My Thoughts on Art School as a Self-Taught Painter
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- In this video we have a nice chat about art school while I paint some roses. It’s cozy, it’s filled with opinions and who knows, maybe you’ll like it.
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I left my regular job in 2002 aged 32 and became a self employed artist. Prior to that I just painted in my spare time with no previous art school training. When I left my job I spent my first two years as an airbrush artist, I hadn't even used a paintbrush. But after 2 years of airbrushing I got bored and decided I wanted to paint in oils. So one day I put all my airbrush gear away and went out and purchased some oil paints. For the last 20 years I've just painted in oils, completely self taught and now one of the top selling artists in the UK. 😊
Your art is beautiful and so unique. Such an inspiration!
That's awesome Paul, you're work is beautiful! I'm happy you found your way to it 😊
Nice artwork Paul. Your colour work Reminds me of.. a *tellytubbies landscape* (a 1990s TV show with hyper coloured vistas) .
Very inspiring. Quit my jog in August 2022 doing something else for awhile all while painting and learning. Hope to one day be a top selling artist in Canada one day. :)
oh wow, I saw your work on my Highstreet in one of the galleries! it's crazy how good your paintings look, super unique as well!
I was a "self taught artist" for many years. I always wanted to go to college but never had the opportunity in my youth. Then, in middle age, I went to a state university. With scholarships and grants for low income students, my tuition was free. It was four years of hard work, but it was amazing and I loved every minute of it. I got to work with hot glass, bronze, ceramics, wood, and all kinds of tools and equipment and space that I would never have access to on my own. And the classes really broadened my mind and horizons. The problem with being self-taught and self-motivated is that you won't push yourself to do things you aren't really enthusiastic about...and enthusiasm is fleeting. Academia taught me discipline, to put in the work every day, to find something interesting even in a class or topic that wasn't my favorite. Being in a the same physical space with other artists, being inspired by them, watching them solve problems, learning from each other - there's no experience like it. I look back on those years when I thought I could educate myself and regret that I didn't go to university sooner. I grew so much because they pushed me. I met so many amazing people who I'm still friends with. I even have contacts within the industry. And none of it cost me a cent. Heckin' state universities for the win, my friends.
I went to art school in Scotland. Back in the days when it was fully funded, imagine that! 4 amazing years. I think the myth is that they teach you art/or how to paint at art school, where it is in fact a space for you to follow your own creative path, grow as an artist surrounded by creative people and have use of brilliant facilities and studios. Best thing I ever did :-)
Hi Brooke,
I am 24 years old and was homeschooled from 7th-12th grade. I was very blessed to have supportive parents who encouraged my love for art, however, we were low income so I was predominantly self taught (with aid from TH-cam). I decided to attend university in pursuit of a bachelors degree in fine art. I personally suffered for it and nearly gave up on Art entirely. In the summer of 2023, I pursued a full time career in government and in doing so, I found my love and passion for art once again. I am now working full time in my career while working as a fine art painter again. Ironically, despite working more now than I ever have, I found freedom in working a career unrelated to art first. My job allowed me to re-evaluate my true passion and it helped me to create an art environment that I love. My stable income from my job has also allowed me to work on Art that I want to create rather than being forced into a branch of art that I despise but must do out of need for a stable income. I am now in the process of rebuilding my art persona and business in the direction I want it to go.
While I do not discourage Art school, it was not a good decision for me personally. I have benefited far more from working a job unrelated to art and doing art I love on the side. Because I am still young and in love with art, I hope that with this healthy and steady development, I will be able to one day quit my day job and focus on my fine art full time.
I'm a self taught artist. I've been painting for around 2 years and learned most of my info from doing master copies. One MAJOR thing that is over looked about art school is the social aspect. I'm a highly competitive person, with the ability to pick up things fairly quickly. With that being said when your around other people they can push you in ways you never thought were possible. If I didn't attend my weekly life drawing studies I would have never have seen how truly talented people are and know that it is possible. I know it's long winded, but having peers trying to achieve the same goal seems extremely under rated.
That's a really good point! Thanks for sharing 🙏
I would personally love a video about marketing strategies for new artists. Where to start, how you get your art out there etc. Social media seems to be getting harder and harder and I don't want to fall into the trap of making mindless useless reels because that's what the social media gods require😂. I want to create and find a community of people who can resonate with my art
Noted! I think marketing is something a lot of artists struggle with and I'm actually working on some resources to help for next year! Thanks for watching :)
I’m 63 and have been painting over 20 years. I had no formal training. I now host paint and sips and love it. I never felt a drive to sell my art work. Thanks for sharing.
I don’t regret the time I went to art school, but I get asked about art school at almost every show I do. I tell them all the same thing: it’s not exactly necessary to go to an art school. Go to a state school or community college if you need to. I’d say if you don’t get a decent scholarship to an art school, don’t go. The one thing they can’t teach you is the hustle. If you don’t have the drive, take the $150k and throw it into a shredder. The success rate is so stupid low. In my class, maybe had a 15% success rate.
Drive is SO important... and to think about what a person could accomplish with that and putting 150k towards building their business instead, sheesh!
15%... that's high!...I did illustration, maybe one person actually made a living out of it, and he was supported by his partner so never had to work in other jobs during the lean times. The only people who I know who have benefited through art school ended up teaching art. I only borrowed 6k in the UK so it was totally worth it back then, but leaving with a 50k plus debt today... no way, I wouldn't go.
I am 70 years old and started to paint with watercolours about 3-4 years ago. I have had no formal training just watched videos on youtube and had some help from my son who also paints watercolour paintings. My struggle is that I am a very beginner and the "I'm not good enough" attitude. I did try an art class spring but to be honest it was a "copy the insturctor's painting style" class and I did not find it helpful but mainly discouraging. I resulted in me not painting at all for several months. I feel the call to try again and see if I can even earn a living or at least supplement my income by selling my art. Your video interview with Kelsey Rodriquez was very informative. I hope to have the courage to start painting again soon and develop the love of painting that is stirring within me. Thanks again for your video
Growing pains go on forever in art that's what I have found. I have been on both sides of this self-taught idea which is pretty much what I have been my whole life only to be hired to teach in my fifties as an adjunct professor in an art school and that I feared I had nothing to say and then surprisingly found that I did have something to say. I thought I would give it a try for several years and had success as a teacher but something was missing and that was exploration of my own art. I then stopped teaching. Creating art is a very solitary experience because the answers to solving anything is within oneself. I love what you said about finding who are the artists you most would want to be like and work like and after years of drawing and painting then things start to click and there's no way any art school in a four year period can bring that to fruition. It's really on each of us to teach ourselves in succeeding and failing. You have to have that passion and live art each day. It's really unlike any field of study and on top of that we evolve and change directions. It's a constant reevaluation and nothing brings more joy than feeling at peace with one's art. I like so much about your saying in your videos.
If I were born again I would study Fine Arts again (I studied in Madrid), I was happy at the University, I learned a lot and the atmosphere among artists, with your same concerns, is magnificent. I learned a lot of technique and a very solid drawing base. I recommend it
I began as a self-taught artist, and lived off of painting and merchandise sales, but felt something sort of itchy in my creative life. I knew I needed help to go further. I enrolled in a post-bacc portfolio program, and for $1,000 per semester for one year I had full access to painting department at Kansas State University. From there I got into their fully funded MFA program. I have a studio and food in my belly, without having to do the soul crushing grind of selling my weird art to people. For me, getting paid to teach art to college students for a few hours a week, and having the rest of my time to make WHATEVER kind of art I want, not just marketable art, is the best trade off I could find.
In high school, I was too insecure to say I wanted to become an artist because I was convinced by my parents that I could only be a ‘starving artist.’ I was pushed to become a really rich surgeon. Did I ever have any interest in medicine before? No. But because of the money and validation I got from others, I felt like I needed to become a surgeon no matter what.
One major thyroid disease that disabled me later, I realized that it was going to stop me from becoming a surgeon. And I am so happy it did. At 23, I decided that school is way too much for me mentally, physically and financially. I am full-assing art on my own, and have made so much progress.
For me, school is so overwhelming that I could barely work on homework for 30 minutes at a time. But I can paint up to 5 hours at a time.
I think what I went through really shows how different life is for everyone. For others, school is the thing that improves their art skills and life the most. For me, it was far too stressful. And deciding to not attend school actually helped me improve my craft much more than attending it ever would.
Lovely painting and great video
Enjoyed your two cents worth Brooke, so many different roads and paths to get there for sure. Keep these great vids of yours coming.
Wonderful video and such lovely advice, stories, and wisdom. Thank you !
I went to art school & after graduation 3 of us got to work with respected artists, the rest of the 22 students dropped out and last I heard were working regular jobs. Im asked why only 3 well we were slightly older and not straight from high school we had worked jobs and got a taste of a working life. I guess we were driven to succeed by the work ethic we had. It was important for us to work part time in professional practicing earning studios/businesses while in our 3/4th final years. I was taught to believe in persistence & dedication, aim high, make it happen & your only as good as your last sold work. University was great for learning the principles, methods & basic rules (foundation steps) The teachers were all practicing professionals not full time teachers they were still taking on commissions whilst teaching. I have traveled the world professionally for 45 years and now Im back to my first love of painting for myself, for my joy, my creative play. Dreams only come true to those that make them happen for the right reasons 👍
Thank You, You are entertaining and fun to watch not to mention your valuable insight!
Thank you for this video! Glad your channel popped up in my feed. Love your art and your energy. :)
Hello Brooke! I found your TH-cam and Instagram account this past summer, and I am beyond thankful for all that you share. It is quite authentic and very encouraging to see the beauty of your life as an artist and all that you go through (the good and the not so good).
I went to a fine art school for two years, and this past spring, I left to pursue my career as an artist. And now I am in my studio full time, and I enjoy it greatly, but I am still adjusting (especially mentally). Thank you again for sharing and all that you do. Keep up that incredible work of yours, Brooke!!! You are in my thoughts and prayers 💛
You are such a kind talented soul. I find so much comfort in your artwork and channel ❤ I am an aspiring artist who has just finished a masters in architecture. Our work was picked apart all the time and caused so many people to give up their creative passions. But finding people who truly inspire and encourage you is the key to unlocking your artistic potential - could not agree more.
Thank you for being an inspiration to this world✨what you are encouraging is beautiful✨💗
You are definitely my future goal as an artist. As a 27 years old immigrant to United States, I'm currently not permitted to work and my concerns for not being able to help my husband financially is such a mental destroyer. While my husband has been supportive, I do not want to depend and bother on someone I love to pursue my own passion (financially). Since we also want to welcome a child someday but not so far in the future, aging really make me lose my hope for what I want to do as one individual living in this era. Thank you for giving me hope and showed us your work. This video actually made me cry lol Such a beautiful and inspiring art ♡
I truly wish you the best on this journey and I'm so happy to hear you found encouragement in the message of this video 💛 stay creative!
@@b.cormier Aw, thank you for taking your time to comment for this. Have a fantastic lovely day ❤️
Great video as always, brooke! The painting videos with commentary is always so soothing
Thanks a lot! I'm glad you liked it ☺
I love your videos, this is a subject I've always been debating and I love your thoughts on this! Thanks as always!
I'm happy to hear that, thank you! 🙏
Thanks for the very real advice and demonstration!
Yes! I agree with this. I wanted to go to art school when I was younger but was discouraged due to the starving artist mentality as well. Three years ago I started daily painting and am now self taught and have learned so much just from exploring. I would love to find a mentor for both the art side and business side as I want to actually make this a business. Thanks for the video!
Happy to hear you're back at it! I wish you all the best on your art journey and thank you for watching my video 🤗
Having a mentor has always been the way for painters. I'm very old now and want to start painting something I gave up to have a job and raise my children and care for my parents. You are a true inspiration ❤️ being so young and following your dream and making it happen by yourself. I wish you luck.
I love the enthusiasm. Thank you, changed my frequency to a laugh and a smile. 😊
Happy to hear it 🤗
I found doing some small workshops with a professional artist to be helpful with my progression. An encouraging rather than critical environment helps.
I totally agree ❤ I’m a fulltime self taught artist as well. Lovely video, as always :)!
Love your work ❤.
Beautiful roses 🌹
Comforting and assuring word to word. It is like you spoke for me word to word. Thank you
Thank you for watching 🤗
💜 I loved hearing your take on this! I went to school for art + photography and got a 2 year degree and I would say I don't necessarily regret the decision... HOWEVER it wasn't totally necessary either. I would have benefited from business courses more so than art courses I think. Some of my art professors were wonderfully supportive and helped me grow as an artist and then there were the stinkers. The ones that made me feel less than and "over-critiqued" which then dimmed my spirits and made me second-guess everything I ever made. We also had to constantly critique each other's paintings in a public forum... which can be such an uncomfortable experience for all involved. Yes, maybe it helped thicken some people's skin and helped them approach their work differently... but also it probably hurt more than it helped for a lot of art students who lacked confidence in the first place. I don't know, Brooke!!!! This is hard to articulate! 😅 I completely agree with the thought that it would be more valuable to pay money to the expert you love and want to emulate... than THOUSANDS to a group of people who may or may not be the right fit. Wow, I'm rambling. All this to say - loved this video and hearing your thoughts and experience! 💜
Thank you Brooke. Great insight.
Hello from England🙋♀️ Just discovered your channel and Have to say, you certainly inspire me to want to pick up a brush and paint💃Your paintings are beautiful 👌
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it ☺
Thanks for the message ❤ I don’t regret not attending art school😊
❤❤❤awesome❤❤thank you❤❤❤
I just really enjoy watching your painting process. I would love to hear about how your particular style evolved, and maybe some tips you have for painting, or creating sources, what sells, etc. Thanks, Brooke! Your roses look so good I could smell them! 🙂 (And yes, The Artist's Way is a really good book. I've been doing Morning Pages off and on for decades. Yes... I'm THAT old...)
Thanks a lot Janina! Glad you liked the video and I'll keep those topics in mind for future videos 🤗
Yep. Trudat about school. I enjoyed watching you paint!
Thank you! 🤗
Your channel is really an inspiration, thanks for sharing
Thank you so much! I really appreciate it 🙏☺️
I have a bachelor’s degree in fine art focused on studio…
Honestly, the benefits that I got from it were accidental/well timed. The few years I went to this college was timed perfectly with a gathering of some artists I admired the skill of (and yes, I end my sentences with prepositions). All of the professors showed us the skills we needed to create, be creative, and the importance of community. They thickened our metaphorical skin through critiques. They tried passing on knowledge of how to sell art or get a job.
However, if I could do things differently. I would do a workshop approach paired with a mentorship like mentioned in the video. I have been out of school for 10 years and have very little to show for this. My art business has done more this year than all those other years combined (still not a lot). I am at a spot where I am stumbling through this finding when, where and how to sell art. Most of this part that I’ve learn is from TH-cam or finding an art community to discuss it.
So, I personally liked my school experience. It’s nothing to lord over anyone. Master painters in the past did mentorships to produce other great artist. So, I don’t think it’s necessary but I’ve got friends that I talk to and get to see their art from that time. Oh and plenty of fun memories being in a room full of like minded (as in focused on art) people. My art degree does not make me a better artist, in fact I know plenty of better artists without a degree. It’s your ambition/drive to be better. Always find the next thing to focus on and do it better than YOU did it before.
Thanks for sharing, this was very insightful! I'm glad to hear that despite it not catapulting your career, art school was still a positive experience for you, that has a lot of value in itself. Wishing you the best of luck with your art and thank you for watching the video!
Your thoughts on this were insightful! I’ve always loved and excelled at art but also was discouraged from pursuing it as a career. I took a couple painting classes in college as electives for my psychology degree, and they gave me so much helpful instruction for how to paint with oils. I wish I could have taken more classes. Now after having kids, I’m considering diving into art professionally, but feel like I’m at a disadvantage for not having more formal instruction. Your perspective is encouraging!
Thanks for watching Brianna! I see how it feels like a disadvantage, but like me, there are SO many artists out there who have successfully followed their passions without an art degree, so I'm glad that this feels encouraging for you, and I wish you all the best on your artistic journey and happy painting! 🤗
I started painting a few years just for the fun of it, though I've always had an interest in creating art. A couple of years in I discovered the Milan Art Institute's online "Mastery Program." It promised a lot, which I was a bit dubious about. But so far it's been working out. I have learned how to paint with oil using techniques of the old Masters, and drawing, and mixed media, and within about 5 months of starting the program (designed to take a year to complete, but you have it for life) I sold several of my student paintings and drawings that I had done as assignments. Yeah, I was pretty surprised. I'm still doing the course, which is designed to end up with you having a professional portfolio and a website, and I'm really happy I took the leap. (And no, I don't get a free anything, or money, for saying this!)
i too was one who kept getting exceeding in art class in yr 7 to 9 but didnt like it in class, i came 3rd place to allow my art to get onto an online art gallery we had to do this in yr 8 class, I quit doing it for 8 yrs outside of class, i wasnt bothered as i lost interested in it, but i am back now & feel a shift of entertainment in it again, I am self taught, imo i think its better self taught as you get to do what you want rather than nagged, plus an insider if you want to work from imagination imo is 'to do meditation its worked for me & has helped me develop images of art from imagination & put it onto paper'. So for those of you who believe they have to do it to get better I agree with brooke. Though, imo staying busy with your practice helps your focus rise exponentially meaning, increased productivity i have found & can really help you out if you are self taught. This was just an insight on what you can achieve as a self taught artist.
I love everything about this video. Thanks for taking the time to do it✨️
If possible, I'm curious to see the "technical" part of painting. I'm also self-taught and I wonder if my color palette is the right one, or how to mix the colors properly, the consistency of the oil paint when mixed, mediums, that kind of stuff could be helpful to know from someone like you!
You said "right one" and "properly" -- that's not a thing in art, it really isn't. It's a creative expression and play, unique to each artist, only you can decide what colours you like, what feels harmonious and what feels clashy, etc. What other people say really doesn't matter that much, unless you want your art to look like theirs (in which case you're just a technician copying their work, not an artist with your own voice and vision). Just play, you'll learn what you like, there are no "fast" ways to figure that out. Spend the time and play with your materials, like some brands of oil paint (particularly water soluble) feel different, but only you can figure out what you actually like, how you like to apply it (brushes and what types, or sticks, or palette knives, or putty knives, or bits of plastic scrapers, etc). Find your own "rules" by playing and paying attention to what you like, and practice practice practice. 😊
Great video, and beautiful work! I went to school for industrial design and I don't regret it. Still, everyone needs a few mentors who are already at the point you're working to get to. School teaches you theory, but mentors teach you, hands-on, how they did what you're trying to do. I don't know if you need a degree if you have a good mentor or two, put in the hours, stay humble, and keep picking yourself up when you fall.
I would love to talk about my art school experience vs now as a full time artist more or less! I've grown up drawing and started painting when I took a private art class when I was younger, and my parents enrolled me in that because they could see I craved something a little more involved than just basic school art classes and that I wanted to learn more from professionals, and be around other artists! I definitely noticed a huge difference between the basic art classes in public school vs something more formal as an aspiring young artist who wanted to be challenged and taught more. During my senior year of high school, I feel like it was more "the norm" to go to college back then in 2015 than it is now, so I wanted to go, and applied to only art schools. I wanted to do something I was very passionate about and luckily my parents were very supportive of that.
For me art school was great, it was great to be amongst many other students with more or less the same goals, the same creative mindsets, and I made sure to choose an art school that was right for me. Where I chose, offers required internships to help their students get out in the creative career world, network and meet professionals. I loved being able to meet and have conversations with various successful artists of all kinds, museum directors, creative writers, directors etc. So networking was huge for me! Something else art school was also great for me for was enhancing my confidence and social skills. I chose a school that was relatively small, so my voice and work could be seen and heard. The difference in my confidence and social skills vs what it was in high school you wouldn't even think I was the same person lol. And for me the formal technical training I had was very beneficial. I had some extremely talented and smart professors who I owe a lot of my skills to now. I especially love the advanced life drawing classes I took, some for 8 hours a day, which I owe almost all of my successful proportion drawing to! Same with some color theory and composition classes that really helped me improve.
I of course I owe a lot of my success to my determination and motivation to keep going as well, because I know many classmates of mine who just gave up after college.
I LOVE your work and would love to chat with you about this if you decide to do a part 2 of this video! :)
Thanks so much for sharing your story Ashley! I appreciate your insight, as I'm sure others will too. I'm glad that art school was beneficial to you and was overall a positive experience, that's amazing! I'll definitely keep you in mind for a part 2 in the future :) Happy painting!
Brooke your mesmerising great opinion good video
Wow! What a talent. I will be following you. Not in a creepy way. I feel a lot of wisdom for a young woman. I am an old woman, who did not go to art school but have created since I was a small girl. The Artist Way is one of my favorite books. I think I need to go back and read it again. I was not mentored by any teachers I had in high school, hence I graduated with a social work degree and now am a Mortgage Loan Officer. Makes sense, right? But I’m finally, getting. Out of my own way, and am starting to create regularly and sell my art as my side hustle. I look forward to watching and learning from you as well as others who inspire me. I don’t know why it has taken me so long to get here, but I’m here.
It’s refreshing to see you be deeply evolved in your artist self at your age. 🙏 thank you.
Thanks a lot Tina! I appreciate your words and it's awesome that you're getting back into creating. It's better late than never! 🙌
Things are never necessary but can be fun. I loved art school and got so much out of it but a self directed artist can do as well on their own. The self directed art students in school do the best too. The thing is to keep an open mind and follow your bliss. And it depends on the school no doubt. I love that we had art sales to help pay our way to major museums around the world and the friendships were wonderful. It’s lovely to be around kindred spirits but as one old theatre teacher shouted out to me “it’s just you and the easel!” It made me laugh anyway but it’s true our greatest guidance is within.
fantastic video, so many good points too ❤❤❤
Thank you Chantelle! 🤗
love this video! I couldn't agree more with you! It's definitely possible to become a full-time artist and not go to art school. It takes consistency and hard work to build up a successful art career
Amen! Thanks a lot Rosie 😊
Hey Brooke, could you possibly do a video on shadow tones and mid tones? If you are painting green leaves, do you make the shadow colour from the already mixed up green you made. Or do you make up a separate batch of colour for the shadows of the leaf. Hope this makes sense. Haha
This may not be helpful but as far as video ideas I’ve loved everything you’ve done in the past year. Anything you’re feeling inspired to create I’m positive will be fantastic. The variety of your videos like the jewelry and gardening was so fun, chatting about artist life is interesting and of course your painting content (the mushrooms!) is always stunning. I’m just grateful I get to enjoy your work. Thanks for sharing Brooke! ❤
Thanks so much Christine, I really appreciate your encouragement! 💛
Great video! I’m self taught and currently in the building stage of my art career. My tactic is to just get my art out there as much as possible, get as much exposure as possible and take advantage of every opportunity to show my art. Being a stay at home mom also I am not able to dedicate a full time schedule to creating but I utilize every moment I can. Where there is a will there is a way! Thankfully my medium of choice is watercolor so I can finish a painting in a couple hours 😊
Where there is a will there is a way! Sounds like you're on the right track Stephanie, happy painting and thanks for watching! 🤗
Well done. thank you again. It took a while to watch because of the latest TH-cam block for peeps using adblocker (that´s me) thing. But I fixed it. You are a great inspiration. Cant say that I am keen on starting on Instagram. Methinks I will focus on Fb. Pinterest and those blessed TH-cam folks, to get my art out there - so I would value all you have to share on going about that. Kind regards from Mexico.
this is good stuff! I’m in college for a bachelors in graphic design but even in this field you don’t need to have a degree to create cool and creative projects. It’s more of an extension on how to do so professionally and technically
Thanks! Everything is a learning experience so soak up all that you can, and best of luck! 🤗
Hey Brook, i absolutely adore your art work and enjoy your videos, very informative. I was wondering how you do your prints.
Great video with thought provoking insights! I have only been painting since late January and am doing it purely as a hobby, and having a lot of fun in the process. Never actually considered making any money doing this until last week when someone offered to buy one of my paintings. A few seconds after the shock wore off and I regained consciousness, I had to inform the prospective buyer that the painting was promised to a family member so unfortunately, no sale. It did get me thinking about possibly selling my artwork even just to help offset some of the costs associated with doing this hobby, so who knows? I suppose that's a very small example of the fact that sometimes you don't necessarily need formal training to create something people like and would want to own. Just like every piece of art, every artist is unique, so some will benefit and gravitate towards formal training, and others that are so very talented as yourself may not want or need to. For me, the challenge of learning and figuring things out on my own (with the help of many youtube videos) is a big part of the fun I'm having while doing this. So anyway, sorry for the novel, and thanks again for your perspective. And your latest piece is absolutely beautiful, and fully displays the depth of your talent! You truly have a God-given gift.
Thanks for your thoughts Bob, and congrats on getting interested buyers - that's awesome! All the best and happy painting 🤗
hello ! Thank you for this video Brooke Cormier! I love the quality of the video; did you do the filming and editing or is it all shopify ? Thank you
Your painting is so beautiful 😭
Thank you!!
I went to college and earned a general AA. It’s not in art persé. I took one art class. It was a drawing class. I don’t remember what it was cashed. It was basically perspective drawing. It’s from that class I took 7 ish years ago I am learning more now that art is where I want to go. I am now a novice sculptor. Now I’m learning from many different artists such as yourself. I’m searching out videos such as this. I am learning on my own not but not completely. As I just stated I’m learning from many different artists, from the art its self to strategies. I once thought that a degree in art would be necessary to have an artistic career. I have learned that isn’t the case. I’m being more inspired to get into my hobby with hopes of making a career of it. Great video. Thank you for sharing.
This question makes me feel so torn because I am an artist who went to art school, absolutely loved it, but also would encourage those who want to be artists to not go. It was such a blessing for me, I went to Pratt in NYC and graduated debt free. Growing up in a small town, moving to a city was my dream, so getting to be there learning and experiencing a whole new place is something I’ll be grateful for forever. However, I wasn’t encouraged to go for art, so I actually went for graphic design because it was more “promising” as a career. It’s been 8 years since I’ve graduated and I can tell you that every art commission and client project I’ve ever worked on had nothing to do with my art school knowledge.
I’d say if you want the enriching and fun experience, do it. But if you don’t and are disciplined and willing to work hard, save your money (unless you get a full ride or something) and invest in yourself!
P.s. I’m a self taught fashion and floral illustrator and I taught myself watercolor while in art school instead of working on design hw 😅
Hi! I just wanted to say a quick thank you for all the videos you post! They are so helpful and inspiring 😊 Also I love your art!! ❤
Awe that means a lot! I really appreciate it 💛
Very inspiring. Thank you.
Thank you for watching! ☺
Coming from someone who went to art school, it's a waste of time, like college in general. I was very limited in what was taught. In the painting classes, they only taught oil painting and not acrylic. It wasn't allowed! In the drawing classes, we only ever used the 6B pencil and charcoal and nothing else. Not to mention the teacher said you can't blend graphite which is just false! The only class I found helpful was the final class, portfolio which prepared us for exhibitions, pricing, artist statements, resumes, etc. Now I'm not saying I didn't have fun in art school because I very much did. I even sold a painting to a classmate. I'm just speaking from how we were taught
I went to a craft/art/design school in New Zealand (that's what the program was called), it wasn't an official degree program as then they'd have to add in a bunch of filler junk classes to meet the "mandates" of offering a degree (rather than just teaching about art). It was fantastic, but it was because it was a small school, very focused on Polynesian influences, and also very mixed media (we learned pottery, drawing, painting, textile art, fibre arts like papermaking and bookbinding, printmaking, traditional weaving and carving, jewellery, woodworking, all sorts of stuff -- just not glass, we didn't have a glass blowing studio). So it was much more hands on than a traditional art school, and farrrr less focused on post-modernist garbage and conceptual work. They really tried to instill in us that our jobs (if we wanted it) was to sell our art, often by making multiples of smaller or more accessible pieces so we could spend time and energy on bigger and more experimental work. There was none of this "selling out" lunacy you see taught in many traditional art schools -- unless you're going to become an expert on grant writing, how else are you supposed to support yourself as an artist other than by selling your work. I think anyone assuming traditional (or even non-traditional like me) education will lead to sales and a career as a "successful" artist is seriously mistaken, there is no correlation from what I can tell between your level of education and your financial success as an artist. Education can be very helpful in letting you explore media you may never have (and access equipment you might never otherwise, like our giant printmaking press which I spent a loooot of time using), connecting with peers and potential mentors, and honing your skills. But you can do that on your own, or with artists you admire as one-off workshops, or with a local artists collective. For anyone considering if they "need" formal education, figure out the amount of hours in the program you'd be spending doing life drawing, and painting, and learning composition and other design basics, and go do that on your own. You'll often be as far ahead as the students attending school (and often further as you can work your art time around your job, and not be in debt thousands of dollars for tuition). You *can* do formal education if you really want, but it isn't a direct line to success/fame/respect in the art world, at all.... Oh and I learned a lot from your mentorship playlist with Tim Brooke, and got inspired to join the FCA (and will be exhibiting my first piece with them next month in Vancouver). ❤
This painting is amazing 😍 Did you paint it in one go or is this the process over a longer span of time?
When I was in high school and my mom's wish for me was to go to a "real college" (from the perspective of a working class, money-focused single-parent household) and I begrudgingly delayed my major in college until my associate's was complete and "history teacher" seemed like the only safe and logical choice for me. By the time I had 3 classes to go for my degree, overnight my focal epilepsy matured and I lost my license, ability to graduate and become a teacher, and ironically it was the only life experience that was great enough to push me towards my dream. That was nearly two years ago, and I am so damn happy not to be teaching history to survive. And in a world where my mom supported art school, my seizures would have cut that degree short just the same, and yet here I am doing what I love every single day.
Moral of the story: Do what you love, degree or no degree.
I am a self taught photographer and oil painter . I suck at the business side and rock the art side .
Damn I got to Vienna just when you left. I wish we had gotten to meet!
what about a video of sorts about your painting style? Like how you get your inspiration and how it translates onto the canvas? somewhat philosophical haha
Here's the thing--you were making money instead of piling up debts for school, yay! I'm a self-taught artist and began that at age 41. Some success in a few art shows, some success at commissions, but mainly living life that was demanding more time than my art. I'm 83 now, and so proud of your achievements, and in love with the quirky, intelligent being that you are.❤
Also,many people ..even from being a child,have an artistic mind & ability & are visually intuitive….however,learning the E&P’s of art can enhance ability & vision….well said Brooke
Hi Brook. I have come across your video when I was looking for information on how to start selling art on Instagram. And now I am hooked. Your art is absolutely incredible. I am in owe of your talent. It makes me cry. I am a starting artist. I would love to learn more from you. Please make a video how you choose your pallette. Your colors are just perfect. Katya ( US)
Thank you so much Katya! I'm glad you found me and I hope I can help you on your artistic journey 🤗 I'll keep the palette video in mind for the future!
I personally can’t afford to go to art school. I maxed out on my student loans and can’t even get a loan for it so I have no choice but to learn it on my own. I work almost every day on my art practice and I do see some progress but I don’t know if I am doing the right things to learn what I need to learn. I suppose if I am achieving the progress that I want then I am moving in the right direction. I want to be a full time artist and I am delusional enough to believe I will be. I’m mostly afraid of the business side of things because of all the technical and financial aspects of that. I am trying hard to overcome this fear. In the meantime, I will practice my art for art’s sake. Thank you for this video and sharing your perspective.😊
Thank you for sharing! Luckily all that business-y technical stuff can be learned. I know, I was really intimidated by it too, but it's one small hurdle to a fulfilling career, so definitely worth the trouble! Awesome that you're dedicating the time to your work, that's most important - keep it up! 🤗 Thanks for watching!
I like to watch these videos because I know you'll tell me what I want to hear xx
Hahah 🤗
I’m a Gen x graduate from art school. BFA concentration in graphic design. I went to art school route because I was told graphic design was the creative way of how not to be a starving artist back in the 90’s.😂 if I only knew then what I know now. 🤦♀️
I was grateful my art school required all the fine art classes before jumping into the computers. Some graphic designers I found in my industry do not know how to draw or use other fine art mediums. It was quite shocking.
College was great in regards to networking & learning how to use the tools but TH-cam & other instructional videos can take that place nowadays along with coaching/mentors.
I had some 1 instructor not like my acrylic painting style because it didn’t match his style & I thought that was a bunch of nonsense.
I had another instructor tell me I would never do 3D design & I better stick w/2D.
I had an instructor that was in the ad agency industry & he gave very insightful information about how to get into graphic design & the print industry.
College art classes did not teach the business side of entrepreneurship. They were more focused on you building a portfolio & just going out in the world to work for “someone else.” I know you have to gage experience under your belt before you say I want to be my own boss.
I could have saved so much more $$ for retirement or my own business had I not went to college/art school. Considering the graphic design industry was paying such a low wage & allowing people with associate’s degrees in. The bachelors degree didn’t take me anywhere but the road of debt.
I have learned a lot about business & marketing being an entrepreneur for many years. I found graphic design was saturated & my old love of fine art medium supports my business. I diversify with my art business but I love it.
I found with knowledge online & e-commerce & networking within the internet I can have a fine art career & not be a starving artist.
It takes tons of hardwork but it’s so nice to not be a cog in a corporate office doing production work as a graphic designer. It only took 20+ years in the graphic design industry for me to figure that out.
Key thing is always be learning & question everything. Have a self drive determination or you will be challenged in entrepreneurship.
Sorry for the long response but that’s my hot take on college/art school Vs learning on your own.
Thanks a lot for sharing! Learning about your experiences with art school can be very helpful for anyone watching/reading, so thanks for taking the time to tell your story! I'm glad you were able to figure it out in the end and are now doing what you love 🙏
I went to art school a couple of years back for a bachelor's degree like everyone else I spent almost a year there but it made me realize that maybe art school is not what I am looking for. I was disappointed because when I entered art school I stopped painting willingly because of the pressure to complete 10-30 projects in one semester but my definition of art was different I wanted to paint according to myself without a time limit or boundation. I want to feel the freedom to create something on my own.
Thanks for sharing!
I studied art in high school and college and found, most people in my classes were really bad artists with some having virtually no talent at all. Most of my instructors taught me very little, encouraging us to practice, a lot, which was the biggest lesson learned.
loved this. Where do you get your background music? I was in the loveliest trance listening to both you and the music as I worked haha
Thank you! I use epidemic sound for my music :)
@@b.cormier love it 🤙
I have a bachelors of science in Geology and I minored in Studio Art. I personally think that was the best way for someone who wants to get degree but also has that artistic passion burning inside them lololol. I plan to pursue a masters in illustration to becoming a science illustrator.
Hi Cormier! Always enjoy your videos, very inspiring and knowledgeable. Very fun! I will suggest maybe make videos of your favorite technics when you started painting that helped you see yourself as a fulltime artist, or/and explain each technic, or the types of paint (oil, acrylic, etc) how they work in a canvas, etc; only if your goal is to teach as well of course lol. Anyways whatever type of video you create, looking forward to watch it! 😂
Basically the only reason I wanted to go to art school is for the social side and to use their facilities, I have since changed my mind because I feel I can try and get these needs met from an art social club instead of spending thousands lol I do need to do an undergraduate degree to study art conservation masters (my current plan) but I also love science so I am at the moment leaning towards that because it's harder to learn independently. I also don't want my experience of art to be effected by a bad experience with teachers or the curriculum, I'd rather control it myself and maybe do online courses if I want 😊 I love seeing other artists journeys so thank you for sharing ❤
can i ask what camera you using for vlog?
Hi Brooke, I love your videos! I want to know how do you film such well polished, professionally edited looking videos? Do you do it yourself or are they professionally edited by someone else?
Thanks a lot! I do all the filming and editing myself 😊
@@b.cormier that is amazing Brooke. They are very professionally done!
i took every art class growing up in canada that i could in school, sometimes twice lol
i went to college and uni here (scotland) for art. college was just to get into uni and i was left on my own to do what ever i wanted since the teachers said there is nothing they can teach me (i am not bragging, because of said canadian classes i was at the level of college art classes here). i took graphic design in uni, should have done product design or Interior & Environmental Design, but thats on me not the uni lol. it was...ok but yeah not anything i couldnt have learned on my own now with the net and the library. Connections are def one of the main reason to take a class like graphics, but you could always go to conferences and conventions for that if needed.
How do you deal with attachment to your work?
There are (or were) Schools of Art , based on the age old Atelier system and there are departments 'teaching' Art in Universities and colleges. Go find a master and learn from him/her. If you can find an Atelier then go there. If an art school is merely an adjunct to a college or university whose main degrees are in business and commerce, then stay home and look at videos of artists working, buy some really good "professional" or in the case of a well known English company, "artist's" paints (not "students" colours), some good brushes, some cheap canvases and experiment. Don't expect to make a living, even Michelangelo had to haggle to get paid ..eventually.
I went to art class in high school and i really enjoyed it. Mr Ryan (my art teacher) was less technical and more inspiring... if that makes sense. I learned a lot from him. I took one semester of art college. I found it stifling. Not bad, not useless but stifling. So I just studied and worked it out for myself.... maybe that's why I have a regular 8 to 5 job and I'm not a full time artist!!!🤣
Haha everyone's path is different! You can still get there one day ✊
First time viewer to This channel.
Your *Mammy's cookies* (bis-kwits) look *yummy* . Hmmm :)
I am a self taught artist as well. I also was a musician, but I chose the medical route after high school because I figured it would be a more stable form of income. 10 years later, and I am not fulfilled with medical at all. It’s my DREAM to open a small art business, but unfortunately living with the economy the way it is, I don’t have the money to take the leap, or even to take some courses to learn business. Maybe one day 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I hope that I can share some knowledge with my channel that will help you! It’s never too late 🙏
Thank you Brooke! ❤️
Do you edit your own videos? The editing is pretty good.
Yes, I film and edit all my own videos - thank you! 😊
Do you have a video on the business side of being an artist? I just started my business, and would appreiciate any tips and tricks; Love your videos btw ;)
Thank you! I don't have any business-y videos yet, but @KelseyRodriguez has a lot of helpful videos if you want to check out her channel!
oh thank you, I will check her out 🙏@@b.cormier
Bachelor in fine arts here.
And I believe that going to art school is unecessary!
I would love to discuss the topic though! As it's something that has greatly affected how other artists view me.. And even non-artistic people.
"Self taught" means that an artist learned art by themselves. Wouldn't that mean no mentor, no social media, no videos and no books? JUST yourself?
If "self taught" simply means "without an official diploma" then I definately identify as "self taught". I had a horrible experience in art school. My teachers were degrading, discouraging, and there were no courses on marketing or selling art. I was told Facebook was a stupid way to sell art, that I shouldn't ever draw using contour lines, that realism isn't art, and even that I wasn't an artist! I have so many horrer stories to share with you on art school! Yet, I make a living with art (and mostly through Facebook!) because i went and did the work myself. I watched and learned from artists that I admired online and in person, researched the best products to use, read blogs, went to art fairs, as well as teach myself, of cours... So I can't say I taught myself everything, because I wanted to learn, and I wanted to go out there and get information instead of just sitting there! So I'm wondering , is it so bad to want to learn from others in order to grow? In other words: is it so bad to perposely not be "self taught" ?
I feel like the term "self taught" is degrading towards whomever went to art school. I know it's not on perpose. I just feel like I worked so hard, on my own, to create my artist life, and went through so much crap, and so many artists look down on me because I went to school. I hope we can change the narrative together as artists! (and that I will one day stop hearing "Oh, well you went to school so that's why you're good." which makes me feel quite horrible)
I'm sorry to hear you had such a bad experience! It's awesome that you were able to make your art career happen despite it 💪
I personally have never looked down on anyone that went to art school. I understand that everyone's path is different and the most important thing at the end of the day is that you're working towards your dreams, whatever that may look like... and screw anyone who would make you feel bad about that! To me, "self-taught" just means that you sought out the resources to teach yourself the skills you want to acquire, it doesn't necessarily mean you did EVERYTHING on your own (trial and error style) that would take ages. Be proud of where you are and how you got there ✊
you are so uplifting Brooke! Thank you!!! I admire your art and career and would love to meet you some day! I'm a fellow canadian❤
As a self taught brand new aspiring artist (painting for 1.5 years, drawing my whole life), my issue is developing my “style”. I have a deep passion for painting with oils, trying new techniques and painting different subject matter- but I can’t seem nail down what “my thing” is. I’d love to know your experience with this and if you have any advice!
Ohhhh this is a subject I am passionate about! I struggled with the exact same thing. I'm definitely making a video about it in the future, stay tuned! 🤗
It’s not a question of whether you go or not but if you go to a good one or a garbage one. Most of my basic drawing/painting skills are self taught and come from my drive to improve. But art school me a complete education in history, theory, methodology and taught me valuable research skills I would have never heard of on my own. Your undergrad work is about developing your voice and visual language under professors that will constantly push and challenge you out of your comfort zone. You will graduate a completely different artist than when you started. What could take 10 years or more to develop on your own will happen in 3. Your grad work is mostly research and theory- the “why” artist do what they do and what has moved art forward since the Renaissance. Don’t think you need all that? All contemporary art movements are deeply rooted in theory and if you can’t answer the question of- “What did Donald Judd mean when he referred to his sculptures as ‘Specific Objects’” then you don’t know a fraction of what you think you do about art.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and that's a good point - the kind of art school you go to plays a big role in how beneficial it is to your future career. In reference to the last question of your comment, I'll be transparent in saying that I don't know the answer! I didn't learn all there is to know about art history, theory and methodology because I didn't study it in school; yet despite this, I have still managed to make a successful full time career from my artwork. Maybe some people won't take me as seriously because I don't know what Donald Judd meant when he referred to his sculptures as 'Specific Objects', but I'm not bothered by that. I'm on my own path of pursuing my passion and progressing my work, and that's going to look different for everyone. If the goal is to make a career from your work, then to answer your question of "don't think you need all that?" then the answer is no, I don't. Simply because I have already achieved the goal without it, despite how much or how little I think I know about art. Thanks for watching!
Sorry, but needing to know about Donald Jude’s work to consider yourself a good artist is nonsense. I’m sure you’re an excellent artist with an excellent knowledge of art history and theory, but there are so many other ways to learn how to think as an artist, be aware of the way the art world works and become an amazing artist. Many of the most successful artists in the history of art didn’t go to art school. I studied Fine Art at three different universities in the UK and USA, then studied to teach art at a fourth university. It taught me a great deal and I loved it, but I’ve actually learnt far far more by practising art and teaching it. In fact, after 14 years of teaching art I don’t actually teach any of the content I learnt at university, as I’ve learnt so very much more since then that has overshadowed it. I didn’t use paint at all while I was studying and now it is my medium of choice. Brooke’s work is incredible and after all I’ve learnt I would trade it in an instance to become as talented as her and to paint full time like her. If she in the UK I’d be requesting classes from her, rather than offering them to her with my “art school experience.”
Can you please tell me , if I learned painting from TH-cam it's called I am an self thought artist or not?