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This video explains the diagram I made, what it's for, how it works, and how to read it, as well as each level, how it works, and how to see it in yourself in the world. It's my personal interpretation of a model of consciousness that I studied, but it's re-written to make it more understandable to a big audience.
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I use this diagram to show how people think and where some of the crazy thoughts in our society come from. It's having a big effect! Lots of people are figuring things out, and that's satisfying to me, especially when someone who's been spending a lot of time at level 6 realizes "oh NO! I've been letting people at level 3 get away with a LOT!"
I hope you enjoy the explanation and the little bits of gentle humor peppered throughout. More relationship content coming soon!
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@hoe_math Your "scribbles" are perfect. You should make a poster of the "level-up" sheet. I would buy it immediately!
Love the graphics. Handwriting also very interesting, almost like a font of regular guy script.
Maybe you know them already but in manufacturing we use the 5 Why's to get at root cause. It's a lot like you description of thinking things through at the end of the video.
I don't think that people 10,000 years ago were less intelligent than people today. I hope that you were using tribes/Romans/Medieval describing the lower levels as analogy only; Aristotle et al.
I think this explaisn why i cant be in the moment as often as others + why my brain overheats more often than it should. Thank you for the visual break down.
I'm almost 30. I've been at a new job for about a month now. Yesterday, for casual Friday, I wore a normal tshirt. My boss called me over and politely talked to me, saying I need to wear collared shirts. Keep the casual professional. He was very nice about it. And I felt anxiety for 30 mins because I had done something wrong. I grew up with unforgiving parents and deal with this kind of stuff internally, but I'm getting better at it recently. Anyways. I wanted to just go home and change so I didn't feel bad anymore. I thought about how my boss might have been stressed because maybe HIS boss mentioned it to me and he felt like HE did something wrong. And I caused all of that stress. I didn't like that. But. I realized I was being ridiculous. I told myself it's just a shirt and I'll fix it next time. And I was able to do that because I have become able to see how I emotionally respond to things and why I respond that way. I've been changing a lot of things recently since moving past some unhealthy attachments and I've been able to do so because I can see how and why I react the way I do. I think about why I do it and if what I'm so worried about is actually something to worry about. Most of the time it isn't. I feel like this self awareness puts me most of the time at a 8.
Grats on getting the sponsorship!
Thanks for the vid, i finally reached lv 2. I used to eat bananas, but now i know that others eat bananas too, i'm gonna punch them.
I'm reminded of the birds in Finding Nemo: "mine!"
@@eliel1341 u lv3 if u punch them
Oh no, that's when you eat those who are eating your bananas.
think bout the reprecussion it will hae punchin em tho. u may not get other bananas
My banana! You go in volcano!
This has made me realize that I no longer feel like I’m living my life, but I’m just thinking about living my life.
Real
You need to unthink yourself lol
trying so hard to correct this same issue in myself lol i'm just thinking about everything and myself doesnt exist
Try meditation.
I love you
The problem with maintaining level 9 is that your boss tells you to stop staring off into space, we have to get this concrete poured tonight.
So relatable
That's both way to true if you actively think about these concepts and not really the case once you internalize the core consequences that apply to you personally.
I like mental shortcuts but they're flawed so idk i'm too tired to explain actually
Meanwhile, the girl you like getting poured by Chad
You’re not really number 9. You’re just pretending to be. Number 9 is equivalent to zen state/buddah. Somewhen in the state is chopping wood and getting water. The exact same way as level 1. They’re just aware they’re doing it
thinking about thinking is a little like being your own therapist in your head. just, "and why does that make you feel that way?" "well," and then you continue on that.
@@themadsuns that’s what I was thinking too.
I try to explain this to people that suggest therapy to me, I don't need guidance to open that part of my brain, which is their main purpose. Contrary, often times the reason I'm feeling less than enthused is because of the deep level at which I can understand things, and see how fucked the world really is lol.
@@codyabbott4791 Brother, I understand you. My whole life I’ve felt a cloud over my head, a gloomy depressed feeling because of the high level of existential intelligence i’ve gained at an early age and the heavy anxiety it caused to me as a child knowing how screwed we are going to be in the next 20-40 years, at this point in time as a species, all because the current population’s norm is to refuse to think at a higher level, the culture is book=geek, zero awareness of how many prominent historical figures were warriors and revolutionaries that were intelligent humans. But thats a huge rabbit hole i probably shouldn’t ramble on about to you.
@@StealthyMaizero i have an entirely different perspective. im observing a strange uptick in consciousness in normal people. the sheep continue to be lost, but the conscious-class is growing. leaders are being developed and im optimistic about the future of this world, specifically for oppurtunity for those who wouldnt ever see opportunity if they were born 50 years ago.
@@codyabbott4791 Do you think that therapist don’t see the world at a deep level and therefore wouldn’t be able to provide any guidance for your situation? What level would people that make these sort of assumptions be at?
The real final level is sitting here doing the drawings and then organising all of the thoughts and articulating it to be understood by the audience you have. Bravo :)
Level 10 thinking.
level 11, why bother thinking when there are ☝ smart people ☝ to figure it all out
level oo, its all a cycle, you'll be here again drawing these and there's nothing you can do, even if you're the best or you did as much as you could.
The completed final level looks like this th-cam.com/video/xyYhZTy_Abo/w-d-xo.html
And the way there, explained in the same yet slightly different way th-cam.com/video/6i8bnb4dvvg/w-d-xo.html
lvl 12, understanding nothing matters and just being selfish
This channel is destined to blow up.
He 10xd his following in a month already lmao it’s happening in real time.
Incredible to see.
That's a 9.
He has a tikto
Seriously, this is going to do even better than his TikTok.
My therapist told me that although it is a good skill to be able to watch yourself and others and analyse yourself and your past in relation to your present that I should stop. She told me sometimes you just need to exist and move about the world without constantly processing and analysing and trying to put pieces together and figure out why things are happening. Constantly solving puzzles about your own actions and others actions is so draining and learning how to turn that skill off is something so vital (for me at least) so I don't burn out and die due to simply just exsisting.
It’s a choice, you should read/listen to “when nietzsche wept”
You just have to balance it out. There's no trick anybody can give you. Acting and then analyzing why you acted XYZ way and then analyzing the framework you use to analyze your actions is all you need. I mean you can recurse from there if you want to into details but that's not something you need assessing.
I personally spent a lotta time overthinking so after some time I said "fuck it" and basically dropped into 3. Then I hit a wall with my ability to get things done and after some time realized "oh, that's when I need to bring my old tools back" and hopped over it properly.
It's kinda like prestiging in games 😂
It's said that therapy is much better and do more good to women than men as majority of therapists are women so yes we do get wonderful recoveries and results when a woman consults a woman therapist than a when a man consults a woman therapist as we have different psyches work differently and think differently but still all the therapists out here thinking a funnel of process would work on both genders which is purely speculative, if not hypothetical
Perhaps one who doesn't put himself through strain achives no growth as growth in itself lies outside your comfort zone.
Go ahead and ask your therapist apart from bringing an illusion of peace what else could be achieved from stopping analytical thinking, I'll wait
Well this whole theory is couuned by a guy called Ken Wilbur, read about him. It's not pretty. I wouldn't trust anything he says. He is very into eastern spiritism, which is extremely funny, because eastern spiritism's WHOLE THING is about living in the present, not over-analyzing, radical awareness and radical acceptance, so COMPLETELY different than categorizing people's ideas in boxes and raking them from best to worst.
@@wilderpeople845 I haven't watched this video yet because I want to be in the right state if mind to watch it. I lay in bed thinking a lot and if my thinking is on the same page as what hoemath is talking about then these are my thoughts.
Healthy thinking in a healthy mindset mentality way of life and the old advice of balance applies to everything in life. Depends on your life but if everyone, people have the time, I think one continous hour once a week and one continous 2 to 3+ hour thought session once a month lets your mind get into extremely deep thoughts. I never deep thought until recently and it made me realize how I went through my entire life mentally blind.
My therapist calls this objective intellectualizing of my self and told me this is what leads to my analysis paralysis in choosing who I am. She warned me that disintegrating my identity into a collection of processes influenced by time, surroundings and values is what lays at the ground of my panic attacks when I internally realize that knowing will never get me what I want, which is - still - control, but without interfering with the agency of other people around me.
lvl 10 therapist
I see what you mean. Alot of times in life we understand things by their opposites as well, showcasing a balance in that form of thinking/feeling. Almost like for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. While I can see that these thoughts lead to a loss of self, at the same time it's your eyes interpreting light waves at whatever interval in order just to percieve, it's your skin detecting energy in the air and that's how we feel heat energy. Our minds interpret this natural world(and only at it's speed, this speed differs from thing to thing) and with every last bodily process we have we internalize this natural world and regurgitate that same info but with our own unique twist. In that way you are creating this world and that's what you have control over, the meaning of it all. And if you wanna be damned by it then you will, if it's freeing than it's freeing.
@@adriancape4752 lvl 8 spirit pathology
You have to accept at some stage and others, you MUST interfere with other people's internal agency. There is no escaping this without becoming a self sustaining hermit
Who cares. The world isn’t as sunshine and rainbows as your therapist makes it out to be. If you have to be a shell of your former self to appease this modern society, then so be it.
There’s this lady on my block that if you bring her a box of crayons and a little meth, she’ll draw this same picture and give you this exact speech.
😂😂😂
I promise you that THIS is the highest level of thinking. Joking in such a way when most would look at this all serious 😉
Or toss her a bag of mushrooms and ask how her trip was 😂
I met a lady at a motel but instead of a box of crayons or a little meth, she wanted kfc. Didn't give me a speech though, her mouth was full. But I'm sure she enjoyed the kfc once i left.
Mama Murphy? ;-)
i actually remember the exact moment i reached level 3 lol i had the most mindbending moment in my elementary school bathroom when i looked in the mirror and it suddenly hit me all at once that when others see me they only see my shell, they don’t see my interior experience or my character or anything like that. they just see what i see in the mirror and that’s it. i’ve never forgotten that moment. it was really sad for me, actually. i felt profoundly lonely and misunderstood in that moment. and i still feel like that to this day, actually.
I think we reveal a little of what goes on inside with our interaction with each other. How much depends on how vulnerable you're able to be around that person. It's like the difference when people know you but they don't know you like a loving parent might because they've had more exposure to that authentic self.
Becoming sentient is crazy. I remember the first time it occurred to me in like jk that other people had thoughts and experiences like my own and they should be considered real and respected. It hit me like a train. My whole behavior pattern changed forever.
They only see the outside and the strawman they conceive. However, you make them aware that you are a living soul by speaking from your heart consistently and living out your God given purpose.
And now your eyebrows, eyelashes, lips, skin tone and hair color are fake to try to appear better to others than you really are. Still some climbing to do.
The next level is realizing that those other people don't exist at all. This is comforting until you make the logical leap that you don't exist either. That is the final level, since then you realize there are no levels. Just a cloud of hydrogen that was left alone for way too long.
Level 10 sounds like being in the flow state of creation or working out, actually getting the brain to quiet down and just live
stoicism lvl complete
Flow is an ACTUAL level of consciousness, like fight or flight or focused attention. This is Ken Wilbur's pseudo science bullsht.
About five years ago I tried to break down a similar scale like this and I ended up giving up. This is amazing! Thank you for dedicating the time to do all of this!
I had to claw my way up in the dark trying to figure this all out. So so happy to see it being put so succinctly in an easy-to-understand manner. Thank God you didn't let the fear of doodles stop you, please don't let anything else stop you either. I never comment but this needs to blow up so more people can see it.
Trust me this information is presented to you for the entirety of your life you just choose to ignore it. Lets not act like we wake up and spend 8 hours a day working on our consciousness and awareness. We all work for uncle sam. What do you think is gonna happen if more people see this video?
People see college and dont go dude... The knowledge been there, but ignorance is more fun
My doodles suck... MS whiteboard and smart friends to the rescue!
@@PerryCaliTrue words. I learned this kind of stuff just reading fiction as a kid.
@@PerryCali I feel like theres a difference between knowing and understanding. I knew about this for a long time but didn't "understand" and actually resonate with it until recently, as I can tell that my entire perspective and attitude has changed.
@PerryCali that's true. But it's not the only issue. Some people don't even know this kind of information even exists... not cauz of ignorance but accessibility, for others its just incocievable because they have lived a certain way too long. Making these things mandatory human knowledge in the education system is a good start for global inlightenment and betterment.
PLEASE DO NOT CHANGE YOUR DRAWING STYLE. It gives this channel a lot of personality, it feels kinda great to see that such complex ideas can be representated with such simple drawings (even though I almost colapsed when I firstly saw the chart about thoughts levels).
I love these channel, you really explain things I thought no one would never talk about in social media, it's like a dream turn reality
I like the cartoons, but the camera work and focusing around the cartoons could be better.
@@diazigy I like it the way it it, but yeah, he still has room for improvement. Anyways, those kind of details are more about personal preferences so
Totally agree with him,
the content is way deeper to focus on the graphics,
since they only visually support you explaining.
Totally loved your personality. Subscribed!
As he says it's just development
Nah it's perfect. Feels comedic and down to earth, there's a charm to the child like aesthetic. Almost like "Casually Explained"
This is by far one of the best videos I have ever watched on TH-cam. This really helped me pinpoint exactly why are some people are not capable of having certain conversations or why I find it hard to make friends or why some people consider me to be mature. Like, sometimes you just think the way you do and aren't always aware that peoples thinking levels stop at certain levels.
Consider this tho. Perhaps it's easier to make friends when you focus more on self- awareness (Knowing where every triger, good or bad, comes form), Knowledge, Skills, Productivity, and empathy, than thinking? It sounds like you guys are actually 10 levels inside your head when some people are out here living in the present moment. Zen masters, which btw Ken wilbur (the guy who made this graph) is a big fan of, calls it the "thinking disease". Turns out when you are skilled, productive, know how to connect with anyone, and know your own BS, you can just trust life and let go. But this thinking sht is just going to sink you deeper inside your own head.
i think this is why therapy helped me so much, it’s like it trained me to stay at level 8
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@@eileenswagatron420 yet the moment i mention anything about gay people you'll regress to level 4
Level 8 when it comes to self awareness is the only important part, because it allows you to understand why you're not in the present moment. Otherwise, you're 10 levels inside your head when some people are out here living in the present moment. BTW guys, read some actual psychology, not this pseudo science BS.
It's crazy for someone else to explain so neatly something you have been trying for your whole life to understand. I like that you stated that higher levels of thought doesn't exactly mean they are better, I've struggled with anxiety my whole life and I definitely get trapped in loops of overthinking and decision paralysis. I have learned in my adult years that sometimes its okay to chill at the lower levels and just be yourself. But I think if everyone had even just one breakthrough moment where they thought at higher levels, we would have a much better understanding of our world and how to live happily with one another.
decision paralysis =/= higher levels. same for overthinking. you can overthink from the same single perspective, and have decision paralysis from one frame of view, while neglecting other frames of view. you can also 'chill' at higher levels, especially if it's bringing you answers to questions that could not be answered at lower levels, and allowing you to be more productive than you would have been otherwise, and therefore content with your improvement. there are many examples of this. I think anxiety is more of a nervous system problem and can happen at any level, low or high.
Wouldn’t Greek philosophers be on some of the higher levels though
lvl 1:
> i want donut
lvl 2:
> me and other want donut
lvl 3:
> me and others want donut
lvl 4:
> me and others want donut but rules first
lvl 5:
> me and others want donut but rules second science first
lvl 6:
> me and others want donut but rules AND science AND religion AND tribe AND etc all together
lvl 7:
> me and others want donut but rules doesn't want donut. Remove rules
lvl 8:
> me and others want donut but rules OR science OR religion OR tribe OR etc
lvl 9:
> i dont know if I want the donut
Right and best is situational… that’s what you realize at second tier…and as you climb higher you still retain access to the lower levels.
In fact not having them as a solid foundation can make you dysfunctional even when you are at higher levels of awareness. Which is why it is important to understand the impact of trauma in undermine that foundation. The climb is important because you become more versatile and less reactive to other people. You see people less in terms of good and bad and more in terms of different degrees of being awake. The less awake they are the more people and things they bump into.
@@metagorgeThis is important, this is where you SELF diagnosis issues, to further research, to than bring to doctors a host of symptoms, to find a treatment plan, not for labels or money, or even health, but for every reason imaginable, positive and practical, again Occam's razor is super important here, especially when debating what's best to even tackle.
But stagnation is intolerable at a higher level... And realizing you have severe issues, can be quite crippling. Because you realize the dissociative mindfuck you are as a human being...
ADHD meds, figuring that out about myself, gave me everything you described... until, I split on a woman again in my life. Horrific experience for everyone involved, after YEARS.
Getting BPD/DBT treatment soon... wish everyone was this morally responsible or tries to be 😂😂
"The levels of consciousness are not good or bad, it's self-awareness"
that's good of you to point out, because I sit at a level 8 most of the time, and the bills aren't even paid yet. Sometimes you just watch and have no desire to be human now.
Yes!!! I have to force myself to engage in reality. I am constantly working on grounding. Especially since my family relationships aren’t great (mom is a narcissist) not having relationships to ground you can be dangerous. That’s why I stress duality, not oneness. Oneness is a reality in other realms, but ego and separation are a reality in this realm. You have to remember both truths.
Hmm I did go through that but I got past that ultimately, but that is a wierd feeling for sure
If it’s not good or bad then it’s not good.
@@Quincy_Morris that not really the point.
@@TheSpiritualNoob just lock in bro
Level 9 sounds a lot like manifesting to me. I know this word gets thrown around a lot but what I mean with it is the attitude you carry around into the world and what reflects back to you. You choose your fights, you choose weather or how to react and what to make out of it. You can literally create your reality only in your head.
Level 9 attempts to describe what being grounded in the present experience is like. You are mindful, you are interactive, you are curious, you are at ease, there's no answers because there is no questions, you are EXPERIENCING. What you are describing is being 9 levels inside your head, what in eastern societies would describe as the thinking brian disease. They glorified KNOWLEDGE above thought, regarded thoughts as poor theories generated by your subjectivity, and knowledge requires interaction, not theories or delusions.
In the previous two years i start thinking in the highest levels but when i see my environment i start saying to myself maybe im just overthinking and i even start to say maybe im losing my mind, it was really stressful and i couldn't find the words to discribe how i was thinking so no one was getting what i was saying, im so happy i find this video.
It sounds like you guys are actually 10 levels inside your head when some people are out here living in the present moment. Knowledge is the best source of logic, not thinking yourself to death lmao. Also, communicating is a skill, regardless of how much you know, if you don't know how to communicate, you are sinply toast.
His way of explaining with his "doodles" is so unique yet so effective. Great video.
Like children he teaching is, hhmm. 👽
Sam O’nella academy might be something you really enjoy. He also does silly doodles while he teaches
@@jasonwilliams9803I do think Sam O'Nella tends to be a little too fast
Yes keep the doodles if you can
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This is a really cool way to organize ways of thought, but I'm getting the vibe that it attracts people who have an intelligence superiority complex, giving them a way to 'rank' how smart they are and others are
I assume intelligent people would do anything to stay on the lower levels. Higher levels describe and lead to madness more than intelligence in my opinion.
Yes, it does. Everybody who is ranking themselves is at most and most often at 5. Higher levels would not.
I’m sure that’s just a general rule of ideology.
There’s always someone ruining things.
This is a just a hyper aware categorization of cognition beyond the self.
If someone’s gonna turn that into bullying, that was always their plan lol
Absolutely the oposite in my case. I have almost no intuition and have to intellectualize everything to understand. I makes me feel like a fool trying to understand and categorize everything instead of just living. So material like this speak in the languaje i understand better, humbeled, not proud because of that
Ohhh yeah lol, good point. Pretty sure there’s another chart for that lol
Getting to the higher levels can feel reallyyy empty and confusing because he can kinda trap you in this hole where you don’t even know ur true feelings. After you’ve analysed ur feelings so much that it just feels weird to watch others so easily succumb to that short term relief of revenge or whatever. It can even trap you in this feeling of being above all these things that it’s stops you from wanting to enjoy basic human desires like chase women and make friends. It always seems to be interpreted as you thinking urself to be superior and you understand exactly why they think that and why you think the way you do but can never communicate that.
Honestly this vid perfectly describes the way I’ve come to see myself and the world and glad I found this channel👍
The thing is that communication is a skill, a different part of the brian than thinking, that you have to learn to develop. Empathy is also a skill. Being present is a skill. Knowledge (LEARNING not thinking) is the best way to develop your logic. Productivity is a skill. Emotional maturity is a skill. And all of this things can get you a good job and a good partner EASILY. Thinking is basically your bain making inaccurate theories and impeding you to be in the present moment, while skills ground you to real life. Tell me, do you still feel superior after reading this comment? lmao
This has happened to me and you explained it perfectly. @Arcanineistthebest’s reply should get you to snap out of the strange feeling of being above everything because of, I guess apathy.
One of the best video i ever watched, i truly understand every part of it because of the great explanation
The little drawings help so much more than when I tried learning this through pure text.
I hope this channel flourishes, this is incredibly helpful.
Personal examples with a walkthrough of the line of thinking helped a ton too
A lot of people (like myself) are visual learners. You could've given me a book or an audio-only version and I would've switched off after 30 seconds.
@@gooble69 exactly, if I can see it, I can figure it out on my own more or less. Just hearing it is like listening to someone give directions. Instantly forgotten once the trip starts
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Level 8 and 9 remind me of what mindfulness meditation people talk about! Fascinating to see how different sciences and cultures can overlap like that
I love mindfulness. We practice it every night in my dorm
Your dead on the money, meditation is definitely key. Meditation helps your mind expand but not just meditation alone, your mind has to be willing to expand and you cannot expand if you do not make room for more ideas to enter your mind unbound by biases. The more you can open your mind and be less judgmental the more room for expansion. Nuance is key for true growth, when you press in to learn more and understand more both light, dark and everything in between the universe unfolds everything in front of you. It's like staring into the abyss, the abyss stares back into you. Likewise the universe, don't stop, keep pushing. Leave not one stone left overturned and life as you know it will look like a matrix. More layers will peel back and just observe, lvl 9 is where it's at but only if you can handle it. You have to open your own mind to expand that far, it's a matter of one's own will to make a way. Will you tell yourself you know enough or will you open up to be once more surprised that this universe is in communion with you.
A lot of "esoteric" or "occult" stuff from early ages are legitimate things. A lot of Eastern practices like meditation have actual positive brain effects, and magick in Europe prior to Christianity, half of it was just proto-psychology rituals for self-development and discipline.
Meditation and mindfulness is definitely a level 6 practice, 100%. Level 7/8 is observing the results of, and influencing the direction of that mindfulnes, as well as accepting multiple lifestyles and cultures while also believing they exist better separate than they do together. Level 6 would put everyone together.
Yuri Bezmenov detailed how meditation/mindfulness was specifically capitalized on by the KGB as a cultural weapon against Americans in order to specifically create the problematic cultures that were directly brought up by hoe_math as a result of 6 thinking.
Level 7 thinking is the worldview supported by modern Russia now instead.
Sounds like what people talk about when they're describing "christ consciousness"
Being able to see things Visually always makes it easier for the audience to understand things. People achieve it through different ways, animation, CGI, etc. Even though you didn't have the means to make it into an animation, I thank you for making it into a video where you not only talked about it but also showed it to us, so that we could understand the topic better. That itself shows your commitment towards imparting knowledge to other. Thank you from India.
I cried. Feel very validated. Understand finally why I have always been so lonely.
My husband said I’m like the cat up in the wall watching all the things.
Like the crows playing.
Tavern of People cavorting.
Grove of trees… symbiosising lol
Yea. Exactly.
What am I symbiotic to. Sitting watching waiting hiding attempts at decending.
I don’t know and it’s the one battleship I actually don’t sink.
Wanna cry again? This whole theory of coined by a guy called Ken Wilbur. Look him up, and all the disgusting BS he and his associates have done. Funny enough, he is very into Easter spiritism, which is all about bring PRESENT in the current moment and feeling it, not about thinking baout thinking about thinking. That's what Zen masters call "the thinking brain disease". The less you THINK, and the more Present and aware you are, the happier you are. Thoughts can never grasp reality, it's a fake version of it in your brian, and all your theories about anything are psychologically proven to be extremely biased, colored by subjectivity. If you were to accept LIFE is about the RIGHT NOW, would you spend your RIGHT NOWs thinking up in the wall? Or would you interact and interact and interact and interact? Your thinking gets improved the more you interact, you don't have to sit back and categorize anything. i believe in you! Sending you love.
I, I, I.
Me, me, me.
My, my, my.
Doesn't anybody tell a story anymore?
"I am not the main character, I am just the spotlight [...] If we want a better world and a better life, we have to learn where and how to shine that light."
That was a great way of expressing the 'point' of a lot of meditative practices and eastern mysticism dealing with level 9 stuff.
Yes. As a practitioner that gets triggered explaining stuff to “students”
I appreciate this very much.
Which completely obliterates the concept of thinking about thinking. Eastern misticism is all about being in the present moment and radical awareness, they knew thoughts were a poorly constructed theories of reality, and knowledge through learning and experience was much more valuable than any thought your head can produce. Meditation if done correctly actually DETACHES you from your thoughts and grounds you in the present experience.
This video came at a weird time… I graduated with a bachelor’s degree in Psychology literally last week. Four years of education taught me plenty about Piaget, Freud, etc. but this video basically summarizes everything. Thank you for making this video, it is cool to see everything I have learned come together into one amalgamation. (I was mentally fact checking you the entire time)
Come back in five years and let us know how much useful info you actually learned in school. Everything a psych degree teaches about Piaget, Maslow, Freud, Erikson, etc. is nearly basic human associate’s degree knowledge at this point.
Yep, as someone who studies psychotherapy I can tell it shows really good how does psychotherapist think during terapeutic sessions. Wish you luck with your studies :)
Lol
Same here, literally graduated a week ago, just that my degree was in economics. Surprisingly when you dig deeper the core ideas of economics are actually based in philosophy and psychology instead of mathematics.
@@americandissident9062 Its only natural for a psych degree to cover basic knowledge about Erikson or Freud. They are not even psychologists!
1 - I should do what I need
2 - I should do what I want
3 - I should do what I like
4 - I should do what is ethical (Norms and Rules)
5 - I should do what is necessary (Logical)
6 - I should do what is right (Moral)
7 - I should do what is good (Sometimes what is right is not good) Nothing is 100% good nor 100% bad
8 - I should do what is best (Sometimes what is good is not what is best) Even if it is Imoral - Requires Detachment
9 - I should do what I wise (The nuances within nuances of choices)
This is a great description of all the areas I have studied in the last 25 years in psychology, philosophy therapy, spirituality and recently thought that globally each country is at a stage of evolution and if its a rigid or loose culture . Your description at level 8 describes some of how im currently thinking . In clinical work we had competency checks checksheets to help people see what information, knowledge skills they needed in mental health dependent on thier role .ie a school janitor , teacher , psychiatrist all have a role in the child life but don't need same levels of competence.
my dad sent this to me. thank you for your video. very grateful. i love your drawings. i love everyone who is actually interested in this. anyone who sees this have a blessed day
merry christmas to you too
this gives me hope that one day, i can have a relationship with my father like that
I found myself emotional watching this. I feel like I've sought truth out of the universe too long and not only did I not find answers but I feel like I've isolated my way of thinking from others.
I don't feel as alone now and the thought that somewhere out there someone else felt what I felt watching this makes me happy. An elevated consciousness means nothing if you forget the basics.
Thank you for your video.
I understand how you feel, as time has progressed and we become more self aware we realize the way we think, and notice our separation from others. I don't like proclaiming intelligence on any level but I know that as we increase the depth of the thought we can generate and understand, we tend to solve, live, think, feel and separate from others. This is isolating as the fact we can be viewed by other humans for having a different thought be seen as immoral and labeled as a bad person, very isolating. But it takes time to realize that sometimes the best thing to do is to fit in. Which is probably why higher levels are not intrinsically better. I found that the best way to cultivate this idea and expand volume of consciousness is to connect with other people of similar depth. Just always keep in mind, we aren't better that anyone else, and no one holds superiority, as to err is to be human. so always keep an open mind. Good luck on your journey, friend.
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for me trusting the universe and that everything will be okay is the only thing that keeps me going atp. the one thing i know is that its my friend so ill just accept what its doing for me 🤷♂
@@aura.expanse hey dude you should give "the alchemist" a read, I think you'd really enjoy it. Given your interest
I have discovered that the key is learning to "tune in" to the different consciousness levels being expressed or utilized by the individual or group, as well as being consciously aware enough about the advantages(or lack thereof) of discerning whether it is an optimal action for you(myself) to interact with them or not. To practice, you have to engage with almost all the variations of consciousness levels expressed by different beings at their own levels, however once you get the hang of it(or at least when it seems obvious for you to) you choose to associate with those that will optimize your life as well as the lives you too can optimize as well(some are more receptive than others to "change" lol).
Like a string(or in groups, strings) on a guitar, you must learn to understand and be able to recognize the tension(or lack thereof) of each consciousness level, learn to adjust your own to each variation for maximum harmony, and generate the unique symphony of experience we all love called Human Being, filled with both Joy and Suffering, and so much more.
Eventually, you will be so adept at it and the community at large will be so attuned to it that you yourself can be one of the main "Strings" that help to tune all the other strings in order to optimize the world and the future of humanity. At least, that's my theory or wish.
Regardless, good luck to all who read this, and may God bless you and your loved ones.
I love the articulation, very elegant the way you demonstrated it. It’s a rabbit whole of thinking at the top, feels like chaos and discomfort without solutions.
Level 9 is like breaking up reality right in front off your eyes, without doing it yourself, you have no thoughts all day, you just perceive the fabrics off reality without thinking about it, you just know the answers already from the beginning. At this level is where most scientist are based and analytics
Level 9 attempts to describe what being grounded in the present experience is like. You are mindful, you are interactive, you are curious, you are at ease, there's no answers because there is no questions, you are EXPERIENCING. What you are describing is being 9 levels inside your head, what in eastern societies would describe as the thinking brian disease. They glorified KNOWLEDGE above thought, regarded thoughts as poor theories generated by your subjectivity, and knowledge requires interaction, not theories or delusions.
I've been studying all of this from psychology and spiritual traditions, and personal experience for decades, but I've never seen it all in one place like this. Thank you
Yes!! It’s funny because people at a lower level will say “all these books and videos all say the same thing but in different packaging, they all just copy each other” but it’s no, they all say the same thing because the truth is the truth and everyone’s coming at it from different angles. It all connects beautifully.
When level 7 was introduced, my mind was blown. I’ve been having a realization over the past few months that i’ve been improving a lot because i’ve spent a lot of time rethinking my actions throughout my life and what motivated them, how others felt, how those feeling would make me feel, how others would view me if they saw me behaved that way, understanding that different people have different views a lot variety of topics that might seem objective at first, accepting people just think differently and have very different views and goals. I started a new job which i drive an hour to and from so i have a lot of thinking time. I’ve thought about my life over and over. I also acknowledge i have a very different mind now then i did prior to college, my life goals feel more narrowed in and my maturity feels more engrained. I understand that comes with time and experiences, both of those turning me who i am today.
Such a great video, i will be thinking about this all week
Edit: I believe i’ve used level 8 and 9 a decent amount of times recently, for sure when i got close to graduating college, and when i started my new job. After i few times of realizing i was actually fixing bad habits using my mind to reinforce good thoughts and behaviors, i made a mental map of areas of my self i what to work on and broke those areas into bits of benefits and cons. Learning about yourself by examining yourself is one of the coolest things. I still have alot to work on but i can tell improvements have been made and it’s only the beginning
Hey brother, good to hear. Remember though thought isn’t consistent and it’s not you so do not attach yourself to it. No matter how high level it seems, observing is more important ❤ 💯
I love this, it’s so refreshing to hear more about this in others
@@UniversalMusicLtd584 Observing yes, the more watch myself, the more i critique the habits and behaviors i don’t think are beneficial to my long term goals. Reminds of a quote from some story. “They are learning how they learn”
This is the first time Ive seen a whole ass paragraph, like a almost essay like sentences or whatevs the word or sentence im trying to create.
This is a bit new.
But did you realize that you were realizing that you were developing and altering habits through time. Did you watch yourself in your observation of observing. Why? Why did you do that? See the thing is there is a level ten. That everyone fears and avoids like the plague. The question is : why? Why do you do any of this? Why watch at all? And then it goes further. Why ask the question why?
thanks for articulating this so well for people, ive been explaining all these things with sperate anaologies and concepts for people for a long time and this helps me. God bless
If only this channel was dedicated to more stuff like this rather than just dating stuff. I find this more fascinating to delve into and has more of an impact on self improvement for everyone who watches. I’ve watched this 5 months ago and my outlook on life has shifted so much since then, wanted to find more from this channel but it’s all focused on men/women psychology of the dating world.
100percent agreed
I agree that he could delve specifically into this more openly, but there's still a lot to learn through his usual stuff.
Dating and relationships are an integral part of people, as individuals making contact with each other and the environment is what makes a society (dating is just a part of it, but, you know, people having kids is kind of necessary for a society to continue existing).
Understanding psychology in the modern dating world helps you analyze the levels of thinking people are going through, including your own. Your reaction to his content may help you get your own thoughts and feelings together, letting you see where other people's thoughts and feelings are coming from, and respond accordingly, including a shift in focus to self improvement.
The decision is up to you, but I recommend taking a look at some of his dating videos and trying to understand them.
@@SneakyBastard-oi4eb I don’t mean to downplay the purpose of this channel, judging by the quality of this video alone i’m sure he helps many people in the dating world. It’s just i’m already in a loving relationship for 3 years with my girlfriend and pretty secure with my future with her. So in the hierarchy of needs i’m at the Self-Actualization part, and this Levels of Thinking video really filled that void for me. Even my girlfriend noticed my change of attitude, it made me look at all the parts he used in this from Spiral Dynamics to The 4 Quadrants chart. I wouldn’t say change his style entirely, but these videos will also help build an audience outside of dating that also helps self improvement.
I think he focuses on dating because it's the thing that occupies people's heads the most, and in the biggest numbers, but to be honest, fair enough. I actually agree with you, and I'm not looking for a relationship either (gonna keep myself out for now).
Then just read Ken Wilber like he did
I think in 7 days racking up to almost a million views really shows that you perfectly explained something that alot of people struggle with. Definitely worth the half hour… im amazed
I love it
Well a lot of that is a purchased promotional package. It comes with fake subs, likes, and comments. I'm not saying that someone should never do this, I'm just saying that's probably what went on.
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Wait sorry, what result exactly? I don't see how fake subs lead to a video doing well (if that's what you mean). Please enlighten me.
i think i just reached level 4. spent 22 years of my life so deep into my own thoughts that i never really fully understood that other people also go through things. lost friends because i wasn’t emotionally supportive enough. now i have a boyfriend and this year i learned that it really isn’t everything about me. i’m able to understand him and feel what he feels
Good for you. I still struggle to understand others. But nothing enough practice can't fix
Reading this just made me happy for you, wow :)
@@SolB808 My advice, Understand yourself first because when you understand yourself, you see yourself in everyone. Meditation #1
@@joeyoung7338 I do meditate though I started a month ago. Yeah, I should try to understand myself objectively. It is crazy how I never do that. I will be starting a blog as it turns out writing down stuff actually helps reveal my psyche. Thanks random stranger on the internet
in the same boat. im 21 but this past year being in a relationship and deeply understanding another person has helped me so much in understanding myself
I created a way for people to move to all levels. Having control, groundedness and centeredness whilst being able to move within the multi-dimensional elevator of life and consciousness has been the pattern of desire I've seen among all of my clients. I think this video was amazing to highlight the 1-3 levels vs going above to level 7. ALLways remember that knowledge is good, but wisdom is when it is rooted to the body. it becomes holistic.Visceral reactions to one own's faults is not 7 or above, it just means the return to the body/oneself is necessary
I use this content to help me understand the kind of person I am speaking with so I can help them see the next level of thinking about specific issues they think they understand. It is a terrific tool for opening minds.
I took AP psychology last year and it when pretty in depth about a lot of these topics, but now just a year later I realize I didn’t really retain a lot of the information that I think was most valuable. I just binged your whole channel and you put things in a way that really stick in a way that reading a textbook doesn’t quite do. I love your videos and I hope this channel makes you rich
you did not retain the knowledge of psychology as it was taught by female lecturers or in their syntax. Check "Sex and Culture" by Unwin + Brave New World by Huxley and you will have wider view on psychology
If you forget easily exercise your mind by jornaling
In schools in my cointry they used chalk boaurds for every student and they woulld wipe the chalk away right after they finished the stupidity of it is obvious in retrospective but we do that with good thoughts we dont write down
Your education doesn't stop outside of your schooling there's a enormity of wealth of information online if you can locate and secure reliable trusted sources of information.
Bro is working his way out of level 3
He doesn't need to be rich.
Dude this channel is so cool and expresses so many new ideas that I've genuinely never seen anywhere else. So cool that you do this and share your thoughts and thinking with us. Whether it does or doesn't get loads of views, it's so interesting to see these ideas expressed and taught. It's as if you've discovering your own useful branch of psychology and sharing it with the world, super dope stuff.
I know right?? This dude's insane for coming up with this much stuff by himself
@@name_adi I don't believe these are original thoughts. people have thought these things before him, and he has probably read up on those texts. there is a chance he has come up with the ideology independent of those texts which is commendable but unlikely imo
@@aryansharma9727 I think its just the fact that hes on youtube and graphically complied them in an easy format which is nice. Anybody that takes information and compiles it to make it easier for people to understand is smart
The subject matter isn't new, the capsule in which he explained it is incredibly well done and likely easier to digest for most though
Read power vs force by David Hawkins if you want this kind of info
I approached level 8 in 2015 when I was 25, and I've been firmly thinking at that level since 2019. Level 9 is what I'm struggling with. If I understand, it's like seeing yourself as a chess piece, and moving yourself between different environments, knowing how you'll respond and the influence it will have on your thinking.
I think about this all the time… consciousness… It’s nice to see someone lay it out this way, especially with the cool drawings, thank you.
I never saw a metacognitive breakdown of this before, but this is a banger video. On level 8 there's probably the perception of the passage of time, which changes depending on the scale you're operating at (like flow state.) Many people treat that as accidental and are peripherally of aspects of it, but consciously entering it is on an even higher since it deals with our attention and relationship with time. Being aware of the threshold of consciousness and what lies outside of it, and actively modifying those boundaries to serve us better might be around that level as well. There's so many levels beyond and I hope to keep noticing them now
this is a fresh comment i hope to one day notice things to your degree
Honestly I’ve been in the red pill space for around 10 years now. You’re like the only channel that hasn’t made it worse nor dilute it with bad material. Instead you make simple explanations and diagrams to help get people to understand! Thank you so much
All the red pill content I've seen focuses on "how to defend your interests as a man." I dislike the partiality of that, and I want to make people into overflowing fountains of giving who make shrewd choices about who to give to, rather than fearing who not to give to. It's an all-around better orientation.
@@hoe_math that’s fair the content has greatly went downhill. This is reminiscent to the 2015-2018 glory days.
really don't understand the appeal of red pilled content, it implies there is a good way to do things and most of the time content itself is rather toxic...
@@_vapor I agree. See it started with literally just taking the pill that women weren’t these angelic creatures that you get by being nice, sweet, and showering them with love. Due to all romance movies having the nerd get the girl at the end etc. redpill taught that it’s the masculine attractive men who got the girl, that being rich is a priority as well and that women are capable of extremely bad behavior as well……I remember content before that and for my age group it was terrible. Created a bunch of “betas” “simps” “nice guys” etc that became Incels later on.
So red pill isn’t needed now but in the past it definitely was
@hoe_math Hey man, I love your content! Why are you doing it? (I would love to see a video about it) I wanted to make a long comment here, about how I think you are not aware of how your videos could be interpreted.. especially in a short form it might have a different meaning that you would like to convey, however, I only have an assumption what you want with these videos!
Also, who the fuck I am to talk.. just felt like I would like a comment like this if I were you.. :$
(English is not my first language, I hope grammatically I am saying what I mean :D )
I can actually see the amaunt of work, education and research that has gone into putting this information alltoghether and compiling it in a diagestable format as a table. A lot of demographics, history, evolution, phsychology and philosophy went into this video. Most people will never be able to fully grasp all the information. Eurica!
(do you have a degree??)
I think the biggest trend line in this is, “how often do you question yourself and the way you think, and do you think your thinking is reliable?” The lower levels usually say “yes.” And the higher you go, you realize how ambiguous things are.
This is the most clearly stated intellectual dissertation I've ever seen someone make on the internet in a long time. Power to you hoe_math. It's like a breathe of fresh air watching this. Time army? LOVE IT! Nice ring to it.
Bruh plz tell me your not over 15 years old
No Time Army for you then. Good riddance.@@anim8dideas849
@@anim8dideas849 Lmao!
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The drawings feel more authentic and less pretentious because it avoids the trappings that often characterize such topics. I love it! When I dived into this channel for relationship advice, I never expected to be catapulted into this sort of thing. Thank you!
I think the higher the level you are the more you feel you are the thoughts and processing within rather than your material body and its needs. Like people on a lower level are more likely to get addicted to substances because they are only chasing wants and never thinking further than that.
Totally wrong. You still operate at base levels but just think about them and understand your behavior. Plenty of talented geniuses addicted to substances, or have eating disorders. They just know why, and accept it.
This sort of reminds of chakras from yoga. I love the presentation, how basic becomes all the complicated information.
I'm 21 minutes in and all the insights the host shares match my understandings gained from my yoga practice. And it takes time to grow and change as you move closer to understanding reality. Yoga says things like "all is illusion" because there are millions of perspectives and you only live with one. We're all dying and nothing really matters; those aren't pessimistic statements to me, those are revelations that have helped me live more happily.
One of the hardest things I learn as a teen was something a therapist told me and I hate " Anxiety is extremely individualistic". I FEELS like it's not cause you are always thinking "But what they would think about me?" but you are not actually being aware of other peoples feelings you are just stuck in your head ASSUMING you know what they think. You are extremely aware of your actions and thought but now enough aware of the PROCESS of thought.
Thats why (I think) anxiety could be a 6.
too focused on outcomes. life isn't found found in an imagined future
I think each level creates new opportunities for anxiety to present itself. Hell even level 1 could be extremely anxiety inducing because the world is a strange confusing place you don't understand.
I agree. For me the assumption of knowing iz based on knowing SELF in which one can understand what others may be thinking in that moment. Now an important thing to remember is it works better when you know said otherz. ÷
Anxiety is mostly focused on level 1 diminishing in 2 and 3. With more perspectives the anxiety goes down. Holding on to your ego is level 1 anxiety.
I would say I legit reached level 8 in the last week after a profound realization, but I still struggle with anxiety. Like you said there are many reasons for anxiety. Learned response, external stimuli, too selfconscious. I also reflect personalities so if I am around someone super anxious it makes me anxious as well
Too small of thinking
I hope this channel becomes more then just dating advice. I love his ability to communicate complex ideas in an easy to understand way.
I would really think it would be great, but it would probably suck if he tried to force it, talking about things he doesn't like or care about. I mean, let's just hope this dude have interests beyond dating. This video suggests it does. I hope he doesn't fall for that trap of betting always on the money making machine thing (which is easy even for smart people because, you know, involves money), making videos that please the algorithm and not himself.
PS: I just got here on the channel, I wasn't even aware of the dating advice theme, but I loved it.
it was dating advice huhhh
this is trash
@@21morphathis is the first video I've ever seen from this channel. I like it, but yeah I hope the rest isn't the typical alpha/sigma male bullshite or I'll be gone.
@@wg8561its not. I've seen his tiktoks he bashes both sides
I don't know what level I am at but I think I'm closest to 9. Very insightful with wild implications.
I agree with 7 through 9, for me, it truly doesn't matter what happens along the way, we can only make our own choices in the grand web of complexity as best as we can as they come up, every step of the way. That is our biggest - and only - power. As soon as we make them, they are fully out of our control and the only influence we can have is by making the choice that throws us in the right direction and wishing that by the time we arrive at our next choice, we can again make one that moves us towards our goals.
That is the true meaning of using the word wish, at least in how I interpret it for myself. I also truly think that we need to get to a level 9 societal structure as _soon_ as possible for a variety of reasons.
This chart just explains so much about my own experience it's crazy. The more I think about it the more real it becomes.
This also explains why to me at least, I have stopped being anxious at all and why I fell like we are all just part of a greater whole - each with our own purpose but ultimately no control. No idea if this makes sense, I really struggle to put these thoughts into words. I really want to have an in-depth conversation with you now haha
You have a very articulate way of taking notes I wish I was at that level of note taking.
I was an art major. Keep your doodles as they are. They are a perfect compliment to your spoken word and quick editing style. If thr drawings were any more detailed or more complex it would distract people more and most likely lose viewers.
I used to drink heavily and lost my "self". It took me 1.5 years of trial and error and many therapy sessions and CBT lessons to finally become aware of my "self" again and progress through mindfulness exercises. I've had a lot of time to just sit and think during the last 9 years now. Your video has helped me understand and visually compartmentalize the various levels and states of awareness. I think it might be difficult to progress to each next level past the white line without having someone else to talk about and relate to it with. I think I sit somewhere in 6 and waver back and forth down to 3 or 4 and then up to 7.
CBT?
@@PseudoWounds_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _?
@@PseudoWoundsc*ck and ball torture?
Cognitive Behavioral Therapy @@PseudoWounds
This man literally just took me through every level as he explained it. Thinking through level 9 is nuts af
I’m autistic with ADHD and I’m usuallly on a level 8, if not, level 7. when I get high however, I get wired into level 9 and gradually to go back to level 7-8 once sober. At times level 9 thinking can last for days.
Honestly I believe that this is the cause of hyper awareness of masking, sensory processing, and emotional intelligence. As hoe math said, sometimes higher isn’t better, with all that self awareness comes daunting self responsibility and forced self reflection
@@Signiaa_Same I don’t like 8 very well. I found it ironic that level 1 had autism as the pathology but (I high dislike this term) most “HF ASD” people understand up to 7 from an early age and can (doesn’t mean they do) process on 8 a lot due to the constant analysis on their social interactions because we have to do those manually; however, ONLY if they are aware they are autistic. Elsewise you get stuck in the lower levels (under 5).
Edit: I agree completely on the sobriety aspect. Unless I’m medicated this does not work.
@@Signiaa_ yeah maybe u should rewatch the vid a few times, don't think u really get it
level 9 is quite literally just monist thinking which has been around for centuries, there are 1 billion teachers for self realization and the process for it, this video just describes A CONSTRUCTED levelling process that isn't correlated with reality in any sense and is entirely based on his experience
i spend most of my time between level 8 and 9 and i have to say it is incredibly exhausting. Every 6 months or so i get a completely different results on my personality tests and it feels like i'm a completely different person and cant recognize myself, sometimes i read text from only 2 years ago and im completely baffled with what i wrote and come to the realization that it literally was a different person as i have change over time due to my subjective experiences and im observing the fact that i observed that. And it makes me realize that i truly have that unlimited possibilities on who i could become and who i am. Its like so to me everything is completely subjective including my own mind and the way i observe my mind is also subjective. "I think therefore i am" feels like it doesnt apply me. Because how can i be sure that that is the case, what about the me that thought 2 years ago, that me was a completely different me, its not the me as i know me today and its definitely not the me that i will be in the future, is the me of today even the me of the future, am I truly even me or even real? What even am I?
as an over thinker who is deeply spiritual and into the materialistic impact of society on spirituality, I spend most of my time thinking on about level 6 or 7 and let all of the consequences of misunderstanding the lower levels and my relationship to the world as affected by them, kinda just sit. as such, I feel like I don’t belong here, because it feels like I am understood by nobody. my main advice that is impossible for me to take at this moment, but you should think about, is don’t let the lower levels fall by the wayside. everyone, and I mean EVERYONE, is affected by them, and if you ignore their affect on you because you feel like you are above it due to your advanced thinking, you will feel above everything, and sitting at the top is lonely, no matter how morally right it can be.
Bruh. You think being on a high level is morally right? Sounds like a lvl 4 conclusion :/
One of the greatest videos available on youtube!
I love how chaotic and confusing this is and somehow it still manages to make everything understandable XD
I think the doodles look pretty cute. The important part is finding your way to explain the what you want!!
this is nonsense if you have read works by greek philosophers you would know this video is far from accurate
@@baldworkswhich works are you talking about? I have read some works on philosophy myself, and its my understanding that many of these philosophers would concede that their way of thinking might not be right or wrong, it just is the way it is, and the philosophy is often a tool for navigating this world and our own life
It's a whole vibe. It all works beautifully together, somehow.
@@baldworks I never said it didn’t make sense, the way he presents the video is a bit chaotic but in a good way
I loved all of it!
The way I framed it must’ve been misleading for you :)
@@danlightened I agree!
This is an uncanny scientific description and distillation of zen practices and the results they can achieve. This stuff is usually communicated via metaphor, but you do an amazing job of putting it into concrete terms.
This is a great video! I find myself thinking through levels 6 or 7 when journaling as its there where I deconstruct events in life or when discussing a problem a friend has with their friend. It's very fun to hear it put into words and simple visuals.
Levels and levels of wisdom right there...
Only with very much experience one can watch the watching of himself watching others throught time and decide where one feeling is better than another in such situations to result in the best reaction to the situation. And position himself in the best possible scenario.
I have created many selves through time and I am very grateful that I acquired such wisdom.
I no longer wonder what would it be if I was like another person, I just know how it is to be like them and basically all the time I know I wouldn't like to be like them just because they don`t have my perspective of things.
It probably is the most valuable thing I have in life.
4:21 This is the same issue with 'therapy' and I bumped up against this problem just a few weeks ago. See, i have an issue with wiping off counters. There's just been this lifelong block with this one thing. I'll do dishes, scrub out the fridge and oven, wipe off the cabinet fronts, sweep the floor... then walk out of the room without wiping the counters off. I actually clean MORE in an effort to avoid wiping off the stupid counters. I hate myself for this problem.
Why do I do it? Goes back to my childhood. Both training and resentments. I fully understand the why. I know where the complex evolved from and how it affected me.
Last week I was talking to my husband and the topic was relevant so I said all that and we finished the conversation and it was done. But later it bugged me.
I kept thinking, so now what? I know this is an issue. I know why I have the issue. I understand all the ins and outs and history and psychology of the issue. But I'm a freaking grandmother for the love of gawd. What the hell am I going to DO about it?
There comes a point where the navel-gazing has to end. You've explored every crevasse here's no more lint to be found in the little hole. You just have to choose to grow up and actually change the behavior.
So I shifted my feelings of resentment from my parent and from my childhood imprinting and made myself resent ME. I now resent that part of me that allowed this BS to carry on for so damn long.
And my counters have never been so clean. See, I can't change the parent. I can't change the past. But I can change what I don't like about myself. I am the one factor in the universe that I have control over, so when I can shift my mindset to "I AM THE PROBLEM" now I have the power to fix it. It's always a sweet rush when that shift happens because I know I'm finally able to move forward.
Us navel-gazers have to realize that insight isn't helpful unless we apply it. My husband is the least navel-gazing person on planet earth, but when he finds some aspect of himself, he just changes it. There is no navel-gazing. "I don't like that I've been drinking as much as I have. I will no longer drink." "I'm suffering because I go to bed too late. From now on, I have a bed time." And then he *actually does the thing... FOREVER.* He truly is a god among men and I respect him so much.
The fact is, why doesn't matter. The only way to improve our lives to to practice radical, personal responsibility and just do the thing.
It's a hell of a lot faster and more effective than the brain stuff.
But I will admit, it's much less fun.
Beautifully said. Thank you for taking the time to articulate something that I am sure so many other people struggle with and can relate to.
That's why the best self-help advice is to "just do it." If you experience a negative feeling, then DO something about it, and see if you feel better. That's it.
I don't think I've ever benefitted from level 6 - level 7 consciousness. It's like trying to solve for 2 + 2 with a quantum computer. It just overcomplicates things and it becomes mental gymnastics so I can procrastinate taking action.
That was really a great read.
You write well and entertainingly. That's pretty rare. It's nearly non-existent in the younger generations.
I've been known to do a bit of navel-gazing, myself... But I do try to act on the things I learn from my excessive pondering of nonsense. (I find that writing things down when I think of something new helps make it useful.)
FIRE COMMENT!
Best comment I've read in a long long time. Once the thinking is done, the only solution is to move forward. Would be nice if there was a way to streamline the process and act faster, but maybe it comes with practice.
Your brain is beautiful, man. A lot of these stuff I’ve thought about before on my own, but I don’t have the skill set nor the knowledge nor the patience to synthesize and order them like this.
Your videos really have given me a lot of clarity about a lot of things, and now I’m deeply interested in reading and learning more about psychology.
This is becoming one of my favorite TH-cam channels.
You are now my new favourite TH-camr
I feel like level 8 should be basic for adults nowadays
My jaw was on the floor for most of this video, and not just your animations lol, but rather that I felt myself following along from my own life over the last few years. Recalling times of so-called 'shedding my skin' after low points in my life, saying like "oh yep, that was my exact observation level in high school, College, etc.". I always figured there was something out there like this but never 'on the head' as this. My stoic and amazing dad told me several times growing up that I just thought differently than my peers, and whenever I found myself frustrated about the inevitable alienation that I began to foster around myself, I realized that everyone around me really only thought for themselves and over trivial stuff no less. Growing up around people much older than myself, I managed to live through a depression of prolonged loneliness because I truly felt that somehow what I thought was intrinsically "correct" or "mature". As you said, "...higher does not always mean better." and that could not be more true, perception or wisdom or whatever 100% come at a price; whether sanity, happiness, connections, or anything else. In any regard, thank you for reading this post and a thin slice of my life, i continue to live humbly on the path of life that we all will continue to walk. 'Learning' too much too quickly can be a difficult, and often painful, hurtle to jump, but i encourage everyone to never quit and know when you are just spinning your wheels in life. Be patient, always take a step back whenever you find yourself lost to your emotion. Sorry for the rant, I rarely if ever comment on videos but this felt different, this is a great video with much to process. I hope everyone has a great life ahead!!!
You are beautiful!
Thank you for the comment 😌
Thanks for sharing... I felt pretty much the same as you do.
The, "I have a sinking cruiser" send me rolling! Xd
Whenever I go through my "introspective spirals" in I'm left with an alien feeling, like, if the world I'm living is so gray and artificial... I now believe that those spirals are what happen when I negatively go in that 6-7-8-9-8-9 loop... As you say, it's like having a cruiser... *BUT A SINKING ONE* LMAO XD
I automatically reset my level to my good old 4 - 5 zone after some time. Only going higher when I need or want to. Higher levels consume too much power :v xd
I relate pretty heavily, I spent alot of time alone growing up and as a result was in my head alot and still am sometimes to a problem extent maybe. I really appreciate this video because it actually opened my eyes to some of the pitfalls in thinking that can make you spiral abit. Ive been trying to work on myself and improve like anyone and I think this video will help me maybe not stumble so much in the process.
I had a lot of issues and was depressed so to escape I had to rip my consciousness apart and dissect where all my issues were coming from. The last example you gave with your drawings was surprisingly exactly the way I figured out how to work through my problems
It was the same with me. I think the journey to self-improvement requires you find higher and higher levels of understanding.
Hey there, I'd highly recommend checking out Buddhism (This isn't some "you need jesus" crap, Buddhism is a method of living in this life). The 4 noble truths are literally about that, accepting that suffering is, that you can find the root cause of it, that you can stop it and then a "path" towards living without. Ripping apart your consciousness is exactly that. Also, HealthyGamer GG channel is an excellent start.
@@FurlessApe22really interesting thanks for the insight
He says: "this isn't some you need Jesus crap"
Then proceeds to offer a religion that you spend essentially forever trying to quit being reborn even though you have no soul or person.
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All based on the teachings of a man who was just one of the many bodhisattva BUT *specifically* from the "Tuṣita" heaven, (buddhist cosmology is migrane inducing, cuz ya kno: "dukkha") who, depending on which opinion from which buddist "off-shoot"/sect (in other words no one knows, or EVER DID) decided to take the shape of a "white elephant to be reborn on Earth for the last time."
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This white elephant, enlightened state buddha, from a specific heaven, for whatever reason, went into what I guess he chose to be his mother's womb (via her right side?) to be born, but was still a result of sex of his mom and dad(?).
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All this to live a life in search of how to "detach" and "break the cycle" which he for some reason was the first one to "figure it out" giving us the "middle road" to achieve nirvana as a means to quit being born over and over again (be good or you might be born as a dung beetle)
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BUT....
No "Jesus crap" though...
Obviously you can do whatever you want, you've been GIVEN the free will to do whatsoever you please.
But don't try to reduce the real undeniable existence of Jesus Christ to "crap".
Jesus Christ, who factually lived, that we have verifiable first hand witness accounts of, is backed by historical, archeological, and scientifical evidence...not to mention the literary miracle, the Bible, and it's never been exhausted details and explanations for human existence, creation, meaning, moral values, reason for suffering/evil, death, eternal life after...
but yeah....Buddhism bro, no Jesus "crap", btw check out this dudes channel he's like super close to nirvana man."
I say all that to say this: Believe it or not I got nothing but love for you and since I come from a Catholic upbringing which led me to hate church in the Bible only to eventually come to the realization that my preconceived notions and bias towards the Bible we're not fair and we're founded in my CONTINUED dislike (to say the least) of Roman Catholicism.
once I put aside my preconceived motions biases opinions and simply just looked in to studying the historicity of the Bible alongside some personal spiritual self-reflection and prayer I came to what I believe to be the only logical conclusion and quite easy to come to with that, which is simply that the Bible is exactly what it claims to be.
Jesus of Nazareth, Son of God (literally God in the flesh) came down here 2023 years ago (current year=how long since His bday, go backwards for anytime before [BC] lol, world changing event) to be murdered by His own creation, for you.
God in the flesh, who made the entire universe, was sentenced to Capital punishment: death by Roman Crucifixion.
Order was given by one "Pontius Pilot" who was the fifth governor of the Roman province of Judaea, serving under Emperor Tiberius.
As a result, your Creator, suffered a horrific death, being tortured, spit on, mocked, beard ripped out, and the One who made the entire planet, hung bloody, entirely naked, disfigured, entrails showing;
this He suffered while having the power to come down off the cross and wipe out all humanity at any point if He wanted to but no, instead we read in Luke 23:34 'Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do...'
God in the flesh died for you.
Because if you're honest with yourself you know that you are what the Bible would call a sinner.
Because besides Jesus who lived a perfect sinless life (only way to be a perfect sacrifice on our behalf is to be perfect) so is EVERYONE ELSE who ever lived.
And a perfect God cannot allow sin into a perfect place such as heaven because if He did, man would ruin all of outer space/heaven just like we are doing to Earth.
And the judgement for sin, anything less than perfection, is death and eternity seperated from God in hell.
But hell wasn't even made for you, Matthew 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire PREPARED for the DEVIL and his ANGELS."
And He died for all of His creation because He loves us:
John 3:16-17 KJV
[16] For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. [17] For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved."
So he took your place on the cross, died for your sins, took your sins down to hell when He went there for you and dropped them off, rose from the dead on the 3rd day according to the scriptures, and ascended back up to His rightful place in Heaven.
All that just in the HOPES (because He isn't a slave owner He gave you free will) that you will accept His FREE GIFT (you don't earn it) so that you can be forgiven, clean by blood of the "Lamb".
These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God. And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:
1 John 5:13-14 KJV
Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.
Romans 10: 9-10
⁹ that if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
¹⁰ For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation."
Romans 10:13
¹³For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Get saved brothers/sisters, God doesn't want you trying to worry about breaking The Reincarnation cycle trying to achieve Nirvana or get whatever prize whatever religion is offering you by your own works.
No he wants you to know that you are going to heaven by simply trusting in Jesus Christ dying for your sins. He wants you to have peace, hope, purpose, meaning, a literal one on one personal relationship with you; and to spend eternity in Heaven with you there.
We aren't guaranteed tomorrow, but we are guaranteed to die; don't put it off just simply trust Jesus Christ (cuz it's not crap, only reLIEgion is) and I hope to see yall topside after this short life on earth.
Love.
Life is Short
Death is Sure
Sin the Curse
Christ the Cure
Wow, same to me, i am astounded on the fact other people come up with that and effectively implement it to solve those infinite issues
I think I tend to play around with level 8 and 9 more often, and I think this happens because I’ve acquired an urge to basically explain to myself why I do certain things, and occasionally when I’m unsatisfied with that, I look for what specifically could help steer me in a better direction, and what might not be able to do that.
To be at the higher stages doesn't mean that it is better in the sense you are gonna have better things in life. It is better in the sense that you will have a better perspective of things in life and that can significantly reduce suffering for one person at these stages.
Man, you are really in your creative flow right now. Looking forward to the long version.
I actually find the low budget production refreshing, differentiates you from all the people teaching stuff online.
I grew up during the 60s and 70s. Level 6 was going crazy then. Your evaluation is correct, just because a person has embarked on the journey of higher level thinking, doesn't mean it's better. Those in level 6 then, made the mistake of the cliché, throwing out the baby with the bathwater. They didn't take the time to evaluate why things were, and properly assess what would happen if it was changed, replaced, or just thrown out. They also forgot that ideas have consequences.
And eventually when they got out of level 6, they often went back to level 3 or 4 jobwise ;)
This sounds so relatable. I didn’t grow up back then, believe it or not I’m actually a zoomer. I’ve always had my questions about my generation writing of morals they deemed to be outdated. As if they refuse to look at what these morals were put into place for to protect. I understand that times are changing, but I always felt like time is not the only thing in the equation and that human tendency/nature and it’s consequences also have to be taken into account.
@@uzi11111Don’t you understand why the theory failed in the 70s ? There is no level 7, it’s speculative. And somehow everyone in the comments conceives his present self at level 6. Don’t you see the problem ?
Too much level 6 can be even more dangerous than too much level 4
@@VACHAUD I'd say, go crazy - not literally, but try something unconventional. Attempt to construct a world you'd never expect or engage in something enjoyable just once where you had left all matters of consequences completely dealt with. Once you reach a point where you can observe virtually everything at least once, you can begin to shape reality itself. I believe that there's an infinite amount to acknowledge, but the categories are not. Even if you opt to notice the unity in everything or take a more practical approach, you'll easily adapt to a harmonious lifestyle. The reason the 6th level is so troublesome is because it ignores most aspects of one's perceptions. Every level of thought can be reformed into the values of any of the other ones, except the 6th. It is a bit stuck in the physical aspect of itself. (I was going to post this to the OP, but something happened, I guess. My apologies good sir.)
Before this video, I thought I was going to be at level 4 or 3, but it made me realize how much I think. When I do it, it’s fast in my head, so I didn’t think much of it, even though it bothered me. At some point, every time I was thinking, it felt like watching a movie and predicting the end-like I knew what I was going to think before actually thinking it. It was as if I was stealing someone else’s thoughts, and then it expanded to other things. For example, if I wanted to talk with someone, I would start having the conversation with the voice in my head and arrive at a conclusion. Now, every time I think, I feel fake-it’s not me; it’s the one inside me. It’s like I’ve divided myself into little (but not in a schizophrenic way) parts. And now I understand that what I saw as little parts of me were actually levels of thinking. In his drawing, each level was an eye for him and for me each eye represented what I perceived as a “little me”
and you keep going until looping back to the start and realize its just whatever you want which comes from what you are, which is existence itself and there's nothing to think about that
That’s crazy. Level 9 is really trippy and I don’t think it could be sustained for “living” and even in the example you gave at the end of your own thoughts of your drawings (which are amazing, thank you), it seemed that the awareness was processed in gaps of time and not a state of prolonged period of time.
THANK YOU for explaining this, I was literally trying to find this. Please make more and I’ll practice to get into higher levels.
Level 9 is actually really useful for peaceful interpersonal activity. The transparency that it creates of "gaps" in the emergence of conscious apprehension of reality helps you sort of... place something in front of people that makes them react, like "what the hell did you just say? why have I never thought of it that way?" and I BELIEVE (don't quote me) that this is why they call it the "ironist." Because you are "ironically" giving people the opposite of what they need to force them to solve their own problem from the inside and make them fill in that gap.
But Doctor,,, I *am* Barbarosa.
@@hoe_mathdamn, this guy ik that's like a decade older than me is like that
Death is the key to life; when one survives murder things become clear.
unban hypermiling from discor i dont know why baned , happened just now@@hoe_math
There are two parallels I noticed that are fascinating:
1) how these psychological/societal levels correspond to the explanation of the 10 physical dimensions.
2) how the ancient philosophy of Stoicism defaults at beginning the practitioner at Construct Awareness(Lvl8) and places it's goal making Lvl9 the default Lvl1 perspective, which could be said to be the goal of other philosophies/religious traditions(Buddhism for example), but it is the only such philosophical tradition I'm aware of that is fundamentally constructed to begin at such a high level of awareness instead of gradually achieving it.
Great Videos btw,
thank you for doing what you do.
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Very insightful!!
i was thinking the same with dimensions too thats crazy
oh brother how in the hell do you relate the 10 levels to the 10 dimensions lol. Like tell me one distinc thing about the "curled up" dimensions 5-10 and how they relate to anyhting on this list. the only similaritty is that there are 10 of them. It would be pretty cool if there was some fundemental connection between the structure of our universe and the structure of our consiousness but comparing two (flawed) models and then assuming some fundemental connection is non-scientific. First we would need to determine that this is a proper model of concousness for attacking the question. Also, the 6 curled up spatial dimenssions in string theory have never been measured or observed and string theory is only one group of theories that attempts to explain quantum gravuty. There are many others that don't involve extra dimensions
You're explanation of level 8 makes so much sense because I have always felt disconnected from myself. It's as if my being and my person are separated. To those that experience this too, it is a terrifying reality, but it is so powerful. Don't try to escape from that.
I cant believe just this morning I was thinking how our progress through life from babies to the elderly is like a mirror of our progress as humankind, everytime we grow, we evolve, we learn more but it also gets more and more complicated. And then this video comes to me without even searching for it. We really are the universe talking to ourselves
This is one of the most unique channels I’ve seen describing the processes of the human mind when it comes to relationship. I think that the drawings make it fun and easier to process the information. This channel will get to 1 million subscribers!
This makes a lot of sense and explains why I'm constantly wondering how other people are unable to see the "bigger picture".
I thought about my thought process throughout the video and came to the conclusion, that I shift between everyone of those levels constantly, but mostly operating from level 7.
Sometimes more primal urges come up and I find myself in the lower levels, until I realise my own stubbornness lmao
lol yeah is like you know you are going primal and suddenly decide to go up again. imo is good to be like that sometimes, if not, you won't be able to enjoy the small things. operating in high levels is draining, so those things are better applied when your activities involve other people and not only yourself.
There is always two angels of every count, what are you failing to see as well
You said something 8 there lol
Quite relatable in some ways
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I’ve found that whiskey helps with more comfortable operation at any level.
Firstly the scribbles are better for me… I just connect and understand it based on its simply… it fits perfectly with how you talk and doesn’t distract with flashy effects etc… please keep this style going
To the minds that can grasp this, you explained it amazingly.
Ive been around the world. I was in and out of college from 87 till 2012, five major changes, finally a masters in counseling. I work in community mental health. All that to say, this is PhD worthy presentation and better than most self help material available today. Thank you. I love the drawing and i am inspired. I have been writing daily since 2020 and have overcome my worry about my poor grammar. I did this process but still havent communicated why people should just do it as well as you did here.
Take it from the four-time dropout who isn’t doing research
your point about people who can get to an 8 don't stay there long. Literally gave me chills. I can think back to three very precise moments in the past year where I felt myself wiring my left and right brain together. Thank you so much for this video gave me something else to think about 🥰
Thinking at level 8 only happens to me when very tired and somewhat stressed in a quite environment. And it's exhausting. You can't really exercise this high level thinking on your feet, takes to long to deeply analyse your thoughts just to answer the question "how are you". I tend to delegate some of the process as part of a conversation or with a paper if I need to deeply analyse something.
Can't find my way out @@mishael1339
you CAN stabilize these levels
@@hoe_math by stabalise you mean that one would have control of when one accesses said level right? Because not being able to shut off the higher levels isn't good since it can get you stuck in ever increasing layers of abstraction
Hell yes. So cool to hear people talking about the phenomenological aspects of our functioning!!! This entire channel is giving me a braingasm.
The only time in my life I took a psychedelic, I was at the connect stage of consciousness. Aware of my existence, but not thinking about it. After the trip, my level of consciousness jumped to the understand level. Permananly. That was 2 years ago. I feel that I am now at the 8th level.
That day has fundamentally changed my life
I'm suffering from knowing I'm at such a low level and already 35 years old. Hope I can change enough in the next 10 years to minimize my regrets.
Low isn't bad, it's just limited. Someone can be successful, popular, moral and happy without being at a high level.
I feel like I actually recently reached the level where I'm observing my habits and sense of identity changing over time and observing how I observe and even the daily flow through the levels of consciousness. That bit at the end really resonated where you get to thinking about thinking so hard and long that you basically end up with "you gotta start somewhere so this thing might as well be good enough for now"
I reckon this is described by the tarot card The Fool, which is numbered 0 because it's both at the top and the bottom of the archetypes
This is one of the best videos I’ve ever seen on this site.
So concise, simple, and quirky yet refined.
I had to explain to my parents why I was in my room a lot.
Because of my history in watching my sibling and not wanting to be the center of attention therfore I intentionally isolated myself.
This unintentionally led to self feeling like my parents neglected me as a child. Later, I translated into me feeling called to apologize to my parents for both blaming them and spending time away from them because I didn't feel like I was apart from the family. Thanks to my religious views, I was talking to God, and he encouraged my spirit to actually sit down and have the conversation and be able to walk through each of the psychological levels of stress I was feeling. And have a good conversation with my parents! Praise God
Level 9, my favorite part was the analogy at the end about the graphics because I’ve been experiencing that a lot lately ❤
Wow I loved this entire video.
I try to spend a lot of time at level 7 or 8 thinking, I have considered it my “reactionary pause”. It’s the pause while you watch your instinctual response and then deciding what is the best action to take to stay within my character.
When I act out of anger/fear, or feel like I am acting outside of what I choose to be my best character- I often feel as if I have let myself down.
My experience with immigration to a country with better education at a young age really accelerated me into level 5 without fully developing understanding/comfort in level 2-4. I think that this forced me to start reasoning how different groups do things without understanding what I want, what I am, what I believe in. I'm not sure how else it has messed me up but I feel messed up. I feel like a very developed onion with a bunch of layers, but at the core I am empty. Being able to word this out is really helpful. Thank you for your video.
Very developed Onion is an excellent description! I've also gone through a similar up bringing and had to completely unravel the onion to properly understand and observe myself. I still haven't completely unravelled everything, as a very developed onion it takes a while to go through those layers, but as you untangle your own layers you gain a new level of Consciousness.
Huh, I feel this a lot. Couldn't have put it into words like you did, though.
I think I understand what you mean , I also needed to have that kind of awareness without having the chance to think about myself in anyway , as I grew up in a neglectful household.
So not so long-ago I experienced a time where I revisited myself and my urges , for that to happen I needed a safe space which for me was my mind.
Anyway my point is , I have also felt empty before and I always felt like i was messed up in a way, but it's not constant it goes away .
Maybe You need to go (and You Will) throught all nasty phases to fill what You haven't got
Borderline personality disorder... depending on the severity of your emotions 😂
That's the diagnosis I give myself. I even realize Im in the moment become a slightly tailored version to them, that slowly becomes more like them, that makes it hard for people to not hangout with me, or to engage with sex easy, again I realized my internal processes are so dissociative and almost out of control, it's frightening, especially splitting because I'm kinda dangerous with both Internalizing and Externalizing 😂
GREAT breakdown! Keep your artwork. It's your brand. Kudos!