I think it’s a case where neither of them were in the right, but diesel was worse. Duck was wrong for immediately, assuming the worst of diesel, a Diesel also believed himself to be superior to everyone there. Till that point they were on the same level of immoral behavior, it’s when diesel decided to try to get Duck sent packing over a single joke that the diesel engine went too far. Besides by the end, duck proved that despite his negative qualities, he can be truly selfless as he tried to stop a Runaway Train
At least his suspicions of Diesel were proven correct later on. Diesel did reveal some of his true nature to him when they're alone by stating that diesels don't need to learn and are revolutionary then a lot more when he start telling lies about Duck. Even if Duck didn't play a trick on him or acted wrong, Diesel would still reveal his true nature and wouldn't listen to him either way.
It's to the credit of these stories that they have flawed protagonists. The Reverend wrote characters with very realistic, human personalities, and everyone has moments where they need to keep their egos in check. Diesel is an excellently written villain in his introductory story because he is, unfortunately, a lot like people you meet in real life. There are people who can't take responsibility for their own mistakes and blame them on others, and are very skilled at manipulating people into turning against whomever they so choose. Duck and the Diesel Engine is an excellent cautionary tale that prepares children for the types of people they will meet in adulthood.
The situation between Duck and Diesel was six of one and half a dozen of another. Duck did get too proud and boastful of his heritage and wound the big engines up. It depends on The Railway Series or The TV Series as to whether The City of Truro came to The Island which causes Duck to boast about his heritage. It is a natural thing for people to talk about certain things in a pleased manner and it is not like Gordon, Henry and James boast about themselves. But Diesel arrived on Sodor, also became boastful claiming he knows how to shunt trucks and Duck could see right through Diesel with his sinister voice. However when push comes to shove, excuse the pun, he demonstrated he couldn’t do it. Duck should’ve still made sure that Diesel collected the right trucks and instead left Diesel to decide for himself resulting in the situation. But Diesel poured more oil on the fire and told lies about Duck which resulted in Duck getting sent away. Duck did come through after his accident in the next story A Close Shave stopping the runaway goods train and crashing into the barbershop where he prevented people from injury or death. This made everyone change their opinion on Duck. I have been like Duck and Diesel in two different situations at work.
Diesel is such a interesting character, especially in this story. I tend to harmonise characters traits from all eras of the franchise so excuse me if it wasn’t Awdry’s intention. The story is presented from Duck’s pov but not Diesels, I do think he is trying to fit in with the others and make friends, yes it does imply he feels above everyone else due to his ideology of being the new tech, but that’s also a Gordon to Edward trait thing. Duck being the one to take no nonsense of his smooth talk mask likely anger him that he isn’t taken seriously. The fact that Diesel knew Duck just stand there and didn’t tell him about the trucks didn’t help his viewpoint of the pannier, so he doubles down and does what he thinks are Duck’s malicious tactics after “reassurance” from the big engines, talking to the trucks. (Or he just gets the idea from them idk) I think the similarities between the 08 and pannier is a nice twisted reflection of Duck, even if ego is the only thing they have in common. so uhh… quack quack wins.
Duck cast the first stone and Diesel cast one back but did so below the belt, so to say. Duck was right to be suspicious of Diesel but he brought the events of Duck and the Diesel Engine on himself. I used to think it was a mistake by John T. Kenney but the fact that he depicted EDWARD of all engines as being sick and tired of Duck, had to be deliberate. It was to truly show how much of an obnoxious ass Duck was being in order for the kindest, most patient character to be annoyed with him. No doubt Awdry probably instructed Kenney to specifically add Edward to the scene in order to demonstrate that it's not just the typical moaning and whining from the big engines. Diesel is easily the villain of the book but Duck is easily the one who instigated the events of it all due to his ego.
You know, while this is most likely a goof that happened while filming the episode, the first truck being derailed could be another reason why Diesel had trouble moving the train.
Diesel represents the torries they left with little fan fare
Wait, DIESEL IS THE REASON I CAN'T GET A 10P FREDDO
@@RustonProductions-AVREyes
*mic drop*
Context?
@@RustonProductions-AVREPlease elaborate
I think it’s a case where neither of them were in the right, but diesel was worse.
Duck was wrong for immediately, assuming the worst of diesel, a Diesel also believed himself to be superior to everyone there.
Till that point they were on the same level of immoral behavior, it’s when diesel decided to try to get Duck sent packing over a single joke that the diesel engine went too far.
Besides by the end, duck proved that despite his negative qualities, he can be truly selfless as he tried to stop a Runaway Train
While I don't think Duck is the villain I'll say this much
Duck is a little bit petty
Despite that his suspicions were right regardless.
At least his suspicions of Diesel were proven correct later on. Diesel did reveal some of his true nature to him when they're alone by stating that diesels don't need to learn and are revolutionary then a lot more when he start telling lies about Duck. Even if Duck didn't play a trick on him or acted wrong, Diesel would still reveal his true nature and wouldn't listen to him either way.
It's to the credit of these stories that they have flawed protagonists. The Reverend wrote characters with very realistic, human personalities, and everyone has moments where they need to keep their egos in check.
Diesel is an excellently written villain in his introductory story because he is, unfortunately, a lot like people you meet in real life. There are people who can't take responsibility for their own mistakes and blame them on others, and are very skilled at manipulating people into turning against whomever they so choose. Duck and the Diesel Engine is an excellent cautionary tale that prepares children for the types of people they will meet in adulthood.
And yet, so many still get manipulated 😅😂
7:17 what a brilliant line mate, smashing video bro
2:49 you have to give him points for creativity
People who say “Duck was the villain” completely forget the line “After you left, he told lies about Henry.” Diesel is just like this.
Montague in TATHP: Am I a joke to you?!
The situation between Duck and Diesel was six of one and half a dozen of another. Duck did get too proud and boastful of his heritage and wound the big engines up. It depends on The Railway Series or The TV Series as to whether The City of Truro came to The Island which causes Duck to boast about his heritage. It is a natural thing for people to talk about certain things in a pleased manner and it is not like Gordon, Henry and James boast about themselves. But Diesel arrived on Sodor, also became boastful claiming he knows how to shunt trucks and Duck could see right through Diesel with his sinister voice. However when push comes to shove, excuse the pun, he demonstrated he couldn’t do it. Duck should’ve still made sure that Diesel collected the right trucks and instead left Diesel to decide for himself resulting in the situation. But Diesel poured more oil on the fire and told lies about Duck which resulted in Duck getting sent away. Duck did come through after his accident in the next story A Close Shave stopping the runaway goods train and crashing into the barbershop where he prevented people from injury or death. This made everyone change their opinion on Duck. I have been like Duck and Diesel in two different situations at work.
I don't think Diesel should've been sent packing. Instead, shut up in the sheds.
great watch, there are valid points from both parties.
i still believe duck was a prick
I believe that too. Diesel should've been shut up in the shed, not sent packing.
If duck didnt play that trick, diesel and steaming racism wouldn't happen on sodor
Diesel is such a interesting character, especially in this story. I tend to harmonise characters traits from all eras of the franchise so excuse me if it wasn’t Awdry’s intention. The story is presented from Duck’s pov but not Diesels, I do think he is trying to fit in with the others and make friends, yes it does imply he feels above everyone else due to his ideology of being the new tech, but that’s also a Gordon to Edward trait thing. Duck being the one to take no nonsense of his smooth talk mask likely anger him that he isn’t taken seriously. The fact that Diesel knew Duck just stand there and didn’t tell him about the trucks didn’t help his viewpoint of the pannier, so he doubles down and does what he thinks are Duck’s malicious tactics after “reassurance” from the big engines, talking to the trucks. (Or he just gets the idea from them idk) I think the similarities between the 08 and pannier is a nice twisted reflection of Duck, even if ego is the only thing they have in common. so uhh… quack quack wins.
The book doesn't address who's the hero or villian in this sinarrio which makes it perfect
Duck cast the first stone and Diesel cast one back but did so below the belt, so to say.
Duck was right to be suspicious of Diesel but he brought the events of Duck and the Diesel Engine on himself. I used to think it was a mistake by John T. Kenney but the fact that he depicted EDWARD of all engines as being sick and tired of Duck, had to be deliberate. It was to truly show how much of an obnoxious ass Duck was being in order for the kindest, most patient character to be annoyed with him. No doubt Awdry probably instructed Kenney to specifically add Edward to the scene in order to demonstrate that it's not just the typical moaning and whining from the big engines.
Diesel is easily the villain of the book but Duck is easily the one who instigated the events of it all due to his ego.
You know, while this is most likely a goof that happened while filming the episode, the first truck being derailed could be another reason why Diesel had trouble moving the train.
Not when this video is based on the RWS
Duck is still bad, sure Duck didn’t tell diesel to take the old trucks. But still, he could have tell diesel not to take those trucks.
i dont know what this means will but this sure is interesting
I can confirm, it will be interesting.
I always thought that Duck was petty and just as wrong as Diesel
I hope this video convinced you otherwise!
this is peak diesel propaganda
Where did you find the Devious Diesel version of that Beatles song?
Brilliant video Will! I just have one question, how did you make those ertl (visual interpretations) sets?
Thank God someone gets it
Duck just say collect the trucks
he never clarified and said get the old trucks in the siding
His smile said otherwise
4:44: Johnny Morris' or Willie Rushton's narration?
It's Alexander Bruce!
@@WillThomas199 You mean Bruce Alexander.
just when I finished watching tobias and the half pariah, this video is recommended to me
Lol
You voice Sunshine in tug tales
That he does.
@@alexproductions7219 He does a great Geordie accent well done
You’re a genius 🤩🤩
I thought that was an April Fools video. Just like SleepyHenry's video of Edward the Villain
That would've made sense if it was uploaded on April 1st, however this video was uploaded on July 5th.
@@WillThomas199 Oh okay. So, this video you make was an April Fools video?
@@AlexHumanBoy101 No this was not an April fools video, hence why it wasn't uploaded on April 1st.
@@WillThomas199 Oh okay
Maybe could you do something about Cranky Bugs please?
Perhaps one day!
Steam locomotive
Impossible
i dislike aeg diesel being a villain, also duck is gonna appear in aeg
No
no no he was not
Yes yes he was. Mostly petty tho
@@4eyesJustin no im sure he was not
@@williamhenryvandeco2879 yeah I’m sure he had a bad bone like diesel
@@4eyesJustin listen man im not in the mood for an argument just duck was less of a villain than you think he was
@@williamhenryvandeco2879 I wouldn't consider Duck a villain, but he wasn't innocent.
Duck stinks
𝔻𝕦𝕔𝕜 𝕚𝕤 𝕛𝕤 𝕔𝕝𝕦𝕞𝕤𝕪