This is about fears in life which may stop you moving on, if you only listen to them. Marco was painting all kind of horrific images what is lurking you in the river of life, if you dare to try to cross it. Floor how ever was representing your dreams, bravery and goal. Floor is trying to encourage you to overcome your fears, but she also tells that you will never get to her, if you don’t have the courage. Nightwish is often using the childrens voice to represent the inner child or innocense.
I believe it's a metaphor for the river of life. Marco is all the negativity and doubt that keeps you from living your life whereas Floor is the optimism and positivity. We're all going to die, it's how you live your life that's important
i would go the exact opposite. To me Marco is telling the truth and Floor is actually trying to lull you into crossing the river!! The beauty of nightwish you get what you want/need from a lot of the songs as Tuomas doesn't often provide his own guidance.
@@mnewm21 They are both telling you to cross the river (die) but it's how you live your life - optimistic or pessimistic - that matters. Are you going to be afraid of the risks and not "live" or will you go for it and live to the fullest
@@paulsheppard759 interesting I still see it as Marco warning and Floor enticing. It plays more truly to me that way then Floor being optimistic and Marco negative but maybe I have a more "romantic" viewpoint of the song than you.
@@mnewm21 Probably. My brain is more "logical" than "romantic" (ask my wife :( ) Still, since the end point of the journey is the same, would you rather be warned off of doing stuff or enticed into trying things. I'm not talking about recklessly doing stupid stuff, just things like I want to travel, but my "Marko's voice" is warning me to save my money for more practical things while Floor's would be encouraging me to be adventurous. I'm sure when I'm on my death bed I'll be wondering "what if" too much :(
There are good versions with Floor and with Tarja. The singing part right after the guitar solo is going to throw you off with either singer. So far you only heard Floor. This might be a good opportunity to compare the two, because it is a rather short song (5mins) - but don't judge who's better! 😀(I know you won't)
It's all metaphors and symbolism with most Nightwish stuff, very deep, very philosophical, about life, what we do with it, what we leave behind us with the ripples we leave in the river of life. Absolutely love this one, maybe just a fraction more than Romanticide, but there's nothing in it really. Maybe check out Floor and Troy performing an acoustic version of How's the Heart on Planet Rock, it's pretty special, so here's a link th-cam.com/video/yYtkPpFYzOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lBNuKoYAPEB9OyxI
Haunting Floor caused instant floorgasm. Very good reaction again. Both "Romanticide" and "Ghost River" are ones of my favourites of Nightwish, but I like "Ghost River" a little more. You asked a little softer song after this, I would recommend song called "My Walden" from Tampere concert. Greetings from Finland.
I love how Emppu talked about his part in the song....how he wasn't able to really find his path through it until he "Van Halen'd" the very opening to it, and then it just flowed. Because that opening riff is VERY Van Halen sounding in the tone. :)
You can say you are not understanding the song well without worries. Some of their songs do require some reading. I did wonder some time ago as well. It seemed as if there's two entities singing to the child. But I saw a post that explained it well and I hope it helps: "Tuomas said in a interview with spazziorock that this song is framed around a battle between mother Gaia and the devil. These two entities represent the basic feelings of humans when they go through life. Gaia represents the feelings of happiness, hope, and love. This idea is amplified by the mysterious music around her voice when it is heard, alluring you to the many possibilities of life. The devil represents all of the sorrow we feel in our lives. His music is intense and frightening, making the listener uncomfortable while listening. He keeps telling the "child" that the two are fighting over to give up, that he will die a painful death. Notice that in the song they both yell "believe it! We live as we dream/scream! " at the same time, implying an internal battle within the child. Should he give up and not fight this battle, or should he push through the hard times (the river) and push forward onto the hope on the other side? Of course, the conclusion and message of the song is one that Tuomas would be expected to write; never give up. When Gaia tells the child "never lose your heart and do come across" she's saying never to give into the darks and evils in life, and to cross the river of hardships in order to achieve the happiness on the other side. We acknowledge that they exist, but we are to realize that fighting through them and experiencing them will lead us to truly appreciate the happy moments in life." The way Floor and Marco go back and forth, the way Floor's enchanting voice overlaps with Marco's dark lines and his growls both fighting to influence the child. It is one of my favorite songs. :)
Great analysis! This is a top song for me too, I feel it’s under appreciated because it’s less complex musically than some of their others. But damn what a banger!
You said you want to take it down. You know how some days every thing is going wrong you just in a bad mood? Three Nightwish songs guaranteed to lift your spirits are My Walden, Alpenglow, either of those from Tampere or Wembley and the third song I Want My Tears back from Buenos Aries 2018. No matter how bad your day is going listen to those three songs and you just can't help but feel better afterwards.
@Abi: ok. Maybe... maybe a good one to start is Epica feat. Floor Jansen "Sancta Terra" live. You really need to have a look at them. Nightwish, Epica and Within Temptation are the big three of Symphonic Metal, you will love them all. Like your journey with Band Maid, Babymetal and Band Maid. Trust me. My favourite one you haven't seen yet. You are still at Wacken 😂. Softer Nightwish? I would recommend "Dead Boys Poem" Buenos Aires live. But you will need tissues *lol*
“Man, what a bad-ass concert.” Amen to that, sister! A truly generational show. I’ve watched it start-to-finish numerous times, and still shake my head in amazement.
and I strongly suggest she reacts to the Wembly 2015 performance instead. Much better musically and visually. Tampere just has the home country crowd, and fireworks.
this song is about that river of life and sometimes it can take us places that some of us don't return from if you don't know to navigate and how sometimes others use that darkness to lure people to where they want them to go even though it isn't good for them
Great reaction! I believe this sonng is from Imaginaerum and Tuomas has said most songs on the album are about the positive aspects of life but to make them shine they need to be contrasted with some darkness. Ghost River does that on the album.
@@Abigirl_Reacts Those songs are upbeat, and not as "dark" as ghost river. Though ghost river as a whole isn't very dark, though I will certainly concede, some of the lyrics do present that way, at least upon first listen.
My favourite of all will be Dead Boy's Poem live in Buenos Aires, most personal song for Tuomas I guess, well, Lanternlight from the last album also is very personal for him, I also think that the perfect one has to be Ghost Love Score and Greatest Show on Earth has to be their Mount Everest, but every song they make is a masterpiece, in my opinion I´d say their best ballads are While Your Lips are Still Red Live Wembley, Shoemaker (any version), Our Decades in the Sun, The Islander Live Tampere, Slow Love Slow (studio version) and Lanternlight, great reaction as always, keep rocking and stay safe!
I will second "Our Decades in the Sun", as it is criminally underrated and always relegated to the "waiting lists". It is the paean to the family, and moving in its sincerity. Also, "The Islander" (@Tampere), being the best ballad not written by Tuomas :) that I know to exist. The author at the guitar. :) Finally, yess, "Shoemaker" - although it is hardly a ballad in the classic sense, but the most touching tribute song to anyone who ever lived... On the first listen it hits you square, you CANNOT be prepared, so don't worry. :)) On ce you investigate into the meaning behind the words and the history details behind the scenes - it hits you harder. The song of the decade probably, as to its emotional impact.
Whenever you feel confused about Nightwish lyrics, remember one thing: you're probably trying to take it too literally as if it is a straightforward storytelling. Adjust your thinking to a collection of metaphorical references woven together into a larger allegory. It can take months to get an idea of how to decipher some of them. This song I still haven't completely figured out.
When people analyze NIGHTWISH's songs, they talk about the dramatic tension, the songwriting prowess, the poetic arc, the vocals (duh!), whatnot. Here is the right occasion to talk about the riffs. THIS is the best guitar riff in NIGHTWISH history, that makes it such a pleasure to hear this song, every time! First time I heard it, I could hardly believe it was my beloved NIGHTWISH! (...well I guess that was a short and succinct talk!) Overall "Ghost River", while being and sounding dark, is a debate over the course of humanity (to my mind). Some philosophers have said, the life is like a river - you cannot transcend the banks. and where you "flow" into the ocean, that is predestined. BUT, you can choose your course along the cliffs and currents of your own river. Will it be stormy? Will it be treacherous? Mild? It is your life. Also I would interpret that "Every eye sewn shut" could mean simply that everyone turns a blind eye to the evil and mistreatment among us... plus, the "leper children" are (or may be) any one of us - 'cause everyone is a child inside. Sometimes, a dead child, not able to perceive the wonder anymore. You will encounter this theme a lot in Tuomas' writing. Did you watch "Dead Boy's Poem"? One of their seminal songs. As a last point(er), if you dig the dramatic "dialogue" between Marko and Floor, it is nowhere better, albeit more smoothly composed, than in their early song, "The Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean". There is a version with Tarja (Live not optimal, but studio most adequate, I think the vox are provided by Finnish growler Tapio Wilska on that version), and with Floor (Buenos Aires, 2019). If you are really intrigued, a comparison video might be in line. :) Happy Holiday season! \m/
Hey gorgeous, surprise! I'm finally commenting on a reaction that is NOT The Warning. I've listened to Nightwish for a number of years and have heard this song a hundred times, but I've missed you and wanted to see you with that super cute hairstyle. Hope you're doing great. Oh, and you wanted something softer. Listen to Sleeping Sun. That's VERY soft the entire way through, and quite beautiful (like yourself). 🙂🙂🙂
In the album version Annette, who has a more poppy style of voice, sings the part Floor growls with a falsetto. We Live As We Dream/Scream. Slow Love Slow is a jazzy sounding song (maybe my favorite song sung by Annette) this is it live at Montreux Jazz Festival, with Annette: th-cam.com/video/6k1jeJBocb8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=is1neqqH5vo3Ug2U There is also a video of it cut from the movie Imaginarium the album is the soundtrack to: th-cam.com/video/BF1Wc-yP9nU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ast7CXO_wpSEcKaI Floor has also done it as part of her Solo Shows after Beste Zangers put her at the into the minds of far more of her fellow Dutch people: th-cam.com/video/bBG8GdyLYDk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4XhYW-UEJ96nZ7Mr
Life is full of dangers. You must face them if you want to live your life. There are several dark NW songs, but all seem to contain a message of hope. For me, this one beats Romanticide because I can relate to the message more in my experience. My favourite "soft" songs are "While Your Lips Are Still Red" and "How's The Heart".
Romanticide, without a doubt. It's one of my all time favorites (though I do have quite a list of all time favorites). You know, so far you have seen Marko characterizing mainly the dark against Floor's light. If you want to see what his clean voice is like, and take it down a bit at the same time, I suggest that you take a look at Nightwish's cover of "High Hopes". No female singer at all. Marko takes the lead and all of the guys have a chance to really shine. Especially the guitarist, Emppu, who delivers a couple of absolutely stunning solos.
I like Romanticide a little more, but this is great too. Love when Floor comes in following the children's choir, almost acapella, and sounds so gorgeous.
Elan is a song to consider that is softer as is Nemo, You should do a nightwish song a week. There's allot of diversity in their music. Elan is a great sone and totally different either the video or the live version from Buenos aries
Life has its dark and its light sides. Nightwish always wants to encourage its listeners to make life positive - be it in deeds or thoughts. But Nightwish also wants to convey hope, courage, environmental awareness, etc. with their music and lyrics. In my opinion, you are doing a very good job. Nightwish lyrics are often not so easy to understand the first time you hear them and you need your time to understand the meaning and the message. Take your time, we also need it for new songs from our favorite band. Btw - we don't have to choose, because our favorite song from Nightwish is always the song we are just listening to.
Always remember the sexual references are being used as metaphors. Marko and Floor are role playing in this one. Imagery of the dark and light. The Ghost River is a metaphor for the journey of life. Filled with all of the tragedy and triumph that life holds. Tuomas loves to write about lost innocence, thus the use of children's choirs. We all go down, but must fight to overcome. Another taste of Nightwish musical theater. Always keep in mind the message or story that drives the imagery and poetry of the song. I love this one simply for Floor's beautiful solo lines "Beautifully shy as you are, Never lose your heart and do come across". So many beautiful slower and softer songs to chose from! "Sleeping Sun", "The Islander", "Deep Silent Complete", or maybe "Come Cover Me"?
Softer? Well, Marko sings While Your Lips Are Still Red at Wembley. It’s a slow song and just so beautiful! Also Alpenglow or My Walden, very positive songs both (at Wembley, too). It’s very difficult to choose between Romanticide and Ghost River. It depends so much on your mood. Maybe I listen to Romanticide a bit more.
Nice Reaction! If you want a softer song from Nightwish you should listen to Floor and Troy doing their song "Hows The Heart" Acoustic. They went to Planet Rock Studio and recorded it and listening to Floors voice with Troys guitar playing is incredible!
I'm repeating what others have said, Sleeping Sun is definitely an awesome choice for a future reaction. Ideally to versions from both Tarja and Floor, as they're all breathtaking.
For a softer side of Nightwish, you cannot go wrong with Elan or Sleeping Sun. The music video to Elan is very good, and of course Sleeping Sun is best experienced live with Floor.
Jukka the drummer said his favourite song to play is Nemo and his performance in this one shows that 😊 Sahara live at tamper is the one often overlooked by reactors
Choosing between the 2 songs is not easy; as they are both ones I really enjoy. But I think if I HAD to choose, I would pick Ghost River. But it was not an easy decision.
As I understand it, the river in this song represents the journey of life. But these two opposing/perfectly complementary voices remain a mystery to me, as it is impossible to understand which is the voice of reason and self-preservation and which is luring the children to their doom. Floor's voice can be both soothing and encouraging, but it can also sell false ideas of greatness on the other bank that await those brave enough to take risks, but with the real intention of drowning them. Marko seems to represent a demon who proclaims an inescapable danger, but at the same time it could also be a parent reading a scaretale to their children, warning them to stay away from all dangerous bodies of water. Tuomas, of course, just smiles and suggests that each listener could come up with their own explanation.
Hi Abbi your right this is a very very dark song not really what you expect from nightwish.Not sure if you liked this very much me i love it.Right Abbi you want something calmer you i am pretty sure you will like is Sleeping Sun beautiful song The guitarist is Emppu Vuorinen Drummer was Jukka Nevalainen back then.And loved your reaction Abbi as always❤
Next Nightwish suggestion: (If you want slow song) Setting Sun with Floor on vocals. OR I recommend " STORM" from Floor's solo album. Very positive song, with a poppy feel, as Floor's solo album was very much in the pop genre.
Not sure if applies to the context of this song, but in many songs Tuomas refers to himself as "Dead Boy". The pure and innocent young Tuomas no longer exists, therefor the pure innocent young Tuomas is dead --> Dead Boy. Sometimes he applies this same concept to adults in general --> dead children.
Different vibes? I suggest Sahara live at Tampa (oriental vibes) or a really soft one While your lips are still red at Wembley ( lovely) Amaranth live at Wacken (poppy fun) I want my tears back live at Buenos Aires ( folky dacing gig) or Shoemaker live at Hellfest ( on their YT channel whole concert) The last ride of the day (live official) The perfect ending of a show with positiv vibes!
To answer your question of preference: the wailing Banshee break-up of "Romanticide" thinly edges out the riffery and philosophy of "Ghost River" for this listener. Although if one reads into the lyrics, the prevailing emotion is dark in both of them, so darkness and light did not figure into the decision... There is always light in the distance (or just around the bend) with NIGHTWISH, though.
You like the back and forth then the song "Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean" live in Buenos Aries 2018 is the one for you. In the Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean this one Marco is the Devil trying to have his way with Floor The Mermaid but she's having none of it
It's a metaphor for not choosing the easy path in life. Floor's lyrics represents the hope and courage in life, and Marco's represents the pitfalls. I understand your reaction though, and you will find that most of their songs won't seem this dark. Can't wait for the next one!
If you would like a little softer side of Nightwish, Élan, is a song that always makes me happy hearing. And of course "The greatest show on earth" (prefer the Tampere version) but I do recommend that you save that for a while and do some other songs first since that one really lives up to it´s title and is the absolute Magnum Opus of Tuomas.
Always good to see Nightwish but still mystified that you have not checked out Epica, most people who like one like the other???? The recent Live performance of ‘Arcana’ dropped on YT would be a good introduction or if you cannot get enough of Floor you could do worse than check out Epica live ft Floor Jansen with ‘Sancta Terra’ from their retrospect concert. Two Symphonic Metal goddesses in a single song with a live orchestra and choir.
I like Ghost River more, it´s just a more mature look at life. Romanticide is from the album Once, which was the last album with Tarja, Ghost River is from Imaginaerum which was the second album with Anette and I think Tuomas was at a point in his life, where he started reflecting and thinking about getting older. A good example would be I Want my Tears Back. For the dark lyrics I found it helpful that I´m not a native english speaker. Therefore I´m able to see the voice as just another instrument, while if it would be in German, I would picking up some of the lyrics automatically.
Girl, it's a Horror Movie type of a song, like what do you imagine a GHOST River would be, surely a River full of Ghosts or The River is the Ghost feeding out of innocent children souls - Horror Theme, right 😁Marko plays the role of the evil and demon of the River - hence the dark words.. Floor plays the role of good side, the angel or the essence of good..
For more Marko/Floor vocals playing off each other, try Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean from Buenos Aries 2018. It's a classic. Meanwhile, from this Wacken concert, if you haven't done it already, Song Of Myself should be next.
Or, if you want something _completely_ different, try "Slow, Love, Slow" at the 2012 Montreux Jazz Festival. It's Nightwish, but rather unusual and very slow (like the title says :-). It's with their second singer Anette, and it's one of the songs she performed really well.
Marko tells it like it is, Floor lures you across the Ghost River anyway. Which one is bad? Neither! Live a little (while you can!)! Marko singing a "Pinhead" line from "Hellraiser" movie - "We'll show you such sights!" - well, Tuomas is a massive movie fan! The entire album, Imaginaerum, has a childlike, spooky Halloween feel to it - and the movie rocks with that vibe! Hear "Scaretale"!? Another vote for "Devil and The Deep Dark Ocean"! edit: if you want to slow things down - how about a Nightwish Jazz song with Anette? "Slow, Love, Slow" live at Montreaux, 2012 - th-cam.com/video/6k1jeJBocb8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ex5o1
Your comment about " are children singing in the background" You'd be surprised how many children's fairytales and songs have a very dark backstory/meaning. London Bridges, 3 Blind Mice, Rock A bye Baby, jack & Jill, etc.
Romanticide For me hopeful songs would be procession or music off of the Human Nature album. Look for the official videos. Try The Islander for Marco’s voice.
My opinion music should move you this is absolutely my favorite beck and call song Marco taking the deep dark backing to Floor's hopeful lead is special
Regarding the lyrics, Nightwish often has very deep lyrics, and they are being written by a person who's first language is Finnish, not English. There are two songs written by Tuomas that use the word " gR*pe" in them; and they have a distinct affect. I think for Tuomas he uses the word to describe mental defilement and mental anguish sometimes. which is of course totally different than how any english first speaking female will hear the word. So sometimes we have to not take the word quite so literal when it is used in a song, even though that goes against our instinct.
Also have you read the real Grimm Fairy Tales for kids ? Not the Disney sanitized versions but the unreal. Preternatural dark evil versions that make most of todays horror flicks look tame ? Lol 😂🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘thats what metals about
Ghost River everyday twice a day and if you want something softer with Floor at her best how's the heart acoustic from Planet Rock it's her and Troy and a acoustic guitar what's not to love
If you like Marko and Floor singing a more sweeter song try While your lips are still red. Now there is their video version of the song which i also advise to watch but that was made back when Anette was in the band. So maybe a double shot would be better since you get a different feel for the original verse the live which has Floor. Or is this request getting a bit greedy?.
It looks like you haven’t done Ghost Love Score yet according to your playlist? This is a must watch from this same concert. Not ‘guitar heavy’ and Floor is outstanding!
Dead Boy Poem Live In Buenos Aires 2018 - Decades Tour one of the most beautiful song from Nightwish : th-cam.com/video/S8E3L7ggLMM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1c8cwqC6Sd92lUUy
A small tip for NW songs. Never try to read the lyrics literally. The lyrics are almost always metaphores for a hidden meaning. And part of the fun in hearing NW songs for the first time is trying to figure out what the message is. I'm sure others have already explained the metaphores & the message in the comments here.
Softer song? Maybe you should really try "Sleeping Sun". This song is 25 years old, and there are various versions. I personally prefer the original 1999 music video version with Tarja, there's also a slightly different 2005 music video also with Tarja, and there's a 2005 live version with Tarja (from the "End of an Era" concert). There are various live versions with Floor, the most popular one probably being from the 2015 "Masters of Rock" festival. Take your pick :-)
This is about fears in life which may stop you moving on, if you only listen to them. Marco was painting all kind of horrific images what is lurking you in the river of life, if you dare to try to cross it. Floor how ever was representing your dreams, bravery and goal. Floor is trying to encourage you to overcome your fears, but she also tells that you will never get to her, if you don’t have the courage. Nightwish is often using the childrens voice to represent the inner child or innocense.
Well said!
I believe it's a metaphor for the river of life. Marco is all the negativity and doubt that keeps you from living your life whereas Floor is the optimism and positivity. We're all going to die, it's how you live your life that's important
That seems to be the consensus!
i would go the exact opposite. To me Marco is telling the truth and Floor is actually trying to lull you into crossing the river!! The beauty of nightwish you get what you want/need from a lot of the songs as Tuomas doesn't often provide his own guidance.
@@mnewm21 They are both telling you to cross the river (die) but it's how you live your life - optimistic or pessimistic - that matters. Are you going to be afraid of the risks and not "live" or will you go for it and live to the fullest
@@paulsheppard759 interesting I still see it as Marco warning and Floor enticing. It plays more truly to me that way then Floor being optimistic and Marco negative but maybe I have a more "romantic" viewpoint of the song than you.
@@mnewm21 Probably. My brain is more "logical" than "romantic" (ask my wife :( ) Still, since the end point of the journey is the same, would you rather be warned off of doing stuff or enticed into trying things. I'm not talking about recklessly doing stupid stuff, just things like I want to travel, but my "Marko's voice" is warning me to save my money for more practical things while Floor's would be encouraging me to be adventurous. I'm sure when I'm on my death bed I'll be wondering "what if" too much :(
If you want more back and forth - Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean
I would say DDDO takes it to another level. Cheers!
@@brewswillis9783 Agreed, plus she's going to love Floor's outfit in that concert
agreed!!!
Not really "Taking it down a bit" though 🤣
I Concur
Tuomas was quoted to say GR was "a duel between the Devil and Mother Gaia.".
Interesting take!
You gotta do Nightwish "Shudder Before the Beautiful" live from Wembley
I concur
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
I concur! Looking forward it.
That's one of my favourites!
Yes, I love this song! Floor's near acapella vocals in the last 3rd of the song gets me everytime. So haunting yet comforting!
Right?!
For something soft but beautiful you could try Sleeping Sun. Thomas wrote it about a solar eclipse.
Seems the popular choice!
@@Abigirl_Reacts Sleeping sun tugs at the heartstrings
There are good versions with Floor and with Tarja. The singing part right after the guitar solo is going to throw you off with either singer. So far you only heard Floor. This might be a good opportunity to compare the two, because it is a rather short song (5mins) - but don't judge who's better! 😀(I know you won't)
It's all metaphors and symbolism with most Nightwish stuff, very deep, very philosophical, about life, what we do with it, what we leave behind us with the ripples we leave in the river of life. Absolutely love this one, maybe just a fraction more than Romanticide, but there's nothing in it really. Maybe check out Floor and Troy performing an acoustic version of How's the Heart on Planet Rock, it's pretty special, so here's a link
th-cam.com/video/yYtkPpFYzOo/w-d-xo.htmlsi=lBNuKoYAPEB9OyxI
Yessss thank you so much for the link! This really helps ^_^
@Abigirl_Reacts no problem 👍
Haunting Floor caused instant floorgasm. Very good reaction again. Both "Romanticide" and "Ghost River" are ones of my favourites of Nightwish, but I like "Ghost River" a little more. You asked a little softer song after this, I would recommend song called "My Walden" from Tampere concert. Greetings from Finland.
Thanks for actually answering me and providing me with a suggestion too!
I love how Emppu talked about his part in the song....how he wasn't able to really find his path through it until he "Van Halen'd" the very opening to it, and then it just flowed. Because that opening riff is VERY Van Halen sounding in the tone. :)
Oh cool, I don't know van's music sadly to compare
You can say you are not understanding the song well without worries. Some of their songs do require some reading. I did wonder some time ago as well. It seemed as if there's two entities singing to the child. But I saw a post that explained it well and I hope it helps:
"Tuomas said in a interview with spazziorock that this song is framed around a battle between mother Gaia and the devil. These two entities represent the basic feelings of humans when they go through life. Gaia represents the feelings of happiness, hope, and love. This idea is amplified by the mysterious music around her voice when it is heard, alluring you to the many possibilities of life. The devil represents all of the sorrow we feel in our lives. His music is intense and frightening, making the listener uncomfortable while listening. He keeps telling the "child" that the two are fighting over to give up, that he will die a painful death. Notice that in the song they both yell "believe it! We live as we dream/scream! " at the same time, implying an internal battle within the child. Should he give up and not fight this battle, or should he push through the hard times (the river) and push forward onto the hope on the other side? Of course, the conclusion and message of the song is one that Tuomas would be expected to write; never give up. When Gaia tells the child "never lose your heart and do come across" she's saying never to give into the darks and evils in life, and to cross the river of hardships in order to achieve the happiness on the other side. We acknowledge that they exist, but we are to realize that fighting through them and experiencing them will lead us to truly appreciate the happy moments in life."
The way Floor and Marco go back and forth, the way Floor's enchanting voice overlaps with Marco's dark lines and his growls both fighting to influence the child. It is one of my favorite songs. :)
Great analysis! This is a top song for me too, I feel it’s under appreciated because it’s less complex musically than some of their others. But damn what a banger!
Thanks for taking the time to write your insightful comment! ^_^
You said you want to take it down. You know how some days every thing is going wrong you just in a bad mood? Three Nightwish songs guaranteed to lift your spirits are My Walden, Alpenglow, either of those from Tampere or Wembley and the third song I Want My Tears back from Buenos Aries 2018. No matter how bad your day is going listen to those three songs and you just can't help but feel better afterwards.
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
@@Abigirl_ReactsAbi, that person isn't wrong about I Want My Tears Back. You might end up dancing before it's over (wish I could dance with you). 🙄🙄🙄
Scottish Division...a river i would happily sit and watch forever.......dark and yet angelic ❤
Indeed!
@Abi: ok. Maybe... maybe a good one to start is Epica feat. Floor Jansen "Sancta Terra" live. You really need to have a look at them. Nightwish, Epica and Within Temptation are the big three of Symphonic Metal, you will love them all. Like your journey with Band Maid, Babymetal and Band Maid. Trust me. My favourite one you haven't seen yet. You are still at Wacken 😂.
Softer Nightwish? I would recommend "Dead Boys Poem" Buenos Aires live. But you will need tissues *lol*
Thanks for the warning about the tissues needed hehe
They compliment each other well. The whole band is epic
Yep! 💯
“Man, what a bad-ass concert.”
Amen to that, sister! A truly generational show. I’ve watched it start-to-finish numerous times, and still shake my head in amazement.
Don't you wish you could have been there?!
@@Abigirl_Reacts Still working on the time machine. When it’s working I’ll let you know.
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Standing by!
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Thank you so much abi for the reaction am gonna watch it now hope you have a lovely night thanks abi I appreciate your uploads
No problem 😊
Don't be afraid, because in every darkness, there is a bit of hope and beauty.
Well said!
Nightwish again, F* yeah 🤘😈🤘
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Hi Abi, greetings from UK
That was another great, honest reaction. Thank you x 😊
Thank you too!
It's the second time request the greatest show on earth live at tampere 2015
and I strongly suggest she reacts to the Wembly 2015 performance instead. Much better musically and visually. Tampere just has the home country crowd, and fireworks.
@@randomman4938 They're different, but IMO neither one is the best. Should hear both!
Oh boy, I need a tie breaker here lol
I _love_ the e-bow in the beginning of the Wembley-version. But yes: the show in Tampere is bigger. Maybe now you can decide for yourself 😀
@@jurgenlang4184 Agreed, the ebow is easy better than the wind instrument.
this song is about that river of life and sometimes it can take us places that some of us don't return from if you don't know to navigate and how sometimes others use that darkness to lure people to where they want them to go even though it isn't good for them
Well said
Great reaction! I believe this sonng is from Imaginaerum and Tuomas has said most songs on the album are about the positive aspects of life but to make them shine they need to be contrasted with some darkness. Ghost River does that on the album.
I believe you! ^_^
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Great reaction!
Thanks for watching ^_^
A song would love is "I want may tears back" from Buenos Aires, the crowd participation is amazing "last ride of the day"
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
@@Abigirl_Reacts Those songs are upbeat, and not as "dark" as ghost river. Though ghost river as a whole isn't very dark, though I will certainly concede, some of the lyrics do present that way, at least upon first listen.
My favourite of all will be Dead Boy's Poem live in Buenos Aires, most personal song for Tuomas I guess, well, Lanternlight from the last album also is very personal for him, I also think that the perfect one has to be Ghost Love Score and Greatest Show on Earth has to be their Mount Everest, but every song they make is a masterpiece, in my opinion I´d say their best ballads are While Your Lips are Still Red Live Wembley, Shoemaker (any version), Our Decades in the Sun, The Islander Live Tampere, Slow Love Slow (studio version) and Lanternlight, great reaction as always, keep rocking and stay safe!
All noted, ty!
I will second "Our Decades in the Sun", as it is criminally underrated and always relegated to the "waiting lists". It is the paean to the family, and moving in its sincerity. Also, "The Islander" (@Tampere), being the best ballad not written by Tuomas :) that I know to exist. The author at the guitar. :) Finally, yess, "Shoemaker" - although it is hardly a ballad in the classic sense, but the most touching tribute song to anyone who ever lived... On the first listen it hits you square, you CANNOT be prepared, so don't worry. :)) On ce you investigate into the meaning behind the words and the history details behind the scenes - it hits you harder. The song of the decade probably, as to its emotional impact.
Whenever you feel confused about Nightwish lyrics, remember one thing: you're probably trying to take it too literally as if it is a straightforward storytelling. Adjust your thinking to a collection of metaphorical references woven together into a larger allegory. It can take months to get an idea of how to decipher some of them. This song I still haven't completely figured out.
Its deep that's for sure!
Guitarrist is Emppu Vuorinen.
Erno Matti Juhani Vuorinen aka "Emppu"
Thank you!
When people analyze NIGHTWISH's songs, they talk about the dramatic tension, the songwriting prowess, the poetic arc, the vocals (duh!), whatnot. Here is the right occasion to talk about the riffs. THIS is the best guitar riff in NIGHTWISH history, that makes it such a pleasure to hear this song, every time! First time I heard it, I could hardly believe it was my beloved NIGHTWISH! (...well I guess that was a short and succinct talk!)
Overall "Ghost River", while being and sounding dark, is a debate over the course of humanity (to my mind). Some philosophers have said, the life is like a river - you cannot transcend the banks. and where you "flow" into the ocean, that is predestined. BUT, you can choose your course along the cliffs and currents of your own river. Will it be stormy? Will it be treacherous? Mild? It is your life. Also I would interpret that "Every eye sewn shut" could mean simply that everyone turns a blind eye to the evil and mistreatment among us... plus, the "leper children" are (or may be) any one of us - 'cause everyone is a child inside. Sometimes, a dead child, not able to perceive the wonder anymore. You will encounter this theme a lot in Tuomas' writing. Did you watch "Dead Boy's Poem"? One of their seminal songs.
As a last point(er), if you dig the dramatic "dialogue" between Marko and Floor, it is nowhere better, albeit more smoothly composed, than in their early song, "The Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean". There is a version with Tarja (Live not optimal, but studio most adequate, I think the vox are provided by Finnish growler Tapio Wilska on that version), and with Floor (Buenos Aires, 2019). If you are really intrigued, a comparison video might be in line. :)
Happy Holiday season! \m/
Happy holidays and Thanks for taking the time to write your insightful comment! ^_^
Hey gorgeous, surprise! I'm finally commenting on a reaction that is NOT The Warning.
I've listened to Nightwish for a number of years and have heard this song a hundred times, but I've missed you and wanted to see you with that super cute hairstyle.
Hope you're doing great.
Oh, and you wanted something softer. Listen to Sleeping Sun. That's VERY soft the entire way through, and quite beautiful (like yourself). 🙂🙂🙂
Thanks Joshua, sleeping sun seems to be the popular choice!
@Abigirl_Reacts My pleasure. It really is a hauntingly beautiful song, as lovely as you are.
In the album version Annette, who has a more poppy style of voice, sings the part Floor growls with a falsetto. We Live As We Dream/Scream.
Slow Love Slow is a jazzy sounding song (maybe my favorite song sung by Annette) this is it live at Montreux Jazz Festival, with Annette: th-cam.com/video/6k1jeJBocb8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=is1neqqH5vo3Ug2U
There is also a video of it cut from the movie Imaginarium the album is the soundtrack to: th-cam.com/video/BF1Wc-yP9nU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Ast7CXO_wpSEcKaI
Floor has also done it as part of her Solo Shows after Beste Zangers put her at the into the minds of far more of her fellow Dutch people: th-cam.com/video/bBG8GdyLYDk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4XhYW-UEJ96nZ7Mr
Interesting, thank you for the links!
Tuomas writes in metafores , makes you think :-) Greetings from NW army . Sweden
Got it, Thanks for watching ^_^
When I die, I am taking a DVD of this concert with me.
Good choice lol
Always look at Nightwish lyrics as métaphores. End of childhood innocence, life & death...let your imagination flow.
Indeed!
Life is full of dangers. You must face them if you want to live your life.
There are several dark NW songs, but all seem to contain a message of hope.
For me, this one beats Romanticide because I can relate to the message more in my experience.
My favourite "soft" songs are "While Your Lips Are Still Red" and "How's The Heart".
Thanks so much for answering me!
Romanticide, without a doubt. It's one of my all time favorites (though I do have quite a list of all time favorites). You know, so far you have seen Marko characterizing mainly the dark against Floor's light. If you want to see what his clean voice is like, and take it down a bit at the same time, I suggest that you take a look at Nightwish's cover of "High Hopes". No female singer at all. Marko takes the lead and all of the guys have a chance to really shine. Especially the guitarist, Emppu, who delivers a couple of absolutely stunning solos.
Thank you so much, should be interesting!
I like Romanticide a little more, but this is great too. Love when Floor comes in following the children's choir, almost acapella, and sounds so gorgeous.
She always does!
Elan is a song to consider that is softer as is Nemo, You should do a nightwish song a week. There's allot of diversity in their music. Elan is a great sone and totally different either the video or the live version from Buenos aries
I try to do one once a week but with all my artists in doing, lately it's more like once every 10 days or so
Life has its dark and its light sides. Nightwish always wants to encourage its listeners to make life positive - be it in deeds or thoughts. But Nightwish also wants to convey hope, courage, environmental awareness, etc. with their music and lyrics. In my opinion, you are doing a very good job. Nightwish lyrics are often not so easy to understand the first time you hear them and you need your time to understand the meaning and the message. Take your time, we also need it for new songs from our favorite band. Btw - we don't have to choose, because our favorite song from Nightwish is always the song we are just listening to.
Well said!
Always remember the sexual references are being used as metaphors. Marko and Floor are role playing in this one. Imagery of the dark and light. The Ghost River is a metaphor for the journey of life. Filled with all of the tragedy and triumph that life holds. Tuomas loves to write about lost innocence, thus the use of children's choirs. We all go down, but must fight to overcome. Another taste of Nightwish musical theater. Always keep in mind the message or story that drives the imagery and poetry of the song. I love this one simply for Floor's beautiful solo lines "Beautifully shy as you are, Never lose your heart and do come across".
So many beautiful slower and softer songs to chose from! "Sleeping Sun", "The Islander", "Deep Silent Complete", or maybe "Come Cover Me"?
I'm glad I misunderstood!
Softer? Well, Marko sings While Your Lips Are Still Red at Wembley. It’s a slow song and just so beautiful! Also Alpenglow or My Walden, very positive songs both (at Wembley, too). It’s very difficult to choose between Romanticide and Ghost River. It depends so much on your mood. Maybe I listen to Romanticide a bit more.
Yaaaaay thank you for choosing!
Nice Reaction! If you want a softer song from Nightwish you should listen to Floor and Troy doing their song "Hows The Heart" Acoustic. They went to Planet Rock Studio and recorded it and listening to Floors voice with Troys guitar playing is incredible!
I'll check it out!
I'm repeating what others have said, Sleeping Sun is definitely an awesome choice for a future reaction. Ideally to versions from both Tarja and Floor, as they're all breathtaking.
This one is highly requested!
This was good. I expect more Nightwish videos from you. Thank you.
I suspect more will be coming. But only because you expect it. 😅
Softer songs I recommend are, Sleeping Sun, Dead Boy's Poem, How's the Heart.
Noted, ty!
UK Army popping in for a dip in the ghost river.
How's the water?
@Abigirl_Reacts Dark and hot as hell 🤣
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🤗🍒🤘🏻😘and Abi again well done
Thanks again!
For a softer side of Nightwish, you cannot go wrong with Elan or Sleeping Sun. The music video to Elan is very good, and of course Sleeping Sun is best experienced live with Floor.
Sleeping sun is a popular request!
Jukka the drummer said his favourite song to play is Nemo and his performance in this one shows that 😊
Sahara live at tamper is the one often overlooked by reactors
Thanks for the suggestion! ^_^
Choosing between the 2 songs is not easy; as they are both ones I really enjoy. But I think if I HAD to choose, I would pick Ghost River. But it was not an easy decision.
Hey, at least you chose!
As I understand it, the river in this song represents the journey of life. But these two opposing/perfectly complementary voices remain a mystery to me, as it is impossible to understand which is the voice of reason and self-preservation and which is luring the children to their doom. Floor's voice can be both soothing and encouraging, but it can also sell false ideas of greatness on the other bank that await those brave enough to take risks, but with the real intention of drowning them. Marko seems to represent a demon who proclaims an inescapable danger, but at the same time it could also be a parent reading a scaretale to their children, warning them to stay away from all dangerous bodies of water. Tuomas, of course, just smiles and suggests that each listener could come up with their own explanation.
I love your take on this!
It’s Ghost River for me
Cool, how come?
Sleeping sun is a beautiful balled❤
Is it sleeping or setting sun?
@@Abigirl_Reacts Sleeping sun
Hi Abbi your right this is a very very dark song not really what you expect from nightwish.Not sure if you liked this very much me i love it.Right Abbi you want something calmer you i am pretty sure you will like is Sleeping Sun beautiful song The guitarist is Emppu Vuorinen Drummer was Jukka Nevalainen back then.And loved your reaction Abbi as always❤
I'll check it out! Thank you!
Hi there,Romantecide is also about suïcide and romance,ghost river is my fav❤
Oh gosh I didn't get that at all with Romanticide!
@ the title says it all🙃romance-suïcide….romanticide
I get it now of course haha
@ hi,i didnt mean this in a bad way,youre a smart woman✅🙃
Next Nightwish suggestion: (If you want slow song) Setting Sun with Floor on vocals. OR I recommend " STORM" from Floor's solo album. Very positive song, with a poppy feel, as Floor's solo album was very much in the pop genre.
Thanks for the suggestion! ^_^
Great song!!
It was!
Something slow... 🤔 "Sleeping Sun", or "Walking in the Air", a Nightwish version of the song written for the animate film "the Snowman".
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
" Music " or " Hows the Heart - both versions
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
Not sure if applies to the context of this song, but in many songs Tuomas refers to himself as "Dead Boy". The pure and innocent young Tuomas no longer exists, therefor the pure innocent young Tuomas is dead --> Dead Boy. Sometimes he applies this same concept to adults in general --> dead children.
The poor children!
If you're staying at this concert it's worth listening to Song of Myself for some interesting changes.
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
Different vibes?
I suggest Sahara live at Tampa (oriental vibes) or a really soft one
While your lips are still red at Wembley ( lovely)
Amaranth live at Wacken (poppy fun)
I want my tears back live at Buenos Aires ( folky dacing gig) or
Shoemaker live at Hellfest ( on their YT channel whole concert)
The last ride of the day (live official) The perfect ending of a show with positiv vibes!
Thanks for the suggestions! ^_^
To answer your question of preference: the wailing Banshee break-up of "Romanticide" thinly edges out the riffery and philosophy of "Ghost River" for this listener. Although if one reads into the lyrics, the prevailing emotion is dark in both of them, so darkness and light did not figure into the decision... There is always light in the distance (or just around the bend) with NIGHTWISH, though.
I'm starting to see that!
You like the back and forth then the song "Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean" live in Buenos Aries 2018 is the one for you. In the Devil in the Deep Dark Ocean this one Marco is the Devil trying to have his way with Floor The Mermaid but she's having none of it
Interesting! Noted, ty
Very good reaction. Tuomas's lyrics are sometimes dark and difficult to understand correctly but the message is usually positive.
Thanks for the info!
A good change of pace from this one would be My Walden, lIve at Tampere. A feel good vibe that will be a good Ghost River cleanse....lol.
Might be needed at this point haha thanks!
It's a metaphor for not choosing the easy path in life. Floor's lyrics represents the hope and courage in life, and Marco's represents the pitfalls. I understand your reaction though, and you will find that most of their songs won't seem this dark. Can't wait for the next one!
Oh thank goodness I misunderstood LOL
If you would like a little softer side of Nightwish, Élan, is a song that always makes me happy hearing. And of course "The greatest show on earth" (prefer the Tampere version) but I do recommend that you save that for a while and do some other songs first since that one really lives up to it´s title and is the absolute Magnum Opus of Tuomas.
Magnum opus
Always good to see Nightwish but still mystified that you have not checked out Epica, most people who like one like the other???? The recent Live performance of ‘Arcana’ dropped on YT would be a good introduction or if you cannot get enough of Floor you could do worse than check out Epica live ft Floor Jansen with ‘Sancta Terra’ from their retrospect concert. Two Symphonic Metal goddesses in a single song with a live orchestra and choir.
Definitely gotta check out Epica
Sounds awesome, thanks!
I like Ghost River more, it´s just a more mature look at life. Romanticide is from the album Once, which was the last album with Tarja, Ghost River is from Imaginaerum which was the second album with Anette and I think Tuomas was at a point in his life, where he started reflecting and thinking about getting older. A good example would be I Want my Tears Back. For the dark lyrics I found it helpful that I´m not a native english speaker. Therefore I´m able to see the voice as just another instrument, while if it would be in German, I would picking up some of the lyrics automatically.
Thanks for answering my question!
Girl, it's a Horror Movie type of a song, like what do you imagine a GHOST River would be, surely a River full of Ghosts or The River is the Ghost feeding out of innocent children souls - Horror Theme, right 😁Marko plays the role of the evil and demon of the River - hence the dark words.. Floor plays the role of good side, the angel or the essence of good..
Very fitting roles!
For more Marko/Floor vocals playing off each other, try Devil And The Deep Dark Ocean from Buenos Aries 2018. It's a classic. Meanwhile, from this Wacken concert, if you haven't done it already, Song Of Myself should be next.
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
Or, if you want something _completely_ different, try "Slow, Love, Slow" at the 2012 Montreux Jazz Festival. It's Nightwish, but rather unusual and very slow (like the title says :-). It's with their second singer Anette, and it's one of the songs she performed really well.
Tysm, added!
Thanks
Thanks for watching ^_^
Marko tells it like it is, Floor lures you across the Ghost River anyway. Which one is bad? Neither! Live a little (while you can!)! Marko singing a "Pinhead" line from "Hellraiser" movie - "We'll show you such sights!" - well, Tuomas is a massive movie fan! The entire album, Imaginaerum, has a childlike, spooky Halloween feel to it - and the movie rocks with that vibe! Hear "Scaretale"!? Another vote for "Devil and The Deep Dark Ocean"! edit: if you want to slow things down - how about a Nightwish Jazz song with Anette? "Slow, Love, Slow" live at Montreaux, 2012 - th-cam.com/video/6k1jeJBocb8/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=ex5o1
Added, thanks a bunch! ^_^
@@Abigirl_Reacts thank you in advance. Anette was not always at her best live but she did have her shining moments - I think Montreux was one of them!
It is sort of good and evil thing. Marco is the dark side of life where as Floor is the light.🤘🎸
I see that now!
Good one. People say you'll like this or that lol I'll be surprised if you find something you don't like from Wacken or Nightwish in general.
Me too honestly
Your comment about " are children singing in the background" You'd be surprised how many children's fairytales and songs have a very dark backstory/meaning. London Bridges, 3 Blind Mice, Rock A bye Baby, jack & Jill, etc.
The poor children!
If you Love Nightwish, you love Epica. Ghost in Me would be a good start to your Epica journey
Thanks for the suggestion! ^_^
Romanticide
For me hopeful songs would be procession or music off of the Human Nature album. Look for the official videos.
Try The Islander for Marco’s voice.
I will, thank you!
My opinion music should move you this is absolutely my favorite beck and call song Marco taking the deep dark backing to Floor's hopeful lead is special
Agreed, it should move you ^_^
If you like more back and forth: Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean (Live at Buenos Aires 2018).
Thanks!
Regarding the lyrics, Nightwish often has very deep lyrics, and they are being written by a person who's first language is Finnish, not English. There are two songs written by Tuomas that use the word " gR*pe" in them; and they have a distinct affect. I think for Tuomas he uses the word to describe mental defilement and mental anguish sometimes. which is of course totally different than how any english first speaking female will hear the word. So sometimes we have to not take the word quite so literal when it is used in a song, even though that goes against our instinct.
I'm glad I misunderstood haha
Thx abi...please listen Cadaveria-the dream,Orphan Hate-circus and Nightwish-devil and deep dark....big hug
Thanks for the suggestion! ^_^
Devil and the Deep Dark Ocean or 7 Days to the Wolves next both have a good harmony and a back and forth between Marco and Floor
Got it, noted! Tysm
Also have you read the real Grimm Fairy Tales for kids ?
Not the Disney sanitized versions but the unreal. Preternatural dark evil versions that make most of todays horror flicks look tame ? Lol 😂🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘thats what metals about
Oh my, I haven't!
Ghost River everyday twice a day and if you want something softer with Floor at her best how's the heart acoustic from Planet Rock it's her and Troy and a acoustic guitar what's not to love
Sounds amazing 👏
Three other softer songs are Sleeping Sun, Dead Boys poem and while your lips are still red that last one being Marco
If you like Marko and Floor singing a more sweeter song try While your lips are still red. Now there is their video version of the song which i also advise to watch but that was made back when Anette was in the band. So maybe a double shot would be better since you get a different feel for the original verse the live which has Floor. Or is this request getting a bit greedy?.
You can suggest anything, I'll check it out! Thanks
@Abigirl_Reacts Thank you
Told you it's a darker song, and hey, you have Falling in Reverse on the background.. :D
Falling in reverse is my absolute favorite!
No darker than a lot of nursery rhymes. That's basically what this song is.
Basically
It looks like you haven’t done Ghost Love Score yet according to your playlist? This is a must watch from this same concert. Not ‘guitar heavy’ and Floor is outstanding!
Like pretty much every reactor it's the first Nightwish song she did🫡
Ghost Love Score was the first reaction it’s just not in the playlist.
Thanks for the heads up, I'll add it!
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Dead Boy Poem Live In Buenos Aires 2018 - Decades Tour one of the most beautiful song from Nightwish : th-cam.com/video/S8E3L7ggLMM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1c8cwqC6Sd92lUUy
Thanks for the link!
if you like the back and forth check out them doing devil and the deep dark ocean
Thanks I will!
I'd like to recommend High Hopes and Walking in the Air. Walking in the Air fills your "Softer", request.
Perfect, thanks!
In addition to what others have explained well, you probably need to know that Tuomas poetically views himself as a child that died.
That's interesting
Ghost River
Yes
A small tip for NW songs. Never try to read the lyrics literally. The lyrics are almost always metaphores for a hidden meaning. And part of the fun in hearing NW songs for the first time is trying to figure out what the message is. I'm sure others have already explained the metaphores & the message in the comments here.
Yes thank goodness I misunderstood lmao
"Weak Fantasy" Live tampere
Thanks for the suggestion! ^_^
Softer song? Maybe you should really try "Sleeping Sun". This song is 25 years old, and there are various versions. I personally prefer the original 1999 music video version with Tarja, there's also a slightly different 2005 music video also with Tarja, and there's a 2005 live version with Tarja (from the "End of an Era" concert). There are various live versions with Floor, the most popular one probably being from the 2015 "Masters of Rock" festival. Take your pick :-)
This is a common consensus so far