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- America’s schools are facing a shortage of 300,000 teachers and staff nationwide, according to the country's largest teachers union. And now school districts are turning to once-unthinkable solutions to alleviate the pressure like reducing school weeks to 4 days and allowing college students to educate kids. MSNBC’s Ayman Mohyeldin spoke with the Executive Director of The School Superintendents Association Dan Domenech about this huge problem.
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Why would any sane person want to be a teacher in this country? Most of us don’t have to risk our lives for less than 50k a year, not to mention the crazy parents.
Heather, I couldn’t agree with you more. My daughter is a teacher with a double Masters and states: “she (I) will never teach in a classroom again.” The pay was rotten, supervisor’s abusive, supplies were always low and the teachers would have to either buy them their selves or organize a “go fund me”. The interviewee actually had the nerve to say that people don’t go into teaching for the money, they do it for the children. This is not 1923 when one of the few jobs a woman could get was teaching. Therefore, she took what she was offered because there was no better option. That is not the case in 2022. Teachers need respect, higher pay, and smaller classrooms with an assist. Teachers are not political pawns, and now hopefully politician’s and over bearing parents will see that.
Beyond these fantastic points it also comes down often to inept administration. I left the last job I was at because the principal and superintendent clearly had little to no classroom experience and were far more concerned with putting on a good face than listening to teachers and unions.
The parents were mostly great, a few tough situations. But the administration was truly negligent and lost nearly the entire educating staff over covid mismanagement and forcing strange and inconsistent rules on masking, vaccinations and testing.
Consistency is something every student and teacher needs.
Right!
Making minimum wage over a 9-month period since teachers don’t get paid over the summer.
"Crazy parents" aka angry parent of children who are being groomed by teachers. Don't even try to pull that garbage.
Can't understand why teachers don't want to jump at the chance to fight off school shooters, while simultaneously being threatened by parents, and accused of being "pedophiles and groomers"
THIS!!!!
Don't forget incompetent responses to pandemics putting their lives at risk...
Baffling. Sounds like a dream job. (This is snark, for the sarcastically impaired.)
These are not false accusations.All liberals are harmful to children.
@@jl8942 The only people who's lives were at risk were fat people and the elderly.
Why would anyone want to teach in this political environment? You wouldn't be able to do your job effectively and truthfully.
Just imagine how many Democrats celebrated pride month
If you stick to the curriculum, you’d be fine. Stop allowing politics & wokism to permeate within our education system
@@WilliamHMusic-oldschool imagine minding your own business, staying in your shack alone, and keeping your nose on your face. No one on this planet cares about you.
Shocker the two states with the worse shortage are two states handcuffing and weaponizing teachers to teach a fascists' agenda... Under paid and told how to teach? Who wants that job??
@@WilliamHMusic-oldschool yes, every one knows about your sexual insecurities
Vets as teachers without training? People who are used to a system of absolute discipline and unquestioning obedience getting thrown into classrooms without any education on child development or pedagogy? Good luck, everyone (vets and kids)!
I once worked with a guy who retired as an army general and came to teach US government. Lasted one year.
Where is this happening?
@@akc1739 Florida
They better start requiring Deescalation training
Most veterans I know shouldn't even be allowed around children. Lots of unresolved mental issues even in the high functioning ones. Both my parents were vets. I wouldn't leave my kids with em
Two teachers in our neighborhood have left their schools permanently not because they did not want to teach, but because they sustained major injuries from furniture thrown by their students. That’s what’s waiting for people who are thinking about teaching these days.
first day in the classroom back in 1977 in the UK i was attacked by an 11th grade student armed with a chair, I took it off him and kicked his butt back to tech studies where he belonged, of course, I'd get sacked for that now..... later on when i got attacked ( which happened about three times ) , i just had to accept it
Parents are raising monsters. No respect. No consequences for bad behavior. Parents fault.
And no one wants to talk about their parents WHO ARE TO BLAME!!! You'll be accused of racism.
i don't believe it. they simply got in to a profession they shouldn't be in
Teaching my 28th year this year... luckily in California our governor doesn't control our school board or anything ridiculous like that. Still our district is offering hefty incentives trying to fill open positions that we've never had before. I'm at the top of my pay scale and heading toward retirement, but I would NEVER chose teaching as a profession if I were a young person. Low pay has always been the norm, but the fear of being shot (because guns are more important than children in our country) and the outrageousness of being forced to teach lies to little people who rely on me for the truth would now steer me well far away from the classroom.
What grade do you teach? Do you think the reason for shortage of teachers is different depending on the grade? I feel like some teachers may have found other jobs to make up for schools being closed because of COVID and now there is no incentive for them to come back to teaching now that schools are back to normal. I feel like COVID made it easy for teachers to leave for the reason you listed and several others like laws being made to allow parents to sue teachers for teaching something they don't agree with.... What are your thoughts?
Amen, L Davidson!
Thank You Sir for being there for your students. I admire you!
@@WYCDfoxxxyDragon I retired from teaching (primary grades) 8 years ago. The teacher exodus isn't a new phenomenon that started with COVID, although it has been a factor for many older teachers deciding to retire for health reasons. Also, special education has been bleeding teachers for many years, with few new hires to take their places. My sister still teaches, as does my DIL. (Primary and middle school.) Collectively, we agree that these are the factors driving teachers out: Relentless pressure to test the daylights out of students, continual changes in learning standards driven by political winds, more work required outside of the school day and no compensation, poor pay and fewer benefits, less prep time, student behavior and lack of support from parents and administrators, teachers resorting to using their own money to buy supplies, school shootings/violence, and the current climate of disrespect and vilifying educators as "groomers" and "woke indoctrinators." (I'm sure I missed something.) It's gotten to the point where teachers are viewed as something evil. Morale has gone off the rails in public schools and children will pay the price, while the grownups continue to twiddle their thumbs and pontificate about banning books and hiring unqualified babysitters to pick up the slack.
Thank you regardless!! That’s a long time to teach and dedicate to the youth of our country and I’m sure many students have been affected in a positive way due to your teaching. Hope retirement treats you well
Underpaid, overworked and treated like trash. I wonder why we have a shortage?
Not to mention how schools refuse to cover the costs for supplies for teachers and their classrooms, which leaves many teachers paying out of their own pockets on an already low salary.
Right.. No time to go to bathroom so damaged my bladder...half hour lunch break had to death children...so worked out to 20 min to eat. Pay terrible.
@MSNBC PAID VIEWER Newsflash... Schools are hiring! If you think teaching is such a cakewalk, by all means apply! Sounds like many schools are taking any warm body to babysit the little darlings. You just might fit the bill.
I know a teacher who came here from the Philippines, and when realized how the children and parents disrespect teachers in this country, she decided not to work in the classroom. She told me it was shocking. Now she's running a storage facility.
it's the teachers bringing it on theirself by being out of control on a power trip
I'm sure you could add to the list of teacher shortage... that they probably do not want to be the next recipients of a deranged shooter.
... or risk being abused for teaching accurate history or literary classics.
@@combatepistemologist8382 Can you imagine.
This veteran teacher took early retirement due to:
1-Tried of getting Covid
2-Low pay and no gratitude
3-Gun violence
They mean MILITARY veterans 🧐
@@bucsr.6106 I think the poster knows that. Teachers with experience have always been called "veteran teachers."
Teaching is one of the most disrespected professions. Poor working conditions, poor income. Abuse from parents and administration. Yes we love kids but the bank doesn’t care about that when the mortgage is due or we have a medical emergency.
I WASTED MY LIFE TEACHING. I hate my existence now. Nobody gave a F about me, but everyone was happy to take, take, take. GTFOH.
Many "teachers" are just groomers trying to indoctrinate children with their communist and sexually perverse ideology. 😒
I loved teaching for the most part. The parents were great for the most part. It was the administration at “the head shed” that made it unbearable with the agendas being shoved down our throats.
@@jennyjenny4501 The problem is the Liberal school agenda!!! FACT!
Miller - Some of the most corrupt and stupid people I've ever met are teachers. I have little respect for the people in this so called "profession".
Separation of State and Church should be amended to Separation of Schools from State and Church.
Without a doubt!!
I agree with you 100%.
I'm a licensed teacher enjoying teaching internationally. Not only am I paid better, but I don't have to deal with any of the conservative meddling in the classroom or being shot. I won't ever come back to America to teach.
KS - Most teachers are overpaid idiots.
You're getting paid better for now and as far as conservative meddling you are you honestly going to say that parents do not have the right to be involved in their children's education? So you're proud that you're teaching other students in another country how to be groomed? Don't worry when their parents come and kick your behind there's no laws to change it remember you're international it's not like the US
Good for you! Teachers are reviled and hated by the parents who desperately need someone to blame for their miserable life.
@@myndgodandpsyche no but parents can't interfere with the material taught as they are not experts .
@@ahmadag1820 either you really need your cup of coffee this morning or your brain is just straight slow
Pay teachers more- US pays some of the lowest wages in the developed world.
👆🏻 Exactly. Pay them and they will come.
Considering teachers are faced with possible shootings, being attacked by parents and restrictions on what can be taught in the classroom, I'm not sure any wage would be enough to entice teachers to come back to teaching. I think COVID forced many to find employment in other fields and now that they have other employment, considering the new changes to the education field, even a higher wage would not be enough for them to deal with everything they would have to, if they come back now...
@@WYCDfoxxxyDragon your right I’m sure, but it would help, especially in states with very low academic achievement levels. I remember a few years back when it got so bad that teachers in Oklahoma and West Virginia went on strike. The salaries they were getting were absurd. Truly gifted and dedicated teachers are often willing to work for less for the love of children and the profession. However their simply aren’t enough people like that.
@@jmpattillo We shouldn't expect teachers to have to work for peanuts, regardless of how much they love their jobs!
@@jeanquadvandamage9211 💯
I taught for 20+ years, have a masters plus 5 more years of coursework, but finally had enough of being abused by administration, parents, and students. One teacher down the hall from me had CHAIRS thrown at her, but administration never defended her, never did anything to the students that threw the chairs. She had a nervous breakdown. Students were allowed to video these attacks on their cell phones and administrators backed them up instead of the teachers. When I asked for help, administration said kids had the right to have their phones!! Fights in my class had no consequences. When the principal said she was going to put more students in my classes that were already 35-40 students, I gave up. All of this makes teaching impossible.
Yep , same here in Australia, I'm retired now, but there are some incredibly bad administrators out there and they are driving people away in droves.
That is insane!!
How to attract teachers/nurses/pilots?
1) more respect 2) reasonable pay 3) pay off student loans
First of all,teaching is a calling.If you're in it for the money,you're in the wrong field.
Beverly Weber Absolutely agree.
Sorry best I can do is a candy gift package for teacher appreciation day.
You must want your bad decision loan paid off!
@@glenburrows5633 What a load of crap. Tell that to those in the medical field. Their helping profession, their “calling” earns a more respectable wage.
Teacher here - retired 20 years ago after 38 years in middle school - this problem has been building up for many many years - yes, low pay and health benefits are contributing factors but I think the real issue is politicians (and their lawyers) and parents (and their lawyers) believing they know how and what to teach - I have two bachelor degrees, a masters degree and a special education endorsement certificate - it's not an easy profession and now in addition to all the problems teaching is fast becoming a war zone - I'm incredibly sad for what the profession used to be!!
38 years is 18 years over require retirement at 20 years. you just got to a point you didn't care any more because you were way to old to be in classroom around kids
What??? Clueless???
After 26 years, I left the job I loved because I finally had to put myself first. No job, even teaching, is worth the high stress, lack of respect, and minimal pay for working 40+ hrs a week. I finally got tired of being accused of not wanting to work or in it just for the "summer vacations".
I am now working a regular 8 to 5 with the same vacation time as everyone else. Oh, yes, and receiving a significant pay raise and outstanding benefits. I no longer have headaches or panic attacks, and I no longer worry about being ambushed by an angry parent or having to perform extra duties based on outdated expectations. Did I mention I'm working remotely as well??
Who can blame me? I'm not a martyr and should not be expected to live as one based on my profession.
No way id be a teacher in the US with all the threats from Conservative crazies. These people are straight bonkers
That's not the main problem. Trust me.
As a current School Administrator/Principal and previous K-12th grade Teacher the real issue for teachers is the (PAY). The bottom is line is PAY. Teachers should be Paid at least $75,000 as a starting salary with a Tenured Salary going up to $120,000 a Year.
That will end the Shortage! Another thing is that Teaching is not a Attractive Profession which is why less and less people are not enrolling in Teacher Programs.
Pay was not my biggest issue. It was students that are addicted to phones, resenting teachers for taking them away from the phones and the social time they value far more than learning…and the parents who support the students over the teachers. Administrators are hands off and impudent.
Truth. If I'm paying the same college tuition as anyone else with a viable, professional degree, why in the world world I chose the profession with the lower starting pay??
Doing something about being murdered in class for no reason might help, too.
As a teacher, the real issue is not the pay.
Over twenty years ago, I stopped recommending teaching as a career for my junior and senior high school students. The last ten years or so, I actively discouraged any student from going into teaching. My Superintendent (one of my former students) told us in a meeting that he had done this as well. Our PA legislators know little to nothing about either education or women's bodies.
Many public schools systems have long been troubled with keep highly qualified teachers employed. Today's hyper-political environment lots of professionals are retiring early and leaving the headaches behind.
In my poor and deeply red state, we're so short on teachers they are letting retired teachers return with full pay and they are not penalizing their retirement. In other words, they are being payed double to come back to work.
In my deeply blue state I work with a young man who quit after teaching two years of history because of the forced curriculum from the Left. It’s about to get even worse as the state licensing board is going to force teachers to successfully train in and teach Leftist narratives like BLM and LGBTQ.
I wouldn't teach anymore for less than $600,000 a year.
@@Novastar.SaberCombat My wife, a 30 year special ed teacher, didn't think double pay was worth it to return to work.
@@johnswof you are both super old
@@dakota19021 Clever observation. I bet they call you Sunny cause you're so bright.
Domench forgot to mention one major factor that drives teachers from the classroom: incompetent, vindictive administrators.
I work as an In-house Substitute in a local school district pre-school. I work every day in the same building, covering for more than one teacher, classroom aide, lunch aide, or secretary, as sometimes, more often than not, I'm moved around to more than one position in a day. There are two of us in the building and we are always busy. I hear what the regular teachers say. I would not want their jobs for anything. That's why I sub. I go to work, substitute for whoever, and then go home. I enjoy my job. If I had to deal with what they have to deal with, even in preschool, I would get another job.
I'm a Senior on Social Security. I have a Bachelor's Degree in Music Education K-12 and am certified to teach Elementary Education K-12. If I was asked, and chose to, which I don't want to, do a long-term Substitute for the Elementary grades, I could do it. But as I said, I don't do long-term Substitutes. I can't do long-term in the Preschool because I'm not certified for Preschool. I get paid more than a regular Substitute because of my position and the paperwork that allows me do it, but I'm not paid as much as a teacher, which I shouldn't be, because they do so much more than I do. But, depending on how long a classroom aide has been there, I make more money than a good many of them. I have retirement and sick days, just like everyone else, but have my own medical because people over 65 who are on Social Security have to have Medicare. If I wasn't on Medicare, I would take the medical that is offered by the School District because it is very good, better than Medicare really. The things that I don't have to deal with are Education related. I don't have to do lesson plans or prepare for them. I don't have to deal with the Administration and the Principal other than as it relates to my own position as a Substitute. However, I have a separate Supervisor for being a Substitute and things go through her first. Anything classroom related is the Teacher's responsibility. I don't have to do evaluations and meet with parents. I have to deal with some discipline but the classroom aide is there and usually steps in if needed. But preschoolers really aren't that hard to deal with so it very rarely happens. The classroom aide also communicates with the Teacher about anything that needs communicating. But sometimes I do go home and worry about someone who doesn't seem like they get worried about enough at home. But still that isn't my responsibility. It's the Teacher's responsibility.
Subs don’t have to lesson plan or grade homework. Most halfway decent teachers have no other support in the classroom and have to take their work home with them at night.
Thank you. I teared up when he reiterated that teachers are professionals. We are! We've worked our butt's off to become the teachers out students deserve.
"They don't do it for the money" I don't know a single teacher that would work for completely free so STOP SAYING THIS, it only hurts teacher's chances of recieving a pay raise...
I’d go back to teaching if they paid more but when I can do almost any job and make more than when I was teaching it’s not worth it.. teachers don’t get paid a living wage! pay teachers more and they would come back to teaching!
Pay teacher's more money !
Teachers only work part time
Or make the school safer. Stop teachers pay to buy items for their classroom
@@tstocker6926 They work full time and then go home grade papers plan the next day or week.
@@ellenfaulkner7616 , they get summer vacation like the kids , + all of the holidays
Have a friend who worked her way through college a little at a time over several years to become a high school teacher. She quit after a year to do other things due to lack of ability to maintain discipline in the class (administrators were terrified of parents who enabled their kids to be hellions), lack of any support or mentoring by experienced teachers and administrators, being nitpicked to death about little inconsequential things, being told the opposite of what she was taught to do in college, and a million government requirements to prove what she was teaching minute to minute. It left little time for actual teaching what the students needed to know. That was before school shooters were a regular occurrence or banning books important to history was a thing.
I have a couple of degrees ( none in education ) and considered teaching as a " semi - retirement " gig to try to give back to my community. All of my friends who are teachers and administrators have told me not to do it. They have said they are not teachers anymore. They " teach to pass the tests " for funding and then essentially teach watered - down curriculum due to our state government deciding to curtail anything deemed controversial. The senior American History course in our #1 state - rated school district spends less than two days on WW2. Two days!!! Civil rights movement - 1 day and they are not allowed to say certain things about it.
Maybe quit suggesting that in addition to raising your children, they now need to do the polices job and carry guns to take out shooters.🙄 Pay teachers a good salary. 🤷🏻♀️
I can't imagine why? All those Republicans attacking teachers maybe has something to do with it?
You people are truly sick.
Exactly!
You need to have federal school legislation, so that local crazy people in counties and the crazy states cannot destroy the school system anymore.
For example a national syllabus/curriculum.
That would also enforce good (and non-confessional) education in all your religious schools...
Also legislate that charging tuition for education is illegal. No more private, charter, schools. Public education for all. Also national funding, so that a school in rural Appalachia is as well-funded and maintained as one in Westchester county NY state.
Have you seen your government lately? What are you talking about?
yeah, federalize education... that's smart thinking🤪🤪
Turns out the risks of being mowed down by an AR or harangued by screaming anti-masker, book burning parents aren’t appealing career options for the highly educated.
Teachers are not highly educated they're only given a curriculum to follow. Teachers do not use their personal knowledge to exchange with the student they use a format given by the school administration to regurgitate
Don't forget being vastly underpaid.😔
Plus they can't groom kids anymore
@Rog🐆 It's crazy how teachers and kids are afraid of mass shooters and your afraid of words.
Amen!
I've had good teacher and bad teachers. More of the second than the first.
Everyone has to teach someone.Even if they don't do it as a profession.Teaching is an instinct as well as a skill A society that does not value teachers is doomed to fail.
I am so sorry that you have had more bad teachers than good ones.
So sorry that you had this happen to you. 😔
I had some fabulous teachers that I remember to this day.
I've worked with several people that had quit teaching. They said they couldn't teach with all the regulations. Their hands were tied with trying to control unruly kids.
We can't get teachers here in Australia either. We have PE teachers teaching Maths, _Math_ for you guys. Classes missing teachers.
Math=the study of MATHEMATICS.
@@bs4real thanks Einstein
Teachers aren't valued...I left education in March. Couldn't be happier....kids are awful and their parents are WORSE!
What can be done to transform parents
I've always thought teachers were underpaid since the 70's. These are the people who are helping to shape the next generation. They are irreplaceable. Hire more teachers now!
@Mac Gyver Well below what others with similar levels of education are paid. I don’t think most teachers enter the field with money as a motivator and I certainly don’t want people teaching because of the salary if salaries are increased. Teaching is a calling and we only want the best. More money is of course necessary, but respect is also needed. I am most successful with students whose families respect me and the position I hold. It is tough going with the kids whose parents want to complain about everything. We have already always been okay by the end of the year, but in between it has been rough. If you have an issue with your child’s teacher, please address it with them privately, not in front of your child. Kids who think they can get out of work, etc. by making up stories or embellishing the truth about their teacher, aren’t held accountable and that does not serve them and makes our job even tougher.
@Mac Gyver I was also replying to the original commenter…it is not about my feelings, it is about the effect on students. I did not go into teaching for respect, but it may deter others who would be good teachers.
@Mac Gyver McGyver's mom here: You better watch your tongue, young man, speaking in such a disrespectful way to a teacher, calling her a cupcake! Now, apologise!
@Mac Gyver I see you parents failed to teach you any manners. No role model.
@Mac Gyver You can look up the employee salary schedule for just about any school district and average salaries in any state, Cupcake. Teachers are toughening up by walking out the door.
That's the solution: shortsighted and
demeaning; namely, hiring unqualified and uncertified people to peddle extremist propaganda, and pass them off as "teachers."
Florida in a nutshell
Thats the liberal way!
@@brianjennings8538 conservative states are the one doing this Brian
@@danceteacherrlb gotta love conservatives whataboutism
"I love the poorly Educated." Donald tRump Quote
There’s going to be plenty of uneducated kids running around. IQ45s new base.
It was very disappointing as a teacher to go from a hero at the start of the pandemic, to the villain. I guess state legislatures telling trained professionals how to do their job is now a trend. We are in good company with OB/GYNs, etc. Their job is to represent their constituents which my congress member can’t seem to do since she is too busy following orders from the extreme wing of the Republican Party. I bet her kids went to private school where they taught what she wanted, not the truth.
There are many of us who appreciate all you do as a teacher. The way we collectively treat our educators should be a source of embarrassment for every citizen.
Teachers aren't heroes! They are to teach standard theory to children and thats basically it! CRT and wokism is what killed the view of teachers in America!
@@jeanquadvandamage9211 Thanks! I teach for the kids, not their parents, not for praise or money, but it still bothers me when legislators are so disrespectful and think anyone can teach. It is an art that you have to continually improve with training, experience and coaching, as well as, constant adjustments based on what each student needs.
I taught in an elementary school for decades. When my own children were young, I carried my work home with me each night and spent hours on the weekends doing lesson plans. When they graduated high school, I had the luxury of staying late in my classroom. At least three days a week, I would be there until 7:00 pm. There was always so much to do, especially when I changed grade levels and couldn’t use teaching units I had created for a previous grade level. I spent hundreds of dollars each year on classroom materials including literature books. My pay was less than half my husband’s and he didn’t have a college degree that I had to earn-and pay for-in order to teach.
Your pay was "less than half" of your husband's and he didn't have to have a College degree for his job? Whoa, that is so sad :(
Teachers do want the money. The fact is that many teachers realize several years in that they MUST have a second job to survive and/or decide to take their skills elsewhere. Increasing pay, making sure that communities fully fund the schools so teachers are not paying out of pocket for supplies. Communities need to stop demanding so much extra time. I know of very teachers who only work their contract hours. Most teachers put hours and hours of extra time into their classes. School Leaders rely on all that extra time. You can google or youtube reasons why teachers have left, if you really care.
Sum teachers have to work under impossible conditions like no air-conditioning under sweltering heat on a second or third floor and trying to keep the kids cool and attentive. They shouldn't have to do this and teach and carry a gun.
The GOP started all of this with their woke BS ... I have no kids at school age so I think this is hilarious ... they get what they wanted ... deal with it...
GOP woke? Keep lying to yourself cupcake!
So true! Sad part is, that we all are going to have to deal with the Karen’s and Ken’s that the schools spit out.
As someone who went to school in the late 70’s & early 80’s, I find this terribly sad. We respected our teachers and our parents supported them. We received a first rate education, and that is not happening here.
Parents can be volunteer teachers, since they are telling teachers how to do their job.
This is something I've asked my parents to do for years. And in over 10 years not ONE parent has volunteered.
Not sure how long people expected teachers to put up with this low pay abusive system. I do not blame teachers at all.
At this point in time it doesn't matter if you're a certified teacher with over 20 years experience or someone off the street because there's no teaching happening in public schools, just babysitting out of control behaviors.
From preschool up, teachers are forced to deal with inappropriate and unrealistic teaching practices that are opposite of evidence based practices.
Educators are forced to deal with parents who have unrealistic expectations and forget their own role as parents in teaching life skills, ir they are in denial their child has developmental or behavioral problems. Preschool teachers are blamed for kids not being potty trained (that's not our job to teach) or for being rude and disobedient. And that continues on to higher levels because parents don't teach manners, respect and realistic consequences to actions. You can't talk back or hit without repercussions as an adult. Kids need to learn that young.
Kids with deficient parenting (quality counts more than quantity, as a single working parent, I know this for a fact), or other developmental and behavioral problems act out, even physically. They are a danger to themselves, their classmates, their teachers. And teachers get paid crap, with no trust, 120 hours of work a week, for which they get paid for a 1/3 of, then get hurt and abused only to be told its their classroom management skills. If this was your work environment, why would you stay?
Let teachers teach with fewer restrictions. Hold parents and kids accountable. If a child is need of services and the parent is in denial, hold them accountable. If the child isn't doing their work or being a bully, they deserve punishment and corrections, and the parent needs to get on board. After what I see in kids now compared to a few ago when I was parenting a young child and volunteered at her schools, I am terrified we will have a huge crop of lazy, rude, and physical young adults in a few years entering the work force.
back in the late 90s , we remarked, 'when some of these kids become parents, we're in for BIG trouble, " and now, they ARE parents and their kids are as unbearable as they were but multiplied by a factor of 10 , you cannot reason with them and they are utterly unreasonable in almost every aspect.
Great post! I remember some ot the controversy of whether CRT is being taught. But even it supposedly 'made children feel bad', regarding history, couldn't the parents use that as a teaching moment, to understand that history cannot be changed? So, I saw that how whole issue was really about emotional manipulation, for political gain. And it is the same with that "grooming" issue.
Kids today want the money. They just don’t want the work.
When a country is this Determined to Crash and Burn. All you can do is Live your Best Life!! These Dummies are on a Roll! 💯👍
As a public school teacher who worked in multiple states:
--Unruly students not being properly disciplined
--Too many unrealistic expectations
--Low pay
--Not treated like a highly educated professional
--False allegations against teachers by students
ALL of these are the REAL reasons I have noticed, over the years, why teachers across the US are leaving.
Believe me, I have talked with countless teachers from various schools and the above mentioned issues are definitely top 5 reasons teachers are really leaving today
I left teaching 7 years ago. I still have PTSD from being a teacher. A drug dealer pulled a gun on me in the parking lot because I asked him not to do his "business" in an elementary school parking lot. My principal did nothing!!
This is what happens when you politicize teaching. No one wants the job.
Like not allowing the discussion of slavery ascruel and exploitational, or not allowing the mention of LGBTs? 🤔
@@TooBadThatDidntKillMe I didn’t really go there as a kindergarten teacher. I was too busy teaching kids how to read and write.
@@jennyjenny4501 I wasn't talking about kindergarten, but you do you. 😏
@@TooBadThatDidntKillMe everything you need to know about life you learn in kindergarten!
@@jennyjenny4501 So you indoctrinate kindergarteners to pray to Trump? More projection. Nice. 😏
Teachers in my part of the world train for as long as lawyers.
I'm a veteran teacher with forty-three years in various classrooms from the Midwest to Hawaii. I was assaulted by a student, hit across my arm, because I reported to Child Services (I am a mandated reporter) that the student had a large bruise on her arm and told me she had stepped between her dad and his husband when they were in a physical altercation. She came in the next day and hit me for that. My assistant principal came in and said, "Yes, she hit you, but how hard?" This AP has never taught a day in her life. Next year, two girls that I had separated for constant talking during lessons and who were failing the class, having done zero for the year, waited until class was over when they thought there were no witnesses, came in, screamed in my face that THEY did not feel safe. They refused to leave. Next day I sent them to office for this on a two-day out-of-class suspension. The parent of one of the girls, who is a woman at the district in Chicano Studies, also threatened me. Another assistant principal brought them right back to class. I have the contractual right to suspend a kid for three days, supposedly. I'd had heart surgery the year before and things didn't go as well as predicted and I continued to experience a-fib. So, I gave my AP the keys to my classroom, the book I was teaching and left three months into the school year. My doctor wrote me out for the rest of the year. The girls spread the rumor that they had gotten me fired. It is not unusual for past students to write to me, thanking me for "changing my life, making me a critical thinker." This has sustained me. Teaching was my life and I miss it, but I do not miss the abuse.
As a person who just got their teaching credential in California two months ago and is waiting to find the right placement, my problems with starting my career are as follows
#1 classroom size (30-1 student teacher ratio is a joke)
#2 pay and benefits
#3 cellphone policies (try teaching a bunch of screen addicts anything on a block schedule)
Culture wars are the least of my problems
Campus and district administration, and parents might want to start treating teachers like the professionals they are and with a good measure of respect.
After the way we've been treated I can't imagine why
A retired teacher, from Canada, here. All my long career, we were subjected to following all the impressive curriculum innovations coming out of the US. Some American teaching groups, most certainly changed my teaching skills, immeasurably. It is so sad too see what has happened to the US as you have been influenced to making US " Great Again". Sigh!!!
I sure hope there is intervention on the proposal to have military teach. We can't have our public schools turned into military schools. If you are not trained as a teacher, then you are not a teacher. Wait, why don't the governor teach? Or maybe the stupid parents who put so much pressure and politics on teachers??? Maybe then will they learn to appreciate what teachers do, and maybe then, they will understand the value of a real education with a universality of ideas, not just their water down version of life.
The question is, why hasn't this happened a long time ago? Teachers are treated with such disrespect by by the students, parents and the administrators. The curriculum is the worst it has ever been. I have seen the way kids behave over the years and it is disturbing. My hope is that the teacher shortage will be so extreme, that it will wake up people and make them realize that the American education system will have to be reformed.
try paying them more
Decades ago I had a really sharp cookie teaching me a Psychology 101 course. He claimed the state should only hire the brightest students to be teachers and pay them a lot more to attract them to the profession.
In the ensuing fifty years, the education department in my small regional state college that was started to produce teachers has progressively attracted fewer and fewer people to become teachers while the state now hires uncertified teachers they pay a lot less.
I wonder.... Has anyone done a study to correlate the severity of a state's teacher shortage with other factors? Ex. % of communities trying to ban books, governmental micromanagement of education, vaccination rates, red vs blue, teacher pay, certificatien requirements, etc. Doing so might provide some ideas as to how to address local need.
Sounds like you could run for the school board, in your community.
The whole "book banning" thing is new. Let's not shoehorn that as the cause of the shortage.
If only many counties pay well like teachers in my county. We have art teachers and music teachers making 6 figures or close to 6 figures. It’s not hard to pay teachers well.
They are just shoving too many students into existing teacher's rooms. I have the highest amount of students, I have ever had in my classroom this year. The behaviors are so bad, I am anticipating I will get absolutely no teaching done this year. I have already had a meeting with my principal this morning, about getting an aide in my room, because I have 11 special education students in my room. 8 of them with behavior issues. Students throwing chairs, climbing desks, sitting on desk tops, and talking while I am trying to teach. I have had to stop the whole class and ask them to put their heads down to gain control over my classroom, too many times to count. I expect my third graders are going to remain at Kinder and First grade reading and math levels, if this keeps up. What a waste of my energy and time. I really don't think I am going to last the year.
It's definitely the 'culture war' issue, but also the fact that in many districts teachers are grossly underpaid--often the same districts where you see the book banning and censorship of lessons on slavery and racism.
Are you a teacher? Its not the "culture war" Its out of control kids and administration that will back them instead of the teacher.
We need to start paying our school staff more and treating them better.
Also we need to stop pushing religious beliefs on teachers and kids. Religious programs and teachings belong in church and your own homes. I am all for learning about types of religions and the outlines. But not so as far as to indoctrinating our kids with religious beliefs.
Many conservatives in my area are pushing for book bans but get really angry when the Bible is mentioned as part of that ban.
Let the kids learn real American history. Our history is horrifying but we can’t ignore it or whitewash it.
Nobody is pushing religion in public school. You really need to turn off MSNBC and try living in reality. You look a little bit crazy.
Agreed. An educator should be the highest paid. The stuff they have to put up with.
We shouldn't be indoctrinating children into a cult of invisible sky gods with magical powers.
@@billpool1217 sorry your lost. Jesus Christ loves you
@@dontyouwishyouknewmyname3598 Not today Jesus!! Jesus should know better than to barge into people's lives uninvited.
As a retired teaxcher, I feel it's not really the parents that are the problem, it's our educational administration/system. They have no respect for teachers. I retired(resigned), from teaching in Chicago, where from 2005 onward, they fired between 900 to 1,400 seasoned teachers per year due to "budgetary concerns". They also let go of as many auxilary staff as possible, which made our jobs even more difficult.
My wife has a bachelors degree and a masters degree in education (special education and school counseling). As a result she incurred about $200k in debt for a job that pays about $53k a year. There is no ROI for going into education. Until that is addressed there will be issues.
Is this a surprise? Teachers have been treated like trash as long as I can remember, and many don't get paid half what they're worth. Largest group of teachers I saw after finishing K-12 was in the Walmart cashier line, trying to make ends meet after finishing the school day. Teachers get zero respect in society, zero respect in the classroom, and less than zero respect from parents/politicians. Recently, we don't even respect their safety (covid/guns) or intelligence (banning books/subjects). The job is basically all downsides.
_"We love the poorly educated!"_ - *Donald Trump*
That's just a way for Trump to state he loves himself.
Dems love the brainwashed- Squiddy
So what's wrong with him loving democrats?
@@davidrhinehart7764 Nice Red Hat projection! 😏
What’s the point of having teachers in Florida and Texas? The kids might as well stay home…the results would be the same, and the GOP will grow a new crop of constituents.
Here in Florida we don’t teach CRT & transgender perversion like blue states
🤣 as a parent who moved my child from Illinois to Texas this year, you almost made me spit my coffee out. Texas schools are just as good as Illinois schools with a lot less of the woke agenda...which I love. No mask and no covid Nazis
Shifting to a 4 day school week attracts more highly qualified applicants than anything else tried in Colorado and/or Oregon.
butts in seats 8:00-3:00 M-F is antiquated and needs to be left in the past.
“When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny.”- Thomas Jefferson
“Hatred is the vice of narrow souls; they feed it with all their littleness, and make it the pretext of base tyrannies.”- Honore de Balzac
"Ignorance of the people is a tool of the tyrant."-Anonymous
No one has a teacher's back. Administrators, such as school superintendents and principals are more worried about placating parents and being a "buddy" to the students is more important to them. Almost every time I called out a student for their behavior, I was the one called to the principals office. Any efforts I made to sound the alarm on what was happening, was blatantly ignored by school officials. And now the kids and society are paying the price.
Well, if schools would pay teachers *what they are worth* you wouldn't *have* this problem! Also, along with decent pay worthwhile healthcare!
I think teachers have discovered that they can teach things other than science, history and math. I see lots of teachers leaving to be creators on TH-cam. They can do it at home and it allows for them to be creative.
Teachers no longer have any control in their classes. Crazy parents, no punishments. Kids aren’t scared of anything and will act as though they are given free reign. And they have. This Book issue is very frightening. Anne Frank? This is Madness
Yet another segment to discuss this issue, but not asking actual teachers why they are leaving. I do not get why they think superintendents and administrators can explain why teachers are leaving. If you want to know and shed a national light on the issue - ask teachers! It's really very simple. However, like the education system itself, the last person anyone thinks can shed light on issues with education is a teacher. That is a part of the issue.
Amen! That seems too much to ask for realizable insight, but that’s how most school districts operate.
Facts
I guess there was a reason why old-fashioned school desks were bolted to the floor. Who knew?
No, it's not parents picking what books can and can't be used. It's the school board and the state legislators. And no mention of school administrators leaving teachers high and dry when a parent comes in and complains. It's not their obstinate little cherub that is the problem, it's the teacher who just doesn't understand the little angel. And the admin throws the teacher under the bus, time and time again. Get real.
Hard to want to teach when you could get shot, attacked by parents, being forced to teach lies to children, can’t put a photo of your partner on your desk if you’re lgbt, etc.
For the last one, maybe they should make it so no teacher can put any photo of their significant other even if they are heterosexual, so at least they would be even. Since some things are better kept out of the classrooms like this it would be a lot more equal. And if the kid asks, one could simply answer them that they do not talk about their private life in class. For the rest, good luck with that. I'm from Italy and we have similar problems as the ones you have, only minus the gun and the fact that no teacher actually speaks about their life outside the classroom, so in that there is some equality. The parents interfering is bad, as is the fact that teachers are virtually impossibilitated to hold back students that are not ready to go to their next school year. I think that the root of the problem is exactly that. If teachers were allowed to hold back students when needed, a lot of the other problems would be mitigated.
It's mostly about the pay. Teachers put up with a lot and deserve to make a decent wage. Teachers can literally work at McDonald's and be lazy for almost the same amount of pay in some areas.
Imagine what will happen when one of these disrespectful kids or parents comes at a Vet aggressively... Someone is going to get knocked out! Wait and see - Vets have gut reactions to protect themselves.
Thank you! We are professionals 🧡
Arrest bonespurs
Please, when you come back from LalaLand, give us a call. At best, he won't be our next President, that's the most we can hope for at this time.
The teachers are speaking loud and CLEAR....
PAY TEACHERS MORE! Wayyyyyy more! Teachers are required to literally commit their lives to the profession. They come in early and leave late. They work at home during the week ad the weekend.
Here's an idea...."let these brilliant" parents teach the kids!!!!!
Let them home school until our education system is reformed!!
I left for so many reasons, but one very close to the top of my list is refusing to do one more active shooter drill.
Aww the comments at the end made me smile. He called us Saints.
I spent ALL DAY typing my SYLLABUS and now I can't find it on my machine!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you have to have “active shooter drills” which cause lifelong PTSD, and wonder if you’ll be shot dead, why teach? Instead of having super strict gun laws, to protect students and teachers, 25 Republican Governors are loosening gun laws. Teachers shouldn’t be “armed”.
Pay us what we are worth! Many of us have advanced degrees- years or so experience- and pay that is less than I could make at a minimum wage job. Teaching is a year round full day position and it is the hardest job I have ever had. 13 year veteran of teaching here. And I can’t see going back to it the way it is now.
There's an elephant in the room that no one one wants to talk about during these conversations, and that's the deterioration of student behaviors. Who wants to be in fear of students attacking them, punching, kicking, choking etc. and admin just shrugging their shoulders and saying "it's part of the job" for crap pay?
America is CAREENING in the wrong direction. Mind-blowing.....
Noone wants to go get a higher education, just to go put up with the horrific treatment by kids and their entitled parents alike. My friend was a great teacher, sweetest person, 1st year as a teacher a students Mom falsely accused her of slapping a kid that never occurred, it took a year to clear her of all wrong doing by police, cps etc and the kids were awful to her, word spread among parents and they all treated her like crap, she quit, went to do a whole different career. My son says the kids make his sweetest teacher cry a lot too in his class and it makes him sick to his stomach and he tries his best to intervene but they still do it to her all the time. So, why would ANYONE put up w all this crap for such terrible pay? They have no incentive. The teachers who remain are super human. I'm a nurse and always felt teachers should make at least as much as RNs.
Increase wages/salaries, reduce work load, increase concrete support, and provide school supplies.
Or just support charter schools and private schools further.
The privatization of public education is already underway.
In order to increase the retention rate among teachers / substitute teachers they need to incentivize these educators that way they can get more people interested in the profession!