3 Things I Wish I Knew. DO NOT Go Into Cyber Security Without Knowing!

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  • @iamnopo12
    @iamnopo12 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Just got my first job in tech support, still studying and going after my certs so I can land a cyber job in the future. Love the content, keep up the good work!

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thank you for watching 💚and Congratz!! Don't stop learning and don't stay in the tech support job longer than you should! If you're actively learning and have a solid understanding of what goes into being a security analyst, start applying after any certs you obtain or after 6 months in the tech support role (if you've been self learning the whole time of course). Don't sell yourself short, if you've been putting in the work and know you can do the job, the only thing stopping you from your next security role is that application you haven't yet submitted.

    • @xCheddarB0b42x
      @xCheddarB0b42x ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Get out of tech support as fast as possible before it grinds you down.
      Build a home cyber lab. It is a lot easier these days to do some tinkerin' thanks to virtualization, some of which is FreEe33Eeee...
      Get Security+.
      So some quality interview prep. I like "Knock 'em Dead" for general prep, but do technical prep too. Practice answering the questions with a friend.
      With Security+ and some hands on knowledge from your home lab, say with free Splunk or Snort and some pcap, you are ready for SOC Analyst 1. You just are. Ask for 50 to 70k per year. Anything lower is a rip off; we know it, HR knows it, the Hiring Manager knows it, and the demand is very high. Keep grinding, and good luck!

    • @asuohadennis7594
      @asuohadennis7594 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​​@@xCheddarB0b42x.... Thanks for this.
      Please can I use you as a mentor please please

    • @claussanta2341
      @claussanta2341 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's grinding already

  • @drickzee
    @drickzee ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Yes. I always say it depends on how much someone knows before getting into cybersecurity.
    If you don't know enough about computers to do basic troubleshooting, consider CompTIA A+, study it well, pass the exam, then apply for Helpdesk to gain more hands-on experience, then gradually learn to move up. This will help you decide which area you want to focus on.
    If you're good with computers but never did helpdesk and want to get into cybersecurity, get your certifications going, learn, do some projects and apply. Don’t forget to network with other people as well. This is for your own good, and don't rush into it; you may come to realise that this isn't what you wanted to do

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I wholeheartedly agree! 💚 There's no "easy in" and people need to research, learn, and pick a specialization!

    • @joaoribeiro4827
      @joaoribeiro4827 ปีที่แล้ว

      When u speak about projects are u referring like htb machines? If not can specify a bit more pls.

  • @thebadgladdadd5218
    @thebadgladdadd5218 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Dude i love the videos.
    Im currently working a hard ass low paying construction job. About 750 a week on a good week. Barely enough to support my family. Im currently saving to buy a cheap laptop and learning python and sql on my phone as much as i can. Also looking at the things you touch on. And im hungry to learn all of this i can. Im 40 and want a great lufe for my family and youre are really helping keep it uo

    • @Crown42
      @Crown42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You got this, I was a construction worker and I decided to go back to school to get my computer science degree. Now I work remotely making good money.
      I hate blue-collar work. I just did it because I'm a convicted felon and those are the jobs that you normally would do as a felon.
      I did construction for 5 years and I regret it every day. I'm glad that I'm doing something that I love and have a passion for.
      I hope the best for you bud!
      Best of luck with your goals,

  • @konovo223
    @konovo223 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for uploading consistently. I personally appreciate the inside view you provide, and that helps me alot with my own worries. I have a 3 year old son, and after loosing my 2 year old cousin i felt like i wasnt doing enough for them or myself. I started the thinkful cyber security certification last month and still have a ways to go. I felt lost and alot of pressure to do something with this certificate when i do earn it... then i found your videos. The insite on your life and how i could relate in many ways was a releif to me. I honestly felt like i needed to know a masters level of knowledge to evwn have a chance but seeing that consistently working toward it can get you a job reassured me. I can work hard but that thought of "will i ever be good enough" kinda left my mind... so again thank you.

  • @Trapan93
    @Trapan93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the info here! I'm trying to break into the cyber security biz after almost 10 years of general IT experience (tier 2 desktop support at corporate office). The one thing I'm scared of is taking a pay cut since I've built up my pay over the years. I'm working on getting my Sec+ and google Sec certs to start with, and adding some hack the box projects and other things I can do on my own to hopefully make my resume more attractive, but the looming thought in my mind is, will I be able to get over 70k (roughly where I'm at now) without any cybersecurity experience itself. this pretty much keeps me up at night at this point since i need to do SOMETHING to get out of this nowhere job I'm in now.

  • @spartan076
    @spartan076 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Found your channel this morning. I love your energy and sense of humor! On the serious side I love how frank you are about the process of general Cyber. I’ve wanted to commit to Cyber for many years but, I am afraid to leave my current high paying job for a low paying entry level position. Despite that I plan on taking courses and pursuing certifications for future planing. Thanks for making these videos!

  • @brahimayoada2657
    @brahimayoada2657 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re a true hero! A lot of other TH-camrs make it look like entry level cyber jobs wants unicorns. i’m glad I stumbled On your channel. Thank you a million times 🎉🎉🎉🎉. You help me get rid of 80% of my imposter syndrome

  • @CyberFraudDawg
    @CyberFraudDawg ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I certainly have set my expectations of what I think I need to know before applying too high. After A+, Network+, Security+, and CySA+ I still don't feel qualified for entry level. Thanks for sharing real content on what your experience has been. Hopefully soon, I will get that one "yes" I need to enter the field.

    • @sasalivancic8127
      @sasalivancic8127 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dude, you have all those certifications?

    • @dip9995
      @dip9995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Security analyst is pretty entry level you’re qualified

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      As the other replies have implied/said, you are ready! Apply like a mad person to every and any security analyst job you see (I applied to 1,000 and had only a handful of replies). Best of luck, I know you'll nail the interviews with those certs backing you up!

    • @dip9995
      @dip9995 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@madhatistaken That's wild you applied to 1000. I applied to 22 analyst roles before getting the job I hold now, and my experience was very limited.

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@dip9995 I only applied to remote positions and most of them were pretty quick applications on Indeed, Ziprecruiter, Monster, etc. where all they needed was my resume and at most a few answers to questions. I'd say I spent over 50 total hours applying over the course of a month. I don't know if my resume was terrible, but it was very demoralizing 😅

  • @Squinkle
    @Squinkle ปีที่แล้ว

    this just showed up in my recommendation, good stuff / advice big dawg

  • @BreakingBread443
    @BreakingBread443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing content and amazing information! Love the perspective you bring!

  • @reol2559
    @reol2559 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeah thanks you , i'm currently learning stuff like ccna , ccna cyberops and certificated in cybersecurity program from ISC2 . still in college till July, i hope i would get a job like helpdesk or network engineer

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jump right into cyber! Or network engineer, that's also fun 😅

  • @korndoggs
    @korndoggs ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. This is really encouraging.

  • @thelitepredator
    @thelitepredator ปีที่แล้ว

    No problem you got it I love your videos I subscribed. Plusyou are very funny with your jokes 😊.

  • @jesseC0806
    @jesseC0806 ปีที่แล้ว

    The transparency we needed! Thank you!

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With great anonymity comes great transparency 😅 Thank you for watching! 💚

    • @jesseC0806
      @jesseC0806 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madhatistaken 😂🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @TylerVonHarz
    @TylerVonHarz ปีที่แล้ว

    Hilariously informative my dude!

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was somewhat helpful 😅 Thank you for watching! 💚

  • @hankmoody5514
    @hankmoody5514 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think i'll start in help desk, but I won't stay for long at all. Maybe like a few months

  • @luispintor9136
    @luispintor9136 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes do more. I’m currently starting my journey as an SOC analyst. I didn’t know about this websitr

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have subbed and will soon be on the leaderboard 😅 🤞

  • @mr.popcorn7010
    @mr.popcorn7010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally agree thought I would get way more pay out the gate. Really difficult industry to get into from the outside almost entirely because someone just has better resources. OSCP is upwards of a 1000, and there's no guarantee you'll pass. What do you think about TCM certs that are out now?

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven't really heard of those certs, checked them out just now and they look nicely modernized with graphics and merch. I tend to gravitate towards the widely known certs that appear in job listings (which do tend to cost alot). There's so many cert options and bootcamps because of how lucrative the teaching space is for cyber and coding atm, so every company/start up wants a piece of the pie. There could be more educational and easy to learn programs, but the ones that have been commercialized/advertised longer hold more weight sadly. So CompTIA, CEH, OSCP, CISSP, etc. make you stand out, but TCM might not. You still stand a chance landing an interview with "offbrand" certs though, it still offers the knowledge you'd need to do the job.

    • @mr.popcorn7010
      @mr.popcorn7010 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@madhatistaken Solid advice bro, completly agree.

    • @thomascrownbuerger
      @thomascrownbuerger ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mr.popcorn7010 Sometimes we have to ask ourselves what's important to us. Are we chasing what we think offers the best material and experience, or what is most known by people working in HR who may not be familiar with the material at an intimate level? Maybe I'm inadvertently in a bubble, but names I trust speak highly of TCM and what they're doing (the courses and the PNPT). The courses are $30 each (total of 5 recommended for the PNPT; although you can bundle 4 for $80, so you're at $110 for 5). The PNPT is $300 and you get a free retry if you fail. The OSCP definitely has name recognition of course if that's what's primarily important to you.
      For something a bit more blue-focused, there's BHIS Antisyphon, which John Hammond has spoken highly in favor of. They recently had a pay-what-you-can for SOC skills and have another entry security class starting tomorrow taught by John Strand. To my understanding, although it's taught live you have access to the recordings for maybe 6 months. But you have to sign up before the class starts, so this is, uh, very late notice!
      www.blackhillsinfosec.com/pnpt-certification-review/
      www.antisyphontraining.com/getting-started-in-security-with-bhis-and-mitre-attck-w-john-strand/

    • @mr.popcorn7010
      @mr.popcorn7010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thomascrownbuerger Thanks man! Great resources! TCM is picking up a lot of steam and might be a great way for future students who don't have the high levels of money to spend on certifications by Offsec. I am studying for their Malware Analysis certification at the moment.

    • @mr.popcorn7010
      @mr.popcorn7010 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Incredible resource, wish TH-cam had more of an open forum to share this kind of information.

  • @ruslanbedoev9264
    @ruslanbedoev9264 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man you are a true 💎💎💎💎
    thank you

  • @vithursan.b
    @vithursan.b ปีที่แล้ว

    im about to complete a certificate degree in computer science this summer and I have an interview coming up for a it support job. My end goal is to get into cybersecurity and I have the passion to learn. I completed a certification from ISC2 and im looking into learning from Google's career certificate.

  • @LongLe-ri5hs
    @LongLe-ri5hs ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much bro. You are my motivation

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching! 💚 Keep learning/grinding like the rest of the cyber army 😅

  • @Silver.....
    @Silver..... ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I want to study AI and Cibersecurity, what do you think about this career?

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว

      Both are very large tech spaces to go into and great career paths, especially given AI is becoming more mainstream in everyone's day to day life. Make sure you pick a specific section of AI and cybersecurity to focus your studies on and not try to learn it all.

  • @richardacquah6473
    @richardacquah6473 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    much love bro

  • @prod.3nergy684
    @prod.3nergy684 ปีที่แล้ว

    You the goat bro

  • @supriyo89103
    @supriyo89103 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bro I wish I can hug you and say thank you. :)

  • @cyberlocc
    @cyberlocc ปีที่แล้ว

    40-60k for a soc analyst with a degree? Bro, I make the upper range of that, as help desk no degree..... and why would you look up "Cyber Security" on Zip Recruiter, lol. Thats not a job....

  • @supriyo89103
    @supriyo89103 ปีที่แล้ว

    why you being Neo?

  • @Jdbdjdbdkdbdjjd
    @Jdbdjdbdkdbdjjd ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't use music

  • @brownsense1
    @brownsense1 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I have a plan for the rest of my life. I'm 43. I'm currently taking a course on UX/UI design. I have a background in graphic design. Ba degree. After UX, I'm taking a course in digital marketing and then I'll Segway into finding a job in digital marketing /UX design work. Then I'm going to take a course on tech sales, to learn sales side of marketing. Then I'm going into Cyber security, specifically PCI DSS in GRC arena. Your boy got a plan.

    • @madhatistaken
      @madhatistaken  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is an arduous journey, but I think I see your reasoning for marketing into tech sales into PCI. Going to help market PCI compliant tech software and help your future company become the leading industry standard for the most compliant software around, thereby solidifying your position as CCO? That sounds lucrative 😅

    • @SumanRoy.official
      @SumanRoy.official ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a long ass plan 😂

    • @elizaleke8373
      @elizaleke8373 ปีที่แล้ว

      @43? I'm only 40 and I'm ready to jump into cybersecurity space 😆. I can't do the long journey. Goodluck to you

  • @ggs137
    @ggs137 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you

  • @enochexe1620
    @enochexe1620 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, my buddy, who joined the military was able to get a six figure job. And he’s only 24.

    • @andypoon8176
      @andypoon8176 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He most likely had a cyber military occupational specialty or worked with networks or servers.

  • @garicrewsen1128
    @garicrewsen1128 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video, just speak less with your hands. Super distracting. Not sure if you were gonna throw something at me or slap me.