"Lamar has 5 losses" - Bro, 2 of them was literally because Tucker can't kick this season. If Tucker had made most of his field goals, he would only have 3 losses. Second, Allen can play WAY WORSE and his team still wins (thanks in part due to his weak schedule and weak division). He had 5 games with a passer rating under 90, and he won 3 of them. Lamar had 2 games with a passer rating under 90, and lost both. Lets raise the bar to passer rating under 100: Lamar had 4 games with a passer rating under 100, and won 1 of them. Allen had 6, and won 4 of them.
ONE QB drafted after 2009 has won in the Superbowl since Lamar entered the league: Patrick Mahomes. Not Allen, not Burrow, not Herbert... This stupid narrative needs to stop.
Odee you can tell from all of yesterday's segments. They all couldn't stop laughing. Everything was so funny to Acho, I'm like bro stop laughing.. You know for a fact they were going crazy on him. But on SPEAK 🗣️ she was looking so confident in herself, like I'm that *****
ONE QB drafted after 2009 has won in the Superbowl since Lamar entered the league: Patrick Mahomes. Not Allen, not Burrow, not Herbert... This stupid narrative needs to stop.
So we care when he was bad but when the argument was he never made a afc championship game and he got there off a great game it don't matter lmao you clowns are exhausting
@ I disagree. The teams in the second round are way harder than the first round. I mean look at the Texans. Do you think they’re gonna be there in week 2?
@@clickman443but beating up on horrible first round wild card week quarterbacks should be celebrated?🤔 Josh Allen is about to face a rookie Bo Nix...n ya gon celebrate that if he wins... But when Lamar blew out CJ Stroud last year, ya say he's a rookie😒....that's the problem with ya, ya don't keeep the same energy.....ya want Josh Allen to be ya wonder boy so bad
@@alexwinters5362lmao. Your mom did a great job handing out participation trophies to you as a kid, it shows. Why are young dudes nowadays so low T, Jesus Christ
10:06 Lamar had 4 total TD 121 passer rating and over 200 yard vs Texans last playoffs. To put in prespective. Joe Burrow had 5 total TD and 2 INT in 4 games when they made the Super Bowl.
Tell us about how Lamar avg 13 points in the playoffs to put that in to context Josh avg 28 in the playoffs and burrow avg 24 in the playoffs I would do patty but it’s to many games to avg out prob around 30
@@angelgreenfield5919 oh I didn’t know CJ was playing defense? And Lamar vs chiefs actually played better than borrow did vs titans and raiders. Tittans QB had 4 TO
I could have about 5-6 QBs that achieved more success in the playoffs with a lesser roster and no MVPs. Thats the real issue, play better in the playoffs.
@@scottyc9917 Not really. Every QB is graded on playoff performance. The farther you make it, the better we consider you... especially if you were a driving force of that team. Everyone thinks differently of Newton, McNabb, Marino, Tarkenton, Kelly, and McNair because they made it to the big one. Even though they never won it, it's a big deal they made it that far. Then you have guys like Warren Moon and Phillip Rivers who will always be seen in a lower tier cause they couldn't even make an appearance.
Thats a lie they move the goal posts for Josh every year, he was just voted overrated by his peers but he gone show all yall just how overrated he is with a league mvp a superbowl win and a superbowl mvp
@@leewilliams2477💀. The rhetoric behind Josh Allen is hilarious. I think he is a top three quarterback. He is a superstar. But the goal post for his expectations get moved every single year. People will say that he’s the second best quarterback or he’s better than Lamar but then we also make excuses for him not getting to the Super Bowl or his expectations is not Super Bowl or bust. He actually has an elite team and people fail to acknowledge that. When you are the caliber of quarterback like Josh, Patrick or Lamar, if you make it to the playoffs, the expectation is to win the Super Bowl or as a failure. I definitely believe Josh can do it, but the reason Raven‘s fans get upset at this type of narrative is because it’s never the same for any other quarterback. But then they would like to say oh he has two MVPs, but will still call 3 to 4 of the quarterbacks better than Lamar. Just doesn’t make sense.
This is the most empty garbage people post. At 14 games into the season Allen didn’t even play three of his afc eat games. Bills were 11-3. Ravens were 9-5 😂. Of the two AFC East games he did play, two were against miami with Tua in the game. Say what you want about the dolphins. But when he plays. Fins have a better win percentage than the Steelers At that same 14 game point Lamar lost to Raiders Browns and Cowboys 😂😂. Josh beat jets titans and jags Lamar lost to Steelers. Josh beat miami with Tua. Lamar lost to chiefs. Josh beat chiefs. Lamar lost to eagles. Josh beat lions. Lamar lost 3 games to teams not even in the playoffs. Josh lost only 3 games and all of those teams are in playoffs. You need to watch some football before commenting
When they talk about failure somehow they bring up Lamar ...But they are looking to praise QBs they bring up Burrow and Allen....I need to know how many rings Allen and Burrow have ....
I agree Josh doesn’t get the same smoke but Lamar has been MVP caliber for so long, he has nothing left to do but win it all. I think Lamar can be better than Josh.
Unless Josh wins mvp this year, I wouldn’t hold him to the same standard as Lamar… Lamar has a way better team and coach than Josh and I don’t think you could even argue that. 9 pro bowlers with Derrick freaking Henry in your back field and your defense starting to play better lately.. bro you SHOULD get to a Super Bowl with that team. Even last year, he had the best defense outside of KC.. he gotta get there this year. It’s nothing wrong with holding players to that standard considering how good he’s been
Before the season began when the Ravens picked up Derrick Henry and the Eagles picked up Saqoan Barkley, I picked a Bird Superbowl! I'm still standing by my pick! ❤
@THE_BEAR_JEW Plus, they are both on a team with good receivers, and they have the 2 best Running Quarterbacks in the NFL who are proven winners 🏆 but believe Philly offensive line and defense is just a little bit better 😉
Lamar is objectively better than Josh if this is the argument made. for Josh its just “do your best bud! maybe we’ll give you an MVP cus Lamar has 2.” but for Lamar its “Win the superbowl or your 2 mvp career is a failure” lol
Josh lost after throwing 5 TDs and 13 seconds left on the clock, Lamar fumbled and threw an INT into triple coverage. His biggest win is against a rookie QB and coach playing his first playoffs. Don't say they did the same thing.
@@AilmanF2P You conveniently ignored that the real cost of the game was that last drive where Flowers got a big penatly, and fumbled the ball at the goal line. And a rookie who was top 3 in yards per attempt, 2nd in the league in gross pass yards, led the league in fewest picks, led the league in lowest interception rate, most passing attempts without an interception to start a career in NFL history, most passing yards and most TDs in a game by a rookie in NFL history.
why do people act like lamars 4 td game vs the texans last year did not happen. the wild card game vs the titans lamar won that game. the 2019 lost to the titans he had 500 yards of offense.
Because they're stupid at best and racist at worst. Everybody forgets tannehills 4 TOs and an after TD whistle to beat the raiders on Burrows ONE playoff run but since lamar wasn't perfect in all 5 playoff runs he's a failure.
@@AilmanF2P A rookie who was top 3 in yards per attempt, 2nd in the league in gross pass yards, led the league in fewest picks, led the league in lowest interception rate, most passing attempts without an interception to start a career in NFL history, most passing yards and most TDs in a game by a rookie in NFL history. If Bo Nix and Jayden gonna get their praise, give CJ his praise. The CJ disrespect is crazy.
You're one of those cases of manipulating stats. Yes, the pass defense was 32nd... but the defense was 9th in points allowed. Last I checked, points determine games.
@@AilmanF2P Better numbers and a Superteam around him especially on offense and Lamar blew him out while Purdy was handing out picks like free candy. While Lamar was throwing to nothing and was basically their RB as well. Forgot that detail huh? And the Brows, Jets, Chiefs, Panthers, and Cowboys had a higher ranked total defense than the Ravens. When will you guys stop...
Is Josh Allen season without a superbowl a failure (Joe borrow already failed) Is Justin Herbert season a failure We not gonna let yall get away with the narratives
@@dwilliams380 Yes lol. you can fail without being mvp… but you have to agree there are different levels of failure. If 3-peat Lamar on his most historic season cannot win the Super Bowl, get to the Super Bowl- that is a colossal failure. Coach will definitely be fired.
Facts....agreed....plus, bashing of the black quarterback sells.....especially for the people who still want to keep white men playing at the quarterback position...smh
No that’s how you know Lamar is a premier talent like Josh, Lamar has had the better career so far but this season I would take Josh over Lamar every day.
@@OnlyMorale why bring race into this, the “best” known QB right now is Patrick a light skin dude and the best “dual threat” guy is Lamar. Why are you bringing up something that’s old and forgotten. If people think that let them be in their own world
@@kinge8098 why don't they ask this same question for Josh Allen?🤔... And as far as Patrick mahomes, white America doesn't look at Patrick mahomes as a threat....plus, look at the wife Patrick mahomes chose......but guys who look like Lamar Jackson(tatted up, braids, Grills)feel like that's not the guy who should be playing the quarterback position.....is it about race....
lmaoooooo, stop it, he's nowhere near Josh Allen in no kind of way, Allen has more career wins, better career stats, better playoff numbers, lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs my guy, 9 tds and 9 turnovers, Allen is 5-5 , like 25 td's and 2 turnovers, best td to int ratio in the history of the game, you wanna talk mvp's Allen will get his in a month lj has two, Allen beat lamar in the playoffs a few years back, it's not close head to head i believe Allen is up one game, they'll never have a playoff failure convo about Allen because he always show up and show out, his team lets him down, we know what Allen is gonna do, were trying to figure out how a guy lays better in the regular season then shrinks up in the playoffs, can you tell me how?
@@dominicannick not all of it. He literally said the defense and run games have won them their playoff games. Let’s say that’s true. Until this year, Lamar was 60%+ of the Ravens run game. Himbeing the biggest rushing and passing threat was never going to win a Super Bowl.
You are not trippin. It’s like those losses from when he was 21 and 22 years old hold all the weight. Like he wasn’t in the afc championship game last year
@@big_texas4255that’s a valid point. But fans are the critics of both the players/teams and the critics. That’s our check on the system. The point of Daniels having too how of a criticism on LJ8 is a valid point as well
I have no issue with people expecting Lamar to win a superbowl but you can’t constantly try to ignore Lamar 2 MVP when it comes to who are the best QB after Patrick Mahommes but then use his 2 MVP against him to put expectations and call him a failure when y’all don’t do that on players yall try to put over him such as Allen and Burrow.
Well Allen and burrow doesn’t have a mvp. I feel Allen will finally win one this year so he should be held at that standard as Lamar once that happens but Lamar has the better team and individual accolades… he should get to a Super Bowl this year. There’s no excuses.
Dude they give Allen heat all the time and Josh has 81 more touchdowns than Lamar does in the last five years. I think Lamar is great. The one who should really catch heat is Burrow I’m always hearing about Burrow yet the guy missed the playoffs the last two years. Josh took a team in a “rebuild” year to the 2 seed.
Media: “Josh Allen & Joe Burrow are better than Lamar” Also Media: “Lamar is a 2x MVP he needs a SB” Fans: “If those 2 are better than Lamar then how come you don’t hold them to that same standard?” Media: “Because they don’t have MVP’s, he does” Fans: “Ok so with your logic, isn’t Lamar better than them?” Media: “No.”
TERRY BRADSHAW GOT 4 SUPERBOWLS .. TROY AIKMAN GOT 3 SUPERBOWLS .. NOBODY EVER SAID THEY WERE BETTER THAN DAN MARINO .. LAMAR JACKSON HAS PROVED THAT HE'S A GREAT QB .. WHEN MANY 'EXPERTS' SAID HE COULDN'T PLAY THE POSITION .. SUPERBOWLS ARE A TEAM STAT .. NOT AN INDIVIDUAL HONOR ..
As a huge Ravens and Lamar fan, I actually think it’s a compliment. The bar is higher for Lamar than those other guys, in part because of the two (or 3) MVPs, but also because he has (personally and as a team) what it takes to win Super Bowls. He definitely should have won last year - they were blowing out the best teams, until the end. And he also should this year, even though it will be more challenging.
Y’all say y’all want Lamar to go to the Super Bowl” idc if he wins just make sure he get there”. But in the same token y’all gonna say you got there but didn’t win the big game.
They should be a way that Lamar Jackson gets paid by these people. So many people are earning a living talking about him. It’s so insane. These guys did not talk about the playoff matchups or coaches. Nothing just Lamar.
@byronsmith3152 dude stop it. Its usually sympathy and excuses for burrows. Lamar takes his team to the playoffs every year hes healthy. Burrows has missed the playoffs twice
Lamar may be 2-4 in the playoffs, but he's had 2 first round byes and he lead a 4-5 Ravens team his rookie season to the playoffs by going 6-1 as a starter.
As a Ravens fan I'm thankful to have Lamar. Win or lose it's a good feeling knowing you have a guy you LOVE to root for. I cant imagine wanting anyone else. Go back to 2019 when Bills and Ravens fans were best friends bc we both felt like we drafted our guy. Fast forward to 2024 we both don't have a ring BUT any real fan wouldn't trade their player for the hardware anyways. Its not easy to get a ring so you might as well have fun, look cool, and love the people you do it with. Everyone's who not a fan of these two or their teams will NEVER stop berating them but it does not affect our love for them. Quote me!
Lamar has *NEVER* played well in the playoffs. That Texas game must have been the running game and defense 😂😂😂 like Lamar hasn’t been 65% of the running game until this year
Not true at all it’s different expectations for different caliber of QB’s.For instance if Jayden Daniels doesn’t win it’s not a failure because no one expected him to whereas for someone like Mahomes , Lamar and Josh are expected to be there and win.
@@daquaylenavie3740 So why don't they mention Josh Allen as well then?🤔why they gotta mention Lamar first? They've been crying that Josh Allen is the best player all season....why don't they speak about they're "best player" first?😒 Why it gotta be Lamar first?😒
@@OnlyMorale fair I always find it weird they don’t bring up Josh he’s made one AFCCG and since then he’s gotten bounced in the divisional round every year. If Josh wins MVP this year ( which is likely ) then they both should be held to the same standards moving forward because regardless if Josh performs well in the postseason he doesn’t have a ring either.
i hate when they say things like "oh well josh gave us that performance against Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs that one time"... bro WHO CARES?! you can't hang a performance up on a banner in your stadium so who gives a damn?.. my main issue with this whole thing is the media has SUCCESSFULLY created a double edge sword of narratives to use against lamar.. they say the QB with the most pressure to succeed in the playoffs is Lamar every single time because he's held to a higher standard due to his MVP's.. but yet year in and year out when they do QB rankings coming into the new season the list is ALWAYS 1. Pat 2. Joe 3. Josh 4. Lamar or it's Josh at 2 and Joe at 3.. but it's NEVER lamar at 2.. so how in the world is the QB you rank as 4th best under the most pressure and scrutiny but the guys at 2 & 3 that yall rank above him get a pass?.. if the reason is "because he has MVP's" then let that ALSO be the reason yall rank him AHEAD of Joe & Josh.
Lamar is only going to be 28 he still going to win every year no matter what so he will have a chance. Mahome every year get these good recievers but yall want to say he Don't have anything. The bills have a good team or they wouldn't be second seed. Superbowl is a team success, Lamar are going have to play the best he can.
They NEVER talk about Lamar's most recent playoff run, SMOKING the Texans 34-10, then losing to the chiefs because they ran the ball a record low amount of times and Zay's fumble in the endzone. But they will still talk about Joe Burrows ONE Super Bowl appearance 3 years ago.
@@jakieresykes3644 hard to score when your WR fumbles in the end zone/getting penalized for taunting, your RBs have a franchise low of 6 carries and 23 yards. and your coaches are calling pass plays on 3th&1, then going for it on 4th&1 and calling a pass play again. also 8 penalties for 100 yards. Cant blame Lamar
Winning a championship is an accomplishment, never a failure. Even when Mahomes and Brady won, it was an accomplishment. When they didn't, it wasn't a failure.
It’s always a failure if Lamar don’t make it but it’s never a failure if Josh Allen joe burrow Trevor Lawrence Justin Herbert and the other young new white QBs never make it lmao
These “white” qbs don’t have mvps lol. Why is it so offensive to yall when expectations are put on a great player? I’m not a ravens fan but I wouldn’t be mad if the media was on my qb neck like this because I’m assuming dude must be that good lol
What are you talking about. The last 2 seasons clearly were failures for Burrow and Lawrence. And Lawrence is so far below Lamar at this point that he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Obviously a mediocre season for Lamar is a great season for Lawrence lol. Most would also view Allen's last season as a failure because they didn't get past the Chiefs and reach the SB.
Use common sense shows structure racism let me explain Joe Burrow didn't go playoffs Chase Daniels just said he #2 Qb😂Media dont want destroy image,Trevor Lawrence 2nd yr had #1 pick 3 out 4 yrs no playoffs media dont destroy image Justin Herbert have 0 playoff wins 😂Remember Lamar won mvp media pushing agenda everyday he can't win playoffs these people are Evil let's be real,Josh Allen haven't went to Super bowl trying give him Mvp didn't he didn't earn because voter fatigue Lamar jackson media try destroy image how great he is look Lamar keep push goal post Remember he 5 Qb in draft exceeded all there Careers not even close,Caucasian qb don't win dont push it to destroy image instead use formula attack Black Qb look at Dak when didn't make playoffs media saying them get another Qb,Caleb williams rookie criticism on him everyday never criticize Trevor Lawrence who loosing 65% games Understand people run shows Espn an Fs1 are racist it's just structure Joe Burrow not in playoffs using stats an blame defense Burrow threw ball almost 700 times looses on him pass at high rate defense stay on field more
Is this the same show that made non stop excuses for Joe Burrow missing the playoffs 🤔 but will turn around and say LJ season is a failure if he doesn't make a Superbowl! If Josh Allen wins MVP this year and doesn't win a superbowl is his season a failure? Bet we never get that segment smh
Lamar didn’t choose to win 2 MVPs they were given to him cause they voted for him and then use that against him when he loses to Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, so saying you have to hold him to a higher standard for an award that, while im sure he is happy he won, he didn’t choose to win nor was it really even his goal to win is not fair for him imo
But last year y'all said the Ravens do not have a good receiving cord but flowers Y'all did not like 7 Batman Y'all said King Henry was washed up now they doing good now y'all saying they got more people than Buffalo you can't make this up
Agree, no you shouldn't ask the 22 year old kid that doesn't know anything what he wants. That's the job for the organization, to put the teams and players with the best people. At 22 he has no clue what he needs to get better and the team to succeed.
Chase Is wrong Lamar Jackson's legacy is not his playoff failures, it's him surpassing all the doubts and expectations of him and being a two time mvp.
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"Lamar has 5 losses" - Bro, 2 of them was literally because Tucker can't kick this season. If Tucker had made most of his field goals, he would only have 3 losses. Second, Allen can play WAY WORSE and his team still wins (thanks in part due to his weak schedule and weak division). He had 5 games with a passer rating under 90, and he won 3 of them. Lamar had 2 games with a passer rating under 90, and lost both. Lets raise the bar to passer rating under 100: Lamar had 4 games with a passer rating under 100, and won 1 of them. Allen had 6, and won 4 of them.
Who employed these people?
Acho is a distraction. What is Fox Sports doing allowing him on air with all the drama happening with him and Joy!?
ONE QB drafted after 2009 has won in the Superbowl since Lamar entered the league:
Patrick Mahomes.
Not Allen, not Burrow, not Herbert...
This stupid narrative needs to stop.
Shady a pure 💯 hater
Acho has experienced more joy than any Bears fan has experienced this decade
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That’s a bar😂
lol. That’s some good cheeks thou.
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I can imagine all the jokes Shady and James had for Acho lol
Odee you can tell from all of yesterday's segments. They all couldn't stop laughing. Everything was so funny to Acho, I'm like bro stop laughing.. You know for a fact they were going crazy on him. But on SPEAK 🗣️ she was looking so confident in herself, like I'm that *****
Probably just high fives
Shady probably the one who smashed
For what? Smashing some chick… it’s high fives all around my guy
Shady low key is just a 🤡 I say that to say he definitely smashed Joy because his boy smashed Joy never understood how this is a flex
Man we want Joy back, she knows ball.
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Why tf do we do this every week. Count up how many times Acho has done this exact segment. Jesus Christ
He hates Lamar you can tell these mfs
It’s cause Acho is diddy
Acho is an African tether who hates how authentically black American Lamar is, it’s all jealousy
@@MuhammadAli71835So any Black man that *allegedly* has relations with a woman is "Diddy" now?
ONE QB drafted after 2009 has won in the Superbowl since Lamar entered the league:
Patrick Mahomes.
Not Allen, not Burrow, not Herbert...
This stupid narrative needs to stop.
Yall straight disrespectful saying Lamar didn’t play well against the Texas to get to a title game. Fool had 4 total TDs.
No one in the comments cares about that
So we care when he was bad but when the argument was he never made a afc championship game and he got there off a great game it don't matter lmao you clowns are exhausting
I instantly ran to the comments💀
Me too, I'm petty 😂😂
Dam ma too lolol
Same 😂
Same 😂
Me too fam
Before Peyton Manning won his first SB, in his 9th season, he was a 2x MVP and 3-6 in the playoffs. So misleading of this show
Yeah and it was constantly talked about how he was not good enough.
Right but the argument is that he has gone to the SB. Multiple MVP's but no SB appearance.
@MrAviam2010 Peyton also did not go to the Super Bowl until his 9th season and had won 2 MVPs by then
Peyton Manning was on GOAT trajectory until his post season short comings caught up with him.
Manning is a top 2-4 QB, stop it. Peyton also went to 4 Super Bowls.
Acho talking sports like it matters today, the viewers are in totally different mindset.
Maybe cause it’s a sports show . Yall grown men in the comments acting like teenage girls
sports isn’t that much more productive.
They don’t ever talk about Lamar having Two first round Bye’s in the playoffs. Something Josh has never done.
Honestly 2 first round byes should count as 2 playoff wins
No it should count as win. Any eleite qb can beat wild card teams@@clickman443
@ I disagree. The teams in the second round are way harder than the first round. I mean look at the Texans. Do you think they’re gonna be there in week 2?
@@clickman443but beating up on horrible first round wild card week quarterbacks should be celebrated?🤔
Josh Allen is about to face a rookie Bo Nix...n ya gon celebrate that if he wins...
But when Lamar blew out CJ Stroud last year, ya say he's a rookie😒....that's the problem with ya, ya don't keeep the same energy.....ya want Josh Allen to be ya wonder boy so bad
@@alexwinters5362lmao. Your mom did a great job handing out participation trophies to you as a kid, it shows. Why are young dudes nowadays so low T, Jesus Christ
Acho discussed his opinion with Joy during their pillow talk this morning so he could be ready for today's show.
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Yeah it’s a shame people can’t keep their personal business to themselves. Or people can’t just go to work do the job and be quiet.
@@WillieHouff-y9w yeah being quiet about a toxic work cculture is extremely healthy 👍
Is Joy a failure without your fingers Acho?
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10:06 Lamar had 4 total TD 121 passer rating and over 200 yard vs Texans last playoffs. To put in prespective. Joe Burrow had 5 total TD and 2 INT in 4 games when they made the Super Bowl.
the texans lead by a rookie and first year coach. Tell us how he did the next week when they actually needed him to show up.
Tell us about how Lamar avg 13 points in the playoffs to put that in to context Josh avg 28 in the playoffs and burrow avg 24 in the playoffs I would do patty but it’s to many games to avg out prob around 30
@@angelgreenfield5919 oh I didn’t know CJ was playing defense? And Lamar vs chiefs actually played better than borrow did vs titans and raiders. Tittans QB had 4 TO
1 game vs a team that was not even supposed to be there, lmfao. How did he look vs the Chiefs?
@byronsmith3152 he played better then mahomes look at the numbers. It was a 1 score game. 😂
Mahomes, Stafford and Rodgers are the ONLY active QBs with a ring, no one else gets this scrutiny
That’s what I’m saying, now they counting Super Bowl appearances 🤣🤣.. when it comes to Lamar they move the goal post 🤣🤣🤣
Wilson have a ring
I could have about 5-6 QBs that achieved more success in the playoffs with a lesser roster and no MVPs. Thats the real issue, play better in the playoffs.
@@scottyc9917 Not really. Every QB is graded on playoff performance. The farther you make it, the better we consider you... especially if you were a driving force of that team.
Everyone thinks differently of Newton, McNabb, Marino, Tarkenton, Kelly, and McNair because they made it to the big one. Even though they never won it, it's a big deal they made it that far.
Then you have guys like Warren Moon and Phillip Rivers who will always be seen in a lower tier cause they couldn't even make an appearance.
Joe Flacco
Josh Allen get all the praise and no expectations just chilling in AFC East.
Thats a lie they move the goal posts for Josh every year, he was just voted overrated by his peers but he gone show all yall just how overrated he is with a league mvp a superbowl win and a superbowl mvp
Exactly lol smh
@@leewilliams2477 so why they're not asking this same question for Josh Allen?🤔
@@leewilliams2477💀. The rhetoric behind Josh Allen is hilarious. I think he is a top three quarterback. He is a superstar. But the goal post for his expectations get moved every single year. People will say that he’s the second best quarterback or he’s better than Lamar but then we also make excuses for him not getting to the Super Bowl or his expectations is not Super Bowl or bust. He actually has an elite team and people fail to acknowledge that. When you are the caliber of quarterback like Josh, Patrick or Lamar, if you make it to the playoffs, the expectation is to win the Super Bowl or as a failure. I definitely believe Josh can do it, but the reason Raven‘s fans get upset at this type of narrative is because it’s never the same for any other quarterback. But then they would like to say oh he has two MVPs, but will still call 3 to 4 of the quarterbacks better than Lamar. Just doesn’t make sense.
This is the most empty garbage people post. At 14 games into the season Allen didn’t even play three of his afc eat games. Bills were 11-3. Ravens were 9-5 😂. Of the two AFC East games he did play, two were against miami with Tua in the game. Say what you want about the dolphins. But when he plays. Fins have a better win percentage than the Steelers
At that same 14 game point
Lamar lost to Raiders Browns and Cowboys 😂😂. Josh beat jets titans and jags Lamar lost to Steelers.
Josh beat miami with Tua.
Lamar lost to chiefs. Josh beat chiefs. Lamar lost to eagles. Josh beat lions. Lamar lost 3 games to teams not even in the playoffs. Josh lost only 3 games and all of those teams are in playoffs. You need to watch some football before commenting
This ring glazing has damaged the fans appreciation for sports
When they talk about failure somehow they bring up Lamar ...But they are looking to praise QBs they bring up Burrow and Allen....I need to know how many rings Allen and Burrow have ....
uhh I believe they both have 0 rings bro.
They actually play well in the playoffs, thats the issue. Lamar controls that narrative.
@@AilmanF2Pit don’t matter if you still ain’t win ..
I was just going to say that it does not count on how good you play in the play off if you dont win it all what are we talking about here@410_hurt4
@@AilmanF2P neither won the Super Bowl or have any MVP as of yet and they are saying Lamar is top 3 smh
If Lamar’s season is a failure Josh’s season would be a failure. Stop saying Josh better than Lamar without giving him the same expectations.
I agree Josh doesn’t get the same smoke but Lamar has been MVP caliber for so long, he has nothing left to do but win it all. I think Lamar can be better than Josh.
I completely agree with you 💯
@@FranklinDBluthhe already is better
@@nikes4444No he's definitely not 😂
Unless Josh wins mvp this year, I wouldn’t hold him to the same standard as Lamar… Lamar has a way better team and coach than Josh and I don’t think you could even argue that. 9 pro bowlers with Derrick freaking Henry in your back field and your defense starting to play better lately.. bro you SHOULD get to a Super Bowl with that team. Even last year, he had the best defense outside of KC.. he gotta get there this year. It’s nothing wrong with holding players to that standard considering how good he’s been
I bet money they never did a "is burrow season a failure for not making playoffs" since he's better according to them
Right!!!! Just the playoffs 😂😂😂😂. He only makes the playoffs when Lamar is hurt
They literally just made one what are you talking bout 😭
They did lol
Before the season began when the Ravens picked up Derrick Henry and the Eagles picked up Saqoan Barkley, I picked a Bird Superbowl! I'm still standing by my pick! ❤
Same. Henry and Saquon aren't normal lol. Every time I watch em they do some superhero shi*.
@THE_BEAR_JEW Plus, they are both on a team with good receivers, and they have the 2 best Running Quarterbacks in the NFL who are proven winners 🏆 but believe Philly offensive line and defense is just a little bit better 😉
@@teddyrock1740Philly just got a better OLine and DLine
Lamar is objectively better than Josh if this is the argument made. for Josh its just “do your best bud! maybe we’ll give you an MVP cus Lamar has 2.” but for Lamar its “Win the superbowl or your 2 mvp career is a failure” lol
😂😂😂😂. This is on point
Josh lost after throwing 5 TDs and 13 seconds left on the clock, Lamar fumbled and threw an INT into triple coverage. His biggest win is against a rookie QB and coach playing his first playoffs. Don't say they did the same thing.
@@AilmanF2P You conveniently ignored that the real cost of the game was that last drive where Flowers got a big penatly, and fumbled the ball at the goal line.
And a rookie who was top 3 in yards per attempt, 2nd in the league in gross pass yards, led the league in fewest picks, led the league in lowest interception rate, most passing attempts without an interception to start a career in NFL history, most passing yards and most TDs in a game by a rookie in NFL history.
@@RrRookiEeELet’s talk about the interception he threw into double coverage
@@AilmanF2P both haven't make it to a SB and that makes both of them a failure
What a Joy to see this
why do people act like lamars 4 td game vs the texans last year did not happen. the wild card game vs the titans lamar won that game. the 2019 lost to the titans he had 500 yards of offense.
Because they're stupid at best and racist at worst. Everybody forgets tannehills 4 TOs and an after TD whistle to beat the raiders on Burrows ONE playoff run but since lamar wasn't perfect in all 5 playoff runs he's a failure.
Because that wouldnt fit the propaganda
Your biggest win is against a rookie QB playing his first playoffs, thats something you're bragging about?
@@AilmanF2P A rookie who was top 3 in yards per attempt, 2nd in the league in gross pass yards, led the league in fewest picks, led the league in lowest interception rate, most passing attempts without an interception to start a career in NFL history, most passing yards and most TDs in a game by a rookie in NFL history.
If Bo Nix and Jayden gonna get their praise, give CJ his praise. The CJ disrespect is crazy.
How many games has Lamar lost vs the NFC? If he was in the NFC he would have been to a Superbowl.
Lamar blessed regardless Super Bowl or not
They forgot ravens defense was 32nd pass defense and Justin Tucker forgot how to the kick lmao.
😂😂😂 “they’re kicked all field goals” no, they missed all field goals
What happened last season when he had the #1 defense and won MVP even though Brock Purdy had better numbers?
@@AilmanF2Pagain you’re moving the goalpost. They brought up his losses this season in comparison to darnold to discredit him. That’s this context.
You're one of those cases of manipulating stats. Yes, the pass defense was 32nd... but the defense was 9th in points allowed. Last I checked, points determine games.
@@AilmanF2P Better numbers and a Superteam around him especially on offense and Lamar blew him out while Purdy was handing out picks like free candy. While Lamar was throwing to nothing and was basically their RB as well. Forgot that detail huh?
And the Brows, Jets, Chiefs, Panthers, and Cowboys had a higher ranked total defense than the Ravens.
When will you guys stop...
Is Josh Allen season without a superbowl a failure (Joe borrow already failed)
Is Justin Herbert season a failure
We not gonna let yall get away with the narratives
Allen and Herbert haven't won MVPS...
@@DeactivatedButUsedso you can’t have a failure of a season without an MVP?
@@dwilliams380 that’s not the conversation occurring in the video posted…?
@@DeactivatedButUsed it’s a question I’m asking you.
@@dwilliams380 Yes lol. you can fail without being mvp… but you have to agree there are different levels of failure. If 3-peat Lamar on his most historic season cannot win the Super Bowl, get to the Super Bowl- that is a colossal failure. Coach will definitely be fired.
That's how you know he's better than Josh. They never have this convo about Josh on any platform. This is a compliment.
Facts....agreed....plus, bashing of the black quarterback sells.....especially for the people who still want to keep white men playing at the quarterback position...smh
No that’s how you know Lamar is a premier talent like Josh, Lamar has had the better career so far but this season I would take Josh over Lamar every day.
@@OnlyMorale why bring race into this, the “best” known QB right now is Patrick a light skin dude and the best “dual threat” guy is Lamar. Why are you bringing up something that’s old and forgotten. If people think that let them be in their own world
@@kinge8098 why don't they ask this same question for Josh Allen?🤔...
And as far as Patrick mahomes, white America doesn't look at Patrick mahomes as a threat....plus, look at the wife Patrick mahomes chose......but guys who look like Lamar Jackson(tatted up, braids, Grills)feel like that's not the guy who should be playing the quarterback position.....is it about race....
lmaoooooo, stop it, he's nowhere near Josh Allen in no kind of way, Allen has more career wins, better career stats, better playoff numbers, lamar is 2-4 in the playoffs my guy, 9 tds and 9 turnovers, Allen is 5-5 , like 25 td's and 2 turnovers, best td to int ratio in the history of the game, you wanna talk mvp's Allen will get his in a month lj has two, Allen beat lamar in the playoffs a few years back, it's not close head to head i believe Allen is up one game, they'll never have a playoff failure convo about Allen because he always show up and show out, his team lets him down, we know what Allen is gonna do, were trying to figure out how a guy lays better in the regular season then shrinks up in the playoffs, can you tell me how?
Chase’s true feelings about Lamar creeps out from time to time….
Bc his oversized self couldn’t run in the league like he was in college
Facts, he lowkey despises him 😂
All chase said was facts bro. We have to stop being so emotional all the time.
@@dominicannick not all of it. He literally said the defense and run games have won them their playoff games. Let’s say that’s true. Until this year, Lamar was 60%+ of the Ravens run game. Himbeing the biggest rushing and passing threat was never going to win a Super Bowl.
They paying ppl to just lie & gossip on tv leave James & replace these other 3 please
Am I tripping or did Lamar clocke 4tds against Texans in playoffs last year
You are not trippin. It’s like those losses from when he was 21 and 22 years old hold all the weight. Like he wasn’t in the afc championship game last year
@@dds_que7472He choked In the AFC Championship Game
@@jakieresykes3644 No, Zay Flowers did.
@@jakieresykes3644playing against one of the best defenses we’ve seen in a long time and a top 3 qb ever
Acho looking very Joyfull today😂
It's always the QBs who had the most mediocre career in the NFL that have the most critiques. Like bro, you sucked...relax.
There’s dudes who never even touched the field that have far more critiques. Get over it that’s sports talks
Dan too.
@@big_texas4255that’s a valid point. But fans are the critics of both the players/teams and the critics. That’s our check on the system. The point of Daniels having too how of a criticism on LJ8 is a valid point as well
Did you play in the NFL?
But they never criticize the YT boys.. only the black ones
I have no issue with people expecting Lamar to win a superbowl but you can’t constantly try to ignore Lamar 2 MVP when it comes to who are the best QB after Patrick Mahommes but then use his 2 MVP against him to put expectations and call him a failure when y’all don’t do that on players yall try to put over him such as Allen and Burrow.
Well Allen and burrow doesn’t have a mvp. I feel Allen will finally win one this year so he should be held at that standard as Lamar once that happens but Lamar has the better team and individual accolades… he should get to a Super Bowl this year. There’s no excuses.
Yea Lamar has to take over the game and win it at all cost. He got to get there. And Allen, one of them got to do it@@TiandraGriffin-lu8dl
Dude they give Allen heat all the time and Josh has 81 more touchdowns than Lamar does in the last five years. I think Lamar is great. The one who should really catch heat is Burrow I’m always hearing about Burrow yet the guy missed the playoffs the last two years. Josh took a team in a “rebuild” year to the 2 seed.
@@Criminaljustice79Show me a link where it says “is Josh Allen a failure without Super Bowl” imm wait
@@TiandraGriffin-lu8dlas a Ravens fan I agree with you %100
Media: “Josh Allen & Joe Burrow are better than Lamar”
Also Media: “Lamar is a 2x MVP he needs a SB”
Fans: “If those 2 are better than Lamar then how come you don’t hold them to that same standard?”
Media: “Because they don’t have MVP’s, he does”
Fans: “Ok so with your logic, isn’t Lamar better than them?”
Media: “No.”
🤣🤣🤣 accurate 💯
TERRY BRADSHAW GOT 4 SUPERBOWLS .. TROY AIKMAN GOT 3 SUPERBOWLS .. NOBODY EVER SAID THEY WERE BETTER THAN DAN MARINO .. LAMAR JACKSON HAS PROVED THAT HE'S A GREAT QB .. WHEN MANY 'EXPERTS' SAID HE COULDN'T PLAY THE POSITION .. SUPERBOWLS ARE A TEAM STAT .. NOT AN INDIVIDUAL HONOR ..
Everybody's season is a failure without a Super Bowl ring
Whether or not Lamar wins the Super Bowl this year, he was such a Joy to watch this season
😂😂😂
The Facility is finger licking Joy to watch today.
Why is always Lamar’s season that’s called into question
As a huge Ravens and Lamar fan, I actually think it’s a compliment. The bar is higher for Lamar than those other guys, in part because of the two (or 3) MVPs, but also because he has (personally and as a team) what it takes to win Super Bowls. He definitely should have won last year - they were blowing out the best teams, until the end. And he also should this year, even though it will be more challenging.
But at the same time, anyone claiming that Allen and/or Burrow are better than Lamar doesn’t know football..
Y’all say y’all want Lamar to go to the Super Bowl” idc if he wins just make sure he get there”. But in the same token y’all gonna say you got there but didn’t win the big game.
Exactly!
I knew Acho had that dawg in him
We need more dawgs in 2025
More like that dog in her
He had that dog in her
@ 7:32 josh has a much better playoff record? 2-4 vs 5-5? Both has never beaten mahomes. what are we smoking today?
chase already making excuses. steelers lost the last 4 going into the playoffs. bro hates on lamar so much
they compare burrow and allen to lamar but both have FAR LOWER expectations...makes the game hard to inJoy ...right Acho?
Acho lives by "game is game"
Lamar jackson had 508 yards in playoff game never brought up😂😂😂never show Lamar average 300 yards in playoffs 😂😂😂
Exactly. Lamar still has the record for the most total yards in a playoff game but they love focusing on him losing
They should be a way that Lamar Jackson gets paid by these people. So many people are earning a living talking about him. It’s so insane. These guys did not talk about the playoff matchups or coaches. Nothing just Lamar.
This is a sports talk show about football. Geebus people like you are brain dead.
Facts, Lamar is talked about every day on every show. He's literally carrying their views. They're talking like this is lamars last season in the nfl.
Man y’all say this every year
Josh Allen, Hebert and Burrow NEVER EVER GET SEGMENTS LIKE THIS!
They literally just has one about Burrow missing the playoffs again. Just stop lying already.
@byronsmith3152 dude stop it. Its usually sympathy and excuses for burrows. Lamar takes his team to the playoffs every year hes healthy. Burrows has missed the playoffs twice
@@melaninknowledge3658 What I said was a fact.
What does Joy think, Acho?...
ACHO SMASHING JOY TAYLOR😂😂😂😂😂
Chase Daniel is rooting against Lamar. It’s evident.
Correct. Dude has been a backup QB for his entire career and hating on a 2x MVP player 😂
Lamar may be 2-4 in the playoffs, but he's had 2 first round byes and he lead a 4-5 Ravens team his rookie season to the playoffs by going 6-1 as a starter.
WHY DO WE STILL SEE YOUR FACE ACHOOOOOOOOO!!!!🤣
Thank you Shady! I gotta much love for you on this show man
If Burrow better than Lamar he didnt go to playoffs 😂😂😂😂no criticism 😂😂
He even got a new show he knew he had to shake joy lol
was Chase daniels and Ancho great in the post season?
I didn’t even know they played FB🤣🤣🤣
@TrueLeader-p8t lmao they were back ups
9:55 I don’t agree with this at all by that logic it’s Goff also better then Lamar because he been to a Super Bowl?
You can hear the joy in their voice discussing Lamar
I remember when they said Lamar didn't deserve to get paid his money... stop it
Nothing will ever be enough. Goal posts move constantly.
Bro yall forget it took Payton 9 years until he won his first ring yall gotta chill
Something’s in the water man. I swear people’s memories don’t go past last year.
As a Ravens fan I'm thankful to have Lamar. Win or lose it's a good feeling knowing you have a guy you LOVE to root for. I cant imagine wanting anyone else. Go back to 2019 when Bills and Ravens fans were best friends bc we both felt like we drafted our guy. Fast forward to 2024 we both don't have a ring BUT any real fan wouldn't trade their player for the hardware anyways. Its not easy to get a ring so you might as well have fun, look cool, and love the people you do it with. Everyone's who not a fan of these two or their teams will NEVER stop berating them but it does not affect our love for them. Quote me!
Man that Texans playoff game last year just didn’t happen I guess😂
Nope not at all 😂
Lamar has *NEVER* played well in the playoffs. That Texas game must have been the running game and defense 😂😂😂 like Lamar hasn’t been 65% of the running game until this year
Acho moving like he got his socks on. He a lil "tense" in presentation lol
by far the dumbest graphic ive ever seen that chase put up lol
Hes a former back-up QB, what you expect bro? 😂
Charlie Dixon has Acho working overtime with the Lamar shade
ANY QB's season without a super bowl is a failure, wtf is this talking point.
Not true at all it’s different expectations for different caliber of QB’s.For instance if Jayden Daniels doesn’t win it’s not a failure because no one expected him to whereas for someone like Mahomes , Lamar and Josh are expected to be there and win.
@@daquaylenavie3740 So why don't they mention Josh Allen as well then?🤔why they gotta mention Lamar first? They've been crying that Josh Allen is the best player all season....why don't they speak about they're "best player" first?😒 Why it gotta be Lamar first?😒
@@OnlyMorale Lamar has only ever had 1 good playoff game thats why & hes got induvidual accolades Josh Doesnt. Josh has been better in the playoffs
@@OnlyMorale fair I always find it weird they don’t bring up Josh he’s made one AFCCG and since then he’s gotten bounced in the divisional round every year. If Josh wins MVP this year ( which is likely ) then they both should be held to the same standards moving forward because regardless if Josh performs well in the postseason he doesn’t have a ring either.
@@OnlyMorale Crazy how this needs to be explained... Lamar has the better team.
i hate when they say things like "oh well josh gave us that performance against Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs that one time"... bro WHO CARES?! you can't hang a performance up on a banner in your stadium so who gives a damn?.. my main issue with this whole thing is the media has SUCCESSFULLY created a double edge sword of narratives to use against lamar.. they say the QB with the most pressure to succeed in the playoffs is Lamar every single time because he's held to a higher standard due to his MVP's.. but yet year in and year out when they do QB rankings coming into the new season the list is ALWAYS 1. Pat 2. Joe 3. Josh 4. Lamar or it's Josh at 2 and Joe at 3.. but it's NEVER lamar at 2.. so how in the world is the QB you rank as 4th best under the most pressure and scrutiny but the guys at 2 & 3 that yall rank above him get a pass?.. if the reason is "because he has MVP's" then let that ALSO be the reason yall rank him AHEAD of Joe & Josh.
Acho should be singing “Joy to the world”
The internet is weird your guilty even if it’s just a rumor
Lamar is only going to be 28 he still going to win every year no matter what so he will have a chance. Mahome every year get these good recievers but yall want to say he Don't have anything. The bills have a good team or they wouldn't be second seed. Superbowl is a team success, Lamar are going have to play the best he can.
So the Bengals not making the playoffs is a failure but Lamar has 2 MVPs but not a failure if he doesn't make the super bowl?
Damn is Lamar the only QB without a ring ?
yes clearly
@ who else has a ring ?
James Jones is a very good analyst, and he keeps it 💯
But the thing is , if the ravens win the superbowl yall will give the credit to Henry on the defense , will still move the goal.
They NEVER talk about Lamar's most recent playoff run, SMOKING the Texans 34-10, then losing to the chiefs because they ran the ball a record low amount of times and Zay's fumble in the endzone. But they will still talk about Joe Burrows ONE Super Bowl appearance 3 years ago.
Lamar choked In the AFC Championship Game
@@jakieresykes3644 I can tell u didnt watch the game
@@EnvydsI did he choked couldn’t score more then 10 points when his defense held the Chiefs scoreless the entire second half
@@jakieresykes3644 hard to score when your WR fumbles in the end zone/getting penalized for taunting, your RBs have a franchise low of 6 carries and 23 yards. and your coaches are calling pass plays on 3th&1, then going for it on 4th&1 and calling a pass play again. also 8 penalties for 100 yards. Cant blame Lamar
If Justin Tucker doesn’t miss 10 fgs the ravens they might be 15-2
And the passing defense earlier in the season
Respect for checking Acho and Chase. Keep that same energy.
So if Josh wins mvp n lose to pat
Is his season a failure
Winning a championship is an accomplishment, never a failure. Even when Mahomes and Brady won, it was an accomplishment. When they didn't, it wasn't a failure.
It’s always a failure if Lamar don’t make it but it’s never a failure if Josh Allen joe burrow Trevor Lawrence Justin Herbert and the other young new white QBs never make it lmao
These “white” qbs don’t have mvps lol. Why is it so offensive to yall when expectations are put on a great player? I’m not a ravens fan but I wouldn’t be mad if the media was on my qb neck like this because I’m assuming dude must be that good lol
What are you talking about. The last 2 seasons clearly were failures for Burrow and Lawrence. And Lawrence is so far below Lamar at this point that he shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence. Obviously a mediocre season for Lamar is a great season for Lawrence lol. Most would also view Allen's last season as a failure because they didn't get past the Chiefs and reach the SB.
@@TiandraGriffin-lu8dlbut people pedostalize them and talk about how great they are all the time
So you’ve never heard of Peyton Manning right?
Use common sense shows structure racism let me explain Joe Burrow didn't go playoffs Chase Daniels just said he #2 Qb😂Media dont want destroy image,Trevor Lawrence 2nd yr had #1 pick 3 out 4 yrs no playoffs media dont destroy image Justin Herbert have 0 playoff wins 😂Remember Lamar won mvp media pushing agenda everyday he can't win playoffs these people are Evil let's be real,Josh Allen haven't went to Super bowl trying give him Mvp didn't he didn't earn because voter fatigue Lamar jackson media try destroy image how great he is look Lamar keep push goal post Remember he 5 Qb in draft exceeded all there Careers not even close,Caucasian qb don't win dont push it to destroy image instead use formula attack Black Qb look at Dak when didn't make playoffs media saying them get another Qb,Caleb williams rookie criticism on him everyday never criticize Trevor Lawrence who loosing 65% games Understand people run shows Espn an Fs1 are racist it's just structure Joe Burrow not in playoffs using stats an blame defense Burrow threw ball almost 700 times looses on him pass at high rate defense stay on field more
Lamar Vs Houston in the 2023 Divisional round…HE WENT CRAZY💯it’s sad how they forget
How about the AFC Championship Game
You can tell these mfs hate lamar just by the titles when discussing him lol lamar season is a disappointment without a super bowl not a failure
Why the media keeps coming up with this bs narrative.they dnt talk about any other qb the way the talk bout lamar
No more excuses for Lamar.
No more excuses for josh
No more for both Josh and Lamar
that part. One of them or both my have to wait until next season. If they don't make it. Then same convo again
No one ever brings up the point that Lamar's first playoff game, a loss, was the 6th game of his career.
Just sayin
Seeing Acho use his hands in a new light thanks to the joy he’s received
lamar and joy taylor both operated in a "spread" system
Is this the same show that made non stop excuses for Joe Burrow missing the playoffs 🤔 but will turn around and say LJ season is a failure if he doesn't make a Superbowl! If Josh Allen wins MVP this year and doesn't win a superbowl is his season a failure? Bet we never get that segment smh
If Flowers don’t fumble the Ravens win last year 🤨 I hate these conversations
Like always media aims straight to Lamar like he's the only QB without a super bowl 😭🤣🤣
Lamar didn’t choose to win 2 MVPs they were given to him cause they voted for him and then use that against him when he loses to Patrick Mahomes in the playoffs, so saying you have to hold him to a higher standard for an award that, while im sure he is happy he won, he didn’t choose to win nor was it really even his goal to win is not fair for him imo
Chase doing everything in his power to keep the YT QB alive in discussions....
But last year y'all said the Ravens do not have a good receiving cord but flowers Y'all did not like 7 Batman Y'all said King Henry was washed up now they doing good now y'all saying they got more people than Buffalo you can't make this up
What's really trash bout this... is that his career isn't over and ocho be asking the most disrespectful questions
Acho I’m loving the JOY in your voice
Agree, no you shouldn't ask the 22 year old kid that doesn't know anything what he wants. That's the job for the organization, to put the teams and players with the best people. At 22 he has no clue what he needs to get better and the team to succeed.
Chase Is wrong Lamar Jackson's legacy is not his playoff failures, it's him surpassing all the doubts and expectations of him and being a two time mvp.
Only 4 QBs in the league right now have won a Superbowl. Flacco, Mahomes, Wilson, Stafford.