the most STRESSFUL but SUCCESSFUL fabrication project I've done
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ต.ค. 2024
- This oil pan project was stressing me out because if we failed, than an oil pan would be ruined but also our 1,700hp 535 cubic inch big block wouldn't have the oil capacity it needed, so the pressure was on.
my first attempt at upgrading the oil pan
• my 1,700hp engine buil...
Hey Lawrence, we run a huge oil filter on those PSI 8.8 ltr irrigation power units. They add more than a quart of oil on their own.
The idea is to add more oil to the pan so you don’t run the pan dry during a run. Adding a bigger filter and oil cooler help increase the capacity of the system but you want more reserves in the pan so you don’t risk running it dry.
Don't think it would fit with the drive shaft borther
@@nicknickolette2777remote mount is always an option
cant fit a longer filter on the 4x4, the front driveshaft is in the way
Looks great, LT! Nobody will see your welds except ALL of us!
For everyone talking about adding oil filter and cooler volume, those add pressurized oil volume after the pump. On a wet sump system, only modifying the pan itself can help prevent air from getting into the pump. When air gets in the pump, pressure in the oil system drops because air is compressible.
I like your neapolitan hot rod truck.
If someone gets close enough to see how well you did your fabrication and says it is not good enough they don’t need to be there!
hey LT just something to try that ive found out works great for me on cast aluminum is to just run the tig around where your gonna weld with only the cast part just use the welder no filler to just clean the area to be welded then put the new part on and run over the bead you just ran on the cast and it also preheats the part to get better penetration to run less amps on my machine
Bro, it’s the gloves you’re using for tig welding. Look like mig gloves, you need a dedicated “TIG” glove and will make it much easier to do the thumb feeding !
Karen
@@Swick73 explain to the class how he's being a "Karen" for pointing out the issue LT expressed within the video about not being able to feed the filler rod?
Every thing will be okay. 👌 😂
@@brandonparker5941probably never touched a welder or anything under the hood of a car or anything else🤣
@@teamgmotorsports they look like parts store tig gloves to me.
Get a pan for a jet boat. Darn hard to find for the 7, but they can be had. Last time I looked they were around $1,000.00.
Nice work LT!!
I can’t get over how clean the floor of your truck is on the underside. It’s amazing
Seems an accumulator would be a better option than modding the pan
Verify you can still service the starter with the kick out you might need to switch to a straight mount starter
The tool you used is called a Sliding T Bevel, and it is usually used in woodworking to transfer angles from one piece to another and to help dissect angles when making miter cuts.
LT.... I did the same type of thing on an LS pan. Instead of cutting out the side for the box, I left the box and drilled holes. I figgered it kept the strength of the pan, reduced the chance for warpage, and offered some additional baffling.
That’s a good idea, I kinda wish I would’ve thought of that
Dang LT you're too hard on yourself those welds look very nice
If you do a continuous with aluminum ,aluminum will become brittle and crystallize You have to cool off in between welds ,and you can’t weld a long bead
Seriously oil cooler man! They can hold more then a quart, and one can use multiple.
He doesn’t need more oil in the system he just wants more oil in the pan
I think the slosh plate he was considering would handle that. Personally I'd have gone with 3/3.5 in slosh plate with a pair of massive coolers running into the turbos with a siamese setup. This keeps the level even at the pickup tube, provides cool oil for the turbos, and adds several quarts of oil to the system. This is a drag build after all lolol.
Awesome work LT! Love your positive attitude, and get it done demeanor! I recently bought a Forney Easy Weld MP 140 welder, to get working on refreshing my welding as I haven't done it for many years. I hope it does ok with some small projects.
dont sweat the looks of the welds,,,quality first,,,,have seen so so welds on High dollar, fast race cars,,,,,,,,,all good man
DUDE, those welds ROCK!!! Lawrence stacking dimes😋
Use a file on your glove thumb and rough it up some and see if it works, if you use anything on it you might contaminate the weld.
It would seem that your turbo oil drain is now below the oil level, that may cause you issuse, but serioulsy nice work as always. I remeber watching you in the powerblock tv days, much respect bud.
The oil drains for the turbos are up front right near the pan rail. The one port on the side of the new sump is for a temp sending unit
@@LawrenceTolman my bad lt 😁 nice work as always and thanks for the reply 😁
I push the filler with my index and middle fingers, pinch it with the thumb bend both fingers back and push the rod forward. You can practice while watching TV
Way to face your fears LT
I wanted to comment on the last episode but forgot to, why not run a remote mount oil filter with a 2qt oil filter as well? Been considering that for my 2nd gen Camaro when I go to install an oil cooler; I don't want to sacrifice ground clearance and/or starter accessibility with a larger sump.
That came out awesome! Killing it man!
Thanks!
Maybe it’s a little late, but why wouldn’t you just do a remote oil cooler setup and dramatically increase oil capacity?
Damn, teacher says you failed the test! NO LEAKS! or thats what i heard. Nice job. Teacher didnt know it was cast to plate. Ive been told too many times "nope, not gonna do it, not worth my time to try". And my skill level is WAY too low for cast to plate with no leaks. I'll stick with monkey mig (with gas, screw that Flux garbage).
Did you preheat the pan at all before welding? It might help to cook the pan to get out the impurities off the surface before you start
Great work LT! Only those who have experience welding cast aluminum know the pain that comes with it 😂. In my experience as long as I'm welding cast aluminum parts that are made after the year 2000 the aluminum quality seems to be MUCH better with fewer impurities. Older than that and it's usually a mess. Great job again 👏
Hey LT, instead of running a small oil filter, get an oil relocation kit and use a huge oil filter like @joesilvasr9733 said.
Hi LT, I don't care who you are that looks outstanding! I get stressed out about all precision projects I don't care if I've done them a 100 times, you just want to look good and work well. I guess it's because we care and try to do our best! So far everything I've watched you do is top notch work! Good Man!👍👍
You really should weld both sides of the joint (even on the bungs), especially since it will be submerged in oil, the “wetted” parts will be drawing in oil, dirt, water, whatever, into the separation and eat at the weld from the backside since it’s not sealed off. If it was a beveled full penetration joint maybe not so bad to weld one side, but there’s no way with that small machine. Granted it’s aluminum and corrosion is less of a concern but since it’s cast like you said the pores will be drawing in impurities during heat cycles etc. It’s just good practice to not leave any wetted areas.
I would relocate the low oil sensor under the baffle to help warn you in case there is any oil slosh causing starvation
Nice work. On that last leak...JB Weld and be done with it or go the extra mile and break out the welder again?? ...I can feel the OCD from TX!
I know you have to move on to new builds but the ugly teuck is the reason I subscribe
Leak check it with gas. It will find every pin hole water won’t.
Check out the Blue Demon Dab Pen for a feeder option. I'm not a welder but looks like an option
Why don't you plumb in an external reservoir?
Why weld with the oil pan on the engine? Why not take the pan to the welding table? Maybe I missed the explanation
To prevent any potential warping or deformation from the heat.
now make a mold copy of the oil pan you finished , send it off to a casting company and then sell them as aftermarket pans
What blade are you using on the saw?
Dude!!! Great video!!! Bravo!!! Great job!!! You're a bad a*"'!!! Welder!!! Aluminum welding is a talent earn!!!✌️
Glad I’m not the only one using a miter saw with a metal blade.
Hey LT, great job on the fab/welds!!! Well Done!! Today You have finally motivated me to tackle a wiring project on my home I've been dragging my feet on.
The guys at C&C Equipment just bought a stainless FAB shop, they have a number of high wattage solid welders they will be looking to get rid of! Good bunch of guys too so maybe you can work something out with them :)
www.youtube.com/@C_CEQUIPMENT
P.S. Leak check with something like Acetone, it's thinner and may find leaks that water might not IMO. Also, Steve Morris' channel had a video a month or two ago where he spent some time with a guy who modifies cast manifolds and does a TON of fab work. They discussed welder settings, frequencies, and a bunch of tech at length. Steve said he learned a bunch so it might be worth checking out if you get a chance. Apparently really high frequencies were helpful?
Hey LT, if you're interested...check out that kid from canada with a youtube channel called "make it kustom". Ive been eatching a lot if his videos about welding and metal fab. He's really good. Might be worth it to check out his perspective on working with metal and welding. I dont weld, but ive learned quite a bit just from watching guys like yourself and him and a few others. Keep up the good work. Truck is coming together nicely!
Congrats man! I totally know that victorious feeling when you've worked really hard on something, concentrate forever and FINALLY get the results you were after. Great job, LT! I like that you're not afraid to make mistakes, all in the effort of learning and getting better.
Would be interesting to know why you didn't go with a dry sump system...
Nice Job Sir, But Why Not Just Make Your Own Pan...!! Just A Thought...!!
Good video im putting 2020 rotors and 4 piston calibers I'm my 1999 chevy silverado ! Before that need to find some GMC 20 in rims any thks for the video
USE A FINER BLADE ON SAW. It will bite and grab one time and you will get the shock of your life
My Trailblazer SS AWD oil pan has the axels going through it. No this isn't a typo. It was an absolute motherfucker to take out and put back in.
Thanks for great content!.. always liked you on PN, AND that it's ok to mess up, learn, and accomplish things on your own
Nice 👍 definitely correct on taking time on welding cast aluminum. I've mig welded cast aluminum and found that taking time is the key someday I want to give tig a try again. On a side note I wonder if wrapping duct tape or similar inside out around the thumb on welding glove would help with feeding the tig rod.
The better way to do this is section the oil pan so you use the section you cut out and you just fill the gaps you create when you pull out the side of the sump.
It uses less material and lets you keep things like the two bungs.
I would have also made the top piece a pan baffle too.
Hey LT! Great job there! Just wondering what filler rod you used for this?
I was thinking you could fill the new oil cavity with water before you attached it, then measure it to see what the new feature adds. But doing it after works, too.
Good job!
Exactly what I was going to say
Use a regular Mechanix style glove on the left hand for better filler rod control.
one question i have now that there is more capacity on one side will you need to add a trap door set up to keep the oil from going all to one side away from the pick up?
Are you still going to make the trap door in the bottom of the oil pan, to control the oil from climbing the back of the motor?
Try some RTV or something sticky on the thumb of your glove to help feed in the longer rod.
LT,..., id weld that inner lip where the new extension meets the original pan (on the inside), then smooth it out.
But your oil return line is below the oil level. It’ll work, but oil will back up in the line.
It's called a bevel gauge. I had to think about it because it's been so long since I used one. Nice job!
You should start a forging channel like BigStack
Wouldnt a couple of holes along the bottom of the oil pan been enough to let oil in and out of the new section without dicing up the oil pan?
Those are some incredible welds!! Nice work!!
Would adding a remote dual oil filter setup help add more capacity to your system?
What type wire did you use to weld it to the pa?
Nice job on your welds looks like they say staking dimes.
Might want to weld the seams on the inside of the pan for extra strength and insurance
Who ended up with the single cab duramax?
ALL YOU HAD TO DO WAS ADD OIL COOLERS TO ADD CAPACITY NO MODS NECESSARY...
Remote mount oil filter with a 2qt filter and oil cooler? Although ill admit, that looked like fun too! lol
The extra in the pan is to prevent the pump pickup from running dry.
@@casper5478 I understand, but even more capacity never hurt anything. and a remote mount filter and oil cooler would compliment the increased pan capacity. I was asking a question if those were possible future mods.
How is the S10 coming along?
I'm just curious, if the goal was to increase oil capacity, why not just add an external oil cooler and filter relocation kit? In my old Baja Subaru race car that alone added over a quart, and lowered oil temps dramatically. Or was it necessary to increase the pan size because of concern of oil starvation due to lack of a baffle? Keep up the good work.
The oil cooler does not add the necessary 2qt to the oil sump, it does increase the total volume. The oil pump can suck the sump dry because of the skid plates, so its volume needs to be increased by that 2 qt.
awesome job with the aluminum welding
What type and brand of oil are you running
No resperator. Stop grinding or welding alumininum without it. Not good for you man.
Good recipe for alshimers
Did the 4500 , 5500 Topkick , Kodiaks with 8.1 have a deeper pan ?
Either the same pan or in some applications a full sump pan which is same as marine pan
Using a argon helium mix would get you a hotter weld for your aluminum. Steve Morris just did a video with another guy showing how he does aluminum cast welding and he's one of the top welders in the world and he uses helium argon mix but at a much higher frequency.
Try welding cast aluminum pipe with stick welding! That's fun!
What a kool video, your skills amaze me. I cant wait to see the fabrication on the twin turbo piping. Love the channel please keep the content comming.
Super glad you leak tested it.
What if you add a big oil cooler
You did a fantastic job! It's been awesome to watch. Thanks for sharing!
You are getting good!
Looks awesome!
Use time lapse to show the complete process. Looking good!!!
Good job LT!
That is going to be so nice that you took the time to think through it and get er done. Great work LT
Thanks
Man you are cold with a welder. I aspire to be this good.
Hey lt love the build and seeing it come together thx for the great vids
why do you need a bigger oil pan anyways
you answered my question
so never mind lol
Also electrode positive dose the cleaning.
That pan came out really well. Nice job
Congrats lt. That’s sweet
342 👍's up LT thank you for sharing 🤗
Pics of silicon and put it on your thumb that way it'll slide on your glove but it'll grab the aluminum filler rod and move it towards your welding position