my friend, you're the best. period. Your video gave me that final push to tackle my project. I read and watched 50+ things and this was the last one. My car is a 2011 GLK350, slightly different way to remove trims but in essence, same job. For the ones researching, here is a few thoughts: - My ESL started to fail, especially when cold. with a few attempts, it would start the car. - I bought the part through Amazon, looks identical although it has a different part number. It worked. - ESL with new motor is slightly noisier and faster. I completed the job in 3 hours with breaks. - My only mistake was to connect and test the ESL-KEY-EIS with the key inserted, dashboard plugged... BUT the air bag off.... now I have a SRS light and will have to figure out how to reset (I will not take it to the dealer!) Thank you!
good tips and well done and thank u... u should invest in ur own obd2 scanner tool u can. get one for 50 aud shipped and it can do airbag and majority of errors ..that's what I got originally then I just went with a Icarsoft designed for mercedes about 150 aud but good investment especially if u plan to service ur own car
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks for the tip, I just bought an Autel ML629 OBD2 Scanner, it does not say that it works with MB I consulted the tech support and they confirm it should. Will see... And I forgot to say that the most difficult part of the job was to remove those little pins to open the ESL!!! A real nightmare!
@@guilhermeiwamoto4405 lol yes ... alot of ppl say this but if u just twist whilst pulling it comes right out.. at least it did for me.. that's exactly what I got autel. it will reset airbag .. no problems.. mine isn't colour but u don't need colour .. as long as it resets airbag and most ull be fine
Thanks for a great vid.. saved me time and money👌 I managed to change the motor and I only dropped the kick plate down 3x torx screws and the 4 x male torx bolts that hold the column up and did all the work looking through the side of the dash with end panel removed. I didn't remove the steering wheel, stalks, clocks or anything else. The pins in the box were the most time consuming as i didn't have the correct tool like you had but I sharpened a pick to a small square and that did the trick. If i was to do it again 2hrs would see the job done comfortably. Thanks again for great, very helpful and informative video 10/10
well done matey congrats on the fix... i take my hat off to you.... so as u realised u can now also confirm.that a programming is not.needes if u ade simply replacing the motor...correct?..amd food on ya for being able to do it without removing the other parts...well done i say ...well done indeed...im jusy a beginner as well and i did all that to also show others how to remove certain parts aswell... if i had to do it all again ...i think would only take 1 hr now that ive done it so many times..lol...but fingers crossed not for a while...n imho i may go for the emulator bypass next time around...due to less moving parts so less chance of a motor going..im so glad my video helped u dear friend....thats what its all about
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ It was because your video was so informative that I had the confidence to try in the first place so thanks again. I followed exactly what you said as far as ignition and disonecting the battery and all went perfectly with 100% no coding needed😁. I fixed it for £15 as i wanted the motor asap. If i could've waited a week there were motors available for less 👍
@@1jzAll thata such good news cuz as u can see from the comments some ppl still have issues doing it and im sure they did something a little wrong ... and or maybe it wasnt unlocked yet... or even they did the mistake of trying to start the car when it clearly didnt start from the first two turns of the ignition.... becuz our cars have the safetu feature where once u try to crank it a few times and the eis and the esl dont sync ..it goea into a fail safe mode where it locks out the key preventing u from being able to start the car..ive seen it way too many times
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ shoot, i tried to start my car like 50 times a week ago. If there's is a fail safe mode, is it permanent? Is it best to just buy an emulator to solve?
I couldn’t have done this repair without your videos. It was a lifesaver. I did, however, do it without removing the steering wheel, which saved some time and dealing with the airbag. Thanks!!!
All done and dusted. Many thanks bro. Just one tip there is two mini switch on circuit board so when re fitting circuit board after fitting new motor, make sure both switch is pressed otherwise won't or force fitting will damage, small pick can be used to push back.
@@0laybradj not sure what your question means? Actually now the motor failed again. So I've completed bypassed the esl module, I haven't had issues since then.
Question bro, when I replace the eis, I won’t have to program it to get it to work with my car right? Is this a straight swap and my car will turn on once the eis is replaced and the proper key turns it right?
very detailed; you left nothing to guess. Greatly appreciated, m8. Mine (X204) has failed in the locked position, and will not unlock, so I get to do it the hard way..
yes unfortunately that is how it is...but rest assured it is still possible ..so do not be discouraged...i wish you all the best mate..and thanks for showing your support..i greatly appreciate it ....
What a great pair of videos these are Mikey, thank you so much. Have had my car refuse to turn on two occasions only but think it's the same issue. To be sure I intend to do as you say. Roll on!
sorry to hear that.. but u should be ok just be very careful and ofcourse take ur time and hopefully u get it sorted asap..wishing u the best of luck mate....goof on ya for taking on the task
💯🔥📈 with the pandemic ive been binge watching your videos and cant get enough i have learnt so much from them all and habe to say u it really comes througj your actions and explanations your passion and determination to show us all how to diy...and i thank you for being so humble and taking the time to make these videos for us....its truly inspiring to see you start from knowing nothing and gradually learning and getting better video by video....and the editing is amazing too...props to you man...well done ..keep it up ...keep grinding
Hi Mikey, I eventually got round to replacing the ESL on my w 204. What a bloody awful job from beginning to end. However, I managed it it in the end - thanks to your good self - and I replaced it with an emulator obviating the necessity of placing it back in its original position. The ESL warning light came on when I started it up again but after a short run and a repositioning of the clockspring and the steering wheel all is OK
I am leaving a comment because you helped me understand why the key does not turn to any position, an amazing instructional video. My vehicle is a 2003 C240, I am yet to get to tap and see if helps to unlock because right now the alarm is on and is driving me crazy. I will update on this and see what happens.
Best instruction online, but I have a 2006 C230 Sport. It's quite a bit different. I suppose trial and error as you probably did to figure it out, but I wish you had a video.
most welcome ... the only part I didnt show properly was where the actual esl is but it's there under .. and also don't forget about the 2 grey switch buttons when u reinstall... another tip if ur esl was unlocked ensure u reconnect power in position it was in wen u disconnected the battery
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ I have successfully replaced the ESL motor. Thank-you so much for your share! However, I was unable to remove the steering wheel. I do not have somebody to help me holding the steering wheel while trying to break free the bolt. It was too tight and my tool is not long enough. Eventually, I did it without removing the steering wheel. I just lowered the steering column, leaving the two upper bolt while removing the two lower bolt. The steering column become like a seesaw. I push up the steering wheel so the ESL was lowered to the extend that I can remove it. Thanks again! You are super helpful!
Hi Mike, This is an incredibly informative video. I'm somewhat looking forward to getting at it with my 2008 C-class. I usually do most of my work with the help (an major savings) of champs like you being detailed and clear. One key detail I've read touched on but not fully addressed is what exactly is happening and subsequently what needs to be done first when more than the two (or a few) noted attempts are made to start the vehicle with no response? I drove out somewhere (no issues whatsoever) parked and went for a walk with my family. Came back and entered the car to start it like I have for years with no issue to have it completely doing nothing. With this being foreign to me I tried several times and then tried my wife's fob several times. I most definitely believe it's the ESL because I eventually noticed the sound we usually hear was not longer happening and the steering was still turning. My main question before going down the road of you repair, do I now have to somehow reprogram my key fobs before being able to proceed with the fix? Are the now deprogrammed as a "fail safe" as mentioned in a comment? Thank you for any help you can provide on this small glitch. :)
hey mate thanks for the kind words... so in the case where u have caused the care not to recognise your key by trying to turn the ignition wen esl failed..I think its just a fail safe .. but I believe your key still works .. its just shut down so in case someone is actually trying to steal ur car ..can't.. u won't need to program it.. I believe u can just do the fix and it will be ok ... but I can't say I'm 100% sure but in my experience and research this is what ppl do ... I believe u can just go ahead with the fix .. many ppl have had successful attempts and told me it's actually not too bad once u get into it.. I wish u all the best and hope u get at it
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks again. Just waiting for the part and reaquainting myself with the procedure prior to its arrival. A couple of questions from Part 2. To do the all important test prior to reassembly you didn't mention whether or not you reconnected the airbag (srs system) prior to energizing or reconnecting the battery for the ESL test, is that required? In part 1 (I think) I recall some mention that it's almost inevitable to have to deal with an srs error when testing and one will have to get that OBD2 reprogramming tool. However in this Part when talking about testing the ESL prior to assembly there is no mention of having the airbag temporarily connected to avoid an srs error code later if the ESL is good and we reassemble everything. Secondly, at ANY point when dealing with the airbag in disconnection, reconnection and handling, is their ANY possibility of it deploying and giving someone a heart attack? 😂😂💔😱🤣
Hello, a big thank you for your videos and your explanations! I'm getting into this repair this afternoon, I'm in France and here, the minimum price for this repair by a mechanic is 700€... I hope it will work !
Hello Mikey, Amazing tutorial, thanks a lot! I have three quick questions, please let me know what you think, if possible. Thanks! 1: Should all steps be the same or very similar on a W204 C220 too? 2: Is it possible to bypass removing the instrument cluster = leave it in place? 3: Is it possible to bypass removing the steering wheel by simply loosening the wheel's adjustment lever? Wouldn't that provide enough access to the ESL? You know, when you adjust the steering wheel's height and position for your convenience.
hey buddy welcome to the channel 1. yes steps will.be same 2. yes u can bypass by buying a esl emulator that bypasses the esl module and you just unplug the esl and plug your emulator in place and secure it wherever u like..just as long as the cable is long enough for you to place it where you choose... also you will need to have the emulator programmed to suit your car lowering the column isnt enough you will.need to remove the steering wheel and the column cover and loosen the 4 etorx bolts in order to lower the column enough to reach the esl ... adjusting the steering angle will allow some room but not enough to remove the esl module from the steering column ..hope this was helpful friend
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thanks a lot! A quick followup - is it enough to just insert the key in the EIS and then disconnect the battery or do I need to insert + also turn the key? I assume it doesn't make a difference, the point is the ESL is unlocked, right?
Hi Mike you are a absolute legend for this video, I hate how benz puts these motors that fail before the car does and make u change ur whole steering column over it. I just have two questions 1. How long does the total job take 2. Where did u get get that motor that fails
job took about 1 hr and half for first time being cautious and all ... motor can be found ebay aliexpress I have linked them in the description of video buddy buy now I have done it so many times I can do it in liken45 mins
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you so much I just orderd it threw Amazon since I live in Canada. You are truly a life saver for some reason my els seems to be left on the unlocked position not locked, I kno this because I can turn the wheel. Same stepps apply?
I went ahead and did all the steps my steering wheel is unlocked its a bit of a b%/f% to get the ESL off I took off the 13mm bolt but having a hard time pushing the nut far enough for the ESL to slip out, any pro tips here maybe use a small flat head or so
Hey everyone! I just bought a 2014 C300 4matic with 60K miles. How common is this issue and is it something I should replace on my own before it goes bad, or do I wait and see first?
Ok ill find it and post here I used this www.ebay.com.au/itm/322583171493 #Aliexpress AU $11.49 35%OFF | Free Shipping New ESL/ELV Motor Steering Lock Wheel Motor Tool for Mercedes For Benz W204 W207 W212 a.aliexpress.com/_d6XQr2u #Aliexpress Your AU $1.49 in coupons are here! a.aliexpress.com/_d7DLArQ www.ebay.com.au/itm/173823856966 here is another link to some tools to make life easier www.ebay.com.au/itm/392505785817 This is to remove eis and other yellow tool os to help remove the pins that hold the esl module together but u can also use a torx 5 and hit it in slightly and pull whilst u turn and it will work too
You should run your own mb shop did you ever break things u couldn't fix if so can u do a video on that coz either your a genius or u got some mad editing going on 👍nice video again bud
but i also do alot of research before attempting something , i was also very lucky as well not to screw anything up when it came to the esl.... but also i made sure that if i had any issues i could take it somewhere to get fixed, which is why io stated in the video if your not comfortable with doing electrical work on your car then its prolly better to get someone else to do it, but if you follow my steps to remove the esl, it will still save you money , getting someone else to do the removal of the esl would cost around 1750 ...but if you remove it yourself and get someone to fix the issue in the module alone and also remove the EIS ignition switch , then you would only opay around 500..so either way you can save big $$$$
Question: After replacing the motor in the ESL and putting it back together, what all needs to be plugged back in to then test the ESL before completely reassembling everything? Thank you in advance!
so once u replace the motor... ensure u also depress the grey switch buttons in the module theres 2 of them ... or else it wont work i forgot to mention it in the video... once u reassemble ensure ur key is back in the ignition wen u re connect the battery and then proceed to remove the key and reinsert once the battery is connected again ..thats how u test to make sure the esl locks and unlocks like it use to
Thanks for the quick response! Tried it out, still not functioning. 🤷🏾♂️ considering sending my key, ESL, and EIS to a guy on eBay who can reprogram a used one. Thanks for making this vid though. Learned a lot!
@@BlueIce776 ur most welcome friend .... yeah it can even be that due to incorrect removal u could have possibly fried your chip and may need replacing .... this is a possibilty but not a concern if everything is done right... which is also why i stress to be very careful and try be patient and pay attention to detail wen doing this kind of work.... i hope u get urs sorted asap... also if u send it in to have fixed it wont cost anywhere near 1200 ..it will be much less as u have done the hard work of removing it ... i suggest this to most ppl who are uncomfortable doing it themselves ....
@@Patrick-ou7lx hey buddy i dont know how to do that ..all i did was the replace the motor.... which is why i said if u cant do it u can send it off to get it fixed
Mikey, really appreciate the vids man, managed to put it all together and got it working, however, as soon as I turned the key I got an airbag fault light on the dash. What is / are the possible reasons for this? And how would I overcome this problem? Many thanks.
did u disconnect battery before removing airbag ? normally airbag errors occur due to still having ppwer and disconnecting airbag ... how long did u wait til u unplugged airbag
MIKEYZ VLOGZ Yea I got about half way through ( taking the clock spring out ) and realised the battery was still connected. I then disconnected the battery and kept going from there. Would this have caused the fault ? And if so, how come it didn’t go away when I plugged the airbag back in and connected the battery back to the car ? Cheers
yeah thast why you got an airbag code..you will need a tool that can reset airbag codes...or any shop can do it for 30-40doallrs depends on the person some may just do it free
Good stuff bro, quick question how would I go about testing the ESL is working after replacing the motor? With out having to put everything back together? Air bag and what not? It's gonna set off a code... And it seems alot of work to take everything back out.... Also on the motor? Where could I find it? The benz dealer? An RC remote control shop? Any part number I should look out for?
if you have a obd2 scanner that can reset most or all errors like airbags and SAS etc... then u can simply test it by reconnecting the white cable that plugs nto the esl module ... which is the green plug harness on the esl module and make sure your battery is disconnected at first with your key in ignition.... when u reconnect your battery .... then u can just remove the key and reinsert to make sure it works .... you will hear the turning noise of the motor... the motor can be found all over Ebay.... if you type in w204 esl elv motor it will come up.... I will double confirm
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thank you so much, I'm about tackle this job as we speak, I have a W207 I have the parts and all, and I'll just use the scanner to reset the codes.
@@robertomaturino9626 good on u for taking on the task ... like i always say im no professional nor am i a mechanic by any means ...so if i can do it..so can u.... i wish u the best of luck dear friend .... rememeber attention to detail is key ....
Hello Mikeyz: Great job, I am preparing myself to do the same job in my Mercedes W204 C180 CGI. I have a question: In order to take out the ESL From the steering column do you need to go down move it to the right? How do you take out the ELS out from the steering column? Thank you in advance for your kindly answer
Ok so i have to do it all by feel but make sure its unlocked first or else u cant remove it... then u remove a 13mm nut that secures the esl then u basically depress the bolt that u removed the nut from and it will allow u to slide out the esl u take it out towards the engine
Many thanks for the great video, really helped me with removing my ESL. Not sure whether to go emulator (expensive) or repair ESL (cheaper) but my main thought is if I replace the ESL motor, plug into the wiring but I DON'T mount it to the steering column and just tuck it out of the way, will the car still start? I'm thinking it will give ease of access if it fails again but obviously I won't have a steering lock.
for airbag u need to use a scanner tool that can reset... or go to closest mechanic and ask them to do for you ..will be cheap.. the airbag light is from removing the airbag before disconnecting battery..or after disconnecting battery u didn't wait til all voltage discharged first
hey mate usually the best way is to push in then pull out as u turn , if that doesnt work try with a t5 torx bit , tap it in abit with a hammer, not too much just enough to grip and then turn slowly as u pull
MIKEYZ: Thanks a lot for the video. I am missing one information on your video. W204 4matic : While removing steering Wheel Column there are two electrical connectors ( one on steering wheel adjustment motor top of the column and other motor in the bottom )you never mentioned. Do you know how to remove these electrical connectors ( I am not talking about steering wheel connector).
connector showing up on your HOW TO remove fix ESL/ELV/EIS w204 w212 C E class mercedes benz common fault Part 2 frame Time clip 5:25/19:18 the gray connector with yellow wire and red wrap. Need to know how to remove this connector. Can't find any tab to press to remove the connector.
I never removed that wire plug i only removed the white one which connects to esl module..but its looks like all u need to do it press either a tab or pry apart ... its a connector so its only going to disconnect two ways either a clip or a tab that's it..what's the theb19:18 time stamp for ? that's the end of the video already
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ : Thanks MIKEYZ! I was referring to 5:25 clip only. My ELV is in locked position i need to remove the steering column. I followed all your instructions. i am only stuck with these two connectors. I will try to remove connectors this weekend. You sounds very knowledgeable person in the video. Please let me know if you figure out how to remove these connectors.
@@bharatc1330 it won't be hard to remove but cuz I never removed them i am not sure ..but most connectors will work the same way where there's either a tab or a clip
i think u may be after a different device... do u mean the device to check esl and eis to make sure that it works and can read esl with key? they are hard to find but if u look on sites like aliexpress.... i dont have one but im sure you can find it on aliexpress .... hope it helps...im not too sure where to get one exactly but i would start there
@@telboy3346 no threads u have to get a t5 torx and tap it in so it grabs it and that's why u pull and twist at the same time so it's gripping and ur pulling slowly so it doesn't just lose grip and slowly it comes out..like I show in the video.. but there's also a tool u can use which is shaped precise to grip and able to turn it and remove it too
u are most welcome dear friend ... your support is most appreciated ..that's what this channel is all about helping other w204 owners
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I got quoted $2700 for a new steering wheel at Mercedes dealer. Please help… the car was in great condition before I turned the wheels too far. I cannot afford this repair.. I paid $4000 for extended warranty on the vehicle and OF COURSE they are saying it’s not covered!
Hi Mikeyz, thank you for your detail explanation My esl was locked so I got to get the whole column out. The problem is that as I removed the 4 bolts, the whole shaft came off the boot. Now to put it back, does it have to be a specific way? How can we make sure that the steering will be proper? Thanks,
I'm pretty sure it only sits in one way from memory ... I remembered wen I took mine out by mistake I had a hard time getting it back in .. but eventually I managed to get it in and it sat a specific way .. just e sure your steering wheel is straight and it should sit correctly .. because urs is locked. u should be able to sit it back in the way it came out
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you, I look at the tube that came off the boot, there is a rubber washer on the tube; however I don't see anything that will lock it in place (inside of the boot). That being said, I'll try to put it back in the morning to see if it makes sense. Every other video shows to remove a bolt before the boot (along with 4 bolts on the frame), which I never did, to take out the steering column. Not sure how mine came out so easily?
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you. I got them all in. Forgot to mention that my ESL board is the bad part (lucky me :-). I ended up getting an emulator, and it's all working fine.
I'm not sure about undertaking this job. Some people say you don't have to remove the airbag and or steering column. Does it matter what model car it is or not? I have an E350 and a SLK that both have developed this problem. Are they the same to repair? How much would the dealer charge and do they require all new parts not just the motor?
I do that so i can loosen the column and have more room ...after all im just a diyer i dont have mechanical training and i just research learn and gibe it a go then share my experience...yes your car would be similar to repair same issue ..the dealer or ahould i say stealer will charge from 1500 - 2500 depends where u are ..rural they charge more .... these are prices ive heard through my subs
i dont think i could do this job .... what would you recommend for a beginner diy like myself?? i would be too scared to ruin the chip or the module or break something ...my skill level isnt very high ....but you have made me want to try ....
just remember to go slow take your time, and if you get stuck at least you know there is always help a phone call away...or msg me and i can assist the best i can but i also strongly suggest that if your not comfortable with taking apart the esl then do not do it..its abit more complicated then expected...and if you get one thing wrong putting it back together, you can fry a chip or relay and then you have to take it to someone top fix anyway ofcourse
yes i did it in mycase because i have a reset tool... but itsbetter then having to put it all back together and then disassemble all over again if u have a fault
Great videos. Can we just repair the esl with new motor and not install the esl back to where it usually goes and just leave it to the side somewhere? So if motor goes bad again it is easy access to esl. Will the car still start this way? Not using emulator . Thanks
in theory yes u can .. however understabd that ur steering wheel will not lock anymore ... that exactly how an emulator works... it replaces the esl and u no longer have a locked steering wheel wen u lock car .. in theory that will work .. cuz all thT matters is that the signal is sent to the ecu telling it that the key is entered and registered and u caN start the car ... i dont see why it wouldnt work ... but i guess its up to you what u decide .. for example when i fixed my esl i tried to start the car by testing without reinstalling the esl module and it started no worries ...
when you put comments or extra guidance on the screen, can you please leave them for a bit longer as it is hard to read them so fast and you have to rewind to finish reading. thanks
ok i will do that for other videos... i just figured u can pause if u want to read them. and i didnt want to block the picture any longer then need be....but i will try leave then guidelines longer friend..no worries.... hope the videos are helpful
ahh i see .... its called a thumb ratchet and i just connect it to a 3" long 3/8" extension and a size 10mm socket..... ebay have plenty of them...... .im sure your country have it ......it should be in your automotive store, if not i always use ebay or amazon..... its a good place to search, amazon is very big in USA but here in Australia, not yet ....just look for thumb ratchet www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=THUMB+RATCHET&_sacat=0
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ not ever seen this kind of tool , ratchet keys yes of course , but not like this one . ah you are in Australia, I thought you were in England , I love your country it is a very beautiful country . Thanks for the info will see about Ebay , thanks again champion
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Hello my friend , I ordered on Amazon , I had to do several searches to be able to pay in Euro because it was not possible otherwise , thanks again for all your precious advice . 'Heard about the TV 'it was very hot right now in Australia a lot of courage to you and your loved ones
yes atm its very very hot...so hard for me to shoot my videos in such hot heat ..lol..but i will continue to do so .... your support means the world to me mate... and i wish you all the best on your journey to fix it..but rest assured buddy it can and will be fixed..do not let one issue deter you from owning a beautiful Mercedes Benz
Hello Mickeyz: Some people say that the NEC chip counts the number of starts, and that there is a limit to the number of starts (programmed obsolescence). So some recommend installing an emulator, instead of repairing the ELS. Do you have any information about this?
I wasnt aware of that ... but as far as i know an emator would be beneficial in that no longer have the motor and no motor means no moving parts to fail so its a good idea but ur wheel will no longer lock
If you disconnected the battery from negative and removed the airbag stuff from steering wheel I got some airbag error codes but the obd port hasn't got power so can't clear them what do I do?
hey bud not sure what u mean, are u trying to code?? or do u mean where the esl modeule is in a w209?? cuz in that case im not too sure as i only work on my own w204, wish i could be more helpful , but im only working on the w204 atm and w23 so all other models are very new to me aswell and i dont have one to work on so i would never feel comfortable giving advice on a issue i haven't worked on myself , sincerely mikey
Great video Mikeyz. My car is starting to display the not starting issue. I got it started bu tapping the steering column. So something is sticking. So do I have to remove the EIS too or just replace the motor?
u just need to replace the motor in the esl module ... and I showed how to remove the eis for ppl who are sending their unit off to get fixed...if u are replacing the motor in your esl ... u dont have to remove the eis...
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ cleaning the gears of the old grease should be done. What's your opinion about that Mikey? I had to visit a mechanic, mine did not work after placing thinks back. That's why I think the old grease may be an issue.
@@fitzphillips5370 I doubt the grease was the reason why things didnt work ..In a case like that I assume it's just due to I correct placement of the esl circuit board and ensuring the switches were depressed wen resembling the esl module back together which is why I always say make sure u pay attention to detail...did u manage to find out where u went wrong ...just so it can help others too
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ the mechanic said there was a problem with the EIS and I have to pay $150 more. When the mechanic was testing the esl they tapped it several times with a screw driver and the key until it worked consistently. I told him not to install it on the column so them installed in some where in a cavity for easy access. For years I was getting a red warning light while driving the car "key not detected" with the key fob button. I'm still getting this error message intermittanty as before. Soooooo what was wrong with the original Eis? Have you ever encountered this error message with the push button while driving? I need to revisit this mechanic to tell him my findings.
Phillips can't say I've ever had that issue ... are u sure its esl related solely sounds like it could be the eis which reads the key ... I hope it gets sorted for u asap...
Hi Mikeyz, Nice video Part1, and part2 as well. At the same time I have a question, which i also posted in Part1. Question is : after i 1. removed ESL ( MB c300 w204 2011 ) exactly according to your video part1, 2. replaced the motor inside of ESL ( replaced properly, ESL is in unlock position now, and it was in unlock position when i removed it ), 3. checked if PIN can be pushed in ok in newly assembled ESL, 4. connected ESL to car, connected steering column, airbag, instrumental cluster ( connected to test ESL ), 5. connected battery Minus, 6. turned the car key ( key was all this time inserted ) - two first times instrumental console was showing same message as before repair, than it went completely dark like key is not in car. ... so my question is - should I reprogram the ESL+ EIS now ? Since i did not install new ESL, only replaced motor - it should not be required. ESL/EIS reprogramming is needed only when we put new ESL ( new chips ) into car ... but in my case, after just replacing the motor, i seems face the need to remove and reprogram ESL/EIS ?
in your case friend what you should do is now take the esl and eis to key specialist and let them fix it.... im sorry to say that something must have went wrong when you replace the motor.... it seems like a very easy job but the smallest mistake will make the ESL not work ...if you take it all apart and bring the esl and eis to a speciallist it should be very cheap maybe around 200 max compared 1500... i hope this helps and u get it fixed asap....
After your repair Dimitri, did you by any chance remove the key after connecting the battery and reinsert it? Not sure why, but I have had to do this every time I have had an esl repaired. (I'm a mechanic and specialise in Merc's) I'm interested to know your answer so that I can be confident enough to try this repair myself. Thanks. And great video Mikey. Very well done!!
I suspect the software in the NEC security chip expects the state of the ESL to be in the locked position, not like in your case it being unlocked. When you put the key in, the motor pulls the lock back and that is the noise you hear. What I suspect with the advice of the grey pin (of the limit switch) to be depressed, is the following: Turn the wheel until the spring-loaded lock is fully out, that is the locked state the chip expects before start. In that case the grey pin of the limit switch on the outside has to be depressed to switch off the motor during the final locking. Put in the new motor. Now comes the "depressing" part, which I have not done yet. To install the circuit board may mean pushing back the grey pin of the limit switch with a small screw driver, so it fits in at the post and is depressed and the circuit board can now be dropped in with the aid of the corner pin and the two pins providing power to the motor. I believe the NEC chip sees the grey pin of the middle limit switch not depressed (= switch ON) and turns the motor in the correct rotation to pull the locking pin back at start-up. The middle grey pin will eventually be "depressed" (=switch OFF) and the motor stops having pulled the lock back. The external limit switch is depressed (= switch OFF) at the start. IMHO, if the NEC chip's program does not see that state of the limit switches on start-up, it gets confused and does not do anything, I do not believe it burns out then. This former IT lecturer believes at start-up, the logic of the firmware is: If external grey pin is depressed, switch on motor to pull lock back until middle limit switch pin is hit to stop motor - the UNLOCKING process. If middle grey pin is depressed, switch on motor to push lock out until external limit switch pin is hit to stop motor- the LOCKING process. My motor died half way, so locking pin is half out and I suspect that would also confuse the NEC chip as both grey pins are not depressed in that position, but the circuit board falls in rather nicely and that is depressing! I hope MIKEYZ agrees with my logic as it probably fixes some of the complaints of: "I put the motor in and it does not work"?
J Sav. Did you get the ESL to work ? Im curious. So make sure to pushbthe two pins in befire setting the board. Put key in ignition abd reconnect battery. Pull the key out and then try starting car correct? How do you do this with out the column in and everything back together.
yes friend because your buying a 2nd hand or a new ESL it will definitely need to be programmed to sync with your specific cars eis .... that way they will be able to recognise each other and the cars ecu... if u were only to replace the motor in your esl after it fails then reprogramming would not be needed as u are only replacing the motor .... however with that said if u fail to open your esl properly u could damage your chip in the esl a d would need a new chip ..hence why some ppl need to have them reprogrammed
Good evening, thank you for the video. Please, can you give me a device ? My Mercedes (E) year 2008 has the Wheel bloccked and now I can't open, I can't start, I can't turn the Wheel, How to fix It ? Thank you for any device. Best regards.
u must put the esl back into place so the locking mechanism can lock the steering wheel... kick plate? .... with a esl bypass you could place it anywhere as its just a bypass module but with the factory esl you should put it back as it was .....
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ .. Im about to tackle the ESL motor replacement watching your video.. My question is can I zip tie the new ESL under the steering column instead of putting it back into the column.. I know the steering wheel will not lock and Im okay with that
Hello Mickeyz: Thank you for your kindly answer. I have two more questions, My car is in unlocked position, just now. Do I need , during the procedure, to mantain the key inside the EIS or this is irrelevant? and When I put the new motor in the ELS what must be the position of the big gear?
No key can be removed wen starting procedure... as for position when u rekove the esl make sure u take note of how everything is seated ... i also show a pic of how it all should be fitted in the video...
honestly not too sure ... but I presume it's related to the barrel and eis electronic ignition switch ... better to do some digging via the net and also use the forums its a great place to ask years of professionals
Hi Mikey... I am stuck atm ... I have removed the nut from the bolt of the esl ... when I depress the bolt in ... I can't seem to get it in far enough through the sleeve... I can actually feel the hole of the back plate of the sleeve while depressing bolt in .. but can't push any further because.... I think my hand is to big to push the nut in those extra few mm 🤔 any tips please ... driving me nuts
I have important question. After installing new motor and then I would like to test, do I insert key in igition and then connect battery? Not sure cause I disconnected battery with key in igition unlocked position. Anyone help
yes friend in order to test that everything works well u have no choice but to connect the battery and insert key and remove key ..welcome to the channel hope u can subscribe...some say that you shouldn't connect the battery with the key in the ignition barrel but as long as u have everything installed correctly and ur sure .... it wont matter.... because I did exactly that and no issue arose from it
Mikeyz, I just found your video. I cannot get the esl motor to spin 1 more time to unlock. Will I be able to still remove the esl in the locked position? Should I have the battery disconnected when I am disconnecting the airbag and clockspring.?
Great video. IJust had this same issue today 🙁 it looks easy when ur a profi as u are, but if you take it to someone to repair it.. how much would such repair cost? Ty 🙏🏻
I'm not a professional ... I. a simple diyer and just did it by following someone write up .. with pics .. and. ecuz I managed to do it I wanted to do this video to show if someone like me with no mechanical background can do it so can everyone else willing to have a go... it does seem abit involved but like anything practice makes perfect ... first time I did it.. it took 3 hrs ... 2nd time an hr ..now I can do it in about 30mins cuz I know exactly what I need to do ... I'm no professional... fully self taught ... hence why I started this channel to help other in my situation save $$$$
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ sounds positive, I just want to get to the cable and add emulator, I don't need to remove the actual original esl. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the vid!
@@mreveritt89 yes I understand what ur trying to do and I think u just might be able to..if u can't..many ppl have had success adding emulator this way...even stating that they didn't have to remove anything at all..just simply unplug esl module.... although I always thought if u were getting an emulator u needed to have ur key and esl handy inorder to have it coded and synced... that was my understanding
Hi, I see you liked my previous comment but can you please let me know the answer as I wont bother to attempt it otherwise. Will you be able to test the ESL with the battery disconnected? Thanks
So I just removed the 13 mm nut hold the esl in place but when I try and push on the bolt it was on it only depresses half way not all the way in please help....
wait. im about to begin this job myself. dont try talking me out of it. I can do it. but lol I have heard that if the key isnt able to turn, that I wont be able to get it off. im confused I had my keys made new and programmed by mercedes. then the new key wouldnt program cuz the car didnt recognize it???? none of my keys turn in the eis. so naturally I sent the eis for repair. turns out to be fine they said but they sent me a new key with it. no keys still work with it when I get it. they said it should work fine. so I assume at this point my steering lock is bad. so... how do I do this? do I need to do anything else? or just follow this video ?
well, if the esl is malfunctioned then the key would still turn it just wont start the car , and hence u dont get ignition or accessories power... in your case where the key isnt recognised , it is also due to this malfunction, for eg. wen ur esl goes bad, the car doesnt even recognise the key and asks for you to insert the key eventhough the key is in the ignition.. so i wouold guess that your issue was the esl all along.. to do this fix many have simply followed my video and had great success.. i would encourage you to do so as well rather then paying mercedes or a locksmith speclist for automobiles to charge you anywhere from 750 to 1750 ..so yes you just need to follow this video and it will help you successfully complete this fix ..g'luck all the best ..u can do it
Good afternoon can you tell me how can I get my esl unlock I tried tapping it didn’t work can I open it up and plug it in to press the buttons and unlock it manually then pull the plug out
u can do that but it's more involved ..if u can't unlock esl then u may need to drill a small hole to manually physically turn it with a pick or small flathead screwdriver google it and ull see pocs and info about how ppl demote it locked
Mikeyz! I have Mercedes 2010 C300. My EIS ignition switch needs to be removed and sending it to pre-program . I was instructed to remove the cluster first, then remove two screws which hold aaluminum bracket ( only Mercedes in America has this protective bracket). Is it true? I have a problem to remove it now.
Hello! Well I stripped the 4 screws to open the esl box to replace the motor just wondering if anyone had any advice what I should do? Would really appreciate it!
got a question for you, i didn't realize my steering was locked, I used forced and turned it to the right a few times, now steering is straight but tires still turned all the way to one direction. Did i break something? and did I mess it up the alignment? tips on how to fix please. thank you
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ no it doesn’t Lol, if it’s the lock I guess it’s fine because I am going to replace it with an emulater I just worried that I messed up the shaft now, this just happened 4 hours ago on my birthday Lol
@@jrjunior1229 happy birthday man... hope u have a great day ..all the best ..best wishers to you ...im so sorry to hear it happened on this day of all the days!!! but rest assured very fixable.. yes an emulator is a good idea. its what i will consider once my esl goes out again ....
Hey Mikeyz, did you ever end up replacing the ESL with the ESL emulator? I'm currently at 161,000KMs on my 2010 C300 and am considering swapping out the ESL motor before I get stranded or just completely bypassing the ESL and never having to worry about being stranded. Do you think deleting the ESL with the emulator is a safe option? Thanks!
its not a bad option definitely a good option becuz less moving parts means less failure of mechanical parts like the motor.. I never ended up getting the enulator yet ..I will once this motor goes...becuz I don't want to deal with the issue again
I do have a question as I'm in the process of changing out the motor. The original motor is still working but I got my first fault earlier this week so I just want to replace quickly so that I'm not stranded. So back to my question?? I placed the key in the EIS and it unlocked. I then removed the battery cables. I"ve replaced the motor and have installed the ESL. Should I place the key back in the EIS and turn to the position it was in when I disconnected the battery before reconnecting the battery and testing? Or will this matter??
u can just place the key back into the ignition barrel ... that's when it unlocks so it will be in the same unlocked position ... then reconnect everything and remove the key and it should lock again ... once you hear the locking mechanism you know you've struck gold and u did it .... imho..yes you should have everything as it was when u disconnected the battery
dis u ensure that u pressed down on the 2 lil grey switches ... when u reinstalled the esl..and waa it unlocked wen u opened it? u may have just did something a lil off
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When I went to try and unlock my steering column with the rubber hammer trick, I had keys in ignition. It unlocked, so I pulled keys out of ignition first, then I went to remove negative battery terminal. When I finish, do I need to have keys out of ignition when connecting since that is how it was before disconnecting? Or should I still have the key in the ignition when reconnecting anyway? Really don’t want to fry anything here.
u need to dosco next the battery with the keys in the ignition.. wen u pull the key out it will lock again. wen u reconnect the battery u need to have the key in the ignition so the esl is recognising the same cycle lock and unlock
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ yeah I just checked and I believe it is locked again, can I just tap on esl again and get it to unlock one more time and leave keys in ignition or does it definitely have to be coded now?
since replacing no .. hasnt failed since ..I'm guessing it will last at least 2 to 5 years ...that's just a guess..it is the most frequently used motor ... everytime u insert and remove key it turns
@@jameskenneth7823 no worries buddy..wish u all the best ...my advice is if you get stuck or frustrated step back breathe and then come back to it..it really helps ... dont go all oout unless you know exactly what your doing...never just try to pull or pry something out that doesnt remove that way..u will break something..everything has its owm way of being removed ..just gotta figure out how to get to it and do it.. ull be fine mate..all th best
im so glad friend ....i believe in sharing the knowledge so we can all save some money......so ....directly under where the esl is located...... tap......its in this video actually........ an arrow appears on the screen at 5:53 exactly........ check it out dear friend i hope that helps...
You are one of a kind....I don't know how I could have missed that...I'll definitely give it a try and give u a feedback. God bless you Sir keep up. I am more than happy to subscribe to your channel.
your too kind mate, im just glad i could help someone, even if it is one person ..its all worth it to me, cuz i know how it feels to be left in the dark with no one to help...now thanks to platforms like TH-cam we can all share experiences ...this channel was built for you guys and dedicated to you guys as well...in order to share the knowledge and help other ppl save money and give tips and tricks on how to fix certain issues where MERCEDES STEALERSHIPS WOULD CHARGE OUTRAGEOUS $$$$$AMOUNTS$$$$$$ FOR.... hence why i started this channel...im so happy to have you as part of my channel..... your LIKES, SHARES, AND COMMENTS will keep me thriving to make more videos to help anyone else out there that may need help in certain areas...so thank you sir.... ITS TRULY IS MY PLEASURE....
im sorry to hear that sometimes it doesn't always work , so make sure your prepared, it happens by chance also , which is why i said in the video that it inst the case for everyone , i think you have to keep trying put your key in the ignition and tap, with an actual hammer and a rubber hammer also, a metal hammer would be bit better cuz more vibration, just don't break anything, try it with key not in ignition as well, pls understad sometimes this happens by fluke, and, may i ask how long this has been happening for??? maybe your ESL has completely malfunctioned, and in that case you would have to remove the entire steering column which i am not comfortable with, let me do some research and try give you more tips
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ bolt with the spring. Is it supposed to go in fully while installing it back. Also, should I keep the esl in locked position before I install it
Mikey just one last thing if your esl is in the unlock position do you leave the wheel next to the esl motor in the same position or do you have to turn it as I have seen other videos where people turn the wheel until it is in the locked position again
@@rainbowkidstoys2771 if your eal is u locked then I leave it in the unlocked position... whichever position you disconnected the battery in the esl should be in that position wen you reconnect the battery
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my friend, you're the best. period.
Your video gave me that final push to tackle my project. I read and watched 50+ things and this was the last one.
My car is a 2011 GLK350, slightly different way to remove trims but in essence, same job. For the ones researching, here is a few thoughts:
- My ESL started to fail, especially when cold. with a few attempts, it would start the car.
- I bought the part through Amazon, looks identical although it has a different part number. It worked.
- ESL with new motor is slightly noisier and faster. I completed the job in 3 hours with breaks.
- My only mistake was to connect and test the ESL-KEY-EIS with the key inserted, dashboard plugged... BUT the air bag off.... now I have a SRS light and will have to figure out how to reset (I will not take it to the dealer!)
Thank you!
good tips and well done and thank u... u should invest in ur own obd2 scanner tool u can. get one for 50 aud shipped and it can do airbag and majority of errors ..that's what I got originally then I just went with a Icarsoft designed for mercedes about 150 aud but good investment especially if u plan to service ur own car
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks for the tip, I just bought an Autel ML629 OBD2 Scanner, it does not say that it works with MB I consulted the tech support and they confirm it should. Will see...
And I forgot to say that the most difficult part of the job was to remove those little pins to open the ESL!!! A real nightmare!
@@guilhermeiwamoto4405 lol yes ... alot of ppl say this but if u just twist whilst pulling it comes right out.. at least it did for me.. that's exactly what I got autel. it will reset airbag .. no problems.. mine isn't colour but u don't need colour .. as long as it resets airbag and most ull be fine
Thanks for a great vid.. saved me time and money👌 I managed to change the motor and I only dropped the kick plate down 3x torx screws and the 4 x male torx bolts that hold the column up and did all the work looking through the side of the dash with end panel removed. I didn't remove the steering wheel, stalks, clocks or anything else. The pins in the box were the most time consuming as i didn't have the correct tool like you had but I sharpened a pick to a small square and that did the trick. If i was to do it again 2hrs would see the job done comfortably. Thanks again for great, very helpful and informative video 10/10
well done matey congrats on the fix... i take my hat off to you.... so as u realised u can now also confirm.that a programming is not.needes if u ade simply replacing the motor...correct?..amd food on ya for being able to do it without removing the other parts...well done i say ...well done indeed...im jusy a beginner as well and i did all that to also show others how to remove certain parts aswell... if i had to do it all again ...i think would only take 1 hr now that ive done it so many times..lol...but fingers crossed not for a while...n imho i may go for the emulator bypass next time around...due to less moving parts so less chance of a motor going..im so glad my video helped u dear friend....thats what its all about
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It was because your video was so informative that I had the confidence to try in the first place so thanks again.
I followed exactly what you said as far as ignition and disonecting the battery and all went perfectly with 100% no coding needed😁.
I fixed it for £15 as i wanted the motor asap. If i could've waited a week there were motors available for less 👍
@@1jzAll thata such good news cuz as u can see from the comments some ppl still have issues doing it and im sure they did something a little wrong ... and or maybe it wasnt unlocked yet... or even they did the mistake of trying to start the car when it clearly didnt start from the first two turns of the ignition.... becuz our cars have the safetu feature where once u try to crank it a few times and the eis and the esl dont sync ..it goea into a fail safe mode where it locks out the key preventing u from being able to start the car..ive seen it way too many times
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I just followed what you said and it worked for me👍👍
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ shoot, i tried to start my car like 50 times a week ago. If there's is a fail safe mode, is it permanent? Is it best to just buy an emulator to solve?
I couldn’t have done this repair without your videos. It was a lifesaver. I did, however, do it without removing the steering wheel, which saved some time and dealing with the airbag. Thanks!!!
u are kost welcome well.done for doing it yourself
Did u had to loose the 4 bolts on the steering column too
All done and dusted. Many thanks bro. Just one tip there is two mini switch on circuit board so when re fitting circuit board after fitting new motor, make sure both switch is pressed otherwise won't or force fitting will damage, small pick can be used to push back.
great stuff mate well done.... yes that's where alot of ppl go wrong
Can you explain ordering the 2 buttons without having it on the bench
@@0laybradj not sure what your question means? Actually now the motor failed again. So I've completed bypassed the esl module, I haven't had issues since then.
Did you have to programme the bypass on your one?
@@0laybradj yes I had to program, you can buy bypass esi on ebay but all three need programming. You won't have steering lock any more.
Good looking out my guy, tackling this job this week. Eis went on my car. Causing it to throw itself in park at low speeds.
that sounds dangerous and really bad for gearbox transmission
Question bro, when I replace the eis, I won’t have to program it to get it to work with my car right? Is this a straight swap and my car will turn on once the eis is replaced and the proper key turns it right?
very detailed; you left nothing to guess. Greatly appreciated, m8. Mine (X204) has failed in the locked position, and will not unlock, so I get to do it the hard way..
yes unfortunately that is how it is...but rest assured it is still possible ..so do not be discouraged...i wish you all the best mate..and thanks for showing your support..i greatly appreciate it ....
Great video ....u r really helping ppl diy n its priceless the time u take to help others fix their problems n show n explain in great detail
What a great pair of videos these are Mikey, thank you so much. Have had my car refuse to turn on two occasions only but think it's the same issue. To be sure I intend to do as you say. Roll on!
sorry to hear that.. but u should be ok just be very careful and ofcourse take ur time and hopefully u get it sorted asap..wishing u the best of luck mate....goof on ya for taking on the task
Muchas gracias amigo!! El mundo necesita mas gente que quiera compartir su experiencia. Bendiciones a ti y a tu familia!!!
💯🔥📈 with the pandemic ive been binge watching your videos and cant get enough i have learnt so much from them all and habe to say u it really comes througj your actions and explanations your passion and determination to show us all how to diy...and i thank you for being so humble and taking the time to make these videos for us....its truly inspiring to see you start from knowing nothing and gradually learning and getting better video by video....and the editing is amazing too...props to you man...well done ..keep it up ...keep grinding
Hi Mikey,
I eventually got round to replacing the ESL on my w 204. What a bloody awful job from beginning to end. However, I managed it it in the end - thanks to your good self - and I replaced it with an emulator obviating the necessity of placing it back in its original position.
The ESL warning light came on when I started it up again but after a short run and a repositioning of the clockspring and the steering wheel all is OK
Thank you once again
well done
I am leaving a comment because you helped me understand why the key does not turn to any position, an amazing instructional video. My vehicle is a 2003 C240, I am yet to get to tap and see if helps to unlock because right now the alarm is on and is driving me crazy. I will update on this and see what happens.
thanks and good luck friend u can do it
Best instruction online, but I have a 2006 C230 Sport. It's quite a bit different. I suppose trial and error as you probably did to figure it out, but I wish you had a video.
Excellent tutorial the best by far saves me so much time and effort
Great work . Help us to do quality work with proper procedures step by step . 👍
thats exactly what its all about matey... hope it helps u out... and thanks for taking the time to watch..hope u can also show ur support
MIKEYZ VLOGZ yes I do . 😊
@@pal.thecarmechanic thanks so much dear friend
Another great informative video man. Keep up the good work.
you never have to apologize for how you look. youu are marvelous.
Thank-you so much for showing us how to do it properly!
most welcome ... the only part I didnt show properly was where the actual esl is but it's there under .. and also don't forget about the 2 grey switch buttons when u reinstall... another tip if ur esl was unlocked ensure u reconnect power in position it was in wen u disconnected the battery
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Got it! Thank-you so much!
@@joeywun no worries at all
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ I have successfully replaced the ESL motor. Thank-you so much for your share! However, I was unable to remove the steering wheel. I do not have somebody to help me holding the steering wheel while trying to break free the bolt. It was too tight and my tool is not long enough. Eventually, I did it without removing the steering wheel. I just lowered the steering column, leaving the two upper bolt while removing the two lower bolt. The steering column become like a seesaw. I push up the steering wheel so the ESL was lowered to the extend that I can remove it. Thanks again! You are super helpful!
@@joeywun well done friend awesome
Hi Mike, This is an incredibly informative video. I'm somewhat looking forward to getting at it with my 2008 C-class. I usually do most of my work with the help (an major savings) of champs like you being detailed and clear. One key detail I've read touched on but not fully addressed is what exactly is happening and subsequently what needs to be done first when more than the two (or a few) noted attempts are made to start the vehicle with no response? I drove out somewhere (no issues whatsoever) parked and went for a walk with my family. Came back and entered the car to start it like I have for years with no issue to have it completely doing nothing. With this being foreign to me I tried several times and then tried my wife's fob several times. I most definitely believe it's the ESL because I eventually noticed the sound we usually hear was not longer happening and the steering was still turning.
My main question before going down the road of you repair, do I now have to somehow reprogram my key fobs before being able to proceed with the fix? Are the now deprogrammed as a "fail safe" as mentioned in a comment?
Thank you for any help you can provide on this small glitch. :)
hey mate thanks for the kind words... so in the case where u have caused the care not to recognise your key by trying to turn the ignition wen esl failed..I think its just a fail safe .. but I believe your key still works .. its just shut down so in case someone is actually trying to steal ur car ..can't.. u won't need to program it.. I believe u can just do the fix and it will be ok ... but I can't say I'm 100% sure but in my experience and research this is what ppl do ... I believe u can just go ahead with the fix .. many ppl have had successful attempts and told me it's actually not too bad once u get into it.. I wish u all the best and hope u get at it
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks again. Just waiting for the part and reaquainting myself with the procedure prior to its arrival. A couple of questions from Part 2. To do the all important test prior to reassembly you didn't mention whether or not you reconnected the airbag (srs system) prior to energizing or reconnecting the battery for the ESL test, is that required? In part 1 (I think) I recall some mention that it's almost inevitable to have to deal with an srs error when testing and one will have to get that OBD2 reprogramming tool. However in this Part when talking about testing the ESL prior to assembly there is no mention of having the airbag temporarily connected to avoid an srs error code later if the ESL is good and we reassemble everything.
Secondly, at ANY point when dealing with the airbag in disconnection, reconnection and handling, is their ANY possibility of it deploying and giving someone a heart attack? 😂😂💔😱🤣
Hello,
a big thank you for your videos and your explanations! I'm getting into this repair this afternoon, I'm in France and here, the minimum price for this repair by a mechanic is 700€...
I hope it will work !
wish u all the best happy merry Xmas happy new year..it will work as long as u do it all exactly
salut, plus de probleme depuis ?
Hello Mikey, Amazing tutorial, thanks a lot! I have three quick questions, please let me know what you think, if possible. Thanks!
1: Should all steps be the same or very similar on a W204 C220 too?
2: Is it possible to bypass removing the instrument cluster = leave it in place?
3: Is it possible to bypass removing the steering wheel by simply loosening the wheel's adjustment lever? Wouldn't that provide enough access to the ESL? You know, when you adjust the steering wheel's height and position for your convenience.
hey buddy welcome to the channel
1. yes steps will.be same
2. yes u can bypass by buying a esl emulator that bypasses the esl module and you just unplug the esl and plug your emulator in place and secure it wherever u like..just as long as the cable is long enough for you to place it where you choose... also you will need to have the emulator programmed to suit your car
lowering the column isnt enough you will.need to remove the steering wheel and the column cover and loosen the 4 etorx bolts in order to lower the column enough to reach the esl ... adjusting the steering angle will allow some room but not enough to remove the esl module from the steering column ..hope this was helpful friend
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thanks a lot! A quick followup - is it enough to just insert the key in the EIS and then disconnect the battery or do I need to insert + also turn the key? I assume it doesn't make a difference, the point is the ESL is unlocked, right?
Hi Mike you are a absolute legend for this video, I hate how benz puts these motors that fail before the car does and make u change ur whole steering column over it.
I just have two questions
1. How long does the total job take
2. Where did u get get that motor that fails
job took about 1 hr and half for first time being cautious and all ... motor can be found ebay aliexpress I have linked them in the description of video buddy
buy now I have done it so many times I can do it in liken45 mins
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you so much I just orderd it threw Amazon since I live in Canada. You are truly a life saver for some reason my els seems to be left on the unlocked position not locked, I kno this because I can turn the wheel. Same stepps apply?
@@187stb yes same steps
I went ahead and did all the steps my steering wheel is unlocked its a bit of a b%/f% to get the ESL off I took off the 13mm bolt but having a hard time pushing the nut far enough for the ESL to slip out, any pro tips here maybe use a small flat head or so
@@187stb yes use a tool it will help and then just pish it up enough to release it amd it will come out
very well done... great job
You’re a geniusssss, hammer trick worked!!!!!!
I'm glad bud.. awesome
Hey everyone! I just bought a 2014 C300 4matic with 60K miles. How common is this issue and is it something I should replace on my own before it goes bad, or do I wait and see first?
Mikeyz, Could you please post replacement motor details: Ebay link etc would be amazing! Thankx (Great video)
Ok ill find it and post here
I used this
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here is another link to some tools to make life easier
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This is to remove eis and other yellow tool os to help remove the pins that hold the esl module together but u can also use a torx 5 and hit it in slightly and pull whilst u turn and it will work too
You should run your own mb shop did you ever break things u couldn't fix if so can u do a video on that coz either your a genius or u got some mad editing going on 👍nice video again bud
YE I DID BREAK THINGS IM NOT PERFECT
in my latest video you will see that i make mistakes and i do admit to them aswell
but i also do alot of research before attempting something , i was also very lucky as well not to screw anything up when it came to the esl.... but also i made sure that if i had any issues i could take it somewhere to get fixed, which is why io stated in the video if your not comfortable with doing electrical work on your car then its prolly better to get someone else to do it, but if you follow my steps to remove the esl, it will still save you money , getting someone else to do the removal of the esl would cost around 1750 ...but if you remove it yourself and get someone to fix the issue in the module alone and also remove the EIS ignition switch , then you would only opay around 500..so either way you can save big $$$$
Hello mikey nice video, is it okay to disconnected the battery for a long time while we working?
yes buddy no problems.... just be aware some of your memory functions may need to be reset thats all.... but no harm to car or engine...
Question: After replacing the motor in the ESL and putting it back together, what all needs to be plugged back in to then test the ESL before completely reassembling everything? Thank you in advance!
so once u replace the motor... ensure u also depress the grey switch buttons in the module theres 2 of them ... or else it wont work i forgot to mention it in the video... once u reassemble ensure ur key is back in the ignition wen u re connect the battery and then proceed to remove the key and reinsert once the battery is connected again ..thats how u test to make sure the esl locks and unlocks like it use to
Thanks for the quick response! Tried it out, still not functioning. 🤷🏾♂️ considering sending my key, ESL, and EIS to a guy on eBay who can reprogram a used one. Thanks for making this vid though. Learned a lot!
@@BlueIce776 ur most welcome friend .... yeah it can even be that due to incorrect removal u could have possibly fried your chip and may need replacing .... this is a possibilty but not a concern if everything is done right... which is also why i stress to be very careful and try be patient and pay attention to detail wen doing this kind of work.... i hope u get urs sorted asap... also if u send it in to have fixed it wont cost anywhere near 1200 ..it will be much less as u have done the hard work of removing it ... i suggest this to most ppl who are uncomfortable doing it themselves ....
BRAVO CHAMPION !!!!
thanks mate hope it really helps u
and thanks for your lovely comments I really do appreciate it
Hi,thx again for this video i just want to ask when you change the DSL for w203 2001 u have to reprogram or?
Thx
if u change esl yes u must reprogram to match with ecu and eis .... if u only replace motor then no need to reprogram
MIKEYZ VLOGZ thx bro pls maybe u can do video and showing us how u do esl reprogram
@@Patrick-ou7lx hey buddy i dont know how to do that ..all i did was the replace the motor.... which is why i said if u cant do it u can send it off to get it fixed
Mikey, really appreciate the vids man, managed to put it all together and got it working, however, as soon as I turned the key I got an airbag fault light on the dash. What is / are the possible reasons for this? And how would I overcome this problem? Many thanks.
did u disconnect battery before removing airbag ? normally airbag errors occur due to still having ppwer and disconnecting airbag ... how long did u wait til u unplugged airbag
MIKEYZ VLOGZ Yea I got about half way through ( taking the clock spring out ) and realised the battery was still connected. I then disconnected the battery and kept going from there. Would this have caused the fault ? And if so, how come it didn’t go away when I plugged the airbag back in and connected the battery back to the car ? Cheers
yeah thast why you got an airbag code..you will need a tool that can reset airbag codes...or any shop can do it for 30-40doallrs depends on the person some may just do it free
@@themrjam321 when u set off an airbag code it has to be resettes it wont just go away after u rectify the issue
MIKEYZ VLOGZ legendary thank you 🙏
Thank for your method it"s helpfull to DIY.
welcome
Good stuff bro, quick question how would I go about testing the ESL is working after replacing the motor? With out having to put everything back together? Air bag and what not? It's gonna set off a code... And it seems alot of work to take everything back out.... Also on the motor? Where could I find it? The benz dealer? An RC remote control shop? Any part number I should look out for?
if you have a obd2 scanner that can reset most or all errors like airbags and SAS etc... then u can simply test it by reconnecting the white cable that plugs nto the esl module ... which is the green plug harness on the esl module and make sure your battery is disconnected at first with your key in ignition.... when u reconnect your battery .... then u can just remove the key and reinsert to make sure it works .... you will hear the turning noise of the motor... the motor can be found all over Ebay.... if you type in w204 esl elv motor it will come up.... I will double confirm
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thank you so much, I'm about tackle this job as we speak, I have a W207 I have the parts and all, and I'll just use the scanner to reset the codes.
@@robertomaturino9626 good on u for taking on the task ... like i always say im no professional nor am i a mechanic by any means ...so if i can do it..so can u.... i wish u the best of luck dear friend .... rememeber attention to detail is key ....
Great job and great help
ur most welcome friend
Hello Mikeyz: Great job, I am preparing myself to do the same job in my Mercedes W204 C180 CGI. I have a question: In order to take out the ESL From the steering column do you need to go down move it to the right? How do you take out the ELS out from the steering column? Thank you in advance for your kindly answer
Ok so i have to do it all by feel but make sure its unlocked first or else u cant remove it... then u remove a 13mm nut that secures the esl then u basically depress the bolt that u removed the nut from and it will allow u to slide out the esl u take it out towards the engine
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ so. do u mean THE CAR NEEDS TO BE UNLOCKED first?
Many thanks for the great video, really helped me with removing my ESL.
Not sure whether to go emulator (expensive) or repair ESL (cheaper) but my main thought is if I replace the ESL motor, plug into the wiring but I DON'T mount it to the steering column and just tuck it out of the way, will the car still start? I'm thinking it will give ease of access if it fails again but obviously I won't have a steering lock.
that's ur choice .. wen mine fails again I will go emulator
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Sorry just to confirm, the car will still start if I do that^
@@adul88 ofcourse ..use an emulator? it will it's a bypass
hi thank you i repair EVL but now i have problems whith airbag light , how i can delete this fault. thank you in advance.
for airbag u need to use a scanner tool that can reset... or go to closest mechanic and ask them to do for you ..will be cheap.. the airbag light is from removing the airbag before disconnecting battery..or after disconnecting battery u didn't wait til all voltage discharged first
The four screws are stuck and the special tool can’t get them out. Is there any other way to get them out please?
hey mate usually the best way is to push in then pull out as u turn , if that doesnt work try with a t5 torx bit , tap it in abit with a hammer, not too much just enough to grip and then turn slowly as u pull
2 great videos mate! Thanks
thanks mate much appreciated
MIKEYZ: Thanks a lot for the video. I am missing one information on your video.
W204 4matic : While removing steering Wheel Column there are two electrical connectors ( one on steering wheel adjustment motor top of the column and other motor in the bottom )you never mentioned. Do you know how to remove these electrical connectors ( I am not talking about steering wheel connector).
connector showing up on your HOW TO remove fix ESL/ELV/EIS w204 w212 C E class mercedes benz common fault Part 2 frame Time clip 5:25/19:18 the gray connector with yellow wire and red wrap. Need to know how to remove this connector. Can't find any tab to press to remove the connector.
I never removed that wire plug i only removed the white one which connects to esl module..but its looks like all u need to do it press either a tab or pry apart ... its a connector so its only going to disconnect two ways either a clip or a tab that's it..what's the theb19:18 time stamp for ? that's the end of the video already
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ : Thanks MIKEYZ! I was referring to 5:25 clip only. My ELV is in locked position i need to remove the steering column. I followed all your instructions. i am only stuck with these two connectors. I will try to remove connectors this weekend. You sounds very knowledgeable person in the video. Please let me know if you figure out how to remove these connectors.
@@bharatc1330 it won't be hard to remove but cuz I never removed them i am not sure ..but most connectors will work the same way where there's either a tab or a clip
Hi,Thanks a lot for this video.Great jobs just one Question where i can get Emulator to check ESL or Elv what can Advice for me and thx
i think u may be after a different device... do u mean the device to check esl and eis to make sure that it works and can read esl with key? they are hard to find but if u look on sites like aliexpress.... i dont have one but im sure you can find it on aliexpress .... hope it helps...im not too sure where to get one exactly but i would start there
I have fi ally got on the ESL but the pins won't builder are they threaded? And if so turn anti clockwise or clockwise? Many thanks 😊
are u talking about the pins that hold in together ? if so u turn counter clockwise and pull as u turn and it will slowly come out
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Are they threaded. They just won't come out. There must be a technique to it
@@telboy3346 no threads u have to get a t5 torx and tap it in so it grabs it and that's why u pull and twist at the same time so it's gripping and ur pulling slowly so it doesn't just lose grip and slowly it comes out..like I show in the video.. but there's also a tool u can use which is shaped precise to grip and able to turn it and remove it too
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks I purchased the tool with the point. The pins spin but won't come out. Im going to pop out and a T5 instead. Fingers crossed
I'm still fighting with it. Got 2x out. The next one is soaking in WD40
Thank you so much 🙏
u are most welcome dear friend ... your support is most appreciated ..that's what this channel is all about helping other w204 owners
I got quoted $2700 for a new steering wheel at Mercedes dealer. Please help… the car was in great condition before I turned the wheels too far. I cannot afford this repair.. I paid $4000 for extended warranty on the vehicle and OF COURSE they are saying it’s not covered!
Do you need to reprogram? If you replace motor in esl
Just motor...no
Hi Mikeyz, thank you for your detail explanation
My esl was locked so I got to get the whole column out. The problem is that as I removed the 4 bolts, the whole shaft came off the boot. Now to put it back, does it have to be a specific way? How can we make sure that the steering will be proper? Thanks,
I'm pretty sure it only sits in one way from memory ... I remembered wen I took mine out by mistake I had a hard time getting it back in .. but eventually I managed to get it in and it sat a specific way .. just e sure your steering wheel is straight and it should sit correctly .. because urs is locked. u should be able to sit it back in the way it came out
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you, I look at the tube that came off the boot, there is a rubber washer on the tube; however I don't see anything that will lock it in place (inside of the boot). That being said, I'll try to put it back in the morning to see if it makes sense. Every other video shows to remove a bolt before the boot (along with 4 bolts on the frame), which I never did, to take out the steering column. Not sure how mine came out so easily?
@Florida Person ye ur suppose to remove that bolt first .. but I guess if u loosen the column enough it cN just pop out
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you. I got them all in. Forgot to mention that my ESL board is the bad part (lucky me :-). I ended up getting an emulator, and it's all working fine.
I'm not sure about undertaking this job. Some people say you don't have to remove the airbag and or steering column. Does it matter what model car it is or not? I have an E350 and a SLK that both have developed this problem. Are they the same to repair? How much would the dealer charge and do they require all new parts not just the motor?
I do that so i can loosen the column and have more room ...after all im just a diyer i dont have mechanical training and i just research learn and gibe it a go then share my experience...yes your car would be similar to repair same issue ..the dealer or ahould i say stealer will charge from 1500 - 2500 depends where u are ..rural they charge more .... these are prices ive heard through my subs
if I want to remove the EIS only, is the steering wheel the biggest item to remove?
if it's just the eis u can do it alone without removing anything else
i dont think i could do this job .... what would you recommend for a beginner diy like myself?? i would be too scared to ruin the chip or the module or break something ...my skill level isnt very high ....but you have made me want to try ....
just remember to go slow take your time, and if you get stuck at least you know there is always help a phone call away...or msg me and i can assist the best i can
but i also strongly suggest that if your not comfortable with taking apart the esl then do not do it..its abit more complicated then expected...and if you get one thing wrong putting it back together, you can fry a chip or relay and then you have to take it to someone top fix anyway ofcourse
Good job bro lot of thanks
Moat wwlcome
good tutorial
How do you test the EIS/ESL with the battery connected but without the airbag and steering wheel? Won't that throw an airbag code?
yes i did it in mycase because i have a reset tool... but itsbetter then having to put it all back together and then disassemble all over again if u have a fault
Great videos. Can we just repair the esl with new motor and not install the esl back to where it usually goes and just leave it to the side somewhere? So if motor goes bad again it is easy access to esl. Will the car still start this way? Not using emulator . Thanks
in theory yes u can .. however understabd that ur steering wheel will not lock anymore ... that exactly how an emulator works... it replaces the esl and u no longer have a locked steering wheel wen u lock car .. in theory that will work .. cuz all thT matters is that the signal is sent to the ecu telling it that the key is entered and registered and u caN start the car ... i dont see why it wouldnt work ... but i guess its up to you what u decide .. for example when i fixed my esl i tried to start the car by testing without reinstalling the esl module and it started no worries ...
Thank you
Great job
when you put comments or extra guidance on the screen, can you please leave them for a bit longer as it is hard to read them so fast and you have to rewind to finish reading. thanks
ok i will do that for other videos... i just figured u can pause if u want to read them. and i didnt want to block the picture any longer then need be....but i will try leave then guidelines longer friend..no worries.... hope the videos are helpful
Thanks , this tool you use in this video 8 minutes 30 s
ahh i see .... its called a thumb ratchet and i just connect it to a 3" long 3/8" extension and a size 10mm socket..... ebay have plenty of them...... .im sure your country have it ......it should be in your automotive store, if not i always use ebay or amazon..... its a good place to search, amazon is very big in USA but here in Australia, not yet ....just look for thumb ratchet
www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=THUMB+RATCHET&_sacat=0
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ not ever seen this kind of tool , ratchet keys yes of course , but not like this one . ah you are in Australia, I thought you were in England , I love your country it is a very beautiful country . Thanks for the info will see about Ebay , thanks again champion
thank u my friend you are very kind...england definately has them i see on ebay...i hope u can find them they are very useful and come in handy
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Hello my friend , I ordered on Amazon , I had to do several searches to be able to pay in Euro because it was not possible otherwise , thanks again for all your precious advice . 'Heard about the TV 'it was very hot right now in Australia a lot of courage to you and your loved ones
yes atm its very very hot...so hard for me to shoot my videos in such hot heat ..lol..but i will continue to do so .... your support means the world to me mate... and i wish you all the best on your journey to fix it..but rest assured buddy it can and will be fixed..do not let one issue deter you from owning a beautiful Mercedes Benz
Hello Mickeyz: Some people say that the NEC chip counts the number of starts, and that there is a limit to the number of starts (programmed obsolescence). So some recommend installing an emulator, instead of repairing the ELS. Do you have any information about this?
I wasnt aware of that ... but as far as i know an emator would be beneficial in that no longer have the motor and no motor means no moving parts to fail so its a good idea but ur wheel will no longer lock
If mine fails again i may just go with an emulator
If you disconnected the battery from negative and removed the airbag stuff from steering wheel I got some airbag error codes but the obd port hasn't got power so can't clear them what do I do?
After about a minute I removed the electrical connections to the airbag steering wheel
@@harrisquayum766 u didn't wait 20 mins for all ppwer to discharge that's why u get error code... u need to get s scanner tool and reset airbag code
I needed Location of Central Gateway (ZGW) in benz c200 w209.can you help me?
hey bud not sure what u mean, are u trying to code?? or do u mean where the esl modeule is in a w209?? cuz in that case im not too sure as i only work on my own w204, wish i could be more helpful , but im only working on the w204 atm and w23 so all other models are very new to me aswell and i dont have one to work on so i would never feel comfortable giving advice on a issue i haven't worked on myself , sincerely mikey
Can you confirm if you still got the car and if the motor failed again ?
yep still good mate
Great video Mikeyz. My car is starting to display the not starting issue. I got it started bu tapping the steering column. So something is sticking. So do I have to remove the EIS too or just replace the motor?
u just need to replace the motor in the esl module ... and I showed how to remove the eis for ppl who are sending their unit off to get fixed...if u are replacing the motor in your esl ... u dont have to remove the eis...
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ cleaning the gears of the old grease should be done. What's your opinion about that Mikey? I had to visit a mechanic, mine did not work after placing thinks back. That's why I think the old grease may be an issue.
@@fitzphillips5370 I doubt the grease was the reason why things didnt work ..In a case like that I assume it's just due to I correct placement of the esl circuit board and ensuring the switches were depressed wen resembling the esl module back together which is why I always say make sure u pay attention to detail...did u manage to find out where u went wrong ...just so it can help others too
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ the mechanic said there was a problem with the EIS and I have to pay $150 more. When the mechanic was testing the esl they tapped it several times with a screw driver and the key until it worked consistently. I told him not to install it on the column so them installed in some where in a cavity for easy access. For years I was getting a red warning light while driving the car "key not detected" with the key fob button. I'm still getting this error message intermittanty as before. Soooooo what was wrong with the original Eis? Have you ever encountered this error message with the push button while driving? I need to revisit this mechanic to tell him my findings.
Phillips can't say I've ever had that issue ... are u sure its esl related solely sounds like it could be the eis which reads the key ... I hope it gets sorted for u asap...
yes my c200 had ths problem & cost me RM1400.
i know its a pain isnt it friend
Hi Mikeyz,
Nice video Part1, and part2 as well. At the same time I have a question, which i also posted in Part1. Question is : after i
1. removed ESL ( MB c300 w204 2011 ) exactly according to your video part1,
2. replaced the motor inside of ESL ( replaced properly, ESL is in unlock position now, and it was in unlock position when i removed it ),
3. checked if PIN can be pushed in ok in newly assembled ESL,
4. connected ESL to car, connected steering column, airbag, instrumental cluster ( connected to test ESL ),
5. connected battery Minus,
6. turned the car key ( key was all this time inserted ) - two first times instrumental console was showing same message as before repair, than it went completely dark like key is not in car.
... so my question is - should I reprogram the ESL+ EIS now ? Since i did not install new ESL, only replaced motor - it should not be required. ESL/EIS reprogramming is needed only when we put new ESL ( new chips ) into car ... but in my case, after just replacing the motor, i seems face the need to remove and reprogram ESL/EIS ?
in your case friend what you should do is now take the esl and eis to key specialist and let them fix it.... im sorry to say that something must have went wrong when you replace the motor.... it seems like a very easy job but the smallest mistake will make the ESL not work ...if you take it all apart and bring the esl and eis to a speciallist it should be very cheap maybe around 200 max compared 1500... i hope this helps and u get it fixed asap....
After your repair Dimitri, did you by any chance remove the key after connecting the battery and reinsert it?
Not sure why, but I have had to do this every time I have had an esl repaired. (I'm a mechanic and specialise in Merc's)
I'm interested to know your answer so that I can be confident enough to try this repair myself. Thanks.
And great video Mikey. Very well done!!
I suspect the software in the NEC security chip expects the state of the ESL to be in the locked position, not like in your case it being unlocked. When you put the key in, the motor pulls the lock back and that is the noise you hear.
What I suspect with the advice of the grey pin (of the limit switch) to be depressed, is the following:
Turn the wheel until the spring-loaded lock is fully out, that is the locked state the chip expects before start. In that case the grey pin of the limit switch on the outside has to be depressed to switch off the motor during the final locking. Put in the new motor. Now comes the "depressing" part, which I have not done yet. To install the circuit board may mean pushing back the grey pin of the limit switch with a small screw driver, so it fits in at the post and is depressed and the circuit board can now be dropped in with the aid of the corner pin and the two pins providing power to the motor.
I believe the NEC chip sees the grey pin of the middle limit switch not depressed (= switch ON) and turns the motor in the correct rotation to pull the locking pin back at start-up. The middle grey pin will eventually be "depressed" (=switch OFF) and the motor stops having pulled the lock back. The external limit switch is depressed (= switch OFF) at the start.
IMHO, if the NEC chip's program does not see that state of the limit switches on start-up, it gets confused and does not do anything, I do not believe it burns out then. This former IT lecturer believes at start-up, the logic of the firmware is:
If external grey pin is depressed, switch on motor to pull lock back until middle limit switch pin is hit to stop motor - the UNLOCKING process.
If middle grey pin is depressed, switch on motor to push lock out until external limit switch pin is hit to stop motor- the LOCKING process.
My motor died half way, so locking pin is half out and I suspect that would also confuse the NEC chip as both grey pins are not depressed in that position, but the circuit board falls in rather nicely and that is depressing!
I hope MIKEYZ agrees with my logic as it probably fixes some of the complaints of: "I put the motor in and it does not work"?
J Sav. Did you get the ESL to work ? Im curious. So make sure to pushbthe two pins in befire setting the board. Put key in ignition abd reconnect battery. Pull the key out and then try starting car correct? How do you do this with out the column in and everything back together.
It seems like my screw does move free, but it doesn't go in flush to slide back into its spot.
If I buy a new esl will I have to program it to my car ?
yes friend because your buying a 2nd hand or a new ESL it will definitely need to be programmed to sync with your specific cars eis .... that way they will be able to recognise each other and the cars ecu... if u were only to replace the motor in your esl after it fails then reprogramming would not be needed as u are only replacing the motor .... however with that said if u fail to open your esl properly u could damage your chip in the esl a d would need a new chip ..hence why some ppl need to have them reprogrammed
Good evening, thank you for the video. Please, can you give me a device ? My Mercedes (E) year 2008 has the Wheel bloccked and now I can't open,
I can't start, I can't turn the Wheel,
How to fix It ?
Thank you for any device.
Best regards.
u mean steering wheel is locked ? can u start car
Do you have to put the esl back in its place? Or can you just replace motor and place somewhere on kick plate?
u must put the esl back into place so the locking mechanism can lock the steering wheel... kick plate? .... with a esl bypass you could place it anywhere as its just a bypass module but with the factory esl you should put it back as it was .....
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ .. Im about to tackle the ESL motor replacement watching your video.. My question is can I zip tie the new ESL under the steering column instead of putting it back into the column.. I know the steering wheel will not lock and Im okay with that
Did you zip tie it? Dud ut work? Dont think you can. There is a bolt holding it correct in position?
Hello Mickeyz: Thank you for your kindly answer. I have two more questions, My car is in unlocked position, just now. Do I need , during the procedure, to mantain the key inside the EIS or this is irrelevant? and When I put the new motor in the ELS what must be the position of the big gear?
No key can be removed wen starting procedure... as for position when u rekove the esl make sure u take note of how everything is seated ... i also show a pic of how it all should be fitted in the video...
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank a lot.
Ur most welcome friend
What does it mean when the key doesn't turn from the off position to the on position like its stuck on the off?
honestly not too sure ... but I presume it's related to the barrel and eis electronic ignition switch ... better to do some digging via the net and also use the forums its a great place to ask years of professionals
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thank you. I will dig up some more information. And thanks for the video it help me out on getting things apart.
@@jorgemat8080 ur more then welcome friend
Hi Mikey... I am stuck atm ... I have removed the nut from the bolt of the esl ... when I depress the bolt in ... I can't seem to get it in far enough through the sleeve... I can actually feel the hole of the back plate of the sleeve while depressing bolt in .. but can't push any further because.... I think my hand is to big to push the nut in those extra few mm 🤔 any tips please ... driving me nuts
lol u sure ur esl is unlocked ... if so ..I used a tool to do it.. anything that is solid and small enough to fit..small screwdriver stubby one...
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks mate ill give it a crack tomorrow 👍🏽
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ would the nut depress right in ... if it was locked still
@Smooth Rider no it's won't... its has to be unlocked for the nut to completely depress
I have important question. After installing new motor and then I would like to test, do I insert key in igition and then connect battery? Not sure cause I disconnected battery with key in igition unlocked position. Anyone help
yes friend in order to test that everything works well u have no choice but to connect the battery and insert key and remove key ..welcome to the channel hope u can subscribe...some say that you shouldn't connect the battery with the key in the ignition barrel but as long as u have everything installed correctly and ur sure .... it wont matter.... because I did exactly that and no issue arose from it
Mikeyz, I just found your video. I cannot get the esl motor to spin 1 more time to unlock. Will I be able to still remove the esl in the locked position?
Should I have the battery disconnected when I am disconnecting the airbag and clockspring.?
yes batt disconnected ... did u make sure you disconnect after u insert key so esl is unlocked
Great video. IJust had this same issue today 🙁 it looks easy when ur a profi as u are, but if you take it to someone to repair it.. how much would such repair cost?
Ty 🙏🏻
anywhere from 1000 to 1750 I was quoted 1750 if unlocked and if locked 2000
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Not the answer I would has liked to hear 🤦♂️🤦♂️but thank you ❤️
I'm not a professional ... I. a simple diyer and just did it by following someone write up .. with pics .. and. ecuz I managed to do it I wanted to do this video to show if someone like me with no mechanical background can do it so can everyone else willing to have a go... it does seem abit involved but like anything practice makes perfect ... first time I did it.. it took 3 hrs ... 2nd time an hr ..now I can do it in about 30mins cuz I know exactly what I need to do ... I'm no professional... fully self taught ... hence why I started this channel to help other in my situation save $$$$
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ ohh really!! Nicee!! Now im curious, how much did u spent in parts? Cuz the labor u dis for yourself
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ what do u mean by locked or unlocked? 🤔
Hi there. Can you remove the esl cable without doing all of this or is it also impossible to get to?
I think u can yes...
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ sounds positive, I just want to get to the cable and add emulator, I don't need to remove the actual original esl. Fingers crossed. Thanks for the vid!
@@mreveritt89 yes I understand what ur trying to do and I think u just might be able to..if u can't..many ppl have had success adding emulator this way...even stating that they didn't have to remove anything at all..just simply unplug esl module.... although I always thought if u were getting an emulator u needed to have ur key and esl handy inorder to have it coded and synced... that was my understanding
Hi, I see you liked my previous comment but can you please let me know the answer as I wont bother to attempt it otherwise. Will you be able to test the ESL with the battery disconnected?
Thanks
hey buddy om sorry o thought i did answer... u habe to reconnect the battery to test it as u need power for it to work
Hey Mikey do you think you can test the esl without putting it back I position or does the nut act as a earth too ?
u can test it without putting it back
So I just removed the 13 mm nut hold the esl in place but when I try and push on the bolt it was on it only depresses half way not all the way in please help....
means your esl not completely unlocked all the way
wait. im about to begin this job myself. dont try talking me out of it. I can do it. but lol I have heard that if the key isnt able to turn, that I wont be able to get it off. im confused I had my keys made new and programmed by mercedes. then the new key wouldnt program cuz the car didnt recognize it???? none of my keys turn in the eis. so naturally I sent the eis for repair. turns out to be fine they said but they sent me a new key with it. no keys still work with it when I get it. they said it should work fine. so I assume at this point my steering lock is bad. so... how do I do this? do I need to do anything else? or just follow this video ?
well, if the esl is malfunctioned then the key would still turn it just wont start the car , and hence u dont get ignition or accessories power... in your case where the key isnt recognised , it is also due to this malfunction, for eg. wen ur esl goes bad, the car doesnt even recognise the key and asks for you to insert the key eventhough the key is in the ignition.. so i wouold guess that your issue was the esl all along.. to do this fix many have simply followed my video and had great success.. i would encourage you to do so as well rather then paying mercedes or a locksmith speclist for automobiles to charge you anywhere from 750 to 1750 ..so yes you just need to follow this video and it will help you successfully complete this fix ..g'luck all the best ..u can do it
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ I appreciate your for taking time to help. its a lil scary. but ill let you know when I succeed. thanks.
Good afternoon can you tell me how can I get my esl unlock I tried tapping it didn’t work can I open it up and plug it in to press the buttons and unlock it manually then pull the plug out
u can do that but it's more involved ..if u can't unlock esl then u may need to drill a small hole to manually physically turn it with a pick or small flathead screwdriver google it and ull see pocs and info about how ppl demote it locked
Mikeyz! I have Mercedes 2010 C300. My EIS ignition switch needs to be removed and sending it to pre-program . I was instructed to remove the cluster first, then remove two screws which hold aaluminum bracket ( only Mercedes in America has this protective bracket). Is it true? I have a problem to remove it now.
no u can remove both the eis and esl if u need to with special tools or brackets holding them in
Hello! Well I stripped the 4 screws to open the esl box to replace the motor just wondering if anyone had any advice what I should do? Would really appreciate it!
what did u use
got a question for you, i didn't realize my steering was locked, I used forced and turned it to the right a few times, now steering is straight but tires still turned all the way to one direction. Did i break something? and did I mess it up the alignment? tips on how to fix please. thank you
wen u turn the wheel now does it turn ur wheels? if not then u broke something.. most likely the lock for steering wheel...
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ no it doesn’t Lol, if it’s the lock I guess it’s fine because I am going to replace it with an emulater I just worried that I messed up the shaft now, this just happened 4 hours ago on my birthday Lol
@@jrjunior1229 happy birthday man... hope u have a great day ..all the best ..best wishers to you ...im so sorry to hear it happened on this day of all the days!!! but rest assured very fixable.. yes an emulator is a good idea. its what i will consider once my esl goes out again ....
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ yo thanks brother, i am almost half way done, how you know my birthday lol
@@jrjunior1229 happy bday to u..u told me in the laat msg lol
Hey Mikeyz, did you ever end up replacing the ESL with the ESL emulator? I'm currently at 161,000KMs on my 2010 C300 and am considering swapping out the ESL motor before I get stranded or just completely bypassing the ESL and never having to worry about being stranded. Do you think deleting the ESL with the emulator is a safe option?
Thanks!
its not a bad option definitely a good option becuz less moving parts means less failure of mechanical parts like the motor.. I never ended up getting the enulator yet ..I will once this motor goes...becuz I don't want to deal with the issue again
Can you please let me kno where u got this emulator this will save huge hassle in the future
I do have a question as I'm in the process of changing out the motor. The original motor is still working but I got my first fault earlier this week so I just want to replace quickly so that I'm not stranded. So back to my question?? I placed the key in the EIS and it unlocked. I then removed the battery cables. I"ve replaced the motor and have installed the ESL. Should I place the key back in the EIS and turn to the position it was in when I disconnected the battery before reconnecting the battery and testing? Or will this matter??
u can just place the key back into the ignition barrel ... that's when it unlocks so it will be in the same unlocked position ... then reconnect everything and remove the key and it should lock again ... once you hear the locking mechanism you know you've struck gold and u did it .... imho..yes you should have everything as it was when u disconnected the battery
I replaced my motor and it still won't start. any suggestions or do i have to get an emulator?
dis u ensure that u pressed down on the 2 lil grey switches ... when u reinstalled the esl..and waa it unlocked wen u opened it? u may have just did something a lil off
where can you buy the motor and how much is it?
Ebay aliexpress cost about $10 to $80 depends who u buy from ... but in my honest opinion they are all the same so long as u buy the right one for your make and model and year
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Hope my 2004 w211 is like this sending it out with key for duplicate
it's gona be fine
Does esl still work without the battery connected
no unfortunately not i meant to say once everything is done u reconnect ypur battery and try it before u put it all back together
When I went to try and unlock my steering column with the rubber hammer trick, I had keys in ignition. It unlocked, so I pulled keys out of ignition first, then I went to remove negative battery terminal. When I finish, do I need to have keys out of ignition when connecting since that is how it was before disconnecting? Or should I still have the key in the ignition when reconnecting anyway? Really don’t want to fry anything here.
This is for just the ESL motor fix not the emulator fix.
@@AlboEagle001 yes emulator ull need it to be coded
u need to dosco next the battery with the keys in the ignition.. wen u pull the key out it will lock again. wen u reconnect the battery u need to have the key in the ignition so the esl is recognising the same cycle lock and unlock
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ yeah I just checked and I believe it is locked again, can I just tap on esl again and get it to unlock one more time and leave keys in ignition or does it definitely have to be coded now?
@@AlboEagle001ye its ok u can just put ut key in and repeat.. leave key in once it's unlocked disconnect battery
Did the esl motor ever go out after replacing?! I have c300 manual tryna do this part just waiting on the part to come in.
since replacing no .. hasnt failed since ..I'm guessing it will last at least 2 to 5 years ...that's just a guess..it is the most frequently used motor ... everytime u insert and remove key it turns
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ ok bet I’ll let you know know how it goes !
@@jameskenneth7823 no worries buddy..wish u all the best ...my advice is if you get stuck or frustrated step back breathe and then come back to it..it really helps ... dont go all oout unless you know exactly what your doing...never just try to pull or pry something out that doesnt remove that way..u will break something..everything has its owm way of being removed ..just gotta figure out how to get to it and do it.. ull be fine mate..all th best
Whitout remove stearing wheel possible to remove this esl module?
i think so but just makea it abit harder to get out
By any chance does any one know where i can order that small motor
ebay or aliexpress
All four screws are stuck on the esl
Saved me alot of stress bud, where exactly did u hit with the rubber end hammer to shock the motor?
im so glad friend ....i believe in sharing the knowledge so we can all save some money......so ....directly under where the esl is located...... tap......its in this video actually........ an arrow appears on the screen at 5:53 exactly........ check it out dear friend i hope that helps...
You are one of a kind....I don't know how I could have missed that...I'll definitely give it a try and give u a feedback. God bless you Sir keep up. I am more than happy to subscribe to your channel.
your too kind mate, im just glad i could help someone, even if it is one person ..its all worth it to me, cuz i know how it feels to be left in the dark with no one to help...now thanks to platforms like TH-cam we can all share experiences ...this channel was built for you guys and dedicated to you guys as well...in order to share the knowledge and help other ppl save money and give tips and tricks on how to fix certain issues where MERCEDES STEALERSHIPS WOULD CHARGE OUTRAGEOUS $$$$$AMOUNTS$$$$$$ FOR.... hence why i started this channel...im so happy to have you as part of my channel..... your LIKES, SHARES, AND COMMENTS will keep me thriving to make more videos to help anyone else out there that may need help in certain areas...so thank you sir.... ITS TRULY IS MY PLEASURE....
Hello my friend, I've tried to use this method, though it didn't work on my C300. Maybe am doing it wrong or something?
im sorry to hear that sometimes it doesn't always work , so make sure your prepared, it happens by chance also , which is why i said in the video that it inst the case for everyone , i think you have to keep trying put your key in the ignition and tap, with an actual hammer and a rubber hammer also, a metal hammer would be bit better cuz more vibration, just don't break anything, try it with key not in ignition as well, pls understad sometimes this happens by fluke, and, may i ask how long this has been happening for??? maybe your ESL has completely malfunctioned, and in that case you would have to remove the entire steering column which i am not comfortable with, let me do some research and try give you more tips
you are hero
thanks man much appreciated im just glad ppl.can get some use from the videosn
He s hero
I am trying to get the esl back in , does that pin suppose go in fully or should remain little bit out
which pin
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ bolt with the spring. Is it supposed to go in fully while installing it back. Also, should I keep the esl in locked position before I install it
@@bhavneetbatra7506 should be unlocked
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ Thank you for your help
@@bhavneetbatra7506 welcome
How do you remove the steering column?
the four bolts i loosened and then u just loosen the one at the steerinf shaft connects too and u just pull it out
Hey mike just wondering what grease you used for the esl ?
just grease for plastic part u can use ptfe grease as long as it's for plastic moving parts I used what had lying around which was silicone grease
@@MIKEYZVLOGZ thanks mate your a legend
@@rainbowkidstoys2771 ur welcome
Mikey just one last thing if your esl is in the unlock position do you leave the wheel next to the esl motor in the same position or do you have to turn it as I have seen other videos where people turn the wheel until it is in the locked position again
@@rainbowkidstoys2771 if your eal is u locked then I leave it in the unlocked position... whichever position you disconnected the battery in the esl should be in that position wen you reconnect the battery