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A MUST HAVE / How to Install an Oil Catch Can - Mishimoto 2 Port Catch Can | 1995 Ford F150
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- Don’t let blow by oil gunk up your engine. Install an oil catch can to capture this blow by and keep it from clogging your throttle body, intake plenum, and ultimately fouling your pistons. You can install an oil catch can on any type of car. They are typically installed in the PCV (positive crank case vent) or CCV (crank case vent) systems. New and old cars can benefit from oil catch cans, especially forced induction engines I.e. turbo and superchargers. So save your engines performance and efficiency and install an oil catch can.
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Link below for the oil catch can and hose:👇
www.mishimoto.com/compact-baf...
www.mishimoto.com/universal-c...
This 1995 Ford F150 needs an oil catch can because the 5.0L/302 blows oil through the CCV hose that connects to the Y collector at the intake. This oil has been fouling up the throttle body ports, the throttle plates, and the IAC valve (Idle Air Control). This oil can also foul the EGR too. Installing an oil catch can between the valve cover and the Y collector eliminates this oil.
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Dude, just found this playlist and am in the process of restoring my 95 bronco, we're about to become friends!
Very cool! 95 Bronco is a good year!🤙 Hey, I'm down with being friends! If you have any questions feel free to hit me up in the comment section.
@@TheMinuteMasters Was thinking the same thing, just dropped off the suspension system for it and should get it back next week at which point I'll take a video and run through where it is at since the restoration has been done and what goals I am looking to reach with it. Would appreciate your input on it of course and can bounce back different ideas!
@@danethegeographer Sounds good Dane! 🤙 Keep me posted.
Do you have to re-route the pcv system off the other valve cover too and plug the manifold?
After watching this video and others, I opted to route both valve cover vents (actually added a second $2 PCV inline on the valve cover with no PCV) into a brass T fitting then routed them to the Catch Can Inlet. Catch Can Outlet routed to the original PVC fitting on the Plenum. The interesting thing I found was the catch can was catching fuel, it oil. The catch can install helped me diagnose a stuck open fuel injector… replaced all injectors and while the Plenum was off I removed the original vacuum hoses with new silicone hoses and re-routed them away from the engine. The amount of vacuum the truck is now pulling is crazy!
Nice! That’s great to hear! It’s amazing what refreshing all those parts does for your engine!🤙
Hey Man. You should do a video on the steel interior door handle swap. I think you can buy them new, at parts stores. But they can also be found in chrome on early 80’s trucks. Fixes broken plastic handles forever. And they have a better feel too. Great videos.
Hey Casey! Actually I have a video on how to swap the metal handle. I put it in the same video as replacing the inner door handle mechanism.
I just bought a 95' F150 I am hoping this helps me with my oil consumption issue, awesome video.
Good reminder - this is a job I have to do on mine. Planned to do that after watching your full video on the subject but not got to it yet. 👍🏻
It’s pretty straightforward. I had fun filming this mod.
I was getting ready to install my catch can and thought I would look online and luckily I found this vid. I was wondering about just going off the PCV line until i saw this. It makes real good sense since I spent many hours cleaning the throttle body and the intake plenum. There was so much gunk in those two parts it only makes sense to put it as you showed. I also will make a T and add in the PCV line to it as well just to help keep things cleaner. Thanks for the help
Good idea! I think a lot of people think they should go on the PCV valve which makes sense. However, on these trucks, all of the oil and gunk is coming from the CCV.
You’re welcome!🤙
This is what I was thinking about doing. Making a t connection both into the same catch can. Been watching all of Minute Master's videos lately. Got a clean 95 f150 for cheap. Doing maintenance on her.
Well done and made it easy for me to do, good looking bronco, fixing mine up and this is needed for the off-roading I do.
Thanks man!🤙
Wow, great info, definitely doing that to mine, all 3.
Thanks Bobby!🤙 It’s definitely worth having one these trucks. All 3? Nice!
@@TheMinuteMasters Yea, I just got the Black 92 Bronco painted, got a 94 Flareside 4x4 Flareside and a 95 SWB 2wd.
Good stuff! My 95 isnt mass air flow, so that whole pcv system is a tad different. It's just one long awkward plastic pipe that goes from the oil inlet on the valve cover to a filter in the bottom of the air box. So if I wanted to do this, I'd have to plan my next moves wisely. I have, however, heard of a few forums revolved around relocating the pcv system.
I've considered getting a 96 air box and tube and putting it on. The double tubes aggravate me, if I'm honest.
Thanks man!🤙 Oh I pulled One of those junkyard things in my truck I was wondering what the filter was in the bottom.
Yeah, I never liked the door double and intakes either. I would definitely convert it over to a single tube.
Not really. The pcv stays doesn't appear to messed with, with this upgrade. I have a 5.8 94 Bronco, non maf(for now). I have the same setup you do. Just take the hose from the airbox to the catch can, then an additional hose to the nipple that is on the valve cover where the old ose from the air box went.... I think that made sense? If I am incorrect, my apologies.
Do a video of a full engine detail! Mine looks way dirtier though. Cool vids man!
Unfortunately, my apartment does not have a hose spigot.🤦♂️ I have to take my truck to a car wash to get it clean. Eventually, I’ll get to detailing it.😎
Anyway, thanks man!🤙
"Awesome packaging!" Son, you need to clean up all the drool stains on your shirt. ;)
Hahaha! I have plenty of baby burp clothes for that now.😂
You should do an update video in a few weeks!
If you’re wondering if the catch can will work, it definitely will. The previous catch can I had would fill up.
Looks like the throttle cable cable going to the gas pedal could wear a hole into the catch can hose or the catch can hose could the throttle cable to become disconnected from the gas
pedal. But anyway great video stevie.😎👍❤
Hey Terry! Yeah the cable does run over it but the cable is sleeved. So it should wear the hose.
I think your the only guy I've seen fight with the flat head and have the 12 in 1 driver in your freaking Hands.
@theminutemasters, love your videos and definitely glad I found your channel I have a 93 f150 5.0l, I want to do the catch can install planning on getting a 3 port catch can and like you said from your catch can video onefrom the pcv and one from the valve cover side but my question to you is the outlet side would you feed it back Into the intake side (throttle body side) or at the back of the plenum??
Thanks Edgar!🤙 I appreciate it! Very nice!
Good question! I would try to run the hoses back to their original input location. Now, you probably can run everything into the intake tube and be fine. However, two different catch cans is how you makes sure both vent hose go to their original ports without mixing air.
Thanks for the reply! Probably be better that way… I went ahead and ordered another catch can. My truck not running right now so not in a rush to get it installed yet. Thanks
I just got mine dor my 92 ford jeje
Hell yeah!
Steve, love your videos, thanks. I just bought a ‘97 F250 5.8. I have a hose coming from the oil but instead of going to the air intake it goes to my air filter box. I’m thinking this is a good setup since it will filter before gunning up the manifold. I don’t see it making the air filter dirty either but that is what would get it. Question through,... which way is the air pressure?... is air blowing into the oil?
Thanks man!🤙 I appreciate it!
That’s interesting. I think that’s a better design for sure.
To my knowledge the intake sucks the air out of the crank case. The air doesn’t go into the oil.
i also have a 97 f250 5.8 and its the same way. Did you end up installing a catch can? If so, how did you do it? Exactly how he did?
@@seth_owens I did not add one.
Put a FleetGaurd Impactor on your engine, it separates the oil from the crank vapor, and sends it back to your engine.
That’s cool! I’ll have to look that up.
To restrictive will blow oil seals stock pcv is 1.5 millibars that catch can is 6.0 millibars that bronze micron increasing crankcase pressure the best catch can is provent 150 has 1.55 millibars almost same millibars as a stock pcv system
Interesting analysis. I’ve never had someone explain the oil catch can in terms of its proper sizing. It makes sense. I wonder why no one talks about it.
Thanks bro, going to look into this.
@@gregory9740 No problem man!🤙 It’s worth it.
That is correct.
I saw that they have a finger cover that is magnetic to help hold onto bolts ,screws and nuts. Great idea
They sure do! They even have magnetic wrist holders.🤙
I told him that as well as use ATF in it. He is young and comes to me for some advise. Sometimes I do not know.
@@j.r.thompson5950 And used the correct ATF. I know Ford specs Mercon V for some of the later transmissions.
you put it in the wrong hose! that hose is supply for air into the crankcase and then the pcv pulls it through and out the opposite corner so if your puking oil out there (where theres almost no vacuum) either your pcv valve is bad or youve got a pile of blowby and im sure your sucking a lot of oil through the pcv so you should put one there too because that oil getting burned is hard on everything
I was told the same thing years ago when I install my first catch can. I thought about doing a three port catch can this time around to incorporate the PCV hose but I decided not too. My first catch can stopped the oil from getting to the throttle body. I have a new PVC valve and I still get oil. I might consider putting a second catch can for the PVC.
@@TheMinuteMasters a second one would be good if nothing else try it with that old one you have to see how much oil you get but don't run it through the same one the hose in your intake tube is clean air into the crankcase while the other is full manifold vaccum the whole time and the pcv valve regulates the flow
@@TheMinuteMasters He is correct about the wrong hose. The tube was meant to provide MAF metered air to the engine/crankcase and the pcv hose draws that air and any blow by back into the intake. I had the same issue as you until I figured out the pcv grommet in my valve cover wasn't airtight. Once I replaced it, the oil stopped getting into my intake tube and throttle body. Any leaks in the valve covers, oil pan or rear main seal can cause the same problem.
@@joelr877 This is interesting that you say this. Not long before I added this new oil catch can, I replace the PCV valve and the grommet. A week ago I checked the oil catch can and normally I should have oil in it but it doesn’t. So the new PCV valve and grommet must have fixed my issue too.🤙
Incorrect routing, that's the suction side, it's drawing cleaned air from the intake tube intake the driver's side valve cover. This would need to be mounted one the line coming from the passenger side valve cover. Where the greater vacuum occurs from within the intake, behind the throttle body.
If that’s the suction side how does the oil make it’s way back through and into true intake tube?
Hey friend, great videos. Just trying to help out with the direction of the catch can plumbing . Drivers side valve cover is pulling air into the engine, the passenger side is for extraction of air via the intake vacuum after the throttle body. Diagrams are available online. Keep the great videos coming. Would like to see you do a long-tube header dyno comparison.
Hi love your videos. I have a 1991 ford f250 7.5l. Can I use this same set up. Thanks appreciate it.
Thanks Robert!🤙 Nice! I don’t see why you can use this same set up. All you have to do is locate your PCV and CCV and plumb a catch can into the ribber hoses that connect them to the intake.
@@TheMinuteMasters thanks for the info and quick reply. Your awesome.
@@robertluzania4536 No problem Robert!🤙 Thanks! I appreciate it.
hey there, just curious if you can update the link to the catch can, looks like a useful upgrade and am trying to improve my 95 5.0 step by step. Would appreciate a link that works, since I'm not the most knowledgeable car guy, I have learned a good chunk from your videos!
Here ya go👇
www.mishimoto.com/compact-baffled-oil-catch-can-2-port.html
Great to hear Thomas!
What in the flux capacitor. Lol ill be using that line for sure
Right!😂 You’re welcome!
I’m actually surprised no one else has mentioned that line. Lol
is there a kit to let the catch can drain the collected oil back into the engine? or are you just expected to open it every so often to remove the catch oil? And i really appreciate your channel.
Most kits don’t have a provision to drain back to the engine. I have to check this every once in a while to empty it.
You’re welcome!!
@@TheMinuteMasters several of your videos helped get me up to speed way faster on my recently acquired 94 f150 4.9, particularly the suspension, which was initially somewhat baffling to me as i am used to modern sports car type or A arm.
i wonder if the threaded plug in the bottom could be adapted with a vacuum line valve or something, if you could just run it back down to to the fill port hose with a Tee fitting. That way the can fills when running but then when vacuum dies it can drain?
@@nicodemus7784 that’s great to hear man! Glad I can help!
That sounds like it could work.
a bit off topic...but what the hey...the accelerator control splash shield that covers the throttle cable, etc ....do you know what size bolt is needed to attach that to the intake?
Good question. I don’t know off hand. I think the head of it is a inch and a quarter hex bolt/screw.
How often should you check and clean it out? I noticed my air box had a small pool of oil in it.
As often as you need. Once a month or every 3000 mile oil change works for me.
Can I put a t in the hoses so both the pcv that goes into the plenum and the other that goes into the throttle body will both go into the oil catch can and another t on the other side so the clean air goes back into those spots?
So I’ve thought about this, I think you can have the CCV and the PCV because both originate from the valve cover (crankcase). However, the PCV routes into the plenum after the throttle body and the CCV before the throttle body. Not sure if that would cause an imbalance. But you can give it a shot a see what happens.
$122.00 for that puppy, Bow Wow
That’s why I got it on sale. Lol However, catch cans aren’t cheap though. I priced out a bunch on Amazon and the average prices was like $65+ for anything that seemed decent.
Does the air have to go back into the intake? Why couldn't you put a breather cap filter looking thing on and be done with it? Asking because I cleaned out my cap when I changed my oil before i realized that the "gunk" was supposed to be a filter. can't find the cap anywhere now. Thoughts?
I think you could put a crank case breather filter on the tube coming off the side of the oil filler cap. I don’t know if that will cause any issues but I know they did it on older model engines. Piping it back in the intake is mostly an emissions thing. But you will need to cap off the opening on the intake tube.
So do you need an oil filler cap or do you need something to cap off the CCV hose outlet on the side of the oil filler neck?
@@TheMinuteMasters Man, you always come through with the replies! I found an aftermarket filler cap with a hole on top. Got a new pcv elbow, grommets, and some hose. Also found a cheap oil catch can kit with the brass filter. Doing her right. Can't thank you enough for your content. Keeps my 86 on the road!!
@@crocsonletsgo9665 I’m always happy to help Matt! 🤙 I’m glad you found everything you need. Nice! I love those bullnose trucks! You are most welcome!
When would you drain the oil in the catch can? How do you know when its full? Do you put any stainless steel wool in there for the vapor droplets to collect on?
A good rule of thumb is to check it with each oil change or every other oil change.
No SS wool in mind. Not a bad suggestion.
@@TheMinuteMasters Thanks for the reply and thanks for the vids on this year of truck. Not to many people posting vids out there on these 92 to 96's. There's a few improvements I'll be doing after watching your vids. Your vids give a good overview of installing these improvements. Not too much side talk in your vids which is very good, not like this one guy who rambles-on off the video topic for 45 minutes...and with yours they're just enough straight to the point with no camera fumbling. Some videos even letting us know if its good to install. Like the spacer and cold air intake vids. Thanks for posting these videos! Very helpful. I'll be subscribing.
I'm wondering if this can be mounted somewhere lower, not over the distributor?
I’m sure you can find other locations. I wanted a spot that was the shortest distance between the CCV and the intake tube.
Does that keep the inside of the intake clean from trace amounts of oil that circulates through the pcv system? I while back i redid the fuel system. I replaced the fuel pump, fuel filter and all of the injectors and the fuel pressure regulator. I had to take the upper intake manifold off and it was oily and nasty inside so I had the clean it out.
Yes without a doubt this did keep the trace amounts of oil out of my throttle body and intake Plenum. Mine used to be gross before I installed an oil catch can.
Not only that but any oil that gets put into your intake manifold and gets sucked into your engines cylinders. If it's a lot of oil and doesn't get completely burned off, it turns into carbon deposits and can bond to your valves or pistons. Enough of that carbon and it may raise your compression ratio and make your engine run leaner which obviously is no bueno.
@@layzorbeeemz7317 Very good points!👆
Hey Stevie, would you be able to provide an Amazon link or an updated link to the Mishimoto site for the specific parts you used for your 95' F-150? The links in the description are coming up as "404 Error" pages on the Mishimoto site.
Also, would the parts you used also fit a 1990 F-150?
Thanks!
Hey man!
I think the only thing I ordered was the catch can👇
www.mishimoto.com/compact-baffled-oil-catch-can-2-port.html
@@TheMinuteMasters Thanks!
Did the exact same one. I get a burning oil smell in the cab now. Any ideas?
Nice!
So I don’t have that smell but I did get a burnt/exhaust smell when my EGR tube cracked.
Have you done the Saginaw power steering pump mod yet?
Not yet and it’s on my list. I hate the power steering whine.
@@TheMinuteMasters Yeah the dang whine gave me an eye twitch. If you have trouble finding a good unit I don't mind picking one from the junkyard and shipping to you. Florida stuff is usually pretty clean with minimal corrosion. Bracket, pump w/pulley, belt tensioner and high pressure hose all together go for about 60 bucks at my local yard.
@@alphaclean3364 Yeah the sound is even worse when you are in a drive through getting food. Lol
Thanks for the offer! I was actually thinking of just buying everything new at least as far as hoses and pumps are concerned that way I know the condition of them. However getting a bracket would be nice.
@@TheMinuteMasters If you want to PM me on instagram my handle is carpentry_cyborg. I'll see if I can find a bracket for you next time I go picking
@@alphaclean3364 Sounds good man!🤙
How often should you check and empty the catch can?
It’s up to you. You can check it every time you check your oil level. You can also check it with every oil change. Personally, I check every other time I check my oil level.
Since you've done this install awhile ago, would you do it differently now? Just bought my can, using you as a guinea pig...lol
Good question. I’ve installed two different oil catch cans on this truck. This is by far my preferred setup. It’s close to everything that it connects too. It would have been nice to fabricate a place to mount it on the engine other than using those two self tapping screws.
No offense intended but self tapping screws drill their own hole, and a punch is enough to ensure accuracy most self tapping screws are sharper than most any drillbit, and I have used them as drillbit with built in threads then use a shorter screw and the one's for steel framing have fine threads, edit check out TEK fasteners
None taken Edward. I typically don’t pre-drill with self tapping screws but I didn’t want to risk an slippage or just dropping screws on top of the engine.
You should redo this video and hook up your catch can to the pcv hose instead of the intake hose. I'm certainly interested in this mod because I burn a lot of oil whenever I do extended freeway driving. I have a 351 w/ 300k miles on the original rings, so I certainly have some blow by hehe.
So I add this catch can to the CCV side because I was getting oil in my intake. Ever since I replaced that PCV valve I haven’t had any oil. I may have to switch the setup to the PCV side now. Damn! That’s some mileage! My truck had only 239k on the original rings.
@@TheMinuteMasters I wouldn't switch it to the pcv side. You installed it correctly. The port in the oil filler is where it belongs. How much oil
is being collected instead of craping-up your intake?
@@mark98070 This is true. It’s been a few weeks since I checked. So, I’ll have to see.
I have 306,000 on my 351. I installed it in from the PVC side to the plenum. I was getting a crap ton of blowby in #8 (Where originally dumped behind the plenum. After one month, I drained about 1/3 volume of oil from the can. The rig definitely runs smoother and is getting better mileage, not burning all that oil and plugs saying clean. I should have done this years ago.
How often do you end up emptying it?
Good question. Since installing it this spring, I’ve “cleaned” it out once. Yesterday actually. It was probably a 1/16th deep amount. This catch can is bigger than my previous one. So I don’t have to empty it as often.
is the pcv on that valve cover too?
There is only a PCV valve on the passenger side valve cover.
@@TheMinuteMasters ah thats what I thought I might have a bad pcv as I bought it new last year and my breather is leaking and I'm carburated so I know its a bit different thanks for the clarification still trying to figure this out it is an old engine too tho
@@blacksunshine6026 Even if you aren’t sure, PCV valves are cheap enough they are worth replacing as just a tune up item. No problem man!🤙
Will this work for a ‘96 4.9l?
I don’t see why not.
My pcv just runs out into the bay. Connects to nothing 😂 I need one if these
Hahaha! You definitely want to hook that back up.
@@TheMinuteMasters it never had one! 😂
@@EKKoSYKESMusic Hahaha! I feel like when anybody buys and OBS forward there’s always some thing missing from the previous owner.
@@TheMinuteMasters you could say that again. Like where’s my ac and Heater core ?!
@@EKKoSYKESMusic Man! The previous owner of your truck must have gone to town getting your truck of stuff you need. Lol
Does this oil catch replace the pvc breather?
because it's already filtered through the oil catch
mine is a 94 i6 4.9
You’ll still want your PCV valve. That keeps the bulk of the blow by out of your intake. The can’t van takes things up a notch.
Thanks again!@@TheMinuteMasters
@@deanmicheljunioralexis2817 No problem man!🤙 Thanks for watching!
I have a Facebook friend that has a 1993 f350 manual he thinks has water in the transmission. I am not familiar with that new of truck I can not give him advice on the truck. Maybe you could. he is a younger truck owner
Water in the transmission could cause overheating and gear(clutches) slipping. I’d drain the transmission fluid out and put new fluid it.
Also, mention my channel too him.🤙
$137 bucks on sale for the can not including hoses. Ouch!
Damn that’s gone up! It was just under $100 when I filmed this video.😳
now i know all car engineers like all of them all stooped like MB, PORSCHE,AUDI,CRYSLER EVEN ROLLS ROYS NO ONE FIGURE THAT THEY NEED INSTALL SIMPLE OIL CATCH CANS LOL OMG!!!
Their idea was for any excess oil (blow -by) to be routed to the intake and be burned up. Problem is, over time this fouls everything including engine cylinders. Fouled # 8 and #2 on the 5.8L are the primary cause for premature engine failure. Ford has been aware of this for many a year, and had service updates for it back in the 90's. These engines are bullet proof and if properly maintained, should last a lifetime. I've got 30 years and 305k on mine. Original owner.
I just clean my engine bay every time a wash my car. But cool video
That’s a good rule of thumb. You’re engine bay and components will still look amazing after 10 years.
What the Hell...this catch can is how much....and I scroll down -in comments- to find someone making perfect sense....sounds like to me have traded a couple hundred dollars for a clean intake tube, a fancy carch can, and a oil spot under Ur vehicle.
That could be right. I haven’t found any evidence or theories to confirm the statements made in that comment though.
I still cant get my 92 running lol
What have you narrowed your search too? You were chasing down one of the big three (air, fuel, spark) right?
@@TheMinuteMasters just stalled oit one day out of nowhere. Spark is good and timing ive changed all of these. Computer, ignition coil, pickup coil, plugs, cap and rotor, Tps, Iac, fuel regulator, fuel filters and pumps, and Ect. Still nothing ive had like 5 buddys look at it too. Its a mystery
So you can physically see fuel support from the fuel injectors, you can visibly see spark at the spark plugs, and well air as long as there’s no obstruction you should be good. Have you run the codes on the truck?
@@TheMinuteMasters only code i had was for the ect which i thought made sense bc i thought maby truck thought it was way different temp outside and was running too rich. The exhaust smells like allot of fuel and the only way itll run is on ether amd you have to hold it around 4k rpms or itll just stall out
@@dale5303 That might be worth chasing down. At this point it could be a sensor or done electronic holding you back.