Calidrius: That was my first thought when the video started... why is Dr Zimbardo in a car dealer's lot??... the very people who have perfected the craft of ignoring C.D. I suspect it was a subliminal message ;-D
I didn't quite understand until the $20 guy said it sucked & the $1 gal said she'd do it again. *aha!* Very interesting. Also, I was curious about inflation (for the sake of perspective) so I looked it up. In 1957, $1 = appx $9 & $20 = appx $170.
“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.” - Frantz Fanon, Black Skin, White Masks
That is NOT cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance only refers to conflicting beliefs about oneself. Evidence to the contrary about things outside oneself is another social psychology theory- either belief perseverance (refusing to change beliefs even when disconfirming evidence exists) and or confirmation bias ( tending to look for and interpret and remember information according to one's own beliefs) This is a common misconception about what cognitive dissonance is.
"People come to believe in and love the things they have to suffer for" - I'm going to frame this sentence and recite it daily, for the remainder of my life. Simply goes to prove how MUCH power one single sentence has.
SlypherSpoons Good one! Congnative dissonance is central in racism it occurs when your behavior is in contridict to what you hold to be true. Consider, how do you reconcile the European or so called civilizers behaving in such a barbaric way toward the many brown and black people globally for example? This is actually at its very core a huge component of racism, humans don't function well under these circumstances and dissonance must be removed. Thus you have things like the 3/5 compromise reducing blacks to 3/5ths of a human, or sanctioning the rape of enslaved individual because quote "their sex is promiscuous and in turn they are unable to be raped." Or in contemporary society convincing yourself blacks behave differently from other races, are more violent and are less desirable to be around. both are attempting to remove the dissonance by creating a reality where the behavior is justified. of course I am black so I'm entering this conversation on a different level then you I assume.
The transfer of information between neurons becomes optimal when their activity is synchronized. This is the same reason why we experience cognitive dissonance, the frustration caused by simultaneously holding two contradictory ideas. Will is merely the drive to reduce dissonance between each of our active neural circuits.
Fascinating. I doubted your comment at first, but it looks like there is actually science that backs that up. "There is evidence suggesting that the more the anterior cingulate cortex signals conflict, the more dissonance a person experiences" -Wikipedia page on Cognitive Dissonance.
I think it's part of adaptive human behavior. CD is an observation, or finding in that humans can adapt to survive in almost any situation. Even if its against their long term survival..people can change their belief as much and as long as they can presume they will have to endure the dissonance, But changing the behavior is what is required to alleviate the dissonance, which usually requires more effort from the individual, and usually why they change their belief instead.
Also reminds me of "post hoc rationalization" - while there may be some doubts in the beginning, every decision or choice immediately seems better and justified as soon as it is selected. Works especially great in social settings where noone wants to be a dummy who made a mistake or just behaved inconsistently.
Would have been interesting to see how many people who were offered the $1 actually agreed to do the job. In keeping with the cognitive dissonance theory, about 50% should have declined the offer.
Because 1 dollar wasn't really "worth" lying, they felt their actions didn't match their behavior, and therefore they decreased their cognitive dissonance subconsciously by legitimately convincing themselves it was enjoyable. The 20 dollar group felt lying for 20 dollars was worth it, so their actions matched their behaviors, and therefore they didn't feel any dissonance and as a result did not convince themselves the task was enjoyable. Hopefully that helps.
Somehow I can closely relate ... over here they'll do it for free. Thanks though you just became subject matters for my future dissertation. How nice of you!
This explains how parents can convince themselves that having children was a "good" idea. They've been convinced that it's the best thing in the world, by other parents who feel dissonance between their expectations and reality, so they convince themselves that they're happy. They also sell the idea to other people, in hopes that they're not alone, and justified in their mistake.
@@marianbundel1229 That’s your opinion. Plenty of people regret having children. A lot call their children “accidents”. So, don’t try to force your opinion on other people. Not everyone views procreation as some magical process. It’s just biology.
Actually here the cognition or judgemental aspect is also considered to be influential owing to the fact that everyone here is a layman and normal... Well its great experiment to make people aware of their own beliefs and immediate state of being
I understand and believe that cognitive dissonance is a real thing but I never liked this experiment, I find it hard to believe that some if not most of the $1 subjects didn't just tell the next subject that they gave him a dollar to say the experiment was fun but it wasn't because that's what I would do.
We all have dissonance if you don't absolutely love your job. That paycheck is addictive.. We also conform because everyone else is doing it and believe it must be the right thing to do.. Meanwhile the dark lord of the sith somewhere is rubbing his hands laughing at the general public for falling for this 'culture/system/society' we live in
Not only everyone else is doing it, but you'll be judged harshly for speaking against it. You're speaking against something that is now beloved. You'll be called a commie.
But this video also explains why people with good jobs have rants about their "miserable life", while starving artists will thank ,at least, the opportunity to keep creating with no or little money in the bank. 😂😃
At 1:14 he uses the phrase, "paritory mental set." I was not familiar with the word paritory so I googled it. It comes up as an obsolete or out of use word. Interesting.
About "The Fox and the Grapes" by Aesop... One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I am sure they are sour." It is easy to despise what you cannot get. What I wanted was to die among strangers, untroubled, beneath a cloudless sky. And yet my desire differed from the sentiments of that ancient Greek who wanted to die under the brilliant sun. What I wanted was some natural, spontaneous suicide. I wanted a death like that of a fox, not yet well versed in cunning, that walks carelessly along a mountain path and is shot by a hunter because of its own stupidity… Because Cognitive Dissonance is an illusion.
There are so many ways to "slice it" as they say, that it's practically worthless as any kind of axiom or core principal of psychology. If I were managing a Sales Force I'd simply see it as an indicator of who has the potential to be the most engaging and convincing sales person whether they have any personal interest in a given product, or not. _That's why psych is a _*_gut_*_ _*_course_*_ and so many of the athletic scholarships end up as psych or soc majors._
however, a hypothesis can be tested in psych can be tested in social psych and can be tested in physics. most sciences are actually advanced by gut feelings. proper application of the scientific method separates a wrong gut feeling from a correct gut feeling. that is science.
this is common knowledge. I just think they could have created a different experiment to better explain it tho. I’f somebody just gives you a car most people won’t enjoy that car as much as if they had to work for the money to buy it themselves.
Cognitive Dissonance is also physical you can not never escape Cognitive Dissonance if your in a environment that does not aligns with your beliefs and lifesyle unless if you leave the environment and move to a diferente one that aligns with your way of life
i studied this awhile ago from my social psych, but i never fully understand it...How does the $1 subjects lie to themselves that the experiment is fun ? sorry for my stupidity
Hi, my English is not perfect but I hope my explanation will be good enough. The subject, who is paid 1 dollar has not a reason to back up his behaviour, whereas the other says to himself:"well, they paid me 20 bucks this justifies my behaviour". The orher one thinks:"they paid me 1 dollar, so I'm doing this shit for one dollar, what the fuck? If I'm doing it it means that the experience was not that bad". When there is a cognitive dissonance either you change your behaviour to fit your beliefs or you change your beliefs to fit your behaviours. Get it now? :)
Thanks guys. Recently I learned that the subject could change attitude also if the reinforcement is very high, for example here 50 dollars. There is one experience where the subjects have to try 6 bitter solutions for 1 dollar. At the end of the the experience we ask if the subjects want to try 18 bitter solutions for: - 1 dollar - 3 dollars - 5 dollars For the 1 dollar condition and the 5 dollars condition there is a change in terms of attitude, whereas for the 3 dollars there is not a change, meaning they say "we didn't like the experience". This to say that people change attitudes depending on the reinforcement. If the reinforcement is not enough or more than usual there is a change in attitude.
for 6 bitter solutions they were paid one dollar, for 18 bitter solutions (6x3=18) they would expect 3 dollars (1x3=3), they compare how much money they get in the second experience according to the first one.
Enjakk Another explanation could be that she anwered the easy answer to the man so she wouldn't have to confront him by saying something like "i dont like to do this without decent wage" if her previous experiences about similar things have resulted in dispute/negative things. So she says "it's fun" witch is a suggestion on herself that will enforce her behavior next time similar occasion happens and feel like she likes it because her selfsuggestion. Just my own theory
the members who received a reward which they saw as insufficient basically had dissonance, they knew they had to lie, but also knew it wasn't worth it, to overcome this they lied to themselves and convinced themselves that the lie was actually true
The “student subjects” absolutely look and sound like someone performing for a camera. NOT someone in a study under laboratory conditions. Their behaviors, actions, and words are ALL different because of the cameras. Assuming they aren’t just told what to say and read a script to begin with...
THIS!!!!!!! That’s exactly what I’m noticing! *WHY* has no one else spoke on this. 😭😭😭Dude said word for word what the first Gal who said ‘it was fun’ did. And every time they had the camera on him he made a smirk after his line was done. The Gal who said she’d do it again (the one who also said it was fun) made her “thought process” moment look too thought out. Red flags everywhere. Even Festinger couldn’t stop blinking so fast after reading his cue cards nor trying to help the participants remember which answer they’re supposed to give. This shit is a joke. I can’t believe my teacher made us watch this. 😒
@@tschooptschoop I disagree, this is my first exposure to cognitive dissonance theory and I think it's quite interesting! I also like how proper and well spoken the young people in the video were.
I agree. super dull and a mixture of a word scramble. I'm sure it's just me, but this is confusing. im on my 3rd replay trying to make sense little by little for an essay
@@jenniferpacheco1975 you’re not the only one. I’m studying this in my first year psychology course in college and it doesn’t make sense lol. I don’t understand how people can convince themselves of a lie like that
Where did they find these fabulous actors??? If only the producers of "Mad Men" could get a hold of these talented youngsters, the show would be improved dramatically!
I'm not certain your intended concept regarding the "Bribe", but in case this is a suobject you are studying, I'm going to offer a bit more clarity on the subject. Bribe is a separate subject from Cognitive Dissonance. One could literally suffer Cognitive Dissonance as a result of the Bribe. The subject is further separated by those whom are bothered by the ethics challenges for accepting a bribe, others lack a large enough guilt factor to cause them any Cognitive Dissonance. The variance of remorse, guilt, fear, anxiety, etc will vary by personality from those whom simply will not accept a bribe, those whom do but suffer as a result, those whom make the decision based on the level of the task (wouldn't take a bribe for an act that causes pain or harm, but would If it were marginal untruths to get a sale), *and then there's the individual that's a diagnosable Narcissist Personality Disorder, (Note: a variance will run in different Diagnosed NPD's from some signs of the variables to no measurable signs and intermittent values where some subjects have some response and others do not). The NPD Individual will be observed as having little to no feelings of guilt, responsibility for self actions, they are void of empathy, sympathy, and absent in emotions of love and respect for other humans and animals. The later could be seen to suffer Cognitive Dissonance in specific cases, such as: Example: growing up to believe in their Learned Reality that Humans are the only Human-type species in the Universe and then come to a time when the Government Discloses there are other InterStellar Beings living in an exchange on Earth. Or the taught history gains an update and rather than a mere 7,000 - 15,000 years of Human Civilizations, it is more accurately updated and it's identified that the Earth has had several Chapters of Civilizations dating back some 200M years and 5 Advanced Civilizations that were impacted by catastrophes and each had to redevelop from scratch +/-. These situations would affect masses with Cognitive Dissonance, including those with strong Personality Disorders. (You can trust my descriptions" I'm a long time Grad with Research Experience and degrees in Sociology with focus in Social-Psychology, Journalism, and History.)
You must be so used to people lieing to you (or lieing to others) that you've simply grown insensitive and just accept it. What you're missing is respect for truth, principals.
@landbridge I wouldn't say that. Every day examples are Children. Between diapers, money drain, time, cooking, cleaning, washing, nurturing, etc. Also, most people stay in tough relationships BECAUSE they have been through so much, already, that they hate to "throw it all away".
A good example of cognitive dissonance is when I stop watching this video in less the first 30 seconds I will feel good about not listening to his annoying voice anymore, but i will feel regret for having stopped listening to something that could potentially help me.
So why didn’t they film the original experiment? It’s odd that they really recreated this. The acting is horrible. And it doesn’t really create a clear experiment outcome (IMO) cause it’s so staged. They should’ve just secretly recorded the OG experiment & asked the participants after if their video could be used.
@stoddcrew and @MsXXX360: This is Phillip Zimbardo. Phillip Zimbardo as in "the Stanford Prison Experiments" Phillip Zimbardo. So even if this video was boring or annoying (which it isn't), I'm pretty sure those Experiments give Zimbardo a complete pass in the worlds of morality and psychology. He's a hero.
They both said they enjoyed in when they were pitching the next subject. Afterwards, however, they were asked if they really enjoyed the task. At that point there was no one asking them to lie.
@JasonBentleyJones I hear what u r saying, that cognitive dissonance occurs in daily life. Even in deciding what to eat for breakfast, I find waiting 3 hours sometime not eating at all because of the millions of reasons from dishes to what to eat. weird.
Not quite the same. Cognitive dissonance is the conflict of 2 opposing thoughts, usually leading to the preexisting thought prevailing over the other more recent thought, due to some justification on the part of the subject. In doublethink, there is no such conflict, so 2 conflicting thoughts can 'peacefully' coexist in the subject's mind.
classic example of people that say "i love my job" when actually the root foundation of work goes against basic instincts like feedom. And that most people wouldn't do there job if it weren't for the money!
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I follow. I'm sure the atrocities committed in WWII were a motivation for this research. The CD model would make a interesting documentary if adapted to politics & or religion. Excuse my ignorance, but how do they determine that the person/people are not just a better liars, as apposed to a "believer(s)?" Also, are children more prone to CD than adults or do we get more comfortable w/ our CD as time passes & conceal it better as a result? If you know of any good docs, let me know. Thanks.
8 years ago I was introduced to the notion of cd. But just now I actually am beginning to understand the damn process. The more I get it, the clearer the bullshit cloud around us becomes. The other title of this vid, should be: Why and how we bullshit other people, beginning with our selves? ez to remember: "cd is bs" Cd is a discomfort. If you feel it, it is not nice, but it also means that something is not fine in yr life. If you feel fine, then maybe everything is fine in your life. But if it isn't fine, but you feel fine, it has to mean that you are lying to yourself. And the bullshit, just helps you to cope. But the truth is still there.
@Sándor Tóth Yup. Both Capitalism and Communism are garbage and are equally bad. Maybe there is a little more poverty on one and a little more destruction of the planet's ability to sustain life, but both are actually super dumb. Maybe some middle ground or something new, i don't actually know.
It's like natinalism in various countries (any political system) the authorities do some costly or bad things and nationalists will support no matter what
To me it seems as if the young lady thinks she's still participating in the lying aspect of the experiment when he asks her if she'd do it again. She pauses quite a while before answering.
+Al Sunshine That's because of the contradiction that is playing in her head. She just told the guy she enjoyed the experiment but when asked if she would do it again her real opinion, of it being a dull and tedious game, pops up and wanted to overrule the lie. In the end she still went with the lie even though you could feel she wouldn't enjoy doing that. We'd prefer doing tedious things rather than losing face.
Did a car salesman really just gave me a lesson in cognitive dissonance?
_True_
It's Philip Zimbardo: A social psychologist and not just some car salesman
Calidrius: That was my first thought when the video started... why is Dr Zimbardo in a car dealer's lot??... the very people who have perfected the craft of ignoring C.D. I suspect it was a subliminal message ;-D
Car salesman would be the best person to show you cognitive dissonance, by inducing it on you.
Can't believe you asked that question! Dr. Philip Zimbardo is a famous social psychologist who conducted the famous Stanford prison experiment.
I didn't quite understand until the $20 guy said it sucked & the $1 gal said she'd do it again. *aha!*
Very interesting. Also, I was curious about inflation (for the sake of perspective) so I looked it up. In 1957, $1 = appx $9 & $20 = appx $170.
na its becuase we change our belifs to match our actions. If we are payed so little to say we enjoyed it then the must have enjoyed doing that task
“Sometimes people hold a core belief that is very strong. When they are presented with evidence that works against that belief, the new evidence cannot be accepted. It would create a feeling that is extremely uncomfortable, called cognitive dissonance. And because it is so important to protect the core belief, they will rationalize, ignore and even deny anything that doesn't fit in with the core belief.”
- Frantz Fanon, Black Skin, White Masks
@Hilbert França 🙄
That is NOT cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance only refers to conflicting beliefs about oneself. Evidence to the contrary about things outside oneself is another social psychology theory- either belief perseverance (refusing to change beliefs even when disconfirming evidence exists) and or confirmation bias ( tending to look for and interpret and remember information according to one's own beliefs) This is a common misconception about what cognitive dissonance is.
"People come to believe in and love the things they have to suffer for" - I'm going to frame this sentence and recite it daily, for the remainder of my life. Simply goes to prove how MUCH power one single sentence has.
Really it is a profound bit of insight!
Right. Put “Mainstream Media Viewers.”, beneath it, just in case anyone needs an epitomical example.
Also, any wage slave job. News media viewers is better, though.
So this is how politics works.
+David Starr (SuperDavesGarage) Cognitive dissodance applies to everything, even the truth.
+dan16000 No, politics use ad hominem, strawman, etc to avoid the "real issue(s).
tigger0777 What is strawman?
and racism
SlypherSpoons Good one! Congnative dissonance is central in racism it occurs when your behavior is in contridict to what you hold to be true. Consider, how do you reconcile the European or so called civilizers behaving in such a barbaric way toward the many brown and black people globally for example? This is actually at its very core a huge component of racism, humans don't function well under these circumstances and dissonance must be removed. Thus you have things like the 3/5 compromise reducing blacks to 3/5ths of a human, or sanctioning the rape of enslaved individual because quote "their sex is promiscuous and in turn they are unable to be raped." Or in contemporary society convincing yourself blacks behave differently from other races, are more violent and are less desirable to be around. both are attempting to remove the dissonance by creating a reality where the behavior is justified. of course I am black so I'm entering this conversation on a different level then you I assume.
"They come to belief they have to love what they suffer for." Abusive relationship anyone?
Or pride
The transfer of information between neurons becomes optimal when their activity is synchronized. This is the same reason why we experience cognitive dissonance, the frustration caused by simultaneously holding two contradictory ideas.
Will is merely the drive to reduce dissonance between each of our active neural circuits.
Fascinating. I doubted your comment at first, but it looks like there is actually science that backs that up. "There is evidence suggesting that the more the anterior cingulate cortex signals conflict, the more dissonance a person experiences" -Wikipedia page on Cognitive Dissonance.
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Meta Patriot Interesting. Does this mean that "free will" is beyond "choosing" or something along that line?
@@jeonesevenv9 absolutely yesss
$20 was a lot of money back then!
Once we are paid to lie, we are also more likely to lie to the researcher.
Most of America needs to watch this.
Your absolutely correct…
I'm making a quick mil writting about this experiment. Thank you for your servitude and volunteering yourselves for the sake of the sciences.
I think it's part of adaptive human behavior. CD is an observation, or finding in that humans can adapt to survive in almost any situation. Even if its against their long term survival..people can change their belief as much and as long as they can presume they will have to endure the dissonance, But changing the behavior is what is required to alleviate the dissonance, which usually requires more effort from the individual, and usually why they change their belief instead.
how u dare! this is Professor P. Zimbardo! one of the most eminent personality in Psychology! With the Stamford Experiment he made the History...
Great men. Dr. Zimbardo and Festinger.
Also reminds me of "post hoc rationalization" - while there may be some doubts in the beginning, every decision or choice immediately seems better and justified as soon as it is selected. Works especially great in social settings where noone wants to be a dummy who made a mistake or just behaved inconsistently.
The comments in reference to this video helped me on my theory paper (about cognitive dissonance) than the video itself did. Thanks y'all!
Cognitive Dissonance describes the exact times we are living in right now.
The exact economic system we live in most of the world.
You mean RIGHT now? lol
Yes right now lol people love all this shit, fallen in love with those who have kidnapped their lives
@@bathombre9739 soooo you mean less because people loved there system a lot more back then. And if you didn’t you where a communist
It's 2023 still relevant In today's dajjalic antichrist decieving times
This guy did the Stanford Prison Experiment
+Liliputian07 The Stanford Prison Experiment was done by three psychologists Phillip Zimbardo Craig Haney and Curtis Banks
Scruffex
Yeah
This is Zimbardo
You know this only discredits this experiment, right?
@@Djanck000
I just thought it was interesting dude
Would have been interesting to see how many people who were offered the $1 actually agreed to do the job. In keeping with the cognitive dissonance theory, about 50% should have declined the offer.
Woah. It hits different when you watch it the second time. I recommend everyone to try it 👌🏼
This is a hard concept for most people to wrap their heads around. You really need to work for the state department to fully get this.
Thank you ! Last minute study session before final exam :p
Can someone dumb it down so I can understand it, please?
Because 1 dollar wasn't really "worth" lying, they felt their actions didn't match their behavior, and therefore they decreased their cognitive dissonance subconsciously by legitimately convincing themselves it was enjoyable.
The 20 dollar group felt lying for 20 dollars was worth it, so their actions matched their behaviors, and therefore they didn't feel any dissonance and as a result did not convince themselves the task was enjoyable.
Hopefully that helps.
everyone needs to know what this is. why does this video not have 7 billion views
Somehow I can closely relate ... over here they'll do it for free. Thanks though you just became subject matters for my future dissertation. How nice of you!
For reference: one group was paid the equivalent of $200 and the other $12 for lying!
I don't think that really works much, All the people I've treated like crap hated me, those I treated well loved me
OMG, proof of the wage gap!
This explains how parents can convince themselves that having children was a "good" idea. They've been convinced that it's the best thing in the world, by other parents who feel dissonance between their expectations and reality, so they convince themselves that they're happy. They also sell the idea to other people, in hopes that they're not alone, and justified in their mistake.
Randi bringing a human to live is not a mistake, even when it is not planned. It is a miracle. What a bad example. I guess you're biased big time.
@@marianbundel1229 That’s your opinion. Plenty of people regret having children. A lot call their children “accidents”. So, don’t try to force your opinion on other people. Not everyone views procreation as some magical process. It’s just biology.
@@Steersky ofcourse, only my personal opiniu
Actually here the cognition or judgemental aspect is also considered to be influential owing to the fact that everyone here is a layman and normal... Well its great experiment to make people aware of their own beliefs and immediate state of being
It's like Zimbardo's voice doesn't match his looks lol
lol, true, from his looks he should have a deep satanic voice
100 percent
I understand and believe that cognitive dissonance is a real thing but I never liked this experiment, I find it hard to believe that some if not most of the $1 subjects didn't just tell the next subject that they gave him a dollar to say the experiment was fun but it wasn't because that's what I would do.
So what exactly is an "insufficient reward"?
We all have dissonance if you don't absolutely love your job. That paycheck is addictive.. We also conform because everyone else is doing it and believe it must be the right thing to do.. Meanwhile the dark lord of the sith somewhere is rubbing his hands laughing at the general public for falling for this 'culture/system/society' we live in
"Oy vey"
dam son
who's the dark lord?
Not only everyone else is doing it, but you'll be judged harshly for speaking against it. You're speaking against something that is now beloved. You'll be called a commie.
But this video also explains why people with good jobs have rants about their "miserable life", while starving artists will thank ,at least, the opportunity to keep creating with no or little money in the bank. 😂😃
“People come to believe in an to love the things they have to suffer for”
Life is suffering Jesus suffered etc.
@@AnnaLVajda that's a limited way of living life
Vsauce indeed
Before it became cool
At 1:14 he uses the phrase, "paritory mental set." I was not familiar with the word paritory so I googled it. It comes up as an obsolete or out of use word. Interesting.
I think you'll find he says "preparatory mental set".
About "The Fox and the Grapes" by Aesop...
One hot summer's day a Fox was strolling through an orchard till he came to a bunch of Grapes just ripening on a vine which had been trained over a lofty branch. "Just the thing to quench my thirst," quoth he. Drawing back a few paces, he took a run and a jump, and just missed the bunch. Turning round again with a One, Two, Three, he jumped up, but with no greater success. Again and again he tried after the tempting morsel, but at last had to give it up, and walked away with his nose in the air, saying: "I am sure they are sour."
It is easy to despise what you cannot get.
What I wanted was to die among strangers, untroubled, beneath a cloudless sky. And yet my desire differed from the sentiments of that ancient Greek who wanted to die under the brilliant sun. What I wanted was some natural, spontaneous suicide. I wanted a death like that of a fox, not yet well versed in cunning, that walks carelessly along a mountain path and is shot by a hunter because of its own stupidity…
Because Cognitive Dissonance is an illusion.
There are so many ways to "slice it" as they say, that it's practically worthless as any kind of axiom or core principal of psychology.
If I were managing a Sales Force I'd simply see it as an indicator of who has the potential to be the most engaging and convincing sales person whether they have any personal interest in a given product, or not.
_That's why psych is a _*_gut_*_ _*_course_*_ and so many of the athletic scholarships end up as psych or soc majors._
however, a hypothesis can be tested in psych can be tested in social psych and can be tested in physics. most sciences are actually advanced by gut feelings. proper application of the scientific method separates a wrong gut feeling from a correct gut feeling. that is science.
this is common knowledge. I just think they could have created a different experiment to better explain it tho.
I’f somebody just gives you a car most people won’t enjoy that car as much as if they had to work for the money to buy it themselves.
Hi from 2021 when most of people in this world are cultivating their immense dissonances.
The audio was poor, but I think I understand the concept. It sounded more like buyer's remorse with no way out
This was a great video on Cognitive Dissonance
This and the ELM theory are my favs.
I was looking for Wolfgang Gartner's song, but ended up watching this and found it pretty interesting.
This is how Bankers, CEO's and Politicians can operate guilt free.
Those hatchbacks in scene 1 are sweet...
So if the $1 dollar is insufficient of a reward don't the students just tell the truth and not lie?
Exactly. I don’t get it lol
This is what happens when I buy a plastic bottle. I know that the ocean is drowing in plastic but I want something to mix with rum.
Cognitive Dissonance is also physical you can not never escape Cognitive Dissonance if your in a environment that does not aligns with your beliefs and lifesyle unless if you leave the environment and move to a diferente one that aligns with your way of life
i studied this awhile ago from my social psych, but i never fully understand it...How does the $1 subjects lie to themselves that the experiment is fun ? sorry for my stupidity
Hi, my English is not perfect but I hope my explanation will be good enough. The subject, who is paid 1 dollar has not a reason to back up his behaviour, whereas the other says to himself:"well, they paid me 20 bucks this justifies my behaviour". The orher one thinks:"they paid me 1 dollar, so I'm doing this shit for one dollar, what the fuck? If I'm doing it it means that the experience was not that bad". When there is a cognitive dissonance either you change your behaviour to fit your beliefs or you change your beliefs to fit your behaviours. Get it now? :)
Enjakk well done.
Thanks guys. Recently I learned that the subject could change attitude also if the reinforcement is very high, for example here 50 dollars.
There is one experience where the subjects have to try 6 bitter solutions for 1 dollar. At the end of the the experience we ask if the subjects want to try 18 bitter solutions for:
- 1 dollar
- 3 dollars
- 5 dollars
For the 1 dollar condition and the 5 dollars condition there is a change in terms of attitude, whereas for the 3 dollars there is not a change, meaning they say "we didn't like the experience". This to say that people change attitudes depending on the reinforcement. If the reinforcement is not enough or more than usual there is a change in attitude.
for 6 bitter solutions they were paid one dollar, for 18 bitter solutions (6x3=18) they would expect 3 dollars (1x3=3), they compare how much money they get in the second experience according to the first one.
Enjakk Another explanation could be that she anwered the easy answer to the man so she wouldn't have to confront him by saying something like "i dont like to do this without decent wage" if her previous experiences about similar things have resulted in dispute/negative things. So she says "it's fun" witch is a suggestion on herself that will enforce her behavior next time similar occasion happens and feel like she likes it because her selfsuggestion. Just my own theory
the members who received a reward which they saw as insufficient basically had dissonance, they knew they had to lie, but also knew it wasn't worth it, to overcome this they lied to themselves and convinced themselves that the lie was actually true
The “student subjects” absolutely look and sound like someone performing for a camera. NOT someone in a study under laboratory conditions. Their behaviors, actions, and words are ALL different because of the cameras. Assuming they aren’t just told what to say and read a script to begin with...
THIS!!!!!!! That’s exactly what I’m noticing! *WHY* has no one else spoke on this. 😭😭😭Dude said word for word what the first Gal who said ‘it was fun’ did. And every time they had the camera on him he made a smirk after his line was done. The Gal who said she’d do it again (the one who also said it was fun) made her “thought process” moment look too thought out. Red flags everywhere. Even Festinger couldn’t stop blinking so fast after reading his cue cards nor trying to help the participants remember which answer they’re supposed to give. This shit is a joke. I can’t believe my teacher made us watch this. 😒
I dont know why anybody isnt talking about this but this looks staged af. Their dialogues are fake too with the cameras on their head.
The actual Phillip Zimbardo and Leon Festinger on this video.
IM NOT WORTHY, IM NOT WORTHY, IM NOT WORTHY
In your mind you need it but its not what you really want...
Unless I misinterpreted it, they weren't being payed for lying. They were being paid to take a job, right?
Brilliant stuff. Thanks for posting it.
watching this video is a tedious task.
Did someone pay you to say that?
Timothy Pulliam no i agree and no one paid me. ok everybody could say that :D but it's true. it's boring as fuck.
@@tschooptschoop I disagree, this is my first exposure to cognitive dissonance theory and I think it's quite interesting! I also like how proper and well spoken the young people in the video were.
I agree. super dull and a mixture of a word scramble. I'm sure it's just me, but this is confusing. im on my 3rd replay trying to make sense little by little for an essay
@@jenniferpacheco1975 you’re not the only one. I’m studying this in my first year psychology course in college and it doesn’t make sense lol. I don’t understand how people can convince themselves of a lie like that
This is why games that are stressful are the most played such as LoL and CoD, mostly multiplayer games. Just my theory.
Where did they find these fabulous actors??? If only the producers of "Mad Men" could get a hold of these talented youngsters, the show would be improved dramatically!
In the case of a person with OCD, it can trigger an opposite effect.
"20 dollars? that'd be fine" is a golden fuckin line! damn!
This also shows the power of bribe.
I'm not certain your intended concept regarding the "Bribe", but in case this is a suobject you are studying, I'm going to offer a bit more clarity on the subject.
Bribe is a separate subject from Cognitive Dissonance. One could literally suffer Cognitive Dissonance as a result of the Bribe.
The subject is further separated by those whom are bothered by the ethics challenges for accepting a bribe, others lack a large enough guilt factor to cause them any Cognitive Dissonance.
The variance of remorse, guilt, fear, anxiety, etc will vary by personality from those whom simply will not accept a bribe, those whom do but suffer as a result, those whom make the decision based on the level of the task (wouldn't take a bribe for an act that causes pain or harm, but would If it were marginal untruths to get a sale), *and then there's the individual that's a diagnosable Narcissist Personality Disorder, (Note: a variance will run in different Diagnosed NPD's from some signs of the variables to no measurable signs and intermittent values where some subjects have some response and others do not). The NPD Individual will be observed as having little to no feelings of guilt, responsibility for self actions, they are void of empathy, sympathy, and absent in emotions of love and respect for other humans and animals.
The later could be seen to suffer Cognitive Dissonance in specific cases, such as:
Example: growing up to believe in their Learned Reality that Humans are the only Human-type species in the Universe and then come to a time when the Government Discloses there are other InterStellar Beings living in an exchange on Earth.
Or the taught history gains an update and rather than a mere 7,000 - 15,000 years of Human Civilizations, it is more accurately updated and it's identified that the Earth has had several Chapters of Civilizations dating back some 200M years and 5 Advanced Civilizations that were impacted by catastrophes and each had to redevelop from scratch +/-.
These situations would affect masses with Cognitive Dissonance, including those with strong Personality Disorders.
(You can trust my descriptions" I'm a long time Grad with Research Experience and degrees in Sociology with focus in Social-Psychology, Journalism, and History.)
$1 bribe and the world is sold.
Isn't that the crazy guy that did the unethical Stanford prison experiment?
You must be so used to people lieing to you (or lieing to others) that you've simply grown insensitive and just accept it.
What you're missing is respect for truth, principals.
Holy shit!!!! Its Sir Anton LeVay
Interesting! I used this video in my blog to explain more about CD
This also helps explain why people will vote against their best interests.
@landbridge I wouldn't say that. Every day examples are Children. Between diapers, money drain, time, cooking, cleaning, washing, nurturing, etc.
Also, most people stay in tough relationships BECAUSE they have been through so much, already, that they hate to "throw it all away".
It is Murray, from Flight of the Conchords!
A good example of cognitive dissonance is when I stop watching this video in less the first 30 seconds I will feel good about not listening to his annoying voice anymore, but i will feel regret for having stopped listening to something that could potentially help me.
This isn't the real vid folks its just a reconstruction. There were no female subjects in the experiment, only one the actress at the end.
So why didn’t they film the original experiment? It’s odd that they really recreated this. The acting is horrible. And it doesn’t really create a clear experiment outcome (IMO) cause it’s so staged. They should’ve just secretly recorded the OG experiment & asked the participants after if their video could be used.
@stoddcrew and @MsXXX360:
This is Phillip Zimbardo. Phillip Zimbardo as in "the Stanford Prison Experiments" Phillip Zimbardo. So even if this video was boring or annoying (which it isn't), I'm pretty sure those Experiments give Zimbardo a complete pass in the worlds of morality and psychology. He's a hero.
I'm pretty sure there are flaws in this experiment, like I would say it was fun because they told me too and I wouldn't want to ruin the experiment...
They both said they enjoyed in when they were pitching the next subject. Afterwards, however, they were asked if they really enjoyed the task. At that point there was no one asking them to lie.
Ahh I guess that makes more sense haha
Cognitive dissonance and money are the strings that pull the puppets strings
Hell with this test ! Let's dance the Madison!!
Never wear a suit and walk in a car lot talking passionately to a camera. Lesson learned.
Exactly, and ALOT of us do it.
Isn't hat the guy that led the Stanford Prison Expirement?
@JasonBentleyJones I hear what u r saying, that cognitive dissonance occurs in daily life. Even in deciding what to eat for breakfast, I find waiting 3 hours sometime not eating at all because of the millions of reasons from dishes to what to eat. weird.
Spot on!
so basically we crave for constant approval and gratification
"Idealizing Parenthood to Rationalize Parental Investments" (Eibach & Mock, 2011)
Not quite the same. Cognitive dissonance is the conflict of 2 opposing thoughts, usually leading to the preexisting thought prevailing over the other more recent thought, due to some justification on the part of the subject. In doublethink, there is no such conflict, so 2 conflicting thoughts can 'peacefully' coexist in the subject's mind.
classic example of people that say "i love my job" when actually the root foundation of work goes against basic instincts like feedom. And that most people wouldn't do there job if it weren't for the money!
It doesn't matter if the people on the top are Jews, or china men. If they lead into captivity, they will be held captive.
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3:12 This guy looks like a Der Sturmer caricature come to life!
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Those Ford escorts: wowwwww, takes me back!! lololol
I follow. I'm sure the atrocities committed in WWII were a motivation for this research. The CD model would make a interesting documentary if adapted to politics & or religion.
Excuse my ignorance, but how do they determine that the person/people are not just a better liars, as apposed to a "believer(s)?" Also, are children more prone to CD than adults or do we get more comfortable w/ our CD as time passes & conceal it better as a result? If you know of any good docs, let me know. Thanks.
Why is a slick car salesman teaching me about cognitive dissonance?
8 years ago I was introduced to the notion of cd. But just now I actually am beginning to understand the damn process. The more I get it, the clearer the bullshit cloud around us becomes. The other title of this vid, should be: Why and how we bullshit other people, beginning with our selves? ez to remember: "cd is bs"
Cd is a discomfort. If you feel it, it is not nice, but it also means that something is not fine in yr life. If you feel fine, then maybe everything is fine in your life. But if it isn't fine, but you feel fine, it has to mean that you are lying to yourself. And the bullshit, just helps you to cope. But the truth is still there.
wage slavery explained.
Capitalism in a nutshell.
@Sándor Tóth Yup. Both Capitalism and Communism are garbage and are equally bad. Maybe there is a little more poverty on one and a little more destruction of the planet's ability to sustain life, but both are actually super dumb.
Maybe some middle ground or something new, i don't actually know.
I love this...
Does this mean that poor people should be happier or that rich people are happier because they know it's okay to complain?
It's like natinalism in various countries (any political system) the authorities do some costly or bad things and nationalists will support no matter what
To me it seems as if the young lady thinks she's still participating in the lying aspect of the experiment when he asks her if she'd do it again. She pauses quite a while before answering.
+Al Sunshine That's because of the contradiction that is playing in her head.
She just told the guy she enjoyed the experiment but when asked if she would do it again her real opinion, of it being a dull and tedious game, pops up and wanted to overrule the lie. In the end she still went with the lie even though you could feel she wouldn't enjoy doing that.
We'd prefer doing tedious things rather than losing face.
So the person that gets paid less does a better more enthusiastic job as apposed to the person that is paid more?
@ stoddcrew....thats hilarious....had to watch for a class