@Radxa - good to see you’re watching. I really like your hardware, but weak support has kept me from trying a project with your boards. I’ll keep an eye out!
@@SchoolforHackers I am sorry Radxa team is small at the moment and we are catching up, we will become an official Armbian partner to serve our users better.
Delighted but I feel I need to watch this over again with a notepad so that I can sort of get my head around all the information that you covered without charts 😉
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 *📦 Introduction and Overview* - Introduction to the comparison of three small factor SBCs: Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, Radxa Zero 3W, and Orange Pi Zero 2W. - Criteria for comparison include ease of use, documentation, performance, and a bonus category for accessories. 02:13 *📝 Specifications Overview* - Detailed specifications of Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, including its price. - Introduction to Radxa Zero 3W's specs and price, followed by the specifications and pricing of the Orange Pi Zero 2W. 06:09 *🖥️ Ease of Use* - Evaluation of ease of use for Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, highlighting the ease of setup and exceptional documentation. - Analysis of Orange Pi Zero 2W's setup process, OS availability, and documentation, noting some drawbacks. - Radxa Zero 3W's ease of use discussion, mentioning its OS options, setup simplicity, but challenging documentation. 13:18 *💻 Performance and Usability* - Performance comparison based on a CPU benchmark, with Radxa Zero 3W leading, followed by Orange Pi and Raspberry Pi. - Desktop experience comparison, highlighting the superior performance of Orange Pi Zero 2W. 15:29 *🤖 Use Cases and Accessories* - Discussion of potential use cases for small factor SBCs and the importance of camera connectors for projects involving vision. - Evaluation of accessory compatibility and support, with a focus on camera module support and ecosystem. 18:58 *🏆 Conclusion and Final Scores* - Summary of scores for each board across all categories, declaring Raspberry Pi as the overall winner for its support and ease of use. - Final thoughts on choosing the right board for specific project needs, and invitation for viewer engagement.
i was truly delighted to see how unbioaased this was and that you arent afraid to just crap on the pi where it deserves to be crapped on, namely, the performance.
i caught the accent after about the third time @makerbymistake said it, im an Aussie we also were taught that m was pronounced EM with the accent on the e. but it had me thinking for a couple of seconds. JMAO
I agree and am delighted with your grading and that it depends on one’s use case. I used a few Raspberry Pi Zero W’s to ‘smartify’ some UPS’s in my house using NUT. Absolutely minimal performance needed for that… just a usb connector + wifi running headless. I even found a remote iPhone monitoring app. Inexpensive and reliable. 😊
They want to, but the problem is that there aren't RAM modules that fit in the specific form factor that the Pi Foundation is looking for. This isn't a problem on the other boards because they put components on the bottom, but the Pi has a smooth bottom which complicates things.
I asked on the raspberry pi forum about why the current versions of the OS were not listed. I got no answer and my post was removed without explanation. I guess it's not something they want to talk about. You have download the current image from the web site and then can choose it from the Imager. The other factor to consider is the community that can support the device. Despite problems with the Raspberry Pi forums and the occasional toxicity of the Raspberry Pi Reddits, I think the Raspberry products still win here. Delighted. :D
The Radxa Zero 2 Pro has a different form factor, so it didn't fit in this comparison. It has a display conector, which is nice, but it lacks in all of the same areas that the Radxa Zero 3W lacks in
Microlinix has a great (3rd party) Armbiam image for the Zero 2 Pro that works incredibly well and Joshua Riek has Ubuntu Desktop images for Rockchip. I don't know if he has a Radxa Zero 3W image yet, but I suspect he will as there's one for the Orange Pi 3B which runs on the same processor as the 3W and is pretty decent. The downside of both boards and to be you get the best performance out of them, at least as of now, from third party images.
Delighted to watch this video. Super informative thanks. Rarely is the processing power the most important factor for me - documentation and ease of use for the win.
I was not de-lighted that you tried to use these boards as desktop systems. Doing so consumes a great deal of their limited compute power. The Orange Pi can be a desktop, ironically, having a GPU for that purpose, but the other two are meant to appeal to the (nearly) headless user. I don't use any Zero cards for displays, other than small (7" or less) touchscreen or e-paper implementations. Most are headless. Zero benchmarks should be run headless e.g., via SSH.
Delighted! That was a great review. I have selected the OrangePi for my future sUAS (drone) projects. The form factor, OS availability, and amount of RAM are my criteria.
Delighted with your comparison of the three small form factor SBC boards. I have the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W and I just got the Orange Pi Zero 2W. The Raspberry Pi has great ease of use and documentation, but average performance. The Orange Pi so far does not have hdmi output, so it is a work in progress.
I was so delighted to see a video comparing the boards i have just been researching for a quadruped! RPI has the best SBC base, but their boards are just mediocer now considering the technology availability like in the Nvidia jetson Orin. I really need a form factor like these or even the compute modules (comparison suggestion!?), but almost landed on the Radxa for the SoC alone. Considering how amateur my knowledge is on programming, it looks like RPIZ2W is the safest option.
I have tested both Raspberry Pi and Orange Pi for a project where I created a platform to take ECG with a Kivy interface on framebuffer and a 7-inch touch screen. My experience: Raspberry Pi: Very easy to install everything and get it ready for testing, but it performed very poorly even with many adjustments. Orange Pi: Very difficult to get everything lightweight. I finally used Armbian for the Orange Pi 3, which is compatible, and everything worked very well, but there's a lack of information. Delighted
I was delighted to see a comparison of these 3 boards. I just bought the RPi board but will have a better idea which board to pick if it doesn’t meet my needs.
I am truly delighted. Currently I am starting my journey with electronics, so I don't have specific plans, but I suppose thet Orange Pi Zero 2W will suits my needs.
I love different OS's for Raspberry Pi. I have the Raspberry Pi 4B 8GB in the Vilros Keyboard TouchPad Hub Running Berryboot OS's and recently did a 128 GB SD for Windows 11. I use Libreoffice in safe mode and configure Disable Hardware acceleration to get better performance. I just picked the Pi Zero 2W for a SNES MSU-1 Emulator. I picked up two Pico NES systems from Ali E too. I highly recommend the Uperfect touch screen monitor 15.6 ". It's really nice. The Rapoo K2800 keyboard as well for different things. The scroll wheel is a must.
Delighted to see a review that didn't stop at the paper specs, as others noted great hardware with poor documentation and support is a paperweight. One thing I wish more reviews focused on was the low level hardware, to me the real selling point of these sbcs is the ability to directly interface and control hardware in a project. This seems pretty glossed over usually, with a brief mention of a number of gpio (which is cool, but other peripherals and especially niche ones like i2s go unmentioned entirely).
Thank you for your review of the Zeros SBC, it have been an enlightment for decision on selection of board for tiny small projects, as for the camera related i would also consider Milk-V duo board although it would have a the lowest score for the stated criteria
I know it is complicated, but for this kind of SBC's an efficiency category would be nice, giving the fact that they most likely end up battery powered
Great comparison! It's good to see more Orange Pi zero 2W videos on youtube. By the way, one major difference that puts the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W way back is the RAM memory which is DDR2, besides Orange Pi and Radxa that have DDR4 which is a huge difference in speed that sometimes leaves the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W unusable for some applications. Great video!
Thanks for the video. Would be nice to compare power draw of those modules, as it might be a crucial point for battery powered applications. Delighted to subscribe to you channel)
I know exactly why there are those callouts are there in the orange pi manual. Each one of them represents thousands of customer service calls from new users thinking the password cannot be entered or doesn't match the one given in the manual. Customer service people got very frustrated and requested the addition of those callouts.
Delighted. I think we all use boards differently. I use as headless docker servers, in which case the Orange Pi beats the pants off of the Raspberry Pi. Keep in mind I only have power connected to both boards. The Orange Pi is always snappier, with 4X ram than the RPI. I don't have a Radxa, but I'm sure it would be better. Good comparison!
Yes, this was delightful. Viewing the spec sheets online can be a bit misleading if you don't have real world examples showing what those specs actually translate to in real life scenarios.
I appreciate that review. In fact, one could say I'm delighted with it. With Zeroish things, I would be interested in performance to power consumption.
delighted! I am curious about how these boards or other boards would perform with different screens? I am unsure what screens are better compared to others and how to figure out the compatibility.
Was completely unaware of these SBC options; just placed an order for a ton of different models to compare performance for my own use cases. I often use boards like these for webserver applications and while the RP Zero 2W has been *fine* for that, it just doesn't have the capability necessary for large file streaming, so I'm curious how these other options will compare on that front.
Hi Delighted, nice comparative test with simple but efficient criteria easy to remove if somebody doesn't care about a particular test - this kind of test is quite important, because results sometimes bring surprises up. :)
Looking at supported OSes by number of available images is very misleading. You should check out how fast manufacturer abandons support for their boards. For example I have "Orange Pi One" which had Ubuntu and Debian images available in ~2020. And zero updates after that. So while I have few perfectly working hardware boards none of these are usable due to lack of up to date software side (and I don't want to run old, vulnerable OSes). Raspberry Pi OS (32bit) supports ALL existing raspberry pi boards and is still updated/maintained.
I have used a standard usb webcam on the orange pi with the expansion board. It works just fine and I think its easier to find and mount the webcam to be honest. The orange is definitely the best to use as a desktop computer. Its snappy in every way. I have played with many sbcs but the orange one actually impressed me for how tiny it is and how speedy it is.
I was delighted and appreciate the time you invested. I have and OrangePi with 1.5Mb and the expansion board to make embedded development, easier, (Ethernet speeds things up) I had hopes of using the 24 pin pin connector in place of the 40 gpio pins for some embedded apps, but it appears to be connected to an ASIC chip which locks in the pin functions. One disappointment in the Orangepi is the lack of GPU support in all the linux distributions, maybe it works in android? The vast variety of ready to run Raspberry pi code gives that board a huge advantage for rookies who need to build on to a working code base.
I am delighted to see some viable alternatives to the semicircle _Rubus_ . The citrus flavour seems quite enticing, especially with its video capabilities. I would like to see a good audio DAC though for media use. I suppose HDMI is an option for getting it out, or potentially even a DiY SPDIF IF THE GPIOs are fast enough, but I would love the option to get the analog signal directly from the board.
@@makerbymistake I am aware of those, I am however uncertain of whether they are completely compatible with the zeros. I would like to see compatible ones for the one with 4k capabilities. I did of course overlook the fact that all of the boards do have usb, so for pure audio applications, a good usb connected DAC is of course a real option as latency wouldn’t be a problem and for video applications I guess they are capable of sending high quality audio over HDMI. I may have seen problems where there really are none. If building a portable device, then the original comment is indeed still valid though. For my current purposes, I mainly want to have an AirPlay receiver for audio that doesn’t phone home to the Fruit Company all the time, that is also capable of video reproduction in the quality I want.
Great video, well made and informative. I sort of wonder if there are SBCs designed for low power applications. Such as a camera trap that can use microcontroller with movement sensor to wake up processor to record video, take a photo and put itself into sleep. My RPi3B can run from 10000mAh powerbank for roughly one day, although I used IR camera constantly on, including LEDs so it lasted for 5 hours. I assume there are different use cases and high end SBCs do not make much sense cause some refurbished ultra small factor PCs are cheaper, much more powerful and optimized for low idle power with only passive cooling and I feel like my Rpi3B could be slightly more powerful, but it's almost fine. It just cannot for example stream FullHD video and audio together, because it can so-so encode video and accessing sd card, network and usb sound card all via USB2 is too much. Delighted.
Nothing starts perfect, first RPi came out after a lot of struggles. I'm delighted to see competition for hobbyists. And actual big improvement over the first "orangepi zero" many years ago. That one was disaster when it comes to support and documentation. It was only thanks to open source community and Armbian project it became somewhat usable. On the other hand RPi was almost always losing when it comes to pure processing power. Even now RK3588 based products basically obliterate Pi5, but RPi strength is easy of use, great support and documentation. Big weakness is availability of top products.
Thanks for the video! If you think Radxa documentation is bad, then you haven't experienced Sipeed boards documentation😄 I recently worked with a Longan PI 3H and that's where the documentation is really terrible.
Thanks for this content it definitely leaves me feeling delighted ,your findings are about right in my opinion but I will have to say cameras are kinda an extra I like you to build a remote control car project or something similar all with the different boards then see which one is controlled better , because these types of boards are best for automation ,robotics , or remote control practice it be cool to see which board does a better job at what they are intended for I think this would be fairest test honestly to decide which is best or at least seems more reliable
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Thanks for the objective review, Radxa will improve the software and documentation. Starting with the Radxa Imager tool first.
That would be great! Keep me posted on progress!
@Radxa - good to see you’re watching. I really like your hardware, but weak support has kept me from trying a project with your boards. I’ll keep an eye out!
@@SchoolforHackers I am sorry Radxa team is small at the moment and we are catching up, we will become an official Armbian partner to serve our users better.
@@radxa-computer That’s excellent to see! Thanks
The fact you commented is great. I’ve been on the fence for a radxa zero 2 or 3. I might now.
My lamp broke. Now my room is de-lighted.
(Great video, thank you!)
THANK YOU!!! I've been looking for a head-to-head comparison on these specific boards! Much appreciated! 👍
Delighted but I feel I need to watch this over again with a notepad so that I can sort of get my head around all the information that you covered without charts 😉
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 *📦 Introduction and Overview*
- Introduction to the comparison of three small factor SBCs: Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, Radxa Zero 3W, and Orange Pi Zero 2W.
- Criteria for comparison include ease of use, documentation, performance, and a bonus category for accessories.
02:13 *📝 Specifications Overview*
- Detailed specifications of Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, including its price.
- Introduction to Radxa Zero 3W's specs and price, followed by the specifications and pricing of the Orange Pi Zero 2W.
06:09 *🖥️ Ease of Use*
- Evaluation of ease of use for Raspberry Pi Zero 2W, highlighting the ease of setup and exceptional documentation.
- Analysis of Orange Pi Zero 2W's setup process, OS availability, and documentation, noting some drawbacks.
- Radxa Zero 3W's ease of use discussion, mentioning its OS options, setup simplicity, but challenging documentation.
13:18 *💻 Performance and Usability*
- Performance comparison based on a CPU benchmark, with Radxa Zero 3W leading, followed by Orange Pi and Raspberry Pi.
- Desktop experience comparison, highlighting the superior performance of Orange Pi Zero 2W.
15:29 *🤖 Use Cases and Accessories*
- Discussion of potential use cases for small factor SBCs and the importance of camera connectors for projects involving vision.
- Evaluation of accessory compatibility and support, with a focus on camera module support and ecosystem.
18:58 *🏆 Conclusion and Final Scores*
- Summary of scores for each board across all categories, declaring Raspberry Pi as the overall winner for its support and ease of use.
- Final thoughts on choosing the right board for specific project needs, and invitation for viewer engagement.
thank you chatgpt
i was truly delighted to see how unbioaased this was and that you arent afraid to just crap on the pi where it deserves to be crapped on, namely, the performance.
Delighted. I too was curious about the small small sbc's... I'm glad I chose to use my Pi zero 2 w as my home DNS only.
Good choice!
delighted that you were consistent in calling it eemc instead of emmc
Thanks for the feedback. I'm saying emmc but because of my accent it might sound like eemc to you
@@makerbymistakelol.
You alright.
i caught the accent after about the third time @makerbymistake said it, im an Aussie we also were taught that m was pronounced EM with the accent on the e. but it had me thinking for a couple of seconds. JMAO
delighted to see a comprehensive comparisons of the boards strengths and weaknesses
Cheers! Thanks for watching
Got here from the video 'Radxa X2L: Mini PC and a Pi had a BABY!' Nice haircut, very delighted when swapping back to the other video. :)
The hair goes through cycles, thanks ;)
I got a couple of these in a drawer because they're cute and i deluded myself into thi king i would use them for something
At least the drawer is providing moral support 😜
I'm delighted to find a new maker channel with great content!
Thanks!
I agree and am delighted with your grading and that it depends on one’s use case. I used a few Raspberry Pi Zero W’s to ‘smartify’ some UPS’s in my house using NUT. Absolutely minimal performance needed for that… just a usb connector + wifi running headless. I even found a remote iPhone monitoring app. Inexpensive and reliable. 😊
The Raspberry pi zero needs to be updated to 2gb ram add a couple bucks to the price and most people would agree with the price increase
They want to, but the problem is that there aren't RAM modules that fit in the specific form factor that the Pi Foundation is looking for. This isn't a problem on the other boards because they put components on the bottom, but the Pi has a smooth bottom which complicates things.
I asked on the raspberry pi forum about why the current versions of the OS were not listed. I got no answer and my post was removed without explanation. I guess it's not something they want to talk about. You have download the current image from the web site and then can choose it from the Imager.
The other factor to consider is the community that can support the device. Despite problems with the Raspberry Pi forums and the occasional toxicity of the Raspberry Pi Reddits, I think the Raspberry products still win here.
Delighted. :D
I'd be interested in the radxa zero 2 pro. It seems to be a faster spec than the 3.
The Radxa Zero 2 Pro has a different form factor, so it didn't fit in this comparison. It has a display conector, which is nice, but it lacks in all of the same areas that the Radxa Zero 3W lacks in
@@makerbymistake oh good to know! I assumed the 3w had the same form factor.
@@Aplysia The 3W has the same form factor as the Raspberry Pi Zero. The 2 Pro has a different footprint, it's wider
Microlinix has a great (3rd party) Armbiam image for the Zero 2 Pro that works incredibly well and Joshua Riek has Ubuntu Desktop images for Rockchip. I don't know if he has a Radxa Zero 3W image yet, but I suspect he will as there's one for the Orange Pi 3B which runs on the same processor as the 3W and is pretty decent. The downside of both boards and to be you get the best performance out of them, at least as of now, from third party images.
I am very Delighted by the results. That 512megs truly gimps the Zero2W. It also used to lock up when pushed a little too hard. Anyway, good video! 🙂
Yeah, the 512 RAM doesn't help
Delighted to have found your channel,and it was a fair comparison
Delighted to read this comment 😉
Delighted to see the different kinds of projects that these little SBCs can be used for. Too many projects! No time!
Make time
I hear you!
Delighted to watch this video. Super informative thanks. Rarely is the processing power the most important factor for me - documentation and ease of use for the win.
For sure!
Orange Pi and Radxa's impressive specs are not enough to merit my purchase. Simply delighted!
delighted to see more sbc content/comparisons
Thank you. Very delighted indeed about this comparison.
I was not de-lighted that you tried to use these boards as desktop systems. Doing so consumes a great deal of their limited compute power. The Orange Pi can be a desktop, ironically, having a GPU for that purpose, but the other two are meant to appeal to the (nearly) headless user. I don't use any Zero cards for displays, other than small (7" or less) touchscreen or e-paper implementations. Most are headless. Zero benchmarks should be run headless e.g., via SSH.
Hence my preemptive comment ;)
"Delighted" I liked the scientific approach to the ratings. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Was delighted to see these three compared
Delighted to find this new channel great side by side review thank you
Cheers! Thanks!
Delighted! That was a great review. I have selected the OrangePi for my future sUAS (drone) projects. The form factor, OS availability, and amount of RAM are my criteria.
Awesome. Would love to see a drone build
Delighted to see a good review of these options.
Thank You for making this video. It's so elaborate, unbiased and helpful.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
I think that's a fair assessment.
Delighted to see the comparison, the Radxa sounds best for my needs. thanks for doing my homework for me.
Delighted with your comparison of the three small form factor SBC boards. I have the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W and I just got the Orange Pi Zero 2W.
The Raspberry Pi has great ease of use and documentation, but average performance. The Orange Pi so far does not have hdmi output, so it is a work in progress.
Great video. I was delighted to see a Wisconsin license plate on your pegboard.
Thanks, glad you noticed it!
I'm always delighted to watch your videos. I always learn something new and I really enjoy them. Keep up the good work!
Cheers! Thanks for watching
Delighted to see this comparison.
Radxa boards always have great specs, but there's always something lacking elsewhere.
I am delighted to watch this comparison of zero boards. Thank you for this great video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was so delighted to see a video comparing the boards i have just been researching for a quadruped! RPI has the best SBC base, but their boards are just mediocer now considering the technology availability like in the Nvidia jetson Orin. I really need a form factor like these or even the compute modules (comparison suggestion!?), but almost landed on the Radxa for the SoC alone. Considering how amateur my knowledge is on programming, it looks like RPIZ2W is the safest option.
In my opinion, for beginners, the RPi is the best option because of the amazing documentation
I have tested both Raspberry Pi and Orange Pi for a project where I created a platform to take ECG with a Kivy interface on framebuffer and a 7-inch touch screen. My experience:
Raspberry Pi: Very easy to install everything and get it ready for testing, but it performed very poorly even with many adjustments.
Orange Pi: Very difficult to get everything lightweight. I finally used Armbian for the Orange Pi 3, which is compatible, and everything worked very well, but there's a lack of information.
Delighted
Yeah, that's pretty close toy experience also
Excellent video, I was delighted to watch it!
Cheers!
I was delighted to see a comparison of these 3 boards. I just bought the RPi board but will have a better idea which board to pick if it doesn’t meet my needs.
" delighted " that it covered quite a few aspects of each board.
This was helpful. I'm delighted that there's competition for the Raspberry Pi, but it looks like it's going to be the Pi Zero 2w for me.
Yeah, good to see competition
Delighted! Thanks for a great comparison…
Glad you enjoyed it!
I'm absolutely delighted to find another interesting TH-camr covering cool electronics! :)
More to come!
When I heard the way you are trying to get people to comment on your video, I was Delighted. Actually Smart though! It works!
Thanks for watching!
I am truly delighted. Currently I am starting my journey with electronics, so I don't have specific plans, but I suppose thet Orange Pi Zero 2W will suits my needs.
delighted to know the orange pi can be used as a desktop successfully!
the new sbc from Radxa, the NIO 12L, is also pretty good with dual 4k output, mediatek genio 1200, and 16 gigs of RAM.
I am delighted I used an RPI zero 2 iny recent project. Power consumption was my top prio, btw :)
actually the rpizero 2 w supports bookworm and works just fine
I love different OS's for Raspberry Pi. I have the Raspberry Pi 4B 8GB in the Vilros Keyboard TouchPad Hub Running Berryboot OS's and recently did a 128 GB SD for Windows 11. I use Libreoffice in safe mode and configure Disable Hardware acceleration to get better performance. I just picked the Pi Zero 2W for a SNES MSU-1 Emulator. I picked up two Pico NES systems from Ali E too. I highly recommend the Uperfect touch screen monitor 15.6 ". It's really nice. The Rapoo K2800 keyboard as well for different things. The scroll wheel is a must.
Delighted to see a review that didn't stop at the paper specs, as others noted great hardware with poor documentation and support is a paperweight.
One thing I wish more reviews focused on was the low level hardware, to me the real selling point of these sbcs is the ability to directly interface and control hardware in a project. This seems pretty glossed over usually, with a brief mention of a number of gpio (which is cool, but other peripherals and especially niche ones like i2s go unmentioned entirely).
My first impression is, I am delighted to meet you. I learned a lot from this review; Thank you.
Delighted
This was an interesting video as I just bought my first SBC, a Raspberry Pi Zero 2W.
Delight(ful)ed video.
Thank you for your review of the Zeros SBC, it have been an enlightment for decision on selection of board for tiny small projects, as for the camera related i would also consider Milk-V duo board although it would have a the lowest score for the stated criteria
I know it is complicated, but for this kind of SBC's an efficiency category would be nice, giving the fact that they most likely end up battery powered
I'll include power and temp in future videos. It's not the same as efficiency but it's an approximation for battery consumption
Great comparison! It's good to see more Orange Pi zero 2W videos on youtube. By the way, one major difference that puts the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W way back is the RAM memory which is DDR2, besides Orange Pi and Radxa that have DDR4 which is a huge difference in speed that sometimes leaves the Raspberry Pi Zero 2W unusable for some applications. Great video!
Yeah, the memory on the Pi model is setting it back, for sure
Thanks for the video. Would be nice to compare power draw of those modules, as it might be a crucial point for battery powered applications. Delighted to subscribe to you channel)
Yeah, I'll include temp and power in future comparisons
delighted to find a new channel!
Just found your channel and wow, what a fantastic job. Followed!🎉 (Delighted)
Definitely Delighted! Great review and at the right time for my project. Thanks.
Thank you, I was wondering about these boards. I was delighted.
I'm delighted, thanks for alternatives
I’m delighted. to have found this work up. Thank You
This was a pretty good video, very informative!
Glad you liked it!
I know exactly why there are those callouts are there in the orange pi manual. Each one of them represents thousands of customer service calls from new users thinking the password cannot be entered or doesn't match the one given in the manual. Customer service people got very frustrated and requested the addition of those callouts.
Hi Andy, do you work for Orange Pi? Would love to connect
Delighted to see your comparison, thank you.
Cheers! Thanks for watching
Delighted. I think we all use boards differently. I use as headless docker servers, in which case the Orange Pi beats the pants off of the Raspberry Pi. Keep in mind I only have power connected to both boards. The Orange Pi is always snappier, with 4X ram than the RPI. I don't have a Radxa, but I'm sure it would be better. Good comparison!
Yes, this was delightful. Viewing the spec sheets online can be a bit misleading if you don't have real world examples showing what those specs actually translate to in real life scenarios.
For sure!
I appreciate that review. In fact, one could say I'm delighted with it. With Zeroish things, I would be interested in performance to power consumption.
Yeah, I'll include power performance in future comparisons. But power draw really depends on processing load and attached hardware
delighted! I am curious about how these boards or other boards would perform with different screens? I am unsure what screens are better compared to others and how to figure out the compatibility.
What kind of screens? It will depend on the interface and difficult to cover all of them in a video. Raspberry Pi usually has better support overall
Was completely unaware of these SBC options; just placed an order for a ton of different models to compare performance for my own use cases.
I often use boards like these for webserver applications and while the RP Zero 2W has been *fine* for that, it just doesn't have the capability necessary for large file streaming, so I'm curious how these other options will compare on that front.
I would recommend one of the full sized SBCs for that application
delighted? yeah, sure, given that the video took a very sensible approach to this.
Thanks!
Hi Delighted, nice comparative test with simple but efficient criteria easy to remove if somebody doesn't care about a particular test - this kind of test is quite important, because results sometimes bring surprises up. :)
Delighted to discover your channel
Looking at supported OSes by number of available images is very misleading. You should check out how fast manufacturer abandons support for their boards. For example I have "Orange Pi One" which had Ubuntu and Debian images available in ~2020. And zero updates after that. So while I have few perfectly working hardware boards none of these are usable due to lack of up to date software side (and I don't want to run old, vulnerable OSes).
Raspberry Pi OS (32bit) supports ALL existing raspberry pi boards and is still updated/maintained.
That is a good point
1st gen Raspberry Pis still have some 3rd party distro support! To me support and cost are the important things for an SBC.
Subscribed - delighted.
I have used a standard usb webcam on the orange pi with the expansion board. It works just fine and I think its easier to find and mount the webcam to be honest. The orange is definitely the best to use as a desktop computer. Its snappy in every way. I have played with many sbcs but the orange one actually impressed me for how tiny it is and how speedy it is.
Hearing about the Radxa Nio 12L is quite interesting one in terms of the performance and also with the integrated mediatek chipset.
As a known liar, I was delighted to not watch to the end. 😉
I know you did ;)
I was delighted and appreciate the time you invested.
I have and OrangePi with 1.5Mb and the expansion board to make embedded development, easier, (Ethernet speeds things up) I had hopes of using the 24 pin pin connector in place of the 40 gpio pins for some embedded apps, but it appears to be connected to an ASIC chip which locks in the pin functions.
One disappointment in the Orangepi is the lack of GPU support in all the linux distributions, maybe it works in android? The vast variety of ready to run Raspberry pi code gives that board a huge advantage for rookies who need to build on to a working code base.
For sure
Delighted.... I'm a 3d model creator and I'm starting on a pip boy project, and I'm adding a raspberry pi. 😃👍🏻
Thanks, I think this was a fair comparison.
Great video delighted with the score.
Glad you enjoyed it
Delighted, but not planning on messing with any Zero any time soon.
I would have been delighted to see a power consumption comparison while running the cpu benchmark
I'll definitely do that in the future
Delighted to see a video done right.
Cheers!
I am delighted to see some viable alternatives to the semicircle _Rubus_ .
The citrus flavour seems quite enticing, especially with its video capabilities. I would like to see a good audio DAC though for media use. I suppose HDMI is an option for getting it out, or potentially even a DiY SPDIF IF THE GPIOs are fast enough, but I would love the option to get the analog signal directly from the board.
There are DACs for the Raspberry Pi, I haven't seen one compatible with the other two.
@@makerbymistake I am aware of those, I am however uncertain of whether they are completely compatible with the zeros.
I would like to see compatible ones for the one with 4k capabilities. I did of course overlook the fact that all of the boards do have usb, so for pure audio applications, a good usb connected DAC is of course a real option as latency wouldn’t be a problem and for video applications I guess they are capable of sending high quality audio over HDMI. I may have seen problems where there really are none. If building a portable device, then the original comment is indeed still valid though.
For my current purposes, I mainly want to have an AirPlay receiver for audio that doesn’t phone home to the Fruit Company all the time, that is also capable of video reproduction in the quality I want.
Great video, well made and informative. I sort of wonder if there are SBCs designed for low power applications. Such as a camera trap that can use microcontroller with movement sensor to wake up processor to record video, take a photo and put itself into sleep. My RPi3B can run from 10000mAh powerbank for roughly one day, although I used IR camera constantly on, including LEDs so it lasted for 5 hours.
I assume there are different use cases and high end SBCs do not make much sense cause some refurbished ultra small factor PCs are cheaper, much more powerful and optimized for low idle power with only passive cooling and I feel like my Rpi3B could be slightly more powerful, but it's almost fine. It just cannot for example stream FullHD video and audio together, because it can so-so encode video and accessing sd card, network and usb sound card all via USB2 is too much.
Delighted.
Yeah, these are mostly for projects where size and power consumption are a limiting factor
available os should include third party stuff, but overall good comparison very fair
Nothing starts perfect, first RPi came out after a lot of struggles. I'm delighted to see competition for hobbyists. And actual big improvement over the first "orangepi zero" many years ago. That one was disaster when it comes to support and documentation. It was only thanks to open source community and Armbian project it became somewhat usable. On the other hand RPi was almost always losing when it comes to pure processing power. Even now RK3588 based products basically obliterate Pi5, but RPi strength is easy of use, great support and documentation. Big weakness is availability of top products.
Delighted. Interesting comparison. I've subbed.
Cheers. Thanks for watching. More SBC comparisons coming
Delighted 👍🏾 I’m just here for the knowledge 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Thanks for the video!
If you think Radxa documentation is bad, then you haven't experienced Sipeed boards documentation😄
I recently worked with a Longan PI 3H and that's where the documentation is really terrible.
Yeah, documentation seems to be the Achilles heel of many SBC manufacturers
Delighted, thanks for your effort
Thanks for watching!
Delighted - subbed!
Cheers, appreciate it!
I'm going with the Radxa for sure.
It's a good option
Thanks for this content it definitely leaves me feeling delighted ,your findings are about right in my opinion but I will have to say cameras are kinda an extra I like you to build a remote control car project or something similar all with the different boards then see which one is controlled better , because these types of boards are best for automation ,robotics , or remote control practice it be cool to see which board does a better job at what they are intended for I think this would be fairest test honestly to decide which is best or at least seems more reliable