If you could cut the front sight off the m4 it would be a tier. Super easy to find, easy to find ammo, lots of rails, fast fire rate, not a super long barrel so it's nice for close range and it accepts drums
Honestly, folding the stocks on the 74-U and dual wielding them is just fun to do, and surprisingly devastating in qcq, even with just one It’s fun to rng with it around research. But great list! I’ll definitely look into it!
You can put an ak sight rail on the L80’s front rail and use it as a riser to use a scope. I’ve done it and it works great. I also find it funny that he doesn’t realize 9x39 is bigger than 7.62x39
Lot of people that don't shoot guns irl wouldn't know about things like that. Intuitively you'd think 7.62 is larger because it's shot from larger guns lol
@@bond1626 Not really, the 9x39 is literally a 7.62 case widened to fit a 9mm bullet (Same diameter as 9x19 but a lot longer and heavier). The reason it has lower recoil than 7.62x39 is because it's subsonic (so it works best with the integral suppressor), it's really moving at about the same speed as a .45 ACP. So even though it's bigger and heavier it's got a lot less power behind it, so it has less recoil :) (PS I know too much info about irl guns lol)
As-Val caliber was designed to penetrate armor. Just because you see the 9 at the front don’t underestimate the caliber. I’m not sure as far as tabor goes for realism tho so in that regard you most definitely could have been correct! Love the content!
5.45 and also 5.56 are better at armor penetration then a 7.62/308 round (irl anyway). The USSR specifically made 5.45 for better armor penetration then the standard 7.62 at the time
@@OutlawK20that's a bit wrong. The reason for the switch to 5.45 wasn't armor pen, it's was muzzle velocity, effective distance, and overall weight. While true the modern loading used in 5.45 were better than 7.62, modern 7.62 rounds still can penetrate about the same to a certain extent. The biggest problem with 7.62 is the fast drop off due to how little powder they can get in that cartridge.
I argue with the placement of the sks just cause it’s unlockable immediately and 7.62x39 is just hell of a round, and that its iron sights aren’t even bad so it’s usable on island
people not knowing that you can make the famas full auto (which shreds through armor as good if not better than an Ak alfa and close to the boss sks) makes me sad and mad
The Aug is my just for fun gun, and the Famas has an insane rate of fire, it’s easy to point fire and maneuver, and is actually pretty fun to use. Neither are my first choice but I have played many rounds with the Aug and it’s a blast
Mac-10 is such a good Silo-rat gun. I’ve killed double duos ratting with a Mac-10 + spare mags (sitting on the desk to the left in Office that’s concealed by the wood barrier and waiting for them to push)
I like that everyone has their favorite gun , it would be dope if/when they open that crafting room , you’d be able to customize your guns with not just colors but like customizing them down to like being able to draw on them and take them in raid
I haven't finished the video yet But what I do have to say is that 545 is a round not to sneeze at. The ak74 and 74u are higher ranked for me but not much higher, I definitely see your point and semi agree but they both have high rate of fire and are VERY cheap to purchase making these weapons highly accessible kind like real life. The Glock ad 5.7 are A-S just for accessibility and the ability for lasers/flashlights doesn't do them wrong with almost no recoil. Other than these I think I agree with everything else.
M16 is A tier for the sole reason that if you find one with no gear you can dish out some pretty good damage even without an optic, it’s basically an M4. (Yes the iron sights suck just be better)
Glock deserves A tier, when I’m in a pinch it’s always helped me, even helped me kill boss when I ran out of ammo, I even find myself killing guards with it since they have no face protection and can get put down with ease, glock needs more respect 😤
9x39 isnt a pistol round, its actually bigger than a 7.62x39. All that was done to make the 9x39 was neck up the cartridge to fit a 9mm cal bullet, and a big one at that. The heavier weight from the same powder charge carries the same energy as a 7.62, but its subsonic, therefore lower penetration.
I had a luty on a naked run and I killed a guy who was kitted(he had tier 4 armor and helmet) out with the luty you have to admit the luty has that clutch
The L85A2 needs to be updated as in the carrying handle I’m in the military and we don’t use that we have actual sights on it instead of the crap handle
this is false, unless the stats on the wiki are fake. Statistically in terms of dps the m4 outclasses most of the assault rifles. I would also say putting VSS and AS VAL outside of S tier when they have the best DPS outside of the 7.62 x 51 ARs is unfair given that it's based off how obtainable the mags are and all the guns in S tier are locked behind high trader levels and/or high prices. Also worth noting boss guards will always spawn with VSS 30 rounders if the have the gun (from what I've seen).
I have killed then entire krtek bot boss squad with one drum mag leaded stoner 63 I got on the second day of playing this game. That gun is immortalized in my mind as an A tier gun. I wish you could put more than a silencer on it though 😔
Great video. Glad to see the wiki get used. Stop by discord if you have any questions. Some notes - commenters are wrong about luty. old luty values were inaccurate for some time. It's a crap weapon. 9x18mm tracer damage is a bug or oversight. Luckily another bug prevents speed loading bizon mag. You would have ak74 damage in a smg package. SG552 values need to be redone. They are way off from similar guns.
are any of the other ARs innaccurate? Bc these stats would have the VSS As VAL, m4, and the 7.62 x 51 guns completely outclassing all the other ARs in the game.
Should be accurate. How are judging them? 7.62x51mm is a full size cartridge while the rest are intermediate cartridges. It should out damage the rest. Galil is arguably better than M4 except in very close range when you need the ROF. The two 9x39mm are underrated by the community when looking at the numbers. Good damage. Good ROF. 1 rail on VSS and 4 rails on AS VAL. Good penetration. M4 and Galil are meta because they are cheap, have many rails, have high capacity mags available, easy to manage recoil with a foregrip, and are often dropped or found in crates as loot. @@kmn9568
In my very first run in the game somehow I just missed a fully kitted player leaving prison and I didn’t even notice so I just bumbled in and found 2 modded AK alphas
Haven't played much so don't have much experience, but so far it seems if you can get within pistol range with the MAC-10, it fires so incredibly fast it just straight up deletes whatever is in front of you lol
the mp40 is only good for starting the smg missions on a naked run if you found one i buy them st just to run to silo and texas relode them after rushing a spawn. a meme gun like the looty but more control and amo so you can suprise kited players and sprey them blind around a corner to get theyre stuf overall low D bc it is also decend quiet for a smg
Any last update of ghosts of Tabor Quest the M16 became insanely overpowered I can destroy people easily with the M16 even with the Enemy with level 3 armor somehow I could still destroy him so I think it got better in the last update and oh yeah I agree with most of the guns by him and keep up the good work
D D D D Draco Nation! Since the draco is obviously the best gun in the game, it startled me when you unexpectedly put it in C tier. We see this as an accident and therefore will not act upon it. If this kind of behavior continues we will have to discuss terms. D D D D Draco Nation out!
As Val is S tier u say it has reasonably good recoil and shoots reasonably fast? It has insanely little recoil and shoots faster than 99% of guns idk why u were hyping it down so much smh Val 4 Lyfe
Especially with the built in suppressor, the val costs like 11k but a rifle suppressor costs like 20k. Suppressors are literally a requirement on island so it’s just hella useful for that too
Tan I got a question wondering if you could help me I lose tracking aiming down the gold sks when it has a grip on it but I don’t lose tracking with the regular sks I’m on quest 2 and it only loses tracking with the gold sks if you know a fix or smt that could help I’d appreciate it a lot
Tan ... the 9x39 isn't a pistol round its a rifle round and its a chunky boii.. I find it disturbing how little youtube people know about guns ... I mean come on Google it if you dont know 45 seconds of Google will save you from triggering every gun guy on here.. plz tan gun facts are important 🙏 I don't want these kids to grow up thinking the 9x39 is a small pistol round.. their friends will make fun of them😂
Tanvarian “7.62 x 39 is just massive insane damage and penetration” “yeah I mean it’s shooting 9 x 39 those smaller rounds just aren’t doing as much” tan bro, 9 x 39 is literally 7.62 x 39 but bigger 😂
It's kind of funny how 545 has less penetration than 762 even though 545 in real life is a higher velocity smaller bullet with should penetrate armor better in theory
I kinda am new to tabor but still I have a luty and no armor nothign and I killed someone with the ak alpha nd top tier armor and bag the ak was fullly kitted
9x39 is NOT a small round lmfao. it's bigger than the 7.62x39, the first number is the diameter of the bullet, 2nd number is the length of the casing. so it's a 9mm round using the same casing as an AK versus a 7.62mm round. man, bro got so many calibers mixed up. also i can't wait until they put picatinny adapters for all the carry handle weapons
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Nah, BAR is high B. Watch my vids of me using it. Kitted players gone like a father
LUTY has some of the highest smg damage. It’s just the recoil and lack of sighting that makes it so overheated, like the Makarov.
Truu
Wym by overheated?
@@Cashmere_Gamingi think he misspelled overhated
Yep.@@lelanserum420
Fr it’s hard to aim with it
I think the Glock needs a better rating being it has drum mags and a bottom rail for lasers and lights (or fore-grips for a meme build)
Also. the regular 30 round 9mm vector magazines fit, so you could opt for a less rare/expensive extebded mag for your glock.
we need a boss with a luty that has a longer barrel, reduced bullet spread because of the barrel and a 200 rnd drum
That boss would kill everyone though.
If you could cut the front sight off the m4 it would be a tier. Super easy to find, easy to find ammo, lots of rails, fast fire rate, not a super long barrel so it's nice for close range and it accepts drums
Honestly, folding the stocks on the 74-U and dual wielding them is just fun to do, and surprisingly devastating in qcq, even with just one It’s fun to rng with it around research. But great list! I’ll definitely look into it!
You can put an ak sight rail on the L80’s front rail and use it as a riser to use a scope. I’ve done it and it works great. I also find it funny that he doesn’t realize 9x39 is bigger than 7.62x39
Lot of people that don't shoot guns irl wouldn't know about things like that. Intuitively you'd think 7.62 is larger because it's shot from larger guns lol
@@koolkiller357.62 is a larger cartridge with smaller bullet
@@bond1626 correct I just looked at the difference and it’s very tiny
Good to know!
@@bond1626 Not really, the 9x39 is literally a 7.62 case widened to fit a 9mm bullet (Same diameter as 9x19 but a lot longer and heavier). The reason it has lower recoil than 7.62x39 is because it's subsonic (so it works best with the integral suppressor), it's really moving at about the same speed as a .45 ACP. So even though it's bigger and heavier it's got a lot less power behind it, so it has less recoil :) (PS I know too much info about irl guns lol)
As-Val caliber was designed to penetrate armor. Just because you see the 9 at the front don’t underestimate the caliber. I’m not sure as far as tabor goes for realism tho so in that regard you most definitely could have been correct! Love the content!
Very true!
5.45 and also 5.56 are better at armor penetration then a 7.62/308 round (irl anyway). The USSR specifically made 5.45 for better armor penetration then the standard 7.62 at the time
@@OutlawK20that's a bit wrong. The reason for the switch to 5.45 wasn't armor pen, it's was muzzle velocity, effective distance, and overall weight. While true the modern loading used in 5.45 were better than 7.62, modern 7.62 rounds still can penetrate about the same to a certain extent. The biggest problem with 7.62 is the fast drop off due to how little powder they can get in that cartridge.
@@BombShotthink about it for a minute bud, the whole time you were disagreeing, you proved his point.
@@itsdabeesthat’s why he said “ a *bit* wrong” he meant that the guy was slightly off, but still accurate
I argue with the placement of the sks just cause it’s unlockable immediately and 7.62x39 is just hell of a round, and that its iron sights aren’t even bad so it’s usable on island
Agreed!
I actually really like the AUG it does a lot of damage and if u put a silencer on it it becomes a beast
I've found 2, and ran it twice. Havent died with one yet
nice!
Really it does?
The mp9 is cost efficient for what it brings. A grip already, a side rail, a sight rail, and a collapsible stock
Agreed!
people not knowing that you can make the famas full auto (which shreds through armor as good if not better than an Ak alfa and close to the boss sks) makes me sad and mad
31:45 the PPSH definitely does NOT shoot 7.62 x 39 it shoots 7.62 x 25 basically a pistol cartridge
You're right
Something to note that lighter caliber weapons(like ak74) tend to have lower recoil than the larger/standard version
WE NEEDED THIS!!!!
The Aug is my just for fun gun, and the Famas has an insane rate of fire, it’s easy to point fire and maneuver, and is actually pretty fun to use. Neither are my first choice but I have played many rounds with the Aug and it’s a blast
Nice! I need to take the aug out a few more times
Mac-10 is such a good Silo-rat gun. I’ve killed double duos ratting with a Mac-10 + spare mags (sitting on the desk to the left in Office that’s concealed by the wood barrier and waiting for them to push)
I like that everyone has their favorite gun , it would be dope if/when they open that crafting room , you’d be able to customize your guns with not just colors but like customizing them down to like being able to draw on them and take them in raid
Oooh THat would be interesting
@@Tanvarian i think it’ll make everything unique. Will you be playing their other game as well? “grim”
Another insane video❤🔥🧈🧈
Yes thank you Tan ur the man I've been wanting something like this to put it into perspective
I haven't finished the video yet But what I do have to say is that 545 is a round not to sneeze at. The ak74 and 74u are higher ranked for me but not much higher, I definitely see your point and semi agree but they both have high rate of fire and are VERY cheap to purchase making these weapons highly accessible kind like real life. The Glock ad 5.7 are A-S just for accessibility and the ability for lasers/flashlights doesn't do them wrong with almost no recoil. Other than these I think I agree with everything else.
You're, it's nothing to sneeze at!
M16 is A tier for the sole reason that if you find one with no gear you can dish out some pretty good damage even without an optic, it’s basically an M4. (Yes the iron sights suck just be better)
Glock deserves A tier, when I’m in a pinch it’s always helped me, even helped me kill boss when I ran out of ammo, I even find myself killing guards with it since they have no face protection and can get put down with ease, glock needs more respect 😤
It is a good pistol!
I agree it is criminal to say that TT is better than the glock
Fire video man, been watchiin some of your vids.
Bruh said the ppsh fires 7.62x39
THE FAMAS can take the 150 drum. its like a ppsh but can have a suppressor and can actually pen mid armor
Where am i on this list?
F for fun tier
9x39 isnt a pistol round, its actually bigger than a 7.62x39. All that was done to make the 9x39 was neck up the cartridge to fit a 9mm cal bullet, and a big one at that. The heavier weight from the same powder charge carries the same energy as a 7.62, but its subsonic, therefore lower penetration.
Truu
I have been waiting for this video since the game released thank you good sir.
You bet
I had a luty on a naked run and I killed a guy who was kitted(he had tier 4 armor and helmet) out with the luty you have to admit the luty has that clutch
NICE
Dude just last week you had like 2.5k subs, now you’re over 8k!! Keep up the good work Tan!
Thanks Yoshim ^-^
The L85A2 needs to be updated as in the carrying handle I’m in the military and we don’t use that we have actual sights on it instead of the crap handle
Would be so much better
AK-74U is one of the best guns. Either sniper, medium range, close range. Very good.
The G 36K has fire rate fast enough to compete with AK, alpha DPS, and in my opinion, the recoils is your to control it goes in between A and s
I'll need to play with it more!
this is false, unless the stats on the wiki are fake. Statistically in terms of dps the m4 outclasses most of the assault rifles. I would also say putting VSS and AS VAL outside of S tier when they have the best DPS outside of the 7.62 x 51 ARs is unfair given that it's based off how obtainable the mags are and all the guns in S tier are locked behind high trader levels and/or high prices. Also worth noting boss guards will always spawn with VSS 30 rounders if the have the gun (from what I've seen).
I have killed then entire krtek bot boss squad with one drum mag leaded stoner 63 I got on the second day of playing this game. That gun is immortalized in my mind as an A tier gun. I wish you could put more than a silencer on it though 😔
It is super good!
Great video. Glad to see the wiki get used. Stop by discord if you have any questions. Some notes - commenters are wrong about luty. old luty values were inaccurate for some time. It's a crap weapon. 9x18mm tracer damage is a bug or oversight. Luckily another bug prevents speed loading bizon mag. You would have ak74 damage in a smg package. SG552 values need to be redone. They are way off from similar guns.
Yo! Thanks for having lots of details and stats I could use! I'll definitely come by when I have questions.
are any of the other ARs innaccurate? Bc these stats would have the VSS As VAL, m4, and the 7.62 x 51 guns completely outclassing all the other ARs in the game.
Should be accurate. How are judging them? 7.62x51mm is a full size cartridge while the rest are intermediate cartridges. It should out damage the rest. Galil is arguably better than M4 except in very close range when you need the ROF. The two 9x39mm are underrated by the community when looking at the numbers. Good damage. Good ROF. 1 rail on VSS and 4 rails on AS VAL. Good penetration. M4 and Galil are meta because they are cheap, have many rails, have high capacity mags available, easy to manage recoil with a foregrip, and are often dropped or found in crates as loot. @@kmn9568
556 is an intermediate around and almost every gun that uses uses it shreds so 556 is not weaker
In my very first run in the game somehow I just missed a fully kitted player leaving prison and I didn’t even notice so I just bumbled in and found 2 modded AK alphas
NICE
Haven't played much so don't have much experience, but so far it seems if you can get within pistol range with the MAC-10, it fires so incredibly fast it just straight up deletes whatever is in front of you lol
LOL seems strong!
the mp40 is only good for starting the smg missions on a naked run if you found one
i buy them st just to run to silo and texas relode them after rushing a spawn. a meme gun like the looty but more control and amo so you can suprise kited players and sprey them blind around a corner to get theyre stuf
overall low D bc it is also decend quiet for a smg
Agreed!
I have a defence for the Luty, I killed a fully kitted guy with an AK-Alpha and got 4 drummies with it
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Any last update of ghosts of Tabor Quest the M16 became insanely overpowered I can destroy people easily with the M16 even with the Enemy with level 3 armor somehow I could still destroy him so I think it got better in the last update and oh yeah I agree with most of the guns by him and keep up the good work
Tan the man
Yeee
Thank you so much for putting the AUG at D tier
I meant E
I've only ever used the ppsh once and only found it twice, the time i used it i shredded the lobby and the boss.
Yusss
D D D D Draco Nation! Since the draco is obviously the best gun in the game, it startled me when you unexpectedly put it in C tier. We see this as an accident and therefore will not act upon it. If this kind of behavior continues we will have to discuss terms. D D D D Draco Nation out!
:D
The 74 is my go-to gun for casual raiding with mid-tier loot.
Nice!
This was such a fun stream. Yappin streams always are
Thank you….this is what I need to buss.
Wow this was helpful
31:50 The PPSH doesn't shoot 7.62x39mm it shoots 7.62x25mm.
You're right ^-^
I hate tarkov games but the amount of guns and more detail than the generic vr shooter will keep me around lol
I would love to see your opinion on the DLC guns aswell.
Agreed, we need to remake this
great vid tan! this was super fun to watch, although i would put the ak alpha a bit higher.
Damn the state of the SG is crazy considering irl it's a very very nice rifle.
Agreed
You gotta hold the p90 like a pistol not a normal primary
Makes sense
@@Tanvarian hah I learned that from playing a lot of Pavlov lol
i LOVE the agram and i have gotten some crazy kills with it. i had one mag and killed a two stack and 3 fenixes with one mag.
Nicee
Man didn't even see chat correcting him about the PPSH ammo type
How up to date is this list?
It's missing the new guns, tier list is solid still.
@@Tanvarian amazing ty!
@@Tanvarian What rough rankings would you give the new guns out of interest?
Gonna have to update this.
Agreed!
PPSH is wicked I killed a 2 stack in like 2-3 seconds
Yuss its so good
@@Tanvarian fax
As Val is S tier u say it has reasonably good recoil and shoots reasonably fast? It has insanely little recoil and shoots faster than 99% of guns idk why u were hyping it down so much smh Val 4 Lyfe
Especially with the built in suppressor, the val costs like 11k but a rifle suppressor costs like 20k. Suppressors are literally a requirement on island so it’s just hella useful for that too
As val is the sexy older sister of the vss vintorez
Good recoil means little recoil ^-^
Bizon is more fun but ppsh is also cool. In my opinion use your favorite gun
Any of these guns with armor piercing rounds changes everything.
Check the wiki, even AP 9.18 only pierces through tier one armor.
The bison shreds bosses just shot their kness
Great! Now add the 59081
Yesss
Tan I got a question wondering if you could help me I lose tracking aiming down the gold sks when it has a grip on it but I don’t lose tracking with the regular sks I’m on quest 2 and it only loses tracking with the gold sks if you know a fix or smt that could help I’d appreciate it a lot
Might be your mags on your chest not being seated properly, causing the gun to pounce off them.
@@Tanvarian thanks
Your my favorite streamer
Suppose I Should Get This Game Started As Its Been Sittin In My Library For a Few Weeks Now
It's damn fun.
@@Tanvarian If You Kill Me In This... I'll Haunt You When Your Having a Dump Hahaha
When ranking the ppsh you where looking at 7.62x39 not x25 the ppsh pierces 1 and 2 and sometimes 3 with AP and 1 sometimes 2 with FMJ
Ok but the M1A sass is over 5 times the price of the G3A3 so for that reason i would put the G3 over it but that's gust me
Me personally i like the 74 u over the ak 74 because the iron sights which are some of the best in the game
Crazy how 5.45x39 does worse against armor. Real life muzzle velocity is way faster than 7.62x39.
can i add the HUNTER 85 shoots 7.62x51 for some reason
tan where is my spotlight - Lucifer
LUCIFER SPOTLIGHT
I would change a couple things but good vid Like the Ssg552 has incredible rpm and the Al alpha should be s ngl
I heard you say you couldn’t put foregrip on asval? You can?
You can :D
The Makarov has some of the most damage in pistols, too, though.
Yes!
iron sights tho
Tan ... the 9x39 isn't a pistol round its a rifle round and its a chunky boii.. I find it disturbing how little youtube people know about guns ... I mean come on Google it if you dont know 45 seconds of Google will save you from triggering every gun guy on here.. plz tan gun facts are important 🙏 I don't want these kids to grow up thinking the 9x39 is a small pistol round.. their friends will make fun of them😂
lol you're right, I misread that one :D
Bro got me groveling for the ppsh
:D
Bizon is soooo under rated put ap in it go to silo and bam you can shread kids and 64 rounds ive killed bosses with HALF of a mag
i would rate the m4 at A because its a really good gun and easy to handle
Tanvarian “7.62 x 39 is just massive insane damage and penetration” “yeah I mean it’s shooting 9 x 39 those smaller rounds just aren’t doing as much” tan bro, 9 x 39 is literally 7.62 x 39 but bigger 😂
Also If you check the stats currently listed on the wiki does more damage and has more pen than a 7.62
LOL truuu
It's kind of funny how 545 has less penetration than 762 even though 545 in real life is a higher velocity smaller bullet with should penetrate armor better in theory
Mass and velocity are key in penetration.
It should have been mid b because a lot of the time when you find it it has a drum mag
Tan you look exactly like the type of guy to own a scion frs
Lol, I do have one :D
7:59 "Hee ha"
watching the chat talk about different ammo is infuriating
Lolol
bro i was point firing dual wield famas and tearing through everyone in silo. LOL
LOL
I kinda am new to tabor but still I have a luty and no armor nothign and I killed someone with the ak alpha nd top tier armor and bag the ak was fullly kitted
How do you switch fire Mode in this game ? 😅
It's one of the two buttons on your thumb.
@Tanvarian thanks man helped a lot with Ur vids 🙏
I’m new to ghost of tobor i don’t have the game but I really want it
It's super fun.
9x39 is NOT a small round lmfao. it's bigger than the 7.62x39, the first number is the diameter of the bullet, 2nd number is the length of the casing. so it's a 9mm round using the same casing as an AK versus a 7.62mm round. man, bro got so many calibers mixed up. also i can't wait until they put picatinny adapters for all the carry handle weapons
You're right, it's not a small round. I got it wrong in the video ^-^
putting the agram as F is sad. i love the agram. its irons are good and dual wielding is kinda fun tbh
I tried to use the bison on one of the bosses with the mouse helmet, that mf took two mags. Granted, my aim was shit but still
So glad you made this list however you need to take my damn mat-49 out of E Tier asap that smh is the shredder of souls 😂😂😂
LOL
Do what you want, but don’t you DARE rate my pookie the 74u like that 3:27
does'nt the m16a2 have the highest damage i've been running it on silo and it's a absolute beast
Justice for FAMAS and AUG
Bruh I killed a dude who had kurtek helmet and max armor when he was looting vault with a ruger
NICE