Absolutely not sure. I think the inclusion of Viv in the Mead family photo is perhaps more important than the lap sitting photo (although I agree with Sarah that the hand placement on the lap photo was maybe meaningful). Anyway, I remember being in law school in the 90s and all the lesbians dated each other because there were only so many of us and it was a freaking soap opera. These guys don't have a lot of time outside of football so it sort of makes sense that they sometimes seem to just stand up and change partners like grownup musical chairs.
The only person outside the family who's on the birthdayparty was Viv. You don't invite just a girlfriend on a famiy birthdayparty. That's THE girlfriend!!!!!
Yeah at first sarah and I were thinking the Pic of Beth on Vivs lap was more "proof" but now we are thinking its the family pic!!! Deffo girlfriend situation!! They do look very happy!
They are a good psychological match. Viv is happy with a partner that is happy being the lead member. I have long wonderedI at Viv's demeanor, often sullen, uncomfortable, seeming not to enjoy her position in football hierarchy. She reminds me of a close high school friend and fellow hockey player of my daughter, a brilliant skater but totally unable to 'pull the trigger' and score. However scoring is not an issue for Viv EXCEPT the limelight is brings is not enjoyed. Now ( and for sure they are partners) Viv can enjoy the comfort of her more outgoing partner. People that form couples can BOTH grow towards their chosen love. I think they will be very happy.
and if you go back a few seconds in that video to th-cam.com/video/IUega4c8JSU/w-d-xo.html you can hear that it's a reporter from "GOAL" that is asking that question, not Viv. Why would Viv be in a press conference? (please note that they are called press conferences for a specific reason, that being for PRESS to ask questions)
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I really didn't see daan and ellie together. but now i think they are super cute. if viv and beth turn out be together they probably also cute. i don't think viv would do all these things if she didn't have feelings for beth. grandma out of her comfort zone
I was at the game when Lisa was, sat near them. Lisa was fine with them all, chatting, hugging and taking pictures with Vivs family. Wasn’t awkward at all.
OH wow! Thank you for this! Sarah and I will mention this on our next video! Happy for Viv and beth but but yeah def a situation that probably took time to process esp for Lisa. Thanks again for this!
When I searched up beth mead it said who is she dating and came up with viv I just think that beth and viv are a thing but lisa is fine with it would have been harder if she was still at arsenal btw fan account
The relationships between players is one of the fascinating things about women's football that doesn't happen in the men's game (well not openly anyway). Beth and Viv would make sense because they went on a group holiday to Ibiza without Lisa. And maybe Viv was waiting for Lisa to make a permanent move to West Ham, before SHE signed a new contract with Arsenal. It's strange, because Lisa and Viv seemed so close up until very recently, and sad, because they're both such sweet people, but if Beth and Danielle can stay on good terms then I'm sure Lisa and Viv can too.
Vivianne is an absolute class act both on and off the pitch. Her work with common goal, the less fortunate children, gender equality is commendable. While on the field, her goal scoring exploits are second to none.
I love Lisa and just want to see her, and Viv and Beth, happy and healthy playing good soccer. I don't usually look into player's lives or look into their relationships so I found out about Lisa and Viv through the We Play Strong vlogs, making Tuesdays my favorite days. I would have loved for them to have stay together, but people and feelings change. Hopefully for the better. However, if anyone wants to keep living in denial of the pinkie holding meaning anything, just think of it as an extrovert guiding their introvert friend through a red carpet event lol. It's good sportsmanship and emotional support.
You can never know for sure until there's an official announcement. I tend to believe that there's a good chance Beth and Viv are a couple by the family photos.
I think Lisa and Viv has broken-up already... because they don't spent so much time for each other.maybe,the distance had a big factor on their break-up.But,if they want to work things out,they should give time for each other for once.but,that doesn't happen.even if the season is over.i've never seen them going out together.perhaps,they have agreed to parted ways and remain as friends.
my head hurts with all these overlapping couples, this is like university all over again hahah. i totally shipped Viv & Lisa, and tbh the lap photo shook me because I didn't see Lisa & Viv's break up coming at all. But Viv & Meado, even though for me it's come out of nowhere, I'm totally down for it. Hope we get more content with them down the line. They're probably just taking it slow/being respectful to Lisa, seeing as they're all close friends.
Honestly, I think they all are just friends helping each other and trying to be supportive. there are a lot of rumors out there but to be honest I just think they are good friends. But what is really sad is that Viv and Lisa they are not together anymore. Their chemistry was so cool and also I used to enjoy their vlogs together more than the others. I really gonna miss that.
I’m a big Viv & Lisa fan and I thought something was up when Lisa went on her big 30 birthday vacation without Viv. But then Euro was coming close so I thought it was a legitimate reason. In term of Viv & Beth, I think they’re just good friends since I cannot wrap my head around those two being a couple. It’s just an odd picture imo :/ Although, I’m happy with whatever makes Viv happy. She deserves it all. I’m just sad for Viv & Lisa. I really thought they would have made it far together.
I think these women give up everything for football. they move away from family and friends. they quickly become close with their teammates makes sense. i think friends become lovers and lovers become friends is a real thing in women's football.
I didn't want to believe it at first either. I was hoping for Amelia and Beth orLaura and Beth...but the final straw for me was the family picture!Seemed very cozy like girlfriends rather then just friends! But hey as long as they are happy im all in too!
They went to Harry Potter World together in a We Play Strong vlog back in like March or something. It was just them and one friend. Maybe not much there but I found it interesting.
That was Daan's best friend who visited them. She might have sent her to check if that was real or wanted to get her staff. As she never returned to england since she left in october. So they put her in the vlogs :D I don't think a player would post such a picture just for entertaining as they are clearly getting all the attention and Viv knew after Euro win all eyes would be on beth, so she sent a clear message to everyone that she is taken.
I’m going to jump on the “not fully convinced” train, but there’s definitely something there. Beth and Viv are both out, and so they don’t necessarily get the privacy they would need to figure out what this is. It looks like very good friends who are exploring the possibility of something more, but not yet diving into it. In comparison to preath, we were on the speculation train for years, but they weren’t out yet and had the luxury of exploring their relationship outside of the spotlight. Only time will tell with Beth and Viv, but I’m all for the sportsmanship we’ve seen so far this year lol
Ohh!! Yess! i can totally see that!! like Just seeing what happens and going with it. But also not trying to "hide" things. I think they both don't let the speculation bother them. I just can't get over how I didn't see this coming! ITs wild! And yes so much sportsmanship!!! I never get tired of it!
I do love your show. It may seem weird that a heterosexual male likes your show, but I hope that in the 21st C, we are beyond that. I have been watching and loving Arsenal Women football for at least 2 years. I always find it bizarre how we seem to know people so well, but have never met them. All the A WSL team are that way in my mind, but they would surely tell me to sod off, etc, if I said “hello”. S and S, you do such a great job of presenting women’s personalities, loves and everything else and I hope you will continue for years and years to come. Just wish we had males who are able to help men open up and come out like you do. Keep the good work going. John
@John Healslip Awesome you are enjoying! Thank you! Means a lot! Yeah Sometimes I find myself thinking if I ever met the woso girls on the street i would feel like I knew them But then I have to remind myself that they probably have so much going on we will never know. They are so amazing that it would be wild But thanks again for the kind words! We always try to have fun and see the positives in things. And Yes once males feel more comfortable coming out in sport i think they world will be a better place for everyone!
The Beth Amelia interviews are so cheeky and I totally love that “ship” but as much as I want it to be a thing, I know it’s just them shooting the shit and being flirty and fun, nothing more than that. I think maybe Beth has been there for Viv through this apparent breakup and vice versa, so their relationship is obviously growing since they are both single at the same time and need to fill that loneliness with friendship. I would be floooooored if they were dating. But either way we can’t loose!
Saw that interview yeah seems some flirting happening!!If they go to an awards doing Tobin and Christan pinky hold then not convinced but Cristy and Sam's official we are a couple is and was the best and they had those flirty messages flying!! Time will tell hope Lisa is fine if true then perhaps a new ship at west ham ??? Take care
In the conspiracy theory why would Arsenal be helping by posting about them? I love it, I don't think there's a conspiracy but I love that you are including it so I want to hear more about it, assuming we don't get either make out sesh or pinky holding any time soon.
I definitely think viv and beth are together! Viv is so adorable! Maybe it's my mind on overdrive but did DVD end it with Beth or the other way round? Because the way Beth stared at DVD at the end of match was someone who still looked in love 😭 now IMAGINE if Beth is with Viv to make DVD jealous like 'look what you could have had but walked away' kind of thing 😱 I hope for Viv that isn't the case but dating your exes teammate is a little close to home don't you think? Or Beth just loves her Dutch girls 😉🤣
Viv, Beth and Katie are like bros. I always loved when I saw them together because they were so funny. Lisa at the NedFra game with two Katie's and Viv's parents is what I'm thinking about. There were WPS stories from Katie and Ruesha did at HT(just before the HT begins) and I clearly saw Lisa looking down and encouraged whoever the person down there saying like c'mon or something with the hand gesture. I thought it was Viv, maybe that was maybe not. And then acted weird when Viv came up to her. Viv - Lisa - Beth situation is so confusing and maybe Viv and Beth took the bromance to the next level.
Totally agree why is Arsenal commenting on their relationship cause they haven’t done it for anyone else. I seriously don’t know nut they could be just great friends, and it’s so confusing Beth, Viv and Lisa um just so and yes probably Lisa and Beth no more but I don’t know. Lol this just hurts my head !!!!
One thing for sure viv and lisa are not together anymore . Viv and lisa both attended the final but individually. If they were together they would've gone together too. I think viv and beth are together . Viv was literally the only dutchie person who attended the party with the lionesses . Supportive wag viv attended.
I'm sure we can all agree that, after the Euros she just had, to quote Disney's Hercules, our girl Beth is so hot, steam is cool. All of the England players will now get that extra bit of fame thanks to the tournament win. If anyone knows what that is like, it is Viv (and Daan before her) so I guess thats the "type" Beth is going for. also, Beth mentioned in her 'Grassroots story' for the England FA website that growing up she was a country girl, who had to travel long distances with her parents to play football. I guess thats another thing she has in common with Viv??
Y’all really on the other side of the country trying to kill me showing me these videos. This is really making me question that black and white photo Viv posted on instagram. I thought it was Lisa but now it might be Beth oh no so much rainbow hopping.
Hi Sara and Sarah.I Like u both guys so much the way u respect each other's opinions! Long Live as a Married Couples! Any way I am Confused about Beth and Viv,let's wait and see may b they will say something to the public.
There's no big deal about Arsenal posting about Beth and Viv. You must not be an Arsenal fan of you think there is. MEADEMA started out as a football thing, cos of the goals and assists between Beth and Viv last season. I used Meadema all through last season and it was never about anything other than football. Lol
Oh wow that makes sense. I guess it's confusing if they knew about their more personal relationship when they posted recent things. Not that it matters since like you said they have been using Meadema for a while. The only thing i really heard is that Arsenal's Social media posted the pic of Beth on Vivs lap and Then they deleted it very soon after. But yeah it makes sense Its like they wouldn't change their social media behavior just cause they may be dating (i think i said that right lol ) Its like Changing their ship name and not putting may even be weirder ya know. Good info!! Thank you!!
All we need to know about Beth is she is a brilliant football player. Her personal life should be personal she does not need outsiders putting pressure on her.
You're right, the Amelia stuff makes no sense. If anything, it would be Beth using Amelia as a deflection considering Viv is her team mate and her friends ex.
I think that they’re just friends, Beth is very friendly to leah and also Jordan. They’ve been friends for ages. I still hope that Lisa and viv are still together 🤞❤️
There is also the possibility that football couples have been asked to cool the social media, this may be due to parents complaining, there does appear to be a bit of backlash in the UK and States against LGBTQ+
Absolutely ridiculous. Personally, I'm straight, but if I were gay and someone were to ask me to "cool it", I'd tell them to stuff it. Can you imagine the public backlash if for example someone from the FA or Arsenal asked Viv to not post something with or about her girlfriend and that got out? They would be publicly vilified and sponsors would be distancing themselves in droves. Those alleged "parents" in the UK and the States creating a backlash would have to be troglodytes basing their beliefs on outdated religious texts that condone a genocidal and baby-killing deity, even though they espouse being "pro-life" ...
@@patricowen-meehan4210 Yeah, and it's also possible there's a teapot circling the sun between Earth and Mars (see Russel's Teapot Theory). Time to get out the tin foil, if you're going to be posting this kind of "hearsay" ...
It being a distraction makes sense but for me it seems more like someone on one the teams is going through something huge and they can thrust others into the spotlight willingly to keep the other persons privacy. But if biv is real I’ll need to see Arsenal play before they both move on.
Well I feel like there is something more, even though I never expected it to happen. I love them two, kinda form a power couple. Also did you see the pictures from the night where the team celebrated at this club. First there were only pictures of Beth, but now the whole picture is published and it shows the two of them (with kinda matching outfits ^^) Why would Beth take just a very good friend with her, when all the others have their partners and families by their side?!
+ also don't believe in the "secret romance" with Amelia. Well imagine the situation...Beth and amelia have something going on and at the same time she uses Viv as a cover-up. (Also not very typically for Viv, is it?) What would Viv tell Sarina for example.."Oh yeah I am only here so that Beth can continue to have her secret romance and we want to confuse the fans." Nah, not really. But anyways, they seem happy and we all will see what is going on in the future and if not that's also fine!!!
That’s crazy, I mean you don’t know if they’re a couple, you don’t even know what has gone on between viv and Lisa maybe Lisa broke it off and her and Beth have cleared the air with Lisa, but again you don’t even know if they’re together but you’ve unfollowed them anyway because of two photos?! X
Same!! its wild but i think in the long run people have to make choices best for them. They all are under a lot of pressure but they handle it so brilliantly. love them all
For the love of god, please stop posting these types of videos on youtube. It's weird and uncomfortable, and no women soccer fan actually appreciate these types of public update. If you care so much, why not upload on reddit or websites with fewer public domains? Stop trying to profit off of these unnecessary click baits ffs and act like your age. I actually get second-hand embarrassment from this.
Absolutely not sure. I think the inclusion of Viv in the Mead family photo is perhaps more important than the lap sitting photo (although I agree with Sarah that the hand placement on the lap photo was maybe meaningful). Anyway, I remember being in law school in the 90s and all the lesbians dated each other because there were only so many of us and it was a freaking soap opera. These guys don't have a lot of time outside of football so it sort of makes sense that they sometimes seem to just stand up and change partners like grownup musical chairs.
The only person outside the family who's on the birthdayparty was Viv. You don't invite just a girlfriend on a famiy birthdayparty. That's THE girlfriend!!!!!
Yeah at first sarah and I were thinking the Pic of Beth on Vivs lap was more "proof" but now we are thinking its the family pic!!! Deffo girlfriend situation!! They do look very happy!
I just hope that Viv doesn't lose her Scottish accent!
Didn’t Viv and Lisa buy a house together?
Don’t get me wrong I loved Viv and Lisa, but I am so down for Beth and Viv. I’m actually obsessed with them!
They are a good psychological match. Viv is happy with a partner that is happy being the lead member. I have long wonderedI at Viv's demeanor, often sullen, uncomfortable, seeming not to enjoy her position in football hierarchy. She reminds me of a close high school friend and fellow hockey player of my daughter, a brilliant skater but totally unable to 'pull the trigger' and score. However scoring is not an issue for Viv EXCEPT the limelight is brings is not enjoyed.
Now ( and for sure they are partners) Viv can enjoy the comfort of her more outgoing partner.
People that form couples can BOTH grow towards their chosen love. I think they will be very happy.
I know this is big news but I'm absolutely obsessed with wonze rn
Yeah their cute factor is 1000% Giving off Preath vibes after the World cup in 2019... Lucy and Kiera love each other so much.
also in this video
th-cam.com/video/IUega4c8JSU/w-d-xo.html
in the minute 3:23 Viv is the one who is asking Beth in the press conference.
That's Viv's voice but I'm not sure that's her or not
and if you go back a few seconds in that video to th-cam.com/video/IUega4c8JSU/w-d-xo.html you can hear that it's a reporter from "GOAL" that is asking that question, not Viv. Why would Viv be in a press conference? (please note that they are called press conferences for a specific reason, that being for PRESS to ask questions)
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I really didn't see daan and ellie together. but now i think they are super cute. if viv and beth turn out be together they probably also cute. i don't think viv would do all these things if she didn't have feelings for beth. grandma out of her comfort zone
I was at the game when Lisa was, sat near them. Lisa was fine with them all, chatting, hugging and taking pictures with Vivs family. Wasn’t awkward at all.
OH wow! Thank you for this! Sarah and I will mention this on our next video! Happy for Viv and beth but but yeah def a situation that probably took time to process esp for Lisa. Thanks again for this!
When I searched up beth mead it said who is she dating and came up with viv I just think that beth and viv are a thing but lisa is fine with it would have been harder if she was still at arsenal
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The relationships between players is one of the fascinating things about women's football that doesn't happen in the men's game (well not openly anyway). Beth and Viv would make sense because they went on a group holiday to Ibiza without Lisa. And maybe Viv was waiting for Lisa to make a permanent move to West Ham, before SHE signed a new contract with Arsenal. It's strange, because Lisa and Viv seemed so close up until very recently, and sad, because they're both such sweet people, but if Beth and Danielle can stay on good terms then I'm sure Lisa and Viv can too.
Definitely together,c'mon people, you don't sit on a "Just friends" lap,pics with the in-laws? Yeah a new couple,and more content for S & S
Vivianne is an absolute class act both on and off the pitch. Her work with common goal, the less fortunate children, gender equality is commendable. While on the field, her goal scoring exploits are second to none.
I love Lisa and just want to see her, and Viv and Beth, happy and healthy playing good soccer. I don't usually look into player's lives or look into their relationships so I found out about Lisa and Viv through the We Play Strong vlogs, making Tuesdays my favorite days. I would have loved for them to have stay together, but people and feelings change. Hopefully for the better.
However, if anyone wants to keep living in denial of the pinkie holding meaning anything, just think of it as an extrovert guiding their introvert friend through a red carpet event lol. It's good sportsmanship and emotional support.
You can never know for sure until there's an official announcement.
I tend to believe that there's a good chance Beth and Viv are a couple by the family photos.
I think Lisa and Viv has broken-up already... because they don't spent so much time for each other.maybe,the distance had a big factor on their break-up.But,if they want to work things out,they should give time for each other for once.but,that doesn't happen.even if the season is over.i've never seen them going out together.perhaps,they have agreed to parted ways and remain as friends.
my head hurts with all these overlapping couples, this is like university all over again hahah. i totally shipped Viv & Lisa, and tbh the lap photo shook me because I didn't see Lisa & Viv's break up coming at all. But Viv & Meado, even though for me it's come out of nowhere, I'm totally down for it. Hope we get more content with them down the line. They're probably just taking it slow/being respectful to Lisa, seeing as they're all close friends.
They're together. There are like five arsenal players amongst Englad Women Team but Viv was obviously specifically there for Beth.
Honestly, I think they all are just friends helping each other and trying to be supportive. there are a lot of rumors out there but to be honest I just think they are good friends. But what is really sad is that Viv and Lisa they are not together anymore. Their chemistry was so cool and also I used to enjoy their vlogs together more than the others. I really gonna miss that.
I’m a big Viv & Lisa fan and I thought something was up when Lisa went on her big 30 birthday vacation without Viv. But then Euro was coming close so I thought it was a legitimate reason. In term of Viv & Beth, I think they’re just good friends since I cannot wrap my head around those two being a couple. It’s just an odd picture imo :/ Although, I’m happy with whatever makes Viv happy. She deserves it all. I’m just sad for Viv & Lisa. I really thought they would have made it far together.
Only person got shaft is Evan.But yourself in her shoe. Chang relationship like change clothes. When she get dump.Please do not take her back
I think these women give up everything for football. they move away from family and friends. they quickly become close with their teammates makes sense. i think friends become lovers and lovers become friends is a real thing in women's football.
Am stalking both of them. Let's see where they all go for vacation
It makes a change from Leah and Jordan
I didn't want to believe it at first either. I was hoping for Amelia and Beth orLaura and Beth...but the final straw for me was the family picture!Seemed very cozy like girlfriends rather then just friends! But hey as long as they are happy im all in too!
They went to Harry Potter World together in a We Play Strong vlog back in like March or something. It was just them and one friend. Maybe not much there but I found it interesting.
That was Daan's best friend who visited them. She might have sent her to check if that was real or wanted to get her staff. As she never returned to england since she left in october. So they put her in the vlogs :D I don't think a player would post such a picture just for entertaining as they are clearly getting all the attention and Viv knew after Euro win all eyes would be on beth, so she sent a clear message to everyone that she is taken.
I’m going to jump on the “not fully convinced” train, but there’s definitely something there. Beth and Viv are both out, and so they don’t necessarily get the privacy they would need to figure out what this is. It looks like very good friends who are exploring the possibility of something more, but not yet diving into it. In comparison to preath, we were on the speculation train for years, but they weren’t out yet and had the luxury of exploring their relationship outside of the spotlight. Only time will tell with Beth and Viv, but I’m all for the sportsmanship we’ve seen so far this year lol
Ohh!! Yess! i can totally see that!! like Just seeing what happens and going with it. But also not trying to "hide" things. I think they both don't let the speculation bother them. I just can't get over how I didn't see this coming! ITs wild! And yes so much sportsmanship!!! I never get tired of it!
I do love your show. It may seem weird that a heterosexual male likes your show, but I hope that in the 21st C, we are beyond that. I have been watching and loving Arsenal Women football for at least 2 years. I always find it bizarre how we seem to know people so well, but have never met them. All the A WSL team are that way in my mind, but they would surely tell me to sod off, etc, if I said “hello”.
S and S, you do such a great job of presenting women’s personalities, loves and everything else and I hope you will continue for years and years to come.
Just wish we had males who are able to help men open up and come out like you do.
Keep the good work going.
John
@John Healslip Awesome you are enjoying! Thank you! Means a lot! Yeah Sometimes I find myself thinking if I ever met the woso girls on the street i would feel like I knew them But then I have to remind myself that they probably have so much going on we will never know. They are so amazing that it would be wild But thanks again for the kind words! We always try to have fun and see the positives in things. And Yes once males feel more comfortable coming out in sport i think they world will be a better place for everyone!
Danielle's girlfriend, Ellie, wrote a post for her birthday writing 'happy birthay mijn meisje' ...
As Beth wroth for Viv ..
We saw that! I thought it was interesting! maybe some type of double meaning since Beth Just Wrote that to viv?! All wild stuff!
We won!!!! We finally did it
The Beth Amelia interviews are so cheeky and I totally love that “ship” but as much as I want it to be a thing, I know it’s just them shooting the shit and being flirty and fun, nothing more than that. I think maybe Beth has been there for Viv through this apparent breakup and vice versa, so their relationship is obviously growing since they are both single at the same time and need to fill that loneliness with friendship. I would be floooooored if they were dating. But either way we can’t loose!
Beth will draw out Viv and Viv will cool Beth some.The issue, if one baulks at growth, will they be willing to risk.
What difference does it make. Lots of openly LGBTI players in the squad. Good luck to them all.
Saw that interview yeah seems some flirting happening!!If they go to an awards doing Tobin and Christan pinky hold then not convinced but Cristy and Sam's official we are a couple is and was the best and they had those flirty messages flying!! Time will tell hope Lisa is fine if true then perhaps a new ship at west ham ??? Take care
In the conspiracy theory why would Arsenal be helping by posting about them?
I love it, I don't think there's a conspiracy but I love that you are including it so I want to hear more about it, assuming we don't get either make out sesh or pinky holding any time soon.
I definitely think viv and beth are together! Viv is so adorable! Maybe it's my mind on overdrive but did DVD end it with Beth or the other way round? Because the way Beth stared at DVD at the end of match was someone who still looked in love 😭 now IMAGINE if Beth is with Viv to make DVD jealous like 'look what you could have had but walked away' kind of thing 😱 I hope for Viv that isn't the case but dating your exes teammate is a little close to home don't you think? Or Beth just loves her Dutch girls 😉🤣
@@CarlosGarcia-fq8by minute 7 on the Beth and Vivienne identical outfits video 😊
These girls be sharing each other lol seems they can't look beyond their teammates. But they can be best of friends coz y not
uhhhhhhhh how many players from other teams were wearing any english jerseys?? that's a couple right there
Viv, Beth and Katie are like bros. I always loved when I saw them together because they were so funny. Lisa at the NedFra game with two Katie's and Viv's parents is what I'm thinking about. There were WPS stories from Katie and Ruesha did at HT(just before the HT begins) and I clearly saw Lisa looking down and encouraged whoever the person down there saying like c'mon or something with the hand gesture. I thought it was Viv, maybe that was maybe not. And then acted weird when Viv came up to her. Viv - Lisa - Beth situation is so confusing and maybe Viv and Beth took the bromance to the next level.
What’s the best way to DM you two? I think you’ve mentioned it before.
instagram.com/saraplussarah/ That is our Instagram! DM us anytime! and if that didn't work its saraplussarah on Instagram
Why is my comment regarding Diversity in woman football getting removed?
Totally agree why is Arsenal commenting on their relationship cause they haven’t done it for anyone else. I seriously don’t know nut they could be just great friends, and it’s so confusing Beth, Viv and Lisa um just so and yes probably Lisa and Beth no more but I don’t know. Lol this just hurts my head !!!!
One thing for sure viv and lisa are not together anymore . Viv and lisa both attended the final but individually. If they were together they would've gone together too. I think viv and beth are together . Viv was literally the only dutchie person who attended the party with the lionesses . Supportive wag viv attended.
I'm sure we can all agree that, after the Euros she just had, to quote Disney's Hercules, our girl Beth is so hot, steam is cool. All of the England players will now get that extra bit of fame thanks to the tournament win.
If anyone knows what that is like, it is Viv (and Daan before her) so I guess thats the "type" Beth is going for.
also, Beth mentioned in her 'Grassroots story' for the England FA website that growing up she was a country girl, who had to travel long distances with her parents to play football. I guess thats another thing she has in common with Viv??
While we're on the subject are Leah and Jordan still together?
so happy for them :)
This whole Meadema ship are so wierd, but the Amelia situation? I think not
Y’all really on the other side of the country trying to kill me showing me these videos.
This is really making me question that black and white photo Viv posted on instagram. I thought it was Lisa but now it might be Beth oh no so much rainbow hopping.
What is that B&W photo?
That photo caption was in reference to working with the team psychologist on her mental health
@@aletheiaz1576 I thought she made it B and W just because she doesn't like makeup. Tbh even I couldn't recognise her. Maybe that's the reason 😂
There's no actual proof beth was ever in a relationship with dvd
Did they ever make it public? I never heard them say anything?
Yes in DVDs IG
I don’t know what to think or say. Until I am 100% I’ll leave it at that. But not matter what I want Vivianne to be HAPPY😊😊❤️
Hi Sara and Sarah.I Like u both guys so much the way u respect each other's opinions! Long Live as a Married Couples! Any way I am Confused about Beth and Viv,let's wait and see may b they will say something to the public.
Thank you!! Means a lot!! Yeah can’t wait what they have in store! We love them so much!
There's no big deal about Arsenal posting about Beth and Viv. You must not be an Arsenal fan of you think there is. MEADEMA started out as a football thing, cos of the goals and assists between Beth and Viv last season. I used Meadema all through last season and it was never about anything other than football. Lol
Oh wow that makes sense. I guess it's confusing if they knew about their more personal relationship when they posted recent things. Not that it matters since like you said they have been using Meadema for a while. The only thing i really heard is that Arsenal's Social media posted the pic of Beth on Vivs lap and Then they deleted it very soon after. But yeah it makes sense Its like they wouldn't change their social media behavior just cause they may be dating (i think i said that right lol ) Its like Changing their ship name and not putting may even be weirder ya know. Good info!! Thank you!!
All we need to know about Beth is she is a brilliant football player. Her personal life should be personal she does not need outsiders putting pressure on her.
They are weird though icl this account
You're right, the Amelia stuff makes no sense. If anything, it would be Beth using Amelia as a deflection considering Viv is her team mate and her friends ex.
You are right!!! Logically it doesn't make much sense! Beth and Amelia would be a cute couple but not logical in this situation!
I think that they’re just friends, Beth is very friendly to leah and also Jordan. They’ve been friends for ages. I still hope that Lisa and viv are still together 🤞❤️
that ned france moment 7:30 that was most definitely awkward ! i could feel the burn here and now !
Viv was with Beth at the lionesses night out. There is a paparazzi picture of both of them. I’m convinced
AHh saw that! THey were matching Too cute!!
Just read an OK! magazine article from 3rd August - the Lionessss went on a night out and Beth was pictured with Viv!!
AHHH just saw that!! Too cute!!! They were matching! haha
It’s official
Beth and Amelia No no no
There is also the possibility that football couples have been asked to cool the social media, this may be due to parents complaining, there does appear to be a bit of backlash in the UK and States against LGBTQ+
Absolutely ridiculous. Personally, I'm straight, but if I were gay and someone were to ask me to "cool it", I'd tell them to stuff it. Can you imagine the public backlash if for example someone from the FA or Arsenal asked Viv to not post something with or about her girlfriend and that got out? They would be publicly vilified and sponsors would be distancing themselves in droves.
Those alleged "parents" in the UK and the States creating a backlash would have to be troglodytes basing their beliefs on outdated religious texts that condone a genocidal and baby-killing deity, even though they espouse being "pro-life" ...
@@twenteeen It was only an idea, I am not saying it is true, this is based on hearsay
@@patricowen-meehan4210 Yeah, and it's also possible there's a teapot circling the sun between Earth and Mars (see Russel's Teapot Theory). Time to get out the tin foil, if you're going to be posting this kind of "hearsay" ...
It being a distraction makes sense but for me it seems more like someone on one the teams is going through something huge and they can thrust others into the spotlight willingly to keep the other persons privacy.
But if biv is real I’ll need to see Arsenal play before they both move on.
I think it's nobodies business but their own.
Well I feel like there is something more, even though I never expected it to happen. I love them two, kinda form a power couple. Also did you see the pictures from the night where the team celebrated at this club. First there were only pictures of Beth, but now the whole picture is published and it shows the two of them (with kinda matching outfits ^^) Why would Beth take just a very good friend with her, when all the others have their partners and families by their side?!
+ also don't believe in the "secret romance" with Amelia. Well imagine the situation...Beth and amelia have something going on and at the same time she uses Viv as a cover-up. (Also not very typically for Viv, is it?) What would Viv tell Sarina for example.."Oh yeah I am only here so that Beth can continue to have her secret romance and we want to confuse the fans." Nah, not really. But anyways, they seem happy and we all will see what is going on in the future and if not that's also fine!!!
Lisa person here. Have unfollowed both Viv and Beth
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That’s crazy, I mean you don’t know if they’re a couple, you don’t even know what has gone on between viv and Lisa maybe Lisa broke it off and her and Beth have cleared the air with Lisa, but again you don’t even know if they’re together but you’ve unfollowed them anyway because of two photos?! X
You won't be noticed! They gained more followers. Leave people to be with who they want to be with
i hope they ardent just friends they would be so cute together
Yup yup. I ship! As long as they’re happy, I’m happy! ❤️❤️
Same!! its wild but i think in the long run people have to make choices best for them. They all are under a lot of pressure but they handle it so brilliantly. love them all
As much as it could be something it could also be absolutely nothing. We’ll just have to wait and see I guess
who cares ..
VIVs with Lisa Evans & neither Beth not Bev played for VVV
Role models for young girls? Commentary for 12-year olds.
For the love of god, please stop posting these types of videos on youtube. It's weird and uncomfortable, and no women soccer fan actually appreciate these types of public update. If you care so much, why not upload on reddit or websites with fewer public domains? Stop trying to profit off of these unnecessary click baits ffs and act like your age. I actually get second-hand embarrassment from this.
that's fine, you can go now
i mean power move dating your ex girlfriends national teammate 🥲🥲