Clark brought eyes to the WNBA, but she had a huge help and her name is Angel Reese!!!! The media/fan-generated Rivalry created a huge influx of new eyes to the league. That's a fact that cannot be refuted.
lol... noone would know who Angel Reese is without CC. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. The only reason people know her is because she mocked CC in the championship game. So every CC hater had someone to cheer for! Did Reese sell out every away game she played in this season? Did teams have to change arenas and increased ticket prices by 500% when Reese came to town? Did Reese play in this years NCAA final? The 1st womans final in NCAA history with higher numbers then the mens final?
Reese is only famous because of CC. And she knows it as well. Cause whatever she talks about, she allways has to bring CC up. But go on, live in your delusion. CC is by far the biggest star women's basketball has ever seen. Reese is at best a distant 2nd, cause she is riding the CC wave.
@@Smido83 No one would care who Caitlin was except for those who have been following her if she didn't lose to Angel Reese and feeling sorry for Caitlin after receiving 5 fingers 🖐🏽to the face by Angel. It's a Fact and it will never be refuted. And Btw you're I damn sure wouldn't have know who Angel was if it was for the five finger mocking, but because of what she did it changed the WNBA forever and now I am a bonafide fan!!! Just like you!
There was never a rivalry, only in some people's minds. Reese effect was minimal compared to Caitlin. Viewership proves that. Angel needs to present herself in a more positive manner. Ego is good until you go overboard which she did. The things you say will stay in people's minds. She has a lot of work ahead of her if she even wishes to change all of that. I hope she does, time will tell. Caitlin never got heated over remarks said about her even over all the physical abuse she took. Because of this, she doesn't have to eat her words. Not so with Reese. Caitlin was the wave the WNBA rode this year. The finals were intense and showed it was a good wave. I don't dislike Angel, I just believe she needs to mature.🤔🤔🤔