2024 Elections | 'If Zuma's MK impact is in KZN, it reflects Zulu tribalism': Gwede Mantashe
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- National Chairperson of the African National Congress Gwede Mantashe.
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This guy is drunk😂
He is shem😂😂😂😂
😂😂
Better be drunker than be a rapist😅😅
That is what the nations who were celebrating the death of the Messiah said, they are drunk when they were telling them the truth in their own tounges
Just old ..
The time Zuma was in ANC Mr Gwede never said anything about tribalism
@DumaM-ir7rk Did it touch the nerve about tribalism, Mantashe is on point if you ask many MK voters why they voted for MK they will tell you that because they are Zulu's, and also they were in the ANC because of Zuma, Mina bafo I like the ANC policies they work for the black community even if some of these policies are not implemented correctly. If the people in charge in the government offices were implementing what ANC wants with no corruption, we will be the best country in Africa.
@@masekoromeo7919so if it's tribalism why are you so itching what's wrong about tribalism
Tsek… another tribalism is white voting for DA, buuure voting FF-plus..shurup gwede
Nope dude ypu have tjat wrong we vote for thing's to work@DumaM-ir7rk
Exactly. It enjoyed KZN votes through Zuma. Now that Zuma took the votes, he cries tribalism.
I am a Tsonga speaking person but i voted for MK from Giyani
They will call you names,dont come back crying
Call him names? Like which names? Ay Mina I give up ngani ANC
@@Thatsong-fr9nq-the Zulu nation love and respect who they are , that is why they love and respect other nations....let all the Kings of all the SA nations unite....as the true leaders of this country....
You are terrible liar
Huraaa giyane❤
Bring breathalyzer to check the level of alcohol to Mkhulu😅
I voted MK and I am not Zulu 😂
Yes! You are just stupid
STOP LYING🤣
Lies
Ngizwe Mncunu will deal with u and Penny Penny decisively 😂
His point is to do with the fact that MK
Seem to be big in KZN for now,, so if that trend remain anc is not worried because it will disappear like IFP😅😅😅
All these years we voted ANC because we believed in it but all of a sudden because now kzn is voting differently we are called a tribal nation. Ay kulungile😔😢
We have always others are just in denial
KZN vote for ANC increased during the time of Zuma and decreased when he left. You can't rewrite facts.
uyahlanya lobaba kade besixhaphaza
So KZN people hate ANC but they don't Zuma, Zuma is from the ANC actually he is still claiming to be the member of the ANC, so what is that if it is not tribalism?
Shame this madala is hurting
Lol zuma is a one man organization. Hate or love him you can't deny his influence
And that is giving Gwende hear break 😂😂😂 I wonder why is mbalula 😂😂
Buthelezi also did the same '94 to poor KZN masses but he end up chasing ANC 😂🫣
His influence is I KZN and it's purely on tribal lines period!!
@DumaM-ir7rkyou say so because his not apologetic to tribal nonsense
@@rosaliamavulu'
Why didn't you write your comment in your own language motho wa modimo.
That's Gwede not Gwende 😂😂😂
We as a Zulus we don't care about what Gwede Mantashe has saying
You guys don't care about anything lol. Remember when you burnt down your own cities, now you complain about unemployment?
Correct.... All parties use an influential Political figurehead who resonates with his supporters and unfortunately Zuma is what I would say (only influence terms) a Nelson Mandela to Xhosa people as he is part of the first Group of Black presidents....Problem is who will the nguni people elect after his generation and this is where both Zulu and Xhosa have been failing interms of political succession plans post 2030.And oneday so called rural voters/economy will oneday get the same level of economic opportunities instead of being a trickled down resources from urban outskirts
And the rest of the country don’t care what you think either. Watch KZN become the most bankrupt and looted province in SA.
Zyakhala wemkhulu Mantashe hamba uyohlala nabazukulu Mantashe 😂😂😂
he is actually younger than Zuma
@@sabelodlamini5590But he(Mantashe)is useless,that is the difference
From when he has become useless? After he dumped Zuma and supported Ramaphosa neh
Ngihappy if ngibona imk ikhalisa amadoda kanjena hlangana zulu kulate
I voted MK and i am not Zulu,pls Gwede accept that you have failed us and that you have tough competition.
❤❤❤ it is hard to accept
No mk is not tough part for ANC, it's just one province, the zulu one
Maybe tribalism is not a factor when it comes to the Eastern Cape and Limpopo where Mr Ramaphosa comes from, according to Mr Mantashe; & he is just happy with the election results from those two provinces. Maybe he didn't even come down to the level of his fellow Xhosas whom in their majority are in the Eastern Cape and communicate in a language that they best understand; their preferred South African official language of course
@@awethuzanga1631 yahlanya wena
@@MaryMemela-e8dusisi dom esimuncu kalok wena, for your ignorance
When Zulus voted for ANC in 2009 it was not Zulu tribalism?
No when Zulus bored from Mk and IFP are tribalistic
@@enmn6001
SisiNgisi sani ngoba sigcina sesingezwanga nokuthi umuntu wakhona ubezama ukuthini nkosiyam 🙀🤣🤣🤣
It was, proof is that they never won KZN before they appointed a Zulu as president
Exactly Zama, they benefitted from that because the people in KZN always voted around ethnic lines since 1994
That's why Zulus voted for Mandela and Mbeki? @@Asanda82
Is he under the influence of alcohol or he didn't sleep
Yyadakwa lona
To me he looks like someone who has not had enough sleep or rest.
Always drunk this man
😂😂😂
@@gugumbonambi9470kk(kkkkkkkkkkk
Do you remember the day when Pres Zuma was taken to jail? Do you remember Adv Busisiwe Mkhwebane ? Let me lastly remind you of the one and Only Judge Hlophe when the he was voted out by the Democratic government. Remember...... 😢
Do GWEDE uya tash tash.Loadshedding,Collapsing of SOE'S,Land issues,The are ripping our mineral resources that's is allowed by the ANC and CODESA political agreements must be review ASAP
Then what about DA in the Western Cape is it as well a tribalism
And based on what you know about WC, who vote for them there, blacks or whites? Who dominates there?
Thank u for that question,I wanted to ask the same question,this old man is drunk
Coloured people are the majority in WC and NC but felt neglected by the ANC a long time ago
Western cape is full of enlightened people. KZN is still dull just like all the rural provinces
RACISM... whites vote for their own.....coloreds do not want blacks hence they vote with whytes...its a fact
UNITY IS POWER MY FRIEND
Precisely
Correct.... All parties use an influential Political figurehead who resonates with his supporters and unfortunately Zuma is what I would say (only influence terms) a Nelson Mandela to Xhosa people as he is part of the first Group of Black presidents....Problem is who will the nguni people elect after his generation and this is where both Zulu and Xhosa have been failing interms of political succession plans post 2030.And oneday so called rural voters/economy will oneday get the same level of economic opportunities instead of being a trickled down resources from urban outskirts
I'm voted mk but I'm not Zulu this guy is crazy
I wish MK can make at least huge numbers so that Mantashe and his friends will swallow their words
Tribalism in reality played a big role in KZN and people must be worried 😫😫😫
I'm not Zulu and I voted for MK.
o motswana....of cos...tswana folk are the most directionless people i know....le tsewa ke phefo...
@@sebolai-dd4wo There you go...you are making a tribalist comment.at tlhogi. Why are saying this about the Tswanas..you are a tribalist a big time.
You voted for the Guptas
@@samueldudley5590and you voted for Phalaphala farm
@@sebolai-dd4wo Mmago o "directionless".
Zuma is FreedomFighter he was anc before 1994
🤦IFP came with the same speed of paraffin in '94 they were tribalism surpassed ANC but after people realise they were use started to run back like headless chickens, it's not surprising with zupta too they will run away 😂👻
@and Zuma helping ANC to win KZN it wasn't tribalism 😂,ikhuzeni lenkukhu esuthi suthi.molefiramatheko4795
We are aware of KZN tribalism is too much there they always fight against each other is during time of Independent State.
Its true what Minister Mantashe is saying tribalism do change.
Mantashe is tribalistic to the core.
When Xhosa people voted Mbeki's Cope they were not tribalistic, when Pedi people voted Malena's EFF they were not tribalistic, but as soon some Zulu's vote for the MK they are tribalistic?
Mantashe is irresponsible and driven by tribalism.
Zulu people just punished the ANC and especially useless leaders like Mantashe well-done KZN.
@@molefiramatheko4795 mxm bibo IFP was found by white apartheid trying to course civil war the only relevant in 1992 when buried them
No chairperson. That is out of order. If we lost votes in KZN, let's figure out how to get them back instead of playing Tribal politics.
Mandela nd Mbeki never got votes from KZN so whats yo point or u ar just in denial😮
@@WinkieMabija You are basing this based on what? The Premiership of KZN was held by the ANC since 1994.
I am against the decision our brothers and sisters in KZN have made. But that is how they feel. And if we are a movement of the people, we try to convince them that they made a mistake.
We don't invoke tribalism. That gets us nowhere.
@@khanyancoyini1053 Aa bro ANC won KZN when Zuma was running 4 presidents so even now we ar going 2 loose KZN nd other fact is Zulus ar proudly tribalist nd they needed 2be told abt that lts very backwards that's why they ar called omangubane in some areas🤞
@@WinkieMabijawhy don't you focus on wht went wrong under anc tht makes poeple to become tribalism..they also show tribalism the way they treated Zuma even before he was a president.even so we did vote for Mandela.mbeki Ramaposa
If you look at top six..there's no Zulu person bt we never complain as u say we a tribalism n Zuma when he went to exile,serve 10yrs.he never said he's fighting for Zulus..he said he was fighting for the country..tht tribalism thing is your thinking tht won't takes us anywhere
People at his level still don’t understand the concept of democracy
The man had some few glasses of whiskey before coming to the results centre 😂😂😂
Black Label Beer😂
Tht tribalism thing it shows they've never like Zuma..we know tht..even before as a president..they were calling him names..n now tht is following KZN...i know we a strong ..
Why always an issue about KZN why the other Provinces are doing the same and no one is saying anything. So tribalism is only when its KZN?
nah, you guys are tribalists...
@@sebolai-dd4wo JZ formed a party, he did not say it must be joined by the Zulus. Why other ethnic people are not joining it. Are they not allowed?
@@lwazimjiyako4390 every province should form their own tribal parties...its a tribal thing, whether you like to admit it or not
Uqinisile lapho lama xhosa aphethwe ukusa
@@QinisoMncwango-qi2pq
If kuyaphatha ukusa kwaqala ngani niseyiNKatha kaZulu niwabulala amaXhosa nihlangene namabhulu.
Sorry cde mantashe I know it's hurting, we all know why Zuma break away from the ANC. Fix yourself, your house,
But Zuma remained part of them
Thank you Msholozi!
So much arrogance coming from him. South Africans are tired and ANC is not going to win in KZN and all other metros. Lets watch and see!!!!!!!!!
I told the comrades, that we(MK) are going to break the ANC, what are they saying now? Still disrespecting a whole tribe, kulungile, the punishment will continue till they learn ukuthi "Baba"
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Make the anc to kneel down before its voters....the anc need to fear us
Hlanganani ma'Zulu 😂😂😂 Ziyakhala...
The ANC has really disappointed the south Africa
ANC is very confused.
Mantashe utterances says Kwazulu Natal is an independent state and he is xenophobic
He's a tribalist
This is the very reason these guys should be removed, and to be honest they personalised matters with Zuma so much that the whole MK vote is a retaliation
Yes he is tribalist
Kodwa mkhulu mantasge please awukakabi imholi uma usakhuluma ngaloluhlobo😂😢
I find Mantashe utterance as long over hatred not for Zuma but all Zulu people
They should have never taken Zuma to prison for a useless case...why he thinks zulu people don't think for themselves
There lies the problem! Zuma was not arrested because he was zulu, so why is it zulus who thinks that he should've not gone to jail?
@@ShavhiMunyamelawat was he arrested for if you may tell me Matatshe he mustn't play dirty we are not all stupid.white people they kept on voting DA he never brought such allegations
Was Zuma arrested because he's a Zulu?🤔
The consequences of taking Msholozi to prison is giving the ANC a hard time.
If u blv ths nonsense u just wrote here l blv u have yo brain on your back side really🤞
Zulus will confuse you broe🤣🤣🤣🤣
Chest pains
there are non Zulu's who voted for MK Party , is it also a sign of TRIBALISM according to Gwede Mantashe ? counting is NOT yet over and he is already sounding like a sore loser
I think he is drunk
Tribalism is dangerous like apartheid
most of them have chest pains they can't hide it
akafuseke ke le
I said take mantashe to emagezeni bhofolo kokwabo otyiswa ihhokhwe athandazele.mybe her wife empted tender toilet on the home.
I wonder how all the Zulus who voted for ANC feels about this disturbing zulu nationalist from Mantashe
Bro,you can say that again
😡
He s trying to own anc indirectly to say zulus back to yr zulu, u dont nelong to anc..mantashe is currently a shame to the country
I did voted for MK where is tribalism ?
When is Gwede and his old age comrades going on pension.. they're all useless. Sesibongile amasela!
He will continued MK Viva .ushushu butywala xhego ndini.unxilile ngoku
I am a white Zulu from Transkei but I voted for MK.
They benefited from zuma in kzn for years
Gwede must stop labelling KZN as tribalism , when mk as political party winning at KZN but if ANC winning in CE is not tribalism what nonsense does he talking about, it is clear that mantashe don't like Zulu people why he describe mk or Zuma as tribalism .. it is a insult in this democracy actually he is perpetrating tribalism . Gwede must apologize to the KZN people and people of South Africa.
2005 the whole KZN rallied behind Zuma with the banners saying 100%zulu boy
Ofcourse it is tribalism. Remember the riots in 2021 in KZN when Zuma was removed as President and jailed ??
The MK is nothing more than the former Zuma faction of the ANC that’s why the KZN have transferred their votes from the ANC to the MK.
Nonsense what is Gwede is saying. Who said Zuma wanted to own the ANC??
People have spoken baba. They were not forced. Just as those who voted for you were not forced. Stop being silly😊
If its tribalism why were the votes not going toIFP pr Mkhize?
ifp got some votes...
The ANC needs new blood with fresh ideas. People like Mantashe must GO!
Where is Fikile Bhalula
fikile who?
Still day dreaming
Calling ubaba for a position 😂😂
I also miss her shem. Where is she?
@@Ncebakazi-w3m Kant is he a she??😂😂
They were busy with Hamas and hating Zuma and Israel
Then wmc called Israel started to fund Zuma and it's agency(mossad) is carrying out espionage against Ramaphoria and Zuma is directing those covert operations
Wow! the comments from this old man are very shameful especially coming from a black person ,it brings division I'm disappointed on this man , the ANC should accept that they lost t kzn to MK. I'm not Zulu but I applaud the Zulu nation for taking control of their province.
I like your comments I'm zulu but I didn't voted for mk ,mk it for everyone like eff,malema is pedi guy but here in kzn they love him
When you says Zulus for taking control of thier province..Whats the meaning of that?
@@luckymaselesele9109 I mean for choosing a leader they want to lead them in their province.
@@BhekisisaJingela You correct.
@@BhekisisaJingelatrue. I'm Zulu but I like Malema's ideas... When he speaks I don't even remember what ethnicity he is... I just know he's African and South African and that's enough...
Iam from KZN, its true tribal politics dominates here over logic and reason, pre 1994 and after 94 KZN was led by IFP( a Zulu tribalism party). People who are not familiar with KZN politics think, that tribal politics mentality died with IFP, it didnt Zuma knows about that mentality and he uses it. Even during his first presidential campaign Tribilism slogans and mentality was there. Unfortunately the ANC dint see problem with that at the time cause it was beneficial to them. Now it comes back to haunt them😂
Meaning all ANC leaders in in kzn also tribalism 💚🖤💚🖤💚✊
Unfortunately this is the calibre of leaders we have,leaders who just talk carelessly and who never think of the consequences of their utterances in the public.Gwede is comfortably calling Zulu people tribalists...really what is that coming from a seasoned leader like him?
Chest pains + anger = Mantashe🤣🤣🤣🤣
The founding president of ANC JL Dube was zulu asingakhohlwa ilokho and ANC sayinika ithuba kodwa yadlala ngalo, neMK mayenza the same sizoyivota out
Bring alcohol tester to see if mantashe not drunk.he smell drunk on his comment
Best comment😂😂
I’m Tsonga from Mpumalanga I voted MK
When we were voting for the ANC you never called us tribalists now that we are changing the game we have turned to tribalists....double standards is mindblowing
He is drunk
I agree I think Zulu people voted Zuma in tribal lines because MK not leading in other provinces, but it's only KZN we lost so it's clear Zuma decampaign against ANC was also influenced by tribal lines
It's because ANC spoiled yr ballot papers and other provinces. DIDN'T U HEAR THAT?
Why manthashe does not primind mnangwagwa about shona tribalism
In the intricate tapestry of South Africa's diverse cultural landscape, a lamentable shadow looms over the interactions between the Xhosa and Zulu peoples. The echoes of tribalism reverberate through the corridors of prejudice, as some Xhosa individuals, ensconced in their perceived superiority, cast disdainful glances upon their Zulu counterparts and other tribes. Their ears, deafened by the echoes of tradition and the lingering presence of figures like Gwede Mantashe within the ANC, remain closed to the harmonious symphony of unity and understanding.
In their haughty reverie, they unwittingly shackle themselves to a narrow-minded worldview, one that fails to recognize the brilliance and potential of their own Xhosa leaders. Their arrogance, a veil woven from the threads of ignorance, obscures the path to enlightenment and progress. The misguided belief in the inherent superiority bestowed by circumcision blinds them to the myriad possibilities that lie beyond the confines of their limited perspective.
Thus, trapped in the suffocating embrace of their own conceit, they languish in a state of intellectual dormancy, unable to transcend the darkness of ignorance that envelops them. It is only through a collective awakening, a shedding of the shackles of tribalism and elitism, that true enlightenment and progress can be achieved for all.
Indian person here who voted MK. It's not tribalism. Its wanting change ❤
I'm a Zulu but I am not a tribalist and my political party MK is for everyone, so stop lying Mr Gwede Mantashe.🎉😢😂
I'm a Xhosa voted MK Viva ZUMA
Absolutely correct. Plus the MK is essentially the former Zuma faction of the ANC. So they may have voted for the ANC previously but now they are voting on factional and tribal lines.
This old man is rude 💔
Leave the Zulu nation alone. The Zulu people have shown unity and a sound mind of the situation. I am Swati and I love their spirit.
The stress is catching up with him and deciding to drink himself drunk . I pray for a miracle for the ANC to lose this big metros because, yhoo, we will never hear the end. Fikile Mbalula will hurt my ears bragging until the next elections we wont hear the end of him and ANC
To the people who are saying MK is not tribalism. Who are you fooling?
What makes it a tribalist party? Are you saying people who are not Zulus are not allowed to join the party?
@@lwazimjiyako4390 Bro please. Come on. It's a joke to even try to deny this with a question that fishes for a debate. It's a joke. It's obvious even to a first grader.
Such a weak statement. But the time KZN voted ANC, they were not tribalists.
The hate for amaZulu and Zuma is South Africa is getting out of hand. Hiw about VF, the Coloured party and ither enthnic politcan parties? I feel sorry dorbthose
People have spoken Ntashi
This Gwede Mantashe opinion on election results as Zulu tribalism in KZN is purely nonsense, It's just the last kick of a dying horse, he knows very well the truth that led to this, Are his hypocratic actions by Mbalula Ramaphosa and him, example when they were dissolving the veterans organisation they should have bare it in mind that those people were not only military veterans only but political influenced too,
he looked angry😢
And I voted MK this time from ANC
This is a man scared 😱
Mk is tribalistic party that's a fact is not different from IFP.. We are not surprised
What about western cape?
I guess we have "racism" in WC according mkhulu uGwede.What do we have then in the EC? 😅
Wazewancenga da.
Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana 🇧🇼 Botswana we support president Jacob zuma mk party 2024
Zimbongolo mkhanqala ye ANC IZImbongolo
True democracy happening in KZN
The ANC members in KZN must realise that they are being used.Here is their leader talking about Zulu tribalism because anc has lost KZN.
ANC was also formed by the Zulus. Luthuli , Dube , Xuma.,
r u sure?
@@mandlaveyi3411Go read books....
@@senzomemela1311 no I was just asking Senzo mntakwethu
It doesn't take away from the fact that Zulus are tribalists who hate anything that is not Zulu.
@@mandlaveyi3411lol so sad 😂😂😂 you don't even know that the founder of the ANC is a Zulu man, the first president of the ANC John Langalibalele Dube. The ANC began in Natal Baba😂😂😂. YOU will learn that Zulu's are not followers, they are leaders and you can't remove that from their DNA😂😂😂😂
There's too much tribalism within the ANC since Ramaphosa took over. Limpopo will tell you this is not a Zulu party. We were treated like bad.
what about anc losing Western Cape tribalism?
Mbeki was sent to play chess in KZN,he failed as Mabhida hunted him😂😂😂
Sick of mantashing arrogance 😂when us afriforum taking him to trial 😂
Mantashe is true to form MK was tribalism of sayings we can't be lead by someone who doesn't speak Zulu (isilwane) according to their term .
Mr Zuma is not tribalism no no no no no and zulu are not tribalits
If Anc win in KZN they call its democracy but if they loose they say its tribalism
Hellen Zille, Steenhuizen and the Western Cape = TRIBALISM😅. Hhaybo😅😅
racism...whites only vote fro their own...just like orania doesnt allow any blacks to reside there...
He saying the truth
i) When Mandela won KZN, no one mentioned the word "tribalism".
ii) When Mbeki won KZN over IFP, no one talked about "tribalism".
iii) When Ramaphosa won KZN over IFP, no one talked about "tribalism".
iv) today the ANC is defeated by the Mk then then the ANC is introducing the word "tribalism" to excuse their poor leadership and their lack of technical understanding of the complex issues.
They are lazy to comprehend complex and diverse political spectrum. They easily jump and use tribal card.
It is very confusing because the very ANC is using racist argument to pigeon hole black people that they must vote the ANC if they are not they are not racist but tribalism
Mandela and Mbheki Never won KZN PAPA
Mandela never won KZN bro
Can we really call it defeat,your measurement being the KZN province ONLY?
Think again and think deeper.
Unamanga zange utata wethu sonke awine kwawina ubuthelezi I ANC ifumene ikzn ngexesha uZuma eba yi President amanani enyuka
Ngizwe's words was proven right Zulu people are tribalists
Thank you people of SA this organization is belong to all of us don't worry about This old Man he crazy 😂😂😂😂
Gwende must first treat this out of control belly..How do you expect us to entrust him with power when he can't manage his own health?
Frustrated G is a concern man
Thanks to the arrival of the MK Party in the South African politics, for we are now going to talk about the taboo topic TRIBALISM. Gwede Mantashe says, 'if there is an impact in the KZN, it is Zulu tribalism.' Gwede Mantashe is the seasoned politician of the ANC, with an impeccable struggle credentials and having hit the highest possible ranks and offices within his organization. The man knows what he is talking about or should be taken seriously when he uttered such words. Remember it was Mantashe who reprimanded his Secretary General, Fikile Mabalula when he, without thinking about repercussions, told the truth that the ANC having defended Jacob Zuma when he actually had committed serious mistakes during his 'nine wasted years' as the President of the country.
Gwede Mantashe is correct in attempting to analyze the KZN voting pattern. Lets face it, any Venda speaking person, Ramaphosa or not, cannot have the same support Jacob Zuma is having in kZN, inversely Jacob Zuma will never have the 2/3 majority in Venda.
No way!
Just take Jacob Zuma out of KZN, for argument's sake, put him in the Northern Cape, you will come to grips that he is an nonentity, outside the realm of tribalism.
The only problem with the statement of Gwede Mantashe is that his own ANC is to be blamed for the mushrooming of tribalism. No tribalism, no ANC majority rule. As long as tribalism suited the ANC, the organization did not only benefit from it but allowed it to grow and flourish.Denial-ism of tribalism is tantamount to complicity in a crime.
In fact tribalism is worse today than it was under the Apartheid rule.
The paradox is, beneficiaries of tribalism claim that tribalism is dead and buried, They would pretend, mislead and manipulate the people that tribalism is dead, worse of, they would claim it never existed in South Africa. Thanks to the existence of the MK, we are now able to talk about tribalism; long overdue!
This is not about zulu it's Sarvice delivery
Zuma was the president under ANC but he did bagroll for KZN
I'm tswana and voted for mk, what is this Zulu nationalism?
If Ramaphoria was a Zulu man, KZN was gonna give ANC a premiership
Gwede & Fikile were part of the group that decided to keep KZN members out of the top 6 officialls of the ANC so they must take responsibility for their actions.