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- Was only going for a no-miss but accidentally no-bombed too.
Dodonpachi Saidaioujou came out in arcades in 2012 and was the final game in the Donpachi series made by Cave.
Hibachi is one of two True Last Bosses in this game, in order to trigger her at the end of the game you need to:
- Beat the game with 1 death or less.
- Get at least 3 Bee Perfect Stages.
The Hibachi fight in this game is modeled after all the past Hibachi fights. Every attack is based on a Hibachi attack from a different game in the series.
Shmups wiki page for SDOJ: shmups.wiki/library/DoDonPach...
The Hibachi fight is a lot easier with Expert type, since you get a smaller player hitbox on Expert.
Hibachi herself doesn't change at all on Expert.
Doing this NMNB requires not shooting the boss for most of the fight, there are a lot of reasons for this:
- Need a high hyper level for the final phase to end it before washing machine starts again.
- To build hypers you need to pointblank, which is only really possible on the fourth attack.
- The hard attacks are the first two and you can't end the first phase before you have to redo the first two attacks again anyway.
- Not shooting makes you redo the third and fourth attacks but those are fairly easy anyway.
- The fireballs on the second pattern are only visible if you don't shoot.
- It's easier to dodge in general because of better bullet visibility.
- Phase 1
Attack 1 - Static but with random boss movement.
Easily the hardest attack in the fight that is not washing machine. It's very fast and hard to react to. You can somewhat learn it after playing it a lot but it still takes a bit of luck I'd say. Want to stay near the big red bullets and cross over to the left whenever possible. Usually the boss movement will give you an opening.
Attack 2 - Fireballs thrown into random directions. When the fireballs touch the walls they explode into sets of bullets. Watch the fireballs and dodge accordingly. The fireballs themselves can't hurt you but you can only see them if you stop shooting, since your own bullets cover them up completely. This attack can be particularly nasty if you get unlucky.
Attack 3 - Static with some slight variation on where it starts in the pattern and how it overlaps. Not too bad after you learn how to read it. Want to stay a bit to the left of the middle. Some waves will wall you extremely quickly if you don't move out immediately, recognizing when this is about to happen is key.
Attack 4: Where the red and blue lines first spawn is random. The easiest attack probably. Just follow along with the flow to the right and then alternate between dodging blue and red. You can pointblank the entirely of the attack here, which is the key to doing damage as well as charging your hyper for the final.
- Phase 2:
Final phase alternates between two attacks, washing machine and fugusashi. It starts with a short washing machine, then fugusashi and after a bit it will switch back to a long washing machine, then fugusashi again etc.
Washing machine is nigh undodgeable, so you want to end the final phase before the washing machine starts up again. For this you need to bring a level 6 hyper into the final.
Fugusashi is static with random boss movement again I think. It's a lot more dogeable and not that bad after you get used to it. It can get hell if the boss moves very low on the screen though.
At the start you can pointblank on the right of the boss. The red bullets are static, the blue bullets and the boss movement is random. You can skip most of the first washing machine with the hyper activation, but you still need to dodge for about a second or two (or use an autobomb). Look at Hibachi's movement to decide on which side of the screen you're going to dodge. Usually you can safety sit in the bottom right for a second or two if you're lucky.
It's possible to bring a level 7 hyper into the final but it didn't seem worth the extra rank increase. The boss dies at around the same time with a level 6 and level 7 hyper.
Rank 10 is about as low as I could manage to get the rank in a real run without outright doing TAS crap.
Type A has the fastest speed which helps a lot for attack 1, 3 and the final.
Omake: / 1477777529578700806
Apparently the RNG in this fight doesn't change until you press the shot or laser button. You can kinda cheeze the entire first cycle like this with seeded RNG on a savestate. I made sure to laser her at the start for a bit to make sure I got a random seed as to make this as legit as possible.
Very fun TLB, I think it's easily one of the best TLB's Cave ever made.
Also shoutouts to Sairyou for being the first to finally beat Inbachi:
• 【Training mode/default...
00:00 - Intro
00:45 - Boss
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Only Jaimers would say they "accidentally" no bombed a boss.
Now he needs to do it with Hikari and Maria.
@@lancecurry7538 He'd need brand new strats. Those two have weaker lasers.
Touhou fans : Man, why do the games have to be so hard?
Meanwhile Dodonpachi :
I think those guys dodged entire existence at this point, as they can dodge even protons and electrons
But on a serious note, despite being a noob, on average, Touhou isn't that difficult and modern games suffer from bullet visibility
@@misery_shun touhou has always been more "artistic" than "arcade-y" or difficult, so it can never really be as hard as some other games like ikaruga, mushi futari or this
@@himejoon8005
And that's why I love Touhou
In my childhood, I was never exposed to arcade games (or games in general, I was grown up in a village), so I never really cared for "score play". When I discovered Touhou it was a joy to watch magical girls fight eachother with spells of absolute beauty and it was unique from its counterparts at the time and it remains as one of popular examples to this day
Dodonpachi says: we all make true last boss is very hardest
I think I will try touhou again after I 1cc mushi maniac,never liked touhou much compared to other STGs
Wait what?! Crazy! Such a cool fight
Yeah cool fight
It's always scary to me how many close calls there are where bullets basically clip through your hitbox at 0.25x playback, but that just goes to show how fucking hard the boss is
Jaime's made me appreciate shmups more than I already did and I wish more people knew about them
Also, i just realized
*He did it on a proper SDOJ dump.*
At last.
We can train for Inbachi ourself
If this is touhou, you can hear the graze counter sounding like a machine gun. Also just realized that most of Hibachi’s attacks are the same as in the older games.
Only Jaimers could go for a no-miss and _accidentally_ get a no bomb as well lol. GG!
How this is even humanly possible is beyond me. I mean even with practice. Absolutely stunning!🔥
woah, woah, epic
speaking of it, someone finally beats Inbachi, eh?
congrats to that guy.
Sairyou was the first, though credit can be attributed between him, another Korean named A1nverse, and me.
Man, it's been a while since I last heard from you! How have things been--Oh. *"Accidentally"* no-miss/no-bombed the True Last Boss, you say?! You lunatic shmup monster you. 😆 Excellently played, good sir. 👏👏👏
you did it, the absolute madlad
congratulations!
Not just impressive as a no miss no bomb. Also extremely elegant conservation of movement and stacking hyper to make a very short finall pattern. Beautiful to watch
So, a no bomb clear is how you avoid Hibachi telling "BARRIERU!", lol
Wow!awsome dude!👌
I feel like I watched history be created
Hibachi´s first bullet pattern makes a reference to one of Hachi´s patterns in DonPachi, where Hachi´s laser can be reflected.
The other patterns are also all references to Hibachi patterns from previous games.
@@aethix1986 Like the Deadly Flower pattern from DaiOuJou?
@@julianseph842gamez5 Yeah. The phase 1 patterns are Donpachi, Dodonpachi, Daioujou, and Daifukkatsu in that order. The phase 2 patterns are Daioujou and Dodonpachi.
The Crazy Grenades and Thousand Stingers patterns comes from DoDonPachi?
@@julianseph842gamez5 Yeah, it's one of the attacks of the original Hibachi
I have seen only one other Hibachi NMNB, also with Shuri, but with a very low rank (Zero, to be exact)
No one has done it *properly* (Rank 10 and above)
Until now
*Jaimers, you have opened the floodgate*
The age of SDOJ has come to an end
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Several Japanese players have done this in the arcades (With Type A, B and C), with the Rank well over 10.
Here is Yusemi SWY doing a No Miss of Hibachi at Rank 36 in 2014: th-cam.com/video/-79kYzh7vR4/w-d-xo.html
@@cave-stg *Holy fuck, he did it LIVE, on cabinet*
And he just fucks off after that, like a CHAD he is
Edit: I made a personal mental Note regarding the Rank on SDOJ vanilla in relation with the difficulty of the game
I believe, that
- Rank 0-9 is Easy (DOJ Tamashi-kind of easy) [Hibachi fight is piss easy on this rank because of the scarce bullet density]
- Rank 10-18 is Normal (usual Loop 1 diff) [Normal Hibachi fight, except Rank 18]
- Rank 19-28(?) is Hard (Loop 2 diff) [I think the Hibachi here is comparable to DOJ Black Label Hibachi]
Rank 29-40 is DOJ Black Label-esque [DOJ White Label Hibachi]
Rank 41-MAX is basically Death Label as a playable diff [Same thing for the Hibachi, its just not Double Hibachi]
...am i correct on this one?
@@alexhndr No, because some patterns are in fact easier at higher rank
陽蜂ここまで余裕で倒せるなんて……！
Let's go Jaimers!
Kayar’s dodging method
we forgot the fact that Aoi Yuki voices Hibachi 😂
i saw a lot pro players use Type A ship in SDOJ. i wonder why?
Gotta put my second comment here, so..
Can someone who understands japanese translate to what Hibachi is saying?
Fun Fact: Her CV is Aoi Yuuki. I love her voice so much. ❤️
th-cam.com/video/P_QBisDe2OQ/w-d-xo.html - this has subtitles
Impressive man! Just a question where can you get this game? I have DaiFukkatsu on Steam but unfortuantely Cave hasn't released SaiDaiOuJou there yet. Are there alternatives sources for PC? Always wanted to play this game... Greetings!
The MAME ROM has been leaked, you can do digging for it
Hey Jaimers, I say you put up spetacular fight against Hibachi.
Now I dare beat you to Inbachi, the world's hardest boss in history.
He's stated multiple times that not even he's good enough to try that
...or is he?
*Moon Men plays*
How much blitter delay you think is the best to get the most accurate slowdowns?
Very impressive run btw, I never would've thought that the safest way to dodge the first two patterns is actually not shooting Hibachi
Can you then explain me why he didn't shot at times?
@@CATinBOOTS81
- It's way easier to see the bullets while not shooting, so dodging things like the second pattern is a lot more managable.
- In a regular run where you actually shoot her, you can't do enough damage to finish her off before you have to dodge the first and second pattern again (wich are the hardes patterns in the first phase) unless you use a hyper.
You really don't wanna waste a hyper during the first phase, since you want to save it to do as much damage as possible to prevent a second wave of the washing machine during the second phase. So the smartest thing to do would be to only shoot Hibachi during the fourth attack, since it's the only attack where you can pointblank her. Pointblank = Tons of hyper charge.
imagine how many cartouches being release in a single run, 2 mount of everest?
man Hatsune Miku is PISSED
Oh my~
Soon enough we'll get Inbachi 1st Clear
@@_Yamichu You should look up someone named Sairyou.
Were you using mame? Is this the 360? Cuz I know the rom is still out there
Wow
What if SHN-4 from Nanostray beats Hibachi
Wait, if you no miss, no bomb, wouldn't that mean you get Inbachi?
Unless you didn't get all the Bee Perfects?
He means NMNB Hibachi, not NMNB *to* Hibachi
@@serraramayfield9230 | Ohhhh...
Timer 02:53.09
Lumine, but?
uh...
Dude I'll ask again is this mame? Arcade or 360?
Arcade - MAME
Jaimers = extraterrestrial
Is this world’s first no miss?
Nah NM has been done in real runs before. Not sure about NMNB but I wouldn't be surprised since the difference between them is literally just one mistake.
Inpachi please.
He isn't doing that
@@serraramayfield9230 or is he?...
@@valdemontano3810 yeah you read my comment lmao
impossible !!