WHEN SHOULD YOU TURN A JOB DOWN?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2024
- We haven't talked about this in this way before and I feel it's the perfect opposing side of the coin to hustle/take everything you can get. There has to be balance and you have to know where to draw the line for yourself personally. Where do you draw the line?
I’ve learned from my first job how important pricing is and when to walk away. I don’t regret the job because it was for a friend and it taught me allot of tricks I can use to make myself better and faster. It was a secured entryway gate. I under bid myself and it took 6 weekends for me to make, paint and install. I say weekends because I do have a full time job. By the end of everything and the hours I spent I would say I make about $2 an hour, gave me a bitter taste for a minute. I started to charge $60 an hour and extra for consumables and materials, basing it off an expected time frame for how long until the job is complete for giving quotes on anything. I still have lots to learn guess I’m a student for life. But back to the video if you have a set price don’t deviate because you made it for a reason and no matter what always do good work because reputation is key in a business.
Who dislikes these videos I mean this is just a man trying to make a living with his business but also try to help other people with advice
Great question;) LOL
Christopher Baker
I see comments like this frequently on videos like this and ones that are so “good natured.” Most of the time it’s just people that downrate anything and everything. It’s the opposite of the people that just like everything without even watching the video.
Your thoughts on work quality and reputation are spot on. A big rule I always followed ( most companies die from unregulated growth ) Never take a job that you can’t afford to NOT get paid for. If you can’t buy the materials and labor and get stiffed by the customer -- Pass on that job.
That's an interesting one I haven't heard before
@@Welderbeast I agree on this.been in the situation had to refinance my house to keep company going. Fortunately I had paid all my debts just needed the money to pay the tax man only to get it back 3 months later
scaife fab ha got to love it
Agree completely! Reputation will grow or kill a business. Explain that your work is professional because you are a professional and cannot take a job that would harm the business professionalism. If there are bills that must be paid..maybe cut a bit of a deal (any money is better than no money) but always explain you will NOT compromise your professionalism. Just my thoughts
Excellent point, I agree 100%
Yup Got a call last week for "months of work" doing tilt ups, 4- 6 rolls of 72 wire a week 65hr while I provide, 4 rolls of 13lb spools are roughly 320 a box where I'm at. The old timers I've talked to charged that over 10 years ago.My point is dont let the amount of work dictate your price they all promise "future work" 8 × outta 10 it dosnt happen. Side note: Not only are your losing out your self your creating unreasonable wages in our inflating economy for other guys in the same trade/service while raising a family.
I love your last point, it was something I missed in my video. Thanks for bringing it up!
I have turned down work because I work 60hrs+ at a full time job and I knew I couldn’t complete it in the time frame the customer wanted. I go after stuff I can schedule on the weekend an tell the customers upfront that I work out of town during the week and about my schedule and if they are ok with it taking longer (a few weekends) then I will take it if Ive worked for them before. I’m trying to stay away from anything I can’t do in a weekend because my schedule at my day job. My welding business is picking up but I haven’t got enough steady clients to support my family so I’m just going after the side hustle for now. ( thanks so much for sharing your experiences and giving advice, you have helped me tremendously with my business. If you ever come through south Mississippi I owe you a drink)
That's a great way to play your hand brother and you literally made my day to hear I've helped you and your business!
The customer doesn’t set the price, you set the price. If they don’t want to pay for it, that’s fine. The first thing to turn down are jobs that you can’t charge a fair price for, generally the really small jobs that present the potential for a big headache. You can handle it without being offensive by setting a minimum charge, presenting it that way, and sticking to it. The other are ones that are above your skill or production level. You don’t have to have done it before, but if you can’t do it properly pass it up. Same for something like handrails on 200 apartments that they need done in a week.
TY for todays topic, & I appreciate it, I am still not happy with situation, & as for your statement about bills, I could quit my job right now, & survive & pay bills, with just my wifes income, but I would need 5-6 years to be debt free, if nothing came up, where the way I am going, under 2 years to be 100% debt free, finally splurging very slightly since I paid my Harley off. as for my reputation to some degree mine in some ways is already shot to hell, I will never get people to stop hating me for the biker I once was, even in last couple of weeks, I was shown of a recent post on facebook, about me over incidents nearly 20 years ago, as well as people still hating me. yeah, as long as I live here, my biker rep will be my skeletons in my closets, plus I can still have "moments" when people push me too far, & then they want to play victim. but I don't go looking to get into problems for the fun of it anymore. as for my work, im a no-body a "ghost" so I am not known where I work, nor who I work for, but I still have my standards, & I refuse to ever waiver on safety, never have, never will, although todays society may say I do, by following old school ways, on things more taboo today, & I will not do anything else less than I need to make myself happy with.
Keep holding yourself to your standard, you are doing great!
Do it like breaking up with a chick." It's not you,it's me" ," I ain't good enough for yah"," I'm going through some things right now",remember the song " 50 ways to leave your lover"
Lol that's a great way to do it
Yea, turn it down if it's not safe.... great vid thank u.
Yes sir
I was going to say it, but I'm glad I waited and it was the first thing you said. 👍
Yes sir!
Just be promp, get there on time,earler the better, the work will get done when it gets done,do the best you can, keep in touch with your other freinds with portable rigs pass on the extra work to them,its a win win deal have a blessed day welders
Like a video I did if it doesn’t feel right like something’s seems off, did a video on it a couple weeks back and I’m glad I didn’t take that job because the person who did it(I know they do good work) is currently being sued by the customer, and that was the feeling I got.
If a customer who owns a construction company drives up in a bmw, Mercedes, Audi, etc. pass on the job because they only got that car because they are a rip off artist and it’s going to be you who gets ripped off working for them!
I agree with the first remark but don't personally believe in judging a man by the car he drives. That last remark implies that only crooks get rich and that's not true at all
Your truly right in many ways . Set your goals , focus on where your cutomer is coming from mentally is he taking me for granted or appreciate my skill .....you only have one shot on holding a good reputation ! Try not taking jobs bigger than you ..get a balance and take time refect on your specialty 😎👍 be creative ... weld to the point they need you .....
Once and done mobile welding 👊🤓
That's a good code to run business by
you turn down jobs like fuel tanks they wont let you clean out first, crappy jobs that will never turn out right and make you look bad, when the customer is a deadbeat.
Got to learn what to give on and what not to for sure
Ones I always turn away are the well so and so engineering will do it for x money. I always say best get them to do it then
Perfect response to a remark like that
Still can't find out a way to do this channel stuff! Supposed to do a respond video!
P.S. REPUTATION IS EVERYTHING!
When I mentioned the video forum I was more talking I will be posting videos on subjects and let you all answer your responses in the comments like a forum. I don't think you can comment with a video
Great advice. Thanks for the great videos!
Thanks for watching
I'm in Connecticut and with all the salt they dump on the roads in the winter I get a lot of calls for frame repair on cars and trucks. I stay away from those. People want the rusted , cracked frames repaired cheap so they can sell the vehicle. Way to much liability.
The majority of my Google calls are cast allimunem target Walmart Amazon tables chairs and or what have you, Trailers are a pain as well most people calling only figure material not labor unfortunately. Some how 50 -75$ per project has become par for these silly little jobs 😏
already turn town some rust repair, but people have no sense, a friend took a project in, bit off more than could chew, begged me, I flat out refused, he tried to make customer take vehicle back, but them threatening to sue, he finally hobbled some patches on what was major cancer, flaky rust, I figure it will still come back to bite him, but I said I would put a floor in it, but they didn't want to spend that kind of money, a local used car lot is buying a huge amount of cars from NY & Jersey & putting them here, & I see lots of issues that will happen fast, I just worked on a truck, & frame is already weakened, no weak spots YET, but plenty of hard rust already attacking frame & underside of the body.
It really is sad to see that humans would do that to other humans, just pay for a quick patch job so they can sell it to some unassuming soul
But, still major improvements versus what was done when I was just learning this industry, rust holes were stuffed with rags, newspaper, screen wire, even "kits" you bought at auto stores had screen wire to patch holes, then there is aluminum tape, used to cover holes, & people could and & feather edge & paint over, I have even seen mesh tape like used with drywall used to cover holes so only need a skim of filler. I started trying to learn industry 40 years ago, I have nearly seen it all, so a little bit of improper metal work, not repairing whole vehicle correct, but at least welding in new metal in some areas, but not hiding like once did, isn't no where as bad as I have seen over my life. I cut out body filler last year to replace with metal & had wadded up under pants used for filler from old repair, yeah someone stuffed that then filler to fill a rust hole, so times are better.
Randy mack that's good to hear!
Don't let anyone get your knowledge just because..
You make sure no one says ,, I pay you 40 $70 x per hour!!you always discos what you get pay,,, don't do work under pay .
How often do you compromise your integrity for the sake of money? I can imagine that customers want everything done as cheap & fast as possible. If work is slow it would be difficult to turn jobs down. Dealing with people is the hardest part of any job, not the job itself.
I personally have never compromised my integrity no matter what the customer wanted. If it didn’t set well with me I just didn’t do the job, money comes and goes. Never lose yourself by chasing money
LOL!
Allow me to refer back to the great BRIDGE debacle!
If it don't have engineering plan's, If MICKEY MOUSE is involved, Murphy's law ain't far behind you waiting to bite you in the ASS!!!
Also, if you DO go ahead and hob/gob something together for some jackleg outfit to their substandard specifications, and it FAILS,
You can be assured that a jackleg lawyer WILL soon appear, and if it involves injury or God forbid death SEVERAL lawyers will be there to insure your pockets will be picked clean forever.
Just ain't worth it.
Stay safe out there my brothers!
Oh I agree 100% learned the lesson once thanks to you all, I won't be needing to learn it again lol
Kinda like when you get asked to do a full kiln tire crack...🤦♂️