I've been mixing for 20 years (on and off) and I still learn from every video I watch, people do things differently. Some over mix and over process...he keeps it simple done with great skill..Yoad explains things very well...great video!
Nevo the hero. So glad to see that such a pro can also encounter difficulty side chaining with waves plugins. On the off chance that you read this Mr. Nevo, thank you. I've learnt so much from your webinaars.
man...a half hour into this and I'm starting to rock back and forth like a mental patient at all the "consider this" going on...I'm usually fine with musical repetition and its a very important part of driving a song home but this is just killing me for some reason
For all of you who think the vocalist is awful: 1) it must be wonderful to be so good at everything. Congratulations to you. 2) if you're actually professional recording engineers, your job is to make things sound as good as you can, not to judge. Polishing turds? Yes, that's exactly what we do. Every day. That's the job. If you don't care to work with sub-awesome performances, I suggest you turn yourself into Jack Joseph Puig or Chris Lord-Alge. Then you'll have enough rep to not need to spend time commenting here.
Touche.. If mixing is your JOB, you really can't make judgements towards the material, even if it's the worst thing you've ever heard. You make it sound as good as you possibly can and smile when they hand you that check!
Kevin M Two of the more intelligent and pragmatic posts I've seen on TH-cam in a good while. This was a really excellent video too. I learned things I haven't seen before. I love that!!
Hey, sometimes I don't have enough money to eat and stuff because this business gets hard sometimes... but I feel happy because I am doing what I Iike, and at the end, I will not regret anything. Cheers!
Yoad - a very big thank you for doing this webinar and allowing the recording to be here on YT. An awesome demonstration of vocal work with waves and how using a little can make a big difference.
Fascinating to see how a raw vocal can end up sounding quite good. The raw performance didn't make sense to me, but when it was processed and then put in context, it all came together. Nice job! BTW, if we heard most pop vocals at the raw stage, we'd be surprised. Bless the mixers…
Even though I don't use waves at this time, this was one of the best videos I've ever seen. Great teacher. I will watch this many times. I was surprised by all the criticism on the vocalist. I have had questionable vocalists who ended up with amazing songs. There are many very famous artists who aren't great singers in the classical seance but their team including producers and mixers knew how to package them. It is not my job to be a critic, it's my job to help find their nitch and direction and hopefully make them smile when they hear the results. I absolutely hate, did I say hate, despise polka but i will mix it as though I love it with every fiber of my being. I feel I can either be a mix engineer or a critic. I actually love the difficult ones, when I am successful with them, I know I really accomplished something.
The trick with putting Aphex on the send return of supertap-2 to get "earrings" was the best tip for me for a long time. I totally simulated all settings and plugins...but when I put the Apex in I started smiling. Thanks for one of the best sessions...and for contradicting the EQ before Compress... :-)
I first watched this tutorial in 2015, a friend had a video, I learnt something, it became I had somehow the best vocals come out of my studio though it was home based but at least It was like "he's good at vocals" and I was like yeeeeeeah! I should say I ve used waves plugins the right way coz this tutorial, thank to waves, thumbs up 👍😉👍!
our methods are quite the same Yoad..this is my first time seeing this video and it really made me happy to see someone with more experience use some of the same techniques. Cheers!
Great tutorial!!!!the great thing about making music is that you keep learning every day,every hour and every experiment you do!! and you can have different approach making something sounds better!! I really love it!!
Thank you for this super dope session, I like the way he talks and go throught the steps with us, instead of showing what he did.. The best masterclass I've seen so far, thank you!
Excellent video on approaching vocals. I've visited this quite a few times before and every time I catch something new. The delay sidechain compression trick is really helpful.
thank you so much for the great tutorial. I finally purchased Waves bundle and very happy with the result I'm getting. They became my favorite Plugins, I wish I bought them earlier.
I am always looking to expand my skill set and this certainly provided me with some excellent tips on how to use my plugins in a more creative as well as a practical manner. Thank you so much Mr. Nevo for sharing your expertise with us.
Beware! If you buy Waves Plugins is does NOT mean that you will benefit from updates forever. I recently got this mail: Dear Valued Waves User, We're writing to let you know that your Waves Update Plan for the following product(s) will expire in 14 days: Product Serial Num WUP Expiration Date Gold xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 7/6/2015 Please keep in mind Waves Update Plan coverage is not necessary to continue using the version of the licenses you have. You only need to renew when you need the benefits gained by Waves Update Plan coverage. See below for a complete list of advantages for staying current. To extend your Waves Update Plan coverage online, click here. Or if you prefer, you can purchase your Waves Update Plan coverage by visiting your local Waves dealer. You Have Complete Compatibility You get the latest Waves versions, which means compatibility with all major audio hosts and operating systems. See Tech Specs Additional Plugins With Waves Update Plan, you receive new plugins as they're added to your bundle. Never had any manufacturer doing this trick. If you read the terms and conditions it does not clearly state about this condition. Basically I really think this is a rip off
Hello maat020 please note that you do not have to purchase WUP, especially if you do not plan on updating your system. With that in mind there are many great benefits to having WUP including VIP tech support, priority bug fixes, updates, & added plugins for various Bundles. You receive a year of WUP with every new purchase. When you renew your Waves Update Plan, you get the amount you spend back in the form of a voucher that is good up to 50% off of bundles or bundle upgrades, or 25% off of single plugins purchases. If you have any additional questions please contact our Sales Office at 865-909-9200 or you can message them directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales
+Waves Audio I'm constantly getting an error message at random saying that I don't have the license for my CLA-2A, which I bought because of this video. Why is that? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
+maat020 i also got that email and now, because i havent renewed, when i open up ableton it tells me that i don't even have the waves plugins that i was originally using, and theyve been removed from my plugin library folder. not sure how we can fix that.
+maat020 wow thanks for sharing this guys. Waves audio reply didn't take care of this problem. The benefits paying extra money to have WUP is tech support, bug fixes, and updates? So that's not included in I initially purchase the bundle?
This is how it works: You buy waves plugins with an arm and a leg thrown in and then they slowly take them back one by one until you do not own waves plugins any more and you have to buy them again. Waves Logic: Well your money has to go back into the economy some how!! We'll do it for you.
Thanks so much. Really learned a lot. Edited my own vocals point by point along with your instructions and I'm really happy with the results. I noticed you duplicated the vocal track to add saturation. I've been placing saturation prior to compression on the idea that it would react more dynamically to the uncompressed signal. Would love hear opinions on that.
Ur right about that. When I took a digital composition class, I was critiqued to ease off my compression and not surpass 3db of compression on certain aspects and tracks. I still use a stand alone compressor along with a built in compressor within a channel strip on my own compositions outside of school. I'll even send a compressed signal to a bus and compress that too Lol!
Outstanding. Mr. Nevo explains how he's thinking and his subjective impressions, and explains each step precisely. Other lecturers rush through, obviously not considering how listeners will be able to follow the process of reasoning-listening-adjusting. Thanks so much!
awesome video, yoad is the real mvp. can't really complain since this is free, but for the second half of the video, yoad forgot to unzoom from when he zoomed in on the Rchannel
I'm heartened to see even a top level pro who knows his tools well fumble a little with settings. I often get lost on where I am with settings, and the butterfly effect of settings changes!
let me just say that im blown away and this isnt even my genre of music...but that shouldnt even matter anyway....BUT...wow....i realize i need much more practice before i consider myself a true PROFESSIONAL....also let me say that i didnt really catch on to everything yet...but i will watch this over and over until i do!!....also...i NEED pro tools bad....big time....i use Audition but i really want to tweak vocals like THIS!!
I used to think the same thing...a lot of the plugins he uses is more focused on a vibe. And though a lot of these things sound subtle, they make a huge difference in the overall sound of the mix. If you don't hear these things, you either need better headphones/earphones or better monitors because if you are going to mix tracks, you need to be able to hear all of that.
Very helpful video! I just don't get why do you use the vocal rider? The previous step - heavy compression was to reduce the dynamic range, and now you are creating dynamic range with the rider?
It depends on the character of the plugin.. my favorite is the Puigtec EQs on bass, guitar, etc.. boosting sounds awesome. Full of life & sparkle. Doing the same with the Rennaisance EQ may not sound as good. Some EQs sound best with a subtractive, while others a more additive approach. And entirely different depending on the source track...vocals, drums, or bass etc. But as a whole these Waves plugins are amazing & fully on par with analog hardware.. just a different flavor.
I've been mixing for 20 years (on and off) and I still learn from every video I watch, people do things differently. Some over mix and over process...he keeps it simple done with great skill..Yoad explains things very well...great video!
elcajon619 guess you weren't that interested in music mixing anyway then? ...
he said jk....
They have one thing in common though. They use their ears extremely well.
This is one of those secrets that ive been contemplating for 20+ years. My mixes should be 1000% now. Thanks waves.
DRY: 2:06
FINISHED: 59:00
Nearly the same. Hahaha
@@MB-ry6ez No Sir. Huge Difference
Nevo the hero. So glad to see that such a pro can also encounter difficulty side chaining with waves plugins. On the off chance that you read this Mr. Nevo, thank you. I've learnt so much from your webinaars.
man...a half hour into this and I'm starting to rock back and forth like a mental patient at all the "consider this" going on...I'm usually fine with musical repetition and its a very important part of driving a song home but this is just killing me for some reason
15:55 "Watching all the hope go out the door".
Door squeaks open.
I guess that was the hope leaving.
And whatever hope was left after that left at 51:10. Or maybe that was hope hitting the floor?
For all of you who think the vocalist is awful: 1) it must be wonderful to be so good at everything. Congratulations to you. 2) if you're actually professional recording engineers, your job is to make things sound as good as you can, not to judge. Polishing turds? Yes, that's exactly what we do. Every day. That's the job. If you don't care to work with sub-awesome performances, I suggest you turn yourself into Jack Joseph Puig or Chris Lord-Alge. Then you'll have enough rep to not need to spend time commenting here.
Touche.. If mixing is your JOB, you really can't make judgements towards the material, even if it's the worst thing you've ever heard. You make it sound as good as you possibly can and smile when they hand you that check!
Kevin M Two of the more intelligent and pragmatic posts I've seen on TH-cam in a good while. This was a really excellent video too. I learned things I haven't seen before. I love that!!
in response to your #1.... do we NEED to be good at singing to say we dont like someone else's singing?
Adam Lewis
To use one of my own metaphors....A doctor doesn't need to have had a broken bone, to cure one! ;)
Well said! :)
I just love learning about mixing. I want to go to school for it, but parents don't believe in it.
Don't give up on your dreams, or your dreams will give up on you.
Just keep practicing! You don't need to go to school, everything you need to know is here on the interweb ;)
TVTsteven Thanks
Hey, sometimes I don't have enough money to eat and stuff because this business gets hard sometimes... but I feel happy because I am doing what I Iike, and at the end, I will not regret anything. Cheers!
If you love it and feel it, just do it... don't listen to any "dream killers" out there...
Why is he mixing stewie griffin's vocals?
He said it was with just the cla but the love he has for music won't let him stop. Good job
Yoad - a very big thank you for doing this webinar and allowing the recording to be here on YT. An awesome demonstration of vocal work with waves and how using a little can make a big difference.
Fascinating to see how a raw vocal can end up sounding quite good. The raw performance didn't make sense to me, but when it was processed and then put in context, it all came together. Nice job! BTW, if we heard most pop vocals at the raw stage, we'd be surprised. Bless the mixers…
Thank you very much Yoad for your time and willingness to share your knowledge to make those of us that are newer to producing that much better.
Even though I don't use waves at this time, this was one of the best videos I've ever seen. Great teacher. I will watch this many times. I was surprised by all the criticism on the vocalist. I have had questionable vocalists who ended up with amazing songs. There are many very famous artists who aren't great singers in the classical seance but their team including producers and mixers knew how to package them. It is not my job to be a critic, it's my job to help find their nitch and direction and hopefully make them smile when they hear the results. I absolutely hate, did I say hate, despise polka but i will mix it as though I love it with every fiber of my being. I feel I can either be a mix engineer or a critic. I actually love the difficult ones, when I am successful with them, I know I really accomplished something.
Either everybody already knows what they are doing or only 33,000 people wanna get better. I love this video. NEED MORE!!
Huge thanks to anyone who gives mixing tips for free.
The trick with putting Aphex on the send return of supertap-2 to get "earrings" was the best tip for me for a long time. I totally simulated all settings and plugins...but when I put the Apex in I started smiling. Thanks for one of the best sessions...and for contradicting the EQ before Compress... :-)
I first watched this tutorial in 2015, a friend had a video, I learnt something, it became I had somehow the best vocals come out of my studio though it was home based but at least It was like "he's good at vocals" and I was like yeeeeeeah! I should say I ve used waves plugins the right way coz this tutorial, thank to waves, thumbs up 👍😉👍!
You know whats even cooler, the way you say cool Yoad. Its cool.
I loved the video! You can clearly see a hell of a professional working here. It is good to see a person who really knows what he is talking about.
Always learning ALOT with Yoad. My favorite.
just following some of these steps has made a huge difference in my mix
our methods are quite the same Yoad..this is my first time seeing this video and it really made me happy to see someone with more experience use some of the same techniques. Cheers!
Great tutorial!!!!the great thing about making music is that you keep learning every day,every hour and every experiment you do!! and you can have different approach making something sounds better!!
I really love it!!
Thank you for this super dope session, I like the way he talks and go throught the steps with us, instead of showing what he did.. The best masterclass I've seen so far, thank you!
such a humble and smart guy! not overly confident and salesmanlike like some others... THX Nevo!
best vocal mixing tutorial that has ever been uploaded full thumbs up
Wow! Using the GTR overdrive on that vocal is something I never considered but wish I did. Genius, yet so obvious Thanks
Excellent video on approaching vocals. I've visited this quite a few times before and every time I catch something new. The delay sidechain compression trick is really helpful.
You have no idea how much I have learned with you. Thank you. Amazing.
thank you so much for the great tutorial. I finally purchased Waves bundle and very happy with the result I'm getting. They became my favorite Plugins, I wish I bought them earlier.
I am always looking to expand my skill set and this certainly provided me with some excellent tips on how to use my plugins in a more creative as well as a practical manner. Thank you so much Mr. Nevo for sharing your expertise with us.
Brilliant webinar! I know I'm 5.5 years behind, but a sincere and big thank you for this!
Great job... I've been mixing for years and I always find use in watching these and stay current
Fantastic tutorial. The compression first before EQ was an interesting argument I had never thought about.
Take a little breath guys! Love this seminar! GREAT VIDEO!
Best and complete tutorial on vocal editing mixing, I'm surprised why the views are so low.
Beware! If you buy Waves Plugins is does NOT mean that you will benefit from updates forever. I recently got this mail:
Dear Valued Waves User,
We're writing to let you know that your Waves Update Plan for the following product(s) will expire in 14 days:
Product Serial Num WUP Expiration Date
Gold xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 7/6/2015
Please keep in mind Waves Update Plan coverage is not necessary to continue using the version of the licenses you have.
You only need to renew when you need the benefits gained by Waves Update Plan coverage. See below for a complete list of advantages for staying current.
To extend your Waves Update Plan coverage online, click here.
Or if you prefer, you can purchase your Waves Update Plan coverage by visiting your local Waves dealer.
You Have Complete Compatibility
You get the latest Waves versions, which means compatibility with all major
audio hosts and operating systems. See Tech Specs
Additional Plugins
With Waves Update Plan, you receive new plugins as they're added to your bundle.
Never had any manufacturer doing this trick. If you read the terms and conditions it does not clearly state about this condition.
Basically I really think this is a rip off
Hello maat020 please note that you do not have to purchase WUP, especially if you do not plan on updating your system. With that in mind there are many great benefits to having WUP including VIP tech support, priority bug fixes, updates, & added plugins for various Bundles.
You receive a year of WUP with every new purchase. When you renew your Waves Update Plan, you get the amount you spend back in the form of a voucher that is good up to 50% off of bundles or bundle upgrades, or 25% off of single plugins purchases.
If you have any additional questions please contact our Sales Office at 865-909-9200 or you can message them directly here: www.waves.com/contact-sales
+Waves Audio I'm constantly getting an error message at random saying that I don't have the license for my CLA-2A, which I bought because of this video. Why is that? Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.
+maat020 i also got that email and now, because i havent renewed, when i open up ableton it tells me that i don't even have the waves plugins that i was originally using, and theyve been removed from my plugin library folder. not sure how we can fix that.
+maat020 wow thanks for sharing this guys. Waves audio reply didn't take care of this problem. The benefits paying extra money to have WUP is tech support, bug fixes, and updates? So that's not included in I initially purchase the bundle?
This is how it works: You buy waves plugins with an arm and a leg thrown in and then they slowly take them back one by one until you do not own waves plugins any more and you have to buy them again. Waves Logic: Well your money has to go back into the economy some how!! We'll do it for you.
Awesome, I love the singer and the song.
Very good webinar. There aren't many like this out there.
WOW a lot of you on here must be in the early stages of mixing lol why so frustrated? this all makes sense! Thanks Yoad
One of the best tutorials i've seen! thanks for share your audio approach process and tips!
Thanks so much. Really learned a lot. Edited my own vocals point by point along with your instructions and I'm really happy with the results. I noticed you duplicated the vocal track to add saturation. I've been placing saturation prior to compression on the idea that it would react more dynamically to the uncompressed signal. Would love hear opinions on that.
Ur right about that. When I took a digital composition class, I was critiqued to ease off my compression and not surpass 3db of compression on certain aspects and tracks. I still use a stand alone compressor along with a built in compressor within a channel strip on my own compositions outside of school. I'll even send a compressed signal to a bus and compress that too Lol!
Outstanding. Mr. Nevo explains how he's thinking and his subjective impressions, and explains each step precisely. Other lecturers rush through, obviously not considering how listeners will be able to follow the process of reasoning-listening-adjusting. Thanks so much!
Thanks alot Yoad Nevo what i learn in just a few minutes really make my day!!!!!
blessed love.
I learned as much from watching his face as I did from his plug moves. Thank you Yoad!
this video keeps me on track.....his skills are impressive
I love the step by step walk through.
Thank you so much for this lesson, it is more than I've learnt in 2 years of college.
very informative. This video answered many questions that I had. I appreciate Waves for producing it.
well, someone else might like to see that guy, I empathize with his passion and yes, I think is great to watch him.
wow it sounds amazingly better at the end... a true master.
The LA-2A plugin is fantastic!! Warm, meaty..very analog sounding
Good info ...def will be using some of these techniques...especially like the doubler to thicken up the vocals
Really thanks for that tutorial. I learned a lot and I'm going to test it in my DAW;)
Greetings from Poland
It was so good. Explained in a very well manner. Thanks for it dear Sir.
Consider this !
not even autotune could save him
Imagine the dude that had to De-ess Freddy Mercury's vocals lol
HAHAHHAH
awesome video, yoad is the real mvp. can't really complain since this is free, but for the second half of the video, yoad forgot to unzoom from when he zoomed in on the Rchannel
Great webinar on vocal mixing, thanks for posting.
Thank you Waves, and Yoad Nevo,
fuck dat. i want the song.. after watchin this, the fuckin song keep playin in my head lol..
I feel you bro
Hi, the song is called "Consider This" by Yoni Leviatan.
www.reverbnation.com/artist/song_show_lyrics/13049453
the link:www.broadjam.com/artists/songs.php?artistID=37659&mediaID=349021
+Nashawn Jones lmao me too
Great video inspired me a lot. 15-20 degree screen view is really exhausting. I think better left or bottom right the webcam
thanks for this webinar! though the song is stuck in my head now...
I love this. So knowledge hungry. Thanks for feeding the fire
Consider this... ))
lol
I'm heartened to see even a top level pro who knows his tools well fumble a little with settings. I often get lost on where I am with settings, and the butterfly effect of settings changes!
let me just say that im blown away and this isnt even my genre of music...but that shouldnt even matter anyway....BUT...wow....i realize i need much more practice before i consider myself a true PROFESSIONAL....also let me say that i didnt really catch on to everything yet...but i will watch this over and over until i do!!....also...i NEED pro tools bad....big time....i use Audition but i really want to tweak vocals like THIS!!
I used to think the same thing...a lot of the plugins he uses is more focused on a vibe. And though a lot of these things sound subtle, they make a huge difference in the overall sound of the mix. If you don't hear these things, you either need better headphones/earphones or better monitors because if you are going to mix tracks, you need to be able to hear all of that.
Thank you Yoad and Waves!!!
Explains things very well, Super Video!
Thank you for this wonderful master class.
Love the tutorial, hate the track
3D perspective of the screen makes it mostly hard to read. But good lesson, thanks!
Thank you Yoad. I learned a lot from you here.
Thanks , very helpful , you are sure and rightly convinced in what you're doing !
Thank you mr. Yoad for this amazing Webinar!
Truly Inspirational can´t wait to try this back home in my studio when i get off work :)
very nice tutorial keep up the good work man
really good mixing. i am learning a lot with this
Would be awesome to get a new version uploaded with the screen facing us!
great tutorial!! very helpful in approaching effects for lead vocals.
Amazing tutorial, very interesting and useful. Clear explanation and real examples, I will try my own following this guide :)
WITHOUT: 2:05
WITH: 59:00
Very helpful video! I just don't get why do you use the vocal rider? The previous step - heavy compression was to reduce the dynamic range, and now you are creating dynamic range with the rider?
Should be called Yoda :-) thanks for the webinar \0/
Absolutely great tutorial!!!!!!
best video so far
Great tutorial!!! very helpful in approaching the mixing world! Thank you!
yeah that if you used it in final mix output
compression is the best for vocals and drums and sometimes final mix for house music dub
Amazing Yoad
It depends on the character of the plugin.. my favorite is the Puigtec EQs on bass, guitar, etc.. boosting sounds awesome. Full of life & sparkle. Doing the same with the Rennaisance EQ may not sound as good. Some EQs sound best with a subtractive, while others a more additive approach. And entirely different depending on the source track...vocals, drums, or bass etc. But as a whole these Waves plugins are amazing & fully on par with analog hardware.. just a different flavor.
Wow.. This is such an important vid for producers, thanks so much for this! :)
Thanx
Great info n awesome tips
Now let me put this knowledge to work aye
Great insight. Really enjoyed this.
Pure genius!
Thank u so much for sharing ur knowledge
your voice is enough for a tutorial...... i want to see the pro tools screen bigger
I LEARN LIKE A SHAMP WITH U FOR A LIL BIT. THANX A LOT
This is Awesome. thank you!
min 54:05 a great kick drum sample when Yoad hits the desk.
fantastic video