Should you buy the Volvo EX30 in Australia? YES and NO....
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- Should you buy the Volvo EX30 in Australia? YES and NO....
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Sam, if your comparing the model 3 performance against the ex30 twin motor, which would be within .1 sec for 0-100. as of today - Aussie pricing for the tesla performance driveaway is $90k. the ex30 twin motor is $73k driveaway. that is a $17k difference. not $1k. i mention this because the standard model 3 is 0-100 in 6.1 seconds, in case thats what you were comparing.
These are f00lish tesla fans bro don't even bother to feed them information that they are evading in the first place. He is a clown
I own a LFP Model 3 but damn this Volvo looks "Great".
3 looks better, at least some versions, 'highland' will be incrementally but significantly better still.
Aesthetics aside I bet a week of driving Volvo would make you anxious to get back to the 3--software & compute, efficiency, proven.
Take 2: 7:00 those pointless fender haunches and utility killing angles/edges, wheels hanging out in space like a sloppy '70's American land yacht or clumsy SUV, make it look ridiculous and ugly...I gave it a chance, lol.
@@Mrbfgray Well, eveyone has their own preference. To me, Model 3 and Y are two of the few cars that I would label them ugly.
JUST PRE-ORDERED! It will replace my Volvo C40 which I thought was fun at 0-60 in 4.6s, but 3.4s? YES. Also, it's my personal commuter so I'm ok with the smaller size. This will be fun!
@@stevenjones916someone will be driving his C40 so that will mean an extra EV on the road. 😃
@alyssa vasquez Do not treat your cars so badly. I have no such issues with any of our cars :)
Only car like that would probably be Tesla...
It does NOT weigh 2338kg. That is Max capacity not Curb weight…
Never been more excited over a Volvo!
Very seriously thinking of getting the performance bargain of the year - the Twin Performance Ultra version in my business with no Fringe Benefits Tax - as my daily commuter and family run about.
It is quicker and $25k less (albeit smaller) than the Tesla Model Y.
All Volvos where rear wheel drive until the mid 90’s then AWD & Rear wheel drive for most with a few front wheel drive.
They have gradually gone front wheel drive in the last 20 years.
Totally agree with your comments regarding HUD. Once you have one, you rarely look at the instrument binnacle. The only missing feature in my model 3 that I think should be included as standard is a HUD, but have fitted an aftermarket device. BTW, have done the same with all of our family cars.
I just wanted to say a big thank you on making such practical videos with great analysis. You don’t just talk about specs, which as a non-car person, I don’t really understand.
Your analysis really breakdown the specs into really world application which I really appreciate.
I put in an order an order for XC40 recharge last year and was thinking of cancelling to order the EX30 because of the value. May concern was about the size. And your video is literally the only video that gave me any practical comparisons on size and the usage. I think I’m going to stick with the XC40 as I want something a bit bigger.
Anyway, just wanted to say ‘Great job!!!’ Really enjoying your videos, even for a non-car person. 😊
Thanks Mate!
@@electricviking The acceleration of the RWD model 3 definitely needs an improvement. I want to see 5s 0-60 on the Model 3 highland rwd.
Volvo did do rear wheel drives in the pre-90s people often use them as drift cars.
Thanks Mr Viking! An honest, straightforward review is a refreshing change from the 'bells and whistles' reviews.
Already ordered one in Melbourne yesterday mate. 👍🏼
Wayne, how did you place an order? I thought the Australian order book is not yet open?
@@ralphgyoery9247 that is what I thought too but decided to pop my head into a dealer when I drove past one. Low and behold, they took my order and there were already 7 other orders!
What colour combo did you choose?
When did they estimate delivery?
@@johndeveraux8472 vapour Grey with Mist interior.
I expect one reason for the screen being vertical is that there are climate control vents on both sides. (It's also vertical on the EX90.) As to it being a bit porky I'm guessing that was demanded by the engineers to produce a door thunk worthy of a Volvo.
its a volvo thing for screens to be vertical. its on their dna y know
"...a door thunk worthy of a porky Volvo." 🤣😂🤣😂👍✌️
@alyssa vasquez based on what report?
@@andrewsaint6581 that seems to be only sentence he can write ... maybe does not even understand what it means :)
Love volvos, our atto 3 replaced a volvo, almost didn't buy the atto 3 due to smallish boot, this volvo with pathetic boot is a no no for families, we are loving the atto 3. The duel motor makes sense in this car as a hot hatch, but the other 2 variants are not worth it imo.
Volvo's in the 50', 60's, 70's and early 80's used to be rear wheel drive, my grandfather had a 1973 Volvo P1800 wagon in Puerto Rico and it was rear wheel drive and it's style of rear opening window looked like what it now called a shooting brake. He kept it for 24 years and every where he drive it it always attracted a small crowd of people saying they could believe that it was a Volvo. I really wished that Volvo made a modern BEV take on the P1800 wagon. Still modern Volvo's do look much better than what they used to look in the past, way nicer indeed 👍, and the new line up of Volvo BEV'S all look good 👍.
The 850 was the switchover to FWD.
I had a 2006 Scion (Toyota) xB in the US, which had view screens and controls in the center of the dashboard. No instrument panel directly in front of the driver. The 2004 to 2006 xB's were like this, and the re-engineered larger version 2008 to 2015 also had only center dashboard instrument panel with controls. I had no problems with this dashboard setup, and really liked that car. I later turned it over to my younger niece and her husband, who also really liked the car.
I think in Europe the smaller volvo is the smarter choice, because the roads and parking are smaller. Tesla model 3 and Y look actually quite big and cluncky on the European roads. Tesla model S and X are simply huge cars.
What I would like to see though is that the front bonnet gets smaller and compensated for more interior space, similar to what VW is doing with their ID3 Cupra Born and ID buzz. I think the huge front bonnet design is getting old fast.
I think the only minor issue I have with the eX3 is the rear passenger space is small, at least what I've see in current first impression reviews so far. I don't understand why automakers can do better with that. In my view the beste compromise is making the rear bench as a sliding bench standard. This was you can more easily choose leg room over bootlace. I think that is more practical in daily use case, than a fixed space with smaller boot and rear passenger space. In that case I think all those cars have a design flaw.
Hopefully Volvo EX-30 will come with a head-up-display.
I spoke to the dealer about this, no it won't
The centre screen allows the same format for left and right hand drive cars. Only the steering wheel has to be swapped.
One big advantage of the Volvo EX 30 is that they use Google Automotive software. For me, that's a game changer. I love that. Also, since I live in Mexico with no Tesla service center nearby, Volvo would be a better choice for me. As always, a great video. Thanks Viking
Exact opposite for me - being FORCED to use anything Google is a negative.
Regarding weight of a car...
I actually prefer a car to be a bit on the heavier side as long as that does not kill the range or performance.
Makes it steadier on icy roads in the winter time.
I actually switched into a heavier car once and bought it for that reason primarly since I was to commute daily about 250 km on a fast highway at winter time.
In Sweden Volvo EX30 base model sells only with a LFP battery.
The last RWD Volvo was in the mid-90s with 960/940/S90.
It should be my 1998, Volvo 940 Classic.
Great looking car, great size for most people. Plenty of power even in base version.
I placed my pre-order deposit for my EX30 about 2 weeks ago. Quite excited.
Another review of the Volvo took length/width measurements of the boot and they were better than I was expecting. I wonder if the 61L under the "floor" is NOT included in the stated litres volume? Those figures usually only go up to the cargo blind, so being a hatchback, you'll get the extra space above that compared to a sedan.
Sorry Sam, I have to disagree on this one. Those of us that love hot hatches truly care far more about agility and handling than straight-line speed. It takes zero skill to accelerate from the lights and Its more for those who like bragging at the pub about how fast their car is. Driving along coastal or mountain roads is still a highlight for many of us that value driving dynamics and although we are a massive minority, we are a big portion of the hot hatch buyer market. The Alpine A290 will fit the bill.
Great video and agree on everything. I'm a big fan of decent sized boots too, and this is a bit small. Great looking car but the boot would make me look elsewhere unless this was a 2nd run-around car, but could be too pricey for that alone.
Small car! YES!!!!
I would buy BYD Seal
I need to order one of these...thanks Sam. It's a no brainer as far as I'm concerned.
I can't wait till this comes!!!! As a Model Y owner, I'm keen to try this out for a few weeks just to see if it's better than a model 3 as a second car.
Ordered Ultra Twin today…16th order in the beautiful city of Melbourne..Volvo Aus contacted straight away to confirm..they must want to put the Aussie order in..test drive December…pickup January..
Ideally the screen should be larger and landscape orientation.
Hey Sam ' obviously Hemp does not sound like it's related to electric even though some have posted about hemp batteries - Anyway I wonder if you would consider how efficient hemp buildings are when speaking about heating and cooling of home environments as Australia would do well with use of this design not just because wild fires cant burn them down but their thermal efficiency would save much on energy use and expense
Ordered mine 3 weeks ago!
Hi, loved this video. Will hopefully get one before the end of 2023.
I have only recently discovered your channel so may be talking out of turn, but I'm wondering, why you don't discuss more in your videos about the environmental aspects/ethical considerations of the cars you review? I don't mean as regards the emissions once on the road but aspects such as human rights abuses (cobalt mining by children in the DRC, pollution affecting health of community in battery manufacture areas in China, Urghur, Tibetan etc forced labour in factories etc) involved in their manufacture. Volvo surpasses all other brands I think, in accountability at various stages of production which was why I was interested in one from the start. Cars in general are bad in terms of carbon footprint but Volvo are best. The price was prohibitive before but with the EX30 they are more affordable.
Where did the space went to ? Small boot space, cramped rear seats. But this is the same platform as smart #1 and Zeekr X where the rear passenger legroom is very generous
Plenty big enough for me.
Volvo is more than 200mm shorter than Zeekr X. It is small(est) Volvo. It was designed to be small for people who does not need much space...
I read that the Smart 1 shares the same platform with the EX 30 as will the Zeeker X. The Smart 1 is receiving allot of favorable reviews it seems, I bet the Volvo will do the same. I agree, this car is going to be a huge hit if Geely can meet demand.
Our old 2003 Toyota Yaris had the dashboard binnacle in the centre of the dashboard, just like Tesla and Volvo EX30, albeit obviously not an iPad style but you get it!
So did original mini.
You get used to it.
One thing you didn't mention, it can tow! Unlike the Atto3 and Model3.
My old M3 could tow 1000 kg.
Sure is heavy enough.
volvo ex30 prices goes from $60.000 for the standard to $70.000 for the performance one. model 3 prices goes from 61.000 for the standard to $87.000 for the performance one. the standard ex30 does match the price for the model 3 standard but for the performance models there is a difference of $17.000 which is a lot. also the model 3 performance in australia model does not do 0to60 in 3.1 seconds. it does in 3.3 seconds comparing with volvo 3.4 seconds. ALSO the volvo ex30 is a more complete car and has things like: ambient light, more powerful Wireless charging, better sound system from harman kardon, better cameras because tesla cameras are just ok, also self parking probably coming as standard.
Sometimes bigger is not better... can't believe i said that. Anyway the volvo will be easier to park in Europe as the parking spaces are not so big.
I know its not new or EV but the 2005 to 2009 yaris had no dash cluster in front of the driver.
It's only a little heavier than my 2013 24kw Leaf and is probably very close to list price. I certainly don't have similar range, comfort or performance.
After a bit of research it’s something in between car. No HUD spec on the website and No VTL and smaller than the Niro EV. Pity cos I really wanted to like this car. The payment method is also very odd. We will try to get a test drive but it is likely to be more out of curiosity than serious purchase.
Didn't Mini Coopers used to have the speedometer in the center of dash? Still do maybe?
Volvo 340 was rear wheel drive but used a stand clutch for a auto , was weird . Keep smiling everyone
Geely owns Volvo and the EX 30 will be their first BEV in America. I hear good things, but execution usually presents unseen issues. I personally like the package it is aesthetically pleasing. Bodes well for the brand, but since only time will tell the true value I will sit back and watch.
AU$60k for the base model. Looks great but…………….
All 140 series Volvos were rear wheel drive.
Fiat Multipla dash was actually a percursor to any central screen. It was miles ahead, should exist today with a batterypack underfloor. Yes it already had a double floor (built for natural gas tanks on top of the regular petrol tank). Even the gear shifter was already where Tesla is planning to put theirs.
I actually saw a Multipla on the road yesterday. Did you have to remind me of that traumatic experience? ... Just kidding, under the abominable exterior it did actually have some real design innovations.
Nup, hate the fact there's no panel at the steering wheel and only the centre console. Even if there's a heads up display. It's the one thing I hated about Tesla. Call me old fashioned. Lol
Looks like a nice car and i have a model 3 SR
Whats the Suzuki 48 volt all about?
Impressive ❤
Sorry if I missed it but I believe pricing for AU is not confirmed yet. Where is the 60k mentioned in the video coming from?
Just looked it up, all Australian models use nickel-manganese-cobalt battery, I’m staying as far as I can from that.
Great looking car ❤
City parking! You forgot city parking! European cities require a certain compactness, parking spaces are often standardized to 5m max, and too many expensive EVs are 5m. Can't park. But this car has all the benefits of compact while offering more range than a Mini or Fiat500 (which have great cabrio's - wonder if that is coming) .... Success with the treatments! Joe Dispenza's books can provide support and treatment (just another option!).
Morning mate
Grate ❤
2023 year best Manufacturing in auto industry all Cridet goes to Auto engineers all the best
I know there is Australian dollar conversion but all EVs seem more expensive to me! I almost wanted to buy one of these until GM announced they are going to convert to the Tesla charging standard and could be making an Ultium Bolt!
Equinox is the 'replacement', but it's bigger and more expensive. No thanks
@@jamesvandamme7786 Just because it’s a similar price and all the news media says it’s a replacement doesn’t make it so! GM has said that the Equinox EV isn’t a direct replacement for the Bolt EV and the CEO even hinted at their development of a Bolt EV Ultium replacement.
fantastic
Thank you so much 😀
It’s not a Volvo, it’s another Chinese car with a Volvo badge and even though it’s nearly as heavy as a model Y but smaller It’s efficiency is still lagging behind Tesla and others.
Mind you this is a wake up call for Tesla, the model 2 had better be much more stylish and have about 250 miles of range and that will kick this into touch.
You are a pretty fan aren't you of tesla. tesla didn't even promise dates and besides you are comparing something that doesn't exist no details nothing don't even know when it will be out maybe in 3 years or 4 years?
You think the world will wait for tesla? Think again.
MG xpower 3.8 for 60k - Volvo Ex30 P - 3.6 -70k , xpower normal dash and centre screen, whats that 10k getting me ? .2 of a second , you wont notice. More range possibly in the volvo ? Any highway ? Recently tested the xpower, corners well, nice interior, goes like stink, roomy for its size. Not sure volvo has the heads up?
So no heads up for the ex, same WLTP of the xpower, ex30 has 8 or so kwh more. Not a fan of glass roof here in Australia. Wireless apple play for `the ex30 , looks to be wired in the xpower. Ex30 looks nicer but bland. Its a hard pick
Seems like a nice car. Appears to look and feel like a Volvo. Not super keen on the cloth only seats in USA. I like leather or if not leather, a synthetic. I like being able to slide into a seat without fabric grabbing my pants and twisting my underwear and their contents all askew.
Storage kills EVs that's why the Model 3 & Y are so popular especially for families.
Got plenty for me
Nice
Very nice
240 wagon rear wheel drive. Please include the Europe USA price once
Why? That info is already known elsewhere
A wonderful
LFP batteries seem the way to go. Why don't Tesla / Volvo etc performance vehicles use LFP batteries?
Don’t quote me but I think NMC batteries are more capable of delivering more power faster from less batteries.
LFP batteries are safer and last longer, but they’re not the best performing battery for how quickly they can pump out energy
Tesla Model Y RWD in Aus uses an LFP.
I like it but worry it is built in China build quality and a lack of physical buttons for air conditioning
Plus not ‘all’ ICE vehicles have 12 month or less servicing. Zero research in that comment.
Guaranteed to get problems from dirty and contaminated oil if you go the “long life” route.
@@Harrythehun majority of new cars are 5 years then moved on. Brand new EV’s that have zero proven track record, enjoy finding out how reliable they are 😉
@@paulb1951 hasn’t Tesla’s, Nissan and Zoes been out there for years?
@@Harrythehun cheapest new EV’s start at $45k. Can get ICE version for nearly 20k less. Zoe isn’t on sale anywhere, Tesla’s retain their value, no value currently in the EV market in Aus. That’s why the electric Viking drives round in an ICE BMW when at home 😂
Love that Volvo
Will it beat the MG4 dual motor to showrooms?
not sure, other than to say i was considering the mg4 dual motor. but mg didnt announce timing for their performance version when they unveiled the mg4 pricing. I spoke to a local mg dealer and he wasnt aware on timing for the dual motor either.
if they release the other mg4 options in Sept this year. then its anyones guess when they will release the dual motor, it is on the Gov data base, so it at least appears to be coming at some stage.
for me the big difference was that Volvo told me they would be releasing their performance dual motor at the same time as the other versions, with demo vehicles hitting our shores later this year, and delivery in early 2024, including they are taking deposits for the twin motor. hope this helps.
MG told me last week the MG 4 X Power is not coming for the foreseeable. So I got my deposit back and today placed an order for the EX30 AWD.
I think the Volvo is a lot less likely to blow and catch fire though.
When does it get delivered?
If you place an order now, you'd be ordering the MY25 not MY24. Deliveries from end of Q3 2024 unless there's a cancellation for one of the MY24 preorders. I work at Volvo Cars Parramatta if you're still looking to pre-order feel free to reach out.
Sam, could u please help me out? Picking between MG4 dual motor and BYD seal, or better wait for BYD sealion - not much info out there. Thank you
Byd sells good in china. Much more than MG. So I think BYD is better choice. Chinese are most criticize customers in this world.
And if available I strong advice Zeeker 001. The best choice of my options. In china Zeeker 001 with 656KM battery cost 350K RMB almost 49K US$.
@@junguo3088 I am picking between the 2
And now I really would like to see this new Volvo in flesh as well 😀 but I think wife won't like it as it has super small boot 🤔
@@elrebelde4610 I haven't drive Volvo EV. It sells little in china. Maybe start a bit later than other brand. So I have no idea of EX30. I think it will be a bit expensive than MG4 and BYD. Whatever Volvo is a luxury brand.
Eyyy 😁
Volvo made rwd cars from the werry begin ing, untlill the late 90s.
The s/v90 of the 90s were the last thoug. I belive 99 is the last model year, before they endes production.
Look it up. Was awailable whit the legendary 3.0 streight 6 ❤
some prices at 5:35
The new XC40 is RWD, and the CX30 not as heavy as the model Y, thats the total load weight. I very much prefer Volvos car build, suspension, comfort, quality over Tesla, so this is a welcome addition to the market.
They're both made in china - that's how Volvo pulled this off. Very little difference between a China made Tesla and this I'm sure..
Thank you for this information.
I will not go for the dual motor.
However I will go for the long range.
But i am hesitating between start version and plus version.
What would you recommend ?
I prefer the smaller size
It's a small car or Hatch Back and it $60k for the basic model. Really???? Doesn't look very futuristic, just looks like a 1990's hatchback car. Think I will wait a while to buy a BEV. The 3 seconds to 100kph thing isn't worth anything. This is a 30-35k$ car being sold for too much money. Just saying....
The EX30 should do well in Australia. But they better get market share moving quickly before the Model 2 arrives. Tesla's cheapest car will likely eliminate all the compact SUV EV competition.
Based on Tesla's track record of going from announcement to actual production, that should be around 2028 ....
the Volvo is better Equip
Model 3 performance,3.1 seconds,0-60. So if you’re into street racing get ready to get beat by the 3.
There's not a huge amount in it though really.
Im a Tesla fanboy.
I would take this over a Tesla, its just a much nicer build.
Tesla's tech is better but their design and finish doesn't come close to the Volvo and Polstar cars.
The materials and the design ethos around recycling is awesome.
Volvo have really used this opportunity to reinvent the brand.
I love this brand.
Volvo never made rear wheel drive cars, LOL Volvo was the last brand who changed to frontwheeldrive beside Bmw and Mercedes That happened i the 90's
How long will it be before these ev manufacturers finally make decent in wheel motors ?
Why would anyone want THAT? Last place you want excess mass in in the wheels (unsuspended mass should always be minimized), terrible for suspension and efficiency plus abusing the motors.
@@Mrbfgray Do you have the ability to look outside of that small box ?
@@waynefergusson9987 Fill your car's tires 3/4 full of water and take it for a drive then get back to me.
Do you have any engineering background at all? I do...not that titles mean shit just real world study and experience.
@@waynefergusson9987 Aren't you in a box? I rethink machine design projects everyday. Some things are inherently WRONG--3 wheels vs 4 for example, 3 is *fundamentally flawed.*
Same for mounting motors in wheels to lessor degree, it's possible to have a decent *4 wheel* car with motors misplaced inside the wheels (not possible for a 3 wheeler to handle well at the limits, be capable swerving max, etc), still inferior.
Do you have any idea how hard it is? It's being done, but not for family cars. The cost per motor is way more more than for even the Plaid motor in the Tesla range. In wheel motors have been around since the first cars hit the road. They fell out of favour because they are too hard to engineer.
Model s PLAID 1.9 SECONDS 0-60 MPH.
I prefer the looks of the volvo over the bar of soap. Probably better quality too.
Lower efficiency, inferior compute & software, less value, less space, unproven.....
@@Mrbfgray I quite like the bar of soap look but the build quality has never been good at Tesla. No doubt they'll keep improving.
@@chrissscottt When's the last time you checked on build quality? Ask Munro maybe or anyone who's purchased 3 or Y in last yr. You are living in the PAST already. lol
@@Mrbfgray Munroe's a fanboy but I don't deny tesla efficiency. I keep a close eye on other reviewers too. Seems the Shanghai factory has the best qc.
@@chrissscottt Did you see Munro's 1st model 3 tear down? They panned the hell out of it (Elon agreed with their criticism), they are a fan of doing things right and Tesla learned and improved fast to the point the Y is the best they've ever seen in terms of design, and build quality issues vanished.
Notice how others are copying Tesla w castings, heat pumps and so on but have a long way to go. That Volvo is a TANK, extra mass damages everything about a car, including ICE cars.
From what I've seen, you wouldn't want to be having adults in the back for long trips, not if you care about them being comfortable.
So buy a Lincoln instead if that's what you need.
@@jamesvandamme7786 All good. I was just answering the question from the title of the video.
I just think it was poor design to have such small leg room in the back seat when it just needed a few more centimetres allocated to it.
Overpriced for a small Chinese car, esp. entry level. Should have instruments in front of driver in all cars!
no VTL.😢
It will not have a HUD
I’m not so sure about “the same range”. The EX30 has a 69 kWh battery and Cd 0,28 to the Model 3 with a 75-78kwh battery with Cd 0,23 ish. And an less you go for the top spec EX30 you don’t get all the safety features either. A full spec EX30 Singel motor extended rang has about the same performance and about the same range as Model 3 (sr). But if you want the same safety features you have to pay more. In Sweden that Volvo would be about 580.000 Swedish kronor to 498.000 for the Tesla.
It will sell in Sweden because many Swedes like Volvo. But I really don’t se why you should by buy the Volvo over a Tesla at that price?!? Tesla has so much more to offer, much better space and safety. Better technology and charging. The smart choice is the tesla.
At the moment, personal EVs are really no more practical than a glorified electric shopping trolley.
Tesla model Y will be the most sold carmodel on planet Earth in year 2023 and year 2024 😊
@@mikafiltenborg7572 That's because the are OK for people that are going nowhere. I would have one for just urban driving, but how boring that is.
Depends where you live and how good the charging infrastructure is. In the UK they are fine for long journeys, might not be the same in huge countries like Oz.
Well, you could certainly get to the next stoplight ahead of everybody else.
@@jamesvandamme7786 Yes, there is that.
The Electric Viking supports the EV from the land of the Vikings - except it's not, it's made in China. Oh well, Swedish design input has to count for something I guess...
I think the design input is from China too.
@@vasil7410 Is not
@@vasil7410 designed in Sweden, and if any country knows how to manufacture EVs right now, it's China. Seen the panel gaps on an early Tesla?
@@TheCrumbleOne I have a Chinese made Tesla. Very well put together and better paint finish than most cars I have owned, including Mercedes and BWWs.
Overpriced. Wish Australians could get the price of electric vehicles that they get in China.