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Hey, haven't started using any of this? So will have to go over this again with you till I have grasped the concept of using them. Thanks Nathan, really good as always.
Hey man this is an excellent channel! I need to watch all your other vids because you give super helpful tips and tricks for logic! Thanks for making useful content!
Folder stacks are more than organisation.. they are essentially a VCA.. theyre useful for controlling volume without worrying about anything clipping out of it and/or being limited by the output
I use folder stacks and color coding everyday, but the summing track was a new thing for me. Thank you for such an informative video. much love from India.
Hey man, have you got a video on midi assigning ? And utilising a controller ? If not could you help me out with assigning multiple presets for my fader knobs if it’s possible
I have a problem with this and maybe you should check that out: I use summing stacks to rout my instrument tracks. Because of my current memory constrains, I developed the habit of having deactivated (instrument) tracks within my template. My goal is to only activate tracks on the go while composing. This way I can save RAM and processing. However, when I click on the summing stack, all the subordinate tracks in that stack will activate! That means If I have an entire string section with different articulations, this will actually bust my ram and my computer will pass out. This occurs even when I go to Project preferences and check “Only activate plugins needed for the project”.
Hey Nathan, I've tried to put 2 tracks in a summing stack to save some space and aloud that my pc works faster by putting the plugins directly in the sum. stack but when I do this both of the tracks stop panning and plays normal, could you help me?
Hey great tutorial! I’m having the exact same problem when I put my tracks into a summing folder. They are set to hard pan but on play back they’re coming out centred…
when you say you create a new mixing session, could you please ellaborate what this entails, do i just export all regions as audio files and re open them in new project?
Great video! Very helpful dude! I was wondering if you could help me solve something? Every time I make a summing stack for tracks, panning within the tracks in the stack don’t respond. Everything wants to stay up the middle. Is there a setting that needs to be changed? It’s driving me nuts! Haha. Thank you!
Hey, great vid. I'd like to hear more about how you export your midi-heavy sessions out to audio track for mixing. I'm working on a full orchestra session and will be ready to mix shortly. BTW: I'm using the Spitfire BBC Orchestral I first saw here! Sounds like a real orchestra - I love it.
Yeah man - so you'd basically export everything to a separate folder and open a blank session and pull everything into that session as audio only. So File > Export > exports all tracks as audio I believe
@@NathanJamesLarsen Thanks... I'll give it a try. My mix so far is very light on plugins, but the track count is up there as BBC (free version) doesn't have keyboard based articulations... lol. Mixing classical music is gonna be a trip compared to pop/rock mixes - heavy on dynamic and very light on compression.
what midi controller you recommend for logic loops cells, to trig live performance, I am digging akai apc mini for triggering scenes and loops and akai midimix to turn on off either vst adjust parameters with knobs and even used for stacks
Hey man, I saved summing stacks in my template, but when I record a new audio file within the track stack, the audio doesn’t show up in the track stack, it only shows up under the audio file I recorded to under the track stack. Hope I wrote this out properly. Is there something I’m missing as to why it’s not showing up on the stack? Thank you!
Hey Nathan, any chance you could do a vid taking about moving from production to mixing sessions? Or if he already has, could someone hook me up? Thanks!
First off thanks for the video. 2ndly. I have a question. I created a summing stack to control 3 different audio sources but every time I try to turn the summing stack volume down I can still hear the instrument. There’s no reverb or anything on it. It’s dry EXCEPT for the fact it came from omnisphere. Tried burning it into the track and everything and it’s still not quieting unless I click the individual track. Any solutions to this? Thanks again. Oh and it works on a different 3 instruments in the same session so I know it’s not a session thing.
I created a summing stack for Orchestral section articulations and I can't change the individual volume of each midi channel. Is it possible? I need to be able to change the volume of individual articulations in a multi-timbral software instrument.
Do you turn off all the Audio FX and plugins before you bounce each track to audio and move from the production project to the mixing project? If so, does that include DI guitar and bass tracks as well?
how do you delete the channel strip created from a track slack? I created a bunch of folder stacks but I meant to use summing stacks and now I have a bunch of channel strips from the mixer that I don't want after flattening the stack. Any help is appreciated!
I use track stacks for summing. I don’t remember ever using the folder option although it does make a lot of sense when you explain it in the way that you did. Quick question: If you put say all your drum tracks in a folder stack and export as individual files, will they save them all automatically in an individual folder?
There's nothing inherently wrong with saying "color-coat" and, to a degree, it actually works just as well as a descriptive term, but I believe the traditional term is actually "color code". Cheers.
Hey Nathan.. Greetings from India.. Been following your channel lately and I must tell you it's been super awesome.. Just have a quick doubt. When we have these stack folders when we render them to STEMS for mixing how do you do it? Can you please do a video on how to prep the project to send for mixing. ( how would you render stack folders)
Not sure what Paul is referring to, since I respond to almost every comment. Also I don't have a patreon, but ok. I actually find his comment quite hilarious and seriously uniformed. When it comes to exporting, if you export all tracks, it will also export the track stacks and the rest of the individual tracks too. So you should actually select the tracks you want to export and then you can export only the selected tracks. It's under File > Export > export selected tracks - I can make a video on it down the road that'll explain that better.
@@NathanJamesLarsen Thank you so much for the quick response :) Selecting the tracks and exporting does make a lot of sense, however, all the processing on the bus would be gone right? Anyways won't bother you much here if you making a video on it :)
@@GirishHothur It depends on how you go about settings - you can bypass all effects or not bypass them by unselecting "bypass all effects" -- another way of doing this is by what's called "printing" a track by bouncing the audio down to its own new audio file within Logic with the plugins that you want still on. So basically that audio will have the plugins just baked in at that point. That's what I do so there is not confusion. No worries, Girish, I don't mind questions at all.
Great video bro thanks! Question - how do you actually bounce out the track stack with any additional buses/fx or automation that are on the main track stack bus?? When I bounce out I get the track stack as one audio file but with none of the bus fx or auotmations that are on the main track stack bus..
hi, I have a question that I hope you can clear up. Can you do individual sends from within a track stack? For example when mixing strings, I was individual sends for the reverb on each track, so I can have less reverb on the shorts and more on the longs etc. I want to be able to do this, but have them within a summing stack so I can mix them together. Currently when I do this the sends do not work at all, and individual reverb sends only work within a folder stack - but then I can't edit them together afterwards! Is this possible to make aux sends on the individual tracks and still group them as a summing track stack? I can't work out how! Thanks in advance
It depends on how you do it but if you want someone else to mix you probably don't want to be using sends unless you are using a summing track stack - which then will create a whole separate track for your bus that it'll bounce out. That's the best way I'd recommend
@@NathanJamesLarsen Ok that’s good to know. I’m kinda between in the mixing process...I need a co-producer to technical clean my pre-mix. I usually work with normal bus/sends etc but this is very confusing fast...so the summing track stack Methode with the produced waves files sounds very dope! To I understood it right? Thx 🙏
You should be able to solo a track individually. It shouldn't solo the whole summing tracking if you go into the individual instrument. Otherwise there might be a setting you need to change I suppose
@@TroyGrady57 Try it on a very big session. Track stack summing vs Track Stack folder + classic buss. you will see that Multithreading is spread more efficiently on the classic
please put a shit load of tracks up to start with and then make it as confusing as possible. Thank you. This isn't from M its from his recording teacher who needs to know about stacks.
Is too much mister. U fly from 1 point ro another as if u r lost. Just keep it simple by starting simple and have a structure in basic explanation. Like u started making a folder on tracks that already foldered. I stopped watching
Shameless plug for Nathan's course: I've been a musician for 20+ years and Nathan is an absolutely incredible teacher. His Producer Accelerator course is a must buy for anyone looking to fastback their learning process. ***Note: I'm not making a cut from this shout out, I'm just a very satisfied student.**
It is so amazing what great content there is, just freely available on TH-cam. Thank you so much for your work and keep doing your thing. God bless you!
Loving your videos Nathan. Clear, concise and well presented. And the main thing... You hold interest to watch them through to the end...
Hey, haven't started using any of this? So will have to go over this again with you till I have grasped the concept of using them. Thanks Nathan, really good as always.
I use trackstacks, but not folders. Now I know the purpose of folders, so now I'm going tot use them. 👍
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Hey man this is an excellent channel! I need to watch all your other vids because you give super helpful tips and tricks for logic! Thanks for making useful content!
Love this comment thank you!!
Track stacks sound interesting way to organize the stacks. Something I want explore doing. Thank you for sharing the video. Happy New Year, 2021.🎉🌟😊
This is an incredible guide. I enjoyed watching all and liked.
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Dude thank you!! Very helpful!
Would love to hear your thoughts! Are you using track stacks or is this new?
I used to work in protools and switched over to logic because of track stacks
Thanks so much for this! Found these on the Billie Eilish session that's on Logic Pro and it just so neat!
Great vid again. Never used the track stacks but I'll give it a go. Thanks.
Sweet! Yeah give it a shot!
I definitely stack my tracks. For example, if I’m using multiple violins or strings.
How the hell did I miss this upload.
Great job as always mate. Thanks legend
Haha thanks a bunch! Appreciate it! 😎🙏
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Love that! Thanks!
Folder stacks are more than organisation.. they are essentially a VCA.. theyre useful for controlling volume without worrying about anything clipping out of it and/or being limited by the output
Yes - that's true. I mention that you can adjust volume on folder stacks, but what you're saying is a great clarification. Thanks!
Liked a subscribed. Great video!
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thank's for sharing!!
I use folder stacks and color coding everyday, but the summing track was a new thing for me.
Thank you for such an informative video.
much love from India.
Awesome! Try it out!
You're amazing thank you.
cheers man!
You're dope bro. Salute. Appreciate the guide.
Absolutely and thank YOU!
Hey man, have you got a video on midi assigning ? And utilising a controller ? If not could you help me out with assigning multiple presets for my fader knobs if it’s possible
Another great video my friend. Is it normal to have that many tracks in a session? Is there a video where you explain why you have so many?
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I have a problem with this and maybe you should check that out: I use summing stacks to rout my instrument tracks. Because of my current memory constrains, I developed the habit of having deactivated (instrument) tracks within my template.
My goal is to only activate tracks on the go while composing. This way I can save RAM and processing. However, when I click on the summing stack, all the subordinate tracks in that stack will activate! That means If I have an entire string section with different articulations, this will actually bust my ram and my computer will pass out.
This occurs even when I go to Project preferences and check “Only activate plugins needed for the project”.
That's really interesting and also really strange... hmm
Nice video, did you notice your audio was clipping?
Hey Nathan, I've tried to put 2 tracks in a summing stack to save some space and aloud that my pc works faster by putting the plugins directly in the sum. stack but when I do this both of the tracks stop panning and plays normal, could you help me?
Hey great tutorial! I’m having the exact same problem when I put my tracks into a summing folder. They are set to hard pan but on play back they’re coming out centred…
when you say you create a new mixing session, could you please ellaborate what this entails, do i just export all regions as audio files and re open them in new project?
lmfao i've been using logic for like 15 years. tell me why TODAY is the day i learned about latch mode
Hi Nathan, everything in my stack seems to be mono despite the pan knobs being moved around. How can I pan things that are inside a stack?
Use dual-mono, that fixes it for me
@@enzojacobsen4349 I’m having the same issue, what do you mean by dual mono?
@@tigersteffi 2 mono tracks. Also I was incorrect. The issue may be the fact that the plugin might not run stereo?
Great video! Very helpful dude!
I was wondering if you could help me solve something? Every time I make a summing stack for tracks, panning within the tracks in the stack don’t respond. Everything wants to stay up the middle. Is there a setting that needs to be changed? It’s driving me nuts! Haha. Thank you!
Hey, great vid. I'd like to hear more about how you export your midi-heavy sessions out to audio track for mixing. I'm working on a full orchestra session and will be ready to mix shortly. BTW: I'm using the Spitfire BBC Orchestral I first saw here! Sounds like a real orchestra - I love it.
Yeah man - so you'd basically export everything to a separate folder and open a blank session and pull everything into that session as audio only. So File > Export > exports all tracks as audio I believe
@@NathanJamesLarsen Thanks... I'll give it a try. My mix so far is very light on plugins, but the track count is up there as BBC (free version) doesn't have keyboard based articulations... lol. Mixing classical music is gonna be a trip compared to pop/rock mixes - heavy on dynamic and very light on compression.
thx !
what midi controller you recommend for logic loops cells, to trig live performance, I am digging akai apc mini for triggering scenes and loops and akai midimix to turn on off either vst adjust parameters with knobs and even used for stacks
Hey man, I saved summing stacks in my template, but when I record a new audio file within the track stack, the audio doesn’t show up in the track stack, it only shows up under the audio file I recorded to under the track stack. Hope I wrote this out properly. Is there something I’m missing as to why it’s not showing up on the stack? Thank you!
Hey Nathan, any chance you could do a vid taking about moving from production to mixing sessions? Or if he already has, could someone hook me up?
Thanks!
How to use two tiers of summing stacks?🤔🤔
First off thanks for the video. 2ndly. I have a question. I created a summing stack to control 3 different audio sources but every time I try to turn the summing stack volume down I can still hear the instrument. There’s no reverb or anything on it. It’s dry EXCEPT for the fact it came from omnisphere. Tried burning it into the track and everything and it’s still not quieting unless I click the individual track. Any solutions to this? Thanks again. Oh and it works on a different 3 instruments in the same session so I know it’s not a session thing.
I created a summing stack for Orchestral section articulations and I can't change the individual volume of each midi channel. Is it possible? I need to be able to change the volume of individual articulations in a multi-timbral software instrument.
Do you turn off all the Audio FX and plugins before you bounce each track to audio and move from the production project to the mixing project? If so, does that include DI guitar and bass tracks as well?
I'd love to know this, too!
how do you delete the channel strip created from a track slack? I created a bunch of folder stacks but I meant to use summing stacks and now I have a bunch of channel strips from the mixer that I don't want after flattening the stack. Any help is appreciated!
Hey Nathan great video. Q: does using the Summing folders save CPU? as opposed to mixing in the mix window??
how do summing in summing?
I use track stacks for summing.
I don’t remember ever using the folder option although it does make a lot of sense when you explain it in the way that you did.
Quick question:
If you put say all your drum tracks in a folder stack and export as individual files, will they save them all automatically in an individual folder?
Hi sir iam David from India
There's nothing inherently wrong with saying "color-coat" and, to a degree, it actually works just as well as a descriptive term, but I believe the traditional term is actually "color code". Cheers.
Yep just an easier way to to add busses and fx to several tracks at once instead of individually. Way faster workflow here.
Hey Nathan.. Greetings from India.. Been following your channel lately and I must tell you it's been super awesome.. Just have a quick doubt. When we have these stack folders when we render them to STEMS for mixing how do you do it? Can you please do a video on how to prep the project to send for mixing. ( how would you render stack folders)
Not sure what Paul is referring to, since I respond to almost every comment. Also I don't have a patreon, but ok. I actually find his comment quite hilarious and seriously uniformed.
When it comes to exporting, if you export all tracks, it will also export the track stacks and the rest of the individual tracks too. So you should actually select the tracks you want to export and then you can export only the selected tracks. It's under File > Export > export selected tracks - I can make a video on it down the road that'll explain that better.
@@NathanJamesLarsen Thank you so much for the quick response :) Selecting the tracks and exporting does make a lot of sense, however, all the processing on the bus would be gone right? Anyways won't bother you much here if you making a video on it :)
@@GirishHothur It depends on how you go about settings - you can bypass all effects or not bypass them by unselecting "bypass all effects" -- another way of doing this is by what's called "printing" a track by bouncing the audio down to its own new audio file within Logic with the plugins that you want still on. So basically that audio will have the plugins just baked in at that point. That's what I do so there is not confusion. No worries, Girish, I don't mind questions at all.
Great video bro thanks! Question - how do you actually bounce out the track stack with any additional buses/fx or automation that are on the main track stack bus?? When I bounce out I get the track stack as one audio file but with none of the bus fx or auotmations that are on the main track stack bus..
Hey! You'd need to bounce both or solo the instrument and bounce it instead of exporting if you still want to retain the fx
@@NathanJamesLarsen Thanks will give this a try! :)
I know how to save my Track Stack, but I'm looking the answer How to LOAD this track stack to another session?
hi, I have a question that I hope you can clear up. Can you do individual sends from within a track stack? For example when mixing strings, I was individual sends for the reverb on each track, so I can have less reverb on the shorts and more on the longs etc. I want to be able to do this, but have them within a summing stack so I can mix them together. Currently when I do this the sends do not work at all, and individual reverb sends only work within a folder stack - but then I can't edit them together afterwards! Is this possible to make aux sends on the individual tracks and still group them as a summing track stack? I can't work out how! Thanks in advance
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How do you select more than one track
Hold shift while selecting the 2nd track
This track stack messes up my mix for some reason the pan dosent work n they came out mono and no the imput n output were stereo 😢
Is this working when I want to send my mix later to a co-producer?
It depends on how you do it but if you want someone else to mix you probably don't want to be using sends unless you are using a summing track stack - which then will create a whole separate track for your bus that it'll bounce out. That's the best way I'd recommend
@@NathanJamesLarsen Ok that’s good to know. I’m kinda between in the mixing process...I need a co-producer to technical clean my pre-mix. I usually work with normal bus/sends etc but this is very confusing fast...so the summing track stack Methode with the produced waves files sounds very dope!
To I understood it right?
Thx 🙏
Yep exactly! It'll separate dry tracks and the buses on their own
@@NathanJamesLarsen great! Thanks ✌️
What's up guys. musical sean evans here...
My only comment on your tutorials, is you need to slow down a bit for us newbies. :)
Hi how can I solo the track in summing..? If I try to solo the track the total tracks are getting solo..
You should be able to solo a track individually. It shouldn't solo the whole summing tracking if you go into the individual instrument. Otherwise there might be a setting you need to change I suppose
@@NathanJamesLarsen ok bro thankyou.
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Track stacks(summing) are poorly optimized. This feature is one of the most power-consuming in logic pro
@@TroyGrady57 Try it on a very big session. Track stack summing vs Track Stack folder + classic buss. you will see that Multithreading is spread more efficiently on the classic
please put a shit load of tracks up to start with and then make it as confusing as possible. Thank you. This isn't from M its from his recording teacher who needs to know about stacks.
Is too much mister. U fly from 1 point ro another as if u r lost. Just keep it simple by starting simple and have a structure in basic explanation. Like u started making a folder on tracks that already foldered. I stopped watching