First viewing and listening to Pisces by Jinjer. Song used: • JINJER - Pisces (Live ... Follow me on Instagram: / musicteacherreacts #Jinjer #Pisces #Reaction
@@TheMuserResolute No, I could see the anticipation of a musical change. You knew something was going to ramp up soon, same as I did when I first heard this. I could see you feeling it coming, and it was pretty clear that you wanted to talk about the first section before you got into the more aggressive chorus...you just hit it perfectly to remain unaware just how aggressive it actually is.
Yeah,, he looked really traumatised. Everybody is shocked when they hear her growling. With me it was the opposite. I was relieved. I just thought "Nice, women who I've never met can have such extreme mood swings too. It's not just me, even if that's what I have been told." Yeah; I am having a beer on that.
The band is over 10 years old. They had several changes among the musicians, especially for the drummers. The vocalist is Tatiana, bassist is Eugene, guitarist is Roman and drummer is Vlad. They've grown big since this song "Pisces". Vlad is remarkable for playing open-handed and usually on small kits but with a huge sound, he is a fine technician on his instrument, plays a lot of ghost notes, but also plays the guitar and the piano. Eugene is remarkable for pushing bass forward, tapping and sliding, and being very technical too on his instrument (mainly a five-string bass). Roman is not often mentionned, and that is a shame, because he does not have the typical profile of a metal-guitarist. You'll scarcely hear soli or choruses, but the work he does, melodically and rhythmically is absolutely mindblowing. And well Tatiana is close to be a legend, probably the best current metal vocalist: her cleans are impeccable, her growls can be very deep and powerful. She also masters the stage (you'll see if you check "Perennial" live as suggested below) and her lyrics are more than worth reading. Let us not forget how beautiful most of her vocal proposals are on the melodies the boys compose. This band is unique, their influences are numerous, ranging from progressive rock to reggae, blues, etc, which gives them a pretty unique sound. They are also very tight. At last, you noticed it, time changes are their signature. Enjoy your discovery of this amazing band, imho the best band of this decade. Cheers!
Nailed it! Stating "the best band of the decade" is always personal and I heard a lot for many bands, but never I have been so sure and confortable with it as I am with Jinjer. They really are! What a band!
The problem with people recommending this version is that it has post production, even if the session was recorded live, so lots of people end up assuming her pitch is modified somehow. She does it live effortless, tho, no electronic adjustment required. The scene with the pedal is the guitar turning on its distortion, not the mic, you can see there's nothing of the sort around her. There's doubling added in post, but it's a different recording of her own voice, and there some delay as well in some of the clean parts.
@@ScornNoob No, not exactly. I've seen them live more than once and she didn't sound so low. Furthermore I've never hear her sing the high cleans in the breakdown part. :/ There is for sure some subtle editing there. But she's still absolutely amazing. :) Listen to the Judgement (& Punishment) one-take, that's how she sounds - a lot more female. :)
It's like that on every video. Then again, it is the transition that everyone pauses on. It's the transition that's telling you "something else is coming".
YESSS!!! You're the first "reactor", who noticed the strange time signature on this song! Congratulation. it starts with 7/8 changes to 6/8 and then to 8/8 Great job and great reaction and analysis. Thank you. Greetings from Austria Wottles
Also he paid close attention to how awesome the drums are - IIRC the band itself said that this song became really good only when they got Vlad as a drummer.
Metal vocalist here! From what I can tell, Tatiana uses the same growling technique that I do. The vocal chords are actually relaxed and are not making noise, instead the false vocal folds are making the noise, and when done correctly doesn't hurt the voice at all and is quite sustainable. The sound of it is of course dependent upon individual physiology. Hope this helps explain things a little :)
I think the next one has to be "Jinjer - Perennial (live at Wacken Open Air 2019)", to see her doing all of this live without any studio effects and sounding almost the same.
Yea perennial live at wacken is the perfect "proof she really does it" second watch. A couple others that would be really good for you to see some of the directions that this band can go would be retrospection or judgment and Punishment. As you go along, you'll find out that this band put together is just as talented as she is. They've been around since 2009 and they are probably the fastest growing metal act today. Tatiana-vocals Roman-guitar Eugene-bass Vlad-drums
@@danielmrtns I like to catch perennial live at wacken for reaction videos. I usually start my day off by listening to pit of Consciousness and Ape 2-5 times apiece.
I've no idea why people keep recommending the live version. She's good live, but it becomes very apparent how much doubling up and reverb they use for the studio recordings to make her vocals sound more full, and her range live is never quite as good and her transitions aren't as smooth, and the growls are more flat.
@@MudHut67 I know what you are talking about and I agree in some level, but i think that the effects are necessary because its so difficult to have both growling and clean vocals in a high level. And I like this live version in special because it was their last set song and they performed like it was in the beginning or middle of the set showing so much energy, and not every band can do this.
Should definitely check out “Demolisher” by Slaughter To Prevail! Their vocalist, Alex Terrible, will leave you speechless on what’s possible with the human vocal chords
Demolisher was my "reintroduction" to them (heard Agony before, wasn't really into it at the time, but that's changed) and I haven't been the same since 🤣
This is all her. Across the board, they are amazing. Tatiana's vocals do have some effects here...but they're also pure. What's added is purely background. The tone, the transitions, the emphasis and the purity of her cleans AND growls is real. She demonstrates this on many songs and is as good (or better) live than in videos. ---------------- If I understood correctly from what I've seen/read, this was a "try out" for the drummer. Their previous drummer was let go and this was essentially a "try out". This guy is now (and has been for a while) their drummer due either in part or in full to his incredible performance here.
This wasn't a try out. Vlad had already been playing with them (since early to mid 2016) before they decided to rerecord this track with him. Dmitry Kim wasn't "let go", he left because the deal he had with Jinjer was to replace Mantulin until the band found a new drummer. : )
Well, now you know why this song was requested so much. It's one of their few songs with a long clean vocal section at the beginning and people recommend it for the 'gotcha' moment. Once you get past the initial shock of Tati's harsh vocals and dig into the music it's apparent just how good this band is as a whole. As good as this song is, I still feel it's at the lower end of what they are capable of. They also have a wide range of influences and like to incorporate other genres into their music. They had a second guitarist for their first two albums, but he left to pursue other interests. As far as their popularity in Ukraine, I'm sure they are now but I remember them talking in an interview about having to make the decision to leave and tour elsewhere to gain exposure so they actually gained more recognition outside of the country before they did there. Speaking of touring, they play a ton of shows and are excellent live. Last year they did over 150 concerts. There are other bands with female singers who can do harsh vocals, but Tati is probably my favorite for her overall ability as a vocalist and a performer on stage. Some others are Spiritbox, Infected Rain, Arch Enemy, and Otep.
Great reaction man! It's nice to see a music teacher not be too traditional and whose first thought isn't doubt, but awe. As a musician myself, when I first heard heard Tatiana scream I got the biggest smile plastered on my face and, honestly, I kinda fell in love. lol She's got some raw, and pretty rare talent. It kinda reinvigorated me as an artist. It's nice to have musicians who are fresh and push music in new directions. It's good for everybody. She's also helped bring this kind of music to a larger audience, which is really awesome. 🤘🏻
You're incredibly entertaining to watch as you've got a firm grasp of what's going on and you're able to break that down in easy to understood chunks. That and you're also very emotive with your body language which is always a blast to see. I'd suggest the band Spiritbox for something in a similar vein of having incredibly skilled musicians and an incredible vocalist. Rule of Nines or Blessed Be are two good introductions. There's also The Mara Effect, though that is essentially a 3-part song and the total length is over 20 minutes so might be a bit rough for a video.
You need some more Jinjer. Welcome to the Jinjer army. Here are a few suggestions: Perennial (live at waken open air 2019) Who is gonna be the one (official live video) Pit of counciousness (live in Kiev) On the top (live in Kiev) Judgment and punishment (live in Melbourne) That is her voice. On this live session some post production was added but that is her all the way. She is a vocal beast and you will see that if you watch the live songs in concert. Her name is Tatiana The rest of the band: Vladimir on drums, Roman on the guitar and Eugen on the bass. Hope to see you react to more Jinjer
This is a live session, all her, as they wanted to show off the new drummer, they added some stuff in post production from the album version. They are very open about it. The whole band are beasts, Tatiana has amazing vocal and amazing writing skills, considering english is not her first language. They write for the song overall, not for anyone to show off above the others. Yes, she can do it all live.
"vocal effects pedal"? I'm almost certain that's the guitar pedal, turning on the distortion for the chorus, but I could be wrong Also, the rhythmic patterns from the drummer you mentioned are called ghost notes :)
My ears say that the whole song was doubled?, so not truly “live”, but just a unique day’s rerecording. The distorted guitar sustains beyond the clean coming back in as well. But I don’t think the distorted vocals are any more processed than the clean, you’ll see in any of their other songs, distorted “Death voice” is her preferred mode of metal, the other tones used for contrast, the more contrast the more progressive. Just the first verse went from 7/8, to 6/8, to 4/4, they’re not much interested in simple...
@@svenfrancisco4930 It's been the main focus of many of the hater comments. I read through them all and am super thankful for the engagement and that people are watching my videos and getting that far in. Thanks for taking the time to comment
Tatianna, the vocalist, describes herself as a shy, introverted geek. What you see in this video, and especially at her concerts, is her stage presence. She built up her stage presence over time, and has said without it she could never step on a stage. While I know what most people say about her growl sound, one reacter had a unique, and cool, description by saying it suddenly sounded like a thousand soldiers were roaring, rather than the typical, “she sounds like an angel... oh my goodness! Where’d that demon come from??” Also, I heard one vocal coach say the muscles she uses to make the growl are the same muscles needed to sing opera. That is why/how she can switch between gentle and growl and back so effortlessly. One more thing, they hired Vlad three days before this live video was filmed.
I doubt the part about muscles =) To sing groul, scream etc. you need false cord (it's not create any pitch for ur sound, but correct use of it gives you vocal that scratchy sound, and the pitch you take sounds much lower.) in other case it will hurt you. Opera ignore this part of you vocal eqipment because it's doesn't need to them.
@@Pecos1 no, just learning how to sing including extreme. Still not successful though )) that opinion is not mine but the guy from Hellscream Academy channel. But it's russian language
@@DistalX I don't believe that vocal coach meant the exact same muscles. He did also mention the false chord, stating she worked both the false chord and her additional muscle work in tandem to create her growl. I call it a growl because it never feels like she is s reaming at me when I listen to it. Now in some of her other songs she does have a scream sound. Her "one-take of Judgement and Punishment" has a very obvious scream. But to say she is not using muscles to make her distinctive sound seems dismissive in my opinion. The way she switches so quickly and naturally requires a lot of work and practice, and she herself has said so (with the disclaimer to not attempt to mimic her sound), and requires both vocal work and muscle actions.
@@Pecos1 The point tis that you can mix your distortion with standard vocal in different proportion. The better you as a singer, the better your control over that mix. You can hear Chad Kroeger with just a little adding of distortion like 15%, someone like David Draiman with like 40%, and of course Tatiana with 75-80% of distortion, they all have a good contol and can choose, btw you can hear Tatiana's, let's call it 15%, in Piscies bridge. The diferences between growl and scream in a tone, the technique is same. You hear it in such a different way because we call growling a chest voice with distortion adding, and screaming is mix or head voice, like Chester Bennington. But the distortion sound without your vocal cord is just a mechanic scratchy sound without a pitch(note) not sure how to call it correct. Oh and about same muscle, I think you should know Davin Thousand. He is a great example of how close to opera voice will sound with growl.
Perfect reaction, I love watching people that know music listen to Jinjer. The syncopated polyrhythms, bass and drum fillers, and the time shifts are phenomenal. You could throw any member in a prog-Jazz band and none would losing a step. Tatiana Shmayluk is the vocalist, simply put, she’s at the top of the female extreme vocalist echelon. The only effects added to her vocals in this song are a compression (light), slight echo, and a very subtle chorus effect which are all fading in and out throughout the song. She doesn’t use (or need) a pitch shifter or added distortion. ALL OF the abrasive screams are all HER.
That pedal is the guitarist pedal. That's all her vocals 100% but this video has editing , I'm not an expert in that field so I don't know the details and terms except that the vocals are layered with hers but this whole band is unbelievably talented. The more you watch the more you will love this band because they don't have one bad song. Check out all their live videos you will see they sound just as good if not better. The band Jinjer was formed in 2009 but they originally had a male vocalists and another guitarist and a different drummer.
You are right. Her vocal is dubbed - meaning that there are two recordings on top of each other. Both are her - in the chorus there is a low growl and a higher pitched "screamer".
"That pedal is the guitarist pedal." Yes. How else can the Guitar go from clean to distorted? Either a channel switch or turned on an Overdrive/Distortion pedal. [Edit] Vocal dubbing and layering is a very common recording practice. Even still the take are live and real and need to fit and sit in the mix perfectly. That is still no electronic enhancements.
@@uppotukki Seems like you just typed that because it's some "buzz words" you've heard. Do you even know what a "Line 6 Helix" is? Sounds like not because that is a Guitar Multi-Effect processor.
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OMG I'm so excited to see you do more of Jinjer!!! As I'm sure many have commented. This song, as incredible as it is, doesn't showcase even half of their true talent. Welcome to the Jinjer rabbit hole :D
Thank you! Best reaction to Jinjer ever. The band is amazingly talented and I appreciate someone seeing beyond just the growl. I am a Yank living in Ukraine currrently and yes they are loved here. She personifies the heart of Ukranian women. Beautiful and strong.
Nightwish and now Jinjer.....great reaction. Yes that is Tatiana's voice! Try some of their live performances! Even though this is a live session there has been some post production done on the video...namely extra vocals by Tatiana on certain parts.
@@TheMuserResolute try Perennial Live at Wacken 2019) th-cam.com/video/bxi3i9wzQBk/w-d-xo.html or Judgement (& Punishment) Live in Melbourne 2020 th-cam.com/video/Yavcvr9VfqM/w-d-xo.html
"What did I just listen to?" .... Insane talent that has never been heard of before (for the most part) as far as I know... A *very* special and talented singer... that tonal shift when doing the demon/distorted vocals always makes me go "... whoah!... DAMN GIRL!" because I have *NEVER* heard of that before from *ANY* artist... Even though I don't really listen to metal/death metal/growl vocals, I do pay attention to what I do hear (do to my personal emphasis on lyrics and vocals in general), I can honestly say I have never heard such a clean and definite clear (large) pitch shift done in growl vocals (definitely not bu that amount/much or even that cleanly)... She is definitely something special, just a shame that I, personally, don't care for most metal music personally (it all bends together too much into a single noise for me personally, probably due to my personal hearing issues).... But I *definitely* recognize and deeply respect her talent.
@@jjj79394 ... In what universe would this be considered trash? It's one thing to not like a song/band because they don't fit your personal taste but that doesn't automatically make them "trash". if you think this song is trash then you have absolutely no idea what actual music trash (or skill) is. From an objective perspective (regardless of whether I like the song or not), they have skill and talent (instruments don't play themselves and singing isn't skilless), a solid melody, etc (I could go on, but I've already made the point that music is not a skill-less activity)... In other words, your opinion is mistaken at best and ignorantly shallow at worst, ngl... Doesn't even make sense, unless you happen to like "music" that has completely intelligible vocals and instruments played in a way that sound like 3 drunk cats fighting in a squealing washing machine being run over by a steamroller driven by a baby in the middle of a screaming tantrum... Just sayin.
@@jjj79394 That's called "growling" and is extremely common/frequent in heavy metal (especially death metal), however, unlike 98% of them, you can actually understand Tatiana and what's she is saying (the singer of this group). You did "ask" by posting an incredibly ignorant "opinion" to *my* comment which means that you were talking *to* me which in turn indicates you wanted a discussion. Unfortunately for you, I am uninterested in having an unenlightened discussion with someone who is so ignorant that can't don't know how to discern person opinion/tastes from objectivity who then acts like what they say still matters because they "didn't ask bruv" (speaking of, you forgot a comma as my name isn't "bruv", but whatever). All you've done is proven that when it comes to music, your opinion is irrelevant and worthless due to your lack of knowledge and respect towards the various branches of the craft. Peace out.
Check out the rest of Jinjer's recent work (and their old stuff, but i really think they hit full stride with their Macro album, which is their most recent), and some more reaction-bait songs with great vocals, Slaughter To Prevail - Demolisher, MTR's got a video for that one for sure, for ultimate female-heavy-HEAVY songs, maybe give Spiritbox - Holy Roller a shot (good song on it's own, but, music video really actually adds to it, atmospherically), Lamb of God - Memento Mori was a fun one (video also recommended), but, Holy Roller was a mindf*** because that's not their usual style, and in my mind, it's the heavy song of the year, arguably song of the year period. Sorry for the long ramble of sh!t, but, if you enjoyed Tatiana/Jinjer, I think you'll love those, all of them are actual musical talent, with a good singing/harmony and "I'm literally a demon" sections, backed by other great musicians.
Fun reaction - subbed. I've seen them twice in concert, and tbh was _more_ impressed after seeing her live than anything video can capture. Also, she can push her growls much lower than this. And then there are her excursions into entirely different genres - rap, reggae, jazz, blues. Vlad on drums, Roman on guitar, and Eugene on bass are always awesome too. Growls aren't done with the vocal cords, or at least not the way singing and speaking are depending on the technique. So our ideas of male and female voice don't really apply with those techniques. The size of the instrument does matter, so if you compare Jinjer covering Lamb of God's song Laid to Rest (the 2012 bootleg by NosSam has the best sound) to live video of the original, 6'1" Randy Blythe is able to go lower than 5'4" Tatiana can. But Randy is a legendary growler who built his growling skills on a background as a classically trained singer, and he worked with Melissa Cross to improve his growls and be sure his technique was solid so he wouldn't mess up his clean singing voice. Properly performed growls are less dangerous than intense clean singing, btw, and endoscope studies suggest that when correctly performed, they should never cause vocal injury. Of course, the keyword there is "correctly performed" and plenty of growlers have damaged their voices along the way. Tatiana by contrast is entirely self-taught as a growler, and her cleans are mostly self-taught aside from a few months of classes as a kid that she didn't have the discipline to stick with. Her skills are incredibly impressive but by no means unprecedented. There are quite a few female growlers who are working or have worked at a similar level, though few of them have her clean singing skills on top of those epic growls. On the other end of the spectrum, if you search for Pisces covers on YT you can see what women (and no few guys) have done with this song at varying levels of skill. Tati had been singing constantly for fun all her life, but was inspired to sing metal at 15 after hearing Otep growl and being shocked to find out that Otep is a woman. She had an intuition that she could shock people like that and started singing cleans in various local bands to build her clean singing foundation. At 18 she started practicing growling while still performing with clean vocals, and practiced growls for 4 years before integrating growls into her performances in the band she sang with for a bit before being recruited to join Jinjer in late 2009 when their then male singer was getting ready to leave, doing the last song for their first EP "Objects In Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear." She is 33 now and has been with Jinjer for a bit over a decade, and her skills are constantly improving. Perennial live at Wacken is a great followup. They did a tiny bit of post-production tweaking of that as well, adding some light clean layering in at least one spot that isn't in the bootleg. But it is the best video for someone who isn't primarily into growling to see what Tatiana can do with a well-rounded song on stage. To see how low she can go, the most savage growls on any video they have released are Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev. Someone mentioned Who Is Gonna Be The One in the comments - it is a great song and my favorite song by any band, and the official live video is a classic video by them and well worth checking out. But I don't know how many Jinjer videos you are going to do and it was 3 years ago while her skills are always growing, so if you want to see what Tati can do with her full range of growls more recently, Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev would be my next recommendation after Perennial.
Fun reaction- subbed. SERIOUSLY?!? You post the EXACT same thing on every video.GET HELP!!!!!!!! LIKE SERIOUSLY, GET PROFESSIONAL HELP. YOU NEED A FREAKING INTERVENTION. I don't think I have ever seen a bigger loser in my life. Maybe you should try at least going outside and getting some fresh air. I can't imagine the smell of doritos and Mountain Dew and body odor you must live in. Maybe mommy should kick you out of her basement.
Bubba Maker .... something tells me that if you have seen enough of Jeff’s comments to get this upset, you too must have a lot of time in the basement with the Doritos and Mountain Dew. He could be doing a lot worse than expressing his excitement and insights to encourage more reactions to a band he thoroughly enjoys.
Tati strikes again : ). Please react to Jinjer - Teacher Teacher : ) For an unique performance by one of the best blues vocalists : Beth Hart - Am I The One (Live At Paradiso).
Just check out Teacher Teacher from the same band, it's insanely good. Also Perennial Live at Wacken and Who's gonna be the one live, again from Jinjer
I love watching people react to this performance for the first time but the reactions from music professionals, like yourself, are always the most fun! You're amazed at all of the great details and you express it with the industry vocabulary, so it's instantly educational at the same time that it's being entertaining! A+, Music Teacher!
this was really, really, really good! the BEST! try: JinJer-teacher teacher AuRoRa-exist for love, and everything else she does! POPPY-scary mask, X, concrete, lowlife...
@@sobotai3 well I will help you understand then. =) .. I know this will come as a big surprise to you but not all humans on earth agree with you.. You cant just default to I am Right and think we all agree.. So understand difference and accept it .. The Right reply from you would be " I think they have way better material"
Friend, this was SO ENJOYABLE TO WATCH. I've heard this song a thousand times, but seeing and sharing in your excitement, and listening to the little nuances you jumped to talk about and note. Just really, really enjoyable content. Your passion for music shines. Absolutely shines.
thats how i met her for the first time. big building with lots of rooms for rehearsal. about 20 bands. went out to hallway to take a cig. heard a growling to recorded music happening. in 2 minutes out of that room came 2 girls. and i was like "WOW. THIS GIRL CAN SING!". Tanya later sang reggae for my fellow band. it is real, she can switch from classic vocal to growl in a blink of an eye. glad she got picked up by good producer and brought to the world as "Jinjer"
You’ve been played. This is the set up video for reactors venturing into metal. Think of it has a right of passage to earn credibility with your followers. What you want to do is react to the Teacher Teacher official video. It’s live and you will see the band and Tatiana at the top of their game.Have the lyrics handy since her vocal skills are used to bring them home in the form of a gut punch. It is also some of the best video produced in a long time. The Noise video by Nightwish is in the same ballpark. Time was taken to learn the song and performance, get the right camera shots and then the editing only helped to make that gut punch harder. Fair bet you will become a fan of this band. You should go to Teacher, Teacher next since it will help you cure that cognitive dissonance, process what’s happening and allow you to move on to appreciating one of the most talented bands out there in any genre.
That cognitive dissonance, to me comes from the subtle effects that I think are somewhat misinterpreted when assuming that live is producing unadulterated vocals. A little misleading but beautiful 😁
Meshuggah is incredible in concert. If you do Meshuggah, think of Jens's vocals as an additional percussion instrument. Everyone is going to suggest Bleed off the rip. I'd like to see something more along the lines of Dancers to a Discordant System or the official video for New Millenium Cyanide Christ. Both are easier to listen to than Bleed, but Bleed is 100% more impressive from a technical standpoint.
This version of this song of jinjer is sadly a bit off of their regular style. it's what I love about opeth but harder. You know a band that gives me more of this? Because the rest of jinjer has less of these beautiful, clean, complex stuff.
My friend, that ain't low for Tati (as other have pointed out). And the switch was for the guitar, not her. By the way, I enjoy your analysis very much. Good balance of listening and then pausing to explain. You're one of the good guys... you get just how good they all are right away. Here are a few good live videos. Who's Gonna Be the One: th-cam.com/video/U6rv5qi8-8s/w-d-xo.html (live, check the growl at ~ 4m mark) Words of Wisdom: th-cam.com/video/ew48eCy2fhU/w-d-xo.html (live) Perennial: th-cam.com/video/bxi3i9wzQBk/w-d-xo.html (live, good mix of cleans and growls) Pit of Consciousness: th-cam.com/video/vEhxuNuHWls/w-d-xo.html (live, brutal growls)
I love your reactions man. It's clear from your body language you are incredibly passionate about music. You strike me as almost a type of music empath the way the music has such an effect on you.
Yeah and there is a clear view of her with no obstruction and the floor around her is pedal free. that should be easy to see that it is the lead guitar's distortion pedal.
Get off your high horse, mark Tati really has this range without effects! Watch any live performance and you will know the truth! This woman has RANGE!
is absolutely her voice. I saw them in concert 3 months ago in México and was astonishing, outstanding, wonderful, marvelous, breathtaking. All the band is even better live React to Captain Clock live at Resurrection Fest Regards from Guadalajara Mexico
By far the best reaction to this song, and believe me, i've watched a lot, probably as many other Jinjer fans have, want to see the face of course. Your joy hearing the song just made me subscribe to you, but you made me realize why i loved this song from the start, the changes, vocals, the drumming and the contrast, i knew it but i could not put my finger on it, and you explained it all. :)
I have easily watched 100+ reactions to this video. Yours just made the top 3 list. Not only was it pure and honest, but as a fellow musician, it was great to see somone notice the little things like I did when I first heard it. The band is legit, and so is Tatiana's voice. Welcome to jinjer. 👍♥️
Always fun seeing a 1st time listener of Tatiana and Jinjer. Your face cracked me up😂 I’m sure by now plenty of ppl have told u that is not a vocal effects pedal it’s for the electric guitar. That scream is all her. Every band member is incredible at their craft!!!But yes this session has had post production added.
It is SO refreshing to find someone that reacts to music that obviously has a huge passion and respect for every aspect of it. Most "reaction" videos are simplified dribble where they'll listen to a song, give you 3 seconds of what they think the lyrics meant (which are usually WAY off), then try to sell you a t-shirt with their name on it. My respects to you, sir.
I mean, just watching your face while the song is playing is beyond what you get from any other "react" videos out there. I love it. You're here for the music. plain and simple.
she does it for real, there's no electronic trickery. only the normal usual production you expect on any mix, I mean reverb, double tracking, the stuff you do to vocal tracks, but she's doing it for real. she does it live too.
I had to watch your reaction to this one when I saw it here. First reactions to Pisces are always fun! I almost thought you were going to spoil the surprise when you paused right as the song changed, but you restarted and definitely got the shock everyone was expecting. Tatiana is really great. I don't listen to much metal, but performances like this one are slowly pulling me in.
I really appreciate your reaction/response to this performance!! 🙌💣🔥I've watched hella reaction videos of this song ((from vocalists and otherwise)) & you've brought up a bunch of different points to focus on ((ex::Tatiana's vocal doubling effect)) that I had never realized/recognized &/or consciously distinguished before. Your facial expressions are sooo on point too!! Your reaction is exactly how I feel inside even still today after hearing it probably like 6937284 times haha 😝😁 In conclusion, you definitely got me as a new subscriber 😌 Thanks for the awesome video!! 🤘💯
Watching the reactions to this video has become my quarantine guilty pleasure (I’ve seriously watched a hundred of them). Everyone comments the same that knows Jinjer, but it’s the calmness that pulls people in and then hit with the surprising death growls. This song is also old and was recorded with their old drummer, who was good but didn’t have the technical prowess that Vlad has...he completely changed the dynamics of most of the song. They’ve actually mentioned doing this version to have a recorded version with Vlad’s drumming. Also, I’d imagine her layered vocals are from the original recording.
Loved your reaction, subscribed...welcome to the new world of metal!!! I'm sure you'll have plenty of Jinjer recommendations coming, but stick to live where mentioned. Hope to watch again soon!
Metal Head and first time viewer. Very pleased with OP and his genuine reactions. Always makes me smile when people show love for an under appreciated genre like metal
I can't wait to see them live here in Costa Rica, in December 🖤🖤🖤 one of the most original bands ever... They are all amazing.. I love ur reactions!!! Big fan now
Dude, awesome, nice to see a reaction where you can pick out, analyze, and appreciate the compositional technicality’s if this band! Rock on, welcome to #jinjerarmy Btw, (drummer here) those multiple light snare hits you are trying to described can be considered “ghost notes”
Jinjer is rapidly growing in popularity with a big help from reactions such as yours. They did their first US headlining tour last year and i was fortunate enough to see them live. It was phenomenal. Keep diving down the rabbit hole, they are one of kind and will blow your mind.
This drummer is amazing. You can hear a real difference between the studio version on the album (old drummer), and his work here. IIRC this was his first time playing with them after officially joining the band.
you just listened to the best band in the world..best drummer ever and tatianna has an insane vocal..yes the growl vocal is all her no pedals..seen them 4 times now and always blown away ...
This is the best Pisces reaction “pause” of all time lol.
Thanks! I’ve had so many people accuse me of faking it too because it just seems too good to be true
@@TheMuserResolute No, I could see the anticipation of a musical change. You knew something was going to ramp up soon, same as I did when I first heard this. I could see you feeling it coming, and it was pretty clear that you wanted to talk about the first section before you got into the more aggressive chorus...you just hit it perfectly to remain unaware just how aggressive it actually is.
yeah just shows his understanding of musical composition / structure to anticipate changes
I've seen a lot of pauses right before "the reveal" as it were, but this is by far the CLOSEST WOW 👏
Yeah,, he looked really traumatised. Everybody is shocked when they hear her growling. With me it was the opposite. I was relieved. I just thought "Nice, women who I've never met can have such extreme mood swings too. It's not just me, even if that's what I have been told." Yeah; I am having a beer on that.
reactors: *pause right before the first growl hits*
me: do the roar
Lol
Can’t lie found this too funny
That was perfect pause
@Kobe Tadeo and i hope you know that you are a terrible person that deserves to ጌሁዪክ. ጎክ. ዘቿረረ
Content Creator: "I have never heard of this band, so I don't know what to expect.:
Me and other reaction junkies: *devilsh smirk*
Im currently on a Jinjer-Pisces spree - This is my 6th-7th person so far
@@RaukomorEruth it's a deep rabbit hole, dude. it's my first week.
"reaction junkies" yeah, it's totally me X) Think it's my 30-40th I stopped counting long time ago X)
pulling up the popcorn an d sitting back , waiting... ;p
@@RaukomorEruth lol if u want check out my channel if done a reaction to her as well
what's even more incredible is that Tatiana, the vocalist, is completely self taught.
But I helped! I'm always there. I'm glad you liked my part in this song!
@@tatianaspossessivedemon1739 lmfaoo
@@tatianaspossessivedemon1739 HAHA Dude. About time someone made an account for ya. xD lmao
@@tatianaspossessivedemon1739 lmao I'm rolling. Hope you have a nice day
@@WrektSK you as well!
The band is over 10 years old. They had several changes among the musicians, especially for the drummers. The vocalist is Tatiana, bassist is Eugene, guitarist is Roman and drummer is Vlad. They've grown big since this song "Pisces". Vlad is remarkable for playing open-handed and usually on small kits but with a huge sound, he is a fine technician on his instrument, plays a lot of ghost notes, but also plays the guitar and the piano. Eugene is remarkable for pushing bass forward, tapping and sliding, and being very technical too on his instrument (mainly a five-string bass). Roman is not often mentionned, and that is a shame, because he does not have the typical profile of a metal-guitarist. You'll scarcely hear soli or choruses, but the work he does, melodically and rhythmically is absolutely mindblowing. And well Tatiana is close to be a legend, probably the best current metal vocalist: her cleans are impeccable, her growls can be very deep and powerful. She also masters the stage (you'll see if you check "Perennial" live as suggested below) and her lyrics are more than worth reading. Let us not forget how beautiful most of her vocal proposals are on the melodies the boys compose. This band is unique, their influences are numerous, ranging from progressive rock to reggae, blues, etc, which gives them a pretty unique sound. They are also very tight. At last, you noticed it, time changes are their signature. Enjoy your discovery of this amazing band, imho the best band of this decade. Cheers!
Thanks so much for the info!
Great overview. Roman doesn't get nearly enough respect. :)
Nailed it! Stating "the best band of the decade" is always personal and I heard a lot for many bands, but never I have been so sure and confortable with it as I am with Jinjer. They really are! What a band!
I'm saving this in my Jinjer "notes". Great summation! Agree about Roman, I think they would sound very different without him.
Excellent comment Valerie.
I just like how genuinely excited he gets when he hears something he likes.
The problem with people recommending this version is that it has post production, even if the session was recorded live, so lots of people end up assuming her pitch is modified somehow. She does it live effortless, tho, no electronic adjustment required. The scene with the pedal is the guitar turning on its distortion, not the mic, you can see there's nothing of the sort around her. There's doubling added in post, but it's a different recording of her own voice, and there some delay as well in some of the clean parts.
@Bloviator Magnus why? What is so hard to believe about this?
No, its her voice 1:1 , i hear Jinjer at woodstock in Poland.
Honestly, as a former vocalist and sound tech, I'm not afraid of a choruser or reverb... I wish people would get over it...
Facts. I always think the same thing until they watch Perennial live. Or any other fucking live show.
@@ScornNoob No, not exactly. I've seen them live more than once and she didn't sound so low. Furthermore I've never hear her sing the high cleans in the breakdown part. :/ There is for sure some subtle editing there. But she's still absolutely amazing. :) Listen to the Judgement (& Punishment) one-take, that's how she sounds - a lot more female. :)
"Cognitive dissonance". I'm glad in this day and age people recognize their own. Great reaction!!
The timing on that pause before the drop though
Kinda suspect 🤔
@@lc4295 The reason? You guessed it: kinda suspect Frank Stallone.
@@terriblecrayon Norm references always hit me when I least expect them.
Or so the Germans would have us believe.
It's like that on every video. Then again, it is the transition that everyone pauses on. It's the transition that's telling you "something else is coming".
its always that way. :D watched 5 reactions in a row and EVERYONE pauses there and gets totally blown away. Same with the second blow.
YESSS!!! You're the first "reactor", who noticed the strange time signature on this song! Congratulation. it starts with 7/8 changes to 6/8 and then to 8/8
Great job and great reaction and analysis. Thank you.
Greetings from Austria
Wottles
Also he paid close attention to how awesome the drums are - IIRC the band itself said that this song became really good only when they got Vlad as a drummer.
dang 7/8 makes much more sense, i’ve thought it alternated between 3/4 and 4/4 in 2 bars but 7/8 makes more sense
I saw several that pointed out a 3/4
Yeah, it's 7/8 that's emphasized as 3/8 + 4/8.
That's all her dude. She's incredible with those false vocal folds
Metal vocalist here! From what I can tell, Tatiana uses the same growling technique that I do. The vocal chords are actually relaxed and are not making noise, instead the false vocal folds are making the noise, and when done correctly doesn't hurt the voice at all and is quite sustainable. The sound of it is of course dependent upon individual physiology. Hope this helps explain things a little :)
I think the next one has to be "Jinjer - Perennial (live at Wacken Open Air 2019)", to see her doing all of this live without any studio effects and sounding almost the same.
Yea perennial live at wacken is the perfect "proof she really does it" second watch. A couple others that would be really good for you to see some of the directions that this band can go would be retrospection or judgment and Punishment. As you go along, you'll find out that this band put together is just as talented as she is. They've been around since 2009 and they are probably the fastest growing metal act today.
Tatiana-vocals
Roman-guitar
Eugene-bass
Vlad-drums
I watch Perennial live in Wacken 2019 three times a day, for some reason. It’s like brushing my teeth.
@@danielmrtns I like to catch perennial live at wacken for reaction videos. I usually start my day off by listening to pit of Consciousness and Ape 2-5 times apiece.
I've no idea why people keep recommending the live version. She's good live, but it becomes very apparent how much doubling up and reverb they use for the studio recordings to make her vocals sound more full, and her range live is never quite as good and her transitions aren't as smooth, and the growls are more flat.
@@MudHut67 I know what you are talking about and I agree in some level, but i think that the effects are necessary because its so difficult to have both growling and clean vocals in a high level. And I like this live version in special because it was their last set song and they performed like it was in the beginning or middle of the set showing so much energy, and not every band can do this.
This song never gets old!!
And I pray it never will.
Never, ever!
especially the reaction from first time jinjer listeners :) love the reactions to her growl, it always makes my day
Neither do the reactions to it :)
You mean the reactions never get old.
The entire band is so gifted it boggles the mind. They play like no others. Just flat out amazing music.
Should definitely check out “Demolisher” by Slaughter To Prevail! Their vocalist, Alex Terrible, will leave you speechless on what’s possible with the human vocal chords
DEFINETELY
I listened to it based on your suggestion and that was amazing! Never heard of them but they'll be in my rotation now, thanks!
@@terratrodder it is a MASTERPIECE man... Like, the whole song is a breakdown and when I listen to it I just can't stop headbanging
dont kill the man! hahaha
Demolisher was my "reintroduction" to them (heard Agony before, wasn't really into it at the time, but that's changed) and I haven't been the same since 🤣
This is all her. Across the board, they are amazing. Tatiana's vocals do have some effects here...but they're also pure. What's added is purely background. The tone, the transitions, the emphasis and the purity of her cleans AND growls is real. She demonstrates this on many songs and is as good (or better) live than in videos. ---------------- If I understood correctly from what I've seen/read, this was a "try out" for the drummer. Their previous drummer was let go and this was essentially a "try out". This guy is now (and has been for a while) their drummer due either in part or in full to his incredible performance here.
This wasn't a try out. Vlad had already been playing with them (since early to mid 2016) before they decided to rerecord this track with him. Dmitry Kim wasn't "let go", he left because the deal he had with Jinjer was to replace Mantulin until the band found a new drummer. : )
Good deal. Thanks.
Some effect? Pure? Sounds like doubling up and reverb to me. She doesn't sound like this live, more more flat growls without the same range.
Not a try out, more of a demonstration of the energy their new drummer brings to the table.
Well, now you know why this song was requested so much. It's one of their few songs with a long clean vocal section at the beginning and people recommend it for the 'gotcha' moment. Once you get past the initial shock of Tati's harsh vocals and dig into the music it's apparent just how good this band is as a whole. As good as this song is, I still feel it's at the lower end of what they are capable of. They also have a wide range of influences and like to incorporate other genres into their music.
They had a second guitarist for their first two albums, but he left to pursue other interests. As far as their popularity in Ukraine, I'm sure they are now but I remember them talking in an interview about having to make the decision to leave and tour elsewhere to gain exposure so they actually gained more recognition outside of the country before they did there. Speaking of touring, they play a ton of shows and are excellent live. Last year they did over 150 concerts.
There are other bands with female singers who can do harsh vocals, but Tati is probably my favorite for her overall ability as a vocalist and a performer on stage. Some others are Spiritbox, Infected Rain, Arch Enemy, and Otep.
Courtney Laplante is an absolute monster. For years I've dreamt of her and Tatiana doing a song together. One can wish. Lol
Great reaction man! It's nice to see a music teacher not be too traditional and whose first thought isn't doubt, but awe. As a musician myself, when I first heard heard Tatiana scream I got the biggest smile plastered on my face and, honestly, I kinda fell in love. lol She's got some raw, and pretty rare talent. It kinda reinvigorated me as an artist. It's nice to have musicians who are fresh and push music in new directions. It's good for everybody. She's also helped bring this kind of music to a larger audience, which is really awesome. 🤘🏻
You're incredibly entertaining to watch as you've got a firm grasp of what's going on and you're able to break that down in easy to understood chunks.
That and you're also very emotive with your body language which is always a blast to see.
I'd suggest the band Spiritbox for something in a similar vein of having incredibly skilled musicians and an incredible vocalist.
Rule of Nines or Blessed Be are two good introductions. There's also The Mara Effect, though that is essentially a 3-part song and the total length is over 20 minutes so might be a bit rough for a video.
3:41 "yes....yes....." then
😱😱
😂
It's clear to see that he stopped there to analyse the song, not because he knew what was coming. ; )
Exactly! As one who knew what was coming, I was loving that he paused where he did and backed up to talk about the music rather than the singing.
You need some more Jinjer. Welcome to the Jinjer army. Here are a few suggestions:
Perennial (live at waken open air 2019)
Who is gonna be the one (official live video)
Pit of counciousness (live in Kiev)
On the top (live in Kiev)
Judgment and punishment (live in Melbourne)
That is her voice. On this live session some post production was added but that is her all the way. She is a vocal beast and you will see that if you watch the live songs in concert.
Her name is Tatiana
The rest of the band: Vladimir on drums, Roman on the guitar and Eugen on the bass.
Hope to see you react to more Jinjer
The reaction of the final high pitch bit in the final growl is always my favourite. She is such a talent.
JINJER is magnificent, Tatiana is astounding they better be headlining the Grammys this year, edge of my seat and chills every time!
Jinjer and Nightwish reactions are my favourite, Im not disappointed here :D
Someone in an interview with Tatiana asked what she does to warm up her voice before a performance and she replied, “Nothing”. 😲
"Perennial (live at waken open air 2019)" is the MUST SEE as second reaction, believe me... the performance is mindblown.
This is a live session, all her, as they wanted to show off the new drummer, they added some stuff in post production from the album version. They are very open about it. The whole band are beasts, Tatiana has amazing vocal and amazing writing skills, considering english is not her first language. They write for the song overall, not for anyone to show off above the others. Yes, she can do it all live.
"vocal effects pedal"?
I'm almost certain that's the guitar pedal, turning on the distortion for the chorus, but I could be wrong
Also, the rhythmic patterns from the drummer you mentioned are called ghost notes :)
Yup Defs the guitar pedal! Thank you for watching :)
My ears say that the whole song was doubled?, so not truly “live”, but just a unique day’s rerecording. The distorted guitar sustains beyond the clean coming back in as well. But I don’t think the distorted vocals are any more processed than the clean, you’ll see in any of their other songs, distorted “Death voice” is her preferred mode of metal, the other tones used for contrast, the more contrast the more progressive. Just the first verse went from 7/8, to 6/8, to 4/4, they’re not much interested in simple...
@@TheMuserResolute Of course it was a guitar pedal. Editing this "Question" in , left a bit of a bad taste
@@svenfrancisco4930 It's been the main focus of many of the hater comments. I read through them all and am super thankful for the engagement and that people are watching my videos and getting that far in. Thanks for taking the time to comment
And he calls himself "music teacher" please...
Tatianna, the vocalist, describes herself as a shy, introverted geek. What you see in this video, and especially at her concerts, is her stage presence. She built up her stage presence over time, and has said without it she could never step on a stage. While I know what most people say about her growl sound, one reacter had a unique, and cool, description by saying it suddenly sounded like a thousand soldiers were roaring, rather than the typical, “she sounds like an angel... oh my goodness! Where’d that demon come from??” Also, I heard one vocal coach say the muscles she uses to make the growl are the same muscles needed to sing opera. That is why/how she can switch between gentle and growl and back so effortlessly.
One more thing, they hired Vlad three days before this live video was filmed.
I doubt the part about muscles =) To sing groul, scream etc. you need false cord (it's not create any pitch for ur sound, but correct use of it gives you vocal that scratchy sound, and the pitch you take sounds much lower.) in other case it will hurt you. Opera ignore this part of you vocal eqipment because it's doesn't need to them.
@@DistalX are you a vocal coach?
@@Pecos1 no, just learning how to sing including extreme. Still not successful though )) that opinion is not mine but the guy from Hellscream Academy channel. But it's russian language
@@DistalX I don't believe that vocal coach meant the exact same muscles. He did also mention the false chord, stating she worked both the false chord and her additional muscle work in tandem to create her growl. I call it a growl because it never feels like she is s reaming at me when I listen to it. Now in some of her other songs she does have a scream sound. Her "one-take of Judgement and Punishment" has a very obvious scream. But to say she is not using muscles to make her distinctive sound seems dismissive in my opinion. The way she switches so quickly and naturally requires a lot of work and practice, and she herself has said so (with the disclaimer to not attempt to mimic her sound), and requires both vocal work and muscle actions.
@@Pecos1 The point tis that you can mix your distortion with standard vocal in different proportion. The better you as a singer, the better your control over that mix. You can hear Chad Kroeger with just a little adding of distortion like 15%, someone like David Draiman with like 40%, and of course Tatiana with 75-80% of distortion, they all have a good contol and can choose, btw you can hear Tatiana's, let's call it 15%, in Piscies bridge. The diferences between growl and scream in a tone, the technique is same. You hear it in such a different way because we call growling a chest voice with distortion adding, and screaming is mix or head voice, like Chester Bennington. But the distortion sound without your vocal cord is just a mechanic scratchy sound without a pitch(note) not sure how to call it correct. Oh and about same muscle, I think you should know Davin Thousand. He is a great example of how close to opera voice will sound with growl.
Perfect reaction, I love watching people that know music listen to Jinjer. The syncopated polyrhythms, bass and drum fillers, and the time shifts are phenomenal. You could throw any member in a prog-Jazz band and none would losing a step.
Tatiana Shmayluk is the vocalist, simply put, she’s at the top of the female extreme vocalist echelon.
The only effects added to her vocals in this song are a compression (light), slight echo, and a very subtle chorus effect which are all fading in and out throughout the song. She doesn’t use (or need) a pitch shifter or added distortion. ALL OF the abrasive screams are all HER.
'Cognitive Dissonance' will now be my official way of describing Jinjer. Edit: In the absolute best way possible, this group is mind blowing.
That pedal is the guitarist pedal. That's all her vocals 100% but this video has editing , I'm not an expert in that field so I don't know the details and terms except that the vocals are layered with hers but this whole band is unbelievably talented. The more you watch the more you will love this band because they don't have one bad song. Check out all their live videos you will see they sound just as good if not better. The band Jinjer was formed in 2009 but they originally had a male vocalists and another guitarist and a different drummer.
You are right. Her vocal is dubbed - meaning that there are two recordings on top of each other. Both are her - in the chorus there is a low growl and a higher pitched "screamer".
@@martinhelgren that's what I thought but I didn't wanna quote something if it wasn't correct.
"That pedal is the guitarist pedal." Yes. How else can the Guitar go from clean to distorted? Either a channel switch or turned on an Overdrive/Distortion pedal.
[Edit] Vocal dubbing and layering is a very common recording practice. Even still the take are live and real and need to fit and sit in the mix perfectly. That is still no electronic enhancements.
It's called Helix Line 6
@@uppotukki Seems like you just typed that because it's some "buzz words" you've heard. Do you even know what a "Line 6 Helix" is? Sounds like not because that is a Guitar Multi-Effect processor.
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Agreed
The retinal circus version is better
Also, Deadhead (live at Royal Albert Hall) or Higher! Live in Plovdiv
Amen to this!
Yasssss, bring on Devy's Kingdom!!!
OMG I'm so excited to see you do more of Jinjer!!! As I'm sure many have commented. This song, as incredible as it is, doesn't showcase even half of their true talent. Welcome to the Jinjer rabbit hole :D
As far as reactions go, his couldn't be more genuine. Love the way he giggled when she growled.
Thank you! Best reaction to Jinjer ever. The band is amazingly talented and I appreciate someone seeing beyond just the growl. I am a Yank living in Ukraine currrently and yes they are loved here. She personifies the heart of Ukranian women. Beautiful and strong.
Thank you 😊
Nightwish and now Jinjer.....great reaction. Yes that is Tatiana's voice! Try some of their live performances! Even though this is a live session there has been some post production done on the video...namely extra vocals by Tatiana on certain parts.
Insane!! Seriously? No vocal effects pedal???
@@TheMuserResolute Seriously...it's all her without any effects!! She's a beast!
That's incredible
@@TheMuserResolute try Perennial Live at Wacken 2019) th-cam.com/video/bxi3i9wzQBk/w-d-xo.html or Judgement (& Punishment) Live in Melbourne 2020 th-cam.com/video/Yavcvr9VfqM/w-d-xo.html
@@TheMuserResolute on "Who is gonna be the one live " her growls are even deeper. Try that one! 🙂
This is one of the best reactions to this song that I've seen. Nice job!
Thank u 😊
AW dude! Your reaction to this warms my damn heart. Thank u!
"What did I just listen to?" .... Insane talent that has never been heard of before (for the most part) as far as I know... A *very* special and talented singer... that tonal shift when doing the demon/distorted vocals always makes me go "... whoah!... DAMN GIRL!" because I have *NEVER* heard of that before from *ANY* artist... Even though I don't really listen to metal/death metal/growl vocals, I do pay attention to what I do hear (do to my personal emphasis on lyrics and vocals in general), I can honestly say I have never heard such a clean and definite clear (large) pitch shift done in growl vocals (definitely not bu that amount/much or even that cleanly)... She is definitely something special, just a shame that I, personally, don't care for most metal music personally (it all bends together too much into a single noise for me personally, probably due to my personal hearing issues).... But I *definitely* recognize and deeply respect her talent.
Sounds trash ngl
@@jjj79394 ... In what universe would this be considered trash? It's one thing to not like a song/band because they don't fit your personal taste but that doesn't automatically make them "trash". if you think this song is trash then you have absolutely no idea what actual music trash (or skill) is. From an objective perspective (regardless of whether I like the song or not), they have skill and talent (instruments don't play themselves and singing isn't skilless), a solid melody, etc (I could go on, but I've already made the point that music is not a skill-less activity)... In other words, your opinion is mistaken at best and ignorantly shallow at worst, ngl... Doesn't even make sense, unless you happen to like "music" that has completely intelligible vocals and instruments played in a way that sound like 3 drunk cats fighting in a squealing washing machine being run over by a steamroller driven by a baby in the middle of a screaming tantrum... Just sayin.
@@squall7734 didnt ask bruv
this singer sounds like a rusty volkswagen with gravel in its mouth
@@jjj79394 That's called "growling" and is extremely common/frequent in heavy metal (especially death metal), however, unlike 98% of them, you can actually understand Tatiana and what's she is saying (the singer of this group). You did "ask" by posting an incredibly ignorant "opinion" to *my* comment which means that you were talking *to* me which in turn indicates you wanted a discussion. Unfortunately for you, I am uninterested in having an unenlightened discussion with someone who is so ignorant that can't don't know how to discern person opinion/tastes from objectivity who then acts like what they say still matters because they "didn't ask bruv" (speaking of, you forgot a comma as my name isn't "bruv", but whatever). All you've done is proven that when it comes to music, your opinion is irrelevant and worthless due to your lack of knowledge and respect towards the various branches of the craft. Peace out.
Check out the rest of Jinjer's recent work (and their old stuff, but i really think they hit full stride with their Macro album, which is their most recent), and some more reaction-bait songs with great vocals, Slaughter To Prevail - Demolisher, MTR's got a video for that one for sure, for ultimate female-heavy-HEAVY songs, maybe give Spiritbox - Holy Roller a shot (good song on it's own, but, music video really actually adds to it, atmospherically), Lamb of God - Memento Mori was a fun one (video also recommended), but, Holy Roller was a mindf*** because that's not their usual style, and in my mind, it's the heavy song of the year, arguably song of the year period.
Sorry for the long ramble of sh!t, but, if you enjoyed Tatiana/Jinjer, I think you'll love those, all of them are actual musical talent, with a good singing/harmony and "I'm literally a demon" sections, backed by other great musicians.
Fun reaction - subbed. I've seen them twice in concert, and tbh was _more_ impressed after seeing her live than anything video can capture. Also, she can push her growls much lower than this. And then there are her excursions into entirely different genres - rap, reggae, jazz, blues. Vlad on drums, Roman on guitar, and Eugene on bass are always awesome too.
Growls aren't done with the vocal cords, or at least not the way singing and speaking are depending on the technique. So our ideas of male and female voice don't really apply with those techniques. The size of the instrument does matter, so if you compare Jinjer covering Lamb of God's song Laid to Rest (the 2012 bootleg by NosSam has the best sound) to live video of the original, 6'1" Randy Blythe is able to go lower than 5'4" Tatiana can. But Randy is a legendary growler who built his growling skills on a background as a classically trained singer, and he worked with Melissa Cross to improve his growls and be sure his technique was solid so he wouldn't mess up his clean singing voice. Properly performed growls are less dangerous than intense clean singing, btw, and endoscope studies suggest that when correctly performed, they should never cause vocal injury. Of course, the keyword there is "correctly performed" and plenty of growlers have damaged their voices along the way. Tatiana by contrast is entirely self-taught as a growler, and her cleans are mostly self-taught aside from a few months of classes as a kid that she didn't have the discipline to stick with. Her skills are incredibly impressive but by no means unprecedented. There are quite a few female growlers who are working or have worked at a similar level, though few of them have her clean singing skills on top of those epic growls. On the other end of the spectrum, if you search for Pisces covers on YT you can see what women (and no few guys) have done with this song at varying levels of skill.
Tati had been singing constantly for fun all her life, but was inspired to sing metal at 15 after hearing Otep growl and being shocked to find out that Otep is a woman. She had an intuition that she could shock people like that and started singing cleans in various local bands to build her clean singing foundation. At 18 she started practicing growling while still performing with clean vocals, and practiced growls for 4 years before integrating growls into her performances in the band she sang with for a bit before being recruited to join Jinjer in late 2009 when their then male singer was getting ready to leave, doing the last song for their first EP "Objects In Mirror Are Closer Than They Appear." She is 33 now and has been with Jinjer for a bit over a decade, and her skills are constantly improving.
Perennial live at Wacken is a great followup. They did a tiny bit of post-production tweaking of that as well, adding some light clean layering in at least one spot that isn't in the bootleg. But it is the best video for someone who isn't primarily into growling to see what Tatiana can do with a well-rounded song on stage. To see how low she can go, the most savage growls on any video they have released are Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev. Someone mentioned Who Is Gonna Be The One in the comments - it is a great song and my favorite song by any band, and the official live video is a classic video by them and well worth checking out. But I don't know how many Jinjer videos you are going to do and it was 3 years ago while her skills are always growing, so if you want to see what Tati can do with her full range of growls more recently, Pit of Consciousness live in Kiev would be my next recommendation after Perennial.
Quality stuff again, #JinjerJeff
Leaves me in peace to just post "Teacher Teacher please" LOL ;)
Fun reaction- subbed. SERIOUSLY?!? You post the EXACT same thing on every video.GET HELP!!!!!!!! LIKE SERIOUSLY, GET PROFESSIONAL HELP. YOU NEED A FREAKING INTERVENTION. I don't think I have ever seen a bigger loser in my life. Maybe you should try at least going outside and getting some fresh air. I can't imagine the smell of doritos and Mountain Dew and body odor you must live in. Maybe mommy should kick you out of her basement.
Bubba Maker .... something tells me that if you have seen enough of Jeff’s comments to get this upset, you too must have a lot of time in the basement with the Doritos and Mountain Dew. He could be doing a lot worse than expressing his excitement and insights to encourage more reactions to a band he thoroughly enjoys.
Love your reactions! Absolutely subbing. I look forward to your next reaction.
It's wonderful to see Jinjer open a door into a new world for someone who understands. It's up to you to step through it.
Great reaction. Subbed.
Tati strikes again : ). Please react to Jinjer - Teacher Teacher : )
For an unique performance by one of the best blues vocalists : Beth Hart - Am I The One (Live At Paradiso).
Not sure there's a fully live video of Teacher Teacher (yet)
Just check out Teacher Teacher from the same band, it's insanely good. Also Perennial Live at Wacken and Who's gonna be the one live, again from Jinjer
I love watching people react to this performance for the first time but the reactions from music professionals, like yourself, are always the most fun! You're amazed at all of the great details and you express it with the industry vocabulary, so it's instantly educational at the same time that it's being entertaining! A+, Music Teacher!
Reactions to jinjer are great. Reactions that can fully appreciate the music and vocals, i absolutely love. I'll be around for more. Great reaction.
If you want to see her do it live I'd recommend Judgment and Punishment live in Melbourne 2020
I was really annoyed that I missed that show as I had no idea they were in town until after it.
this was really, really, really good! the BEST! try:
JinJer-teacher teacher
AuRoRa-exist for love, and everything else she does!
POPPY-scary mask, X, concrete, lowlife...
Still so love watching the reaction to Tatiana - the sheer amazement - some laugh, some scare, all "don't expect that"
Love it!
One of the best reactions I've ever seen. Your emotions and, well, reactions are so genuine! Awesome. And the vocals... that's all her. =)
So, what you're saying is, listen to music LOUD AF? Damn straigth😁
It’s the only way!
If yer gonna do it, do it right.
Jinger Teacher, Teacher! Next and maby look at the lyrics as well =)
I will never understand why you request Teacher Teacher, they have way better material.
@@sobotai3 well I will help you understand then. =) .. I know this will come as a big surprise to you but not all humans on earth agree with you.. You cant just default to I am Right and think we all agree.. So understand difference and accept it .. The Right reply from you would be " I think they have way better material"
Friend, this was SO ENJOYABLE TO WATCH. I've heard this song a thousand times, but seeing and sharing in your excitement, and listening to the little nuances you jumped to talk about and note. Just really, really enjoyable content. Your passion for music shines. Absolutely shines.
thats how i met her for the first time. big building with lots of rooms for rehearsal. about 20 bands. went out to hallway to take a cig. heard a growling to recorded music happening. in 2 minutes out of that room came 2 girls. and i was like "WOW. THIS GIRL CAN SING!". Tanya later sang reggae for my fellow band. it is real, she can switch from classic vocal to growl in a blink of an eye. glad she got picked up by good producer and brought to the world as "Jinjer"
You’ve been played. This is the set up video for reactors venturing into metal. Think of it has a right of passage to earn credibility with your followers. What you want to do is react to the Teacher Teacher official video. It’s live and you will see the band and Tatiana at the top of their game.Have the lyrics handy since her vocal skills are used to bring them home in the form of a gut punch. It is also some of the best video produced in a long time. The Noise video by Nightwish is in the same ballpark. Time was taken to learn the song and performance, get the right camera shots and then the editing only helped to make that gut punch harder.
Fair bet you will become a fan of this band. You should go to Teacher, Teacher next since it will help you cure that cognitive dissonance, process what’s happening and allow you to move on to appreciating one of the most talented bands out there in any genre.
Teacher Teacher is studio with live footage. Still a great video though
Dee D thanks for the correction, I knew that it was heavily produced, but that makes much more sense.
That cognitive dissonance, to me comes from the subtle effects that I think are somewhat misinterpreted when assuming that live is producing unadulterated vocals.
A little misleading but beautiful 😁
*rite of passage
You should definitely react to Poets of the Fall - Carnival of Rust. Their vocalist has one of the best voices I‘ve ever heard.
I have seen Jinjer 4 times last year and they put on a hell of a show. And Tatiana sounds really like that.
your obvious excitement throughout this song -love it. subscribing just on the back of that ! haha
You should do some Meshuggah, Opeth, Devin Townsend, Leprous and of course, some Tool.
Meshuggah is incredible in concert. If you do Meshuggah, think of Jens's vocals as an additional percussion instrument. Everyone is going to suggest Bleed off the rip. I'd like to see something more along the lines of Dancers to a Discordant System or the official video for New Millenium Cyanide Christ. Both are easier to listen to than Bleed, but Bleed is 100% more impressive from a technical standpoint.
This version of this song of jinjer is sadly a bit off of their regular style. it's what I love about opeth but harder. You know a band that gives me more of this? Because the rest of jinjer has less of these beautiful, clean, complex stuff.
My friend, that ain't low for Tati (as other have pointed out). And the switch was for the guitar, not her. By the way, I enjoy your analysis very much. Good balance of listening and then pausing to explain. You're one of the good guys... you get just how good they all are right away. Here are a few good live videos.
Who's Gonna Be the One: th-cam.com/video/U6rv5qi8-8s/w-d-xo.html (live, check the growl at ~ 4m mark)
Words of Wisdom: th-cam.com/video/ew48eCy2fhU/w-d-xo.html (live)
Perennial: th-cam.com/video/bxi3i9wzQBk/w-d-xo.html (live, good mix of cleans and growls)
Pit of Consciousness: th-cam.com/video/vEhxuNuHWls/w-d-xo.html (live, brutal growls)
you need to do also teacher teacher
@@Amos4946 Yeah, but everyone yells for that one so I left it off the list. No way he won't end up watching Teacher Teacher!
Watching people react to this song never gets old! A song that was released 4 years ago is still shocking & amazing people.
I love your reactions man. It's clear from your body language you are incredibly passionate about music. You strike me as almost a type of music empath the way the music has such an effect on you.
You should change the title ;)
You misspelled Jinjer
Thank you!! 😊
I see you had a bunch of existencial crisis while recording this 😂😂😂
LMAO you're reactions are awesome!
you can truly see your passion for music and teaching, this was one of the most satisfying reactions to watch :D
Awww thank you 😊
The “vocal effects pedal?” Comment seems weird from musician of any kind. That’s clearly guitar pedal
Yeah I dunno if I've heard of a vocal effects pedal before lol
Yeah very odd
Yeah and there is a clear view of her with no obstruction and the floor around her is pedal free. that should be easy to see that it is the lead guitar's distortion pedal.
No its guitar distortion pedal
Oh Hi Mark! Yes! Thanks for watching 😊
No it’s not. It’s a false fold screaming. It’s not a fry but false folds and she’s even better in concert.
Yep.. So called music TEACHER should know what that is...? i suppose..?
Get off your high horse, mark Tati really has this range without effects! Watch any live performance and you will know the truth! This woman has RANGE!
DomMcVee my bad that was a response to my comment in the vid. Tat is absolutely amazing and pinned this guy’s post because I love his username
Yo you're an adorable man. That reaction was so sweet
is absolutely her voice.
I saw them in concert 3 months ago in México and was astonishing, outstanding, wonderful, marvelous, breathtaking.
All the band is even better live
React to Captain Clock live at Resurrection Fest
Regards from Guadalajara Mexico
By far the best reaction to this song, and believe me, i've watched a lot, probably as many other Jinjer fans have, want to see the face of course.
Your joy hearing the song just made me subscribe to you, but you made me realize why i loved this song from the start, the changes, vocals, the drumming and the contrast, i knew it but i could not put my finger on it, and you explained it all. :)
By far, the best reaction on this song man. Thank you!
Welcome to the Jinjer Army!!!!!!!!! Keep going!! It only gets better.
I have easily watched 100+ reactions to this video.
Yours just made the top 3 list.
Not only was it pure and honest, but as a fellow musician, it was great to see somone notice the little things like I did when I first heard it.
The band is legit, and so is Tatiana's voice.
Welcome to jinjer. 👍♥️
Thank you 😊
I've watched so many Jinjer reactions, but just seeing your obvious love of music is one of the best.
Always fun seeing a 1st time listener of Tatiana and Jinjer. Your face cracked me up😂 I’m sure by now plenty of ppl have told u that is not a vocal effects pedal it’s for the electric guitar. That scream is all her. Every band member is incredible at their craft!!!But yes this session has had post production added.
It is SO refreshing to find someone that reacts to music that obviously has a huge passion and respect for every aspect of it. Most "reaction" videos are simplified dribble where they'll listen to a song, give you 3 seconds of what they think the lyrics meant (which are usually WAY off), then try to sell you a t-shirt with their name on it. My respects to you, sir.
I mean, just watching your face while the song is playing is beyond what you get from any other "react" videos out there. I love it. You're here for the music. plain and simple.
Excellent reaction - your facial expressions are brilliant :) Welcome down the rabbit hole.
Brilliant reaction. She's the bomb in every way
INSTANT like for Jinjer and your reaction even before I saw the vid :)
Welcome to the world of Jinjer, no going back now, the whole band is epic 👍👍
I like it when people who understand a lot about music appreciate a song and musicians.
she does it for real, there's no electronic trickery. only the normal usual production you expect on any mix, I mean reverb, double tracking, the stuff you do to vocal tracks, but she's doing it for real. she does it live too.
I had to watch your reaction to this one when I saw it here. First reactions to Pisces are always fun! I almost thought you were going to spoil the surprise when you paused right as the song changed, but you restarted and definitely got the shock everyone was expecting. Tatiana is really great. I don't listen to much metal, but performances like this one are slowly pulling me in.
OH MY GOD Absolutely love this reaction can see your passion and excitement the entire time, thanks for this!!!
Thanks 😊
@@TheMuserResolute Holy crap and stayed true to the word about reading comments easy sub! Cant wait for the next one
I really appreciate your reaction/response to this performance!! 🙌💣🔥I've watched hella reaction videos of this song ((from vocalists and otherwise)) & you've brought up a bunch of different points to focus on ((ex::Tatiana's vocal doubling effect)) that I had never realized/recognized &/or consciously distinguished before.
Your facial expressions are sooo on point too!! Your reaction is exactly how I feel inside even still today after hearing it probably like 6937284 times haha 😝😁
In conclusion, you definitely got me as a new subscriber 😌
Thanks for the awesome video!! 🤘💯
Congrats! You have given this incredible song the best reaction with intelligent commentary over the countless other reaction videos. Thank you.
Watching the reactions to this video has become my quarantine guilty pleasure (I’ve seriously watched a hundred of them). Everyone comments the same that knows Jinjer, but it’s the calmness that pulls people in and then hit with the surprising death growls. This song is also old and was recorded with their old drummer, who was good but didn’t have the technical prowess that Vlad has...he completely changed the dynamics of most of the song. They’ve actually mentioned doing this version to have a recorded version with Vlad’s drumming. Also, I’d imagine her layered vocals are from the original recording.
Loved your reaction, subscribed...welcome to the new world of metal!!! I'm sure you'll have plenty of Jinjer recommendations coming, but stick to live where mentioned. Hope to watch again soon!
Metal Head and first time viewer. Very pleased with OP and his genuine reactions. Always makes me smile when people show love for an under appreciated genre like metal
I can't wait to see them live here in Costa Rica, in December 🖤🖤🖤 one of the most original bands ever... They are all amazing.. I love ur reactions!!! Big fan now
Dude, awesome, nice to see a reaction where you can pick out, analyze, and appreciate the compositional technicality’s if this band! Rock on, welcome to #jinjerarmy
Btw, (drummer here) those multiple light snare hits you are trying to described can be considered “ghost notes”
"Perennial" Live at Wacken! You will not be disappointed! Her live vocals are every bit as powerful and deep!
Jinjer is rapidly growing in popularity with a big help from reactions such as yours. They did their first US headlining tour last year and i was fortunate enough to see them live. It was phenomenal. Keep diving down the rabbit hole, they are one of kind and will blow your mind.
You’re the best music teacher reacts channel for sure.
This drummer is amazing.
You can hear a real difference between the studio version on the album (old drummer), and his work here. IIRC this was his first time playing with them after officially joining the band.
Loved this reaction. Subscribed.
you just listened to the best band in the world..best drummer ever and tatianna has an insane vocal..yes the growl vocal is all her no pedals..seen them 4 times now and always blown away ...