new Arduino GIGA - Is Arduino doomed?!?

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  • Just a couple of weeks after Tesla announced a multi billion investment in Giga Nevada, Arduino just launched the Arduino Giga! But can this high-end Arduino model compete with Raspberry Pi? Or is Arduino stuck in the middle? And does the Arduino Giga earn this name at all?
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  • @freakinccdevilleiv380
    @freakinccdevilleiv380 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is a much needed middle-ground board for robotics. Instant-On, no Linux bloat or tinkering, but still with decent vision capabilities.
    The only thing is the price, I thought it would cost half of that.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Half the price I would agree. Wouldn't the mega fulfil your requirements as well?

    • @LimbaZero
      @LimbaZero ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That basically STM32F746-DISCO without ethernet+poe, emmc, and display. They even have same size SDRAM but prize is little smaller. I think stm32f746-disco is 100-150e

    • @freakinccdevilleiv380
      @freakinccdevilleiv380 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@blueprintiot 🤔 From what I can see the Mega is not even close to this board.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว

      It isn’t really, anyone requiring this much processing power in robotics will probably just make a board and stick one of these chips on it and before that will use one of the dev boards from STM. You are trading Linux bloat for arduino bloat. The vision or graphics capabilities of a processor like this is no where near what you would get with even a pi zero 2.
      Most hobbyists are never going to use the full capabilities of a board like this, the only way that would happen is if arduino made vision processing extremely easy. Anyone who knows what they are doing will move away from arduino as soon as possible, it just abstracts too much away.
      Edit: I do agree that if it was cheaper it would be a more worthwhile product but my other points still apply.
      Edit 2: when the esp32p4 comes out I think that will be a very powerful chip, similar to this but a lot cheaper. It is a RISC-V processor and apparently has AI extensions which might give it an edge over this for vision, it also has a 2D graphics accelerator similar to the STM32H7 chips as well as all of the useful peripherals that are on most ESP32 chips. In addition to that it is dual core and runs at 400 MHz with a low power 40 MHz core as well. It doesn’t have any wireless communications so an external chip would be needed for that but it does have USB OTG 2.0 HS. If it is significantly cheaper which given espressifs track record it should be, then it will be a much better option than this.

    • @piotrcurious1131
      @piotrcurious1131 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you do not need linux on RPI, and boot is only marginally longer in thus case.

  • @jeanyluisa8483
    @jeanyluisa8483 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I think there is no point to compare a microcontroller board with a singleboard computer. You skipped one very important point for many µC projects and thats the powerconsumption.
    - Try to run a Raspberry on batteries and to save power by putting it into deep sleep and waking it up for some milliseconds only.
    - Try to develope an application on a Raspberry that runs reliable for many years with crashes, problems, damaged SD cards etc.
    - What about Security? On a Raspberry you are running a full OS that needs regular securty updates and patches or in other words regular maintenance. Otherwise your "little project" easily becomes a huge security problem.
    - Try what's faster for a spontaneous quick project - pluging an USB Kabel into an Arduino or preparing an SD Card, with OS and settings for headless mode or even connect a keyboard, Mouse and screen to use a Raspberry.
    Most things listed in this video were already valid when comparing Arduino Uno, Nano, Mini etc. with the Pi Zero. But Raspberry themself published another Microcontroller with the Pi Pico.
    I think the misconception about the Arduino Giga is that people compare it to things its not supposed to be.
    The Giga is a developement board which is meant for developing projects and not be used as a cheap, small controller in finished projects. So it doesnt make much sense to compare it with cheap ESP8266 and ESP32 boards either.
    On a developement board you want a quick and easy way to try things and to deveope your projects. Porting those projects to a smaller and cheaper hardware is a later step. This later step often is not done at all, because the project failed or people developed it just for fun.
    Developement boards also often are used for education. There its helpful to have many and different resources, pins and features on one developement board and the board. The price is not that important, because the developement board is not used for an end product that must be sold.

    • @TonyHA913
      @TonyHA913 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100% agree! I don't understand what is the point of this video! two very different products for different uses. It is like comparing Fridge to an Oven!!

    • @gedtoon6451
      @gedtoon6451 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TonyHA913 Not to mention the lack of an IDE to program a pi and store and execute code from flash memory on power up.

    • @artemt1987ify
      @artemt1987ify 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I agree with it. I just purchased Arduino Giga for quick prototyping. I need to test multuiple ideas and having arduino with analog pins + digital pins + arduino giga display in one package is the way to go for me. To find cheaper alternatives will come at later stages when prototyping is done.

  • @paulraymond1804
    @paulraymond1804 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm going to get the Giga when it's back in stock. My project is a waste oil heater. Needs over 40 pins. Four thermometers, status lamps, 2x LCD displays, rotary encoders, solid state relays, 3-4 LED digit displays, 2 hall effect sensors for blower RPM, and it's preferable to have onboard wifi. I agree that it's overpriced, but I think it's the best board for my needs.

  • @rhysun
    @rhysun ปีที่แล้ว +22

    You could certainly use a Pi as you would use a microcontroller dev board, especially if you need some processing grunt. But if you need some low latency real time processing, dedicated microcontrollers win every time. But the existence of the Arduino Giga is a bit puzzling to me - especially at that price!

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I agree, question is how many low latency applications would really opt for an Arduino instead of an industrial dedicated controller? I think most Arduino applications aren't low latency or can be covered by other Arduino models...

    • @DepressedMusicEnjoyer
      @DepressedMusicEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot well this is kinda industry focused controller - stm32h747
      It has pretty amazing features, I can get 14 million adc samples a second

    • @K42013
      @K42013 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot i'ts depend of case, more than often I put arduino controller because sometimes you need something that have robotic capability but doesn't cost 2K€ like a dedicated PLC. You want to communique between an old obscur ASCII transmitter with a strange communication protocal and a modern PLC ? Guess what, Arduino and slap the modbus protocol to made them talk between each other ;=).

  • @DepressedMusicEnjoyer
    @DepressedMusicEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Reason I went for giga is wanting to make a big low level project that’s fast and has nice analog capabilities.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Wouldn't the mega fit your requirements as well? Except the WiFi

    • @vapulabe
      @vapulabe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@blueprintiotmega processing speed is quite limited

  • @bassbacke
    @bassbacke ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A RASPI cannot replace a µcontroller. If you have a power cycle on a µcontroller, it will be up and running in no time. No harm done.
    If a RASPI with Linux has a power cycle it takes quite some time to boot and run if it starts at all and does not require manual input for file system checks.

  • @GRBtutorials
    @GRBtutorials ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Another interesting board is the PINE64 Ox64, which has a triple-core (1x64-bit, 2x32-bit) RISC-V MCU, with a bunch of peripherals including Wi-Fi and BLE 5.0, and can even run Linux thanks to its 64MB of RAM, all for less than $10. Unfortunately, it’s currently out of stock…

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The sipeed M1S dock is a board with the same chip on it and has interfaces for a camera and lcd. You could use that if you can’t get an Ox64.
      A big selling point of those boards is the NPU which gives it a lot more performance for vision processing, especially compared to this board. Sipeed has some data they collected about the performance in AI tasks of lots of microcontrollers on their GitHub.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Arduino Giga R1 definitely fills a role! You would be hard pressed to find any other microcontroller with as many IO pins and everything else the Giga has. You can't compare it to an ESP32 as that has MUCH fewer IO pins. You can't compare it to a Raspberry Pi as that also has a lot fewer pins, plus it's not a true microcontroller as it requires a full OS to run which makes it boot up time much longer than an instant on microcontroller like Arduinos, which matters A LOT for some projects.

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว

      You really wouldn’t, it just uses a STM32H7 chip. Before the chip shortage boards with a STM32H743 easy and cheap to get, now you can still get boards with a STM32H750 or other H7 chips and they don’t cost anywhere near what this does. Sure they lack the M4 core and wifi but they are also a lot cheaper. There is nothing really that unique about this board, you could even just go and buy a dev board from STM with one of these chips on it. Anyone that really needs this much performance will just go and make a custom board anyway and use whatever chip they want since they probably have pretty specific IO, size, power and weight requirements and don’t want to just connect dev boards together.
      You do realise you can use multiple chips working together? An ESP32 or raspberry pi combined with an arduino mega would get similar results to this, you can even use multiple arduino megas for even more IO. Or you can combine a different H7 board with an ESP32 or other wifi chip. All of those options listed work out the same price or significantly cheaper than buying one of these boards.
      There are also other boards that are better for AI or vision based tasks, like the Pine64 Ox64 and sipeed M1S dock, which use a BL808 which has two RV32 cores and one 480 MHz RV64 core as well as a NPU and are also significantly cheaper. Looking at the performance comparisons of these chips to other common microcontrollers, for AI tasks they are much better, these chips can even run Linux if you wanted to although they don’t have to.
      Then you have espressif that are going to release the ESP32P4 soon, which is a dual core, 400 MHz RISC-V core with FPU and AI extensions, it lacks wifi but is a direct competitor for the STM32H7 series and it has plenty of IO too and knowing espressif will probably be significantly cheaper. The peripherals that espressif put in their chips can also be very useful for robotics, like the MCPWM module which can control BLDC motors or brushed motors and add in things like dead time or the pulse count module which is good for encoders or RMT which is good for using communications protocols that a lot of chips don’t support, like d-shot for brushless ESCs. STM32 can do most of those things but doesn’t necessarily have dedicated hardware for it.
      You can even get some FPGA boards a lot cheaper than the arduino giga and you could combine them with a raspberry pi or ESP32 to have dedicated custom hardware running your IO or accelerating some calculations.
      If this was a more reasonable price it would maybe be a better option, but other H7 boards exist and it isn’t hard to find similar or better solutions.

    • @michaelcummings7246
      @michaelcummings7246 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Pi doesn't require an OS as you can directly start a program like with microcontroller just most people don't do it. Remember an OS is just another program that provides some higher level services.😉

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelcummings7246 yeah but programming it in that way loses most of the benefits of using a pi in the first place and makes it significantly harder to use.

  • @TheAntoine191
    @TheAntoine191 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't get the eternal pi vs arduino debate. Use cases are so different. This giga is a nice addition. Mega IOs with video support, wifi and a more modern chip. I would prefer to pay around 40$ for sure but official arduinos are expensive, mostly because you support a project that include local manufacturing, software support and such things.

  • @jimmy21584
    @jimmy21584 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I could theoretically buy one for basic prototyping, since it has every port I could ever need. But for that price I could buy an ESP32 dev board and a whole range of shields or breakout boards, plus print a custom ESP32 PCB. It’s just too expensive.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, you could even build an ESP32 cluster or similar :D

    • @conorstewart2214
      @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can also get other STM32H7 boards a lot cheaper, they are the single core variety and lack wifi but they still have a lot of pins and have the same 480 MHz M7 core. It won’t be long before some other manufacturer makes a board with one of the higher performance H7 chips.
      There are also plenty of other options, you can combine an ESP32 or raspberry pi with a mega or mega clone or even with one of the other H7 boards. If you really need the performance then why not combine a teensy 4 running at 1 GHz with a mega clone? If you need vision processing but don’t want an SBC then why not go for a bl808 based board like the Pine64 Ox64 or sipeed M1S dock, they have two RV32 cores and a 480 MHz RV64 core as well as an NPU, they will have much better vision processing performance than the arduino giga.
      Espressif are releasing the ESP32P4 soon anyway which is a dual core, 400 MHz RISC-V processor with an FPU and AI extensions and seems like it will be a direct competitor for the STM32H7 series, although they will lack any wireless communications but do support USB OTG 2.0 HS. Knowing espressif it will also probably be very cheap.
      There are plenty other similar or better options than the arduino giga, you can already get H7 boards from other companies, most notably WeAct on AliExpress, if there is a market for a board like this then other companies will just make a board that uses one of the more advanced H7 chips and sell it cheaper than arduino does.
      Practically no hobbyist needs this board, they won’t use it to its full potential other than maybe pin count unless arduino releases a easy way to do vision processing on it. Anyone who is seriously doing robotics will produce their own boards anyway and use whatever chips they want and will probably need to use an SBC anyway. They crazy thing is that now you could buy an SBC and a decent sized FPGA for less than the arduino giga and use the SBC for processing and have the FPGA handle all connected hardware, get sensor readings and do some processing.
      I know at least myself, I like to have at least 2 of a board, one for prototyping on a desk and the other to stick in the device, I also like to have spares incase something goes wrong, when I was able to get £13 STM32H743 boards then that was easy enough, but to have two or more arduino gigas is a much more significant amount of money and when you put it on a drone or robot and it can get damaged it makes it far too expensive to replace. A £13 board is easy enough to leave in a project, a €68 board however is expensive enough you will probably want to take it out and reuse it or use it in multiple projects.

  • @paulchamberlain7942
    @paulchamberlain7942 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ok, so just noticed this new arduino and am initially pleased. The question of this video is who might such a board be aimed at? Well I might be, but as i'm writing on first impressions, and others in my position will have similar thoughts, here is my interest shared.
    I have written a LED framework using FastLED in C++ that i'm very happy with. I am quite limited in effect complexity running at 50hz once i get past around 300 LEDs or so. The much faster CPU becomes decisive on effect complexity while maintaining the high frame rate. I know this because I have solved that problem with an ESP32 which is much better value given all I needed was that kind of clock speed. The ESP32 is also small enough to fit inside smaller projects.
    Would I be able to use a Raspberry Pi to run my software? Does the Raspberry Pi have an equivalent library base or one that is compatible with arduino? I honestly dont know. I favour the Arduino series simply because they are not the overly complicated full blown computers that have become difficult to program easily.
    As for cost, I would and have willingly paid the highish price for these boards because to keep the arduino thing going. Its my donation to the cause, and the cause is good. Just look at these libraries like FastLED which make controlling LEDs possible!
    Its good to have choices and its good for good things to advance and move forward. The price today is less important than all these other things :)

  • @DepressedMusicEnjoyer
    @DepressedMusicEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว

    In terms of storage there is a usb high speed host that can probably be used with external drives, and there is more onboard ram and storage, and you could replace ram up to 128MB I think

  • @pmbdk
    @pmbdk ปีที่แล้ว

    Just received a bunch of these. That DCMI is perfect

  • @TheRealStructurer
    @TheRealStructurer ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I would like to get my hands on the Giga. A bit pricey right now though. Would not be surprised if we will see some clones coming out soon…

  • @Lessenjr
    @Lessenjr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just ordered one of these. Also, I am brand new to this hobby so its entirely possible I'm unaware of a different option. My project is a wireless race simulator steering wheel. Although I still won't be using many of the features of this board, it ticks the boxes that are required from what i can tell. A ton of pins with a decent combination of digital, analog and pwm options and wireless connectivity in a single unit. Also, Arduinos play well easily with simhub software. I'm sure there are plenty of makers out there that may need similar combination and don't need or desire the extra complexity of an RP. I guess it's a case of getting more doesn't equate to having more if that makes any sense.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment!
      Would a MEGA fulfil your hardware requirements as well (except from the wifi)?
      For me it feels a bit like Arduino is skipping wifi for purpose to upsell to much more expensive models…

    • @Lessenjr
      @Lessenjr ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot Yes, Mega has the quantity amd flexibility of pinouts I need. Just no wifi.
      The Giga is certainly more board than I need, but it will streamline the build having everything in one place. Way more processing power than I'll ever require for something like this. But, sometimes you gotta pay for what ya need even if it comes with a lot of stuff you don't.
      That being said, it does beg the question whether there enough demand for a board with 50 pinouts with ~ a dozen each analog and pwm with wifi, but without the extra processing power and a boatload of other features. I mean, if there was a very basic board with limited power, but just a ton of pinouts and wifi for half the price that would be ideal, but I suspect my needs are very niche. At the end of the day it's a personal project, not a business endeavor so it's no skin off my back. However.... the only practical downside is probably going to be the size. Something thr size of maybe 3 micros would be far easier to build with. I do forsee building the framework to house all the hardware is going to be tricky due to the size of the board itself.
      So yeah, basic features with a lot of pinouts in a smaller size would be great. But im in like week 3 of learning about all this stuff so what do I know, heh.

  • @martinlaak
    @martinlaak ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi, what about power consumption?

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Valid point!
      As mentioned in the video, there are points where the giga provided more performance, like the pins. Energy consumption is for sure another one compared to the raspi. But compared to the mega it’s a different story…

  • @DesertVox
    @DesertVox ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've partially transitioned to Espressif's ESP8266 and ESP32 modules, without the board. The cost and the compact features and the Arduino-compatibility are the most alluring features.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      So you’re not using the node MCU version? How do you manage to connect your accessories? (Sensors or similar)

  • @youtubevideos415
    @youtubevideos415 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    What's all this nonsense about WIFI? WIFI is not the single most popular criteria to considering the Giga. Why would you compare a 78 pin Giga to a 4$ EPS32? Makes no sense.

    • @midi5581
      @midi5581 ปีที่แล้ว

      I did dozens of Arduino or esp32 projects and none had any need for wifi. Hardware I/O, analog inputs and analog outputs (DAC) + i2c an uart are most important in my applications so I could buy GIGA, but not at that price ;p

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks for your comment! Please consider the name of the channel, it’s about IoT. So internet is an absolute base requirement.
      Personally I think we’re living in the 21st century and building an application where I can’t capture and analyse data over the air is quite outdated.
      For makers it might be enough to check data or status on a display, for real world applications it’s a different story.
      Maybe check the video again, the giga wasn’t compared to the ESP, which would be indeed nonsense. The comparison was about the Arduino products providing wifi connectivity, at the lower end, as visualised in the video, you can find the ESP32, while the Arduino uno dies not provide wifi while fitting in a similar performance range, but multiplying the price.

    • @youtubevideos415
      @youtubevideos415 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@blueprintiot I still don't get it. The Giga is a product for people wanting a 2 core CPU and loads of pins. For people only interested in WIFI it just makes no sense. Like this comparison.

    • @tiloalo
      @tiloalo 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Because most people don't need 72 pins but a few... I stopped using arduino long ago and used esp8266 or esp32 instead for almost all projects

    • @OliverLeu_Gitarrenunterricht
      @OliverLeu_Gitarrenunterricht หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@midi5581 I have to admit, that I used WIFI in most of my projects - so... it depends.

  • @conorstewart2214
    @conorstewart2214 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Don’t forget about the pi pico w, it is also very cheap and if you want I believe the license raspberry pi has with the wifi chip maker means that you can put both on your own boards.
    Most microcontroller projects don’t need the amount of processing power that the giga has, it is just extra complexity that most hobbyists don’t need. Hobbyists won’t get anywhere near the maximum performance of this board. Anyone trying to do this professionally will just get a dev board from the company and they are available to the public too.
    I don’t get arduinos push into high performance microcontroller boards, very few people will actually buy them and arduino as a whole is seen as for beginners, anyone serious about microcontrollers will move away from it very quickly. I don’t see how arduinos high performance boards fix that, yes the boards are a lot more useful but if you are still using arduino then you still have too much abstracted away.

    • @shrikedecil
      @shrikedecil ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly. I'd expect their boards to slowly morph into a widget designed to mount *directly* to a standard solderless breadboard, and provide the necessities like power, ground, main switch. But they didn't go that way.

  • @DevEncryptionNull
    @DevEncryptionNull ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I can see the comparison of GIGA and Pi based on price. But a more direct comparison might be had between GIGA and Pi Pico. I kind of pick early on if I need the power of a Linux OS or be closer to the hardware with a microcontroller. Although with that said I think GIGA is the wrong direction for Arduino. Who's looking for more and more pins on Arduino? It seems their real competition is ESP32 and Pi Pico. Arduino should be looking to be smaller faster, more connected... not bigger, more, pins. UGH just another Mega!

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree, adding wifi to the mega would have done the job. I’m sure there are some specialised use cases for the giga, but for 80% of the applications an ESP32 does the job and provides wifi (if you need it or not). I could even go for a whole ESP32 swarm before I have spent the money for an Arduino UNO…
      To point this out, I like how Arduino made so many things accessible and I like the Arduino environment, seems just like they’re moving into the wrong direction…

    • @DepressedMusicEnjoyer
      @DepressedMusicEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot sadly both esp chips and pi Pico have very lacking analog capabilities

  • @jordig3412
    @jordig3412 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    great summary ;-)

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for your feedback!

  • @Soupie62
    @Soupie62 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You missed a point that COULD be very important. Those "Digital" pins.
    A lot of newer devices are using Arduino shield layout - but can only handle 3.3V signals. This, in turn, is creating a lot off add-on boards that use 3.3V logic. This becomes an issue when looking at boards: you need to know what they use, and whether the digital pins have voltage conversion / protection.
    The Raspberry Pi, however, has always used 5V digital logic (as far as I can tell).

    • @EraYaN
      @EraYaN ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Raspberry Pi has always been 3.3v the only boards that were 5v were the Atmel based boards from Arduino.

    • @Soupie62
      @Soupie62 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EraYaN Thanks for that. I tend to forget which is which, when interacing an ADC that runs at 2.4V. Or an FPGA with 1.8V logic, and a 1.5V core section.

  • @fatihmeral9863
    @fatihmeral9863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we are going to buind a 6 dof robot arm which can be controlled wifi or Bluetooth. I was planning buying the giga. The money is not my money and i dont mind if it is expensive. Does anyone recomend anything else? I have no other experince on board other that using arduino

  • @djpenton779
    @djpenton779 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I do find Arduino products overpriced. But of course, the use cases for MCUs and SBCs do not really overlap that much, in part because of the operating system RPs and relatives. In the end, though, I agree. There are high end MCUs with e.g. arm M7 processors that are considerably cheaper than this high end Arduino. And on the low end there are many choices that blow Arduino away on both price and performance. I haven't purchased an Arduino in years. So I don't really get the Arduino business strategy.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Well said!

    • @fench1234567
      @fench1234567 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They cater to very different hobbyists. The attraction to Arduino was more the bare metal feel of just slapping components together while knowing minimal programming and software usage/development concepts. If you want higher processors and memory such as Pi, ESP32 and SBCs, you want a whole different set of specs AND development work flows. If you want toys, you buy the toys that you know best and do what you want them to do...

  • @Marorrai
    @Marorrai ปีที่แล้ว

    Why would you assume the off-shelf price of the rPI if it's years that we don't see any with that price? At the moment i would consider the price of the PI at least double that amount (and given all people on a budget waiting i think nothing will change anytime soon).

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Just yesterday I had the chance to talk to Raspberry Pi at the embedded world fair. They produced 7 million units 2 years ago, this year 10 million are planned and they deliver every month to the distributors. They expect flawless supply until next year.
      Towards your question: The off the shelf price is the only thing you can compare, everything else is not buoy on a equal base and not valid for more than a day.

  • @gedtoon6451
    @gedtoon6451 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can the raspberry pi be used as a microcontroller? To be a true microcontroller it should programmable without an operating system. The executable code should be stored and executed from flash memory when the unit is powered up. Is there a tool chain that can do this, similar to the Arduino IDE? If the raspberry can't archive the specification described above, it should not be compared to an Arduino.

  • @saurabhkadam2670
    @saurabhkadam2670 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good unique content but increase your volume.Thanks

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!
      Please check the lastest video and let me know if volume improved:
      Simple wifi capable microcontrollers - Arduino Nano IoT vs ESP32 vs ESP8266 vs Raspberry Pi Pico W
      th-cam.com/video/psDdNgPPSoU/w-d-xo.html

  • @davepickering997
    @davepickering997 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you re-upload with more volume? I am maxed out and still volume low.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Dave,
      thanks for your feedback!
      I tried to ask a bit around, seems like a bunch of people experience a bit low audio level, but still quite good and some people can barely hear it. Unfortunately I couldn't find a valid correlation between OS / Browser / ...
      Anyway, I tried to rise to audio level a bit, to not be too loud but louder for people experiencing very low audio level.
      Please check this video and let me know if it's any better for you?
      th-cam.com/video/iA4LOjzcw4E/w-d-xo.html

  • @MartinBgelund
    @MartinBgelund ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think your viewers would benefit more from your video if you viewed the Arduino Gigia and the Raspberry Pi as complementary boards, instead of pitching them against each other as competitors. You even point out the issues with comparing a micro computer with a micro controller yourself.
    If you combine them and connect the Giga to the Pi, you have a powerful pack that can have the Giga handle eg. time critical hardware handling, and let the Pi handle more high level, complex things. And if you want to bypass the Pi's high level control, you could connect directly to the Giga with Wifi or Bluetooth, eg. with a BT remote control, a settings web page via Wifi, and things like that.
    Complements, not competitors 🙂

  • @terroshak
    @terroshak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you can't argue with price yet if none of both products is actually available... i could put 500 bucks into market atm and end up with none of both boards.. giga is not yet available while you can't get a rpi4 either... so apple oranges ?
    when you actually can get the giga for 69 eur... and then again a rpi4 for like 90 eur the comparison is more likely to be valid, isnt it ?

  • @Ziplock9000
    @Ziplock9000 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    You can't use clock speed to determine performance, you've not been able to for decades.

  • @oceanofgaming
    @oceanofgaming ปีที่แล้ว

    If you rind a Raspberry pi 4 for 60€ you are lucky. These go for over 100 to 300€ atm

  • @makitata9576
    @makitata9576 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They need to get rid of the MEGA and replace it with GIGA and drop the price of the GIGA to the MEGA. They will sell alot more and speed up adoption rate. There are so many competition out there and arduino need to compete or die.

  • @VladDElectronics
    @VladDElectronics ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Falto la raspberry Pico w

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The pico would definitely earn it‘s place! In this video I just tried to compare a bunch of microcontrollers and the Raspi 4 B to the Arduino giga, so I only picked some. Would you be interested in a general overview of the Arduino and Raspberry pi portfolio?

  • @jordig3412
    @jordig3412 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what about comparing the arduino mega and the Chinese clone ?

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, do you have any specific types in mind?

  • @mtalhakhalid1679
    @mtalhakhalid1679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Uno is expensive but node mcu esp8266 that has a wifi is cheep

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Totally agree, hope Arduino will catch up with wifi and come down with the price at the same time to be back in the game!

  • @michaelmounts1269
    @michaelmounts1269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow…i typically pay about $10 for an UNO locally😳

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      This prices are for the market in Germany, checked it on the official Arduino Germany shop. Normally not available any cheaper…ESP is a different story, there are several suppliers available, also directly from China…

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Where are you located?

    • @michaelmounts1269
      @michaelmounts1269 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot Chicago-USA

  • @karljay7473
    @karljay7473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Arduino is not a good value board and it sucks to have to pay more to add WiFI/BT to an Arduino, than it costs to get a new board that it faster (ESP32). Quite a few of the people looking to get into Arduino are MUCH better off buying a clone as they can get a full working setup with sensors for about the same price as getting the Arduino.

  • @mikeseba7817
    @mikeseba7817 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @chaaalyy
    @chaaalyy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Arduino = Copycat ?? There are these STM32 Nucleo and Discovery boards out there in the wild since years ... Way cheaper and in case of the discovery boards also with additional hardware (usb, network, sd, displays, sensors ......)

  • @markhall3323
    @markhall3323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The USP of the Arduino MEGA is the high hardware I/O count. The GIGA expands this and adds more comm’s there is no direct competition.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you provide any example where the mega isn’t sufficient and you would have the need for the giga?

    • @DepressedMusicEnjoyer
      @DepressedMusicEnjoyer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot I can, high adc sampling speed need at high resolution. Any DAC capabilities. And more.
      But well I spend lot of time programming fast adc, and the stm32h747 adc is absolutely amazing

  • @douglasfuqua7082
    @douglasfuqua7082 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sorry, the audio on my device is FULL UP, and I can't hear your presentation. (Other TH-cam videos are fine...). Shame, because this vid interested me... I ONLY watch these videos on a mobile device, time permitting. Consider this CONSTRUCTIVE criticism, not a complaint. All the best.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your response! Feel free to send me a personal message on Instagram (@blueprint_iot) and I send you a google drive link with the video file!
      instagram.com/blueprint_iot?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi,
      I tried to ask a bit around, seems like a bunch of people experience a bit low audio level, but still quite good and some people can barely hear it. Unfortunately I couldn't find a valid correlation between OS / Browser / ...
      Anyway, I tried to rise to audio level a bit, to not be too loud but louder for people experiencing very low audio level.
      Please check this video and let me know if it's any better for you?
      th-cam.com/video/iA4LOjzcw4E/w-d-xo.html

  • @JohnWilliams-gy5yc
    @JohnWilliams-gy5yc ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the Arduino pronounciation stress at the mid E vowel? aa-du-Eee-no for real?

  • @DanMcCreary
    @DanMcCreary ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A very nicely done video. Lots of good summary and comparison information.
    I am a mentor for teaching kids computational thinking. We replaced all our old Arduinos with Raspberry Pi Picos and Pico W (Wireless). At $4 USD and $6 USD they are very cost effective so each student can build their own robots.
    We also use the Cytron Maker Pi RP2040 because it has integrated motor drivers.
    All are lessons have been migrated to MicroPython - which our students love.
    We can't get Raspberry Pis due to the chip shotage.

  • @dinithaw
    @dinithaw ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ARDUINO GIGA IS NOT WORTH THAT PRICE THEY SAY...
    WAIT FOR CLONE BOARDS

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      :D for half the price probably worth it…

    • @dinithaw
      @dinithaw ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot fr!

  • @oskarelmgren
    @oskarelmgren ปีที่แล้ว

    Please standardize your audio levels.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Oskar,
      thanks for your feedback!
      I tried to ask a bit around, seems like a bunch of people experience a bit low audio level, but still quite good and some people can barely hear it. Unfortunately I couldn't find a valid correlation between OS / Browser / ...
      Anyway, I tried to rise to audio level a bit, to not be too loud but louder for people experiencing very low audio level.
      Please check this video and let me know if it's any better for you?
      th-cam.com/video/iA4LOjzcw4E/w-d-xo.html

    • @oskarelmgren
      @oskarelmgren ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot Hi! The video in the link does have a more "normal" audio level.
      Main issue with audio level (if audio quality is good, which in your case it is) is that when viewing different videos, you have to constantly be turning the volume up and down.
      "Standard" seems to be to set audio peaks to -3dB if you have normal type audio that doesn't have lots of high peaks ( in which case compression is needed).
      This makes viewing videos at the same time as hearing other stuff much better.

  • @motionsick
    @motionsick ปีที่แล้ว

    Arduino is PLC. RaspberryPi is a computer.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think PLC is it’s own category as it’s more for industrial use. But an microcontroller is definitely closer to a PLC than a micro computer!
      Check out our latest video about the difference, put PLC on my list for video as well!
      What's the difference between a microcontroller and microcomputer?
      th-cam.com/video/WMJGJMvzisw/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-zv3lj1ef7l
    @user-zv3lj1ef7l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bro, I don't think you should be commenting on electronics til you learn how to use the volume control when recording a video.

  • @dazryan3463
    @dazryan3463 ปีที่แล้ว

    Might have been an interesting video. Don't know. Could not hear it

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for reaching out! Did you have difficulties with the pronunciation of the video or no audio at all?
      Worst case you can always activate subtitles, the „CC“ button.

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Ryan,
      thanks for your feedback!
      I tried to ask a bit around, seems like a bunch of people experience a bit low audio level, but still quite good and some people can barely hear it. Unfortunately I couldn't find a valid correlation between OS / Browser / ...
      Anyway, I tried to rise to audio level a bit, to not be too loud but louder for people experiencing very low audio level.
      Please check this video and let me know if it's any better for you?
      th-cam.com/video/iA4LOjzcw4E/w-d-xo.html

    • @dazryan3463
      @dazryan3463 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blueprintiot I have just listened to the video you linked. Most video on youTube I watch with my volume level set between 30% and 45%, and this one was comfortably audible at 45%. I played the new Arduino GIGA video at 120% and was straining to hear enough to understand. I hope this feedback helps

  • @mariusmeyer903
    @mariusmeyer903 ปีที่แล้ว

    This video is absolutely useless. If you want to compare a Raspberry Pi and a MCU, you have to take in account things like use cases, power consumption, sleep modes, interrupts, latency, and more. Not just the price tags and pin numbers. And if you tell people in the comments, they could use a Mega instead of a Giga, you miss the point, that the both are utilizing completely different MCUs. You wonder, where Arduino ist going with the Giga? They keep transitioning from the kind of outdated 8bit ATmega to modern and professional ARM Cortex-M MCUs. And I think that this is the benefit of the Giga. It makes it easier for people experienced with the Arduino eco system to switch to STM32.

  • @Andy-fd5fg
    @Andy-fd5fg ปีที่แล้ว

    completely flawed comparsion

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for your constructive criticism ;)

  • @bessembousselmi677
    @bessembousselmi677 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you don't understand anything when you compare two completely different things processor , micro-controller
    Each one has its advantages and uses

    • @blueprintiot
      @blueprintiot  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your constructive feedback.
      As mentioned in the video, they are different in design, but have broad overlapping use-cases. Even though there are use-cases which defer, a lot use cases overlap, as long as the price is similar it’s up to discussion.