I have used the light gray King Deluxe 300 splasher for years. Looks and behaves very similar to the King Neo 800 sharpening vids. I believe the King primer grey splashers are all the same formula, but different grits; King Deluxe 300, King Deluxe 400, King Neo 800. Conclusion is based on brand, color, looks, splash-n-go, speed, hardness, user reviews, data from MTC Kitchen and official King MATSUNAGA.... The model names, Deluxe or Neo, are irrelevant, just marketing. Consensus says that King Deluxe 300 leaves a 500-600 grit finish. So not sure if the grits are even that different.
It's interesting you say this, because the 300 deluxe is an extremely hard stone, whereas the 800 neo is described as being much softer. I am sure they use similar abrasives however
Nicely done video. I agree that burr removal can be tricky and I'm learning to slow down and really check that it's completely gone. Some of your traditional sharpness tests won't reveal that you've got some left. And not to pile on but I'm most interested in that stone! I had no idea that King had this line, and no idea that there was such a thing as green silicon carbide that was harder than the black. Seems like a real bargain compared to the other high-performance stones for the harder steels. I don't have anything crazy hard but I certainly have a few Japanese kitchen knives in the low to mid-60s Rockwells and a number of folders in D2 so this is very interesting news. BTW hear ya on the minimalist approach. I started out long ago with a carbon-steel utility 6-incher from the supermarket and the bottom of a coffee mug and did that for many, many years. I've upped my game since then but still don't see why you have to make a big production out of sharpening a knife. : )
I just did an old goodwill find case Xx last night on a shapton 320 and deburred with a plain piece of leather belt also from goodwill. It would pop hairs And let me tell you it eats cardboard like crazy.
it's not really a line. it's just 1 stone. but it comes in different formats like on the stand or standalone in the case and whatnot. There are 4 versions of it. ST-1 to ST-4. The only difference is the base vs no base, and the size and thickness. They make a giant one that's ST-3 which is more than twice the thickness and larger surface size also.
I`ve never even heard of the King Neo series, doesn`t seem to be available in germany :/ I have the King KDS 1K and don`t like it a whole lot, mostly cause it wears so quickly. Oil Stones and Diamonds is where it`s at for me.
You might be able to order and have it internationally shipped. It’s much harder wearing than other king stones. And so convenient being splash and go. Nothing wrong with those stones. I’ll be doing videos on those soon!!
@@TimJohnson-x1oHow long have u tested the King Deluxe 300 AND Neo 800? Where does King say green SiC for the Neo 800? Saying the KD300 is just "for low alloy steel like 1095" tells me u have no experience with it.
I have used the light gray King Deluxe 300 splasher for years. Looks and behaves very similar to the King Neo 800 sharpening vids. I believe the King primer grey splashers are all the same formula, but different grits; King Deluxe 300, King Deluxe 400, King Neo 800. Conclusion is based on brand, color, looks, splash-n-go, speed, hardness, user reviews, data from MTC Kitchen and official King MATSUNAGA.... The model names, Deluxe or Neo, are irrelevant, just marketing. Consensus says that King Deluxe 300 leaves a 500-600 grit finish. So not sure if the grits are even that different.
It's interesting you say this, because the 300 deluxe is an extremely hard stone, whereas the 800 neo is described as being much softer. I am sure they use similar abrasives however
Nicely done video. I agree that burr removal can be tricky and I'm learning to slow down and really check that it's completely gone. Some of your traditional sharpness tests won't reveal that you've got some left. And not to pile on but I'm most interested in that stone! I had no idea that King had this line, and no idea that there was such a thing as green silicon carbide that was harder than the black. Seems like a real bargain compared to the other high-performance stones for the harder steels. I don't have anything crazy hard but I certainly have a few Japanese kitchen knives in the low to mid-60s Rockwells and a number of folders in D2 so this is very interesting news. BTW hear ya on the minimalist approach. I started out long ago with a carbon-steel utility 6-incher from the supermarket and the bottom of a coffee mug and did that for many, many years. I've upped my game since then but still don't see why you have to make a big production out of sharpening a knife. : )
Where did he mention green silicon carbide in the vid?
How does this stone hold up to chosera 800 and shapton pro 1k/ glass 500 in hardness and feedback? Does it load up?
I just did an old goodwill find case Xx last night on a shapton 320 and deburred with a plain piece of leather belt also from goodwill. It would pop hairs And let me tell you it eats cardboard like crazy.
03:02 Where did he mention green silicon carbide in the vid? Is the King Neo line made with green silicon carbide? Which binder?
it's not really a line. it's just 1 stone. but it comes in different formats like on the stand or standalone in the case and whatnot. There are 4 versions of it. ST-1 to ST-4. The only difference is the base vs no base, and the size and thickness. They make a giant one that's ST-3 which is more than twice the thickness and larger surface size also.
I`ve never even heard of the King Neo series, doesn`t seem to be available in germany :/ I have the King KDS 1K and don`t like it a whole lot, mostly cause it wears so quickly. Oil Stones and Diamonds is where it`s at for me.
You might be able to order and have it internationally shipped. It’s much harder wearing than other king stones. And so convenient being splash and go. Nothing wrong with those stones. I’ll be doing videos on those soon!!
Similar King Deluxe 300 is 28 on Amazon. Do u like the King Deluxe 1200 better than 1K?
@@chadrudolph1596 nothing similar about it at all. that 300 is for low alloy steel like 1095. this 800 is green SIC for high alloy steel like 10v.
@@TimJohnson-x1oHow long have u tested the King Deluxe 300 AND Neo 800? Where does King say green SiC for the Neo 800? Saying the KD300 is just "for low alloy steel like 1095" tells me u have no experience with it.