last night I rewatched season 2 and dear god every time he was onscreen he was insufferable lol hopefully his character growth will involve learning that traveling is not an entire personality
I didn't read the books and only found season 1 entertaining. I love Penelope for the powerful woman she is struggling in a vapid society of bullies inside and outside of her house. But I tried to read some things about the book for this season... If she begs him to kiss her and says "please" and "thank you" I'll cancel my Netflix at that exact moment!
There’s a line in the book where Penelope says Colin’s probably never been punished, and that feels like an understatement. He never experiences a moment of hardship during the book (jealousy over his wife’s hard earned accomplishments isn’t a legitimate obstacle for a book’s hero). Penelope has 12 years of unrequited love, then his side of the relationship is: “hm, surprising - I’d probably kiss her again sometime.” He always gets what he wants, when he wants it, with no real effort - someone might want to tell Julia that is not how you write a character you want people to find interesting, likable, or relatable. The show is just so much better than its source material. They have improved Colin’s character a lot (though he still has some growing up to do), Pen is still a badass, and they have a much more legit friends to lovers vibe than in the book.
It's like real life though. There are plenty of people who always get what they want, both men and women. Colin is a good person, so I'm glad he gets what he wants.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928grovelling is hot, admitting you are wrong is so hot. It shows that the partner respects you enough to say “hey, I was wrong, I need to apologise”. Grovelling is the cherry on top
@@zuan1377 Really? I find the demand that someone grovels before you feet incredibly toxic. I like being partners in a relationship. I don't know which women you asked but it was most likely not women who like healthy relationships.
You are right for Colin. I hope they completely change Eloise’s story. It enrages me, don’t recommend reading it if you like her character in the show. I want to see Colin eat his words, on his knees, groveling.
I hope that either: A) they revamp Eloise's story so it's not even recognizable compared to the book or B) Bridgerton gets cancelled before it's her turn. It's a sacrifice, but I think it's an acceptable one to not have to see the tragedy that was her fate
I agree. Regarding Eloise's story, the only part of that book I enjoyed was the beginning with the letters. My least favorite in the series. As for Colin, he really needed more humbling in the book, but for me it was a minor annoyance compared to their romance, so that book is actually one of my favorites.
Just started the video, but one of my most annoyed part of Pen's weight is the fact that her body WAS the ideal, so Quinn writing modern diet culture into an era that did not exist in this way is infuriating. Her mother going to great lengths to MAKE her look 'unattractive' by having her clothes improperly tailored isn't mentioned enough. Even in the promos for the new season we see her in the same outfits as others, but the tailoring is actually accurate to her bustline, which makes her more 'attractive.'
oh i agree! i thought about this a lot even after filming this and ultimately i'm really disappointed in how the author chose to insert modern diet culture and fatphobia when it wasn't necessary. how lovely it would've been to have a heroine that challenged our modern beauty standards, which so many people assume have always been the same!
I disagree, in my opinion in the book pen after losing a bit of weight was still heavier than most women in the town but more on the healthy curvy side In the show I think the actress is overweight
I read colin and penelope's book last year and he pissed me off so much, I kept on waiting for him to grovel and get better and there was none of that. he was such an opinionated jerk who thought he knew better. i did not like the way he treated Penelope at all and then were just expected to accept and be happy about them? she deserved so much more.
As much as The Incredible 2 was mid i will say that the relationship between Helen and Bob was the best part. He was undeniably jealous that Helen was doing all the superhero-ing, and he had to be the stay at home dad, but he never made that a problem in the marriage or for the kids. He sees Helen as a person with her own dreams and as an equal, so he over the course of the movie LEARNS how to be a better dad and husband to support Helenand not have her worry. Sure, it wasn't easy, but good god, he put in effort, Colin can't relate.
Of course he doesn't make it a problem, he loves his wife. Yes, he would rather be where she is, but he does his part to make the family unit a success like a good husband and father. No, it's not easy, that's the point, but he gets to save the day because he's a loving husband and father. Colin can learn a lot from Mr Incredible. But someone needs to tell him "no" before that growth can happen and Colin has never heard that word.
Omg THANK you. I read their book because people were so hype for them this season and I almost couldn't complete it. I was so mad. Genuinely the more I learn about and read from the books, the more I appreciate how much the show is improving them
yeah i agree! the roughest one was season 1 which followed the books the most closely. they changed season 2 a lot from the 2nd book and that improved it immensely imo!! plus the actors have been giving the characters more life and depth and i especially love nicola coughlan who plays penelope
The books ara horrid, I read them all after watching the first season and it was bad Honestly kinda impress that they managed to do a relatively good show out of that garbage
@@Walkingcalamity404 I think the writer has some strengths - the writing style is very easy to read, the meet-cutes are always super cute and/or intriguing, the familial and friend relationships are always fun. But she is just completely incapable of not writing someone in the couple abusing and/or sexually assaulting the other. And worse, framing it as cute and best and quirky at worst. Ugh. Luckily the show is mostly taking that solid base and elevating it from it's weaknesses (that awful season 1 choice aside.)
@@Walkingcalamity404 same thought. Shonda and team looked at that dumpster fire and were like, I'm gonna bippity boppity boo this shit into something of actual merit.
Same, I stopped half way thinking wait am I supposed to like him now. Such a weird way to write a love interest now I am curious to see the shows version of this.
i literally gave up at 78% because i hated colin SO MUCH, i was holding out for him to get better and it just was not happening. still excited for the show though bc i feel like they improved the book for season two a lot!
the series is way better than the books, I read the book about Anthony and Kate after the books and holy shit thank god they changed basically everything
Bridgerton men in the book are VERY problematic and infuriating. I preferred audio listening to the books instead of actually reading because they pissed me off so much. I understand they were written like 30 years ago and modern sensibilities and values changed a lot but all the men managed to piss me off at one point in all the books I read from the Bridgerton universe. Believe it or not, Colin is NOT THE WORSE. But I kinda was entertained through it because I was listening while working on a long project so, I recommend this way "reading this series"
@@catherineannechiang The book is short and not very eventful, so listening to it was easy and quick. I did in much less than 8 hours of work. I was cursing at him at some points but it was quite "unpainful". BUT I CAN'T SAY THE SAME FOR PHILIP CRANE. This man pissed me off SO MUCH!! I almost gave up on the Eloise book so many times. I ended it just because I'm stubborn. Book-Eloise deserved MUCH better than what she ended up with.
@@catherineannechiang😢 I quite like the book Eloise although she makes very questionable decisions throughout her book, in my opinion, I felt very sorry for her. Philip Crane, to me, is the worst of all the Bridgerton men. I was incredibly frustrated with him from beginning to end of the book. I swear I shouted at my computer so many times, that my mom was at the door checking if I was ok- like "Are you ok. Who are you fighting with?"😅 I could NEVER actually read this book, I would be in a bad mood for a week.😂
Personally, I want to see lady Danbury and Penelope‘s relationship in the show. I hope we get that. In terms of Pen and Colin, the whole exchange about pen money would be very cute to see as well as their first meeting. But I am bummed that we probably won’t get the Reveal ball scene that we did in the book, since they basically already used it for Kate and Anthony.
The phrase “you can do anything, you’re a man” is exactly what Eloise said to Benedict in the scene of the second season when she’s smoking a cigarette and he shares one with her. I think bits and pieces of the different books are mixed into different places and from different characters to make the translation to screen easier for different characters. I usually like book series better than tv series because they are usually more detailed. However, I think in this case, Shonda rhymes has made an exquisite choice for the series. The music, the lighting, the beautiful atmosphere and the great acting has made the series my favorite. She makes me want to be in her world. She has truly made it a work of art. Even my brother has gotten into the show. (And that’s saying a lot as I wouldn’t usually see guys liking period dramas.) she has amazing talent and taste.
Having watched the 2nd part of the 3rd season, Penelope addresses this with Colin as well, in an even more direct way, telling him that he at least has choices not like women whose only choice is to hide the parts of themselves the society won't accept.
The book bridgerton men in general suckkk. Except maybe Michael. They're the same flavour of rich, white, hot men with trauma and also their own kind of misogynistic issues.
Fran and Michael had the best relationship bc they had mutual respect/love for each other and Fran was a widow so not inexperienced on love/marriage/ sex like the other female characters
And somehow Phillip Crane manages to take Brigerton problematic to a whole new low. Francesca’s and Hyacinths books were the only redeeming storyline’s in the whole series in my opinion. I am so grateful the show is able to build on them to make something infinitely better
I didn't enjoy Book Colin at all as well. I know Shonda will deal with him for me though. The jealousy was the most annoying part. Ugh 13:00 she begged him not to open that letter, he annoyed me so much
Colin outing Penelope as LWD at the end to the entire ton, without her knowledge, still infuriates me. Also, the fact that Pen never told her _best friend_ she was LWD, for like 11 years of publishing the gossip rag, really confused me. (And JQ conveniently not having Eloise not be there for the big reveal-their friendship became an afterthought.) Gah, I felt like the book started off well and had some cute silly moments, but when Colin went alpha male it lost me.
when I worked at a book store i read if in one day while no costumers came. and i actually thought i would get something more sustainable but what i got was a 5 doller bodice ripper from the grocerie store. I think reason why they Picked the Bridgerton Franchise to build on was because it gave them a lot of room with what to doo, since the books are so thin in plot and have nearly no side story. also they are all verry formulaic, so i am glad the show is doing its own thing
Hi, I think the season was awful. Not because of the kiss, they made it in a different way with her leaving him with no reaction. But it’s poorly written, too many plot lines, too many side stories, meaningless even the Queen is boring and serves no purpose at all, they have very little time together to develop a plausible change in their relationship, I shipped Francesca more than them. Colin looks like a stalker, that’s all he does, we don’t see good conversations between them, the balloon scene is ridiculous, his diary is absurd and the way he cuts his hand is not believable, that whole interaction is rushed and poorly executed. Suddenly Pen doesn’t have a brain she only has asthma. I liked Lord Debling but it wasn’t supposed to be needed so Colin thinks he might lose her or be jealous, he should’ve liked her for her with more screen time and her evolution as woman without treating him like he’s the last coke in the desert, he never has to fight for anything and didn’t have to fight for her either… I don’t know what’s the fuss with the carriage scene because there’s no build up to that so it felt fake, his “declaration” was awful “what if I did have feelings for you”? What am I, 12?? I hope part 2 is better but they already ruined part 1. I saw people asking for a spin-off and I’m all for it, do their season again with good writers! Penelope’s character deserves that much. And Eloise remains insufferable, also don’t care for Cressida’s storyline I don’t need to know her hardships so she can fake being LW 🙄 she is a bully and will always be and that’s why she is single not because of her parents. Anyway… the writing is awful, I don’t know what happened… I think people will be happy with them hooking up and taking their clothes off and that’s all but there are better series to watch for that reason.
he made me mad in the show so i turned to the books. that was the biggest mistake i could have made. please shonda make him not terrible. he doesn't even have to be good i'm just begging him to be less terrible
Your commentary was delightful. I started to read and then skimmed the book a few weeks ago, and you observations about Colin-the-Man Baby (although you didn't use that term) are spot on. There has certainly been a shift in regency novels during the past decade-plus with the women being more clever and less likely in need of rescue and the men having more emotional depth than lust, anger, and jealousy. Thanks for this!
thank you! I've struggled reading regency romance in the past because of the baked-in patriarchy and gender roles but I agree, the genre seems to be expanding and thriving with strong heroines and more vulnerable heroes :')
I’m excited for s3, but I’m REALLY hoping they don’t take lady whistledown away. Penelope running around and being sneaky was one of my favorite bits in s2 and I want more + whistledowm makes Bridgerton as a show stand out all the more
And in the show they made him two dimensional. I guess it's an improvement from his book counterpart, but he was so cute in previous seasons. There were signs that he did really like her, but the ball hadn't dropped yet. I wish they had leaned more into that. But no, he's that annoying person that went on a tour of several countries and now thinks he's this enlightened. They could've easily done the thing where he's surrounded by interested girls and Pen walks by and he ditches the girls for the safety of Pen's company and that's how the ball finally drops. They also made him this guy who pays for sex and that's not book Colin or previous seasons Colin. That's his brothers; that's what Anthony and Benedict do. Anthony more, Benedict is more adventurous with his romances (quite the deviation from the book, but I'm here for it). Sweet, innocent Colin was perfect for the friends to lovers, but they changed him and now he's annoying self obsessed Colin. I dislike Colin in this season more than Anthony from season one.
Sweet innocent Colin not paying for sex? Girl, what were you reading? The book made it quite clear that he was sexually experienced and it was not with nice girls. In the book, he literally tells her that he would never act that way WITH A WOMAN OF HER BACKGROUND and not propose marriage. Colin sure as hell was not virginal and innocent in any way considering the fact that he knew his way around the female body and his thoughts about how she was obviously still a virgin. I don't want to be graphic, but his observations were of a man who had had a lot of sex before her.
I fully agree ! This was my least favorite book because of how mush physical abuse Julia Quinn inflicted on Penelope. I especially hated how he bruised her arm during the engagement ball and the time he yanked her out the carriage so hard she falls flat on her face on the sidewalk ?! In Eloise’s book, the author creates a scenario where Eloise ends up with a black eye. It’s almost as if Julia hates her own characters. I really hope the show does better !
Colin and Penelope has been my fave characters since S01. And when i found out that they have their own book and they end up together, of course i needed to read it. Ohhh... boyyy.... I think this is the first time in my readers/watchers life when i'm so happy that show made changes in book character and plot. Jesus, book Colin was such a red flag. His anger issues were handled so poorly and glossed over by author like it's all okay. Thank god show Colin is better. At least until now (who knows what will happen in last 4 eps). I don't see why show Colin needs to grovel(i've seen people demanding that show Collin grovel). He did not do anything. He did not know that Penelope has feelings for him. Why would he grovel about things he did not even knew? And then he said a bad comment that hurt Penelope's feelings but he apologized to her when she told him that she heard that and it was hurtful to her. He does not need to grovel about 1 comment. I mean - Anthony was basically marrying another woman and did not have the balls to call it off sooner. He used her knowing he liked her sister. That's something you grovel about. Not one bad comment. So i don't get the hate show Colin gets. Book Colin - that dislike i get. He was pretty problematic.
I hated Colin in the book. I mean in show, he is more ridiculous in the end and I don't think he is really begging at all because in trailer her doesn't really beg. He did seemed to be embarrassed of her. But, if there is a chance of redemption, I want him to be opposite of book Colin. Book Colin make it feels as if loving pen is such a big task to do, the way he literally questions himself and is so jealous of her. I want him to be in agony, not only because of Lord Debling but for everything. He should realise his stupid mistakes and make up for it. If he turns out to be like the book Colin, I will ship pen and debling. I hope that they don't make Pen's other suitors to be horrible people. I hope Lord Debling is amazing
Great video! I read all the books after season one of the show came out and remembered not liking Penelope and Colin's book - more specifically not liking him as a love interest for her; she absolutely deserves better I think the show generally treats Penelope better than the books so hopefully Colin will treat her with more respect and kindness. I have high hopes for this season. I prefered season one to book one, I missed some of the bonding moments between Anthony and Kate and the bond between the Sharmas in book 2 even though it was still a great show overall. If Edwina doesn't marry the prince, I'll riot because all that character assassination would have been for nothing. Anyway, I truly hope Polin's season is better than their book and have no reason to believe otherwise
Im just waiting for Gregory’s story because I feel like of all the bridgerton men he was the best. Like in literally all senses. He was a true romance hero.
I think one thing to note though was that in the book Collin does admit that he was jealous of Penelope and her success, I wouldn’t say he was always angry at her for no reason
I’m critical of book Collin and tv show Collin. I would choose Debling any day. Still, this is a Polin Season so I still look forward to seeing how Part 2 will be. Penelope deserves so much better.
I really hope for the carriage scene to be a bit different from the book. Cuz tbh for me is very akward to go from arguing to making out, though at that time when the book was out that behaviour was really common on shows but now is really toxic
I read the books and yes Colin does have his moments where you wanna smack him on the head but overall I love how he’s written, Julia Quinn is writing men how they would be in that time period. They had all the power, they had all the say so, so yes Colin does have some qualities that in today’s society is a big red flag, but in that time period that’s how it was. Romancing Mr Bridgerton is my favorite book in the series. Penelope is such an amazing complex character and the fact that she’s able to do and accomplish everything she did in that time, is just amazing and I’m absolutely looking forward to how the show will portray Colin finding out that she is lady whistledown, I also hope that they put the conversation that happens between Eloise and Penelope when she and Colin are engaged. A big part of why Eloise finally decides to be more open towards marriage is because Penelope gets engaged first. This season is going to be amazing and I cannot wait to see Colin and Penelope’s story on the big screen.
I like the book for the way the scenes were follower up. Like collin knew before eloise about whistledown. And collin and penelope going to featheringtons house first to announce their engagement. The spicy scenes were better in the book too. It wasn’t just collin falling in love with pen after one freaking kiss. In the book some things were better. The series legit changes the sequence
bro i HATED how Colin treated pen after finding out she’s LW. like i get it id be mad but he didn’t even have a good reason to be mad, he literally said he was mad because he was jealous. Thankfully i don’t think they’re making Colin as rough as he is in the books with pen which is kinda why i like show bridgerton more than book bridgerton it’s like they saw the potential in the books and turned it into something great
Colin did mention when Penelope's bonnet blew into his face he fell off his horse when they were children and that was the first time they met. I understand why they probably didn't show it as a flash back as they would have had to cast a child Colin and a child Penelope.
Couldnt agree more, i actually read the book after they aired the first half of season 3 and saw people raving about the book so i couldnt wait and started reading it (its actually the first book of the series that i read) and goddamit i was frustrated,collin was a jerk the whole book, from the kissing scene where he acted like a child and got mad because she thanked him and he understood that she saw what he did as a favor (whcih is true,his first motive was because he felt bad) and ran away like a little coward making my girl spiral bad,the church scene too,like who gives you the right to be mad because she has a life,and i also didint like that the makeout in the carriage was after he treated her awfully,like no boy you dont deserve that,his tantrum whenever she tried to discuss LWD is also infuriating,but the cherry on top was when his solution to cressida’s threat is to out penelpe WITHOUT TELLING HER,like wtfff,he was gonna reveal her identity asLWD infront of the intire ton whiout discussing it with her,i literally screamed at my book All in all there was no growth in his character,he was still this asshole who makes everything about him(literaly most of the conversation he spins around to be about him!his writing ,his feeling ,etc) I read the book because i loved show penelope,i loved her story,her being overlooked wallflower in everybody’s eyes but in fact she is this beautiful smart woman who made a business in an era where that wasn’t expected of a novle woman,but my girl deserved better There is actually one thing that i liked in the books more than the show(but mind you ive only read this book)is eloise’s character,i cant stand her in the show,because she always makes things about her and never listen(the fact that she found out that pen is LWD just because she listend to her friend ONCE is my proof)but in the book she listens ,the conversations arent one sided (granted there wasnt many and there was no fovus on them but still she topped show eloise) I rsmbled a ton because non of the people around me watches or read the books so iah to let it out 😂
LMAO! 3:12 - the text says, "The plumper people didn't have to work psychically and they had plenty to eat." Good thing those rich folks didn't have to be psychic - all those psychics must be skinny.
Unfortunately, this was the first book from the series that attempted to read. I couldn't get through it. It constantly said what a nice guy he was while he was acting like a huge bully with an ugly temper, constantly. He was also violent towards her and she still loved him. It was cringy, I didn't enjoy it or finish it. The TV series has been way better with character development. I hope they don't turn him into the creep from the books.
I had to stop reading when I got to that engagement scene. It was too triggering. That shit is NOT romantic and in real life, that would be cause for some real fkn concern.
i’ve read this book after watching the 3rd season because I wanted some fun, easy read. but colin’s behavior really surprised me. i think the way he acted was downright abusive at times, how he talked to Penelope, tried to control her and to domineer over her. not to mention grabbing her by the arms. It was really scary behavior and couldn’t see it as a romance. the show is not great, but colin is less piece of a shit and Pen has more agency
@@PRETTINGTONI'm hopeful that since his arc of confronting his privilege has been introduced from season one instead of confined to his season that the show's version of his story will be gentler. At least Benedict grows and apologizes by the end of his book 🤷🏾♀️
@@catherineannechiang im in the middle of reading it now and no its not. the benedict we know and love from the show is no where to be seen on the pages.
Tbh I think for me I didn’t like the aspect that they removed from the show about how Colin was the most favourite brother for almost everyone, especially his and Eloise’s relationship. While I agree with some of it, they have removed almost all aspects of him being a good brother and his relationships with his siblings. Also for the ‘ women can’t do anything / Penelope going somewhere alone’ I think those things were valid because it was written during that era so I didn’t mind that, I 100% agree with Colin being in love even more after finding out she is Lady Whistledown, I didn’t like his reaction, like I understood where he was coming from but I hope he really admires her after he finds out, but Colin is my farrr my favourite brother lol. Like atleast he was better than Anthony when it came to his siblings, and the whole Edwina storyline I didn’t like because’ all for honor’ he was going to marry the sister while having feelings for the other one, creeped me out. And didn’t like Simon’s trauma dump on Daphne so as far as shows go Colin is still the best for me lol he hasn’t done anything too low to go back from as far as characters go
I read all the Bridgerton books years ago and this book was my least liked, can’t really remember why. From all the comments, it seems that this year is also much less popular than Seasons 1 and 2, so Shona has not improved the story as well as we would have liked. Let’s hope Colin eventually becomes a better man!
I really like the show and so after the second season ended I wanted to read the books. In the middle of Francescas story I stopped, because I couldn't read it anymore. The men are always the same, they get really mad, do so weird shit and it gets never addressed and it's supposed to be hot of something, idk. This is the rare occasion where a show is sooooo much better than the books
I’m so glad I’m not the only one! I was disappointed with RMB. It dragged and was boring to me, not to mention, the lack of challenge and build up for Colin to win Pen over. It was too easy! He just woke up one day and realized, oooh I think I like her. Bleh, if you ask me. Insert eye roll here. However, I do appreciate the back story for them as friends though. And I feel the LW reveal to society was kind of anti climactic, sadly.
I had problems with every main man in every season (and some of the ladies), but the problems started from slight irritation in S1, to real irritation with Anthony's temper S2, and the irritation is rising steadily with the vapid, two-dimensional, annoying and strangely oversexed Colin in S3, who is apparently straight up dislikeable in the books. And S3 is not giving me nearly enough of the main couple. They still feel like side characters, for goodness sakes!!! 😕
I agree with u completely....he was an absolute toolbox. This was the most unromantic book of the series so far...havent read all of them. He was almost abusive with the grabbing and demeaning...
I hate Show Colin after watching season three, but after watching this it looks like I hate Book Colin now 😂 He doesn’t get much better. Why is he so angry. For why lol
Just read Francesca’s book and turns out after he proposed he went straight to a brothel. I DNF his book because of how insufferable he is but that just put a cherry on top of a shit sandwich. Show Collin is going to have to WORK for me to enjoy my favorite characters season (Ms. Penelope Featherington)
I have said it once and Ill say it again I really dislike the men in this series. The series in terms of rengcy romance is very boring and leaves a lot to desire that is my personal opinion.
I hated Book Colin so much, it was my first book of the series and also my second to last. He was a pathetic jealous man baby who was abusive to his wife abd then did whatever he wanted to do. As I read I desperately wanted her to find someone else, anyone else would have been a better choice. She literally looks at him and says I have no idea why I was in love with this man. Thats a relationship death knell. And the only reason she was being blackmailed was because he cared about his reputation, she did not care one bit. I just desperately wanted him to grovel and her to kick him but noooo, he saves the day with boring whatever. A man who bruises you and refuses to even talk to you should be dead at the end of a book not the savior.
I don't think it was done well in the book, but in the show, you get the greater understanding that they're both hiding who they really are, even to each other. However, Pen loved him first because she knew him better than he knew himself, could see through him. And only when Pen gains more confidence to be herself he suddenly starts to fall in love with her. Again, it's way better in the show than in the book so far. But I think that's what we're supposed to get out of their back and forth in the beginning.
I actually loved the book. I didnt like Colin as much but reading Colin in the first 3 books and reading him here he just wasnt as bad as reading it on its own. Also, Julia made these men bad and i just ignored some of the things he did. I loved that Penelope puts him in his place and the book was so funny. Its right up there with Frannies book for me.
idk i have read all the books before because i really wanted to read this one and i it made me hate him anyway xD didnt even finish the book i was so dissappointed...on the other hand im not begrudging anyone for liking these books, everybody has different tastes especially in romance
This is the best review! tbh I think the show is ridiculous and toxic, I like the underdogs and that's all, like I said in a previous comment, I only like Penelope AND... still... But what you said from the books lol well I wasn't expecting literature but the yes, the men are all the same. Season 2 was ridiculous, I didn't know how it went, I stopped seeing at a certain point..
Now that part 1 is is out, I can say that though he still needed a bit more work & maybe more exploration... show Colin is not worse than Book Colin.......... so far.
The whole season of them so far has been underwhelming at best. It’s been all bad behavior, bad proposal, bad chemistry, bad distraction in Debling who we would root for if they hadn’t made him a weirdo. Ugh and way too much audio of Pen breathing heavy. And I was so excited for them 😢
I read the book of Polin about two years ago and I hate Colin, he is kind of selfish and jealous of Penelope. He is boring in the show. The best part of Colin is Penelope love for him. While I read the book all I could think was, why isn’t Penelope the one traveling the world?
Collin is truly one of people who goes over seas and comes back thinking they now have a PhD in Worldly Wisdom
last night I rewatched season 2 and dear god every time he was onscreen he was insufferable lol hopefully his character growth will involve learning that traveling is not an entire personality
Exactly.
Gap year gone wrong
The opposite spectrum of a passport bro, but still same level when it comes to being insufferable
This is a very rare case of me liking the show more than the book series
Yes! This is what I thought too!
I second this
I have a feeling that will be the case for all the books😂
@LizzaRob160 I won't be surprised! It's been the case for me for all seasons so far. Like I absolutely love season 2 compared to the second book!
I didn't read the books and only found season 1 entertaining. I love Penelope for the powerful woman she is struggling in a vapid society of bullies inside and outside of her house. But I tried to read some things about the book for this season... If she begs him to kiss her and says "please" and "thank you" I'll cancel my Netflix at that exact moment!
There’s a line in the book where Penelope says Colin’s probably never been punished, and that feels like an understatement. He never experiences a moment of hardship during the book (jealousy over his wife’s hard earned accomplishments isn’t a legitimate obstacle for a book’s hero). Penelope has 12 years of unrequited love, then his side of the relationship is: “hm, surprising - I’d probably kiss her again sometime.” He always gets what he wants, when he wants it, with no real effort - someone might want to tell Julia that is not how you write a character you want people to find interesting, likable, or relatable. The show is just so much better than its source material. They have improved Colin’s character a lot (though he still has some growing up to do), Pen is still a badass, and they have a much more legit friends to lovers vibe than in the book.
Absolutely!
It's like real life though. There are plenty of people who always get what they want, both men and women. Colin is a good person, so I'm glad he gets what he wants.
IF HE DOESNT GROVEL WHAT IS THE POINT????
If he grovels he will not be respectable. Groveling is weak
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 groveling is hot. women like groveling
@@thelegacyofgaming2928grovelling is hot, admitting you are wrong is so hot. It shows that the partner respects you enough to say “hey, I was wrong, I need to apologise”. Grovelling is the cherry on top
Groveling is a top-tier way to a woman's heart. Admit. Apologize. Now beg 😂
@@zuan1377 Really? I find the demand that someone grovels before you feet incredibly toxic. I like being partners in a relationship. I don't know which women you asked but it was most likely not women who like healthy relationships.
Shonaland has done a good job of making all the men likable.
But not all the women 😭Whole Featherington family and Eloise
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 excuse you, Eloise is best girl
You are right for Colin. I hope they completely change Eloise’s story. It enrages me, don’t recommend reading it if you like her character in the show. I want to see Colin eat his words, on his knees, groveling.
I hope that either: A) they revamp Eloise's story so it's not even recognizable compared to the book or B) Bridgerton gets cancelled before it's her turn. It's a sacrifice, but I think it's an acceptable one to not have to see the tragedy that was her fate
@@elle8786 I concur 👍
I agree. Regarding Eloise's story, the only part of that book I enjoyed was the beginning with the letters. My least favorite in the series. As for Colin, he really needed more humbling in the book, but for me it was a minor annoyance compared to their romance, so that book is actually one of my favorites.
No, I totally agree. I liked that Eloise didn’t get mad at Pen, but everything else about her love story was ick.
@@aprilm9379 why? tell me, i didn't read the books
Just started the video, but one of my most annoyed part of Pen's weight is the fact that her body WAS the ideal, so Quinn writing modern diet culture into an era that did not exist in this way is infuriating. Her mother going to great lengths to MAKE her look 'unattractive' by having her clothes improperly tailored isn't mentioned enough. Even in the promos for the new season we see her in the same outfits as others, but the tailoring is actually accurate to her bustline, which makes her more 'attractive.'
oh i agree! i thought about this a lot even after filming this and ultimately i'm really disappointed in how the author chose to insert modern diet culture and fatphobia when it wasn't necessary. how lovely it would've been to have a heroine that challenged our modern beauty standards, which so many people assume have always been the same!
That's just one of many problematic themes in the books. Sometimes, I really wonder what she was thinking when writing.
I disagree, in my opinion in the book pen after losing a bit of weight was still heavier than most women in the town but more on the healthy curvy side
In the show I think the actress is overweight
@@AlexandraM689 Nicola Coughlan is literally a size 10 UK and US6...she is nowhere near overweight. . .
@@discendosLITERALLYYY my god just cause someone isn’t stick thin skinny doesn’t mean they’re overweight or unhealthy
😂 “Colin being an insecure man writer…” made me 💀 That pretty much sums up Colin.
I read colin and penelope's book last year and he pissed me off so much, I kept on waiting for him to grovel and get better and there was none of that. he was such an opinionated jerk who thought he knew better. i did not like the way he treated Penelope at all and then were just expected to accept and be happy about them? she deserved so much more.
As much as The Incredible 2 was mid i will say that the relationship between Helen and Bob was the best part. He was undeniably jealous that Helen was doing all the superhero-ing, and he had to be the stay at home dad, but he never made that a problem in the marriage or for the kids. He sees Helen as a person with her own dreams and as an equal, so he over the course of the movie LEARNS how to be a better dad and husband to support Helenand not have her worry. Sure, it wasn't easy, but good god, he put in effort, Colin can't relate.
Of course he doesn't make it a problem, he loves his wife. Yes, he would rather be where she is, but he does his part to make the family unit a success like a good husband and father. No, it's not easy, that's the point, but he gets to save the day because he's a loving husband and father. Colin can learn a lot from Mr Incredible. But someone needs to tell him "no" before that growth can happen and Colin has never heard that word.
Omg THANK you. I read their book because people were so hype for them this season and I almost couldn't complete it. I was so mad.
Genuinely the more I learn about and read from the books, the more I appreciate how much the show is improving them
yeah i agree! the roughest one was season 1 which followed the books the most closely. they changed season 2 a lot from the 2nd book and that improved it immensely imo!! plus the actors have been giving the characters more life and depth and i especially love nicola coughlan who plays penelope
The books ara horrid, I read them all after watching the first season and it was bad
Honestly kinda impress that they managed to do a relatively good show out of that garbage
@@Walkingcalamity404 I think the writer has some strengths - the writing style is very easy to read, the meet-cutes are always super cute and/or intriguing, the familial and friend relationships are always fun. But she is just completely incapable of not writing someone in the couple abusing and/or sexually assaulting the other. And worse, framing it as cute and best and quirky at worst. Ugh.
Luckily the show is mostly taking that solid base and elevating it from it's weaknesses (that awful season 1 choice aside.)
@@Walkingcalamity404 same thought. Shonda and team looked at that dumpster fire and were like, I'm gonna bippity boppity boo this shit into something of actual merit.
Same, I stopped half way thinking wait am I supposed to like him now. Such a weird way to write a love interest now I am curious to see the shows version of this.
i literally gave up at 78% because i hated colin SO MUCH, i was holding out for him to get better and it just was not happening. still excited for the show though bc i feel like they improved the book for season two a lot!
yeah i thought maybe he would at least grovel a ton once he realized he sucked? but...no. i just know shonda will make this better tho
the series is way better than the books, I read the book about Anthony and Kate after the books and holy shit thank god they changed basically everything
Book Anthony was just an abusive brute. There was nothing likeable about him at all.
@@woodswitchprints Most of the Bridgerton men were completely unlikable in the books sadly.
@@Komorebiki I believe it
Bridgerton men in the book are VERY problematic and infuriating. I preferred audio listening to the books instead of actually reading because they pissed me off so much. I understand they were written like 30 years ago and modern sensibilities and values changed a lot but all the men managed to piss me off at one point in all the books I read from the Bridgerton universe. Believe it or not, Colin is NOT THE WORSE. But I kinda was entertained through it because I was listening while working on a long project so, I recommend this way "reading this series"
colin being not the worse is scaring me lol i do feel like listening on 2x speed would've made this story more bearable
@@catherineannechiang The book is short and not very eventful, so listening to it was easy and quick. I did in much less than 8 hours of work. I was cursing at him at some points but it was quite "unpainful". BUT I CAN'T SAY THE SAME FOR PHILIP CRANE. This man pissed me off SO MUCH!! I almost gave up on the Eloise book so many times. I ended it just because I'm stubborn. Book-Eloise deserved MUCH better than what she ended up with.
@@nicolebustamante313 nooo that makes me so sad because I love Eloise! I always thought she’d need a really great match to want to get married
@@catherineannechiang😢 I quite like the book Eloise although she makes very questionable decisions throughout her book, in my opinion, I felt very sorry for her. Philip Crane, to me, is the worst of all the Bridgerton men. I was incredibly frustrated with him from beginning to end of the book. I swear I shouted at my computer so many times, that my mom was at the door checking if I was ok- like "Are you ok. Who are you fighting with?"😅 I could NEVER actually read this book, I would be in a bad mood for a week.😂
@@catherineannechiangI honestly think the series gonna handle both stories much better. I think they improved A LOT Antony and his story.
Personally, I want to see lady Danbury and Penelope‘s relationship in the show. I hope we get that. In terms of Pen and Colin, the whole exchange about pen money would be very cute to see as well as their first meeting. But I am bummed that we probably won’t get the Reveal ball scene that we did in the book, since they basically already used it for Kate and Anthony.
The Bridgerton Books are like kinda problematic compared to the very escapist fantasy of the show
The phrase “you can do anything, you’re a man” is exactly what Eloise said to Benedict in the scene of the second season when she’s smoking a cigarette and he shares one with her. I think bits and pieces of the different books are mixed into different places and from different characters to make the translation to screen easier for different characters. I usually like book series better than tv series because they are usually more detailed. However, I think in this case, Shonda rhymes has made an exquisite choice for the series. The music, the lighting, the beautiful atmosphere and the great acting has made the series my favorite. She makes me want to be in her world. She has truly made it a work of art. Even my brother has gotten into the show. (And that’s saying a lot as I wouldn’t usually see guys liking period dramas.) she has amazing talent and taste.
Having watched the 2nd part of the 3rd season, Penelope addresses this with Colin as well, in an even more direct way, telling him that he at least has choices not like women whose only choice is to hide the parts of themselves the society won't accept.
The book bridgerton men in general suckkk. Except maybe Michael. They're the same flavour of rich, white, hot men with trauma and also their own kind of misogynistic issues.
Fran and Michael had the best relationship bc they had mutual respect/love for each other and Fran was a widow so not inexperienced on love/marriage/ sex like the other female characters
@@malena5026this sounds actually good! I really appreciate when regency romance has heroines who are older and/or experienced
@@catherineannechiang yes their book is truly the best in my opinion and very emotional :)
And somehow Phillip Crane manages to take Brigerton problematic to a whole new low. Francesca’s and Hyacinths books were the only redeeming storyline’s in the whole series in my opinion. I am so grateful the show is able to build on them to make something infinitely better
@@OryxArya Yeah Francesca and Hyacinth were the only books I really remembered and liked
I didn't enjoy Book Colin at all as well. I know Shonda will deal with him for me though.
The jealousy was the most annoying part. Ugh
13:00 she begged him not to open that letter, he annoyed me so much
omg the lack of respect for her!! ignoring her consent and boundaries!! big red flag 😭
"The bar is on the floor" LOL you're fantastic! Line and delivery on point!
Colin outing Penelope as LWD at the end to the entire ton, without her knowledge, still infuriates me. Also, the fact that Pen never told her _best friend_ she was LWD, for like 11 years of publishing the gossip rag, really confused me. (And JQ conveniently not having Eloise not be there for the big reveal-their friendship became an afterthought.) Gah, I felt like the book started off well and had some cute silly moments, but when Colin went alpha male it lost me.
when I worked at a book store i read if in one day while no costumers came.
and i actually thought i would get something more sustainable but what i got was a 5 doller bodice ripper from the grocerie store.
I think reason why they Picked the Bridgerton Franchise to build on was because it gave them a lot of room with what to doo, since the books are so thin in plot and have nearly no side story. also they are all verry formulaic, so i am glad the show is doing its own thing
I hope in the series they won't shame Penelope into begging him to kiss her and saying "Please" and " Thank you"... I will literally stop seeing it!
What do u think now the season is out 😅😂?
oh you must be livid at the moment
I haven't read the book, but I thought the way it played out in the show was fantastic.
Hi, I think the season was awful. Not because of the kiss, they made it in a different way with her leaving him with no reaction. But it’s poorly written, too many plot lines, too many side stories, meaningless even the Queen is boring and serves no purpose at all, they have very little time together to develop a plausible change in their relationship, I shipped Francesca more than them. Colin looks like a stalker, that’s all he does, we don’t see good conversations between them, the balloon scene is ridiculous, his diary is absurd and the way he cuts his hand is not believable, that whole interaction is rushed and poorly executed. Suddenly Pen doesn’t have a brain she only has asthma. I liked Lord Debling but it wasn’t supposed to be needed so Colin thinks he might lose her or be jealous, he should’ve liked her for her with more screen time and her evolution as woman without treating him like he’s the last coke in the desert, he never has to fight for anything and didn’t have to fight for her either… I don’t know what’s the fuss with the carriage scene because there’s no build up to that so it felt fake, his “declaration” was awful “what if I did have feelings for you”? What am I, 12??
I hope part 2 is better but they already ruined part 1. I saw people asking for a spin-off and I’m all for it, do their season again with good writers! Penelope’s character deserves that much.
And Eloise remains insufferable, also don’t care for Cressida’s storyline I don’t need to know her hardships so she can fake being LW 🙄 she is a bully and will always be and that’s why she is single not because of her parents. Anyway… the writing is awful, I don’t know what happened… I think people will be happy with them hooking up and taking their clothes off and that’s all but there are better series to watch for that reason.
he made me mad in the show so i turned to the books. that was the biggest mistake i could have made. please shonda make him not terrible. he doesn't even have to be good i'm just begging him to be less terrible
Your commentary was delightful. I started to read and then skimmed the book a few weeks ago, and you observations about Colin-the-Man Baby (although you didn't use that term) are spot on. There has certainly been a shift in regency novels during the past decade-plus with the women being more clever and less likely in need of rescue and the men having more emotional depth than lust, anger, and jealousy. Thanks for this!
thank you! I've struggled reading regency romance in the past because of the baked-in patriarchy and gender roles but I agree, the genre seems to be expanding and thriving with strong heroines and more vulnerable heroes :')
When you mentioned how we just want a himbo hero, I instantly wanted to reread Nettle & Bone with the most perfect himbo hero to exist.
taking notes and adding to my tbr!
Seconded. Another book for the horde
I’m excited for s3, but I’m REALLY hoping they don’t take lady whistledown away. Penelope running around and being sneaky was one of my favorite bits in s2 and I want more + whistledowm makes Bridgerton as a show stand out all the more
And in the show they made him two dimensional. I guess it's an improvement from his book counterpart, but he was so cute in previous seasons. There were signs that he did really like her, but the ball hadn't dropped yet. I wish they had leaned more into that. But no, he's that annoying person that went on a tour of several countries and now thinks he's this enlightened. They could've easily done the thing where he's surrounded by interested girls and Pen walks by and he ditches the girls for the safety of Pen's company and that's how the ball finally drops. They also made him this guy who pays for sex and that's not book Colin or previous seasons Colin. That's his brothers; that's what Anthony and Benedict do. Anthony more, Benedict is more adventurous with his romances (quite the deviation from the book, but I'm here for it). Sweet, innocent Colin was perfect for the friends to lovers, but they changed him and now he's annoying self obsessed Colin. I dislike Colin in this season more than Anthony from season one.
Sweet innocent Colin not paying for sex? Girl, what were you reading? The book made it quite clear that he was sexually experienced and it was not with nice girls. In the book, he literally tells her that he would never act that way WITH A WOMAN OF HER BACKGROUND and not propose marriage. Colin sure as hell was not virginal and innocent in any way considering the fact that he knew his way around the female body and his thoughts about how she was obviously still a virgin. I don't want to be graphic, but his observations were of a man who had had a lot of sex before her.
Oh God. This made me actually yell at my book. Lol REALLY hoping the show does right by our girl. Book Colin is straight up awful.
omg yes bc penelope deserves SO MUCH better!!
I fully agree ! This was my least favorite book because of how mush physical abuse Julia Quinn inflicted on Penelope. I especially hated how he bruised her arm during the engagement ball and the time he yanked her out the carriage so hard she falls flat on her face on the sidewalk ?! In Eloise’s book, the author creates a scenario where Eloise ends up with a black eye. It’s almost as if Julia hates her own characters. I really hope the show does better !
Oh they did MUCH better dw dw
Sadly, she may have been writing to be more accurate for the time
Colin and Penelope has been my fave characters since S01. And when i found out that they have their own book and they end up together, of course i needed to read it. Ohhh... boyyy....
I think this is the first time in my readers/watchers life when i'm so happy that show made changes in book character and plot. Jesus, book Colin was such a red flag. His anger issues were handled so poorly and glossed over by author like it's all okay. Thank god show Colin is better. At least until now (who knows what will happen in last 4 eps). I don't see why show Colin needs to grovel(i've seen people demanding that show Collin grovel). He did not do anything. He did not know that Penelope has feelings for him. Why would he grovel about things he did not even knew? And then he said a bad comment that hurt Penelope's feelings but he apologized to her when she told him that she heard that and it was hurtful to her. He does not need to grovel about 1 comment. I mean - Anthony was basically marrying another woman and did not have the balls to call it off sooner. He used her knowing he liked her sister. That's something you grovel about. Not one bad comment. So i don't get the hate show Colin gets. Book Colin - that dislike i get. He was pretty problematic.
I hated Colin in the book. I mean in show, he is more ridiculous in the end and I don't think he is really begging at all because in trailer her doesn't really beg. He did seemed to be embarrassed of her. But, if there is a chance of redemption, I want him to be opposite of book Colin. Book Colin make it feels as if loving pen is such a big task to do, the way he literally questions himself and is so jealous of her. I want him to be in agony, not only because of Lord Debling but for everything. He should realise his stupid mistakes and make up for it. If he turns out to be like the book Colin, I will ship pen and debling. I hope that they don't make Pen's other suitors to be horrible people. I hope Lord Debling is amazing
Great video! I read all the books after season one of the show came out and remembered not liking Penelope and Colin's book - more specifically not liking him as a love interest for her; she absolutely deserves better
I think the show generally treats Penelope better than the books so hopefully Colin will treat her with more respect and kindness. I have high hopes for this season. I prefered season one to book one, I missed some of the bonding moments between Anthony and Kate and the bond between the Sharmas in book 2 even though it was still a great show overall. If Edwina doesn't marry the prince, I'll riot because all that character assassination would have been for nothing.
Anyway, I truly hope Polin's season is better than their book and have no reason to believe otherwise
Im just waiting for Gregory’s story because I feel like of all the bridgerton men he was the best. Like in literally all senses. He was a true romance hero.
I want series Colin begging. Pleading. I hope Shondaland delivers!
I think one thing to note though was that in the book Collin does admit that he was jealous of Penelope and her success, I wouldn’t say he was always angry at her for no reason
The book and the show are so much different than I was expecting!
I’m critical of book Collin and tv show Collin. I would choose Debling any day. Still, this is a Polin Season so I still look forward to seeing how Part 2 will be. Penelope deserves so much better.
I really hope for the carriage scene to be a bit different from the book. Cuz tbh for me is very akward to go from arguing to making out, though at that time when the book was out that behaviour was really common on shows but now is really toxic
Eloise's man in the book sucked too, chai! What were they thinking?
Lordy lord. Hopefully, she will get a different story.
I kinda hope she gets with lord dealing or something like go with him on his travels
"the bar is on the floor"!! brilliant!!
This was very well described! I’d been having a hard time listening to other content creators sum up this book but thank you for making this one!
so far the first half of the series is soo much better than the book seems lol
The amount of times he grabs her arm and literally thinks he's probably gonna leave a bruise but "oh well" was seriously off putting to me
So here's the thing about Penelope's weight. If you were curvy, you were considered beautiful because you could bear children.
I read the books and yes Colin does have his moments where you wanna smack him on the head but overall I love how he’s written, Julia Quinn is writing men how they would be in that time period. They had all the power, they had all the say so, so yes Colin does have some qualities that in today’s society is a big red flag, but in that time period that’s how it was. Romancing Mr Bridgerton is my favorite book in the series. Penelope is such an amazing complex character and the fact that she’s able to do and accomplish everything she did in that time, is just amazing and I’m absolutely looking forward to how the show will portray Colin finding out that she is lady whistledown, I also hope that they put the conversation that happens between Eloise and Penelope when she and Colin are engaged. A big part of why Eloise finally decides to be more open towards marriage is because Penelope gets engaged first. This season is going to be amazing and I cannot wait to see Colin and Penelope’s story on the big screen.
I like the book for the way the scenes were follower up. Like collin knew before eloise about whistledown. And collin and penelope going to featheringtons house first to announce their engagement. The spicy scenes were better in the book too. It wasn’t just collin falling in love with pen after one freaking kiss. In the book some things were better. The series legit changes the sequence
thankfully show colin is a lot better and the whole first kiss i think was done well
“Here’s a cookie” best quote ever 😂
bro i HATED how Colin treated pen after finding out she’s LW. like i get it id be mad but he didn’t even have a good reason to be mad, he literally said he was mad because he was jealous. Thankfully i don’t think they’re making Colin as rough as he is in the books with pen which is kinda why i like show bridgerton more than book bridgerton it’s like they saw the potential in the books and turned it into something great
I liked Colin in the books, except in his own 😅😅 Penelope was the star in the book tbh. I only enjoyed the book because of her.
the first half of show was been disappointing. We didn't get to see how she met him or how they became friends.
Colin did mention when Penelope's bonnet blew into his face he fell off his horse when they were children and that was the first time they met. I understand why they probably didn't show it as a flash back as they would have had to cast a child Colin and a child Penelope.
Couldnt agree more, i actually read the book after they aired the first half of season 3 and saw people raving about the book so i couldnt wait and started reading it (its actually the first book of the series that i read) and goddamit i was frustrated,collin was a jerk the whole book, from the kissing scene where he acted like a child and got mad because she thanked him and he understood that she saw what he did as a favor (whcih is true,his first motive was because he felt bad) and ran away like a little coward making my girl spiral bad,the church scene too,like who gives you the right to be mad because she has a life,and i also didint like that the makeout in the carriage was after he treated her awfully,like no boy you dont deserve that,his tantrum whenever she tried to discuss LWD is also infuriating,but the cherry on top was when his solution to cressida’s threat is to out penelpe WITHOUT TELLING HER,like wtfff,he was gonna reveal her identity asLWD infront of the intire ton whiout discussing it with her,i literally screamed at my book
All in all there was no growth in his character,he was still this asshole who makes everything about him(literaly most of the conversation he spins around to be about him!his writing ,his feeling ,etc)
I read the book because i loved show penelope,i loved her story,her being overlooked wallflower in everybody’s eyes but in fact she is this beautiful smart woman who made a business in an era where that wasn’t expected of a novle woman,but my girl deserved better
There is actually one thing that i liked in the books more than the show(but mind you ive only read this book)is eloise’s character,i cant stand her in the show,because she always makes things about her and never listen(the fact that she found out that pen is LWD just because she listend to her friend ONCE is my proof)but in the book she listens ,the conversations arent one sided (granted there wasnt many and there was no fovus on them but still she topped show eloise)
I rsmbled a ton because non of the people around me watches or read the books so iah to let it out 😂
Alright Penelope deserve someone WAY BETTER THAN COLLIN!!!!!
LMAO! 3:12 - the text says, "The plumper people didn't have to work psychically and they had plenty to eat." Good thing those rich folks didn't have to be psychic - all those psychics must be skinny.
Unfortunately, this was the first book from the series that attempted to read. I couldn't get through it. It constantly said what a nice guy he was while he was acting like a huge bully with an ugly temper, constantly. He was also violent towards her and she still loved him.
It was cringy, I didn't enjoy it or finish it.
The TV series has been way better with character development. I hope they don't turn him into the creep from the books.
😮 how was he violent!? I hate that
I had to stop reading when I got to that engagement scene. It was too triggering. That shit is NOT romantic and in real life, that would be cause for some real fkn concern.
i’ve read this book after watching the 3rd season because I wanted some fun, easy read. but colin’s behavior really surprised me. i think the way he acted was downright abusive at times, how he talked to Penelope, tried to control her and to domineer over her. not to mention grabbing her by the arms. It was really scary behavior and couldn’t see it as a romance. the show is not great, but colin is less piece of a shit and Pen has more agency
Great video! I'd love to hear your thoughts and opinions on Benedicts book!!
thank you! I've heard benedict's book is better so I may give it a shot haha
@@catherineannechiang book Ben is even more problematic than book Colin, IMO.
@@PRETTINGTONI'm hopeful that since his arc of confronting his privilege has been introduced from season one instead of confined to his season that the show's version of his story will be gentler. At least Benedict grows and apologizes by the end of his book 🤷🏾♀️
@@PRETTINGTONoh…oh no 😭
@@catherineannechiang im in the middle of reading it now and no its not. the benedict we know and love from the show is no where to be seen on the pages.
Tbh I think for me I didn’t like the aspect that they removed from the show about how Colin was the most favourite brother for almost everyone, especially his and Eloise’s relationship. While I agree with some of it, they have removed almost all aspects of him being a good brother and his relationships with his siblings. Also for the ‘ women can’t do anything / Penelope going somewhere alone’ I think those things were valid because it was written during that era so I didn’t mind that, I 100% agree with Colin being in love even more after finding out she is Lady Whistledown, I didn’t like his reaction, like I understood where he was coming from but I hope he really admires her after he finds out, but Colin is my farrr my favourite brother lol. Like atleast he was better than Anthony when it came to his siblings, and the whole Edwina storyline I didn’t like because’ all for honor’ he was going to marry the sister while having feelings for the other one, creeped me out. And didn’t like Simon’s trauma dump on Daphne so as far as shows go Colin is still the best for me lol he hasn’t done anything too low to go back from as far as characters go
I read all the Bridgerton books years ago and this book was my least liked, can’t really remember why. From all the comments, it seems that this year is also much less popular than Seasons 1 and 2, so Shona has not improved the story as well as we would have liked. Let’s hope Colin eventually becomes a better man!
now I need your opinion of season 3
I really like the show and so after the second season ended I wanted to read the books. In the middle of Francescas story I stopped, because I couldn't read it anymore. The men are always the same, they get really mad, do so weird shit and it gets never addressed and it's supposed to be hot of something, idk. This is the rare occasion where a show is sooooo much better than the books
I’m so glad I’m not the only one! I was disappointed with RMB. It dragged and was boring to me, not to mention, the lack of challenge and build up for Colin to win Pen over. It was too easy! He just woke up one day and realized, oooh I think I like her. Bleh, if you ask me. Insert eye roll here. However, I do appreciate the back story for them as friends though. And I feel the LW reveal to society was kind of anti climactic, sadly.
Colin can’t catch a clue Bridgerton ❤😂😂😂
Show Colin is great, not perfect (he’s vulnerable, traumatized by Marina, betrayed by Penelope). But Book Colin is a brat.
I had problems with every main man in every season (and some of the ladies), but the problems started from slight irritation in S1, to real irritation with Anthony's temper S2, and the irritation is rising steadily with the vapid, two-dimensional, annoying and strangely oversexed Colin in S3, who is apparently straight up dislikeable in the books. And S3 is not giving me nearly enough of the main couple. They still feel like side characters, for goodness sakes!!! 😕
Thank GOD I didn’t read this book
I agree with u completely....he was an absolute toolbox. This was the most unromantic book of the series so far...havent read all of them. He was almost abusive with the grabbing and demeaning...
I hate Show Colin after watching season three, but after watching this it looks like I hate Book Colin now 😂 He doesn’t get much better. Why is he so angry. For why lol
wow the book sounds so much better than the movie. :o
oh wow now in kinda scared for season 3 what if i dont like it 😢
Just read Francesca’s book and turns out after he proposed he went straight to a brothel. I DNF his book because of how insufferable he is but that just put a cherry on top of a shit sandwich. Show Collin is going to have to WORK for me to enjoy my favorite characters season (Ms. Penelope Featherington)
i beg your finest pardon?!?!?! colin went to a brothel???
I have said it once and Ill say it again I really dislike the men in this series. The series in terms of rengcy romance is very boring and leaves a lot to desire that is my personal opinion.
That rapey scene in season 1 was so off putting, I haven’t watched season 2 yet…
trust season 2 is so much better, slow burn and much more chemistry
Season 1 is unwatchable and unbearable. However I personally loved the second season, I recommend people to skip the first season
Thank u i needed this because i felt like they dont belong together. Like why would anyone want this love story.
I hated Book Colin so much, it was my first book of the series and also my second to last. He was a pathetic jealous man baby who was abusive to his wife abd then did whatever he wanted to do. As I read I desperately wanted her to find someone else, anyone else would have been a better choice. She literally looks at him and says I have no idea why I was in love with this man. Thats a relationship death knell. And the only reason she was being blackmailed was because he cared about his reputation, she did not care one bit. I just desperately wanted him to grovel and her to kick him but noooo, he saves the day with boring whatever. A man who bruises you and refuses to even talk to you should be dead at the end of a book not the savior.
I completely agree
Uff no me acordaba de varios de taller reg flags del libro... Creo que la serie mejoro mucho la historia y a Colin
Colin has some anger issues like DUDE....
I don't think it was done well in the book, but in the show, you get the greater understanding that they're both hiding who they really are, even to each other. However, Pen loved him first because she knew him better than he knew himself, could see through him. And only when Pen gains more confidence to be herself he suddenly starts to fall in love with her. Again, it's way better in the show than in the book so far. But I think that's what we're supposed to get out of their back and forth in the beginning.
I actually loved the book. I didnt like Colin as much but reading Colin in the first 3 books and reading him here he just wasnt as bad as reading it on its own. Also, Julia made these men bad and i just ignored some of the things he did. I loved that Penelope puts him in his place and the book was so funny. Its right up there with Frannies book for me.
idk i have read all the books before because i really wanted to read this one and i it made me hate him anyway xD didnt even finish the book i was so dissappointed...on the other hand im not begrudging anyone for liking these books, everybody has different tastes especially in romance
“But there was none 😕”
This book honestly made me hate Colin like I don’t know how anyone’s favorite couple is
Polin 😭😭
Reading the Book now. Show Colin is way superior in my opinion
This is the best review! tbh I think the show is ridiculous and toxic, I like the underdogs and that's all, like I said in a previous comment, I only like Penelope AND... still... But what you said from the books lol well I wasn't expecting literature but the yes, the men are all the same. Season 2 was ridiculous, I didn't know how it went, I stopped seeing at a certain point..
Now that part 1 is is out, I can say that though he still needed a bit more work & maybe more exploration... show Colin is not worse than Book Colin.......... so far.
You should have written season 3, it would have been so much better
The whole season of them so far has been underwhelming at best. It’s been all bad behavior, bad proposal, bad chemistry, bad distraction in Debling who we would root for if they hadn’t made him a weirdo. Ugh and way too much audio of Pen breathing heavy. And I was so excited for them 😢
he better grovel in this show
I totally agree with you!!! I think Colin is an ass… he does not deserve her:(
I thought book Colin was borderline abusive
I agree with Everything you’re saying omg he is insufferable
@15:58 It does. Mweh heh heh.
i don't get why people like the book so much or really most of them
Tv collin was pretty decent at least way better than book collin
I read the book of Polin about two years ago and I hate Colin, he is kind of selfish and jealous of Penelope. He is boring in the show. The best part of Colin is Penelope love for him.
While I read the book all I could think was, why isn’t Penelope the one traveling the world?
thank gooood the tv serie is much better!
I hated Colin so much in the book. He doesn’t deserve Pen.
Terrible news from the future. Show Colin is just as awful as book Colin, just differently. They changed almost everything and he's still the worst.