Oh god Jarvis' recreation of pop punk is so spot on. It's only missing the off-hand extremely misogynistic lines and you basically got 2000s pop-punk-emo
@@annaSHRRR Actually when stuff that's originally used to save money, gets made into an aesthetic it gets capitalised on. Therefore making it more expensive.
@@annaSHRRRi mean its not a good thing either. idk why everyone thinks in black and white bc nothing is. like yeah it can help ppl which is good but its also annoying as hell
I'm a 110 year old woman with false teeth and wooden legs. I've never listened to a sound before in my life, but this Jordan man's words really connected with me
Fun fact: a big part of why water fountains are everywhere in America is because when people were pushing the Temperance Movement (the effort to abstain from alcohol and ban alcohol), there was this theory put forward that public drunkeness was just the result of people being thirsty and not having anything else to drink but beer. So if we put water fountains everywhere, people can drink water instead of alcohol. There are highly ornate waterfountains still standing today that serve as monuments to ending alcohol consumption/overconsumption As silly as all that sounds though, it is is important to collect yourself and remember WHY there was such a big push for sobriety, which was the complete lack of legal recourse for a woman who was being ab*sed by her drunk husband; there was no legal concept for marital r*pe. The Temperance Movement was very intertwined with certain sects of the Women's Rights Movement. I don't fully agree with everything they tried to do, but I can understand why they were so desperate to push forward some kind of change
That's super fascinating! And it explains why drinking fountains are so common in the US and not in many other countries. The lack of access to drinking water in The Netherlands was baffling when I was studying there, but it's good to recognize that our access in the states comes from yet another dark part of our history.
@@2amazing101 definitely! Throw in the importance of water fountains to the Civil Rights Movement (they were previously segregated) and for the disabled rights movement that got us the Americans with Disabilities Act to provide reasonable accommodations for disabled people, and they've actually been this quiet background symbol of fighting for change since the very beginning. It's absolutely wild to learn the history behind the things we take for granted
can you imagine if any commercial vehicle OTHER than ice cream trucks had a theme song? imagine if those mobile dog groomer vans just blasted "who let the dogs out" at all hours of the day or if the moving guys were playing "i like to move it" at full volume while hauling a sofa out of a truck??? INSANE
One tumblr user posted about a knife sharpening truck that would play jingles like that and roll through their neighborhood, and, cuz it was tumblr, no one believed them obviously... until they posted proof and it was legit a video of the most ominous truck of all time just slowly driving through the neighborhood... and then the OP was like "huh i thought this was commonplace, guess it is kinda weird" after everyone was like ?????!?!??!?
If you die with debt, it gets paid out of your estate. Your inheritor has to pay it out of your estate before they inherit. If there isn't enough money in the estate, it takes what it can and the rest is forgiven. You don't inherit the debt, thank god, or I'd be fucked.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment! I was so concerned that the question was left unresolved. So many people don't know this, and scummy debt collectors absolutely WILL try to trick you into paying debts you don't owe.
Not true in every state Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington and Wisconsin allow for spouses to be pursued for past debts of their bereaved.
@@anegginthesetryingtimes7636Fair enough! I was only considering the inheritance between parent and child, didn't even think about spouses 😅 Honestly, I assumed that spouses inherited debt everywhere since any incurred during the marriage is counted as communal property during divorce. I guess I just assumed your dead spouse's debt would be resolved when you die and your estate pays out. The more you know the more you grow!
I've been a caregiver for a developmentally disabled adult for the last 7 years and it's given me so much perspective on personal responsibility around waste and over consumption. There are so many factors involved, like accessibility and freedom of choice, both of which are extremely important to the person I support. There are convenience products they use that create more waste but also allow them to be more independent. They probably buy too many crappy dollar store items, but they also enjoy shopping and being out in the community and going to the dollar store allows them to do that regularly while staying within their budget. And it's also helped me realize where allowing myself to splurge on convenience items that have more packaging than I would prefer also helps me manage my executive function. I have a tiny little kitchen with limited prep space, and no laundry in my apartment, so things like paper towels and pre-prepped vegetables go a long way toward helping me manage my daily tasks. When I get down on myself, I quote one of my favorite TH-camrs--"I'm trying my best."
Same here! And I have a vague memory of learning it as a kid with a picture of a basset hound. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were racist origins to that version too.
I’m a children’s librarian and learned a while ago in a training that Turkey in the Straw is on the “do not use” list of songs with racist pasts. As soon as they started whistling/talking about it I wondered if they’d go down that discussion road…
Under-consumption core is a reality for me since I was young. I was criticised for ‘wasting toothpaste’ and the correct way to go was if I strangled the tube. Also, Indian parents can be sustainability icons sometimes.
Carribean household here 🫡 reusing bags, conserving water and light, little to no food waste. Sometimes the most sustainable ppl are the poorest of the poor 😭
russian here and i love this comment section. Actually a cultural shock for me that ppl buy new plastic bottles of soap lol coz my paremts buy a few galoons of soap and then pour it into dozator
Yeah same. But i think its also quite common in germany because people are constantly made aware of actually being sustainable. Lots of recycling, theres a lot of emphasis on being practical, like not buying the pretty shoes but buying the practical ones that will last you half a lifetime and stuff like that. And obviously this is changing too, especially with the US american influence, I don't know how it is in other countries, but I still feel like over consumption is far more scrutinized that it is in, for example, the US. And in the end, the reason for why you don't over consume is irrelevant, whats important is that you don't over consume😂
Jarvis, hearing you talk about your mom brings me to tears. My mom reminds me often of how impossible our situation was once my parents divorced, and yet she was somehow always able to make things happen. Her favorite story about overcoming impossible odds is how I told her my shoes no longer fit and were painful when she had $5 in her bank account. Kmart layaway was a staple in our household. For those who are curious about the ‘it’s expensive to be poor’ idea, look up the Boots Theory of Poverty.
Im not really a big spender and i dont do the whole fridge/pantry organization thing. However, i do love an "apothecary", kinda maximalist aesthetic. So i have a bunch of organized jars on my counter that i keep herbs, spices, and other dried ingredients in. Im a baker, and i also love to cook and i make my own tea blends. So i keep all my fancy ingredients out on display. Not boring stuff like garlic powder, but i love looking at my jars of rose petals, pink salt crystals, rainbow peppercorns, cinnamon sticks, saffron, calendula, etc. It's convenient but also just makes me so much happier than keeping those pretty ingredients in bags in the cabinet. I dont think theres anything wrong with it. It's decoration, but also reusable and functional. Yes, you throw away the original plastic container it came in. But you would do that anyway. I have these jars on my counter that i refill, but if i stopped doing that, i could still use them for other things. Of all the things, i dont understand why people get so worked up about this issue.
I do something similar, but I regret having bought the bulk spice jars on Amazon instead of keeping them in the ugly plastic until I could slowly collect better jars in less harmful ways
do you recycle the plastic containers or throw them in the garbage? i think that's the issue. you are buying glass containers, emptying plastic containers that work just fine, and throwing them away. it's overconsumption (buying containers you don't need) and it's wasteful + adding to landfills (throwing away perfectly good containers). being zero waste / eco friendly / whatever label you wanna call it is about USING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. so keeping your spices in the containers they came in OR reusing other containers like pasta sauce jars etc if the spices don't already come in something similar. that's the part concerned people are critiquing. and i'm not coming at your or anything; i'm making some assumptions here lol and just trying to explain the issue best i can. i hope it helps answer any questions you have
@@bunnyellabell i do recycle! Im actually a big recycler. And i already have tons of jars because i do canning! I have bought some jars, but some are repurposed jam jars. I also consciously buy in bulk so i only have 1 bag that i refill from instead of constantly buying tons of little ones, which i would be doing if i didnt have a convenient way to store them. I also dry a lot of my own herbs i grow, which do NOT come in prepackaged containers. So i need jars to store them in. Also for me it's more practical to have them displayed on my counter, rather than having to rifle through a bunch of bags in my cabinet. And the seals arent always great and i dont want herb debris everywhere. Besides, as i said, if i decide to stop using them for spices, i already have jars to use for other things. I dont really think it's OVERconsumption, it's just regular consumption. It's one thing for tiktokers to hang dozens of stanley cups on their walls, do thousand dollar shein hauls every week, and waste gallons of food for fake tiktok recipes. It's very different for a middle class person to buy things for their hobby or things they actually use. Im also not claiming to be zero waste. It's not that i dont care, but most people do throw out SO much. I try in moderation but im also not going to make myself feel guilty for having glass jars. And i think it's shitty for anyone to shame people for having an average amount of consumption. It's good to make people aware, and to hope people improve their choices. But i really hate the amount of shaming that happens. Not saying you are! But it's very common
I love when Jordan drops some jokes and makes the “that was a funny one!” face but no one reacts 😂 I laughed, Jordan! Dead guy voice got a good guffaw.
This podcast is specifically targeted at me, another millennial who grew up just watching random comedy specials on Comedy Central. I actually remembered Ron White the most. He did a lot of “hating your ex wife” type stuff but also “marry a smart lady because you can just get her plastic surgery” was his big one
I also enjoyed watching him make jokes about being an alcoholic while drinking, because I always thought it would be so funny if he keeled over during a set.
Finally talked to my parents about ADHD this week and am going to start working towards a diagnosis. The pod has helped a lot and while I've known for a while now, hearing yall talk has made it easier. Much gratitude and can't wait for the ep.
This made me remember when I first got diagnosed. I went in and did this written checkbox test for a complete different disorder (don’t remember which), adhd was never brought up once.. but I ended up checking all the ones that matched it instead. 😂 Good for ya, you got this. 👍🏻
the official diagnosis is less important than your own understanding of how it affects you and how your life can improve now that you know how to design it to work for you instead of against how your brain works. So: don’t get discouraged by any bumps in the road to diagnosis. What someone else marks down on a piece of paper is bureaucracy, but understanding yourself better is invaluable
I got diagnosed in April as an adult and them talking about their adults diagnosis was so validating. I knew I have had ADHD but was too depressed and unorganized to set up the assessment for the longest time
The boys said it well here. Wasting nothing is impossible for most of us in the US. The point is too as much as you can PRACTICALLY not be wasteful by choice. Love y'all keep it up, and stop talking about baldur's gate Ive never played that!!
I couldn't remember the "here's your sign" set up but apparently it's that stupid people should have to wear signs declaring that they're stupid. So I think the person gives a sarcastic response and then follows it up with "here's your sign" to the person who asked the stupid question.
while it's true that most "products you didn't know you needed" are novelty junk, as a stupid person, i have definitely just suffered through fixable inconveniences because it simply didn't occur to me that there are things that can be done to improve them, and therefore wouldn't seek it out until it was recommended to me. i'm not pro amazon or dropshipping or anything, but sometimes a little gadget can improve your quality of life like actually
i want there to be a counter counter culture called re-influencing, then subsequent editions like de-re-influencing. this should go on forever so that people can be de/re-influenced to an exact degree.
😂 I forgot what the term was that historians use, but this has always been a phenomenon in history. The culture always swings the other way thinking each concept is new. I guess humans subconsciously strive for balance.
56:53 there’s also the whole “boots” phenomenon (idr the name) where poor people end up having to spend more on cheap, poor quality products because in the moment where they need the product they can only afford the cheap, poor quality option. more reusable, long-lasting options are great and preferable but require a bigger upfront investment
I saw blue collar comedy tour so many times and the only joke i remember from Ron White was the part where he got arrested for being drunk in public and they called him Ron "tater salad" White. Dont know why that was the most memorable part 😂
Anecdote vs antidote is a great joke. "My friend got a snake bite so I started reading him the funnies. I said it wasn't working and he said "Read faster!""
Topic: consumption. I hope we haven't forgotten that we're allowed to have nice things. It's also alright to get your kicks cheaply. Personally, I aim for sincerity. I'm always satisfied getting what I genuinely want. Also, we all do something performative. No need to pretend otherwise.
31:20 Beige his house With a beige little window And a beige corvette And everything is beige for him And himself and everybody around Cause he ain't got nobody to listen to
If I had a nickel for every channel I like that ends with “we’re sorry,” id have two nickels. But it’s weird that it happened twice! Hello fellow Drawfee and Sad Boys fan!
This is actually feasible because Jordan and Jarvis have appeared on Dropout (formerly CollegeHumor) and Drawfee also was under CH before they became independent, so I think it’s just a matter of time before it happens.
@@MC-su3sd yeah, and there are a ton of crossover interests that would make good drawfee episodes! pokemon, baldur's gate 3, and mtg all spring to mind
I feel like adhd (or mine anyway) makes it SO MUCH HARDER to form new habits. Like I recently got an electric toothbrush and when it needs charging oh my god my entire world is thrown of whack. Another basic example is, I’ve been on twice daily medication for almost ten years. Do I still CONSTANTLY FORGET and not realise til I start getting withdrawals? Absolutely. I think part of it is my adhd makes my brain feel so frantic and cluttered all the time that trying to add anything I have to remotely think about (like reminding yourself to do something so that it eventually becomes a habit) feels so impossible.
yeah viewing under consumption as something common for people below the poverty line is super flawed. upper middle class people are most capable of buying products made to last without buying many of them or buying replacements. upper class people get into over consumption when they stop considering the utility of these items and simply buy them for a current aesthetic, going too far and defeating the purpose of high quality replacements for single use items. working class people are likely to use things to their fullest extent, yes, but they are also likely to buy single use items like water bottles or even fast food because they simply don't have enough to invest in those things that make things cheaper long term. there are a few branches ive seen of the under consumption trend; one being buying quality items that don't need to be replaced often, another being using items until the end of their life like shoes or clothing, often things that were popular 5-10 years ago rather than buying new ones that fit current trends, and another is just reusing or pushing the limits of simple things like plastic containers or charging cables. It's a hard trend to get a grasp on, i think that many of the forms it takes are valid,and the message of avoiding current trends when you already have something else that works fine (like using a 5 year old hydroflask rather than buying a new stanley) is a net positive i think
I had a friend in high school who would listen to Larry the cable guy on CD to fall asleep every night. I spent the night over her house 2 separate times and she did it both times. And it was on repeat. It was hard to sleep.
Jordan talking about how he finds it hard to do bedtime routines because he doesn’t have an unreliable bedtime and jarvis talking about buying gadgets you need but struggling to actually routinely use them i found myself nodding vigorously bc i get so much guilt sometimes around consumption in face of my adhd
The “here’s your sign” bit by Bill Engvall turned into an inside joke for his fan base. It’s based on the setup that stupid people should have to wear a sign so you know who they are, he then says something that someone did, and he implies handing them a sign that says they are stupid.
i think an interesting thing about the whole “wanting stuff to be aesthetic is shallow and bad” argument is that like. people by default like things that look nice. we like things that are pretty or fun or pleasing to the eye and that’s like extremely normal. and i feel like the modern world has often abandoned the concepts of like graphic design that’s meant to look good in favor of graphic design that’s meant to be insanely eye catching (and oftentimes ugly) on the store shelves. and in the past, cheap stuff was plain and boring, expensive fancy stuff was embellished. and we’ve flipped that completely to cheap stuff being embellished in a tacky, cheap way and expensive things being aesthetic and plain. no one wants their shower/kitchen to look like an advertisement with clashing colors and loud texts that reflect brands and drawing the eyes attention to them rather than the surrounding room that’s been decorated with the individuals personal wants. having things that are plain (not even pretty necessarily) is a privilege in this portion of hyper-advertising stage of capitalism. and if you can’t afford/don’t want to buy the products with packaging that assaults your eyeballs the next best thing is to find a cheap plain aesthetic package that diverts attention away from the product and allows the eye to focus on the room/actual decor that you’ve decorated your home in for your own pleasure, not just to look cookiecutter “good” and “aesthetic” for social media. it feels like the hyperunderconsumption core is oftentimes just trying to punish poor people for a) daring to engage in an inherently unsustainable capitalism system for things that aren’t basic needs and b) wanting to have a nice, pleasing space to live in by acting like any poor person who’s trying to curate their home in an affordable manner is just “over consuming” and trying to “copy the rich tik tok influencers they’re too poor to be like :(“ rather than realizing that poor people are people too and a lot of people naturally don’t LIKE to live in a place where they’re surrounded by things they don’t like looking at.
earliest i’ve ever made it to one of these can’t wait to see how sad these boys are today will update after viewing (update 1) just got off work and have like half an hour left will update ASAP (update 2) wow didn’t expect that much turkey in the straw content but nonetheless a great episode
The funny thing about the ice cream trucks is the song they play is somewhat regional. Here in NYC all of the mister softee trucks play "jingle and chimes" which was made for the company and apparently has non racist lyrics all about ice cream
Hurts my heart how expensive punk has become cause its not supposed to be!! Anything is punk, bright pink sneakers are punk especially if youve sewn that shit together to keep it from falling apart. Fixing old worn things is punk, painting your own shitty, cheap, low quality clothes is punk, making spikes out of soda cans is punk. Underconsumption could be punk, but it’s such a broad name for just an average life lmaoo. The best thing about punk was cutting shit up instead of buying and even thrifting, being able to look messy and cobbled together in whatever way felt the most authentic,,,, newayz
Jarvis I've never related to someone more than your iPod story. I got an iPod Nano at like 13 for a combination birthday/Christmas gift, and no one told me the songs cost money, so I tried to use it for the first time and realized I'd just asked my parents to buy a paperweight because I knew I wasn't going to ask them to spend more money I used Limewire religiously to burn CDs, but wasn't tech savvy enough to understand I could pirate music onto my iPod, so I listened to like three albums for years 🥳
As someone who lives like this the name under consumption core chesses my onions, as it implies a distubingly capitalistic concept that your depriveing your self in some way rather than just not buying things you dont need, and that your doing so to look cool rather than just living in a way that's comfortable for one's self and comparatively cheep.
I thought that melody was "do your hears hang low, do they wobble to and fro, can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow? Do your ears, hang, low." And then replace ears with other body parts to continue
I love Jordan’s jokes, responses, or comments, a lot of under radar jokes or clap backs, especially hilarious when the camera is on Jarvis and you can hear his comedic chime in perfectly timed
Jarvis’ childhood is so relatable. Waiting in line at Walmart Layaway was a memory I hadn’t thought of in ages. We would get the thing on Layaway, but then my siblings and I had to share everything… we would get a new gaming console, but it was the gift for the 4 of us to share. Which was great for when other kids would ask what you got for Christmas, but not great when they’d ask if you could bring it over to their house 😂
the schools i worked in had those water fountains with the bottle fillers. both options worked and were allowed, but most students preferred to carry some sort of bottle and refill it. most had reusable ones but some would just refill the plastic one they had taken that day (what i do). there were some kids who's parents actually told them they weren't allowed to drink water from the fountains at all so their parents sent them with HUGE reusable bottles so they would have enough for the day without having to refill.
54:45 what’s being billed as an “aesthetic” or “core” is just the natural way of life for lower class people. it’s an aesthetic for wealthy people to cosplay poverty. (like distressed clothing, we buy things and then use them until they are naturally distressed and worn because we have to. wealthy people buy pre-distressed clothing, wear it for a season, and then throw it out.) they cosplay poverty by mimicking the result of everyday people attempting to get by. “aesthetic” implies choice. under-consumption can only be chosen by people who have the ability to choose to consume more. of course wearing the same shoes until the soles fall off isn’t an aesthetic, i wouldn’t go through that discomfort if i had another option.
as someone who grew up in the south, watching the blue collar comedy tour dvd over and over while camping- listening to y'all discuss foxworthy and engvall jokes was a transcendent experience.
Schools in my area have fountains that are designed to fill up a cup or water bottle instead of the ones where you drink right from the spout, they’ve been around since I was in high school, as the old fountains broke or were deemed unsafe they’d get replaced with the bottle- style ones instead
My favorite part of having ADHD bad memory (the only positive) is I can re- watch episodes. there’s so many moments in the episode that I do not remember
I'll once again take this opportunity to encourage people to check out Aja Barber and buy her book "Consumed" cause honestly she breaks down consumerism so well-- it's not just tks tsk'ing at people for not going zero waste but kind of highlighting how it's INSANE that the systems in place have made the low-quality, programmed-obsolecense, single-use plastic option the DEFAULT at the expense of people and planet
Jarvis talking about how he wishes he could just code better habits is so relatable like; why can't I logic my way out of this situation??!?? What am I supposed to do???
My grandpa was work friends with Jeff Foxworthy back in the 80s. His comedy isn’t really my thing, but grandpa only has nice things to say about the guy. Just felt like sharing 🤷🏻♀️
I did not expect Blue Collar Comedy Tour to ever come up but I'm so glad it did because I actually know the reference! Watched that special almost every weekend at my besties house in jr high
the "under-consumption core" thing is such a bizarre way to present a reality most people just live in. Like its well-intentioned in wanting to remind people they don't have to buy unnecessary products all the time but, as they pointed out, the language around it seems flawed. I feel like this trend is forgetting that the way people buy and use products comes out of necessity. working class people use something til it's worn down to the point u cannot use it anymore for the same reason they buy single-use products at the same time, out of necessity. It would be nice to get and invest in a well-made, durable product that doesn't need constant replacing, but it is also definitely more expensive. I don't wanna be too negative about this if it gets some people to think more about the products they buy, but I hope people dont lose sight of that message just for another new aesthetic
It's interesting to me that they talk about under consumption in a "spend less money" way because to me it's not about the money, even though I don't have much anyway, but it's more about knowing and feeling fully, that consumption is horrible for humanity, for the planet, for everything honestly. And every time I buy something, even just at the grocery store, I think about "is this neccessary? Is this packed in too much plastic?" etc. It's just the awareness that I have an impact on the World and I want to be conscious of the fact that I want to have a positive impact. So i buy less clothing but clothing that's natural fibres, I crochet a lot of stuff I need so I don't have to buy the stuff and not know how it was produced, I use items until they are broken, not when I feel like buying something new. I don't know, I guess that's just what I was expecting when I heard under consumed but I never really went into what that "trend" really is to people
1:05:00 I feel like kids these days don't know about piracy until MUCH later in life, if at all. I was downloading games, software, movies, fan-subbed anime, manga, all by the age of 11 lol. Today, I am blessed enough to afford the products I like, but I will always support piracy if you can't afford something because it's not like the producer is losing out on your sale anyway if the options are to either pirate it or not get it at all.
@@Khronogi I don't think I ever paid for diablo 2, but it's not like the money would go to those original devs, anyway. I do support their current projects, though. I also don't know how I'd pay for old movies lol.
one of my formative memories is my dad teaching me how to use limewire to download music when i was like 10, first to burn cds and then to put on my first mp3 player when i turned 13. i feel like streaming has removed a lot of the barriers that drove people to piracy in the first place, since now all you have to do is launch an app on your smartphone to listen to pretty much whatever you want whenever you want, where 15 years ago you had to acquire the specific music you wanted to listen to somehow, typically with money, which children do not tend to have. that's also true for movies/tv shows (good luck legally watching most anime as a 13 year old in 2005), but the driving force for me to learn how piracy worked was definitely music
That just gave me a funny conspiracy idea what if companies are intentionally hiring people to make under consumption TikTok’s to make people buy their products out of spite
The under consumption convo really veered to salary/class talk, but I think it's less about how much you're spending and more about wasteful buying in an ecological sense
@@TheLalalalanithe people who need to hear about under consumption just bought another car so I don't think it ever really could've been taken 100% seriously
Thrifting, reusing items, not buying new things every season does ultimately originate from poverty. And people who live below the poverty line will balance time, money and convenience.
Listen i like underconsumption but this whole thing on tiktok of telling people they can’t buy things they want like lets say something expensive, is a little weird
one of my first days at work at a gas station some old guy "here's your sign"ed me for taking too long to get his cigarettes and in retaliation i asked to see his ID and they transferred me out from the register after that
Absolutely loving the color scheme going on today!! Y'all look great and it's been a wonderful podcast as always. Thanks for sharing your time with us!
Jarvis took me back to my first ipod video and history on the high seas. I spent so much time renaming files. I had an amazing collection that I transferred from hard drive to hard drive for years.
Good news the loans probably defaulted and no one paid them (unless there was money in your mom's estate). 🤗 You can't collect from someone who's passed. Also, i didn't know that and I'm sorry you had to go through that as a kid.
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I'm a 60 year old veteran and I've never been into this 'podcast' thing but these boys are sad!
I'm a 47 minute old active duty Navy seal. And I agree. Real sad boys
I'm 7 but my granddad says they're the most patriotic boys and I should aspire to be them when I grow up
I'm 23 seconds old and I agree they are sad
I've been in active duty since 6 months of gestation, never thought I'd be into the "podcast" thing! These boys are the saddest!
Normally I call it podcrap but this is real podrap I mean cast
the fact that no one can seem to replicate jarvis’ appearance without whitewashing him feels like a hate crime 😭😭
Indeed. Someone should make a petition to get him a race accurate figure lol he deserves that much at least
Which means at the very least it likely easily qualifies as a microaggression 😅🥲
@@anonymixx8106truuuuuu
@@Rambertaagreed. 😭
literally the point they got in the black white series was how bad people are at achieving certain skin colors just for a lack of trying
Oh god Jarvis' recreation of pop punk is so spot on. It's only missing the off-hand extremely misogynistic lines and you basically got 2000s pop-punk-emo
And a line about how much he hates his home town
Don’t be shy you can say Panic at the Disco
@@alicethemad1613 yes
extremely misogynistic lines💀💀
I don’t know a lot of pop punk but now im super curious about which songs have those misogynistic lyrics
I'm a 10,000 year old lich and I've never been into this "podcast" thing but you Mr. Jarvis have struck a cord!
i always play it in the background for my phylactery
@@oakleyvesDoes it like listening to podcasts???
@@casadastraphobia ya
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i’m a 2 month old baby and i don’t normally like videos that aren’t spider-man elsa but woo baby this is some good stuff
Lmao I could actually see moist critical saying this
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@@poorsocialskills or Elon Musk 😂
Underconsumption core is just making an aestethic out of things I've done my entire life as a lower middle class America 😭
Which is not a bad thing. It destigmstizes ir
@@annaSHRRR Actually when stuff that's originally used to save money, gets made into an aesthetic it gets capitalised on.
Therefore making it more expensive.
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@@annaSHRRRde stigmatizes for who? it’s wealthy people cosplaying poverty
@@annaSHRRRi mean its not a good thing either. idk why everyone thinks in black and white bc nothing is. like yeah it can help ppl which is good but its also annoying as hell
Jordan, I am in England and there is a spider. I can only assume you are the king of England and can tell them to please move away.
Jordan>>>> The monarchy
I’m in England if Jordan says no I’ll tell the spider to go away for you
@@elle_rose_xx it is a well known scientific fact that all british people can communicate telepathically with arthropods
@@SharkUsingaComputer it’s a skill we are very proud of
This comment made me giggle, thank you
My favorite thing is always Anastasia's giggle in the background every 5 minutes
I feel like they started leaving her giggles after too many comments about "Jordan says something hilarious and no one reacts". I love it too
It's one of my favorites things about the podcast
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the only live audience I need
I'm a 110 year old woman with false teeth and wooden legs. I've never listened to a sound before in my life, but this Jordan man's words really connected with me
I love how Jarvis says “Igor” when mentioning Larry the cable guy as a title but doesn’t mention Tyler, the creator
Real
Ivan the Terrible was the first most recent one I could think of 😂 Whats wrong with me
megan thee stallion, chance the rapper...
Bob the drag queen
@@genmiller3598 I guess rappers don't count lol Not redneck enough
Fun fact: a big part of why water fountains are everywhere in America is because when people were pushing the Temperance Movement (the effort to abstain from alcohol and ban alcohol), there was this theory put forward that public drunkeness was just the result of people being thirsty and not having anything else to drink but beer. So if we put water fountains everywhere, people can drink water instead of alcohol. There are highly ornate waterfountains still standing today that serve as monuments to ending alcohol consumption/overconsumption
As silly as all that sounds though, it is is important to collect yourself and remember WHY there was such a big push for sobriety, which was the complete lack of legal recourse for a woman who was being ab*sed by her drunk husband; there was no legal concept for marital r*pe. The Temperance Movement was very intertwined with certain sects of the Women's Rights Movement. I don't fully agree with everything they tried to do, but I can understand why they were so desperate to push forward some kind of change
That's super fascinating! And it explains why drinking fountains are so common in the US and not in many other countries. The lack of access to drinking water in The Netherlands was baffling when I was studying there, but it's good to recognize that our access in the states comes from yet another dark part of our history.
@@2amazing101 definitely! Throw in the importance of water fountains to the Civil Rights Movement (they were previously segregated) and for the disabled rights movement that got us the Americans with Disabilities Act to provide reasonable accommodations for disabled people, and they've actually been this quiet background symbol of fighting for change since the very beginning. It's absolutely wild to learn the history behind the things we take for granted
can you imagine if any commercial vehicle OTHER than ice cream trucks had a theme song? imagine if those mobile dog groomer vans just blasted "who let the dogs out" at all hours of the day or if the moving guys were playing "i like to move it" at full volume while hauling a sofa out of a truck??? INSANE
I don't know who you are but I love your brain
One tumblr user posted about a knife sharpening truck that would play jingles like that and roll through their neighborhood, and, cuz it was tumblr, no one believed them obviously... until they posted proof and it was legit a video of the most ominous truck of all time just slowly driving through the neighborhood... and then the OP was like "huh i thought this was commonplace, guess it is kinda weird" after everyone was like ?????!?!??!?
@@someth1ngb3tter mwah
@@hebedite4865 that sounds like a very tumblr story!!!
@@hebedite4865 only on tumblr!!!
If you die with debt, it gets paid out of your estate. Your inheritor has to pay it out of your estate before they inherit. If there isn't enough money in the estate, it takes what it can and the rest is forgiven. You don't inherit the debt, thank god, or I'd be fucked.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment! I was so concerned that the question was left unresolved. So many people don't know this, and scummy debt collectors absolutely WILL try to trick you into paying debts you don't owe.
Not true in every state
Arizona, California, Idaho, Louisiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Texas, Washington and Wisconsin allow for spouses to be pursued for past debts of their bereaved.
@@anegginthesetryingtimes7636Fair enough! I was only considering the inheritance between parent and child, didn't even think about spouses 😅 Honestly, I assumed that spouses inherited debt everywhere since any incurred during the marriage is counted as communal property during divorce. I guess I just assumed your dead spouse's debt would be resolved when you die and your estate pays out. The more you know the more you grow!
the fact that Jarvis says there's a band called "Boys Like Girls" and proceeds to sing his rendition of their biggest song
I've been a caregiver for a developmentally disabled adult for the last 7 years and it's given me so much perspective on personal responsibility around waste and over consumption. There are so many factors involved, like accessibility and freedom of choice, both of which are extremely important to the person I support. There are convenience products they use that create more waste but also allow them to be more independent. They probably buy too many crappy dollar store items, but they also enjoy shopping and being out in the community and going to the dollar store allows them to do that regularly while staying within their budget. And it's also helped me realize where allowing myself to splurge on convenience items that have more packaging than I would prefer also helps me manage my executive function. I have a tiny little kitchen with limited prep space, and no laundry in my apartment, so things like paper towels and pre-prepped vegetables go a long way toward helping me manage my daily tasks. When I get down on myself, I quote one of my favorite TH-camrs--"I'm trying my best."
Drew saying "oh no they made jarvis White" wen he saw it , is burnt i nto my brain
I remember the “Turkey in the Straw” song as the “Do Your Ears Hang Low” song
Same here!
Yeah, that and the balls one
I’m pretty sure they’re slightly different tunes.
Same here! And I have a vague memory of learning it as a kid with a picture of a basset hound. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were racist origins to that version too.
Someone made a hip hop song called "do your chain hang low" and it was a big hit in the late aughts
I’m a children’s librarian and learned a while ago in a training that Turkey in the Straw is on the “do not use” list of songs with racist pasts. As soon as they started whistling/talking about it I wondered if they’d go down that discussion road…
obsessed with how they both reacted to turkey in the straw god thats such a wildcard of a sentence
DO THEY GET TO THE WATERMELON PART??? WIKI IS CRAZY
YEP
bro they blasted that song outside jordans house... thats a hate crime wtf
Under-consumption core is a reality for me since I was young. I was criticised for ‘wasting toothpaste’ and the correct way to go was if I strangled the tube. Also, Indian parents can be sustainability icons sometimes.
@@eveningpianoat that point just pour half out each time u use it…whoopsies😁🤷♀️
Carribean household here 🫡 reusing bags, conserving water and light, little to no food waste. Sometimes the most sustainable ppl are the poorest of the poor 😭
russian here and i love this comment section. Actually a cultural shock for me that ppl buy new plastic bottles of soap lol coz my paremts buy a few galoons of soap and then pour it into dozator
Yeah same. But i think its also quite common in germany because people are constantly made aware of actually being sustainable. Lots of recycling, theres a lot of emphasis on being practical, like not buying the pretty shoes but buying the practical ones that will last you half a lifetime and stuff like that. And obviously this is changing too, especially with the US american influence, I don't know how it is in other countries, but I still feel like over consumption is far more scrutinized that it is in, for example, the US. And in the end, the reason for why you don't over consume is irrelevant, whats important is that you don't over consume😂
@@00xyresit's actually close to always
you guys were so in sync at 44:43, absolutely not beating the twin allegations
They both had to do a double take for "Big Turkey in the Straw"😂
Jarvis, hearing you talk about your mom brings me to tears. My mom reminds me often of how impossible our situation was once my parents divorced, and yet she was somehow always able to make things happen. Her favorite story about overcoming impossible odds is how I told her my shoes no longer fit and were painful when she had $5 in her bank account. Kmart layaway was a staple in our household. For those who are curious about the ‘it’s expensive to be poor’ idea, look up the Boots Theory of Poverty.
Under-consumption hits a point where it feels like a hobby more than anything. Which is fine by me, I like feeling good about not spending money.
this episode was 99% tangent 1% content
But 100% entertaining nonetheless 💯
And we love it
It was a little hard to follow this time
Im not really a big spender and i dont do the whole fridge/pantry organization thing. However, i do love an "apothecary", kinda maximalist aesthetic. So i have a bunch of organized jars on my counter that i keep herbs, spices, and other dried ingredients in.
Im a baker, and i also love to cook and i make my own tea blends. So i keep all my fancy ingredients out on display. Not boring stuff like garlic powder, but i love looking at my jars of rose petals, pink salt crystals, rainbow peppercorns, cinnamon sticks, saffron, calendula, etc. It's convenient but also just makes me so much happier than keeping those pretty ingredients in bags in the cabinet.
I dont think theres anything wrong with it. It's decoration, but also reusable and functional. Yes, you throw away the original plastic container it came in. But you would do that anyway. I have these jars on my counter that i refill, but if i stopped doing that, i could still use them for other things. Of all the things, i dont understand why people get so worked up about this issue.
Apothecary maximalist aesthetic sounds rad as hell
I do something similar, but I regret having bought the bulk spice jars on Amazon instead of keeping them in the ugly plastic until I could slowly collect better jars in less harmful ways
do you recycle the plastic containers or throw them in the garbage? i think that's the issue. you are buying glass containers, emptying plastic containers that work just fine, and throwing them away. it's overconsumption (buying containers you don't need) and it's wasteful + adding to landfills (throwing away perfectly good containers). being zero waste / eco friendly / whatever label you wanna call it is about USING WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE. so keeping your spices in the containers they came in OR reusing other containers like pasta sauce jars etc if the spices don't already come in something similar. that's the part concerned people are critiquing.
and i'm not coming at your or anything; i'm making some assumptions here lol and just trying to explain the issue best i can. i hope it helps answer any questions you have
@@bunnyellabell i do recycle! Im actually a big recycler. And i already have tons of jars because i do canning! I have bought some jars, but some are repurposed jam jars. I also consciously buy in bulk so i only have 1 bag that i refill from instead of constantly buying tons of little ones, which i would be doing if i didnt have a convenient way to store them. I also dry a lot of my own herbs i grow, which do NOT come in prepackaged containers. So i need jars to store them in. Also for me it's more practical to have them displayed on my counter, rather than having to rifle through a bunch of bags in my cabinet. And the seals arent always great and i dont want herb debris everywhere. Besides, as i said, if i decide to stop using them for spices, i already have jars to use for other things. I dont really think it's OVERconsumption, it's just regular consumption. It's one thing for tiktokers to hang dozens of stanley cups on their walls, do thousand dollar shein hauls every week, and waste gallons of food for fake tiktok recipes. It's very different for a middle class person to buy things for their hobby or things they actually use.
Im also not claiming to be zero waste. It's not that i dont care, but most people do throw out SO much. I try in moderation but im also not going to make myself feel guilty for having glass jars. And i think it's shitty for anyone to shame people for having an average amount of consumption. It's good to make people aware, and to hope people improve their choices. But i really hate the amount of shaming that happens. Not saying you are! But it's very common
I love when Jordan drops some jokes and makes the “that was a funny one!” face but no one reacts 😂 I laughed, Jordan! Dead guy voice got a good guffaw.
This podcast is specifically targeted at me, another millennial who grew up just watching random comedy specials on Comedy Central. I actually remembered Ron White the most. He did a lot of “hating your ex wife” type stuff but also “marry a smart lady because you can just get her plastic surgery” was his big one
I also enjoyed watching him make jokes about being an alcoholic while drinking, because I always thought it would be so funny if he keeled over during a set.
Finally talked to my parents about ADHD this week and am going to start working towards a diagnosis. The pod has helped a lot and while I've known for a while now, hearing yall talk has made it easier. Much gratitude and can't wait for the ep.
This made me remember when I first got diagnosed. I went in and did this written checkbox test for a complete different disorder (don’t remember which), adhd was never brought up once.. but I ended up checking all the ones that matched it instead. 😂
Good for ya, you got this. 👍🏻
the official diagnosis is less important than your own understanding of how it affects you and how your life can improve now that you know how to design it to work for you instead of against how your brain works.
So: don’t get discouraged by any bumps in the road to diagnosis. What someone else marks down on a piece of paper is bureaucracy, but understanding yourself better is invaluable
I got diagnosed in April as an adult and them talking about their adults diagnosis was so validating. I knew I have had ADHD but was too depressed and unorganized to set up the assessment for the longest time
The boys said it well here. Wasting nothing is impossible for most of us in the US. The point is too as much as you can PRACTICALLY not be wasteful by choice. Love y'all keep it up, and stop talking about baldur's gate Ive never played that!!
I love Jordan's voice. It's so calming lol, it's like what you would hear in a marine life documentary
I couldn't remember the "here's your sign" set up but apparently it's that stupid people should have to wear signs declaring that they're stupid. So I think the person gives a sarcastic response and then follows it up with "here's your sign" to the person who asked the stupid question.
while it's true that most "products you didn't know you needed" are novelty junk, as a stupid person, i have definitely just suffered through fixable inconveniences because it simply didn't occur to me that there are things that can be done to improve them, and therefore wouldn't seek it out until it was recommended to me. i'm not pro amazon or dropshipping or anything, but sometimes a little gadget can improve your quality of life like actually
47:18 Jordan looks like he saw a ghost off screen when he spotted that racism 😂
i want there to be a counter counter culture called re-influencing, then subsequent editions like de-re-influencing. this should go on forever so that people can be de/re-influenced to an exact degree.
Predator- prey population model lol but for influence
@@AnnaRenee YESSS YOU GET IT!!!
😂 I forgot what the term was that historians use, but this has always been a phenomenon in history. The culture always swings the other way thinking each concept is new. I guess humans subconsciously strive for balance.
56:53 there’s also the whole “boots” phenomenon (idr the name) where poor people end up having to spend more on cheap, poor quality products because in the moment where they need the product they can only afford the cheap, poor quality option. more reusable, long-lasting options are great and preferable but require a bigger upfront investment
I saw blue collar comedy tour so many times and the only joke i remember from Ron White was the part where he got arrested for being drunk in public and they called him Ron "tater salad" White. Dont know why that was the most memorable part 😂
"I was drunk in a bar, you threw me into publi-ck!"
for real! I don't even remember the joke, just "tater salad" from me and my same-age nephews joking about it on a camping trip years back lmao.
@@AshChiCupcak That and his son, Tater Tot.
I just have vague memories of a nipple-biting beaver 😭
Anecdote vs antidote is a great joke. "My friend got a snake bite so I started reading him the funnies. I said it wasn't working and he said "Read faster!""
Topic: consumption. I hope we haven't forgotten that we're allowed to have nice things. It's also alright to get your kicks cheaply. Personally, I aim for sincerity. I'm always satisfied getting what I genuinely want.
Also, we all do something performative. No need to pretend otherwise.
31:20
Beige his house
With a beige little window
And a beige corvette
And everything is beige for him
And himself and everybody around
Cause he ain't got nobody to listen to
Drawfee and Sad Boys collab when?? my two favorite shows that end with the phrase "we're sorry"
If I had a nickel for every channel I like that ends with “we’re sorry,” id have two nickels. But it’s weird that it happened twice!
Hello fellow Drawfee and Sad Boys fan!
This is actually feasible because Jordan and Jarvis have appeared on Dropout (formerly CollegeHumor) and Drawfee also was under CH before they became independent, so I think it’s just a matter of time before it happens.
@@MC-su3sd yeah, and there are a ton of crossover interests that would make good drawfee episodes! pokemon, baldur's gate 3, and mtg all spring to mind
I feel like adhd (or mine anyway) makes it SO MUCH HARDER to form new habits. Like I recently got an electric toothbrush and when it needs charging oh my god my entire world is thrown of whack. Another basic example is, I’ve been on twice daily medication for almost ten years. Do I still CONSTANTLY FORGET and not realise til I start getting withdrawals? Absolutely. I think part of it is my adhd makes my brain feel so frantic and cluttered all the time that trying to add anything I have to remotely think about (like reminding yourself to do something so that it eventually becomes a habit) feels so impossible.
Been sp hard to call my psych to achedule an appointment lol. Been off meds for a while.
@@Khronogi omg I literally have to get my family to force me to do this lmao - also making a phone call stresses me out I hate jt 😭
The boys were perfectly describing a mix between midwest emo...and weezer.
yeah viewing under consumption as something common for people below the poverty line is super flawed. upper middle class people are most capable of buying products made to last without buying many of them or buying replacements. upper class people get into over consumption when they stop considering the utility of these items and simply buy them for a current aesthetic, going too far and defeating the purpose of high quality replacements for single use items. working class people are likely to use things to their fullest extent, yes, but they are also likely to buy single use items like water bottles or even fast food because they simply don't have enough to invest in those things that make things cheaper long term. there are a few branches ive seen of the under consumption trend; one being buying quality items that don't need to be replaced often, another being using items until the end of their life like shoes or clothing, often things that were popular 5-10 years ago rather than buying new ones that fit current trends, and another is just reusing or pushing the limits of simple things like plastic containers or charging cables. It's a hard trend to get a grasp on, i think that many of the forms it takes are valid,and the message of avoiding current trends when you already have something else that works fine (like using a 5 year old hydroflask rather than buying a new stanley) is a net positive i think
Yeah it’s not that deep, they’re talking about things that poor people actually do that are becoming a “trend” LOL
@@savannahrorke6715 okay
this comment probably covers the trend better than the section in the podcast lol
jarvis and jordan saying the jersey and boston accent are the same in their brain is hurting me as a massachusetts resident 😭😭😭😭😭
same as a jersey person like please i know how to say the word room, bostonians do not!
@@keyarrmaI gotta know how you think we say room because it's no different in any accent I've ever heard 😂
@@keyarrmaBostonians talk so fucked up 😭 everytime my accent gets more bostonified I cry for 500 years
I had a friend in high school who would listen to Larry the cable guy on CD to fall asleep every night. I spent the night over her house 2 separate times and she did it both times. And it was on repeat. It was hard to sleep.
jarvis recognizing that whistling might bother people made me so happy, whistling is one of my biggest sound issues so i feel very happy that he cared
Jordan talking about how he finds it hard to do bedtime routines because he doesn’t have an unreliable bedtime and jarvis talking about buying gadgets you need but struggling to actually routinely use them i found myself nodding vigorously bc i get so much guilt sometimes around consumption in face of my adhd
Okay but Jordan *did* actually say the funniest thing and no one heard it with the reply to the library of Alexandria comment
The “here’s your sign” bit by Bill Engvall turned into an inside joke for his fan base. It’s based on the setup that stupid people should have to wear a sign so you know who they are, he then says something that someone did, and he implies handing them a sign that says they are stupid.
i think an interesting thing about the whole “wanting stuff to be aesthetic is shallow and bad” argument is that like. people by default like things that look nice. we like things that are pretty or fun or pleasing to the eye and that’s like extremely normal. and i feel like the modern world has often abandoned the concepts of like graphic design that’s meant to look good in favor of graphic design that’s meant to be insanely eye catching (and oftentimes ugly) on the store shelves. and in the past, cheap stuff was plain and boring, expensive fancy stuff was embellished. and we’ve flipped that completely to cheap stuff being embellished in a tacky, cheap way and expensive things being aesthetic and plain. no one wants their shower/kitchen to look like an advertisement with clashing colors and loud texts that reflect brands and drawing the eyes attention to them rather than the surrounding room that’s been decorated with the individuals personal wants. having things that are plain (not even pretty necessarily) is a privilege in this portion of hyper-advertising stage of capitalism. and if you can’t afford/don’t want to buy the products with packaging that assaults your eyeballs the next best thing is to find a cheap plain aesthetic package that diverts attention away from the product and allows the eye to focus on the room/actual decor that you’ve decorated your home in for your own pleasure, not just to look cookiecutter “good” and “aesthetic” for social media. it feels like the hyperunderconsumption core is oftentimes just trying to punish poor people for a) daring to engage in an inherently unsustainable capitalism system for things that aren’t basic needs and b) wanting to have a nice, pleasing space to live in by acting like any poor person who’s trying to curate their home in an affordable manner is just “over consuming” and trying to “copy the rich tik tok influencers they’re too poor to be like :(“ rather than realizing that poor people are people too and a lot of people naturally don’t LIKE to live in a place where they’re surrounded by things they don’t like looking at.
earliest i’ve ever made it to one of these can’t wait to see how sad these boys are today will update after viewing
(update 1) just got off work and have like half an hour left will update ASAP
(update 2) wow didn’t expect that much turkey in the straw content but nonetheless a great episode
sad boy party
hey man where’s the update
@@17kdiamond started watching it during work and thought i’d have more time to watch but don’t fret once i finish it will be updated
Update?😾
Scarlet and Violet actually do have a truck Pokemon lol, Varoom/Revavroom
I was thinking about that too, there's kinda 5 vehicle pokemon in Scarlet/Violet because of the Varoom line, the legendaries, and Cyclizar
Jarvis explaining how his mom went into debt to get him things is so tender.
The funny thing about the ice cream trucks is the song they play is somewhat regional. Here in NYC all of the mister softee trucks play "jingle and chimes" which was made for the company and apparently has non racist lyrics all about ice cream
i love Jordan's little zingers and Jarivs/Anastasia's giggle. I wish Sad Boyz were real.
The Sad Boyz look very coordinated, accessorized, and energized, and I like it!
Hurts my heart how expensive punk has become cause its not supposed to be!! Anything is punk, bright pink sneakers are punk especially if youve sewn that shit together to keep it from falling apart. Fixing old worn things is punk, painting your own shitty, cheap, low quality clothes is punk, making spikes out of soda cans is punk. Underconsumption could be punk, but it’s such a broad name for just an average life lmaoo.
The best thing about punk was cutting shit up instead of buying and even thrifting, being able to look messy and cobbled together in whatever way felt the most authentic,,,, newayz
Jarvis I've never related to someone more than your iPod story. I got an iPod Nano at like 13 for a combination birthday/Christmas gift, and no one told me the songs cost money, so I tried to use it for the first time and realized I'd just asked my parents to buy a paperweight because I knew I wasn't going to ask them to spend more money
I used Limewire religiously to burn CDs, but wasn't tech savvy enough to understand I could pirate music onto my iPod, so I listened to like three albums for years 🥳
jordan matching his glasses frames to his sweatshirt is such a slay
As someone who lives like this the name under consumption core chesses my onions, as it implies a distubingly capitalistic concept that your depriveing your self in some way rather than just not buying things you dont need, and that your doing so to look cool rather than just living in a way that's comfortable for one's self and comparatively cheep.
I thought that melody was "do your hears hang low, do they wobble to and fro, can you tie them in a knot? Can you tie them in a bow? Do your ears, hang, low." And then replace ears with other body parts to continue
Yes. Absolutely. I definitely did not sing about testicles in first grade
I love Jordan’s jokes, responses, or comments, a lot of under radar jokes or clap backs, especially hilarious when the camera is on Jarvis and you can hear his comedic chime in perfectly timed
Jarvis’ childhood is so relatable. Waiting in line at Walmart Layaway was a memory I hadn’t thought of in ages. We would get the thing on Layaway, but then my siblings and I had to share everything… we would get a new gaming console, but it was the gift for the 4 of us to share. Which was great for when other kids would ask what you got for Christmas, but not great when they’d ask if you could bring it over to their house 😂
34:44 the fact that people seemingly cannot create jarvis as a figurine.
the schools i worked in had those water fountains with the bottle fillers. both options worked and were allowed, but most students preferred to carry some sort of bottle and refill it. most had reusable ones but some would just refill the plastic one they had taken that day (what i do). there were some kids who's parents actually told them they weren't allowed to drink water from the fountains at all so their parents sent them with HUGE reusable bottles so they would have enough for the day without having to refill.
2:44 I'm shocked that the auto-generated subtitles actually correctly wrote out Mightning Laqueen 🤣🤣
54:45 what’s being billed as an “aesthetic” or “core” is just the natural way of life for lower class people. it’s an aesthetic for wealthy people to cosplay poverty. (like distressed clothing, we buy things and then use them until they are naturally distressed and worn because we have to. wealthy people buy pre-distressed clothing, wear it for a season, and then throw it out.) they cosplay poverty by mimicking the result of everyday people attempting to get by. “aesthetic” implies choice. under-consumption can only be chosen by people who have the ability to choose to consume more. of course wearing the same shoes until the soles fall off isn’t an aesthetic, i wouldn’t go through that discomfort if i had another option.
I cannot get over Jordan's glasses matching the sweatshirt. It's my favourite color and I am amazed
as someone who grew up in the south, watching the blue collar comedy tour dvd over and over while camping- listening to y'all discuss foxworthy and engvall jokes was a transcendent experience.
Schools in my area have fountains that are designed to fill up a cup or water bottle instead of the ones where you drink right from the spout, they’ve been around since I was in high school, as the old fountains broke or were deemed unsafe they’d get replaced with the bottle- style ones instead
My favorite part of having ADHD bad memory (the only positive) is I can re- watch episodes. there’s so many moments in the episode that I do not remember
the double head turn at 44:43 is taking me out 😭
omg I didn't catch that 💀
I'll once again take this opportunity to encourage people to check out Aja Barber and buy her book "Consumed" cause honestly she breaks down consumerism so well-- it's not just tks tsk'ing at people for not going zero waste but kind of highlighting how it's INSANE that the systems in place have made the low-quality, programmed-obsolecense, single-use plastic option the DEFAULT at the expense of people and planet
Jarvis talking about how he wishes he could just code better habits is so relatable like; why can't I logic my way out of this situation??!?? What am I supposed to do???
you guys are taking the ‘same birthday’ shtick very far, twin boyz…
My grandpa was work friends with Jeff Foxworthy back in the 80s. His comedy isn’t really my thing, but grandpa only has nice things to say about the guy. Just felt like sharing 🤷🏻♀️
I did not expect Blue Collar Comedy Tour to ever come up but I'm so glad it did because I actually know the reference! Watched that special almost every weekend at my besties house in jr high
I’m screaming Revavroom rn please guys
Jarvis is a Violet Scarlet poser
as an australian i'm disappointed that i didn't coin the term "having a sleepo on my beddo"
the "under-consumption core" thing is such a bizarre way to present a reality most people just live in. Like its well-intentioned in wanting to remind people they don't have to buy unnecessary products all the time but, as they pointed out, the language around it seems flawed. I feel like this trend is forgetting that the way people buy and use products comes out of necessity. working class people use something til it's worn down to the point u cannot use it anymore for the same reason they buy single-use products at the same time, out of necessity. It would be nice to get and invest in a well-made, durable product that doesn't need constant replacing, but it is also definitely more expensive. I don't wanna be too negative about this if it gets some people to think more about the products they buy, but I hope people dont lose sight of that message just for another new aesthetic
It's interesting to me that they talk about under consumption in a "spend less money" way because to me it's not about the money, even though I don't have much anyway, but it's more about knowing and feeling fully, that consumption is horrible for humanity, for the planet, for everything honestly. And every time I buy something, even just at the grocery store, I think about "is this neccessary? Is this packed in too much plastic?" etc. It's just the awareness that I have an impact on the World and I want to be conscious of the fact that I want to have a positive impact. So i buy less clothing but clothing that's natural fibres, I crochet a lot of stuff I need so I don't have to buy the stuff and not know how it was produced, I use items until they are broken, not when I feel like buying something new. I don't know, I guess that's just what I was expecting when I heard under consumed but I never really went into what that "trend" really is to people
1:05:00 I feel like kids these days don't know about piracy until MUCH later in life, if at all. I was downloading games, software, movies, fan-subbed anime, manga, all by the age of 11 lol. Today, I am blessed enough to afford the products I like, but I will always support piracy if you can't afford something because it's not like the producer is losing out on your sale anyway if the options are to either pirate it or not get it at all.
I ended up buying all the products i pirated back in the day lol
@@Khronogi I don't think I ever paid for diablo 2, but it's not like the money would go to those original devs, anyway. I do support their current projects, though. I also don't know how I'd pay for old movies lol.
one of my formative memories is my dad teaching me how to use limewire to download music when i was like 10, first to burn cds and then to put on my first mp3 player when i turned 13. i feel like streaming has removed a lot of the barriers that drove people to piracy in the first place, since now all you have to do is launch an app on your smartphone to listen to pretty much whatever you want whenever you want, where 15 years ago you had to acquire the specific music you wanted to listen to somehow, typically with money, which children do not tend to have. that's also true for movies/tv shows (good luck legally watching most anime as a 13 year old in 2005), but the driving force for me to learn how piracy worked was definitely music
i love that they’re fully immersed in a pokemon go discussion less than 2 minutes into the episode
35:30 not white Jarvis on Jordans shoulder 😭😭
That was cracking me up! 😄
Turkey in the straw wiki page goes CRAZY holy shit
Omg they found the watermelon one too, I was wondering if they would 😭
21:20 every single bit jordan does makes me laugh so hard it scares me
Jarvis has so much random knowledge. I love it!
I hate over-consumption, but under-consumption tiktok has become so annoying it makes me wanna go out and buy 29 stanley cups out of spite
That just gave me a funny conspiracy idea what if companies are intentionally hiring people to make under consumption TikTok’s to make people buy their products out of spite
The under consumption convo really veered to salary/class talk, but I think it's less about how much you're spending and more about wasteful buying in an ecological sense
@@TheLalalalanithe people who need to hear about under consumption just bought another car so I don't think it ever really could've been taken 100% seriously
Thrifting, reusing items, not buying new things every season does ultimately originate from poverty. And people who live below the poverty line will balance time, money and convenience.
Listen i like underconsumption but this whole thing on tiktok of telling people they can’t buy things they want like lets say something expensive, is a little weird
agreed. it’s gotten to a point where people can’t even share their hobbies anymore without people shaming them for buying stuff
one of my first days at work at a gas station some old guy "here's your sign"ed me for taking too long to get his cigarettes and in retaliation i asked to see his ID and they transferred me out from the register after that
Absolutely loving the color scheme going on today!! Y'all look great and it's been a wonderful podcast as always. Thanks for sharing your time with us!
I feel like Jordan's jokes never get the laughs they deserve
Jarvis took me back to my first ipod video and history on the high seas. I spent so much time renaming files. I had an amazing collection that I transferred from hard drive to hard drive for years.
Jarvis not mentioning the actual car pokemon revavroom was disappointing, it would have blown Jordans mind
Good news the loans probably defaulted and no one paid them (unless there was money in your mom's estate). 🤗 You can't collect from someone who's passed. Also, i didn't know that and I'm sorry you had to go through that as a kid.
0:00 - 0:39 yapping
0:40 - 0:52 the greatest joke ever told
0:53 - 1:24:39 yapping
Ron White actually had a pretty great joke about calling out his friend’s homophobia.
Justice for Cyclizar.
Justice for varoom and revavroom, too 😔 and the ride Pokémon in Sun & Moon. 😔😔
Lapras...
@@jadidou221 Lapras is a Pokémon you can ride on but it isn't a vehicle
@@twoloavesofbread I spent the first 10 minutes going "WHAT ABOUT REVAVROOM?!"
I LOVE the spontaneous deep dive on the ice cream tune 😂😂
At 49:20, the chorus is eerily similar to 'Zip-a-dee-doo-dah' from _Song of the South_ 👀 Might be a coincidence but 😬