*Fun fact:* Speaking of the Legends Duel on Tantiss, Luke's clone, Luuke, reappeared many years later in a short story written by Timothy Zahn, called "An Apology", in which it is revealed that Mara Jade accidentally killed the original Luke, being the Skywalker we saw from that moment on the clone usurping the original and working for Thrawn until the latter replaced him with another clone called Luuuke. It was published on April Fool's Day, by the way.
Thats what happens in Disney Canon which explains why Luuke ran away to die and gave up on Han and Leia because he didn't really care about them or the Republic!
I think the most chilling thing about Thrawn's clones was the fact that Luke described them as feeling cold and mechanical in the force, despite being living beings.
4:15 Jorus C'Baoth is a great example of how much the Legends authors cared about continuity. The Thrawn books from the 90's mention he was part of the by then not explored old Jedi Order, so, once the prequels came out and finally explored this Era, he was introduced in the Episode I adventure books, not to mention he later got cameos in the "Cloak of Deception" and "Darth Plagueis" novel and even the role of main antagonist in the "Outbound Flight" book. Legends TRULY had continuity
Outbound Flight might be my favorite Zahn book to be honest, maybe second to Vision of the Future. The EU really was a true expanded universe/continuity that so many people today are ignorant of besides maybe the Thrawn Trilogy. Saying this as a younger fan in his early 20s who grew up with TCW (which retconned/ignored a lot of the EU's original CW comics, books and other content).
@@John316_Acts2True, but even the good stuff end up becoming hard to read when they start connecting themselves to storytelling duds like the Sequels and The Book of Boba Fett.
Found your channel from the Tapcaf podcasts on the Thrawn Trilogy and Duology. Also really liked your video talking about Zahn and Post 9/11 America. Enjoying these concise dives into legends
I’m surprised that droid armies and droid crewed ships didn’t appear more. Even with, or especially because of the push towards atomization in the post-Endor era, you’d think the Imperial Remnant or New Republic would invest in droid technology to expand their operations and more effectively organize their personnel.
This explanation has been done to death, but the seppie one really soured the galaxy to the idea. And since almost every significant faction in the period is a republic successor/splinter, both the establishment and populace altogether weren't terribly fond of the idea, to say the least.
I mean why manufacture, power, and equip a battle droid when you could just equip an existing person. I don’t think it’s too hard to believe that people are actually more expendable than droids that cost money to build
One thing which bothered me that it was never addressed after the Thrawn trilogy is that after the destruction of the clone facility many already created clones of popular imperials like Veers still exist in the galaxy.
Thrawn’s clone army was the most terrifying and dangerous to ever hatch its way onto the Galactic stage. Due to how quickly it could be grown and how it made use of a whole host of templates to clone from, making it super deadly and efficient. If the coining centre hadn’t been destroyed concurrently with Thrawn being assassinated the empire would have eventually won the war due to having an unstoppable army and navy of massive numbers and ships that could overwhelm the new republic and its forces, no Matter what they did to counter them.
No matter how hard they try, the cloners and clones of the future eras of Star Wars will never be able to replicate what the Kaminoans and Jango Fett did many long and obscure years ago. Should have cloned Maarek Stele instead of Soontir Fel though.
As someone who disagrees with a lot of your takes on Star Wars (Not a fan of LOTF and very negative on most Disney Star Wars) I would like to say I am still subscribed and I listen to your takes and lore videos regardless.
8:30 This art about the Yuuzhan Vong Wars by Chris Scalf is one of my favorites in all Star Wars. Watching it by first tine after suffering the sequel trilogy absolutely blew my mind. It was a that moment I realized that the Star Wars Legends lore has the creativity and epicness that Disney didn't dare to include in their trilogy
@@christophernemeth421 Are there storys/books about it? would love to read them, he was always one of my favourits, but i know little about his early career :D
*Fun fact:* Speaking of the Legends Duel on Tantiss, Luke's clone, Luuke, reappeared many years later in a short story written by Timothy Zahn, called "An Apology", in which it is revealed that Mara Jade accidentally killed the original Luke, being the Skywalker we saw from that moment on the clone usurping the original and working for Thrawn until the latter replaced him with another clone called Luuuke.
It was published on April Fool's Day, by the way.
That should be canon in a parallel Legends universe.
Thats what happens in Disney Canon which explains why Luuke ran away to die and gave up on Han and Leia because he didn't really care about them or the Republic!
I think the most chilling thing about Thrawn's clones was the fact that Luke described them as feeling cold and mechanical in the force, despite being living beings.
They're still people, even if mostly expendable in Legends.
The use of clones in SW legend's was always interesting.
4:15
Jorus C'Baoth is a great example of how much the Legends authors cared about continuity. The Thrawn books from the 90's mention he was part of the by then not explored old Jedi Order, so, once the prequels came out and finally explored this Era, he was introduced in the Episode I adventure books, not to mention he later got cameos in the "Cloak of Deception" and "Darth Plagueis" novel and even the role of main antagonist in the "Outbound Flight" book.
Legends TRULY had continuity
Outbound Flight might be my favorite Zahn book to be honest, maybe second to Vision of the Future. The EU really was a true expanded universe/continuity that so many people today are ignorant of besides maybe the Thrawn Trilogy. Saying this as a younger fan in his early 20s who grew up with TCW (which retconned/ignored a lot of the EU's original CW comics, books and other content).
@@John316_Acts2True, but even the good stuff end up becoming hard to read when they start connecting themselves to storytelling duds like the Sequels and The Book of Boba Fett.
james luceno is probably the best star wars author with continuity and trying to tie the most things in together
Found your channel from the Tapcaf podcasts on the Thrawn Trilogy and Duology. Also really liked your video talking about Zahn and Post 9/11 America. Enjoying these concise dives into legends
I’m surprised that droid armies and droid crewed ships didn’t appear more. Even with, or especially because of the push towards atomization in the post-Endor era, you’d think the Imperial Remnant or New Republic would invest in droid technology to expand their operations and more effectively organize their personnel.
This explanation has been done to death, but the seppie one really soured the galaxy to the idea. And since almost every significant faction in the period is a republic successor/splinter, both the establishment and populace altogether weren't terribly fond of the idea, to say the least.
I mean why manufacture, power, and equip a battle droid when you could just equip an existing person. I don’t think it’s too hard to believe that people are actually more expendable than droids that cost money to build
2:30 this bit killed me, Corey
I would clone myself 200.000 times (with a million more on the way) just to tell them to subscribe
It would be cool if they brought back the Spaarti Clone Stormtroopers, but based off of the Fett genetic template.
When Banthas fly of course.
Late clone wars clones of fett were starting clones
One thing which bothered me that it was never addressed after the Thrawn trilogy is that after the destruction of the clone facility many already created clones of popular imperials like Veers still exist in the galaxy.
A golden opportunity that disappeared among many.
Perhaps there should be a Clone Saga… Just kidding.
Great work mar!
Thrawn’s clone army was the most terrifying and dangerous to ever hatch its way onto the Galactic stage. Due to how quickly it could be grown and how it made use of a whole host of templates to clone from, making it super deadly and efficient.
If the coining centre hadn’t been destroyed concurrently with Thrawn being assassinated the empire would have eventually won the war due to having an unstoppable army and navy of massive numbers and ships that could overwhelm the new republic and its forces, no Matter what they did to counter them.
No matter how hard they try, the cloners and clones of the future eras of Star Wars will never be able to replicate what the Kaminoans and Jango Fett did many long and obscure years ago.
Should have cloned Maarek Stele instead of Soontir Fel though.
As someone who disagrees with a lot of your takes on Star Wars (Not a fan of LOTF and very negative on most Disney Star Wars) I would like to say I am still subscribed and I listen to your takes and lore videos regardless.
I just want Mace Windu's hand to be in one of those tanks in Bad Batch or for Hemlock to take that glove off and it's Windu's hand lol.
Commenting for engagement, you've got a unique channel and I want it sticking around
8:30 This art about the Yuuzhan Vong Wars by Chris Scalf is one of my favorites in all Star Wars. Watching it by first tine after suffering the sequel trilogy absolutely blew my mind. It was a that moment I realized that the Star Wars Legends lore has the creativity and epicness that Disney didn't dare to include in their trilogy
How long do u think until u reach the vong arc
what is a veers clone useful for? sure, military genius, but the real veers was still alive and how many generals do you need? :D
Propaganda?
He was a very capable soldier when he was younger.
@@christophernemeth421 Are there storys/books about it? would love to read them, he was always one of my favourits, but i know little about his early career :D
More proof Legends > Great Horned Mickey
Please stop scapegoating the poor guy. He's as much a victim as we are.
Elaborate please
Clone Wars pre-prequels just always seems funny to me.