@@chriscross5689 Speed wobbles caused by strong crosswinds down long, fast descents are unnerving. Check out my wobble on DT Swiss 1400 62s at 2:50: th-cam.com/video/tHrjjsUcf5I/w-d-xo.html
I am physically a mountain rider. My weakness is the flat surface, which is why I opted for the 50mm Syncros Capital 1.0 disc wheels for my Scott Addict RC. And it feels so much better to drive in the area. And since there were aluminum wheels before, it now feels much stiffer and more aggressive in the mountains with the carbon wheels. I love it.
You are to funny, this video was great, the demonstration was great, the face covering was the best. Way to educate & make us laugh at the same time 👍🏼 Keep keeping it real, and being you... it works for us!
In general, aero is always more important than weight, despite the single use case where you climb up a hill and stop right at the top. As soon as you go back down the aero advantage will make up for the slight weight penalty. For the cross-wind topic:it comes down much more to the shape of the dish than the depth. If you are riding a modern designed shape it is as efficient in cross-winds for 65mm as for older 35mms...
@@GCPerformance18 why do people say this. I’m 6ft2” and 260lbs try riding into a headwind up a hill. Weight and aero counts. It’s the weight that slows you down the most.I’m a aero fan. Madone SLR9 on aelous6 wheels. Would I be fast up that hill with more aero wheels? No. Lol. I lose races on hills not on the flat. Weight is always my nemesis.
@@OFFSHOREDOUG That's just not true. This has been studied. Aero trumps weight at light to moderate inclines(up to something like 6-7%) even at lower speeds like 15km/h, which... idk... maybe that is 250w?
If you fix the speed then 100grams weight is equal to about 1 watt difference. The effect of weight through gravity is actually linear. However! if you are lighter then you will at the same wattage go faster for the same watts, so actually it can in that sense become more important for a lighter rider(if strong enough) to focus a bit more on improving aero on the hills compared to weight.
I have almost a dozen wheelsets of varying sizes. I often run my goto wheelset of dura ace c50s, but will find them on a fast downhill, especially on foothill/mountain roads the ever changing wind direction do make it challenging, especially at 35 mph decents. I’ve never lost control but have had a shot of adrenaline when a gust put me in a different lane or messed up an apex on a turn. That said I have some Carbon 24s and they just feel light but slow. My favorites are that 35-45 size, which is a good compromise. If you live in a flat area you may be able to get away larger as a primary wheelset.
I got some dt swiss wheels in 62mm. Was worried about crosswinds at first but it is exactly as you‘re saying. Modern rim shapes are very good at dealing with crosswinds and the difference to a regular 20-30mm shallow rim isn‘t very noticeable. If a crosswind hits you in a nasty way you‘ll have to concentrate and correct anyway
The deepest wheels I had were 55. They were great but like you, living near the beach we'd get some pretty strong crosswinds. I was never really scared of being blown off my bike but a deeper dish wheel became less efficient in the crosswind because you have to make constant micro-adjustments for the wind taking you off your line a bit. Normally on windier days I'd go to a 32. I ended finding I could still maintain my speed whilst cutting the weight. Now I ride anything from a 37 to 45 and seems like it makes the best all-around wheel. Something like the Zipp 303 or 404 and the Enve 4.5 give you the best of both worlds while still looking great. Wheels are the best upgrade to feel an immediate impact on your riding and the best investment to put into your bike as you can take them and use them on your next bike too.
I just got my first set of CF wheels for my Cannondale SuperSixEvo - I ended up getting Vision Metron 40’s and I gota say I’m loving them. I can definitely feel them more in the crosswinds (as compared to my super basic, shallow, aluminum wheel) , and as a relatively new rider with still new rider bike handling skills I’m glad I didn’t get 50’s or 60’s. Eventually, as I get more experienced I’ll likely get deeper wheels but for now my Metron 40’s are sweeeeet
hey as long as you are happy and they do the job you are going to just get better with them and understand how they work and get the most out fo the wheels in the future
I’m on Aeolus 6 which can get caught in gusts above 30mph but great otherwise. I’m 260lbs which obviously might make it easier for me. Only reason I would get shallower would be for racing which I don’t do.
I still think your Ray Romano, great demo but I've gotta lot a hills my way so I went for 35s, once you ride carbon the difference is night & day, keep the vids comin love em
@@GCPerformance18 I probably have about 7 rides on them now. They roll pretty good. I was around 17 mph regularly pedaling with the aluminum Fulcrums that came on my Prince. But with these Hunts I’m at 19/20 mph and the sound of the ratchet is obnoxious!! And I love it!
I have the Hunt 4050s. GC is right that getting carbon wheels is the best upgrade you can do to your road bike. I too have increased my avg speed by 2mph compared to the aluminum wheels. The 4050s have improved my ability to maintain my top end speed.
A few months ago, I purchased some 60mm deep wheels. I was looking for 40 to 50 mm. I really like the wheels and they are light for their depth. I just think they look kind of weird on a climbing bike which is a 2018 Cannondale SuperSix High Mod. I got them because I thought they were cool and my big brother talked me into it some as well. He thinks they look cool and I think they look weird. I think they would look better on an aero bike. My bike came with shallow climbing wheels. I do live in central N. Carolina, so we have rolling hills. The deeper wheels is actually pretty good for around here. My old bike, a 2013 SuperSix, had 50 mm deep wheels and I thought they were great.
I got Roval CL50 carbon wheels for my 2021 Diverge Comp Carbon. I live in Louisiana. We get typical cross winds but nothing that bad. This spring I have been out with wind gust over 20mph. The wind sucks but the wind isn't blowing me off the road. I definitely like them and they do look awesome lol.
All my bikes are aero. The System Six comes with a 64mm. I just bought a Pinarello Prince FX Di2 Ultegra with aero wheels. My Pasculli Mercatello is also aero. Here in Berlin,Germany it's flat! Aero suits me just fine.
what about aluminium wheels with deep rims? I can see they weigh more, like 2500 grams, but the ones I look at now are 60 mm rims and for 170 euro and made for Fixed gear with is what I ride.... but they will be heavier than keeping normal shallow rims of course... how much will the added 2500 grams disturb my riding, both the speed, and my endurance... or will the weight of deep rim wheel sets not matter much as their benefit to handle the wind better gives more efficiency to the whole riding experience than their added weight to the bike? I am pretty new to all these aero dynamic calculations... so please help me understand better if is worth for me to start with these deep rim wheels in aluminium , so please let me know if is worth to add the wheels of 170 euro to my fixed gear aluminium bike as it will add more weight if I choose the 60 mm rims! thanks for a fun and educational video!
Great video, I upgraded my stock wheels to Roval 38's and here in NorCal it made a huge difference for me. Question, are you doing your wheels a disservice by using cheaper tires? If I'm not training and it's more recreational should you upgrade your tires along with wheel set?
very nice!!! and yes I would put on some nioce tires!!! get some pirelli you wil notice a difference for sure I know they are epxensive but the results you get are so nice
I live in Adelaide South Australia and go on a mix of Coastal and Hills rides. The Light-Bicycle AR46 with DT 350 hubs has seved me well for around 10k kms now.
Thank you GC Perf. for making this video. I had already decided on 45mm but still was on the maybe fence for the past week. But after watching your Deep vs Shallow rim and Right depth Carbon Wheels, it helped me confirm my first choice.
Hi there. What do you think about 40mm/42mm wheels to keep a little bit of both worlds. For flat and climbs? You gave the answer at the end of the video. I made the question before I watched the video completely. Lol
lmao I am always down for a little mixing you just have to find a company who makes this configuration stock or then you might have to pay extar to get that setting
I felt like I was cheating when I first bought deep wheels. Still use aluminium wheels for climbing because carbon would explode on my 85kgs. For shallow rims top end aluminium wheels are better than low end carbon ones imo.
Carbon is heavier much more fragile and ride harsher then light weight aluminum rim..More aerodynamic for sure but a perfected position on the bike is more important not to mention the elevated pricing..The marketers love to black pill cyclists...
New subscriber. I’m really enjoying your videos. Question.... would a 50mm wheel set feel any different from a 38mm wheel ser in your opinion? I’ve been riding a pair of 38mm carbon wheels for about a year and they definitely are an upgrade from my stock aluminum wheels, but lately I’ve been considering getting deeper wheels. I live in Southern California and do a lot of climbing so I don’t want to compromise my rides by getting wheels that will hold me back, but deeper wheels would look cooler on my bike lol
What are good 1400g wheels. I think for that weight we are looking at 35mm depth to 40max. What about 1500g onces heard lot of good things of hunt 40-50. And also about bontrager pro 37v which are 1500g and bullet proof.
I have both of these wheels. 50mm Hunt on front can be tricky in windy conditions. Not had much experience of RSL37 in the wind. Hunt is cheaper c£800 and weigh 1487g instead of 1570g for the Carbon Bontrager.
Until bikes are back in stock here in Germany, I'll ride with this setup for now and then get a generic race bike like the Giant TCR Advanced and buy some 50 - 65 mm deep dish rims from a reputable manufacturer. I've been riding two entry-level bikes, an all-round gravel'ish bike (Trek Domane AL 2 Disc) as a commuter and a typical race bike (Merida Scultura 100) and the first upgrade I did was to mount 43 mm mid-depth rims together with the really outstanding Conti GP 5000 and that's how you turn a cheap entry-level road bike with Claris 8-speed into a fun machine. I also own an original 2001 Trek 5500 OCLV 120 USPS that weighs around 7.5 kg.... and the thing is amazing, was the bike that pushed me a little bit into the race bike direction.
Dude. Great videos. Thank you. I live in Ontario Canada and it’s most likely flat. I’m interested in the zipp 808’s but not sure if that’s overkill. I do intend climbing mountains but that would be once or twice a year when I travel. I have a 2018 Scott foil rim brake bike with their default wheels with ultegra 6800 components. I’d like to go the aero route. What do you think?
the zipp 808s have been kind of over kill for a while now unless ur doing tt with them, I would go for a 60 ro 65 depth..... maybe enves or zipps 404s, you get a lot of aerodynamics and if your doing climbing your going to hate thje 808s
What are the best wheels to put on the s works venge ? I really like the dept 50mm but i don’t think for my Everyday use will be good because I do a lot of climbings in my area… what do you think is the best ?
Thanks for the info on the wheels, not sure which ones I want yet. I live Maui we get insane winds almost everyday. This one road you have to take 50% of the time is a pure cross wind and I'm blown all over the place but I am aware of it and slow down and be ready. It's prob more my body, I'm 6'2 200 so there is a lot of area for the wind to hit. More worried about the price then the wind 😂🤙
@@GCPerformance18 right. Heard the same thing. Noticed the Bora and Quick-Step use them often when there’s a mostly hilly stages. Seems like an all around wheel tho.
Hmmm, come to SoCal and ride in the mtns with deep wheels....crosswinds is definitely a real issue, esp. when the Santa Ana's kick up. Keep in mind that riding deep wheels on pan flat terrain can be quite different compared to riding in undulating/exposed/hilly/canyons/mountainous terrain. Also, carbon wheels don't "hold speed" - my legs hold speed, but the wheels don't.
im running the clx65 on my venge, yes crosswinds makes it twitchy but if you are focus and careful (slow down), im sure its fine. i do climbs on this too (i dont have space and money to keep additional wheelset) hahahaha
anything for all of you :) and right now I dont have a bike. it was an aethos pro but then I sold it because someone wanted to buy it and right now we need ot sell every bike we got for the store until there is more inventory
The best gain for that money that can definitely translate to your bike performance and general health would be get stronger in the gym, work on your mobility, ride consistently. I bet you that 2k would be well invested in the long run but not for instant gratification with marginal gains. Remember, feel is very subjective to every individual. Weight will never matter to master athletes. Whats everyones take?
I have 80mm on my TT bike, I can’t ride the front in all conditions, I find the pushing from side winds horrible on the tri bars! 48mm Swiss side on road bike. That’s fine all the time
Omfg that's hilarious you spinning around circle with goggles made my day .I bought the Campagnolo 33 WTO compared to 45 to 33 don't see difference at all I probably should went 45 .awesome video
I ended up pulling the trigger on some Yoeleo carbon wheels. After doing quite a bit of research and asking questions to those that ride them. They are on par with the quality of carbon wheels from Hunt or CRC’s Prime brand (which I understand both are just rebranded Chinese rims anyway) and have a UCI certification which gave me some extra piece of mind in regards to safety. The wheels are 50mm and toroidal/u-shaped which I understand are much better than v-shaped in regards to crosswinds. At a featherweight 125lbs I can confirm the the 50mm have not been an issue when riding in 35mph crosswinds, as long as I’m focused and have my hands on the controls. A pair of Zipps or Enve’s may be marginally faster and more aerodynamic but with an added cost of an extra $1000 or so, and it’s not like I’m racing competitively.
I'm 130 lbs and I get wind bullied by cross headwinds while drafting on faster group rides. I'm getting some Hunt 35mm for my wheel upgrade. I'm curious what other lighter weight riders choose?
I like the Shallow especially in the Mountains with crosswinds. Deep dish not so good I’ve had riding in the White Mountains the crosswinds pushing front wheel.
Great video! Thank you for the spinning chair example. When I’m going to upgrade I’ll get the shallow ones, I live in California ( Central Valley, hilly and flats) and I have a tarmac expert blush.
There are a couple great videos of pros getting lifted off the road with strong crosswinds. Id say you should either go deep (at least 50) or VERY shallow. The mid just doesn’t do much of either (aero or weight)
yea in like what there tt bikes in the middle of strong wind storms that no one should be riding in but because they are in a race thewy have too.. for any consumer if it was that windy they would just go back inside and save it for another day
Hmm the demo works but I don't think it really makes sense. That spinning with your legs tucked is not really comparable to wheels because the rim radius stays relatively equal among all wheels. The whole smaller radius/faster spin thing has to do with the conservation of angular momentum, not acceleration... If wheel 'a' is the same mass as wheel 'b', regardless of their profile and disregarding aerodynamic drag, both wheels should accelerate at the same rate given the same amount of energy is driving both wheels. I think the whole thing about a shallow wheel being quicker to accelerate comes from the assumption that shallower wheels are generally lighter, but if you have a deep section wheelset that's as light as a shallow section rim, then there should be no difference in acceleration based off of pure power. Maybe you'll accelerate a thousandth fraction of a m/(s^2) more because the shallow wheel MIGHT produce less aerodynamic drag. For pro cyclists that have access to the lightest and strongest wheels in the world, making these choices is obvious because the shallow wheelsets will basically always be the lighter choice for them, while the aero ones will be more aero. For normal consumers, you can get a lightweight, aero, deep section wheel, that can outperform some other shallow wheel in any circumstance. There's also shallow wheels that might have better profiles than deep wheels too...
There is actually truth to the demonstration. You should watch the videos about rotational weights (and why they kinda don't matter). You put more energy into a heavier wheel which will then in turn conserve more kinetic energy. Assuming both wheels are aerodynamically identical, the wheel with more kinetic energy should spin for longer. While aerodynamics and especially braking in the real world negate these benefits most of the time, the demo is not entirely incorrect in assuming the heavier (due to deeper) rim will preserve more momentum.
I mean I think it does I have never been light but again I dont see it blowing you off the road unless your riding in a storm but normal winds you are fine
Just the video I needed! I want to make sure I understood correctly. 50mm are good all arounders or is 50 already considered deep? I'm currently using the Roval CL50s and, like you said, they're great on flats and helping maintain top end speed. But a lot of people are advising that I get shallower wheels for when we do hills reps. 30-40mm is their recommendation. Is that what you would recommend? Besides the Roval Alpinist, are there any other wheels you recommend in the 30-40mm range? Thanks for your help!
yea 50s are a pretty mid range wheel for sure, but if you want to go something more hybrid, go 40mm I owuld say maybe something like the reynolds assualt wheels or something around that depth
That's a good example but you are changing the diameter of the circle. Its like comparing a 20" wheel with a 29". Off course the 20"" will have a fast accelerating comparing with the 29" but with less top end.
I run LightBicycle 45mm from a 32Spoke Hope Gravel Wheelset. Although it's not night and day. Definately 1-2kmh faster just for the same effort which is huge.
Good content and hilarious! You're a real trooper! Question: For us heavier riders, what are your thoughts on the depth of the rim as far as strength goes? Deeper = stronger???
Cuz of you my tcr just turned into a sex machine. I also live in sofla and couldn’t decide on which size to get. Took your advice and found a pair of cl64’s from a’17 venge on offer up, and I’m amazed at the transformation. Tried to bring it to your shop for some pads and a new chain but you guys like most shops are short on supplies. Tried to thank you personally but you were off today. I’ll definitely be back. Thanks again!
ahhh man that sounds awesome!!! I wish I was therew and congrats on those wheels they for sure look amazing!!! I am usually off friday and Saturdays have fun man!!!!!!
Why didn’t you recommend the Princeton wheels? Won’t it be better than those roval ones? Very true that once you ride carbon wheelsets, u won’t go back to alloy.
@@GCPerformance18 yea it's ok. would be fun to see the Princeton wheelset often since it's an interesting shape rather than the traditional wheel shape.
@@GCPerformance18 Of course a shallower rim will be more efficient. But even in the pro peloton, it starts to change a little bit. Some climbers sometimes use 50mm deep wheels in the Alps during the Tour de France. To me, it's about the whole course that you intend to ride. If the goal is just to climb the mont Ventoux, you better ride shalower rims. But if there's a few climbs, descents and flat sections, a deep section wheel might be the good choice.
I havnt beeen on the tubelees hype mainly because I have to deal with everyones problems and bad times on them but maybe one day I will take the plunge
Princetons so you get the best of both worlds! Lol. By the way, I’ve gotten some wild crosswinds on the Rickenbacker that have almost sent me over the handlebars on the SL7 descending the bridge. I’ve had to ride cautiously on the way down instead of bombing the descent so I don’t bust my ass and die lol.
@@GCPerformance18 Bro. No joke. Caught like a 18 mph gust and I was going pretty close to 40 mph. Front wheel rapidly swung with the wind and I thought it was game over. Luckily, it was swerve, swerve, and keep on moving. I was more sad for the bike, if anything, than me lol.
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
Agree 1mph at least. But I think it is less the inertia thing you displayed and more aero drag. I think going at 45 Km/h maybe 10-15W less per wheel in aero drag. Add another 3W ea for tubeless and you are talking serious watts. I am a little guy with a 150W FTP so 30-35 W is alot. I run 50mm front-60mm rear on windy Cape Cod.
@@yonglingng5640 U shaped is better for control in cross winds. My go to brand is ICAN cycling. Had one set 25000 miles sold them, and bought another set for my Creo.
not really, depends if they are a ful one peice wheel, like hub spokle and rim made together..... but i dont think it makes sense because they are all tighten to the same spec
yea honestly there is no issue, just make sure you always pay attention while riding and be aware, if you know it s windy day just dont get to relaxed on the bike and be prepared for little bit of blowy day
Lol my man! Why so paranoid about showing your face?!? 😂😂😂. Real talk I just pulled the trigger on the winnspace HYPERS. You think that bare carbon look will look good on my red Aethos?
I owe to many people money lol....... but damn you got rid of your cl rapides for the winspace??? lemme know how that goes, those wheels are really nice the rapides, I have not seen the winspace in person yet so I dont know
I completely forgot. I remembered you had a red bike and I thought you had the red tarmac pro for some reason. In thag case he’ll yea that’s a sick build!!!! I love wheels on that bike
@@GCPerformance18 your video on the red Aethos convinced me to buy it. That stealth red is my first reason. Second was you saying the Expert build is best choice to upgrade components on. I'll rag you on IG once the new HYPERS get on. Conti GP5000 transparent tires or straight black???
I hope you all enjoyed the presentation. please if you have any questions lemme know down in the comment section!!!
I had 50mm carbon wheels and they were a nightmare in cross winds.. I'd go with something a little less.. 38mm
@@chriscross5689 Speed wobbles caused by strong crosswinds down long, fast descents are unnerving.
Check out my wobble on DT Swiss 1400 62s at 2:50:
th-cam.com/video/tHrjjsUcf5I/w-d-xo.html
@@chriscross5689 I have 50mm, never had issues with them. That is the highest I go tho.
Where are you guys located? I'm in Palm Beach County.
Would a 40 be good for gravel or should I go more shallow 🤔
Never seen a man with ski goggles spinning round explaining to me how different rim sizes effect cadence, but a first for everything! Top video
hahahhahah I am glad you enoyed it
The face mask covering spinning on the seat is the best ! Needs to be on a shirt with Boom bada beep bop 🤣~GC Performance
hahahhaha I would for that to happen, i sacrificed my body for the name of science
I am physically a mountain rider. My weakness is the flat surface, which is why I opted for the 50mm Syncros Capital 1.0 disc wheels for my Scott Addict RC. And it feels so much better to drive in the area. And since there were aluminum wheels before, it now feels much stiffer and more aggressive in the mountains with the carbon wheels. I love it.
Thanks for sharing!
You are to funny, this video was great, the demonstration was great, the face covering was the best. Way to educate & make us laugh at the same time 👍🏼 Keep keeping it real, and being you... it works for us!
lmao I had a blast making this video and I am glad you enjoyed it
In general, aero is always more important than weight, despite the single use case where you climb up a hill and stop right at the top. As soon as you go back down the aero advantage will make up for the slight weight penalty.
For the cross-wind topic:it comes down much more to the shape of the dish than the depth. If you are riding a modern designed shape it is as efficient in cross-winds for 65mm as for older 35mms...
thanks so much for the info and I agree for sure about the aero and weight situation I feel it al the time while riding
@@GCPerformance18 why do people say this. I’m 6ft2” and 260lbs try riding into a headwind up a hill. Weight and aero counts. It’s the weight that slows you down the most.I’m a aero fan. Madone SLR9 on aelous6 wheels. Would I be fast up that hill with more aero wheels? No. Lol. I lose races on hills not on the flat. Weight is always my nemesis.
@@OFFSHOREDOUG That's just not true. This has been studied. Aero trumps weight at light to moderate inclines(up to something like 6-7%) even at lower speeds like 15km/h, which... idk... maybe that is 250w?
That you weigh 260 just means you have more weight fighting against you. It does not mean that weight itself becomes more important as a factor
If you fix the speed then 100grams weight is equal to about 1 watt difference. The effect of weight through gravity is actually linear. However! if you are lighter then you will at the same wattage go faster for the same watts, so actually it can in that sense become more important for a lighter rider(if strong enough) to focus a bit more on improving aero on the hills compared to weight.
The sacrifices made to educate the public... 😆😆😆😆🙌🏽🍻
hahaha the endurance my body went through for the name of science
@@GCPerformance18 😆😆😆🍻
Does your mate elgin approved of these bad boys wheels? He still in the old school mindset era mate.
@@PhiyackYuh 😆🤷🏽♂️
I have almost a dozen wheelsets of varying sizes.
I often run my goto wheelset of dura ace c50s, but will find them on a fast downhill, especially on foothill/mountain roads the ever changing wind direction do make it challenging, especially at 35 mph decents. I’ve never lost control but have had a shot of adrenaline when a gust put me in a different lane or messed up an apex on a turn.
That said I have some Carbon 24s and they just feel light but slow.
My favorites are that 35-45 size, which is a good compromise. If you live in a flat area you may be able to get away larger as a primary wheelset.
yea no lie my go to wheelsset for me down here was the roval clx 64, I didnt have any problems with wind but also I am a heavier rider wwho is 200lbs
I got some dt swiss wheels in 62mm. Was worried about crosswinds at first but it is exactly as you‘re saying. Modern rim shapes are very good at dealing with crosswinds and the difference to a regular 20-30mm shallow rim isn‘t very noticeable. If a crosswind hits you in a nasty way you‘ll have to concentrate and correct anyway
agreed for sure
In fact I found it is easier to handle crosswind with my 45mm wheels than the stock DT R470db.
I'll be snagging the 65's next. Living in Utah, all the best routes have at least 3000 feet of climbing. 45's for now, they still look and sound sick!
the 45s sounds like such anice wheel set and they must be such a great all around wheel set congrats on them
That’s hilarious! I’ve never seen anyone run out breath sitting down. Keep up the good work
hahahhahaha
Excellent video ! Thank you for helping me with my decision for future wheels !
Great to hear!
The deepest wheels I had were 55. They were great but like you, living near the beach we'd get some pretty strong crosswinds. I was never really scared of being blown off my bike but a deeper dish wheel became less efficient in the crosswind because you have to make constant micro-adjustments for the wind taking you off your line a bit. Normally on windier days I'd go to a 32. I ended finding I could still maintain my speed whilst cutting the weight. Now I ride anything from a 37 to 45 and seems like it makes the best all-around wheel. Something like the Zipp 303 or 404 and the Enve 4.5 give you the best of both worlds while still looking great. Wheels are the best upgrade to feel an immediate impact on your riding and the best investment to put into your bike as you can take them and use them on your next bike too.
I agree 100 percent the best upgrade u can do for sure
I just got my first set of CF wheels for my Cannondale SuperSixEvo - I ended up getting Vision Metron 40’s and I gota say I’m loving them. I can definitely feel them more in the crosswinds (as compared to my super basic, shallow, aluminum wheel) , and as a relatively new rider with still new rider bike handling skills I’m glad I didn’t get 50’s or 60’s. Eventually, as I get more experienced I’ll likely get deeper wheels but for now my Metron 40’s are sweeeeet
hey as long as you are happy and they do the job you are going to just get better with them and understand how they work and get the most out fo the wheels in the future
I’m on Aeolus 6 which can get caught in gusts above 30mph but great otherwise. I’m 260lbs which obviously might make it easier for me. Only reason I would get shallower would be for racing which I don’t do.
Just wondering how the wheels are holding after 2 years of use? I'm about to pull the trigger on the same wheels 40sl, but used one
I still think your Ray Romano, great demo but I've gotta lot a hills my way so I went for 35s, once you ride carbon the difference is night & day, keep the vids comin love em
hahhahahhahahhahaah bro im dead... fuck I hate my voice
ima hit you with a ray romano impression one of these videos jsut for oyu
@@GCPerformance18 dw I sound like David Beckham
I went with Hunt 50 Carbon Aero. Love them.
I keep hearing about them I want to get some rides on them and get my hands on them for a while they look like nice wheels
@@GCPerformance18 I probably have about 7 rides on them now. They roll pretty good. I was around 17 mph regularly pedaling with the aluminum Fulcrums that came on my Prince. But with these Hunts I’m at 19/20 mph and the sound of the ratchet is obnoxious!! And I love it!
I have the Hunt 4050s. GC is right that getting carbon wheels is the best upgrade you can do to your road bike. I too have increased my avg speed by 2mph compared to the aluminum wheels. The 4050s have improved my ability to maintain my top end speed.
Glad to hear! Mines are on the way 50 also. This video helped me out a lot. Idk though maybe I should’ve gone 45/50 😬
....’I have no core I’m out of breath...’ love it, great demonstration ...
hahahhahah
Great video! You nailed it this time. I just ordered Aeolus Pro 5 TLR for my Canyon Ultimate. This video validates my choice. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful! and thank you
A few months ago, I purchased some 60mm deep wheels. I was looking for 40 to 50 mm. I really like the wheels and they are light for their depth. I just think they look kind of weird on a climbing bike which is a 2018 Cannondale SuperSix High Mod. I got them because I thought they were cool and my big brother talked me into it some as well. He thinks they look cool and I think they look weird. I think they would look better on an aero bike. My bike came with shallow climbing wheels. I do live in central N. Carolina, so we have rolling hills. The deeper wheels is actually pretty good for around here. My old bike, a 2013 SuperSix, had 50 mm deep wheels and I thought they were great.
Sounds like you need a Systemsix to put the wheels on !
bought my first set of carbon wheels zipp 404 after watching youre content dude and never looked backed......youre the man GC ;)
hahahahha thanks so much!!!! and I am glad youa re liking those zipps they are such nice wheels, good choice
Just ordered son zipp 404 firecrest cant wait
Agree. Have been on 45s for sometime. They ride great but the looks of deeper wheels are much nicer
45s are a perfect wheel for sure, they are so nice and they are right in between of everything
I got Roval CL50 carbon wheels for my 2021 Diverge Comp Carbon. I live in Louisiana. We get typical cross winds but nothing that bad. This spring I have been out with wind gust over 20mph. The wind sucks but the wind isn't blowing me off the road. I definitely like them and they do look awesome lol.
hellll eya I love ot hear that... people always get os scared about crosswinds but its not that bad and its not every single ride
I recommend Prime wheels from Wiggle. They are cheap, under $1000 for a carbon wheelset, with novatech hubs and DT Aerolite spokes.
lemme take a look and thanks for the wheel recommendation
@@GCPerformance18 no problem.
All my bikes are aero. The System Six comes with a 64mm. I just bought a Pinarello Prince FX Di2 Ultegra with aero wheels. My Pasculli Mercatello is also aero. Here in Berlin,Germany it's flat! Aero suits me just fine.
hell yea thats what I like tooo heare those aero wheels are amaizng!!!
what about aluminium wheels with deep rims? I can see they weigh more, like 2500 grams, but the ones I look at now are 60 mm rims and for 170 euro and made for Fixed gear with is what I ride.... but they will be heavier than keeping normal shallow rims of course... how much will the added 2500 grams disturb my riding, both the speed, and my endurance... or will the weight of deep rim wheel sets not matter much as their benefit to handle the wind better gives more efficiency to the whole riding experience than their added weight to the bike? I am pretty new to all these aero dynamic calculations... so please help me understand better if is worth for me to start with these deep rim wheels in aluminium , so please let me know if is worth to add the wheels of 170 euro to my fixed gear aluminium bike as it will add more weight if I choose the 60 mm rims! thanks for a fun and educational video!
Great video, I upgraded my stock wheels to Roval 38's and here in NorCal it made a huge difference for me. Question, are you doing your wheels a disservice by using cheaper tires? If I'm not training and it's more recreational should you upgrade your tires along with wheel set?
very nice!!! and yes I would put on some nioce tires!!! get some pirelli you wil notice a difference for sure I know they are epxensive but the results you get are so nice
Tires are one of best bang for buck upgrades you can make
The ENVE 65's are amazing wheels. I live in Orlando, so mostly flats but I rocked them at 6 gap with no issues as well! They sound awesome as well.
Yes they are!
I live in Adelaide South Australia and go on a mix of Coastal and Hills rides. The Light-Bicycle AR46 with DT 350 hubs has seved me well for around 10k kms now.
very nice!!! sounds like a nice bike!!
This might be your best video yet GC!
The wheel depth demonstration was 2nd to none!! 🤣🤣
lmao I am glad you liked it and i hope to make more videos like this for you in the future
Thanks for your help with my decision making. I'll be going with the shallow rim. (45mm)
awesome you are going to love your wheel set and notice the difference right away
Thank you GC Perf. for making this video. I had already decided on 45mm but still was on the maybe fence for the past week. But after watching your Deep vs Shallow rim and Right depth Carbon Wheels, it helped me confirm my first choice.
Hi there. What do you think about 40mm/42mm wheels to keep a little bit of both worlds. For flat and climbs? You gave the answer at the end of the video. I made the question before I watched the video completely. Lol
lmao I am always down for a little mixing you just have to find a company who makes this configuration stock or then you might have to pay extar to get that setting
I felt like I was cheating when I first bought deep wheels.
Still use aluminium wheels for climbing because carbon would explode on my 85kgs.
For shallow rims top end aluminium wheels are better than low end carbon ones imo.
ye athey are crazy and they make the biggest difference for sure
85kg aint heavy at all for carbon wheels most are rated at up to 100kg
Carbon is heavier much more fragile and ride harsher then light weight aluminum rim..More aerodynamic for sure but a perfected position on the bike is more important not to mention the elevated pricing..The marketers love to black pill cyclists...
Sioux Falls? Where? I get up your way once in a while. Great vid, riding Zipps and they’re 65mm for a few years. I enjoy them.
im in deerfield beach and thank you so much for the suportvsdfhuighjvfkshjkgdjks
New subscriber. I’m really enjoying your videos. Question.... would a 50mm wheel set feel any different from a 38mm wheel ser in your opinion? I’ve been riding a pair of 38mm carbon wheels for about a year and they definitely are an upgrade from my stock aluminum wheels, but lately I’ve been considering getting deeper wheels. I live in Southern California and do a lot of climbing so I don’t want to compromise my rides by getting wheels that will hold me back, but deeper wheels would look cooler on my bike lol
thank you so much I would stay 38 if you have hills, it wil give you the added performance for climbing uphill
@@GCPerformance18 gotcha. Thanks!
What are good 1400g wheels. I think for that weight we are looking at 35mm depth to 40max.
What about 1500g onces heard lot of good things of hunt 40-50. And also about bontrager pro 37v which are 1500g and bullet proof.
I have both of these wheels. 50mm Hunt on front can be tricky in windy conditions. Not had much experience of RSL37 in the wind. Hunt is cheaper c£800 and weigh 1487g instead of 1570g for the Carbon Bontrager.
the cl alpinist wheels are really good wheels of rth emoney and lighter then that the only downside is they are not tubeless ready
Until bikes are back in stock here in Germany, I'll ride with this setup for now and then get a generic race bike like the Giant TCR Advanced and buy some 50 - 65 mm deep dish rims from a reputable manufacturer.
I've been riding two entry-level bikes, an all-round gravel'ish bike (Trek Domane AL 2 Disc) as a commuter and a typical race bike (Merida Scultura 100) and the first upgrade I did was to mount 43 mm mid-depth rims together with the really outstanding Conti GP 5000 and that's how you turn a cheap entry-level road bike with Claris 8-speed into a fun machine. I also own an original 2001 Trek 5500 OCLV 120 USPS that weighs around 7.5 kg.... and the thing is amazing, was the bike that pushed me a little bit into the race bike direction.
Recently choose 40s on my Scott Addict RC with Chris King Hubs, installed this Friday, cant wait
damn that is always a nice combo on there
Dude. Great videos. Thank you. I live in Ontario Canada and it’s most likely flat. I’m interested in the zipp 808’s but not sure if that’s overkill. I do intend climbing mountains but that would be once or twice a year when I travel.
I have a 2018 Scott foil rim brake bike with their default wheels with ultegra 6800 components. I’d like to go the aero route. What do you think?
the zipp 808s have been kind of over kill for a while now unless ur doing tt with them, I would go for a 60 ro 65 depth..... maybe enves or zipps 404s, you get a lot of aerodynamics and if your doing climbing your going to hate thje 808s
@@GCPerformance18 thanks a lot dude. Keep pushing out the great knowledge and content. I’ll look into those two wheels too
Best rim depth demonstration
lol I risk my body for these experiments
What are the best wheels to put on the s works venge ? I really like the dept 50mm but i don’t think for my Everyday use will be good because I do a lot of climbings in my area… what do you think is the best ?
Thanks for the info on the wheels, not sure which ones I want yet. I live Maui we get insane winds almost everyday. This one road you have to take 50% of the time is a pure cross wind and I'm blown all over the place but I am aware of it and slow down and be ready. It's prob more my body, I'm 6'2 200 so there is a lot of area for the wind to hit. More worried about the price then the wind 😂🤙
go the alpinist or clx 50s or even zipp 404 wheels those are perfect in between wheel sets that you will stil feel a difference for thme
@@GCPerformance18 🤙🏼
Sticking to my 50mm (CL50) for both flat and hills for now but I want to try the alpinist set eventually.
the alpinist are nice wheels very light and easy t roll
@@GCPerformance18 right. Heard the same thing. Noticed the Bora and Quick-Step use them often when there’s a mostly hilly stages. Seems like an all around wheel tho.
I have a 65mm pair, my next wheelset is going to be a 50-55 again, 65 is a nightmare in Belgian crosswinds and i'm not a lightweigt rider.
very nice!!!!
Hmmm, come to SoCal and ride in the mtns with deep wheels....crosswinds is definitely a real issue, esp. when the Santa Ana's kick up. Keep in mind that riding deep wheels on pan flat terrain can be quite different compared to riding in undulating/exposed/hilly/canyons/mountainous terrain. Also, carbon wheels don't "hold speed" - my legs hold speed, but the wheels don't.
Thanks for the tips!
I bought Hunt x-wide carbon gravel wheels for my Warbird. Great upgrade.
veyr nicue wheel set, I hope you enjoy!!!
im running the clx65 on my venge, yes crosswinds makes it twitchy but if you are focus and careful (slow down), im sure its fine. i do climbs on this too (i dont have space and money to keep additional wheelset) hahahaha
exactly!!! I am glad to se someone climbing with deep dish wheels lol thats awesome man
Making yourself queezy for viewer benefit. Much appreciated.
Maybe show us your bike and why you chose those components..... or maybe you already have
anything for all of you :) and right now I dont have a bike. it was an aethos pro but then I sold it because someone wanted to buy it and right now we need ot sell every bike we got for the store until there is more inventory
The best gain for that money that can definitely translate to your bike performance and general health would be get stronger in the gym, work on your mobility, ride consistently. I bet you that 2k would be well invested in the long run but not for instant gratification with marginal gains. Remember, feel is very subjective to every individual. Weight will never matter to master athletes. Whats everyones take?
those wheels make a difference right away
I have 80mm on my TT bike, I can’t ride the front in all conditions, I find the pushing from side winds horrible on the tri bars! 48mm Swiss side on road bike. That’s fine all the time
yea I mean thats another story being in the aero position you odnt have any control with crosswinds and also 80mm
Riding with a set of FFWD F4’s carbon clinchers. 45 mm is the sweet spot IMO.
very buice!!
Great video! Question! Carbon wheels with rim brake. Yes or not? My old Roubaix with rim brakes could use an upgrade from aluminum to carbon. Thanks
hell yea I rode carbon wheels with rim brakes for th elongest time before discs. they work great and smae benefit!!!
Thumbs up for the demonstration 😂
hahahha I had fun with this video lol
Omfg that's hilarious you spinning around circle with goggles made my day .I bought the Campagnolo 33 WTO compared to 45 to 33 don't see difference at all I probably should went 45 .awesome video
Thanks so much!!! I appreciate it a lot :)
Actually the best upgrades are clothing, handlebar, tyres and helmet if we're talking gear(excluding optimal gear derived from Bikefit)
This was really helpful and exactly what I needed. Thanks!
thanks so much I am glad you enjoyed it
I ended up pulling the trigger on some Yoeleo carbon wheels. After doing quite a bit of research and asking questions to those that ride them. They are on par with the quality of carbon wheels from Hunt or CRC’s Prime brand (which I understand both are just rebranded Chinese rims anyway) and have a UCI certification which gave me some extra piece of mind in regards to safety. The wheels are 50mm and toroidal/u-shaped which I understand are much better than v-shaped in regards to crosswinds. At a featherweight 125lbs I can confirm the the 50mm have not been an issue when riding in 35mph crosswinds, as long as I’m focused and have my hands on the controls. A pair of Zipps or Enve’s may be marginally faster and more aerodynamic but with an added cost of an extra $1000 or so, and it’s not like I’m racing competitively.
You're the best red-haired, bearded bike commentator in the universe!!!
hahahahha Thank my friend!!
Props on the spinning. Thanks for doing and sharing that. I know I'd be sick after the first few spins
lmao I am glad you enjoyed the video
I'm 130 lbs and I get wind bullied by cross headwinds while drafting on faster group rides. I'm getting some Hunt 35mm for my wheel upgrade. I'm curious what other lighter weight riders choose?
that should be fine, there wouldnt be any worries there, just make sure if it is a windy day you are concentrated on the road
I’m a die hard MTBer. No interest in road riding yet I love your videos. I’m hearing an announcement is coming from Specialized tomorrow 😉
:)))) keep an eye out soon, and I appreciate so much the support and I am glad you enjoy the videos
I like the Shallow especially in the Mountains with crosswinds. Deep dish not so good I’ve had riding in the White Mountains the crosswinds pushing front wheel.
yea I know the wheels are perfect for the mountains!!
Thanks for the great info i just got a set of hunt limitless 48 because im in florida💪👍
I love hunts even though I have neevr seen a set in person but they look like nice wheels
@@GCPerformance18 i will post some pics once i put them on once again thank you
Great video! Thank you for the spinning chair example.
When I’m going to upgrade I’ll get the shallow ones, I live in California ( Central Valley, hilly and flats) and I have a tarmac expert blush.
hell yea i always thought 40s are the max for the valley the new alpinsit whels the 33mm are great wheels for over there
There are a couple great videos of pros getting lifted off the road with strong crosswinds. Id say you should either go deep (at least 50) or VERY shallow. The mid just doesn’t do much of either (aero or weight)
yea in like what there tt bikes in the middle of strong wind storms that no one should be riding in but because they are in a race thewy have too.. for any consumer if it was that windy they would just go back inside and save it for another day
Friggin hilarious!!! Great video as usual!
Thanks again! I hope you enjoyed it
I went from a normal alloy wheels to carbon wheelset front 42mm and back 60mm.
Do u think its a good choice for aero and speed gain?
yea that is an amazing set up very nice and I hope you enjoy
zipp 808 firecrest tubeless disc wheels for me, loving them. Hardly notice the cross winds any more.
Hmm the demo works but I don't think it really makes sense. That spinning with your legs tucked is not really comparable to wheels because the rim radius stays relatively equal among all wheels. The whole smaller radius/faster spin thing has to do with the conservation of angular momentum, not acceleration...
If wheel 'a' is the same mass as wheel 'b', regardless of their profile and disregarding aerodynamic drag, both wheels should accelerate at the same rate given the same amount of energy is driving both wheels.
I think the whole thing about a shallow wheel being quicker to accelerate comes from the assumption that shallower wheels are generally lighter, but if you have a deep section wheelset that's as light as a shallow section rim, then there should be no difference in acceleration based off of pure power. Maybe you'll accelerate a thousandth fraction of a m/(s^2) more because the shallow wheel MIGHT produce less aerodynamic drag.
For pro cyclists that have access to the lightest and strongest wheels in the world, making these choices is obvious because the shallow wheelsets will basically always be the lighter choice for them, while the aero ones will be more aero. For normal consumers, you can get a lightweight, aero, deep section wheel, that can outperform some other shallow wheel in any circumstance. There's also shallow wheels that might have better profiles than deep wheels too...
There is actually truth to the demonstration. You should watch the videos about rotational weights (and why they kinda don't matter). You put more energy into a heavier wheel which will then in turn conserve more kinetic energy. Assuming both wheels are aerodynamically identical, the wheel with more kinetic energy should spin for longer.
While aerodynamics and especially braking in the real world negate these benefits most of the time, the demo is not entirely incorrect in assuming the heavier (due to deeper) rim will preserve more momentum.
does the crosswind/deep dish wheels advice apply to lighter riders? e.g. 50kg or 60kg? thanks for making videos.
I mean I think it does I have never been light but again I dont see it blowing you off the road unless your riding in a storm but normal winds you are fine
Great video mate and loved the practical demonstration.
Glad you enjoyed it, I will put my body through the pain for your enjoyment loool
Just the video I needed! I want to make sure I understood correctly. 50mm are good all arounders or is 50 already considered deep? I'm currently using the Roval CL50s and, like you said, they're great on flats and helping maintain top end speed. But a lot of people are advising that I get shallower wheels for when we do hills reps. 30-40mm is their recommendation. Is that what you would recommend? Besides the Roval Alpinist, are there any other wheels you recommend in the 30-40mm range? Thanks for your help!
yea 50s are a pretty mid range wheel for sure, but if you want to go something more hybrid, go 40mm I owuld say maybe something like the reynolds assualt wheels or something around that depth
DEEP BECAUSE IT LOOKS COOL
deep always looks good, for where I am I will always choose deep dish wheels no matter the wieigth sacxrafice
Haha I just watch your vid, bro you got to hit some hills lol you got winded just holding up your legs hahaha
lmfao been mad lazy lately cant gewt any rides cause we are so busy at work lol
That's a good example but you are changing the diameter of the circle. Its like comparing a 20" wheel with a 29". Off course the 20"" will have a fast accelerating comparing with the 29" but with less top end.
very good point!!!! and yea same applies to that too
I run LightBicycle 45mm from a 32Spoke Hope Gravel Wheelset. Although it's not night and day. Definately 1-2kmh faster just for the same effort which is huge.
yea they make a big difference for sure!!!
Good content and hilarious! You're a real trooper!
Question: For us heavier riders, what are your thoughts on the depth of the rim as far as strength goes? Deeper = stronger???
thats what I am thinking, the deeper the dish and shorter the spoke length will make it nice and sound
Always spot on and informative! Thanks for your analysis.
Glad you think so!
Hey GC! I am 57kg, you think 65mm gonna be a problem for me with the crosswinds?
should not be at all, as loing as it is not like tropical stomr force wind you are good
@@GCPerformance18 Thanks man! ill consider going deep then
Cuz of you my tcr just turned into a sex machine. I also live in sofla and couldn’t decide on which size to get. Took your advice and found a pair of cl64’s from a’17 venge on offer up, and I’m amazed at the transformation. Tried to bring it to your shop for some pads and a new chain but you guys like most shops are short on supplies. Tried to thank you personally but you were off today. I’ll definitely be back. Thanks again!
ahhh man that sounds awesome!!! I wish I was therew and congrats on those wheels they for sure look amazing!!! I am usually off friday and Saturdays have fun man!!!!!!
Love whayching GC preformance at 00:17 In the morning
hahahhaha thanks so much!!!
Great video, loved the demo!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Acceleration benefit is negligible for crits. It's in the decimals and it is nullified by the extra momentum of a heavier wheel.
very nice to know!!
Why didn’t you recommend the Princeton wheels? Won’t it be better than those roval ones?
Very true that once you ride carbon wheelsets, u won’t go back to alloy.
not focusing on the brands of wheels just the depths lol I odnt know maybe I forgot
@@GCPerformance18 yea it's ok. would be fun to see the Princeton wheelset often since it's an interesting shape rather than the traditional wheel shape.
Liked for the goggles spin :)
hahahah thanks so much, I forgot I did this until someone comments on it every so often
The Stig is back!! 👍
lmfao!!!!!!!!!
I ride my 62mm wheels even in the mountains, my bike looks perfect with those deep rims and I'm not a climber anyway...
yea for sure there is no reason why you can not ride deep dish wheels in th emountians but it would be more efficent with a shallower rim
@@GCPerformance18 Of course a shallower rim will be more efficient.
But even in the pro peloton, it starts to change a little bit. Some climbers sometimes use 50mm deep wheels in the Alps during the Tour de France. To me, it's about the whole course that you intend to ride. If the goal is just to climb the mont Ventoux, you better ride shalower rims. But if there's a few climbs, descents and flat sections, a deep section wheel might be the good choice.
Just got a pair of Campagnolo Bora WTO 60s. I am a fan of tubeless now.
I havnt beeen on the tubelees hype mainly because I have to deal with everyones problems and bad times on them but maybe one day I will take the plunge
Hi. What s your take on a 50mm rear/38 front combo?.thanks
I like it alot, I always liked a staggered wheel set becaus eof the looks but also the performance gains u get as well is nice,
Princetons so you get the best of both worlds! Lol. By the way, I’ve gotten some wild crosswinds on the Rickenbacker that have almost sent me over the handlebars on the SL7 descending the bridge. I’ve had to ride cautiously on the way down instead of bombing the descent so I don’t bust my ass and die lol.
really? I mean yea that could be the expection with it being so out in the open right there but I mean it should be pretty easy to ride on
@@GCPerformance18 Bro. No joke. Caught like a 18 mph gust and I was going pretty close to 40 mph. Front wheel rapidly swung with the wind and I thought it was game over. Luckily, it was swerve, swerve, and keep on moving. I was more sad for the bike, if anything, than me lol.
That was awesome....thanks for the info and the good laugh.
Glad you enjoyed it
This bike was really easy to assemble th-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
This channel is 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks so much!!!! I am gla du enjoyed
jeesus christ man that rotation you did impressed me. next time, just use figure skating moves for an inllustration maybe
Hahaha I am happy you enjoy the demonstration
Agree 1mph at least. But I think it is less the inertia thing you displayed and more aero drag. I think going at 45 Km/h maybe 10-15W less per wheel in aero drag. Add another 3W ea for tubeless and you are talking serious watts. I am a little guy with a 150W FTP so 30-35 W is alot. I run 50mm front-60mm rear on windy Cape Cod.
Is your front rim's cross-section U-shaped? What brand is the wheelset?
thanks so much!!!
@@yonglingng5640 U shaped is better for control in cross winds. My go to brand is ICAN cycling. Had one set 25000 miles sold them, and bought another set for my Creo.
Good one. Looking at the shop filled with cycles. I wish I could come and pick up, super shortage in India ...:(
lmao thank you so much come on by one day
Hey, well done your video ... by now everyone should understand, following your example. Thank you
Hey, do carbon spokes mean much to stiffness on the bike?
not really, depends if they are a ful one peice wheel, like hub spokle and rim made together..... but i dont think it makes sense because they are all tighten to the same spec
I have Bora Ultras tubular 50 mm....1200 g...killer wheels...great vid.and good info.
Good choice!
Hey GC, are 55 or 65 mm wheels okey for a person like me who wheighs 140 pounds?
yea honestly there is no issue, just make sure you always pay attention while riding and be aware, if you know it s windy day just dont get to relaxed on the bike and be prepared for little bit of blowy day
Lol my man! Why so paranoid about showing your face?!? 😂😂😂. Real talk I just pulled the trigger on the winnspace HYPERS. You think that bare carbon look will look good on my red Aethos?
I owe to many people money lol....... but damn you got rid of your cl rapides for the winspace??? lemme know how that goes, those wheels are really nice the rapides, I have not seen the winspace in person yet so I dont know
@@GCPerformance18 broh you should know the red Aethos has the R470s.
I completely forgot. I remembered you had a red bike and I thought you had the red tarmac pro for some reason. In thag case he’ll yea that’s a sick build!!!! I love wheels on that bike
@@GCPerformance18 your video on the red Aethos convinced me to buy it. That stealth red is my first reason. Second was you saying the Expert build is best choice to upgrade components on. I'll rag you on IG once the new HYPERS get on. Conti GP5000 transparent tires or straight black???