@@jonvon2044I'm more on the "those who make the calls are idiots" side of things, as I've seen in person similar dynamics elsewhere where I know for a fact the people in charge were in fact not doing it on purpose and also were actually measurably stupid
A society where law abiding people are punished for being so is headed for trouble. How are we literally discouraging people from doing the right things.
$500 a month for public transit? Lol you can get a car payment for less than that. When did public transit become more expensive to use than buying a car?
In Geneva, which, although very small compared to NYC, but among the top 10 most expensive cities in the world and with a brilliant, clean and punctual public transport system you can pretty much get a yearly! subscription for that.
Better yet, you can get a motorbike or scooter paid in full for less than a year of that...and you don't have to deal with aggressive Michael Jackson impersonators.
Something quite similar happened with a new school building in the town next to the one I used to live in. They built a brand new school building, but would not budget for ongoing maintenance. So, about 7 years in, as the building had cracked windows, and worn out floors and doors hanging off bent hinges... the roof started leaking. The town's answer was to tell the janitorial staff to deal with the roof. Well, the janitorial staff said no, backed up by the lack of "roofing repair" in their job descriptions. - So the town had to not only scramble to find money to repair all of the stuff that had been breaking down over time, but they had to also rent portable classroom trailers to stand in for all of the classrooms that failed the state's inspections. - And still the town did not replace their council members.
They're not "asking" for more taxes. They're not "asking" commuters to pay more. They are demanding it under force of government violence. There is a slight difference.
500$ for a monthly pass? WHAT? THAT'S INSANE. Here in Turin for a public transport network that is VASTLY superior to New York's an average person pays 38$ for a monthly pass... And I haven't seen someone jump a turnstyle in the subway in a while.
As of this month, anyone can use most forms of public transport (high-speed trains not included) in Germany for 50€ a month. So, basically you pay 50€ to be able to travel around the country and in every city whenever and wherever you want.
That is quite ridiculous. I had to look it up for Dallas. It's $96 for a monthly pass (half that if you qualify for reduced fair, double if you need the regional pass) and $960 for an annual pass. It's no surprise that public transit is less subsidized in Texas than in Europe, but you'd expect it to be less subsidized than in New York as well.
Where i live, $500 would cover most of the cost of an ANNUAL ticket/pass (The country where i live doesn’t actually use dollars, but an all zone annual ticket is £793.60 for the tyne and wear metro (the “ticket” must be uploaded to a smart card, the only paper tickets available are Single, Day, or Week, Week tickets can also be uploaded to a smart card instead of having a paper ticket printed, 4 Week tickets are also available, and those must be uploaded to a smart card, there are also pay as you go smart cards which give you cheaper fares than single or day tickets (which are scanned on the gate as you enter or leave, and with stations that don’t have ticket gates, there is a standalone reader that you have to scan the card on to start or end the jorney)))
Never paying for the train station ever again. Unless there are literally cops standing by the turnstiles, you aren't going to be stopped by anyone. And even if there are, you can simply walk to the next station in 5-10 minutes and jump the turnstile there instead. This city is a hellhole of weaponized incompetence.
@@sblijheid that was back when more people used to buy an Unlimited Metrocard, & i used to swipe people in too, but now, i Dont buy an Unlimited, & so do many other people, since alot more people started jumping turnstiles, buying an Unlimited, wont make sense. So someone who would wait outside for sum1 to swipe them in, will take a lot longer
@@capt.blackcheesemo3111 sort of like doing the same thing over and over and wondering why this is happening to me. People just live in denial. Never want to believe that maybe they are doing the wrong thing.
Like govt writ large. There comes a time when the imbalance of the corrupt outweighs those left to extort. We are mere moments from that seesaw switching weight.
"We don't necessarily wanna fck things up, but an organization such as ours, we have to fck things up because that's what organizations like ours do." -NYC Government Paid Goon.
The corruption in Puerto Rico is on another level though. Literally put hurricane relief into warehouses to make Trump look bad. But that was just glossed over by the media when it was discovered. If NYC had Puerto Rico levels of corruption the Upstate would be in process of seceding already.
@George's Curious yea Mr orange is no help with all he says from his mouth. but he is not about what the basic party is about. His laws ere good his mouth was not. Incentives VS laws and cutting expenses vs spending. is really the difference that could change things. Putting an Orange mans face in there really is just propaganda.
Denmark uses a system where you're on your honor to buy a ticket but they do occasional spotchecks and you face a hefty fine if you don't have a ticket - and it's a rare occasion when someone doesn't have a ticket and half the time it's a tourist that just didn't understand the system. Their systems are clean, safe, and fast. Such a different culture. No way we could have nice things like that here.
Why would you want to pay for such a terrible service? If I walked into a poorly maintained business and saw it full of rats, garbage and drugged out homeless people I wouldn't want anything to do with it. 🤷🏻♂️
@@jonvon2044 Even when a friend's brother was attacked by a mentally ill person and able to kick him away and run the police didn't do anything because they said it wasn't a hate crime? A bystander recorded some of the attack and the police didn't care. They never followed up or did anything.
So i gotta pay more in taxes to pay for the train THAT I DONT EVEN TAKE ANYMORE BC ITS ASS. Mannn I’m tired of this shit. I remember the days when it was still $1.50 and things have only gotten worse. I hate it here.
This is the same issue happening in SF Bay Area. They want to raise taxes and raise prices for a system with declining ridership year over year and this was a decade ago
I remember when BART was upholstered and carpeted and predictable to within a few seconds: pretty nice. Last visit, loud, hard, half the seats taken out in the name of fat f accessibility and running with significant delays.
break it and replace it. throw out the crew, take on efficient managers, give them a reasonable budget (so they can worry less about FRR and more about making the service actually work) and sit back.
As a british person I can say that while the london underground is not perfect and it is very expensive, it is (mostly) reliable. It has issues like the central line getting very hot but its functional and its a lot better than cars.
Yet people still complain about it. It's 100 times better than the 80's and 90's. I know because I used to work on the Northern Line LOL, the Misery Line as it was called.
Meanwhile, Northern Rail, LNER, and Transpennine Express, all now under TfL OLR, because the companies running them were doing such a crap job. That's 3 operators for my main station (Leeds), all affected by that.
Got to experience this for the first time in Chicago. Bus to the subway was late, then waited to board what was one of the smelliest trains I've ever been on (a girl some seats away was even harassed by a man angrily asking for money before opening the /emergency only door/ to cross into the next car), got on and 3 stops in they announce the line is terminating and everyone needs to board a shuttle bus for the next 4 stops before reboarding the train to continue on. I would've taken an uber at that point but was told the traffic was so bad that this'd still be faster. Seriously how much of people's time is wasted by inefficient and unpleasant city transit?
You can get a car loan with monthly payments less than $500 a month. You also don't have crazy drug addicts sitting next to you screaming they are going to kill you when you have your own car.
Have you seen the prices of cares lately? Let alone gas? Parking in N.Y is very expensive and to get anywhere takes forever. Not as cheap as you think it is, having a car in there.
Save money and get an e-bike. The city would be a lot better off if they could ban private cars, leaving the roads for delivery trucks (including mail vehicles) and two-wheeled transport.
It’s like they actually DO KNOW about the existence of samsara but also are just actually evil demonic animals who are too self obsessed to realize that most people don’t think twice about the incomprehensible eternity. The only way I can understand the logic that goes behind making so confidently making these insanely stupid decisions is if politicians genuinely believe they are psychics divined by the masses.
That has been the philosophy of Democrats for quite some time now. They now pretty much hate the law-abiding, tax-paying middle class and small business owners. They always want them to shoulder the burden for everything.
2.5 hrs to travel 20 miles on public transport in New York. The same distance, on public transport, would be 1.5 hours* here in Sydney (NSW, Australia) Via motorbike, 40-50 mins. * Not accounting for service delays and strikes.
There's an economic principle called The Laffer Curve that illustrates the problem quite nicely. Raising prices increases revenue, but only to a point. Once the prices get too high you start losing revenue because it's more economically advantageous to find ways around the fee altogether.
This exact thing happened in Toronto Canada in the 90s where transit service got cut, it got worse, and unpleasant to use, which made more people stop using it, and the cycle repeated. It took an insane amount of reinvestment and public outreach to get ridership back up. Contributed to horrible horrible traffic, tons of people leaving, and to the current urban sprawl we have and a host of other problems
This is a textbook example of a monopoly. They don't need to give a f**k about the customer, and they can raise the prices whenever they want without a reason.
@@rsr789 the subway system should in theory be competing with having your own transportation, offering cheaper requirements and high quality service. in practice NYC roads are such a shitshow that the subway is practically mandatory if you want to get places.
Corrupt governments can be counted on to do the easiest thing 100% of the time. Which one is easier, making the subway better, cracking down on crime, or just raising the price for people who choose voluntarily to pay? Duh. Same choices as the federal government, just tax the few people who pay taxes MORE and throw that money at the problems. Put a fee on high credit ratings to pay for low credit ratings. Raise hospital prices for people with money and insurance to pay for all the people who use the ER and never pay.
I dunno. We in Russian dictatorship are waging war AND adding lines to our Metro. Can't imagine it being all that easy. Especially with the easy way to just carpet bomb civilians and military at the same time... We just don't do that.
People: *Jump turnstiles. NYC: No problem, not a crime. Also NYC: The MTA is going bankrupt for some reason, increase tolls. People: *Jump turnstiles. NYC: Why didn't the toll hikes work?
For Gravesend to Bushwick, Google Maps quotes 45 minutes by road and 1 hour 15 minutes by train. Given that there are no traffic jams on the train, that is already discouraging. Apparently, though, it's a huge underestimate!
500 per month for just NYC?! For that price you almost get a Bahncard 100 first class(7.5k, second class 4.3k per year) in Germany. And the 100 stands for the percentage discount. That means free travel on all trains nation wide. First class is often only available on long distance trains. But of course your first class card also grants you access to second class seats. And since DB also operates trains in neighboring countries it also provides some international travel options.
The monthly metrocard in NYC is around $135 IIRC. The $500 pass mentioned is likely commuter rail on Long Island or Metro North which covers 120+ miles. Still too expensive for the service received.
@@einkommentar6673 But that is super new, like released May this year new. But it is a welcome addition nonetheless, even though Germany is late to the party considering Austria already had something better and Luxembourg it's completely free.
I knew public transport in America was bad but $500 dollars for a month pass?? What the fuck?! I couldn't even rack up that much money if i tried to in The Netherlands. I pay maybe like a 100 euroes a month to travel to a different city entirely for study. I now understand why nobody uses that shit in the US.
Its so frustrating that the honest people have to pay for those that are skipping fares. And I don't even ride the MTA anymore, not by choice at least.
Lived in NY from late 80s to late 90s. Each time I go back, I can't understand how I stuck it out in that cesspool for 11 years, and how 8+ million still put themselves through self-imposed torture. Unless you're making millions and have a chauffeur driven car, why put up with this hell?
Funny that i noticed in the past few months that there have been a significantly increased amount cops stationed at each subway in name of passenger safety.
On the platform, not by the turnstiles. And in many occasions I've seen police let ppl thru, even holding the doors open for fare beaters. Or witness and jumper and returning to their phone.
Keep in mind that also the federal government was giving enormous pandemic financial relief for transit systems since 2020. So this was a problem that could have been addressed earlier, but governments are the worst.
I live in a southern California city. Whenever I compare public transit with driving for everyday use I wonder why I would ever want to take it. I can take an hour and 20 minute bus ride, or hop in my car drive for 15-20 minutes then have the convenience of leaving whenever I want. The only time I take the trolley is for a baseball game because downtown parking sucks. Paying $50 for parking is way too much. Taking the commuter train is for weekend novelty or when I have to go to jury duty downtown.
Boston’s MBTA is both cheaper, cleaner, and more efficient than NY subway system at the fraction of NYC spending budget. Sure, their system isn’t as complex, but considering matched scalability factor, their system is still far cheaper by comparison. If you statistically increase the MBTA to match the infrastructure of NYC MTA, you’re looking at about $10 billion (from their $2.9 billion) and it’s still less than half of what MTA spends their infrastructure on.
Layoff all the BS ticket collectors on the LIRR and Metro North reduce it to one person to help handicap people get on and off safely per train. Someone doesn't need to make $40/hr to collect a ticket which an automated turnstile could.
-- It's fairly "automated" already. Actually, a reasonable case can be made to make transit FREE in the 5 counties of NYC. Think of it as horizontal elevators.
Have you seen the British public transit? Ever since it was broken up and managed by multiple companies, trying to get from point A and point B has been a nightmare of figuring out schedules and fares.
As somenone born and raised in the UK you are absolutely correct that public transport can work sure there might be a 5-10min delay now and then and a train or bus may be cancelled occasionally but there is not too long a wait for the next one and they have pretty consistant timetables.
The NYC mayor today said we have 70k illegal migrants in nyc and 42k are still in nyc's care, NYC has already spent 1 Billion on the migrant crisis, and expects to spend 4 Billion more. Earlier this week he and Hochul said they want to hire thousands of asylum seekers, even if they arent approved. And over 50 percent of the hotels in nyc are housing migrants at taxpayers expensive. Louis is gonna end up making why pay taxes in NYC video the way things are going
Totally agree. The transit in my city is also terrible. A 20 minute drive can take an hour and a half. I could make the trip faster by bike. Haven't used the transit more than twice in over a decade because I had to go to a doctor's appointment that I wasn't allowed to drive home from (so there and back). They've just recently raised the fare to $3.50 CAD...
They don't even need to jump over or crawl under the turnstyles. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE DO, if you pull back on the top turnstyle arm slightly, there's usually more than enough space to squeeze between the other two arms.
Seattle's homeless problem is very much like the NYC subway problem keeps throwing alot more money at it and the problem only gets worse. I make 90k a year and I own a condo on the outskirts of the Seattle but commute has gotten so bad because the city won't widen freeways or expand the light rail system that I've decided to live in a Van 3 or 4 days a week and come back to my condo on the weekend. I'm not exactly homeless but I'll be taking up space on residential streets because I can't find affordable housing within 1 hours commute of my job. I've already bought the Van and I am in the process of converting it into a room on wheels. I won't be one of those dirty homeless people I have access to a gym shower and can dump my trash at the condo on the weekend. I'm also getting pretty tired of paying the King County property tax and will sell my condo as soon as I have enough equity for a downpayment on a pretty little house in the country and then the city will get $0 tax dollars from me, How does that sound?
Let’s not forget: nyc’s new DA Alvin Bragg specifically said he would not prosecute certain crimes, specifically turnstile jumping . Per usual : this ties back to how people vote.
Hmm, they told people they wouldn't stop them from jumping turnstiles, more people jumped the turnstiles, and their response is to raise the price? This is some Nintendo tier logic.
Thing is, transit cops are very nearly invisible, or so busy staring down at their iPhones they can't be bothered with anything they're employed to do.
Because they aren't given any authority. If they do anything there's a protest and the city's leadership will stab them in the back immediately, they'll probably get prosecuted. So they put their heads down and do nothing, just like most of the people living there. NYC is like Harvey Weinstein; gross, disgusting, uncomfortable, sometimes dangerous, but no one wants to say anything because they're making so much money.
It's NYC. They'll get fired and thrown under the bus if they actually do their jobs. Unless of course that job is apprehending someone who defended themselves or fleecing the law abiding public for ticket money.
Our subway is $0.25 per ride, is clean, has free wifi and 4g working everywhere, and has rarely any issue. One of our stations is in the list of most beautiful in the world and another one is the deepest in the world. It's Ukraine
@@rossmanngroup I just see your face but I’m sure it’ll change at some point and I’ll get it .. thanks for the reply and thank you for the inspiration (life and also cat)
Just by comparison, the Tokyo Subway system is spotless, safe and always on time. And the cost is $1.50 to $2.00 depending on how far you go. And many of the stations are distinctive and pretty. NYC has zero excuse for this, and they need to get their act together.
@@TheSlothFather Not sure if I agree. Parts of the Tokyo Subway were built a hundred years ago in the Meiji era. They were clean and worked then and they're clean and work now. If course, many parts of the system were damaged in the 1923 Earthquake and in the War, but that's all been seamlessly and perfectly fixed long ago. In fact, the Tokyo subway has extensive preparations for earthquakes and floods, that far exceed anything in NYC. Also, the trains run very often, so it's not as crowded as you think.
@@geoffk777 We do agree, you just misunderstood what I typed, because there's something about Japan that's exactly the same as it was in 1923 that cannot be said at all for the US. Certain demographics just aren't compatible with a civilized society.
I work in the rail sector, the one thing you overlook is how much it costs to not just maintain the system, but to upgrade when it's absolutely necessary. Engines/cars are in that category, but a lot of times the authority wants the capability to run more trains through particular areas, and replacing existing signaling systems is a MASSIVE undertaking. NYCT has the craziest standards in the country, and trying to install these systems are especially insane in NYC when most of the time you only have a few hours overnight to do anything (since trains can't stop running during normal times). This isn't even factoring in how most stations look like shit and desperately need renovation that they refuse to fund. People who fare skip is a problem, their bigger problem is less and less overall ridership (since people are working from home or just leaving NYC altogether), so the people who are paying everyday are dealt the shit hand (as usual). The MTA is ridiculously fucked up, and it's not going to change, regardless of what happens.
I guarantee you, the costs would be more than paid with the existing budget if you removed all the graft, fraud, and other corruption draining it from actually getting things done. He's not overlooking that you actually need money to fix things. He just knows that none of that extra money is actually going to be used that way. Pouring more water into a bucket with the bottom ripped out still isn't going to fill it.
Forget upgrading. MAINTAIN, first of all. Fix, or replace. Don't let addicts and thugs in there. Why is it that I, in Russia, where I'm pretty sure half the population in Moscow has a free public transport pass has clean Metro, as well as it being DEVELOPED in these years? We got two circles recently. No smell, a bit loud, but clean.
Funny you spoke about how the train is always late. I live in the Caribbean and for many years our relatives in NYC boast about how efficient the transportation system is in NYC - not that I ever believed them - so hearing this from you is exactly what I suspected. Is it possible that people who are employed by the transportation system have their own transport businesses and are in fact competing with their employer? Do they have their own Uber or taxi service and could care less about how efficient the service is? Usually, public service or government accounting doesn't account for depreciation as part of expenses to secure an allotment every financial period to go towards repayment for assets. It just accounts for absolute cost. So they use whatever is left over to replace assets and maintain infrastructure or rely on budget meetings to decide how they are going to pay for it.
I don’t miss spending half a day to run a simple errand bc of waiting on public transportation. In the time I used to spend commuting to work on the MTA, I can drive to another city in CO.
I’d love to see a CCTV surveillance view of the turnstiles and people jumping in dress suits mimicking the migration of wildebeest jumping into and then climbing out of the river.
They can't see because they don't work, Sunset Park shooting cameras didn't work 4 days before. www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/subway-cameras-stopped-working-4-days-before-sunset-park-shooting-report-says/
@rossmanngroup yeah.. thinking about it.. there would have to be some massive embezzling going on over there. I whole heartedly agree the people running it need to be ran out of town 😆 🤣 😂 😹
I would love to stay here since it's my home & there's no place like it (cliché lol), but it's heartbreaking that this city has done nothing but shut out my family and I. From the MTA being incompetent in every aspect to government office making you do all the work to fill out paperwork, only turn around & blame you for their f ups, almost ALMOST ruining your life (yes something similar to Louis's saga has happened to many of us). On top of all of that, "politics" has torn apart the ancient art of conversation, leading to so much hatred running rampant throughout the city that was already the "rudest" (yes I know new yorkers are rude to an extent but that's not always the case). There's a giant wall nyc is heading towards at full speed & these tone deaf changes only picks up the pace each time. All while this is going on, the rich at the tippy top get richer, & everyone at the bottom points at each other to blame. It's getting much more difficult to stay here when I love the place but the people.........🙃
@sblijheid7420 yeah lots of people suggest to leave but I don't have the funds to relocate, just like that 🙄 plus I have family here & they're my support system, so it would be dumb of me to move somewhere on my own
Can we have you as president for a couple of terms? Even though your videos are generally targeted towards New York, you’re giving people the breakdown on how to identify and point out flaws in their own communities. Thank you.
They could just build a wall with a rotating door that locks if you don't pay. Unless there's some kind of safety issue why they have a turnstile that's jumpable
I've taken public transport for 15 years in the UK and it's massively awful here too. Train tickets one-way are double the price it would cost to drive a car on a return journey. They're considering getting rid of customers WiFi services on trains to cut costs! Madness and garbage. Such a shame
They should just install cellular repeaters, its a one time cost plus maintenance instead of needing to pay for internet for those people to use the wifi. Cellular repeaters would give people the ability to use their cell plans, free wifi seems like a luxury
@@sugarbooty they do do this on the underground. The problem in the UK is that trains aren't as profitable as they need to be. People don't use them enough, prices go up so people use them less etc
I remember the good old days on London Underground before every cnt was on their fucking phone, because they didn't work in tunnels. They couldn't wait to get out into the open section so they could be constantly yapping loudly and god-damn loud ringtones to make sure everyone else on the train could hear them. Now it's everywhere.
The beggining of the death spiral is increasing the costs on a smaller base population, instead of slashing costs to keep the burden lower. But NY does not see citizens as customers to serve, but a resource to be squeezed.
Because some people were conditioned to hate things that are considered for poor/not wealthy people or something of the sort. Truthfully there are no easy answers.
It’s not about hate, it’s just not feasible or reliable and some just refuse. I lived in LA, buses were always late, locals would rather drive, while complaining about traffic. LA is expanding its subway but I wonder if anyone will use it besides the homeless?
@@alicelong3613 See the trick is you need to just spend money on making it better and get good management without caring about profitability. That's what successful public transit operators do. American cities either have their transit institutions become corrupt money pits or just refuse to spend on fixing things
That is insane. I went to high school in Louisville,Kentucky in the late 60s. I could walk to school and arrive 40 minutes sooner than,riding a overcrowded school bus.Some things never get better,they just get worse.
@@mattatat1138 The bus I rode in,had us packed like sardines.The isle was full,all the way to the front door.If there had been a accident, it would be a bloody mess
Ah yes, punish the few who might pay while doing nothing about the underlying issues that cause people to refuse paying.
The entire problem in a nut shell which leads you to realize it must be happening on purpose.
and they keep voting democrat....Baffles me. That NEVER Could be the problem.
This is the way
These people can always stop voting Democrat.
@@jonvon2044I'm more on the "those who make the calls are idiots" side of things, as I've seen in person similar dynamics elsewhere where I know for a fact the people in charge were in fact not doing it on purpose and also were actually measurably stupid
It's a giant pension and fraud scam that occasionally provides a service.
One time i took an N train and it took the wrong turn and ended up in the R line. By now he prob earning 200k a year with 500k a year in pension
This is the real scheme right here
Oh yeah That N------R is the worst. Second worst thing is all the other N----Rs
They provide just enough of a service to act like it's not a fraud to the people not paying attention.
That's just government in a nutshell.
No group of people is this incompetent.
A society where law abiding people are punished for being so is headed for trouble. How are we literally discouraging people from doing the right things.
I mean, technically, if ya choke out all the homeless people then you've solved homelessness
A society where people abide by unconstitutional laws is heading for an even more dangerous place.
@@soulife8383 monkey's paw right there lmao. solve global warming by wiping out humanity
It’s called anarcho-tyranny.
@@sylviam6535I don't care what it's called, it's baffling that they actually think this is a good idea
$500 a month for public transit? Lol you can get a car payment for less than that. When did public transit become more expensive to use than buying a car?
the minute mayor Eric Adams decided he knows a lot about how economics work.
@@demonpride1975 To be fair this sounds more like MTA and Governors doing.
In Geneva, which, although very small compared to NYC, but among the top 10 most expensive cities in the world and with a brilliant, clean and punctual public transport system you can pretty much get a yearly! subscription for that.
Using a car in NYC is a nightmare. A fifteen minute trip becomes an hour.
Better yet, you can get a motorbike or scooter paid in full for less than a year of that...and you don't have to deal with aggressive Michael Jackson impersonators.
They're so against right-to-repair that they don't even want to repair their own stuff when they can.
Boomers?
Something quite similar happened with a new school building in the town next to the one I used to live in.
They built a brand new school building, but would not budget for ongoing maintenance.
So, about 7 years in, as the building had cracked windows, and worn out floors and doors hanging off bent hinges... the roof started leaking.
The town's answer was to tell the janitorial staff to deal with the roof. Well, the janitorial staff said no, backed up by the lack of "roofing repair" in their job descriptions.
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So the town had to not only scramble to find money to repair all of the stuff that had been breaking down over time, but they had to also rent portable classroom trailers to stand in for all of the classrooms that failed the state's inspections.
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And still the town did not replace their council members.
Bravo!
They're not "asking" for more taxes. They're not "asking" commuters to pay more. They are demanding it under force of government violence. There is a slight difference.
What is taxation but extortion done by members of the religion of government?
@@RicardoSantos-oz3uj Why do you hate roads and schools? 🤣
@@jeremiahbullfrog9288 Oh puleeeze! We all know most of the money earmarked for roads and schools goes for other not-so-useful purposes.
@@jbr84tx yeah son it was a joke, hence the laughy face
@@jbr84tx Not to mention that roads and schools could be done much more efficiently by the private sector.
Increasing the price is an invitation for more people to refuse to pay.
even the people that were paying may consider not even paying now. so they are not fixing the problem, they are actually making it worse.
@@demonpride1975 precisely
the democratic way.....do it all the time in CA too. they cant fix anything.
Fine, refuse to pay but while you're at it don't use the transportation.
Yep. That's a typical San Francisco strategy. Public transportation in and around San Francisco is unreliable, dirty, expensive and very dangerous.
500$ for a monthly pass? WHAT? THAT'S INSANE.
Here in Turin for a public transport network that is VASTLY superior to New York's an average person pays 38$ for a monthly pass... And I haven't seen someone jump a turnstyle in the subway in a while.
As of this month, anyone can use most forms of public transport (high-speed trains not included) in Germany for 50€ a month. So, basically you pay 50€ to be able to travel around the country and in every city whenever and wherever you want.
Pure Milano é circa 40€ ma confrontando le linee in rapporto prezzo Milano é in vantaggio
That is quite ridiculous. I had to look it up for Dallas. It's $96 for a monthly pass (half that if you qualify for reduced fair, double if you need the regional pass) and $960 for an annual pass. It's no surprise that public transit is less subsidized in Texas than in Europe, but you'd expect it to be less subsidized than in New York as well.
Where i live, $500 would cover most of the cost of an ANNUAL ticket/pass
(The country where i live doesn’t actually use dollars, but an all zone annual ticket is £793.60 for the tyne and wear metro (the “ticket” must be uploaded to a smart card, the only paper tickets available are Single, Day, or Week, Week tickets can also be uploaded to a smart card instead of having a paper ticket printed, 4 Week tickets are also available, and those must be uploaded to a smart card, there are also pay as you go smart cards which give you cheaper fares than single or day tickets (which are scanned on the gate as you enter or leave, and with stations that don’t have ticket gates, there is a standalone reader that you have to scan the card on to start or end the jorney)))
Dude, and I thought $141 CAD ($104 USD) was expensive. $500 a month is absolutely insane.
Never paying for the train station ever again. Unless there are literally cops standing by the turnstiles, you aren't going to be stopped by anyone. And even if there are, you can simply walk to the next station in 5-10 minutes and jump the turnstile there instead.
This city is a hellhole of weaponized incompetence.
Good, glad people are waking up to this
Or ask someone coming out to swipe you in. I used to swipe in anyone who asked when I lived there.
It's not incompetence, it's fraud.
@@sblijheid that was back when more people used to buy an Unlimited Metrocard, & i used to swipe people in too, but now, i Dont buy an Unlimited, & so do many other people, since alot more people started jumping turnstiles, buying an Unlimited, wont make sense. So someone who would wait outside for sum1 to swipe them in, will take a lot longer
if i find myself in NYC i might just try it myself lmao. hope i dont get deported though cuz im canadian.
As a New Yorker. He is 100% percent on the button with this video.
Queens guy here. Yes, I love how Louis calls out the bs of NYC.
and the people keep voting democrat.....HUH...
@@mikesrandomvideos Yep....🤦
@@capt.blackcheesemo3111 sort of like doing the same thing over and over and wondering why this is happening to me. People just live in denial. Never want to believe that maybe they are doing the wrong thing.
As a human he seems to be right about most of society
Look at the salaries of the people who run MTA. That's where the problem is.
It's the cushy union contracts that allow fraud that isn't held accountable unless the feds get involved.
No, the problem is they hired idiots to run the system. If they actually fixed it, they'd be worth every penny.
Like govt writ large. There comes a time when the imbalance of the corrupt outweighs those left to extort. We are mere moments from that seesaw switching weight.
New York is such a shit hole. I mean they try to combat people not paying by charging other more that are, ridiculous...Thanks for the video Louis
just an incentive to not pay
They socialized the cost
I got news for you, the entire country is a shithole compared to other first-world countries.
"We don't necessarily wanna fck things up, but an organization such as ours, we have to fck things up because that's what organizations like ours do." -NYC Government Paid Goon.
hey, its honesty, thats like a whole step forward for them
new york has parallels with Puerto Rico, incompetence, corruption, bad services from government and stockholm syndrome from the people reigns supreme.
makes sense, puerto rico being suppressed by the same government.
The corruption in Puerto Rico is on another level though. Literally put hurricane relief into warehouses to make Trump look bad. But that was just glossed over by the media when it was discovered. If NYC had Puerto Rico levels of corruption the Upstate would be in process of seceding already.
"It's expensive and has crime, but New York City is SOOOO AMMAAAAAAZING"
I just love how people still rationalize voting for democrats when they do this stuff. It just baffles me. Pure denial and ignorance.
@George's Curious yea Mr orange is no help with all he says from his mouth. but he is not about what the basic party is about. His laws ere good his mouth was not. Incentives VS laws and cutting expenses vs spending. is really the difference that could change things. Putting an Orange mans face in there really is just propaganda.
Denmark uses a system where you're on your honor to buy a ticket but they do occasional spotchecks and you face a hefty fine if you don't have a ticket - and it's a rare occasion when someone doesn't have a ticket and half the time it's a tourist that just didn't understand the system. Their systems are clean, safe, and fast. Such a different culture. No way we could have nice things like that here.
Why would you want to pay for such a terrible service?
If I walked into a poorly maintained business and saw it full of rats, garbage and drugged out homeless people I wouldn't want anything to do with it. 🤷🏻♂️
And get robbed without being able to legally defend yourself.
@@jonvon2044 Even when a friend's brother was attacked by a mentally ill person and able to kick him away and run the police didn't do anything because they said it wasn't a hate crime? A bystander recorded some of the attack and the police didn't care. They never followed up or did anything.
@@MBisFrenchy Time to move to another city, or perhaps Country...
@@Modhunter42 They are moving north actually
@@MBisFrenchy they're moving anywhere but there.
So i gotta pay more in taxes to pay for the train THAT I DONT EVEN TAKE ANYMORE BC ITS ASS. Mannn I’m tired of this shit. I remember the days when it was still $1.50 and things have only gotten worse. I hate it here.
This is the same issue happening in SF Bay Area. They want to raise taxes and raise prices for a system with declining ridership year over year and this was a decade ago
I remember when BART was upholstered and carpeted and predictable to within a few seconds: pretty nice. Last visit, loud, hard, half the seats taken out in the name of fat f accessibility and running with significant delays.
The MTA and Port Authority is a financial black hole, we need forensic audits of these corrupt agencies before any toll hikes or fare increases.
And what agency is going to "investigate"? The trust is gone with good reason.
As usual, the solution to a system that is wasteful with money is... to give it more money.
break it and replace it. throw out the crew, take on efficient managers, give them a reasonable budget (so they can worry less about FRR and more about making the service actually work) and sit back.
In germany I have a public transport pass for 49 Euro. its a monthly pass that lets me use almost anything but high speed intercity rail.
As a british person I can say that while the london underground is not perfect and it is very expensive, it is (mostly) reliable. It has issues like the central line getting very hot but its functional and its a lot better than cars.
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Yet people still complain about it. It's 100 times better than the 80's and 90's. I know because I used to work on the Northern Line LOL, the Misery Line as it was called.
Meanwhile, Northern Rail, LNER, and Transpennine Express, all now under TfL OLR, because the companies running them were doing such a crap job. That's 3 operators for my main station (Leeds), all affected by that.
Got to experience this for the first time in Chicago. Bus to the subway was late, then waited to board what was one of the smelliest trains I've ever been on (a girl some seats away was even harassed by a man angrily asking for money before opening the /emergency only door/ to cross into the next car), got on and 3 stops in they announce the line is terminating and everyone needs to board a shuttle bus for the next 4 stops before reboarding the train to continue on. I would've taken an uber at that point but was told the traffic was so bad that this'd still be faster. Seriously how much of people's time is wasted by inefficient and unpleasant city transit?
You can get a car loan with monthly payments less than $500 a month. You also don't have crazy drug addicts sitting next to you screaming they are going to kill you when you have your own car.
Have you seen the prices of cares lately? Let alone gas? Parking in N.Y is very expensive and to get anywhere takes forever.
Not as cheap as you think it is, having a car in there.
Save money and get an e-bike.
The city would be a lot better off if they could ban private cars, leaving the roads for delivery trucks (including mail vehicles) and two-wheeled transport.
Depends on where you drive.
Yes, let's punish the ones following the rules for the actions of the ones not doing so. This will end well for sure.
na they need to fix the problems with the system and punish the criminals rewarding the law abiders not the criminals
Leftist logic in a nutshell.
@@trikstari7687 your a leftist cool
It’s like they actually DO KNOW about the existence of samsara but also are just actually evil demonic animals who are too self obsessed to realize that most people don’t think twice about the incomprehensible eternity. The only way I can understand the logic that goes behind making so confidently making these insanely stupid decisions is if politicians genuinely believe they are psychics divined by the masses.
That has been the philosophy of Democrats for quite some time now. They now pretty much hate the law-abiding, tax-paying middle class and small business owners. They always want them to shoulder the burden for everything.
2.5 hrs to travel 20 miles on public transport in New York. The same distance, on public transport, would be 1.5 hours* here in Sydney (NSW, Australia) Via motorbike, 40-50 mins. * Not accounting for service delays and strikes.
There's an economic principle called The Laffer Curve that illustrates the problem quite nicely. Raising prices increases revenue, but only to a point. Once the prices get too high you start losing revenue because it's more economically advantageous to find ways around the fee altogether.
To paraphrase Edna Mode:
Done properly, public transit is an excellent thing.
Done. PROPERLY.
This exact thing happened in Toronto Canada in the 90s where transit service got cut, it got worse, and unpleasant to use, which made more people stop using it, and the cycle repeated. It took an insane amount of reinvestment and public outreach to get ridership back up. Contributed to horrible horrible traffic, tons of people leaving, and to the current urban sprawl we have and a host of other problems
The rants are getting rantier. I love it lol. Can you throw in something about grinding your gears too? That would make my day.
This is a textbook example of a monopoly. They don't need to give a f**k about the customer, and they can raise the prices whenever they want without a reason.
Government anything is a monopoly after all. In fact, all real monopolies of the past were State protected.
@@billmelater6470 Nowadays with lobbyists and money slips to the right pockets you might as well be state protected anyways yay corruption
It's impossible to have a subway system that isn't a monopoly...
@rsr789 1. You can have more than one subway system in a city
2. This is not an excuse to provide shitty service to the customers.
@@rsr789 the subway system should in theory be competing with having your own transportation, offering cheaper requirements and high quality service. in practice NYC roads are such a shitshow that the subway is practically mandatory if you want to get places.
The one thing you got wrong is expecting transit police to actually do anything. They're no different than TSA. It's "security theatre."
Corrupt governments can be counted on to do the easiest thing 100% of the time. Which one is easier, making the subway better, cracking down on crime, or just raising the price for people who choose voluntarily to pay? Duh. Same choices as the federal government, just tax the few people who pay taxes MORE and throw that money at the problems. Put a fee on high credit ratings to pay for low credit ratings. Raise hospital prices for people with money and insurance to pay for all the people who use the ER and never pay.
I dunno. We in Russian dictatorship are waging war AND adding lines to our Metro. Can't imagine it being all that easy. Especially with the easy way to just carpet bomb civilians and military at the same time... We just don't do that.
YES, YOU DID IT!
You Finally moved your mic away from your face and actually started Talking and not just Whispering into it!
THANKYOU.
People: *Jump turnstiles.
NYC: No problem, not a crime.
Also NYC: The MTA is going bankrupt for some reason, increase tolls.
People: *Jump turnstiles.
NYC: Why didn't the toll hikes work?
the quality of your thumbnails has gone up a lot. we appreciate you giving your cat more airtime ;)
For Gravesend to Bushwick, Google Maps quotes 45 minutes by road and 1 hour 15 minutes by train. Given that there are no traffic jams on the train, that is already discouraging. Apparently, though, it's a huge underestimate!
The cat just tries to chill and Louis rages hard.
500 per month for just NYC?!
For that price you almost get a Bahncard 100 first class(7.5k, second class 4.3k per year) in Germany.
And the 100 stands for the percentage discount. That means free travel on all trains nation wide. First class is often only available on long distance trains. But of course your first class card also grants you access to second class seats. And since DB also operates trains in neighboring countries it also provides some international travel options.
Damn, Germany and it seems Europe's train network sounds fun to screw around and just cruise about on.
@@joefer5360 There is also a monthly ticket for 49€ that you can use for all Regonal Trains, Busses and Trams in Germany
@@joefer5360 Europe is smaller than the IS, I used to live there and take the train everywhere. Loved it
The monthly metrocard in NYC is around $135 IIRC. The $500 pass mentioned is likely commuter rail on Long Island or Metro North which covers 120+ miles. Still too expensive for the service received.
@@einkommentar6673 But that is super new, like released May this year new. But it is a welcome addition nonetheless, even though Germany is late to the party considering Austria already had something better and Luxembourg it's completely free.
I knew public transport in America was bad but $500 dollars for a month pass?? What the fuck?! I couldn't even rack up that much money if i tried to in The Netherlands. I pay maybe like a 100 euroes a month to travel to a different city entirely for study. I now understand why nobody uses that shit in the US.
Its so frustrating that the honest people have to pay for those that are skipping fares. And I don't even ride the MTA anymore, not by choice at least.
Yup, I watch so many people, grown-ups, just walk on the bus without saying a word & I wonder why I even bother paying 😮💨
Lived in NY from late 80s to late 90s. Each time I go back, I can't understand how I stuck it out in that cesspool for 11 years, and how 8+ million still put themselves through self-imposed torture. Unless you're making millions and have a chauffeur driven car, why put up with this hell?
The solution is clear and simple. Turn the subway into a pedestrian and bicycle passage. No more fares! No more confusion!
For some reason, carbrains would rather drive in those tunnels and call it innovative and futuristic.
This commentaries are excellent and apply to many transit districts not just NYC. Please keep doing more of these
Funny that i noticed in the past few months that there have been a significantly increased amount cops stationed at each subway in name of passenger safety.
On the platform, not by the turnstiles. And in many occasions I've seen police let ppl thru, even holding the doors open for fare beaters. Or witness and jumper and returning to their phone.
If you listen real close you can hear the state of NY imploding.
Keep in mind that also the federal government was giving enormous pandemic financial relief for transit systems since 2020. So this was a problem that could have been addressed earlier, but governments are the worst.
Also, their operating costs and service loads would be atypically low. What better time to do maintenance?
I live in a southern California city. Whenever I compare public transit with driving for everyday use I wonder why I would ever want to take it. I can take an hour and 20 minute bus ride, or hop in my car drive for 15-20 minutes then have the convenience of leaving whenever I want. The only time I take the trolley is for a baseball game because downtown parking sucks. Paying $50 for parking is way too much. Taking the commuter train is for weekend novelty or when I have to go to jury duty downtown.
Yes, penalizing the paying passengers to recoup costs.
Wow
Welcome to corrupt government
Boston’s MBTA is both cheaper, cleaner, and more efficient than NY subway system at the fraction of NYC spending budget.
Sure, their system isn’t as complex, but considering matched scalability factor, their system is still far cheaper by comparison. If you statistically increase the MBTA to match the infrastructure of NYC MTA, you’re looking at about $10 billion (from their $2.9 billion) and it’s still less than half of what MTA spends their infrastructure on.
Layoff all the BS ticket collectors on the LIRR and Metro North reduce it to one person to help handicap people get on and off safely per train. Someone doesn't need to make $40/hr to collect a ticket which an automated turnstile could.
-- It's fairly "automated" already. Actually, a reasonable case can be made to make transit FREE in the 5 counties of NYC. Think of it as horizontal elevators.
Most of unions workers underground playing cards are never show up
Have you seen the British public transit? Ever since it was broken up and managed by multiple companies, trying to get from point A and point B has been a nightmare of figuring out schedules and fares.
As somenone born and raised in the UK you are absolutely correct that public transport can work sure there might be a 5-10min delay now and then and a train or bus may be cancelled occasionally but there is not too long a wait for the next one and they have pretty consistant timetables.
The NYC mayor today said we have 70k illegal migrants in nyc and 42k are still in nyc's care, NYC has already spent 1 Billion on the migrant crisis, and expects to spend 4 Billion more. Earlier this week he and Hochul said they want to hire thousands of asylum seekers, even if they arent approved. And over 50 percent of the hotels in nyc are housing migrants at taxpayers expensive. Louis is gonna end up making why pay taxes in NYC video the way things are going
My personal suggestion is to stop paying taxes legally by not living or doing business in a place run by these people.
Punish the honest and innocent. How does this make sense?
Just like with media piracy. The people who don't pay get the better service and they're surprised that fewer people pay.
I literally just sat down for my lunch homeboy. you could not have timed this one better
enjoy your meal
Lunch? Where are you? It's still early.
@@geigertec5921 England 😎👍
@@croncorcen thanks bud 😎👍
@@HPsawus Figured it was time for TEA.....
Totally agree. The transit in my city is also terrible. A 20 minute drive can take an hour and a half. I could make the trip faster by bike. Haven't used the transit more than twice in over a decade because I had to go to a doctor's appointment that I wasn't allowed to drive home from (so there and back). They've just recently raised the fare to $3.50 CAD...
1:03 the network of underground tunnels were built and ran by private companies before it was bought by the government
U r my go to person on what’s going on on NYC..Left in ‘94…soooo glad I did
The people who make the laws for these systems never use the systems they govern.
They don't even need to jump over or crawl under the turnstyles. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN OTHER PEOPLE DO, if you pull back on the top turnstyle arm slightly, there's usually more than enough space to squeeze between the other two arms.
Like the slum lord who keeps raising rent. 🤡🌎
Seattle's homeless problem is very much like the NYC subway problem keeps throwing alot more money at it and the problem only gets worse. I make 90k a year and I own a condo on the outskirts of the Seattle but commute has gotten so bad because the city won't widen freeways or expand the light rail system that I've decided to live in a Van 3 or 4 days a week and come back to my condo on the weekend. I'm not exactly homeless but I'll be taking up space on residential streets because I can't find affordable housing within 1 hours commute of my job. I've already bought the Van and I am in the process of converting it into a room on wheels. I won't be one of those dirty homeless people I have access to a gym shower and can dump my trash at the condo on the weekend. I'm also getting pretty tired of paying the King County property tax and will sell my condo as soon as I have enough equity for a downpayment on a pretty little house in the country and then the city will get $0 tax dollars from me, How does that sound?
Let’s not forget: nyc’s new DA Alvin Bragg specifically said he would not prosecute certain crimes, specifically turnstile jumping .
Per usual : this ties back to how people vote.
Hmm, they told people they wouldn't stop them from jumping turnstiles, more people jumped the turnstiles, and their response is to raise the price? This is some Nintendo tier logic.
"why don't you want 15 minute cities? Just use public transport"
Because I have no confidence they'll do any better than this.
Thing is, transit cops are very nearly invisible, or so busy staring down at their iPhones they can't be bothered with anything they're employed to do.
They are probably instructed not to make arrests. There's no point if the only results are DAs dropping charges and idiots organizing protests.
Because they aren't given any authority. If they do anything there's a protest and the city's leadership will stab them in the back immediately, they'll probably get prosecuted. So they put their heads down and do nothing, just like most of the people living there. NYC is like Harvey Weinstein; gross, disgusting, uncomfortable, sometimes dangerous, but no one wants to say anything because they're making so much money.
It's NYC. They'll get fired and thrown under the bus if they actually do their jobs. Unless of course that job is apprehending someone who defended themselves or fleecing the law abiding public for ticket money.
Our subway is $0.25 per ride, is clean, has free wifi and 4g working everywhere, and has rarely any issue. One of our stations is in the list of most beautiful in the world and another one is the deepest in the world. It's Ukraine
I’m thinking of getting a cat. Like for yes, comment for no.
I'll do you one better. Look at the new video thumbnail
@@rossmanngroup I just see your face but I’m sure it’ll change at some point and I’ll get it .. thanks for the reply and thank you for the inspiration (life and also cat)
@Louis Rossmann lol I get the point.. adopt a cat it is .. thank you good sir
They don't go very well on toast though
From a shelter please.
Just by comparison, the Tokyo Subway system is spotless, safe and always on time. And the cost is $1.50 to $2.00 depending on how far you go. And many of the stations are distinctive and pretty.
NYC has zero excuse for this, and they need to get their act together.
Do you know what New York/America has that Japan doesn't? Our transit stations were clean and tidy 100 years ago.
@@TheSlothFather Not sure if I agree. Parts of the Tokyo Subway were built a hundred years ago in the Meiji era. They were clean and worked then and they're clean and work now. If course, many parts of the system were damaged in the 1923 Earthquake and in the War, but that's all been seamlessly and perfectly fixed long ago. In fact, the Tokyo subway has extensive preparations for earthquakes and floods, that far exceed anything in NYC.
Also, the trains run very often, so it's not as crowded as you think.
@@geoffk777 We do agree, you just misunderstood what I typed, because there's something about Japan that's exactly the same as it was in 1923 that cannot be said at all for the US. Certain demographics just aren't compatible with a civilized society.
@@TheSlothFather Oh, Ok then :) By the way, the Tokyo system is huge so it's easily as big as the NYC system.
Japan doesn't have policies that cater to and grow a class of bums and losers
London is heading the same way as New York
That's the UK for you.....always copying America regardless of whether it's good or bad.
Sounds like we are getting congestion pricing everywhere 😂 minute you step into a vehicle.
Wasn’t NYC’s subway supposed to be completely replaced by now?
Where did you read that?
As a native nyer that will never happen.
Other CITIES also have public transport. Boston's subway is way better. Not perfect but much cleaner and safer.
I’d sincerely like to learn about the experiences of these foreign companies that tried to help the transit situation and gave up.
You are an everyday hero Louis!
I work in the rail sector, the one thing you overlook is how much it costs to not just maintain the system, but to upgrade when it's absolutely necessary. Engines/cars are in that category, but a lot of times the authority wants the capability to run more trains through particular areas, and replacing existing signaling systems is a MASSIVE undertaking. NYCT has the craziest standards in the country, and trying to install these systems are especially insane in NYC when most of the time you only have a few hours overnight to do anything (since trains can't stop running during normal times). This isn't even factoring in how most stations look like shit and desperately need renovation that they refuse to fund. People who fare skip is a problem, their bigger problem is less and less overall ridership (since people are working from home or just leaving NYC altogether), so the people who are paying everyday are dealt the shit hand (as usual). The MTA is ridiculously fucked up, and it's not going to change, regardless of what happens.
I guarantee you, the costs would be more than paid with the existing budget if you removed all the graft, fraud, and other corruption draining it from actually getting things done. He's not overlooking that you actually need money to fix things. He just knows that none of that extra money is actually going to be used that way. Pouring more water into a bucket with the bottom ripped out still isn't going to fill it.
Forget upgrading. MAINTAIN, first of all. Fix, or replace. Don't let addicts and thugs in there. Why is it that I, in Russia, where I'm pretty sure half the population in Moscow has a free public transport pass has clean Metro, as well as it being DEVELOPED in these years? We got two circles recently. No smell, a bit loud, but clean.
Funny you spoke about how the train is always late. I live in the Caribbean and for many years our relatives in NYC boast about how efficient the transportation system is in NYC - not that I ever believed them - so hearing this from you is exactly what I suspected.
Is it possible that people who are employed by the transportation system have their own transport businesses and are in fact competing with their employer? Do they have their own Uber or taxi service and could care less about how efficient the service is?
Usually, public service or government accounting doesn't account for depreciation as part of expenses to secure an allotment every financial period to go towards repayment for assets. It just accounts for absolute cost. So they use whatever is left over to replace assets and maintain infrastructure or rely on budget meetings to decide how they are going to pay for it.
As someone whoe's never been in a subway, I find this all quite amusing.
I don’t miss spending half a day to run a simple errand bc of waiting on public transportation. In the time I used to spend commuting to work on the MTA, I can drive to another city in CO.
I’d love to see a CCTV surveillance view of the turnstiles and people jumping in dress suits mimicking the migration of wildebeest jumping into and then climbing out of the river.
They can't see because they don't work, Sunset Park shooting cameras didn't work 4 days before. www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/subway-cameras-stopped-working-4-days-before-sunset-park-shooting-report-says/
I used to regularly try and calculate which would be faster, walking vs attempting to wait for the next train from wherever I was.
I remember when it was $1.75. Almost $3? Kiss my ass
Wait... your telling me that they couldn't make this system work for $500 a month per person?
What the heck lmao
The MTA steals the money and fucks it up. That's what they've always done
@rossmanngroup yeah.. thinking about it.. there would have to be some massive embezzling going on over there. I whole heartedly agree the people running it need to be ran out of town 😆 🤣 😂 😹
I would love to stay here since it's my home & there's no place like it (cliché lol), but it's heartbreaking that this city has done nothing but shut out my family and I. From the MTA being incompetent in every aspect to government office making you do all the work to fill out paperwork, only turn around & blame you for their f ups, almost ALMOST ruining your life (yes something similar to Louis's saga has happened to many of us). On top of all of that, "politics" has torn apart the ancient art of conversation, leading to so much hatred running rampant throughout the city that was already the "rudest" (yes I know new yorkers are rude to an extent but that's not always the case). There's a giant wall nyc is heading towards at full speed & these tone deaf changes only picks up the pace each time. All while this is going on, the rich at the tippy top get richer, & everyone at the bottom points at each other to blame.
It's getting much more difficult to stay here when I love the place but the people.........🙃
Good luck. I left two years ago and I'm happy I did. I don't know how I would've handled the inflation.
@sblijheid7420 yeah lots of people suggest to leave but I don't have the funds to relocate, just like that 🙄 plus I have family here & they're my support system, so it would be dumb of me to move somewhere on my own
public school education on display
Can we have you as president for a couple of terms? Even though your videos are generally targeted towards New York, you’re giving people the breakdown on how to identify and point out flaws in their own communities. Thank you.
I am a foreigner, but What the hell is going on here? 500 USD for a monthly pass? 3 hour commute with «trouble» to travel
Residents are getting hosed, but they’re Even hosing themselves by not mowing elsewhere if this has been going on for so long. Wtf
They could just build a wall with a rotating door that locks if you don't pay. Unless there's some kind of safety issue why they have a turnstile that's jumpable
Station fires. People need to be able to leave en masse if there's a fire in the station or downwind in one of the tunnels.
I have a coworker who takes mass transit in New York. He takes two hours a day one way.
I remember back in like 2017 when they raised the fare from $2.25 to $2.75. Didn't change shit.
It was raised to 2.75 in 2015.
ONE SPEACH FROM LOUIS and the whole subway system has people all jumping the turn styles......whole city in pandemonium.
I've taken public transport for 15 years in the UK and it's massively awful here too. Train tickets one-way are double the price it would cost to drive a car on a return journey. They're considering getting rid of customers WiFi services on trains to cut costs! Madness and garbage. Such a shame
dont live in a city, own a car, enjoy freedom
They should just install cellular repeaters, its a one time cost plus maintenance instead of needing to pay for internet for those people to use the wifi. Cellular repeaters would give people the ability to use their cell plans, free wifi seems like a luxury
@@sugarbooty I would be up for this
@@sugarbooty they do do this on the underground. The problem in the UK is that trains aren't as profitable as they need to be. People don't use them enough, prices go up so people use them less etc
I remember the good old days on London Underground before every cnt was on their fucking phone, because they didn't work in tunnels. They couldn't wait to get out into the open section so they could be constantly yapping loudly and god-damn loud ringtones to make sure everyone else on the train could hear them. Now it's everywhere.
Don't pay.
The beggining of the death spiral is increasing the costs on a smaller base population, instead of slashing costs to keep the burden lower.
But NY does not see citizens as customers to serve, but a resource to be squeezed.
I didn't even see the cat until 7 and a half minutes into the video.
Why does the US hate public transit so damn much? Jfc, it keeps getting worse.
Because some people were conditioned to hate things that are considered for poor/not wealthy people or something of the sort. Truthfully there are no easy answers.
It’s not about hate, it’s just not feasible or reliable and some just refuse. I lived in LA, buses were always late, locals would rather drive, while complaining about traffic. LA is expanding its subway but I wonder if anyone will use it besides the homeless?
@@alicelong3613 See the trick is you need to just spend money on making it better and get good management without caring about profitability. That's what successful public transit operators do. American cities either have their transit institutions become corrupt money pits or just refuse to spend on fixing things
That is insane. I went to high school in Louisville,Kentucky in the late 60s. I could walk to school and arrive 40 minutes sooner than,riding a overcrowded school bus.Some things never get better,they just get worse.
Louisville now has kids on buses for 2+ hours...
@@mattatat1138 The bus I rode in,had us packed like sardines.The isle was full,all the way to the front door.If there had been a accident, it would be a bloody mess
I commend you for leaving that place. At this point just consider NYC dead too you. NYC is still living in your head rent free.
They'll just use the extra money to build turnstiles that you can jump.