Patton Oswalt Reveals What Keeps Creative People From Creating
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Patton Oswalt witnessed failure personified in his early years of standup, and since has worked to nurture the positive voices in his head rather than feeding the negative.
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Wow I love how he empathizes with negative people and where they might be coming from
odeerg riiiiight...
@odeerg - I love how you put "joking" in quotation marks, just to let us all know you're dumb enough to believe he's not joking about wanting to murder GL, even though Patton's actually one of the most literate fans of Star Wars I've ever heard talk about it and clearly loves the shit out of the movies, which wouldn't have been possible without George Lucas, so don't act like everybody lives by your crazy-hillbilly attitude. Some people are ACTUALLY joking when they say they are, and it's not motivated by genuine violent anger at another person for being too different.
this is the same patton oswald who ki.l*ed his wife and one month after her ''death'' was engaged to another women lol!!!!!
Well, he's basically doing the same thing here, himself, pointing out that someone else's version of how to do something is a recipe for failure. And in doing that he presumably thinks he's helping people watching the video. Classic survivorship bias. But maybe he's not that far off - maybe it's that you simply have to believe in yourself no matter what.
@@mansgottaeat2932 This is a lie. McNamara died in April 2016. Oswalt and Salenger got engaged in July 2017.
You can even meet people that creatively inspire you at one point and then you grow out of each other or just fundamentally disagree on a major aspect of approaching the creative process.
The self-critic vs the creator: the ultimate intricate dance.
Also the inspiration for the album name Art of Doubt by Metric, for the 2 other Metric fans who might ever see this comment.
21 other Metric fans at least. Gonna relisten now.
"The harshest criticisms come from those with no gifts of their own and who truly have no idea what you're doing, and that you are HAPPY just applying your craft.
Unless you are making the world a little more ugly, and THEN they will hold your hand and celebrate that you, like they, see how awful it is.
Any asshole can see how terrible things are. It takes no skill, no art, no imagination." -Local Color 2006
The most important distinction is that the ugliness that is an obvious part of the world and our lives can be presented artistically and made anew, or made relatable or perhaps even beautiful in some twisted way. There is not a lot of happiness in the stories of Chekov, or Barthelme, or Cheever, or Lydia Davis. What exists in these works is an ambiguity or even a quotidian banality. I think to commiserate in understanding pain or ugliness is a vital human trait.
@@patrickmchugh4616 You are correct and those authors had to fight their way through a sea of despair, criticism, and abuse to write stories that show their side of life. Nothing wrong with telling it like it is, but to just sit by and criticize, belittle and mock the art, and the artist are the weapons of ignorance and jealousy. By telling the story of living a life of despair and you are creating. Standing next to the author and calling him 'shit' for his efforts is what i have commented on.
@@blackbird5634 Totally agree
I loved Local Color- great movie.
I like to make music. I do it more then 20 years. Most of my life I tried to please the audience. Cared more what ppl wanna hear. Now Im doin what want. I dont care if Im good or ppl would like it. I like it and after years I know enjoy music again. Its fun. I guess you have to lower, or even better erase the expection of making a living with what you love to do. If it happens, it happens
I'm sure that you've turned out more music than ever before! It's such a better place than keeping up with the audience. Especially since they themselves don't even know what they want half of the time.
I've made electronic/noise/glitch music for the greater part of the last decade and have never shown it to anyone in particular because I always made it for myself. It was never about money or fame for me, it was just something it did for fun and for my own artistic outlet. If people told me what they did and didn't like, or if I suddenly made lots of money off of it, it would never change my approach or whether I would decide to continue or stop. The moment you make art for others but completely neglect your own voice or enjoyment out of it, is the very the moment you kill your art and creative spirit.
And that's the first step! The next thing to do is figure out how and why music moves you. Figure out techniques they use and see if u think those techniques work for the type of music you play. Then, you are able to please the audience with your own voice.
Because you're not only making music for yourself. You're sharing your voice with others, and you want them to enjoy it too. So never make what they want to hear, make what they didn't know they wanted to hear.
This is the best show I have watched in a long while because the interviewer and interviewee are talking to each other, sometimes about really tough things, rather than playing to an audience. Even if I do not recognise all the people talking I'm still intrigued enough by the format to watch. Fantastic.
Sam is one of the best interviewers I have ever seen if not *the* best
He and Sean Evans
But I think what's great about this is that it's more of just a conversation than an interview. They don't get these guests so they can promote something and make some profit, they do it so Sam can sit and just pick their brain for a few minutes.
@@noahmay7708 its interesting when actors are bombarded with the same interview format, even from someone as genuine and researched as sean evans, how a normal conversation w someone like sam whose actually interested in them as a person makes anyone fully open up and give real useful advice. not to take away from greats like sean or nardwuar
Patton Oswalt do more interviews like this! Talk to me! You have so much advice.
this is the same patton oswald who ki.l*ed his wife and one month after her ''death'' was engaged to another women lol!!!!!
@@mansgottaeat2932 You're an idiot, plain and simple.
I truly hope I can find a way to overcome the negative voices in my head. The struggle is real.
SolarEXtract you will, just remember to be kind and patient with yourself
@@whatsherface444 thank you
Relatable, have a nice day
Drown it out with a louder, better, more loving voice - your own.
@@sammy.knucklesI like that idea. :)
Patton Oswalt’s voice is if Ben Shapiro understood empathy.
Lol I never noticed that they sound similar
😂yes
"Our feelings don't care about your facts"
Ha!
Omg this remark is so on point 😭🤣
Yeah. Just yeah to every word he said
I prefer letting them talk to the Hollywood Reported trademarked interrupting every 6 seconds
how creative ;D
how about when he tried to dox those 16 year olds and called for violence against them because they were standing there with a smirk when some old man got in their face.... i was a fan of his before that
irony.. that's the fad in comedy right now he is talking about. its played out
this is the same patton oswald who ki.l*ed his wife and one month after her ''death'' was engaged to another women lol!!!!!
Truth. It’s hard to shut that negative voice up.
He's talking about 'RESISTANCE' mentioned in the book ' The War of ART'. A great breakdown of what it really is. This is awesome.
Great book. Really gave me the kick in the arse I needed.
One of the reasons Sam is such a great interviewer is because he actually seems interested in the people he's interviewing and if they have gone through anything that might be relatable to people watching the videos... So many interviewers are just trying to get a 10-second clip that will "go viral" and are barely even listening to what their guests have to say. Or they have this AWFUL forced "cheerfulness" that leads to the worst kind-of inane chatter for a few quick minutes where it feels like they're constantly trying to hustle them into talking faster. Sam is willing to just shut up and let his guests talk at their own pace.
Our world is not possible without Patton Oswalt.
Really good advice
give a better playing field for the positive voices - love that
I really liked & respected Patton before seeing this--Now I like him that much more. As a performer I have friends who give me advice that, while coming from a genuine place, is very unsound. The key is in discerning what's good advice and what's bad advice.. The really tricky part is knowing whether to act on the good advice, once you recognize it for what it is. Just because it's good advice doesn't mean it's useful in a particular situation!!
Yup. Literally the only thing keeping me down is my own stupid brain telling me I'm not good enough.
Exactly what I needed to hear this morning. Thanks.
Just saw him at the Beacon Theatre on West 74th Street in Manhattan, he did a very good job and good crowd work.
1. Self doubt
2. Lack of support
3. Lack of inspiration
4. Interruptions (ie life)
I needed this.
Simple yet great advice. Something to remind ourselves about every time we start to let negative thoughts leak into our brain. All of us will at some point hear from others and ourselves. I think that's why it's important to be passionate about what you do, so you can weather the storm when negativity rears its ugly head.
He's spot on about a specific person that discouraged you at some point in the past. In my case it's a couple of people, but mostly because they both feared pursuing their own creative sparks.
The book, “The War of Art” provides a great scaffold/schema for this phenomenon. Great book for creative types.
This advice works for anything at any time. Love this
Well, at least we can credit the TH-cam algorithms for bringing me here, because I truly needed to hear this words. Thank you, Pat Oswalt
Just remember, one mustn't feel compelled to identify with their thoughts.
I really needed this. Especially as a writer. Because what he said about that voice of doubt instilled in your head by others is what I had to make my brain unlearn.
Thank you
Wow! I'm gonna have to bookmark this interview. Well said, Patton! Thank you for the wise advice.
I love these interviews, they feel so heartfelt and inspiring!
heh if I was creative enough to consider myself hindered by myself, that'd be a nice spot to start in. Or maybe/probably I'm just lazy
Love Patton. Hes one of the top 5 best comedians alive today. I could listen to him for hours
Dallas Dan Digital Productions His career is dead
Nah. In my case at least (and I think this is common), what holds me back is that I'm a good enough critic myself to be aware that my work isn't very good. Sure, I'll get better by working at it, but too many people are convinced they're secretly awesome who aren't.
WalterLiddy u need to adopt some of tht ignorance of those unaware people. What helps me is thinking tht i might die tomorrow. Then i am able to break free of the self critic chains + do wht i want. Cos what if u died, it wld suck having to leave w/o testing all those good ideas or saying how u feel or trying tht thing u think abt
You've got to love the process in order to achieve something, if u get stuck on ur "lack of talent" you are not going to get anywhere, if you don't even like doing it then don't do it
I needed to hear this forty years ago
Damn Patton is quite a genius, I’ve always thought so, he understands so much of the art world in such a deeper more analytical sense.
After around 10 month of therapy or so, I can safely say that, ultimately, those people he's describing are your own parents lol
Less blaming , more productivity
Save your victimhood for therapy. No one else buys that BS
@Agent 39 Yeah, I’m with you, Agent 39. I didn’t interpret the OP’s comment as slamming his parents or failing to take responsibility. It’s just a fact that our parents don’t want to see us fail and so they often counsel us to make safe choices. And sometimes it’s our job to say, “Hey, Dad (or Mom), I know you’re concerned about me, and I hear what you’re saying, but this is something I’ve got to do, and something I’m going to do, with or without your support.” It took me too many years to realize that my job as a good son was not to have my parents approve of every choice I made. I think I was 40 before I realized, “Wait a minute, this is MY life-why am I living it as if it’s not?”
He fucking nailed it. So well communicated.
I couldn't write/sing/make what was really in me, what was uniquely and usefully me, until i stopped thinking about my dad the academic author. As long as I was hoping to please him, even unconsciously, i couldn't please myself or anyone else with my work. I think it's a common dynamic. On the other hand, there's a relationship with the reader/listener/viewer which emerges from work which transcends these constraints and connects. That relationship then becomes, potentially, in a healthy environment, a legitimate voice in the conversation about what comes next for a person making art.
Whenever Patton Oswalt speaks, I can't unhear Jesse from Minecraft Story Mode
That's great stuff. I always drop everything when I realize something or someone else has a story about a realization, because you never realize a lie, but you'll realized the truth about a lie. Realizations can often lead to, or be the core of a core truth and those are the moments that can change your life in big ways, for the good.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. This has hit the mark when I needed it the most.
I was gonna say "Laziness and distractions", but no, "disembodied voices of people you no longer interact with or care about" makes perfect sense.
He just conducted an entire orchestra of life lessons in 5 mf minutes. AND made it funny!! All while hyping me up to keep being proud of not being like everybody else. Thanks brother.
Love love love Patton so much. So so true. Do what you must!
This is the best clip on TH-cam.
(Apart from the dude with the firecracker going off in his ass)
Patton. You are valuable. I think about your journey all the time. Thanks for being you.
Teaching this for 24 years now!! You go Patton.
Anytime Patton Oswalt talks, I listen. The guy has wisdom for days about creativity, and he's right here. Just don't listen to everybody that says something about things not working because not everybody knows what they're talking about. Be stubborn and move forward.
I've been enjoying Patton's comedy for a few years, but he's kinda becoming one of my favorite people recently
I love that tie, too.
I fucking love you Patton.
This made me cry.
This is one hundred percent true. Writers are hell on themselves like this. More people I know quit because of this.
Too true. I can only feel sorry for the people who try to tell me i can't do things, because they themselves had someone who told them they couldn't and they believed it and now they feel they are doing you a solid by crushing your dreams because they feel the person who crushed theirs did them a favor.
Thanks Patton, you've really put this topic into perspective.
I did not know just how much I needed to hear this.
Such a great interviewer
My inner voice typically doesn't think the premise is bad; it just points out that I'm not skilled enough to really make the premise work.
So true! Whatever bad things you think about yourself like: I'm stupid, I am a loser, I can't do anything right, I'm always broke etc these are not your thoughts and opinions, these are opinions of other people that you took over when we were defeated or down, as Patton says you can track it down to a specific person! So we need to stop torturing ourselves with this opinions and limitations that are not even ours and do whatever the fuck we wanna do!
What an epic message
As someone who’s working on a comic script, this is very helpful.
I didnt know if y'all knew this, but it is MANDATORY to cross your legs on this show.
people subconsciously copy body language, sam basically infects guests
So true. You got to listen to yourself because that's what matters.
1:47 that voice that doesn't want things to be possible
Patton is a legend.
For the failures, these videos provide excellent cold comfort. Oh, yeah finding your audience really helps but I know there is a gauntlet of the people who sign the checks, and ultimately if you have anything at all they have to be your audience and they are not going to let you use their facilities for nothing, it just makes sense. You are at their mercy because they control the where the audiences gather.
It's true that many people don't make it because they're just not good enough. It's ALSO true that every true innovator was told by numerous people that he was "doing it wrong."
And then he finds that one important person who GETS IT.
Tarantino will tell you. He's talked about how he couldn't even get past the readers, the people who look at scripts before the executives do. "Nobody wants this much dialogue...there's too much cursing...it jumps all over the place", etc.
Salinger met with tons of resistance trying to find a home for The Catcher In The Rye. "Nobody likes books about preppies"..."Is Holden supposed to be crazy?" and on and on.
Warhol was straight-up laughed at.
Then they all found that one gatekeeper who got it. Tarantino said that once the actual DECISION-makers started reading his stuff, it wasn't that difficult. Like Oswalt said, it's often those lower-level gatekeepers, pretty much zeroes themselves, who are doing the blocking, like that club owner's husband.
@@advancedraymondology2914 Sure, you want to do your absolute best. Ultimately it's the audience who pays for the art. Finding your audience through these large entertainment companies is seen as the challenge just because they can serve a very large market.
I have watched three of the videos on this channel and after this one, let's just say it was an easy decision to subscribe
How do I make it so that this one video comes up in my feed when I’m feeling down?
1:38 get ready for a momentary splice of a sudden Nabokov novel character
I needed to hear this today.
Patton, thank You.
Thumbs up to Patton Oswalt much enlightment 👏
The second part of this clip dispels the first part. He says no one but yourself holds you back. Then tells a Club Owner story where if the comic doesn’t listen, he won’t get booked there....or Held back. The truth is, everyone is trying to hold you back.
Meditation helps with the voices. It helps to quiet them.
There should be a whole other video of Patton negatively pitch successful boxoffice hit films. That was hilarious.
1:48. Kinda sounding like Jonathan Banks there.
😂"Shut the fuck up, and let me die in peace."
I'm really frustrated. did he talk to that kid afterwards and save him from failure? it just cut off in the middle of his story
possibly...but it may have just been for his (Patton's) own benefit to be aware of how that was 'bad advice' given to another , and that he could recognize the need to ignore that type of criticism going forward
Usually a comedian in not one to do that, they note it and tell it on stage later. The one hope is that the kid hopefully realized that guy was a shit head and knew not to take it to hear.
Which keonig did this guy play on agents of shield?
I have the negative voices once in awhile, but I have more of a motivation problem. I'm so worn out from the daily work life that I don't feel like I can put any effort into anything else. It sucks. Like someone else said, tunnel vision is really the only way to get things done. My husband is able to do that for the most part, and that's why he gets so much done in 1 day.
The best one is "Guitar groups are on their way out" Spoken by a record company exec when offered The Beatles.
This clip is the antidote to Patton's bit about getting a job at a gas station and filling up your truck for free.
I kept expecting Patton to mention DEATH BED: THE BED THAT EATS PEOPLE.
4:10 I have my own show on broadcast talk radio (and podcast, etc...of course). This is called "pandering" and any nationally syndicated successful political talk show you listen to follows this model to the exact "T". Telling your audience "the P1" what they want to hear is strongly encouraged if you "want a chance in this business."
My "little geek show", as my ego-maniac colleagues have referred to it, was shot down no less than half a dozen times before it was finally green-lit in 2017. My "little geek show" is an island surrounded by an ocean of conservative talk radio and panders to neither side of the political spectrum, especially not the conservative "P1" audience the suits said I should "imagine myself speaking to every time I crack the mic."
I speak to what I am most passionate about and encourage my audience to "embrace their inner geek" as well. It's a formula that should not work on modern talk radio. Yet, low and behold, my little 1hr weekend "geek" show is only out rated by drive-time weekday shows that air during prime time 5 days a week.
Don't ever listen to advice telling you to "say what the audience wants to hear." Put YOURSELF out there. The only thing worse than failure through authenticity is success through dishonesty.
This is golden, Thank You!!!
The interviewer looks so much like Patton's own brother Matt
What a guy who dresses up like a bat and chases a clown? AND he's a detective too?? That's stupid!
Crazy how true this is.
Fantastic advice!
loved this
Great advice
I absolutely love this....this is great
Thanks this keeps me going!
I feel like most of the people that underestimate this dude because he looks nerdy, would get destroyed by this man horribly.
Like his wife
One of the best actors on justified
0:50 I get what he's trying to say, but the Pixar example falls flat. They started out in the 70s and already had smaller successes before hitting it big with "Toy Story".
That's not true.
The only thing worse than not having a (any) given creative ability is having one (or more) in spades and being unable to use it because of the cancer of self doubt.
I wish it didn't, but this essentially sums up my life.
100% agree.
He looks like the dad on Happy Days.
great advice.