I’m a product advisor for Subaru and use your videos to push my customers over the edge as to why they should own a Subaru! Thank you Ryan for being such an amazing ambassador for Subaru in all your videos, makes me proud to represent such an amazing brand!!
You should tell them to build proper recovery points into their Wilderness models instead of relying on the I-bolts. As more people listen to the marketing hype and push these things to the edge more will get stuck. Subaru needs to give them a safe and convenient way to get out.
By far the best vehicle review channel on TH-cam.It’s like having a friend you trust reviewing vehicles.Would love to see a Subaru trail test with a stock car then with better tires which lots of people upgrade.
I have to say I have a 23 OB Wilderness and this channel is the main reason i got one, I done all my homework for a while when i was looking but my main selling thought were because of Ryan. such fantastic car reviews and testing over the years with huge amounts of knowledge and unlike others he actually takes the vehicles off-road and pushes them. The 23 model has had the new interface upgrade from the new OB line and its a better layout with things like seat warmer and Hvac on the main screen without having to go through many menus. Ive not had a chance to take mine into the mountains yet but i cant wait to see what this can do. And Ryan if you are ever up north of the border near Vancouver come say hello id love to take you out in mine :)
I feel that Subaru should sponsor this channel. Ryan does a great job demonstrating how capable the Subaru actually is, as opposed to another pretty popular review channel whom Subaru has black listed. I'm glad to see that Subaru is building some capable vehicles, seemed a few years they were quite lacking. Kind of reminds me of the old 80's 4WD Subarus again in their capability....great work Subaru.
I'm torn between the wildernesses and other BOF SUVs. At the end of the day, do I need all the extreme off-road capabilities for driving mostly what Ryan has been doing in his videos, which Subarus are more than capable doing.
@@jwuhome I've had 2 Jeep Grand Cherokees, 1st gen 96 and a 98, both of them were unibody. You don't need a body on frame SUV to go offroad, contrary to what all the TH-cam armchair quarterbacks pretend....Just look at all the regular XJ Jeep Cherokees that are heavily modified for offroad use, yes those are unibody as well. Wranglers, 4Runners, all those body on frame SUV's are just way over-hyped, and honestly ain't that great at doing anything in a practical sense...they're heavy, they're cumbersome, and they're not very well power to weight balanced. The only Wrangler that is pretty proportional would be a base model 2 door, which really is the only one that belongs on the narrow and tight offroad trails, the 4 door higher end models are too cumbersome for actual trail use due to their size and added weight, it really effects their breakover angles mostly....both my Grand Cherokees saw quite a few mud holes, backroads, ATV/UTV trails, etc. and never had any problems with either of them aside from the regular oil/filter changes, a battery and serpentine belt, as well as several sets of tires over the years. I was quite surprised with them considering they had what everyone has claimed to be the worst transmissions the 42RE...then again I had them serviced every 45,000 miles, and had auxiliary external transmission coolers on both,. The newer Grand Cherokees are quite capable as well. I haven't gotten to try out a new(er) Subaru, but given what Ryan has done in his videos they'd be more than capable with the right set of tires for your usage.
@@yodowilderness So almost a year with it, how'd it doing for you? Have you kept track of fuel economy? For most of my needs the Subaru Outback or Forester would do fine...been tossing around the Subaru or a Ford Maverick, but still not liking the small turbo 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder engine idea for long term ownership....and the Subaru can still be had with a regular 4 cylinder.
Suggestion to you, Ryan: I’m pretty sure both Wilderness models (Outback and Forester) are cross-shopped by many. How about a side-by-side comparison to help out potential owners to make a proper decision?
I have a Forester Wilderness in this Geyser Blue with all the options added and I Love it! My wife was driving home just after a major winter storm and called me while driving to brag about how great the car was handling the conditions. She was like I'm passing cars and not even worried which I must admit worried me but she got home safe and sound!
I just want to comment and say how much I appreciate all of the Subaru Wilderness model videos you've done. I've watched every single one of them from beginning to end (both Forester and OB).. You are providing hugely valuable content that isn't available anywhere else. Subaru owes you a pat on the back.. Phenomenal products, even better content!
I continue to be impressed with the drivelines of these Wilderness models, and how well they seem to resist overheating in tough conditions like this....very nice!
Ryan, you know me mainly as a critic and anti-Subaru follower, but I must give you credit. Your video is fantastic and even I, who despises Subaru, may actually sit in this wagon when it comes to the Auto Show near me. Cheers to 2023 sir.
The change of the final drive ratio makes a substantial difference. Mid and low range punch is more aggressive and responsive especially considering CVT's tend to struggle with initial take-off and acceleration.
I'm really glad you ran this test with a completely stock vehicle and tires. I'm sure the enthusiasts will have lots of suggestions, but for us everyday drivers, the stock performance is what we want to know about. I always ran winter tires on my three previous Forester's, but since the OBW Yokohama tires have the three peak symbol, I've just left them on. My impression - with standard air pressure in the tires - is that the Geolanders are adequate, but noticeably more slippery when trying to stop at an icy intersection. Sometimes stopping distance is more important than forward traction!
@@immachine1565 that’s why I will stay with the older 2016-2019 models, I can replace that stupid touchscreen with an aftermarket stereo and not worry about a failing blanking out POS that costs thousands of dollars to replace
I just recently picked up my ‘23 Outback Wilderness last Friday and am enjoying it out here in Colorado. These reviews by you helped me tremendously in my decision to purchase one and couldn’t be more happier. Thank you and always look forward to all of your content!
Hi Ryan, I’m a retired tire company executive with most of my experience in off-road tires such as Mickey Thompson, Cooper and Mastercraft. At around 14:15 you mention an increased potential for puncturing an aired down tire due to higher risk to sidewall exposure. This is incorrect. We conducted many controlled tests on several brands and these showed that because at lower pressures, the additional sidewall flexibility allowed the sidewall to deflect around rocks and stakes more readily thus reducing the risk of staking a sidewall. Our tests showed that the risk of sidewall damage in Offroad conditions with a tire at 18psi vs 35psi was up to 25 times LESS chance of staking either sidewall or even through the tread. Of course this also is aided by the lower speeds one usually drives in Offroad situations. Thanks for your excellent videos. John
You just make me smile every time you do something with the Outback Wilderness. This is going to be my next buy. I'm definitely not going to be putting it in situations like this, but it's good to know I'll be okay with it. Keep up the wonderful reviews. Love your channel!
OK. I have been watching these videos for some time, now... this, however, might just be your best. You take us on an adventure with you to "Grandma's house" for Christmas dinner. You did forget to bring the family. As you were, I am also impressed by how far you went. We all know you are insane, just as we all know we all love what you do. Keep 'em coming. By the way, I just got back from a photo shoot with diving hawks and falcons but since I didn't have a date, I "moused" straight to this site for some great entertainment. Thank you!
Great video, as usual. Imagine how well it would have performed with actual dedicated winter tires, which I'd definitely swap for during the cold Canadian winters. The stock all-terrain tires are just all-seasons.
I’ve been waiting on a video such as this to really see what the Wilderness can do. Super impressive! Living in Colorado I need a vehicle that will handle the snow and ice we experience in the winter months. I’m shopping all different types of vehicles and this one will definitely be at the top end to consider. Thanks for providing such great feedback.
I live in Colorado too and have a non wilderness outback and an actual true 4x4. If you're not going to be doing any real 4x4 stuff the OB wilderness is probably one of the best all around choices you can make for Colorado stuff. I wouldn't take this or any Subaru on really legit 4wd trails but if that's not your thing it's more than good enough.
This shows what a good driver can achieve with a good car (driving a Subaru myself, no information concerning my driving skills…). Interesting observation: You always use your seat belt. This is how it should be. On TH-cam I see a lot of „experts“ who don‘t need a belt…
I saw this video pop up 12 hours ago. That was torture; waiting all day until I could watch it. Great video as always. As I mentioned times before, this channel played a HEAVY part in our decision to purchase the OBW and we couldn’t be happier. Ryan, you rock. Edit: I see in the comments that there are many others that were also influenced. That’s awesome!
Honestly I love these videos. I’m thinking about trading in my 4Runner. I don’t do intense off-roading but I do like to adventure. It’s good to know the capabilities, limitations and buying points without going straight to a 4Runner if I don’t need it. I tend to be on the road more but do just enough that I wouldn’t be ok a standard SUV. I’ve watched a million of these Outback videos from your channel as y’all are the only ones not just rolling it through a downtown area.
We have a 22 OBW. Do a lot of driving in the snow and ice up in the PNW. Have not found anything it wont do off the pavement and it is super comfortable on long road trips.
Get rid of the PLASTIC SKID PLATES and put on Steel Skid Plates also replace the white fog lights for the yellow fog lights. White fog lights reflect back in the snow and rain.
I currently work for Subaru, I drive a Wrangler. I've been given the opportunity to drive the 23' Outback Wilderness on more then a few occasions and have not been let down at all. I love my jeep yet I don't like the gas mileage. The Subaru on the other hand has pretty much everything that I would be looking for not only in a over lander vehicle but also a family vehicle. I am def going to be in the market to purchase one of these bad boys sooner then later. I've def been enjoying watching Driving Sports TV while taking all my qualification tests.. haha. Gives me insight on my other computer screen while watching my test vids for this vehicle. Thank you for the vid shares. Will continue you watching!
I could be wrong but I was under the impression you want to air down when traversing rough/rocky and sandy terrain for better grip and comfort. However, when on snow and ice, you would want a thinner tire to cut through the snow and ice to reach solid ground. Hence the reason rally drivers choose thin tires in snow. Again, I could be wrong so if so please let me know.
I picked up my 23 OBW a few weeks ago (traded in my 20 onyx) and your channel has been the best resource for Outback information. Thanks! Also agreed the main contention in any Outback I have had is that center media console. From being very slow the first minute I start the car to sometimes flat out crashing and rebooting while driving (Onyx 20) They really need to put a better processor and more memory in the system board. Love everything else about it though. The wireless Apple Car play is why I held out for a 23.
I just added a wireless Ottocast dongle to my '20 Onyx that gives me wireless carplay and android auto. It also does full screen android auto (which maybe Subaru will support someday in the older gen6s, but who knows how long they'll drag their feet on that).
No way this get 22 in the city and 26 highway. I get MAYBE 22 ont he highway and thats pushing it. Really bummed me out when I got it the 2023 Those "tow hooks" are not rated or recommended for recovery for yourself or anyone else. They will fly right out if you are doing any recovery. Owners manual also states it can cause your airbags to fail if left on in the front (like some people like to do so they look edgy and sporty). The "skid plate" is ap abysmal in this car. They tout it in every single video on the car but I took it off road, dented mine to hell and realized its just a thin piece of basically aluminum foil on top of plastic. Upgraded it ASAP to something much stiffer that actually covers engine and transmission. Also got the LP Adventure rock sliders and it really completes the look. Also got the WARN hidden winch bumper since I got super stuck in the middle of nowhere and it took me 4hrs before anyone came around (luckily a Jeep with a winch) and got me unstuck. Learned my lessons and upgraded accordingly, now I just get myself out of situations with the 24 OBW
22 OBW owner here. After tossing a set of Falcon Wildpeak AT3s, it makes this car nearly unstoppable. The skidplates are Fake AF, and need to be swapped for sure. ADF makes a wonderful skidplate system for the vehicle. Sure you lose MPG in the end, but the car is near unflappable. It just keeps chugging along with some little effort. Beautiful drive-system in this car for sure. Solid video testing detault off-the-showroom-floor tires.
Got the 23 Wilderness for my daughter to drive…until I drove it home 8 hours and think it’s my car now. Getting her another Outback…liked it that much. Traded in a 21 CR-V and the OBW feels like so much more of a solid, stable, and capable vehicle. Honda is more practical but much less fun.
If you had driven the car like normal...kept up speed and not crawled...you wouldve never gotten stuck. I have a 2018 crosstrek with stock all season tires. In January of 2022 we went to blackwater falls state park in West Virginia. 10 inches of untouched snow. Temps at 9°f. We went up roads steeper than that and had zero stoppages. That gas pedal on the right can be pressed down.
We need an Ascent Wilderness. I need the Ascent interior space and the Wilderness capability. Thanks for doing videos like these. Some folks will never drive in these conditions, but here in Alaska, this happens all the time.
Upper-level Ascents have the same three-way snow functions. I think you get most of what is in the Wilderness packages (without the badge) in upper-level Ascents.
The reason you were able to get traction is because the snow thawed then refroze, probably several times. This is known as a frozen granular. It's different from a hard pack as you can actually dig yourself into frozen granular. If you are light enough and have wide enough tires you can get up on top of the snow, like you did. With too much wheel spin and weight, you fall through and can become high centered. Basically think of it as sand. You want to float on top, not dig in.
I have an '18 outback limited 3.6r and i cannot get her stuck. A couple years ago we got 33" of snow in about 7 hours. I'm an on-call home care nurse, and happened to be on call that night. MarGo laughed at the snow coming down, and held her own all night. The only issue i faced is when i got home, there was 33" of snow in my driveway...
Bought one of these last May - these reviews helped make the decision. It's a great car - handles like a dream on/off road. Love the power and X-mode grip. The tires are great in light snow but not snows. Let's get that tablet software upgraded ASAP Subaru.
Ryan, Next time try and have the ford go further than the Outback (when it finally got stuck) That way we could see “proof” that what the Outback was doing really was Amazing…
I love mine. As good as it is, I did test it to it's limits the other day. My driveway had 30" of fresh snow, she was doing well until I got to the end of the driveway and needed to stop to turn onto the highway. It was then that I realized that this beautiful machine, in all it's glory had met it's match and was high centered. 30" of snow packed down to the underbelly of my poor Subaru. After wasting time trying everything and even being forced to give up on all my recovery devices, I dug her out and we drove on. The only thing that could have helped me in that situation would be if I had an additional 6-8" of lift and some huge mud tires, which would be very unpractical for the 140 mile round trip into town on the highway. lol
@@ms-jl6dl I've been driving in snow in over 100 different vehicles including big rigs, for 40 years and let me tell ya, snow tires are great on ice and anything under like 4" of snow. If you're consistently driving in 2 feet or more of snow, you're FAR better off with big ol knobby tires that can paddle the snow out my man. On my Gen 3 4Runner with 3" lift, I have Pro Comp Xtreme MT2 (mud tires) and it eats 3 feet of snow all day long. Like I said, I just have to get out of my driveway and the tires I have on the Subaru are more than good enough once out. When high centered, it doesn't matter what tires you have. It's like your car is being lifted off the ground and the tires have no contact to the ground. You're welcome for the education, son. =) I'm going to go snowplow my driveway now. =)
I've had various iterations of Subaru's going back to the late 70s and I hail from the wilderness of Northern California where it was required to have 4x4 just to make it up your hill to your house. I swear by Subaru's and their AWD.
Each review of wilderness Subaru gets better and better. Love the terrain that’s shown here and just showing what it can or cannot do. This suv is just amazing bumper to bumper. Anyone getting this made a great choice. Out of my price range but hands down, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. Your reviews of these vehicles are spot on. Viva Subaru! 🏆🥇
Great video, and outstanding result. Still, I feel Subaru is resting on their laurels a bit. They should include some sort of locker for the "Wilderness" models (especially the Outback), aka the Bronco Sport. The technology must be readily available from the WRX. I have an Impreza, and am very happy with it. However, after having 20+ inches of snow in the last 2 storms here in Minneapolis, I would love to have the additional clearance of an Outback or Crosstrek. Streets get plowed, but we have huge mounds and windrows of snow at the intersections which can easily damage the underbody when you have to blast through them.
Thx for such excellent reviews. I traded my 2 door JL wrangler for a '23 Outback Wilderness last night for the wife to drive. We live in the mountains in West Virginia and I think this is going to become our favorite vehicle ever.
Would really love to see this kind of test with a proper winter setup! Why not make a comparison between A/Ts, 3peak A/Ts and a proper dedicated winter set?
Subarus's rock. In snow country in New England, you either have a 4-wheel drive pickup or a Subaru. Would have liked to have seen him back down the road. Mad skills to do that.
I love my 2018 outback it has the car play screen but still has physical buttons for climate controls and seat warmers. Really the best of both worlds that I’m sad they removed.
Thanks Ryan. Our ‘18 Outback with proper winter tires gets us up and over Stevens and down a forest service road to our cabin - it’s amazing. Currently considering the new Pilot though for the useable third row. Hoping you can review that this winter. Really appreciate these reviews.
Thank you Ryan for the great review of the Subaru OB Wilderness edition. Because of your videos about this amazing vehicle, I went out and placed an order for one, which should arrive at my Surabu dealership by the end of January 2023. Can't wait to own it.
Ah hah! I don't want to say I was worried, but it did bring back a memory of a similar adventure where myself and a cousin were unprepared (left the recovery gear at home) and found ourselves in a precarious situation. What you were doing(obviously)was driving on top of it. Which spells disaster when you sink down. You fortunately had such a light car that I am guessing backing out was not difficult to do. But once you are high centered, it is game over.(until the shovels come out and recovery aids) I don't think the 4Runner would have gone as far because of the weight. I don't like driving on top of those conditions, because you don't know when they are going to give way and drop you down onto your skid plates. (been there done that and it sucks!) All that being said, your plastic bits getting torn off is another reason I opt for a vehicle with skid plates. (too bad the 5th gen. 4R still has a lot of plastic bits to get hung up on)
LOVE your videos. My favorite automotive videos on TH-cam. Was trying to decide between Onyx XT or Wilderness. Test drove both a few times. The Wilderness seemed peppier to me, seemed very close in handling . I liked the darker interior with the dark trim. I also liked the increased ride height and Geyser Blue was nice too. I also liked the Wilderness grill and bumpers . Onyx was a nice Outback but I just prefered the features of the Wilderness especially after watching your video’s.
Subaru owes you some kind of kickback. I bought my 23 OB Wilderness with help from this channel. The Yokohamas have proven fantastic in my southern Ontario winter conditions thus far. Are they true winter tires? No, are they really really close? I think so.
I ran those Geolandar's on my wife's 2014 Forester a few year back. I cannot imagine ANY tire having better grip in the snow than they did. Like I was driving on flypaper. Very deep "fresh" snow. They didn't last all that long though. (mileage) 2014 2.5. with 6 speed manual.
I know you cant change tires on a test vehicle, but I would love to see you test some of the newer "all weather" tires, like the Cross Contact 2, vs regular all seasons and the all terrain tires.
They're excellent,very close to the standard (European) winter tire but not as good on ice and snow as "nordic" extreme winter tire (Viking contact,X-ice,FR zero,HakkapellitaR10,DM-V2 which are poor in wet and dangerous in dry). BTW steel chains are made for deep snow,everybody should have a set in their cars in winter)
It got a lot further than I thought! I really like this trim. My issue is that they don’t have cooling seats, and as someone who lives in the Midwest, I’m tired of hot leather seats 😂. I love the blue as well on the Wilderness.
Unfortunately cooling seats only comes in the leather seats. So would you rather give up the durable startek material for cooling? My experience was cooling didn't do much. A little air at best.
@@theebigham I feel like it depends on the make. GMC’s were loud but worked. Honda’s didn’t feel strong enough. Either material to me is better than cloth for my dogs.
Amazing video and thank you for sharing this. I am wondering if you purchase a vehicle for yourself in 2023, would you still buy 4Runner off-road or get Outback Wilderness?
Oof. Depends on what we need. If I didn’t have the Ranger I would get a 4Runner. If it’s a second car I’d probably get the Forester Wilderness. If you can get only one, maybe the Outback Wilderness.
remember too when you are in deep snow and mud mode you can turn your wheel back and forth to help you get traction that is outside of the hole you are digging while it spins.
THANK YOU-- this is what I've wanted to see.... what good is an offroad if no one ever shows it "OFF-ROAD"?? Snow- particularly wet slush and ice is what we get most of around here... THANKS AGAIN-- great video.
Suggestion to Subie: an easy way to deactivate the assisted tail gate. I was fighting the car the other day to fit my 14' 2x4s in the car. I know this is a first world problem, but Subie could steal a trick from GM's Trailblazer and just offer an "off" button that's easily accessible for the assisted rear gate. That would make things to much easier when you want to carry longer items around.
Love your series but a small request to reduce the base frequencies just a bit while driving as my home theater helps us feel your roads, lol. :) Seriously love your show tho!!
That's why if you want to buy small, the REAL AWD, got to buy Subaru or Mitsubishi. I would love to buy one of this, not that big one, but it is able to offroad👍👍
3 mph…your camera guy could have walked there faster! Great video, but it looks like Subaru needs to change their snow settings (reverse them perhaps - deep snow should be snow mud). My experience on roads like this with a Xterra is similar; I could go until I high centered (snow got too deep and I had to shovel to get out). The car did very well, supplemented heavily by a good driver! Most folks would never have made it that far. Well done!
I loved the video. I thought the wilderness did a great job. I definitely want to upgrade my premium to a wilderness for sure now! Thank you for the video.
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He's a natural born presenter, and reviews on this channel are the most fun to watch. I am a little jealous of his job actually :)
I think we all are jealous but I’d never be able to the video work like that.
I’m a product advisor for Subaru and use your videos to push my customers over the edge as to why they should own a Subaru! Thank you Ryan for being such an amazing ambassador for Subaru in all your videos, makes me proud to represent such an amazing brand!!
You should tell them to build proper recovery points into their Wilderness models instead of relying on the I-bolts. As more people listen to the marketing hype and push these things to the edge more will get stuck. Subaru needs to give them a safe and convenient way to get out.
You should tell them how the CVT is crap in the long run
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@@fishguy911 yup!
@@pingpongballz5998 where is this information published?
By far the best vehicle review channel on TH-cam.It’s like having a friend you trust reviewing vehicles.Would love to see a Subaru trail test with a stock car then with better tires which lots of people upgrade.
Big thanks to you and your crew for filming under such conditions. Great aerial shots from your drone.
I have to say I have a 23 OB Wilderness and this channel is the main reason i got one, I done all my homework for a while when i was looking but my main selling thought were because of Ryan. such fantastic car reviews and testing over the years with huge amounts of knowledge and unlike others he actually takes the vehicles off-road and pushes them.
The 23 model has had the new interface upgrade from the new OB line and its a better layout with things like seat warmer and Hvac on the main screen without having to go through many menus. Ive not had a chance to take mine into the mountains yet but i cant wait to see what this can do. And Ryan if you are ever up north of the border near Vancouver come say hello id love to take you out in mine :)
I feel that Subaru should sponsor this channel. Ryan does a great job demonstrating how capable the Subaru actually is, as opposed to another pretty popular review channel whom Subaru has black listed.
I'm glad to see that Subaru is building some capable vehicles, seemed a few years they were quite lacking. Kind of reminds me of the old 80's 4WD Subarus again in their capability....great work Subaru.
I'm torn between the wildernesses and other BOF SUVs. At the end of the day, do I need all the extreme off-road capabilities for driving mostly what Ryan has been doing in his videos, which Subarus are more than capable doing.
@@jwuhome I've had 2 Jeep Grand Cherokees, 1st gen 96 and a 98, both of them were unibody. You don't need a body on frame SUV to go offroad, contrary to what all the TH-cam armchair quarterbacks pretend....Just look at all the regular XJ Jeep Cherokees that are heavily modified for offroad use, yes those are unibody as well. Wranglers, 4Runners, all those body on frame SUV's are just way over-hyped, and honestly ain't that great at doing anything in a practical sense...they're heavy, they're cumbersome, and they're not very well power to weight balanced. The only Wrangler that is pretty proportional would be a base model 2 door, which really is the only one that belongs on the narrow and tight offroad trails, the 4 door higher end models are too cumbersome for actual trail use due to their size and added weight, it really effects their breakover angles mostly....both my Grand Cherokees saw quite a few mud holes, backroads, ATV/UTV trails, etc. and never had any problems with either of them aside from the regular oil/filter changes, a battery and serpentine belt, as well as several sets of tires over the years. I was quite surprised with them considering they had what everyone has claimed to be the worst transmissions the 42RE...then again I had them serviced every 45,000 miles, and had auxiliary external transmission coolers on both,. The newer Grand Cherokees are quite capable as well. I haven't gotten to try out a new(er) Subaru, but given what Ryan has done in his videos they'd be more than capable with the right set of tires for your usage.
same with you, I purchased my 22 obw last Februry
@@yodowilderness So almost a year with it, how'd it doing for you? Have you kept track of fuel economy? For most of my needs the Subaru Outback or Forester would do fine...been tossing around the Subaru or a Ford Maverick, but still not liking the small turbo 4 cylinder and 6 cylinder engine idea for long term ownership....and the Subaru can still be had with a regular 4 cylinder.
I’m sold .. totally Awesome.. and I love how the parts where the Violin came in .. 😅😅
Suggestion to you, Ryan: I’m pretty sure both Wilderness models (Outback and Forester) are cross-shopped by many. How about a side-by-side comparison to help out potential owners to make a proper decision?
I have a Forester Wilderness in this Geyser Blue with all the options added and I Love it!
My wife was driving home just after a major winter storm and called me while driving to brag about how great the car was handling the conditions. She was like I'm passing cars and not even worried which I must admit worried me but she got home safe and sound!
You can always pass cars...but you can't stop any faster. A LOT of people find this out the hard way in Colorado.
I just want to comment and say how much I appreciate all of the Subaru Wilderness model videos you've done. I've watched every single one of them from beginning to end (both Forester and OB).. You are providing hugely valuable content that isn't available anywhere else. Subaru owes you a pat on the back.. Phenomenal products, even better content!
I continue to be impressed with the drivelines of these Wilderness models, and how well they seem to resist overheating in tough conditions like this....very nice!
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You are one of the reasons I just purchased a 2023 Subaru Forester Wilderness Edition. Thank you for all of your hard work on these car videos. 💞
Ryan, you know me mainly as a critic and anti-Subaru follower, but I must give you credit. Your video is fantastic and even I, who despises Subaru, may actually sit in this wagon when it comes to the Auto Show near me. Cheers to 2023 sir.
The change of the final drive ratio makes a substantial difference. Mid and low range punch is more aggressive and responsive especially considering CVT's tend to struggle with initial take-off and acceleration.
I'm really glad you ran this test with a completely stock vehicle and tires. I'm sure the enthusiasts will have lots of suggestions, but for us everyday drivers, the stock performance is what we want to know about. I always ran winter tires on my three previous Forester's, but since the OBW Yokohama tires have the three peak symbol, I've just left them on. My impression - with standard air pressure in the tires - is that the Geolanders are adequate, but noticeably more slippery when trying to stop at an icy intersection. Sometimes stopping distance is more important than forward traction!
Man, this makes me validate my purchase even more! What a beast this car is!!
I own a wilderness too and I couldn’t agree w you more!!
My Forester Sport is a beast in the Minnesota snow this year! Haven’t got stuck once that’s to the X-mode!
@@immachine1565 that’s why I will stay with the older 2016-2019 models, I can replace that stupid touchscreen with an aftermarket stereo and not worry about a failing blanking out POS that costs thousands of dollars to replace
@@immachine1565 maybe in the US. I haven’t heard of anything up here in Canada
I just recently picked up my ‘23 Outback Wilderness last Friday and am enjoying it out here in Colorado. These reviews by you helped me tremendously in my decision to purchase one and couldn’t be more happier. Thank you and always look forward to all of your content!
If Subie could offer a base version with the Forester’s instruments including all the physical buttons instead of that giant iPad, that’d be great.
And that would be awesome
Hi Ryan, I’m a retired tire company executive with most of my experience in off-road tires such as Mickey Thompson, Cooper and Mastercraft. At around 14:15 you mention an increased potential for puncturing an aired down tire due to higher risk to sidewall exposure. This is incorrect. We conducted many controlled tests on several brands and these showed that because at lower pressures, the additional sidewall flexibility allowed the sidewall to deflect around rocks and stakes more readily thus reducing the risk of staking a sidewall. Our tests showed that the risk of sidewall damage in Offroad conditions with a tire at 18psi vs 35psi was up to 25 times LESS chance of staking either sidewall or even through the tread. Of course this also is aided by the lower speeds one usually drives in Offroad situations. Thanks for your excellent videos. John
i'm getting a '24 in about 3 months, and will be "pimpin" it out for dangerous grocery'in
You just make me smile every time you do something with the Outback Wilderness. This is going to be my next buy. I'm definitely not going to be putting it in situations like this, but it's good to know I'll be okay with it. Keep up the wonderful reviews. Love your channel!
Drive thru 3 ft deep in my 24’ crosstrek wilderness edition don’t get stuck at all! I fuckin love it
Awesome dream car
Same , so expensive though
@@calvincalvinify Compared to.....?
@@eskieman3948 easy to look it up yourself
@@eskieman3948 easy to look it up yourself
Same here
OK. I have been watching these videos for some time, now... this, however, might just be your best. You take us on an adventure with you to "Grandma's house" for Christmas dinner. You did forget to bring the family. As you were, I am also impressed by how far you went. We all know you are insane, just as we all know we all love what you do. Keep 'em coming. By the way, I just got back from a photo shoot with diving hawks and falcons but since I didn't have a date, I "moused" straight to this site for some great entertainment. Thank you!
Great video, as usual. Imagine how well it would have performed with actual dedicated winter tires, which I'd definitely swap for during the cold Canadian winters. The stock all-terrain tires are just all-seasons.
This channel and the coverage on the OBW is what made me buy a ‘23 OBW and my first Subaru. Two months later and I’m still very happy with it.
I’ve been waiting on a video such as this to really see what the Wilderness can do. Super impressive! Living in Colorado I need a vehicle that will handle the snow and ice we experience in the winter months. I’m shopping all different types of vehicles and this one will definitely be at the top end to consider. Thanks for providing such great feedback.
I live in Colorado too and have a non wilderness outback and an actual true 4x4. If you're not going to be doing any real 4x4 stuff the OB wilderness is probably one of the best all around choices you can make for Colorado stuff. I wouldn't take this or any Subaru on really legit 4wd trails but if that's not your thing it's more than good enough.
What vehicle did you end up buying?
@@Henry11111 Nothing as of yet.
This shows what a good driver can achieve with a good car (driving a Subaru myself, no information concerning my driving skills…). Interesting observation: You always use your seat belt. This is how it should be. On TH-cam I see a lot of „experts“ who don‘t need a belt…
I got a 2021 Outback and I love it. Been road tripping with it and started car camping last year 2022. Great car very pleased that I bought it.
I saw this video pop up 12 hours ago. That was torture; waiting all day until I could watch it. Great video as always. As I mentioned times before, this channel played a HEAVY part in our decision to purchase the OBW and we couldn’t be happier. Ryan, you rock.
Edit: I see in the comments that there are many others that were also influenced. That’s awesome!
Honestly I love these videos. I’m thinking about trading in my 4Runner. I don’t do intense off-roading but I do like to adventure. It’s good to know the capabilities, limitations and buying points without going straight to a 4Runner if I don’t need it. I tend to be on the road more but do just enough that I wouldn’t be ok a standard SUV. I’ve watched a million of these Outback videos from your channel as y’all are the only ones not just rolling it through a downtown area.
We have a 22 OBW. Do a lot of driving in the snow and ice up in the PNW. Have not found anything it wont do off the pavement and it is super comfortable on long road trips.
Get rid of the PLASTIC SKID PLATES and put on Steel Skid Plates also replace the white fog lights for the yellow fog lights.
White fog lights reflect back in the snow and rain.
I currently work for Subaru, I drive a Wrangler. I've been given the opportunity to drive the 23' Outback Wilderness on more then a few occasions and have not been let down at all. I love my jeep yet I don't like the gas mileage. The Subaru on the other hand has pretty much everything that I would be looking for not only in a over lander vehicle but also a family vehicle. I am def going to be in the market to purchase one of these bad boys sooner then later. I've def been enjoying watching Driving Sports TV while taking all my qualification tests.. haha. Gives me insight on my other computer screen while watching my test vids for this vehicle. Thank you for the vid shares. Will continue you watching!
As a Outback Wilderness owner, I love this. Love my wilderness edition and pumped to get it out for some fishing adventures in 2023!
I love your Wilderness videos. Always a treat to watch.
I could be wrong but I was under the impression you want to air down when traversing rough/rocky and sandy terrain for better grip and comfort. However, when on snow and ice, you would want a thinner tire to cut through the snow and ice to reach solid ground. Hence the reason rally drivers choose thin tires in snow. Again, I could be wrong so if so please let me know.
This channel should have over a million subscribers. This high quality tv style production.
The OBW is my first Subaru and I love it!
I picked up my 23 OBW a few weeks ago (traded in my 20 onyx) and your channel has been the best resource for Outback information. Thanks! Also agreed the main contention in any Outback I have had is that center media console. From being very slow the first minute I start the car to sometimes flat out crashing and rebooting while driving (Onyx 20) They really need to put a better processor and more memory in the system board. Love everything else about it though. The wireless Apple Car play is why I held out for a 23.
I just added a wireless Ottocast dongle to my '20 Onyx that gives me wireless carplay and android auto. It also does full screen android auto (which maybe Subaru will support someday in the older gen6s, but who knows how long they'll drag their feet on that).
Showing LOVE for the channel thank you for another great video once again man. Have a blessed day everyone
No way this get 22 in the city and 26 highway. I get MAYBE 22 ont he highway and thats pushing it. Really bummed me out when I got it the 2023
Those "tow hooks" are not rated or recommended for recovery for yourself or anyone else. They will fly right out if you are doing any recovery. Owners manual also states it can cause your airbags to fail if left on in the front (like some people like to do so they look edgy and sporty).
The "skid plate" is ap abysmal in this car. They tout it in every single video on the car but I took it off road, dented mine to hell and realized its just a thin piece of basically aluminum foil on top of plastic. Upgraded it ASAP to something much stiffer that actually covers engine and transmission. Also got the LP Adventure rock sliders and it really completes the look. Also got the WARN hidden winch bumper since I got super stuck in the middle of nowhere and it took me 4hrs before anyone came around (luckily a Jeep with a winch) and got me unstuck. Learned my lessons and upgraded accordingly, now I just get myself out of situations with the 24 OBW
I got a 23 with nearly 17k KM on it and i avarage about 27, 28 Mpg 50/50 highway and town, Im also rocking 235 falken wildpeak AT3W light truck tires
I must have been there a few days after you filmed this. I saw the tracks and wondered who made it that far up the trail!
22 OBW owner here. After tossing a set of Falcon Wildpeak AT3s, it makes this car nearly unstoppable. The skidplates are Fake AF, and need to be swapped for sure. ADF makes a wonderful skidplate system for the vehicle. Sure you lose MPG in the end, but the car is near unflappable. It just keeps chugging along with some little effort. Beautiful drive-system in this car for sure. Solid video testing detault off-the-showroom-floor tires.
Got the 23 Wilderness for my daughter to drive…until I drove it home 8 hours and think it’s my car now. Getting her another Outback…liked it that much. Traded in a 21 CR-V and the OBW feels like so much more of a solid, stable, and capable vehicle. Honda is more practical but much less fun.
If you had driven the car like normal...kept up speed and not crawled...you wouldve never gotten stuck. I have a 2018 crosstrek with stock all season tires. In January of 2022 we went to blackwater falls state park in West Virginia. 10 inches of untouched snow. Temps at 9°f. We went up roads steeper than that and had zero stoppages. That gas pedal on the right can be pressed down.
Can’t wait for you to get your hands on the new pilot trailsport 😊
Great review as always! Keep up the great work!
2 weeks!
@@drivingsportsYes, the Polit Trailsport is what I am waiting for.
We need an Ascent Wilderness. I need the Ascent interior space and the Wilderness capability. Thanks for doing videos like these. Some folks will never drive in these conditions, but here in Alaska, this happens all the time.
I think the new Honda Pilot Trail is going to fill that niche before Subaru gets around to it -- I'm looking forward to Ryan's upcoming review.
Upper-level Ascents have the same three-way snow functions. I think you get most of what is in the Wilderness packages (without the badge) in upper-level Ascents.
The reason you were able to get traction is because the snow thawed then refroze, probably several times. This is known as a frozen granular. It's different from a hard pack as you can actually dig yourself into frozen granular. If you are light enough and have wide enough tires you can get up on top of the snow, like you did. With too much wheel spin and weight, you fall through and can become high centered.
Basically think of it as sand. You want to float on top, not dig in.
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee.
Float like a Cadillac, sting like a Bimmer :)
I have an '18 outback limited 3.6r and i cannot get her stuck. A couple years ago we got 33" of snow in about 7 hours. I'm an on-call home care nurse, and happened to be on call that night. MarGo laughed at the snow coming down, and held her own all night. The only issue i faced is when i got home, there was 33" of snow in my driveway...
Bought one of these last May - these reviews helped make the decision. It's a great car - handles like a dream on/off road. Love the power and X-mode grip. The tires are great in light snow but not snows. Let's get that tablet software upgraded ASAP Subaru.
Ryan, Next time try and have the ford go further than the Outback (when it finally got stuck) That way we could see “proof” that what the Outback was doing really was Amazing…
I love mine. As good as it is, I did test it to it's limits the other day. My driveway had 30" of fresh snow, she was doing well until I got to the end of the driveway and needed to stop to turn onto the highway. It was then that I realized that this beautiful machine, in all it's glory had met it's match and was high centered. 30" of snow packed down to the underbelly of my poor Subaru. After wasting time trying everything and even being forced to give up on all my recovery devices, I dug her out and we drove on. The only thing that could have helped me in that situation would be if I had an additional 6-8" of lift and some huge mud tires, which would be very unpractical for the 140 mile round trip into town on the highway. lol
Mud tires for a deep snow?? Really? Ever heard of "snow tires"? They're big on the rest of the planet
@@ms-jl6dl I've been driving in snow in over 100 different vehicles including big rigs, for 40 years and let me tell ya, snow tires are great on ice and anything under like 4" of snow. If you're consistently driving in 2 feet or more of snow, you're FAR better off with big ol knobby tires that can paddle the snow out my man. On my Gen 3 4Runner with 3" lift, I have Pro Comp Xtreme MT2 (mud tires) and it eats 3 feet of snow all day long. Like I said, I just have to get out of my driveway and the tires I have on the Subaru are more than good enough once out. When high centered, it doesn't matter what tires you have. It's like your car is being lifted off the ground and the tires have no contact to the ground. You're welcome for the education, son. =) I'm going to go snowplow my driveway now. =)
I've had various iterations of Subaru's going back to the late 70s and I hail from the wilderness of Northern California where it was required to have 4x4 just to make it up your hill to your house. I swear by Subaru's and their AWD.
As an owner of a OBW I am happy to see what this car can do
Thanks! Excellent content and very informative.
Your reviews are always impressive and helpful in terms of knowing a vehicles capabilities.
Using less wheel slip on crunchy slush/snow makes sense, I'd think you'd only want the spin in powder. Great video, love your attention to detail.
Each review of wilderness Subaru gets better and better. Love the terrain that’s shown here and just showing what it can or cannot do. This suv is just amazing bumper to bumper. Anyone getting this made a great choice. Out of my price range but hands down, I’d buy it in a heartbeat. Your reviews of these vehicles are spot on. Viva Subaru! 🏆🥇
Hands down the best automotive journalist.
Big thanks to you and your crew for filming under such conditions.
I truly can't speak highly enough about this car. I own a 23 and its such a fun and capable car with a ton of unique/fun features
Great video, and outstanding result. Still, I feel Subaru is resting on their laurels a bit. They should include some sort of locker for the "Wilderness" models (especially the Outback), aka the Bronco Sport. The technology must be readily available from the WRX. I have an Impreza, and am very happy with it. However, after having 20+ inches of snow in the last 2 storms here in Minneapolis, I would love to have the additional clearance of an Outback or Crosstrek. Streets get plowed, but we have huge mounds and windrows of snow at the intersections which can easily damage the underbody when you have to blast through them.
Mindbuildingsolutions approved!
Excellent video amd content.
Thx for such excellent reviews. I traded my 2 door JL wrangler for a '23 Outback Wilderness last night for the wife to drive. We live in the mountains in West Virginia and I think this is going to become our favorite vehicle ever.
I wish they sold this model in Australia
Your channel is a big reason why I recently bought a Crosstrek. But I got a 6mt so I don't have X-mode
Would really love to see this kind of test with a proper winter setup!
Why not make a comparison between A/Ts, 3peak A/Ts and a proper dedicated winter set?
Subarus's rock. In snow country in New England, you either have a 4-wheel drive pickup or a Subaru. Would have liked to have seen him back down the road. Mad skills to do that.
Ah! That was great ☺ what a fun video-i have a Subaru Outback but have been looking to trade in for the Wilderness model.. loved your test review.
What a review, amazing car.
I love my 2018 outback it has the car play screen but still has physical buttons for climate controls and seat warmers. Really the best of both worlds that I’m sad they removed.
Nobody I mean nobody tests more Subarus than Ryan on YT.
And does it right! 🏆
Thanks Ryan. Our ‘18 Outback with proper winter tires gets us up and over Stevens and down a forest service road to our cabin - it’s amazing. Currently considering the new Pilot though for the useable third row. Hoping you can review that this winter. Really appreciate these reviews.
Filming Pilot Trailsport in a couple weeks!
Thanks for this video! We just picked up our 2023 OBW (same color) 2 weeks ago! We are loving it! I need that jacket! Where can I get one?
Thank you Ryan for the great review of the Subaru OB Wilderness edition. Because of your videos about this amazing vehicle, I went out and placed an order for one, which should arrive at my Surabu dealership by the end of January 2023. Can't wait to own it.
Ah hah! I don't want to say I was worried, but it did bring back a memory of a similar adventure where myself and a cousin were unprepared (left the recovery gear at home) and found ourselves in a precarious situation. What you were doing(obviously)was driving on top of it. Which spells disaster when you sink down. You fortunately had such a light car that I am guessing backing out was not difficult to do. But once you are high centered, it is game over.(until the shovels come out and recovery aids) I don't think the 4Runner would have gone as far because of the weight. I don't like driving on top of those conditions, because you don't know when they are going to give way and drop you down onto your skid plates. (been there done that and it sucks!) All that being said, your plastic bits getting torn off is another reason I opt for a vehicle with skid plates. (too bad the 5th gen. 4R still has a lot of plastic bits to get hung up on)
Always enjoyed your videos. You guys are the reason I bought my Outback Wilderness when it first came out last year.
Thanks Ryan from Montréal, love your videos, and being a big fan of Subaru outback your reviews make me happy. Keep it up!!!
LOVE your videos. My favorite automotive videos on TH-cam. Was trying to decide between Onyx XT or Wilderness. Test drove both a few times. The Wilderness seemed peppier to me, seemed very close in handling . I liked the darker interior with the dark trim. I also liked the increased ride height and Geyser Blue was nice too. I also liked the Wilderness grill and bumpers . Onyx was a nice Outback but I just prefered the features of the Wilderness especially after watching your video’s.
Great video, Ryan. Beast of a vehicle !!
Subaru owes you some kind of kickback. I bought my 23 OB Wilderness with help from this channel. The Yokohamas have proven fantastic in my southern Ontario winter conditions thus far. Are they true winter tires? No, are they really really close? I think so.
I ran those Geolandar's on my wife's 2014 Forester a few year back. I cannot imagine ANY tire having better grip in the snow than they did. Like I was driving on flypaper. Very deep "fresh" snow. They didn't last all that long though. (mileage) 2014 2.5. with 6 speed manual.
Ryan - @ 26:20 why did the engine die? Did it overheat - were there any warning lights on the dash? 🤔
Hi Ryan,
Another great review !
I’m so jealous of the places you go here in the PNW.
You’re a lucky dog !
I know you cant change tires on a test vehicle, but I would love to see you test some of the newer "all weather" tires, like the Cross Contact 2, vs regular all seasons and the all terrain tires.
They're excellent,very close to the standard (European) winter tire but not as good on ice and snow as "nordic" extreme winter tire (Viking contact,X-ice,FR zero,HakkapellitaR10,DM-V2 which are poor in wet and dangerous in dry). BTW steel chains are made for deep snow,everybody should have a set in their cars in winter)
Can you please do a video of the 4Runner Limited? Full time 4WD
It got a lot further than I thought! I really like this trim. My issue is that they don’t have cooling seats, and as someone who lives in the Midwest, I’m tired of hot leather seats 😂. I love the blue as well on the Wilderness.
Unfortunately cooling seats only comes in the leather seats. So would you rather give up the durable startek material for cooling? My experience was cooling didn't do much. A little air at best.
@@theebigham I feel like it depends on the make. GMC’s were loud but worked. Honda’s didn’t feel strong enough. Either material to me is better than cloth for my dogs.
Amazing video and thank you for sharing this. I am wondering if you purchase a vehicle for yourself in 2023, would you still buy 4Runner off-road or get Outback Wilderness?
Oof. Depends on what we need. If I didn’t have the Ranger I would get a 4Runner. If it’s a second car I’d probably get the Forester Wilderness. If you can get only one, maybe the Outback Wilderness.
@@drivingsports Ryan, thank you for the reply and have a great 2023.
Cannot stop an outback wilderness
I can tell how excited you are, I love my outback wilerness as well.
Always look forward to your videos!! Strongly considering this car thanks to you!😊
remember too when you are in deep snow and mud mode you can turn your wheel back and forth to help you get traction that is outside of the hole you are digging while it spins.
THANK YOU-- this is what I've wanted to see.... what good is an offroad if no one ever shows it "OFF-ROAD"?? Snow- particularly wet slush and ice is what we get most of around here... THANKS AGAIN-- great video.
Suggestion to Subie: an easy way to deactivate the assisted tail gate. I was fighting the car the other day to fit my 14' 2x4s in the car. I know this is a first world problem, but Subie could steal a trick from GM's Trailblazer and just offer an "off" button that's easily accessible for the assisted rear gate. That would make things to much easier when you want to carry longer items around.
Love your series but a small request to reduce the base frequencies just a bit while driving as my home theater helps us feel your roads, lol. :) Seriously love your show tho!!
That's why if you want to buy small, the REAL AWD, got to buy Subaru or Mitsubishi.
I would love to buy one of this, not that big one, but it is able to offroad👍👍
Mitsubishi makes a fantastic awd system and they have smaller, more nimble vehicles than Subaru.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 You're wrong. The Forester & CrossTrek are far better than any Mitsubishi.
@@eskieman3948 very convincing argument. But, no. You’re wrong.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Mitsubishi also make engines that go boom, never again.
3 mph…your camera guy could have walked there faster! Great video, but it looks like Subaru needs to change their snow settings (reverse them perhaps - deep snow should be snow mud). My experience on roads like this with a Xterra is similar; I could go until I high centered (snow got too deep and I had to shovel to get out). The car did very well, supplemented heavily by a good driver! Most folks would never have made it that far. Well done!
Man I love your videos. Thank you so much. Your videos helped me to make my mind and get my Outback wilderness and I’m absolutely loving it so far. 👍🙏
I loved the video. I thought the wilderness did a great job. I definitely want to upgrade my premium to a wilderness for sure now! Thank you for the video.
I bought a whole Subaru Forester wilderness because of these videos ❤