What Did The Beatles Think of Led Zeppelin?
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- What Did The Beatles Think of Led Zeppelin? Was Led Zeppelin Fans of The Beatles? Why Did Jimmy Page Compare The Satanic Stairway To Heaven Theory With The Paul Is Dead Theory? What Led Zeppelin Song Did George Harrison Inspire?
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When I listen to Led Zeppelin, they are my favorite band. When I listen to the Beatles, they are my favorite band. These 2 groups cannot and should not be compared. They are both the greatest ever and will live on throughout the ages.
@@DougLofstrom not for me. Zep is always my favorite band ❤️
Agreed. The Beatles music was based on folk, early rock & roll, soul music, ballads, the blues, stage music, Dylan lyrics, with later added complex orchestrations and electronic sounds. There were only a few hard rock, heavy metal Beatles songs in the White Album.
Led Zeppelin is rooted in the hard rock blues blended with the heavy sound from Cream and Hendrix which also had long guitar solos that were moving into jazz. What immediately set Led Zeppelin apart was Robert Plant’s very high vocal singing which gave the band a unique sound. Multiple heavy metal bands would copy those high vocals.
From there Led Zeppelin moved towards the direction of the Beatles adding more ballad sections, acoustic playing and more toned down vocals in a more folk style.
It's been said that Led Zeppelin was to the 70's as the Beatles was to the 60's.
Nicely put. I feel the same, when I listen to whichever, they are my favorite band. I wouldn't have thought to put it that way, but that's exactly how I feel as well.
I’ll make it easy. Drummer.bonzo. Or. Ringo Bonzo
Guitar Jimmy or George. Easy Jimmy
Bass. Jpj or. Easy jpj
Singer. Easy. Robert.
Now the words. That s preference. I’ll let Beatles have words. But. Not my kind thing. 4 to 1 zeppelin wins
Two unbelievable bands .... I would like to go back in a time machine to watch Led Zeppelin in their prime .... Must have been awesome.
I was a teen in the 70s...best time of my life!! I will get in that time machine with ya!
@@juliemanarin4127 cool 😎
Thank you George for prompting Jimmy to write the masterpiece, "The Rain Song"!
Yes indeed!!
Amen to that! Absolutely brilliant track... it's timeless!
Both bands achieved enormous success, however, I have to agree with both Jimmy Page and Robert Plant in that both bands are entirely different 'entities." But, if you look back at Led Zeppelin's September 17,1970 interview in New York (I believe) Jimmy was asked a question by a member of the American press, what he thinks of the Beatles and if he respects their music, he said: "I think they're great", and said in a manner of speaking 'it's what you prefer (musically) us or them', he is telling us it's which music do you prefer (the public) and he is right. Led Zep always respected the Beatles and vice a versa. This press conference took place literally like less than a month before Led Zeppelin III was released.
@@Nicholas-dreamlove Agree. Art is subjective. One culture's art is probably nonsense to another.
Thank god all of the great British rock bands were completely different. The Beatles were or are the greatest singer songwriters at least in rock. Other bands like Zeppelin Stones Who did things better than the Beatles. It’s apples and oranges. There is no doubt that a band that was only together for 7 years is still talked about as the greatest in Rock n Roll is amazing.
The Stones, Zeppelin and Beatles are the most often compared and all 3 couldn’t be any more different than another.
These guys have no reason to diss each other...what the hell for? Nothing to be gained. Greatness comes in many different forms and they are intelligent enough to see that and accept it.
@@thomastimlin1724 : Yes, very true.
Listen to the opening two chords of “The Rain Song”. You’ll notice they are the same two that open “Something”, George’s song. This would seem to substantiate the story that the Rain Song WAS an homage and answer to Harrison.
I Love them both. Essentially two different styles from two different eras.
Agreed. I am not a Led Zeppelin fan per se, but I certainly recognize and acknowledge their great talent and what they achieved, which was massive. Simply a preference on my part for the Beatles.
intelligent answers form many here. Music isn't a damned contest, it's an art. Li ke form Picasso to Van Gogh to Rembrandt. it's all good if it has any skill and quality to it..
John Bonham was a big Wings fan and followed them around for a few dates on their Wings Over America tour. He's actually seen backstage, along with Harry Nilsson, in the documentary that came with the Rockshow DVD re-release. Jimmy Page is mentioned by name in the song Rockshow on Venus and Mars. John Paul Jones was in Give My Regards to Broad Street.
Love both bands but love Zep much much more.
Agreed.
No one can deny what the Beatles achieved or meant to so many. But apropos Led Zeppelin; in the words of John Paul
Jones: "Let`s face it,......it`s the best bloody band there ever was".
Yep exactly
Elvis, Beatles, and LZ are in leagues of their own. Art is art. How does one compare Rembrandt with Van Gogh or Picasso? How does one compare Bach, Mozart and Beethoven?
You put Elvis, who did not write a single song, in the same group with brilliant song-or-music writers?I You were being funny, right?
@@GeorgeTel100Agreed
@@GeorgeTel100 Unlike Led Zeppelin, Elvis didn't steal other people's songs and claim he wrote them.
Just look at the song writing credits on Zeppelin's original albums and compare them to the song writing credits on Zeppelin's re-issued albums !
NOTICE ANY FUCKING DIFFERENCE ?????????
Led Zeppelin, "brilliant song writers" ??????
LOL !!!!!!!!!!!!
The only time the proven plagiarists, Led Zeppelin, gave credit where credit was due was when serious legal action came their way !!!!!!!
@golfhound Nailed it, Mate!
@@Stublinsky I agree with you 10000% - Every time I say what you said here to Zep fans it gets ugly very quickly - to tell them the real truth about zep's song-writing """abilities""" is like professing support for Trump in the midst of Chicago! I was ONLY referring to the Beatles and the Classical Composers. And btw, I respect any pop songwriter whose music I may not care about more than I do Zeppelin!!!!
Big fan of Zeppelin. Great info. Thanks 🤙
For me it’s apples & oranges. Yes they were both in a league of their own, and I love both bands.
However the Beatles didn’t not rarely tour. Until 1966, they toured constantly. It’s just that they rarely played over…say…25 minutes or so, unlike Zep and all other rock-n-roll acts in the 70's that played two-plus hour concerts.
From an article in Far Out:
Ex-Beatles guitarist George Harrison was in attendance at the show, and he was blown away by what he saw and heard during the three-hour show. Afterwards, the party became one of the most notorious instances of hedonistic abandon in the history of Led Zeppelin. It was written in a news report at the time that the band was in “rare destructive form” and madness ensued, including ‘The Quiet One’, Harrison throwing a chunk of birthday cake at the birthday boy.
Regardless of the antics, Led Zeppelin had left an indelible musical mark on George Harrison. “Fuck me!” he allegedly said backstage. “With the Beatles, we were on for 25 minutes and could get off in 15.”
True, but in their Hamburg Germany Days, they were playing 8 to 10 hours a day with little break time. Amphetamines can work wonders and that is how they initially got so tight as a band.
@bowtieguy377
That's a myth. In Hamburg, the Beatles played short sets with breaks in between. They played the same sets over and over then took breaks. They didnt play ten hour gigs. Nobody is booked for ten hour gigs in clubs and certainly not back then.
I don't like it when people try to compare bands like this. They were 2 very distinct and original bands with their own sound. The only difference is that The Beatles were playing for years before LZ were a band and, more or less, influenced them. By how much is the question.
I agree that the Led Zeppelin is in a league of their own and their success was massive, just like the Beatles who were in a league of their own. I also feel the Rolling Stones have been massively successful and are in a league of their own withall 3 groups breaking ground in different directions in different ways with different styles. SO, I feel all 3 groups have been amazing irock pioneers and the cumulative effect of what they accomplished in those early years may never be equaled. They changed music forever.
I agree. All three bands grew up when the culture and the schools were highly regimented. They learned how to play "properly" and THEN they bent the "rules" with intuitive creativity. Too me, that's the BEST recipe for artistic genius...and their legacy will endure for decades to come.
Jimmy page on the beatles "the early records were nothing to really write home about but by the time they were at magical mystery tour it was really going somewhere"
Jimmy was right...as always
Two amazingly talented and influential bands. The Beatles did it first, writing in many genres and being responsible for taking pop music into the more serious realm of compositional music, ala Sgt Pepper. The major difference between the two bands was Zep's improvisational and musical skills. Each member of Zep excelled at their instruments. As Ringo said, the Beatles were more traditional and didn't go for all that "flair." That being said, the bands are certainly neck and neck for significance and influence in the rock genre.
Both are different. The Beatles were to the 60s what Led Zeppelin was to the 70s
0:59 "axed about"?
Great informative video. Just one gripe.....if you axed somebody they'd go to hospital and you'd go to prison.
That’s my bad. 🤣🤣
They are both great in their own way. There is no comparison. Art is unique as each human is. It is wonderful that so many people like love, hate, etc. The same things as all are unique ❤️ now that is wondrous.
"Asked". Not "axed".
I stopped the video and came to the comments for this.
@@TravisEarsman Lol, you KNEW someone had to call it out! 🤣
@@circuitdesign yes because it’s so annoying to me that I didn’t even watch the rest of the video.
Right. Irritating for sure. At least you know it's not AI
I didn't even hear it, but I just woke up and am having my coffee. Too bad you missed the rest of the video.
Good info , did the narrator die after recording this ? Good god man ! Take a breath 😮
Led Zeppelin and the Beatles also socialized together at times, which this video does not mention. The John Bonham - Paul McCartney friendship was the main catalyst that resulted in some gatherings of Led Zeppelin and some of the Beatles relaxing together. One such instance was a birthday party for Bonham, where 3 of the Beatles were invited. Lennon was not there, who was living in the USA.
Ringo criticizing John Bonham is so ridiculous Ringo wished he could play like that
I think “TheRain Song” opens with the same 2 chord intro that George used in “Something”
It does...purposely
@@juliemanarin4127 I know that
If you like catchy songs you admire the Beatles. If you want creative music some rock or blues you like Led Zeppelin.
@AppreciationClub24-n8e it was more about Genre's. The Beatles played Pop ,radio friendly songs of 3 to 4 minutes until the end were they experimented. Led Zeppelin weren't Pop. They were Rock, Blues and Prog. Led Zeppelin didn't go by the 3 to 4 minutes songs.
Slow down a bit mate, it sounds like your speech has no commas or full stops in it. That aside, interesting info.
He does seem to just "Ramble on" doesn't he? Lol
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Jealousy of Led Zeppelin amongst the biggest names (Clapton, Rolling Stones, Beatles) was big. Zeppelin took it to another level, plain and simple. They went huge and it worked. You don’t have to go there to make great music, and you risk making an ass of yourself, but Zep pulled it off incredibly.
I completely agree!
They stole almost everything
So did everyone else. Rock and roll was all stolen/adapted from blacks in the the American South.
@@EddieC3336Nonsense, only a few songs in their huge catalog are dubious. Led Zeppelin is still one of the greatest and most influential bands ever.
@HprFcs Even if 1 is dubious it makes them dubious also, there is a laundry list more, hell they stole Stairway from thier opening band, overturned in court but real musician's know, its note for note, Muddy Watters estate is suing, howling Wolf's estate is suing, Chuck Berry's estate is suing, I think they nicked more than a "few".
Axed?
I'm surprised I didn't hear a smoke detector chirping low battery in the background.
If you play your vinyl copy of Stairway to Heaven backwards, it will f/u your needle.
True, unless you install a DJ style cartridge which is designed for back cuing. But yes a typical phono cartridge is not designed for backwards rotation.
😂😂true
😂 and it says...nothing! Lol
@@juliemanarin4127 Obviously, you have never listened to Stairway backwards.
One thing that's true here is the Beatles were more about image and Zep was more about music. The Beatles were more of a pop band while Zep was a true rock band and the 2 had completely different types of music. For musical talent, Led Zep was superior to the Beatles and Ringo knocking Bonhams drumming is a joke as Ringo was an average ordinary and relatively unexciting drummer while Bonhams drumming was a lot more technically advanced. In any event, it all boils down to what you like. Some liked both bands just the same while others liked one or the other better.
Early in their career the Beatles were heavily imbedded with soul, blues and rock. When they hit big they were more poppy, then when they stopped touring, they went back to their rock/soul/blues roots and added different styles of writing to their collection, but…At their heart they were always a rock band, so to call them pop, well you seem to lack any real knowledge.
@@danduntz2539 And yet they were always referred to as a "pop combo" from the time they got big so yeah, my lack of knowledge as you say still tells me they were a pop band. Sorry if you think different.
This is just silly. Ill informed guff.
It's not about "true rock band" - it's about "true GREAT MUSIC"! Bach was not a "true rock band" but 300 yrs later he's downloaded more than 50% of rock stars that were hot just a decade ago!!! What made the Beatles so immortal is the QUALITY of music, not the STYLE of music (which is Led Zeppelin) - Style always wins today, quality always wins tomorrow......
huh??!!! Both bands were great....but the Beatles produced more creative, fascinating music & lyrics by far.....just list the songs written by each Beatle during their careers
zeppelin was innovative on every album. they widened the planets musical landscape with every release. z always innovative and original. the beatles did 3 minute 'diddies'. zeppelin had more musical talent than nearly any band thats ever played . its very clear.
Both bands were great…different, but great. They both carry the banner of rock proudly. Everyone has their preferences, but most fans of either band like the other too. It’s like the silly Stone vs The Beatles argument. Sure you can argue, but again I love both bands, but would pick The Beatles if I had to choose. Thank god we don’t!
Gotta say: if I had a Time Machine I’m going back to the MSG shows from Song Remains the Same over any Beatles show any day.
My favorite Zep song was Ramble On
There's no way to compare The Beatles, Zeppelin, The Who, The Rolling Stones...all fantastic but all different styles which is why they are all legendary
The Beatles came over first and seemed very candy rock early in the 60s...not my type of music and they just played on stage. Zeppelin were a DYNAMIC FORCE and NOBODY could touch them...studio ir especially live!! They are MAGNIFICENT!!
In truth, the Beatles music was far more complex than that of Led Zepplin. Itzhak Perlman, the great classical violinist had his children listen to 30 minutes of classical music and 30 minutes of the Beatles every day when he was teaching them music theory.
Ringo Starr has got a lot of nerve criticizing Bonzo, he wasnt a quarter of the drummer that Bonham was.
Dude, these guys are greats. They can criticise anyone they want
Ringo actually said Bonham was an incredible drummer. He's been taken out of context here. He was a good friend of Bonham and did not criticise him like it is portrayed here.
Talent =/= objectively perfect musical decisions... ?
For the Beatles he was.
You are right Ringo was the dollar
pretty sure "Thank you " is a ballad, guess george wasn't listening hard enough
apples and oranges, mate. I love em both
Both bands are in a league of their own but for different reasons. I do agree either Robert Plant in that while I love the Beatles I like their early music better.
Perfect!!!
zep is like what i listen to fighting a bear or running a marathon and the beatles is what I listen to when I'm reading abook or drinking coffee, or out for a walk.
Beatles best pop band
Led Zepp best rock band
The Beatles had lot shares in founding basic of the Modern Rock.
I see where you’re coming from but the beatles were not a pop band
Beatles were a bit of everything, they were really diverse and made many types of music.
Not really. Beatles were very diverse. So was zeppelin, although their style was more toward hard rock.
EXACTLY...
A comparison between Led Zeppelin and the Beatles is like a comment I heard someone say years ago - "Comparing apples and oranges? No, you're comparing apples and carburetors!"
I always use _apples and space shuttles._ 🙃
You DEFINITELY hear my ….on stairway . Page was a blatant worshipper and was heavily into Crowley even buying his house
I was ten years old in February of 1964 when the Beatles played on the Ed Sullivan show.I turne eleven that Aprill.
I was devastated when they split in 1970 because in addition to being a band,they were close friends.
I think the beginning of the end for them was in August 1967 when their manager,Brian Epstein died of a heroin overdose.
Quite simply,imho,the Beatles had lost their anchor.The guy who kept them grounded and moving in the right direction.
Comparing bands has always been stupid to me and is just something needed so critcs and magazjne writers have a job. Each great legendary band is so unique they cant be compared. Is Monet a better painter than Picasso? Their styles are completely different
LZ were for a new generation. And LZ gave them the sound they needed. If the 70's had a Beatles, it was Zeppelin.
The music of Led Zep and the Beatles were worlds apart yet in the 1970's their gross earnings from album and concert sales were just as impressive as the Beatles.
George didn’t question their ability - it was a joke - Jimmy Page put the first two notes of Something into the beginning of Rain Song as a tribute/joke back to George
Both bands are legendary .
Leave it alone.
Which is better, football or baseball?
Ringo could never keep up John Bohemian.
Would have been really cool if Zeppelin did Rock and roll circus.
The Beatles were the greatest Pop band ever. Led Zeppelin was The Greatest Rock Band ever.
Who cares what the fans did their their albums? Played them forward, played them backwards, didn't play them at all. As long as they bought them.
I wonder why he would be surprised that John liked "Stairway to Heaven"? I can readily see why John would be drawn to it.
LZ are the most band that got sued for plagiarism, many many times, Howlin Wolf,Muddy Watters, and stealing Stairway from thier opening band.
Beatles wrote the how to book for Rock n Roll groups. Note: everyone is impressed with Zep's playing ability. Slagging them is a Brit musician pasttime.
British bands are the best, and in no part because the USA gave us Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Buddy Holly, Eddie Chocrane, Elvis.... thankyou uncle Sam 🇺🇸
ASKED not AXED for shits sake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ringo criticised John Bonham!!!!!!! - 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Take these vids with a grain of salt. We hear no actual audio of them saying what they think, only what narrator says they thought
I'm not sure how accurate this video is. As far as I know McCartney nor Lennon ever commented publicly about Led Zeppelin. Harrison used to go to their shows early on. I don't know what Starr thought about them. There's nothing on record that I know of except that Bonham pickes Ringo up at a party and through him into tge swimming pool.
Lol!! Bonham thew Ringo into a pool?? THAT IS HILARIOUS!! 😂😂 Bonzo was a beast!!
@@juliemanarin4127 yea Ringo was interviewed a few years ago and joked about it. All those rockers knew each other back in those days.
Ringo criticizing anything about John goat Bonham is absolutely absurd. That’s like a finger painter criticizing Rembrandt.
"The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Pink Floyd are the single greatest band of all time. They are three, but they are one. They are one, in three bands. Simple!" That's what I replied when I was axed about it years ago by my barber.
Jimmy Page said that stairway to heaven was inspired by the leprechaun from Lucky charms
Axed? Asked. Slow down talking
The Beatles had better songs on the average, but Led Zeppelin had the better musicians.
Although each band had their moments in all areas
Two awesome bands. Music wouldn’t be what it is without them.
This new trned os pronouncing "aksed" is... amazing.
Please learn how to pronounce the word asked! You axed it three times in your video!
"Axed about"??
The Beatles were a pop band. Zeppelin were a rock band. Zepp were risk takers, improvising live EVERY night. Dangerous. Daring. Ringo plays it safe. No pinache. Same as Watts. Bonham was a beast, it was like he was setting off cannons
Beatles were the biggest risk takers. Lmao
ASKED NOT AXED
Is this narrator saying "aksed?" The word is 'asked.'
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Lots of folks being axed- how can folks answer when they’re being axed?
Great art shouldn’t be compared.
"And Paul is DEAD" Masterful from Page, Crowley would be proud
Really dude? That was the rumor that a Beatles song said backward Paul Is Dead...we were all talking about it. And you didn't know if it were true or not since in the 70s we had no internet...no computers...no cell phones to find out!
Led Zeppelin played other peoples music like stairway to heaven and a whole lotta love
Ok so what did Zeppelin think of the Beatles?
The fact is that the Beetles 🪲 are bugs and have a few decent tunes. Led Zeppelin are rock n blues geniuses and have nothing but great tunes😉
Hot dog?
@@cowboyfromhelI Another Zeps great tunes. Check it out🔊 🌭🎶🎸🥁
@@cowboyfromhelI Yeah, I don't know what they were thinkin' there.
It’s like comparing apples to bowling balls , no Beatles had the ability to compete with Pages musicianship They could of course compare and were slightly better at lyrics , the one fact the Beatles and stones and kinks and who , etc started in the pop dominated early 60s When rock and roll pioneers were gone and the teen idols started hitting the charts , and Page was part of that early 60s music Being a session man , after that the yardbirds. and they were not a pop oriented group then came cream , which opened up even more heavy music The similarities between comes in the fact that each band pushed the envelope, and where more diverse. with styles .
Beatles changed from period like the early middle to later , Zeppelin changed from album to album &…
And yet if you talk with classical musicians, the opinion about the Beatles musicianship is exactly the opposite. The great violinist Itzhak Perlman taught his children about music theory using classical music and the Beatles as foundational.
@@bb62bb62 it’s good for an urban legend, but as a musician my self , with the exception of Paul they were marginal, that’s not a put down , you don’t need to be a Beethoven to play pop music . John George and Ringo all talked about their limitations on their instruments, any classical motif’s would come from George Martin . Cheers
George hung out on tours with Zep
Billy Shears is decent though.
I never thought much of it untill I saw Billy Scheafers school picture🐸🍿same school as Paul.
Then when the French team examined his teeth💥🔨something is definitely amiss 👌
Billy Shears apparently was more talented than the real Paul McCartney. All the greatest songs were written in the "Shears" era lol. Honestly, I can't believe people still buy this conspiracy theory lol
@@andrewvincent7299 Explain Macca Memoirs of Billy shears which confirms it among other revelations
Beatles not a real rock band....they can' t play live no decent song. Ringo critizing Bonham......😂😂😂😂😂 . McCartney play all the drums in their records. Ringo stay in the band just for P R. Tbe worst drummer of all time....talking about "Moby Dick " solo....😂😂😂😂
They can't play live?????!!!!!!!!!! and talk about song writing..??? Whole lotta love???!!!! I personally love the song but it pales in comparison to anything written by the Beatles....it is like Wild Thing,
It is stupid to compare these two bands against each other let alone include the Rolling Stones in on this too. What we are really doing is turning music into sports contest [a Neanderthal approach to music]. They are all different bands, different genres and levels. Like comparing Mozart to Beethoven to Tchaikovsky to Gershwin to Duke Ellington to Miles Davis to Motown. if you don't know any of these composers or genres I mentioned you are musically ignorant. But it is not your fault...Thank you America for cutting music programs in school s first over everything else. You'll never see a weed growing in a football stadium. Music is an art, not a competition. We are also comparing musical preference with no analytical ground rules. From a retired music teacher.
So Billy is Satan? 🤣 i know about it, all the time.
What do Pink Lady apples think about gruyere cheeese I dont know or care but sod it they go down well together
ABBA was bigger than the Beatles.
nice joke or are you insane?
One has Nothing to do with the other
ive never been a beatles fan.
I recorded stairway on my fostex multi tracker and flipped the tape over and played it. Says oh sweet Satan very clearly.
Zeppelin didn't do lollipop music like the Beatles all four members of Zeppelin were much better than the Beatles and way better musicians personally the monkeys were just as good as the Beatles
Monkeys?? You just lost all credibility and this explains why your judgement is clouded...stay off drugs
Abbey Road, White Album, Sgt.Pepper lollipop music?🎉😂 ln Helter Skelter they played hard- rock before Led Zeppelin.
You should think before you write nonsense. The Beatles also inspired an entire era of rock musicians throughout the 60s.
Take a breath, for god's sake. Digital editing.
Come on Zep tules. Beetles would be nothing without the 5th member.
”The Beatles rarely played live”😮😅
Awful narration, punctuation serve the purpose of marking pauses for phrases or complete sentences. This sounds like one monotonous sentence. You or AI should do better!
Typical, appallingly researched statements regarding The Beatles. "The Beatles rarely performed live?"!!!
In their first 4 years of fame (1962 - 1966), they did approximately 300 live shows per year, plus radio series, 2 albums and 4 singles (per year!).
And, as producer Glyn Johns (who engineered a couple of Zeppelin albums, and whose brother, Andy, produced several Zeppelin albums) said, when he first played George, Mick Jagger and Pete Townsend the first Zeppelin album, they all hated it.
Should I go on? Because I could. Get your facts right.
Homemade video of someone else's opinions of Led Zeppelin.
Beatles were too until Strawberry fields lol
Both bands = Excellent Artists