@@asadchoudhry1927 First the overall audio was bad. Then the quality improved but only coming from the left side. Then that was fixed, also. What counts is the total content we got from this, and that was a lot.
I get it. She says things based on her expertise and understanding of the facts that run counter to the BS you decided to believe without any real inquiry and SHE is the one who is not to be believed.
Because no real lawyer can put his name on such lies. Cenk is presented as a 'political comentator' and that is all the level he brought to the debate - propaganda.
Cenk was only one saying anything of substance...Natasha was just rambling on about nothing of worth and perpetual gaslighting and defense of Israel--nauseating to be honest.
cenk get caught lying in front of professor. Cenk couldnt debunk israel stop figting for polio vaccination for 25% of the population. natasha is professional in telling the laws which are double standard to the israel. if UN Assembly can determine the statehood, and the Kurds' state Rojava and Taiwan still did not get recognition, then the only factor is that they have not enough friends to vote for them in UN. UN has proves itself as a political body when enough political benefits is given, then you can get a "state" not legal but through dirty political benefits exhange. PS: israel didn't form out of UN but British Mandate. In front of same opportunity, the arabs chose to gave up but the jews chose to grab it tightly. If the arabs were to agree to the partition, then there will be 2 states emerging from British Mandate not just israel.
Cenk is like self proclaim king without clothes. cenk get caught lying in front of professor. Cenk couldnt debunk israel stop figting for polio vaccination for 25% of the population. meanwhile, natasha is professional in telling the laws which are double standard to the israel. if UN Assembly can determine the statehood, and the Kurds' state Rojava and Taiwan still did not get recognition, then the only factor is that they have not enough friends to vote for them in UN. UN has proves itself as a political body when enough political benefits is given, then you can get a "state" not legal but through dirty political benefits exhange. PS: israel didn't form out of UN but British Mandate. In front of same opportunity, the arabs chose to gave up but the jews chose to grab it tightly. If the arabs were to agree to the partition, then there will be 2 states emerging from British Mandate not just israel.
let's guess his skin thickness... how come he has he audacity to put up all the false claims and be debunk by 2 Law Professors with proofs from UAE and ICJ statement? Natasha International Law expertise also caught him misrepresenting "proportionality" and educate him about the working principles of icj and icc
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla audacity? Is that what they are calling intellectual rigor these days? Yes..he challenged two Israel apologists--can you appreciate his view without appealing to authority?
@@Tourshi so you cant prove my statement wrong ? 1 prof proves cenk wrong on "Gxd" with UAE policy to coorperate with israel to give medical care to Gazans, the other Prof proves Cenk wrong on "Palestine statehood origin" using ICJ statement... tell which of the claim is wrong? Cenk himself also cannot defy what the Profs presented. That is why i say he has the audacity to lie in front expertise who did their research, he himself is just a speaker for the propagandas. btw you have not answer the thickness of skin he have for him to have such audacity
yet cenk caught lying by both Law Prof and Natasha hausdorff. He still have the audacity to repeat his lies eventhough being publicly debunked with facts. Just like a king without clothes still want to persuade others that he is wearing new fashion
@@maxx_thedragondominator Nobody has come up with intelligent responses to the defenders of Israel and Cenk is no exception. He was just spazing out over a completely imaginary scenario in which Israel routinely drops bombs on 29 innocent people to kill one terrorist. He was also pretending that there is some kind of righteous resistance to an occupation that doesn't even exist which justifies their hiding behind civilians.
Never deny your God given Common Sense on what is just or unjust. It is simply sad to “intellectually” justify one’s heartlessness by standing behind manmade legal technicalities and the self-exaltation of supposed good deeds all while killing the very innocent people which you provide aid. It is not a good example.
Exactly- if what this lady is saying is true, why doesn’t Israel present this evidence to the ICC for the world to see? Instead Israel opts for a technicality defence using jurisdiction- lol
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@@raywolff9886 It's funny, bc when Israel points out that Gaza has not been occupied since 2005, pro-palestinians resort to saying that Gaza was still 'technically' occupied since Israel controlled their air-space and borders (the Egyptian border aparently not-withstanding). Such children. You chose the path of lawfare, then complain when the laws don't go your way. Much like the Arabs always choosing war, then complaining when it doesnt go their way...
@@andrewm4767 More importantly, why did Israel BAN ALL FOREIGN MEDIA right at the beginning of their ground.offensive. If they had nothing to hide, why ban International media?
@satinlovegloveful she made strong points. She is clearly educated about the relevant law. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean she's "yapping".
Awesome cenk... cenk for standing with the oppressors of gazans, standing with aid thieves and brutal rap1$+ regime. Make the gazans poor for their mega tunnels projects. misuse the money for the comfort of the regimes (look at sinwar's wife and her 32k birkin bag) while not giving free poilio vaccines just like the israel gave to 25% of gazans population
@@canadaman3 Here's are some delusions for you: - That the arabs will ever realize their dream of destroying Israel. - That Hamas cares one tiny bit about their own civilians (with all their ability to build tunnels, they never considered building shelters for their civilians). - That the reason Egypt closed it's border to Palestinian refugees is bc they want to prevent ethnic cleansing. Hint: it's because, like Hamas, they knows that the best weapon they have against Israel is a maximized palestinian civilian death toll.
56:47 Turn on CC. That’s Luis Moreno Ocampo, the first Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court (ICC). He served from 2003 to 2012. Ocampo led the investigation into the Darfur conflict, which resulted in arrest warrants for Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir. He also prosecuted crimes in Uganda and the Democratic Republic of Congo. Ocampo's legal approach focused on gathering evidence and building cases for trials against individuals, not states. Here, he’s directly countering Natasha Hausdorff’s point on state sovereignty, pointing out that international law overrides sovereignty when it comes to mass atrocities. He’s applying the legal principle that the ICC has jurisdiction even if a nation doesn't agree to cooperate, as seen in his handling of Sudan’s refusal to cooperate.
THANKYOU for caring and providing CONTEXT. You are a warrior for all humanity. I applaud you for speaking up in the face of this atrocity. If 85% of people in the USA and other first world countries would get their news online bs watching NBC NIGHTLY 15 minutes then all commercials….and nothing on this genocide…..yet Russia steals kids to Russify them (still abhorrent) the entire first world outraged!!! With this genocide that is 1000 times worse it uh, we don’t know, uh yeah but October whatever the fuck date was our 911--abhorrent. I’m physically ill and posting everywhere to wake people up!
@@chopanjan lmao... Taqiyya is not the truth... constant agressor who pretends to be a victim is not real victim... Jihadists tried genociding Jews for the last 76 years at least...but because they are unsuccessful clowns like Cenk they are on a baby cry mode..!
Quran98/6 is what everyone should be sick of, after the footage from oct7. SahihBukhari2926, core islamic scriptures, commands to fight jews until the end of time when trees and rocks call out where they hide.
@greg6924 Biden claims to be a Christian Zionist. So he believes he needs to be on the side of Israel on everything. Trump has no such baggage. Even if the US recognises the annexation of the West Bank by Israel, EU would not. How long can the special relationship between Israel and the US last?
@@greg6924 that argument will remain necessary for as long as quran98/6 and sahihbukhari2926 are allowed to brainwash the populations of a 2billion people religion. Islamic CORE scripture was designed for the demise of all non-muslims, and for all time.
Thank you Cenk for having thick face to repeat the propagandas eventhough being caught providing false claims and debunked by both professors at least 3 times in 20 minutes.
because everyone from india to europe alot of asian counties south america all think islam is pretty extreme and dosent wanna help em after 1400 years of islam conquests and constant conflicts and when this fact is pointed out they label us Islamophobic......what a joke does christianphobic or hinduphobic exist?
LMAO please yudaism is the extreme and essential want to help that's why the world didn't accept yewish refugees they are torubke makers meanwhile Islam helped get world and Europe out of the dark ages Try again
and when you go and verify yourself dig into the legal terms and claims she laid out, you see truth. i fact check her everytime she speaks and i have not caught her lying. which line she said is false? proof it
She thinks approaching this debate as a lawyer will appeal to her audience... ah no. Children were killed but because some legal document justifies the genocide it is okay? In addition she actually talked down to her audience instead of addressing them as human beings capable of thought. Her condescending tone is so annoying. Israel is investigating itself (IDF) so that is the information we should refer to... ah no. Who gives a da*n what the IDF says, we want to hear from an unbiased third party. Also UK lawyers for Israel is not an unbiased third party and telling us the information is on YOUR website is not an unbiased source of information. Ludicrous.
@@BaphometicDescentNo Simpleton not Hamas. You people hide behind Hamas and the victimhood status. Pathetic. We have plenty of international media that want ro enter Gaza. Hamas gave their ok. Guess who didn't you dumb sh*thead
@@BaphometicDescent Who is speaking on behalf of Hamas? Are you that small minded and have such a lack of comprehension that you can't understand that the average Palestinian has nothing to do with Hamas. If you want to talk about people sipping the kool-aid you don't have to look any further than the extremist nut case leaders in Israel. When an Israeli person talks out against the actions and policies of their own gov't and that gov't actually labels them self-hating Jews it speaks volumes about that gov't.
Yeah even the word 'Semite' is being hijacked and misused. The Palestinians natives are the true descendants of Semite..not those bogus European 'jews'. DNA cannot lie...
Really? Israel was founded by Zionist terrorists said Einstein. The political party what we now know as Likud reminded him of fascism and Nazism of the Germans. Was Einstein ignorant ? Nah , you are. Like all Israels useful idiots. If you want someone lecture instead of Israeli hasbara lies I'm here
"You CAN trust the Israeli government. ...Because you OUGHT to trust the Israeli government .". WTF? What kinda lame logic is that!? Its logic for people with wodden brains.
I like how she spends most of her time arguing jurisdiction instead of whether or not the actual genocide is being committed. If the act is committed outside of criminal jurisdiction, that doesnt mean the act wasnt committed
No it's not. It hasn't been called Judea and Samaria for thousands of years. If we are going to start calling modern day areas by their ancient names then it should be called Canaan. @@os-cr1wf
This woman making weak arguments hurts her position. She is not making technical arguments to a judge. Her weak positions indicate that she has no strong argument.
because you dont understand legal terms. that's why. i feel refreshing when i hear she explain the misrepresentation of legal terms and the fundamental law that determines the borders of israel "uti possidetis juri" general law. She have detailed explanation about the current situation and the falsehood of media presenting facts, also when icj misuse its power throwing its principles into garbage bins. She also called out that ICJ and ICC make judgement based on false claims presented and not verify the misleading "evidence" before making official statements. She pointed out that UN is just a hall of politics where you can form a state as long as you give enough political benefits to enough members of UN. while Cenk just gave emotional empty statements that is not helpful.
Cenk is unbeatable in debtes >> his false claim debunked by all 3 people on stage. 1st Prof debunk him, stating that Palestine is not a legal state with ICJ statement as proof but Palestine is a product of radical ideologies and political bargains in UN to get UN votes. 2nf Prof debunk his "Gxde" claim by showing UAE get to give medical treatment to gazans with israel help and israel give free vaccines to 25% population which the hams gov didnt do throughout the 16 yrs. Natasha called him out for misrepresenting "proportionality" and schoolled him on the working principles of ICJ and ICC. Great work Cenk !
She's clearly a great lawyer, I'd have her represent me! I've no idea what her personal views are, but anyone who has access to any kind of non-Israeli media knows what's going on in Gaza and beyond.
lol she's a terrible lawyer, all she was doing was reciting the same Israeli talking points we see regurgitated again and again, how is that being a good lawyer?
Does she forget that one hospital where the IDF evicted all the staff and patients but forget to take the babies with them. 15 days later those babies were all found in the hospital and they had been left to whither away and die with no one there to care for them. If that doesn't horrify people what would!
@@OnlybyGrace-e57 The IDF kicked every person in the Hospital and told nurses that an Ambulance would be by to pick up the babies But the IDF simply left the babies about 15 to die . Heartbreaking!~
Natasha is the type of person who enters speech contests as a child, gets unconditional praise and applause by doting parents, gains confidence and then thinks that they can successfully white wash anything by using articulate speech. Her arguments can best be described as "Artfully articulated gibberish."
by having 2 professors calling out his lies about Gxde and statehood while at the same time natasha debunking him by explaining the "propotionality" and "self-authorization of arabs in Judea Sumeria and Gaza'
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla LOL cope harder. Those "professors" are liars themselves. Palestine is a state under occupation. Israel doesn't exist except as a terrorist organization
Feelings? Like religious zealous ideology on the right side of the screen? Lmfao. Human life is the most important value. If you've lost that- you're a lost cause.
israel recognises international law does not equal accept the icj ruling. ICJ itself state that ICJ dont have the right to rule over non member states like Israel and US. the 1st Prof has also stated clearly with the support of ICJ statement that according to law, "Palestine" never a state because it didnt fit into the criteria of a staet. there is no palestine. "Palestine" now is just a politcal product of benefits exchange and the gather of radical ideologies states to gain UN votes. This is why ICJ never have the right to rule over israel when israel is non member and Palestine is not a state (supported by the !st Prof claiming that it is ICJ statement). Taking Taiwan as example, Taiwan is more qualified to be a state but because of not enough political bargains to get UN members vote, Taiwan now didnt get regconition. Now the problem is ICJ dumped their protocol the ICJ set themselves, misused of power by President of ICJ (being accused by Uganda Vice President of ICJ) to target Israel. Israel has done more than required by the international law (refer to John Spencer, urban warfare analyst)
I wish Chenk had simply brought up the statements made by gallant and others, which very clearly describes genocidal intent by means of complete siege on food, electricity, water, medicine in order to make Gazza uninhabitable.; and don’t forget the comment about human animals and Amalek. How much more genocidal can you get than one of Israel’s early genocides of the Canaanites?
Look how Natasha is saying ICJ doesn’t have the jurisdiction to punish Israel for the genocide. But not denying committing it. Her only defence against genocide is, I was there once. There were other people in Gaza too. Like the doctors who reported kids getting headshots.
1st and 2nd prof already debunk cenk "Gxide" claim. there is not icj ruling that state there is Gxide in gaza (1st Prof). 2nd prof debunk cenk "Gxide" by showing UAE get to give medical aid to gazans with the help of israel and israel stop fighting to vaccinate 25% of the population (which is hams responsibilities over 16 yrs). 2nd Prof also catch Cenk purposely neglet the legal terms and misrepresenting "Gxide" definition. And here you are repeating the lies of cenk. Cenk himself couldn't even give a strong proof to defy both Profs when they caught him giving false claim about Gxide publicly 3 times. Maybe you dont have such a thick skin like cenk but maybe a brain with lesser neurons connected than cenk's brain.
its hard to believe how negatively cenk gets portrayed in the comment. i have never once heard cenk take a pro hamas stance, all he ever does is try to speak out against killing palestinian and israeli citizens. i dont think he needs me to say it, but please keep fighting for the lives of civilians cenk. your words will always fall on def ears, and yet, they need to be said.
Calling for no more killings on both sides is these days referred to as antisemitism. The media and most governments have been made to bend to these demands and they have obliged. + The world is full of easily manipulatable idiots.
that your imagination. she stood firm and caught cenk lies about "proportionality" schoolled him regarding the operation procedures of ICJ and ICC. She did well just like how she exposed medhi mirepresenting Balfour statement by labeling Balfour as antisemites eventhough Balfour statement is just pointing out the difference of ethnics groups in the society
Natasha Hausdorff's perspective is disconnected from the reality of the situation. When someone refuses to acknowledge the genuine grievances and suffering of people in Gaza, especially when it’s about issues like human rights and the quest for peace, it’s clear they’re missing the larger context. Instead of understanding the complexities and the legitimate frustrations, she seems to reduce it all to a simplistic and dangerous narrative, framing everything as part of a global anti-Jewish conspiracy. This kind of thinking ignores the calls for justice, peace, and an end to violence, which are shared by many who aren’t seeking bloodshed but a real solution to the conflict.
There is a fixation on the conflict that is obsessive. It receives a lot of media attention, the same situation with the partition of India. The Muslim minorities wish to rule themselves resulted in the creation of Pakistan. Of course the injustice that hindus feel after being ethnically cleansed from Pakistan is not as important as the Palestinians. That's unfair and it's a form of antisemitism. Palestinians can inherit their refugee status, most of the real refugees are already dead, that's crazy, why are Palestinians more important than other refugees? You guessed it, to prolong the conflict and punish the Jews.
@@IvorNovello112 A fixation on the conflict isn't necessarily obsessive; it reflects people coming together to solve a problem, which is a core part of human nature. When a conflict persists, it draws attention because it involves real lives, real struggles, and the need for resolution. When you think about it, conflict resolution isn't just about finding peace; it's about addressing the underlying issues that people can't move past. In this case, it’s not just about land or territory-it’s about identity, historical narratives, and deep-rooted emotions on all sides. The fixation exists because both Palestinians and Israelis see themselves as the rightful owners of the same land, and those feelings have been passed down through generations. Now, the comparison to the partition of India adds another layer to this. The creation of Pakistan was meant to establish a homeland for Muslims who felt they couldn’t live in a Hindu-majority India, just like the creation of Israel was for Jews who wanted a homeland after centuries of persecution. But in both cases, the establishment of new borders came with violence, displacement, and a legacy of unresolved grievances. It's a painful truth that both Hindus in Pakistan and Palestinians in Israel (and their descendants) continue to live with the scars of displacement. As for why the Palestinian situation seems to receive more attention, it’s complex. Some argue that the media and international organizations focus more on Palestine because of the power dynamics involved. Israel is often seen as the more powerful, Western-backed nation, while Palestinians are viewed as the underdog. This dynamic can create a narrative that attracts more sympathy for one side, especially when it’s framed as a David versus Goliath situation. However, the notion that the Palestinian cause is being used to “punish the Jews” is a point that requires careful unpacking. The tragic history of Jewish persecution and the establishment of Israel cannot be ignored, but it’s also crucial to recognize that the Palestinian people have endured hardship and displacement for decades, often through no fault of their own. The reality is that the conflict isn’t as simple as one side being "punished"; it’s a tangled web of historical grievances, territorial disputes, and competing national identities that have been manipulated by both internal and external forces. And regarding refugee status, yes, the fact that Palestinian refugees' descendants can inherit their status, unlike most refugees, is unique. But this isn’t about prioritizing Palestinians over others-it's a consequence of the unresolved nature of the conflict. Refugee status becomes a tool for perpetuating the narrative of displacement, rather than a clear path to integration or resolution. Meanwhile, other refugees around the world don’t have the same inherited status because their situations, while tragic, are often part of broader international refugee solutions, which do not focus on returning to the homeland as a primary goal. In the end, the focus on this conflict often feels disproportionate because it embodies so many global issues-colonialism, religion, nationalism, human rights-issues that continue to be relevant today. But that doesn’t mean the suffering of others should be overlooked. All refugees, whether Palestinian or otherwise, deserve the right to a future free from fear and uncertainty.
@@thesensiblestreamer2958 what do you think about the fact that Israel gets condemned 15-20 times a year? Russia and Iran who are serial human rights abusers receives criticism maybe 0-1 time a year. Is that a reflection of reality? You think the UN is biased and against the Jewish state or does that indicate something else? Israel is a democratic state and those countries are the opposite. If a Jew sets his fot in the Palestinian areas he will have his head chopped of becuase antisemitism is rampant in the Middle East. If a Palestinian need to go through a security check it’s apartheid
Debate footage starts at 12:05 I swear... I value my time.. ive been noticing this too from other live coverages.. ✌️🙏. P.s. your 12 minute intro eats up data. I dont really "talk words" in my videos.. but atleast i do "something" 🤘🥁🎶
Cenk you were amazing… 3 times get caught lying in 10 minutes by 2 profs and your lies are debunked with facts like ICJ statement and UAE-israel coorperation to help gazans by 2 profs. at the end you still have the audacity to repeat the debunked lies
@@SnoopyDanielsNo good explaining to him or her looks like a bloke but I had a peep at their page and he is so far left he is walking in circles, yup, too far unable to retrieve any sense
Man cenk is an intelligent person I would def hear what he has to say and most of the time it makes sense. Respect for doing ur job better than lots of these ppl
at about the 40 minute mark her body language tells me she knows she has not only lost the argument, but has begun to reanalyze her intellectual positions and employment options... im glad she is coming around. i hope enough do so as to end this genocide.
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The problem is that there are too many blind supporters of Palestine that make it seem like it's true even though it is not.
@@eveblot4195 which line which law which claim you said it is false? what is your proof to prove her claim is false? can you defy her claim with solid proof?
jsut becuse you can't debunk her claims and laws she stated, you attacked her and defame her. Dont be so low. tell the public, which sentence which term she ised is false?
bravo brother Cenk vey proud of you very well done. She has no heart no conscious and no feeling whatsoever of sympathy for human being and chidden massacre and genocide .
bravo brother Cenk vey proud of you very well done. you have successfully eaern the thickest face skin when you repeat the lies after your lies are debunked by 2 prof for 3 times in 10 minutes.
SahihBukhari2926 calls for believers to fight jews until rocks and trees call out where they hide. That's what's sick, the doctrine brainwashing the perpetrators on oct7
Am i the only person noticing that the "lawyer" constantly contradics herself? She doesnt see the icc and icj as valid courts but those are the only courts we have for international law. And she said israel does not agree to the icc and icj ergo we do not agree with international law and then she twists international law so far out of proportion to defend her point.
I’d hate to be laying wounded on the pavement, and asking for help, and having these lawyers argue about who has jurisdiction as to which hospital I should be sent to.
? which lies ? which line? cenk got caigh lying 3 times in 1o minutes by both Profs. guess how thick is his skin? maybe you should tell us how thick is your skin
I just read the human rights watch 154 page report entitled " Hopeless, Starving and Besieged' Israels Forced Displacement of Palestinians in Gaza which refutes all the lies about Israel being so moral and not purposefully committing displacement and genocide. I don't know what you mean how thick my skin is, but no it is not as thick as these lawyers who can defend the slaughter of children.
Cenk won. She lost. It’s very painful to listen to her as I see videos of starving people begging for water and food. Israel’s military calculated the minimum number of calories per day that Gaza Strip residents would need to avoid malnutrition during its embargo of goods into the territory from 2007 to 2010. According to documents, Israel calculated that Gazans on average needed 2,279 calories a day to survive. After subtracting for locally produced food and other factors, the document then estimated how many truckloads of food would be required to prevent malnutrition. Under the Israeli blockade, prior to October 7 they were already limiting their food so they only had enough to survive. Gaza was already in crisis. In 2022, 64.3% of Gaza's population was already classified as being moderately or severely food insecure, and 77% of residents reported that all of their family members had reduced the number of meals they consume per day. This was all purposely done by Israel. Now they are fully starving them! She sounds just like any other defense lawyer who has to defend a m’rdrer, knowing well that the person is in fact guilty of their crimes. Whether she likes it or not it’s just been made official: the UN special committee finds Israel's methods of war in Gaza consistent with G’nicide. Just wondering how she practices in a regular court, does she say the court is being biased because they don’t side with her particular client??
Lmao, Cenk was not even in the debate. The discussion was supposed to be about the legal Isues concerning the international court. Cenk who was out of his dept complitlt avoid the subject and instead used a string of strowman and outright lies. Any debater of high school level can tell you that Cenk wasn't even in the debate.
@@dh5142He made it clear that he’s not a lawyer. This was known prior to the agreement of the debate. That being said, I believe he did a good job of defending the truth. She, on the other hand, repeated the same arguments that we’ve been hearing over and over again for over a year now.
She's way out of his league, comes to a street fight with a fighter jet and Cenk is lost for words... He's perfect for TV, but that's her profession, turn him into ashes in her first minute... She's world class, they should have put someone of her standard
@dkhan9819 he made it clear that he was clueless about the subject. That doesn't make him any less clueless. It dese make him the loser of the debate. Cenc was the one leged man in a kick arse competition and you try to claim that he won? Next you will tell me that Hamas are winning....
Wow you have gotta be really far left to believe yourself it must be like a mental illness, to begin with do you know what the palestine hamas charter and MO is?? And mentioning the UN as if they are anything other than in the pockets of hamas hezbulla Iran, pretty much any of those organisations beginning with the letters UN are complicit in attacks against Israel as being their ammunition couriers
Was this done at the local Elementary School? Worst sound I've heard since 1983 on a worn out VHS tape.
Better sound starting at 9:27
Scroll down for transcript
@rosshole except the audio is only coming out of one side lol this must've been elementary school
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First the overall audio was bad. Then the quality improved but only coming from the left side. Then that was fixed, also. What counts is the total content we got from this, and that was a lot.
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@rosshole if no audio then there is no transcript
Does anyone believe anything coming out of her mouth? So shameful.
nothing
hundreds of years, nothing will change.
I get it. She says things based on her expertise and understanding of the facts that run counter to the BS you decided to believe without any real inquiry and SHE is the one who is not to be believed.
@@gheller2261 she's completely full of shit. Like all Zionazi bots.
She is too beautiful to tell lies 😂
Cenk did a good job, but why didn't they get a fellow lawyer to debate Natasha, given how important legal issues were in the debate?
cenk did go to law school
Because no real lawyer can put his name on such lies. Cenk is presented as a 'political comentator' and that is all the level he brought to the debate - propaganda.
Cenk passed the Bar.
why are they broadcasting this without microphones?
Cenk was only one saying anything of substance...Natasha was just rambling on about nothing of worth and perpetual gaslighting and defense of Israel--nauseating to be honest.
cenk get caught lying in front of professor. Cenk couldnt debunk israel stop figting for polio vaccination for 25% of the population. natasha is professional in telling the laws which are double standard to the israel. if UN Assembly can determine the statehood, and the Kurds' state Rojava and Taiwan still did not get recognition, then the only factor is that they have not enough friends to vote for them in UN. UN has proves itself as a political body when enough political benefits is given, then you can get a "state" not legal but through dirty political benefits exhange.
PS: israel didn't form out of UN but British Mandate. In front of same opportunity, the arabs chose to gave up but the jews chose to grab it tightly. If the arabs were to agree to the partition, then there will be 2 states emerging from British Mandate not just israel.
Cenk is like self proclaim king without clothes. cenk get caught lying in front of professor. Cenk couldnt debunk israel stop figting for polio vaccination for 25% of the population.
meanwhile, natasha is professional in telling the laws which are double standard to the israel. if UN Assembly can determine the statehood, and the Kurds' state Rojava and Taiwan still did not get recognition, then the only factor is that they have not enough friends to vote for them in UN. UN has proves itself as a political body when enough political benefits is given, then you can get a "state" not legal but through dirty political benefits exhange.
PS: israel didn't form out of UN but British Mandate. In front of same opportunity, the arabs chose to gave up but the jews chose to grab it tightly. If the arabs were to agree to the partition, then there will be 2 states emerging from British Mandate not just israel.
let's guess his skin thickness... how come he has he audacity to put up all the false claims and be debunk by 2 Law Professors with proofs from UAE and ICJ statement? Natasha International Law expertise also caught him misrepresenting "proportionality" and educate him about the working principles of icj and icc
@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla audacity? Is that what they are calling intellectual rigor these days? Yes..he challenged two Israel apologists--can you appreciate his view without appealing to authority?
@@Tourshi so you cant prove my statement wrong ? 1 prof proves cenk wrong on "Gxd" with UAE policy to coorperate with israel to give medical care to Gazans, the other Prof proves Cenk wrong on "Palestine statehood origin" using ICJ statement... tell which of the claim is wrong? Cenk himself also cannot defy what the Profs presented. That is why i say he has the audacity to lie in front expertise who did their research, he himself is just a speaker for the propagandas. btw you have not answer the thickness of skin he have for him to have such audacity
The IDF arguments never get better no matter who argues them.
yet cenk caught lying by both Law Prof and Natasha hausdorff. He still have the audacity to repeat his lies eventhough being publicly debunked with facts. Just like a king without clothes still want to persuade others that he is wearing new fashion
@@maxx_thedragondominator
Nobody has come up with intelligent responses to the defenders of Israel and Cenk is no exception. He was just spazing out over a completely imaginary scenario in which Israel routinely drops bombs on 29 innocent people to kill one terrorist. He was also pretending that there is some kind of righteous resistance to an occupation that doesn't even exist which justifies their hiding behind civilians.
Never deny your God given Common Sense on what is just or unjust. It is simply sad to “intellectually” justify one’s heartlessness by standing behind manmade legal technicalities and the self-exaltation of supposed good deeds all while killing the very innocent people which you provide aid. It is not a good example.
Exactly- if what this lady is saying is true, why doesn’t Israel present this evidence to the ICC for the world to see? Instead Israel opts for a technicality defence using jurisdiction- lol
@@raywolff9886 It's funny, bc when Israel points out that Gaza has not been occupied since 2005, pro-palestinians resort to saying that Gaza was still 'technically' occupied since Israel controlled their air-space and borders (the Egyptian border aparently not-withstanding).
Such children. You chose the path of lawfare, then complain when the laws don't go your way. Much like the Arabs always choosing war, then complaining when it doesnt go their way...
@@andrewm4767 More importantly, why did Israel BAN ALL FOREIGN MEDIA right at the beginning of their ground.offensive. If they had nothing to hide, why ban International media?
Oh my gosh, I was expecting the lawyer to put up a defense, but defending the devil himself is no easy task. 😂😂
She is supposed to be the best Israel as to offer, an international expert. And all she could muster was "everyone is anti-semitic".
@@byronlovelace8379 you are showing how simple you brain is.
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla and you just showed how simple yours is.
@@byronlovelace8379 low class to defame someone when you cant prove which ilne which law which claim she presented is false
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla Stop crying and move on
I normally don’t leave comments but she is so pathetic and heartless with her British accent and cold rationalism I just can’t watch it any longer
Her accent is hot.
As a Brit, I don’t care for your jealous racism.
Wow. Cenk got destroyed. Like watching a highschool physics student debate a PhD in astrophysics
Sounds like she is an expert in yapping
@satinlovegloveful she made strong points. She is clearly educated about the relevant law. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean she's "yapping".
Her false position is exposed by all the horror we see, all we know of the State of Israel's cruel history since its founding.
Sorry..Cenk..you are silly parasite.
All jihadists is going to the hell!!
write it on TH-cam: FULL REPORT - 'Hamas Hurt Us, Killed us' : Unfiltered Gazans Speak Out
THANK YOU CENK GOD BLESS YOUR HEART
Was the audio recorded from a lunch box?
This lady is crazy. She really thinks we are stupid sad 😢😢😢😢
Natasha knows more international law than anyone on this planet. And she cares about her people, which I'm a part of.
@@mattnewhouse1781anyone who still supports Israel at this point is definitely a Hitler like nazi. Israel is a cancer.
The only nazi I see here is you@@nikita-dh5je
@@mattnewhouse1781this woman is a disgusting human being.
@@mattnewhouse1781 you are both genocide deniers. That's about the worst kind of human you could possibly be. Congrats on being an absolute dirtbag.
It's been proven by multiple sources that most of Cenks arguments are infact true.
Sorry..Cenk..you are silly parasite.
All jihadists is going to the hell!!
write it on TH-cam: FULL REPORT - 'Hamas Hurt Us, Killed us' : Unfiltered Gazans Speak Out
She think her accent and articulation makes her right😅
Awesome Cenk...Thank you. Occupation needs to stop!
Awesome cenk... cenk for standing with the oppressors of gazans, standing with aid thieves and brutal rap1$+ regime. Make the gazans poor for their mega tunnels projects. misuse the money for the comfort of the regimes (look at sinwar's wife and her 32k birkin bag) while not giving free poilio vaccines just like the israel gave to 25% of gazans population
This Lawyer is sooooo full of herself. Nice work dismantling her arguments and putting her in a box. APPLAUSE!!!
Lets talk more about her box please
The lawyer appeals to facts and laws. Cenk appeals to emotion.
You appeal to the blood of innocent children
she has definitely appealed to my emotions 😂
LOL. You my friend appeal to delusion.
Incomplete facts.
@@canadaman3 Here's are some delusions for you:
- That the arabs will ever realize their dream of destroying Israel.
- That Hamas cares one tiny bit about their own civilians (with all their ability to build tunnels, they never considered building shelters for their civilians).
- That the reason Egypt closed it's border to Palestinian refugees is bc they want to prevent ethnic cleansing. Hint: it's because, like Hamas, they knows that the best weapon they have against Israel is a maximized palestinian civilian death toll.
56:47 Turn on CC. That’s Luis Moreno Ocampo, the first Prosecutor at the International Criminal Court (ICC). He served from 2003 to 2012. Ocampo led the investigation into the Darfur conflict, which resulted in arrest warrants for Sudanese President Omar al-Bashir. He also prosecuted crimes in Uganda and the Democratic Republic of Congo. Ocampo's legal approach focused on gathering evidence and building cases for trials against individuals, not states. Here, he’s directly countering Natasha Hausdorff’s point on state sovereignty, pointing out that international law overrides sovereignty when it comes to mass atrocities. He’s applying the legal principle that the ICC has jurisdiction even if a nation doesn't agree to cooperate, as seen in his handling of Sudan’s refusal to cooperate.
THANKYOU for caring and providing CONTEXT. You are a warrior for all humanity. I applaud you for speaking up in the face of this atrocity. If 85% of people in the USA and other first world countries would get their news online bs watching NBC NIGHTLY 15 minutes then all commercials….and nothing on this genocide…..yet Russia steals kids to Russify them (still abhorrent) the entire first world outraged!!! With this genocide that is 1000 times worse it uh, we don’t know, uh yeah but October whatever the fuck date was our 911--abhorrent. I’m physically ill and posting everywhere to wake people up!
She thought she could go against the truth! She got intelligently decimated! TRUTH STANDS OUT ALWAYS! she is lawyer…. sorry a liar!
Sorry..Cenk..you are silly parasite.
All jihadists is going to the hell!!
@@chopanjan lmao... Taqiyya is not the truth... constant agressor who pretends to be a victim is not real victim... Jihadists tried genociding Jews for the last 76 years at least...but because they are unsuccessful clowns like Cenk they are on a baby cry mode..!
Anyone else's video stop working near the end?
Go Cenk!
write it on TH-cam: FULL REPORT - 'Hamas Hurt Us, Killed us' : Unfiltered Gazans Speak Out
Rest of the world is not buying it. They’re sick of it.
who are you to represent the rest of the world? are you Allah?
@genel6830 The world always hated Israel and for the 2 billion Muslims around the world Israel is guilty until proven guilty
@genel6830 The rest of the world has always hated the jews and scapegoat the jews but we in America will support Israel
Do you want a list of Islamic terrorist attack for the past 20 years?
Quran98/6 is what everyone should be sick of, after the footage from oct7. SahihBukhari2926, core islamic scriptures, commands to fight jews until the end of time when trees and rocks call out where they hide.
She’s an insufferable ideologue.
she's turned this from a legal debate into another stage for their lies.
😮 Damn she dropped blood libel in less than 60 seconds. I can already see where her argument is going.
She is a lawyer. So she lost to Cenk.
They are a desperate lot. Busting out the tired anti Semitic argument.
@greg6924 Biden claims to be a Christian Zionist. So he believes he needs to be on the side of Israel on everything. Trump has no such baggage. Even if the US recognises the annexation of the West Bank by Israel, EU would not. How long can the special relationship between Israel and the US last?
@@greg6924 that argument will remain necessary for as long as quran98/6 and sahihbukhari2926 are allowed to brainwash the populations of a 2billion people religion. Islamic CORE scripture was designed for the demise of all non-muslims, and for all time.
I appreciate your stellar performance and your engagement for the Palestinians, Cenk❤
Thank you Cenk for having thick face to repeat the propagandas eventhough being caught providing false claims and debunked by both professors at least 3 times in 20 minutes.
They'll call you an anti-semite but never a liar...
because everyone from india to europe alot of asian counties south america all think islam is pretty extreme and dosent wanna help em after 1400 years of islam conquests and constant conflicts and when this fact is pointed out they label us Islamophobic......what a joke does christianphobic or hinduphobic exist?
You're a liar
@@yyr6010 no you are
LMAO please yudaism is the extreme and essential want to help that's why the world didn't accept yewish refugees they are torubke makers meanwhile Islam helped get world and Europe out of the dark ages
Try again
Thank you cenk 4 challenging this liar
This woman started the talking-Point Crazy-Talk, from the get-go. She spoke a Legal Word Salad, in an attempt to sound Authoritative.
and when you go and verify yourself dig into the legal terms and claims she laid out, you see truth. i fact check her everytime she speaks and i have not caught her lying. which line she said is false? proof it
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla Fact check your English first. It's atrocious 🤣.
@@sherlockhomie6062 so you cant deny that i said her claims are valid? thanks for not objecting
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla did not fact checked 😂 GTFOH
Because yur mind is too simple to K0mprehend.
She thinks approaching this debate as a lawyer will appeal to her audience... ah no. Children were killed but because some legal document justifies the genocide it is okay? In addition she actually talked down to her audience instead of addressing them as human beings capable of thought. Her condescending tone is so annoying. Israel is investigating itself (IDF) so that is the information we should refer to... ah no. Who gives a da*n what the IDF says, we want to hear from an unbiased third party. Also UK lawyers for Israel is not an unbiased third party and telling us the information is on YOUR website is not an unbiased source of information. Ludicrous.
I'm 99.99% sure this debate was setup for a law school
unbiased party like Hamas? you're only supposed to take a sip of kool-aid, not dunk your entire head in the pitcher.
@@BaphometicDescentNo Simpleton not Hamas. You people hide behind Hamas and the victimhood status. Pathetic. We have plenty of international media that want ro enter Gaza. Hamas gave their ok. Guess who didn't you dumb sh*thead
@@BaphometicDescent Who is speaking on behalf of Hamas? Are you that small minded and have such a lack of comprehension that you can't understand that the average Palestinian has nothing to do with Hamas.
If you want to talk about people sipping the kool-aid you don't have to look any further than the extremist nut case leaders in Israel. When an Israeli person talks out against the actions and policies of their own gov't and that gov't actually labels them self-hating Jews it speaks volumes about that gov't.
Whenever you criticize or disagree with Israel it's considered "antisemitism"
How did we get here?
Yeah even the word 'Semite' is being hijacked and misused. The Palestinians natives are the true descendants of Semite..not those bogus European 'jews'. DNA cannot lie...
How can such an important debate have such poor audio set up?
This woman is a ghoul. A monster. A vile, diagusting liar.
Bc0z yu g0t n0thing to argue abt. Yu can 0nly label her.
Relax, hysterical woman.
@@orphaotheseeker2770 this W0man wh0 keecked Mehdi azzzz during the debate
Yep, horrible person.
defame someoen you dont like when you cannot prove her wrong. Low class tactics
Hey Chenk I have to hand it for you for agreeing to debate her, which really highlighted your absolute ignorance
Really? Israel was founded by Zionist terrorists said Einstein. The political party what we now know as Likud reminded him of fascism and Nazism of the Germans. Was Einstein ignorant ? Nah , you are. Like all Israels useful idiots. If you want someone lecture instead of Israeli hasbara lies I'm here
She was smoked. She basically argued, " Dont believe your eyes. Believe my words."
exactly
"You CAN trust the Israeli government. ...Because you OUGHT to trust the Israeli government .". WTF? What kinda lame logic is that!? Its logic for people with wodden brains.
I like how she spends most of her time arguing jurisdiction instead of whether or not the actual genocide is being committed.
If the act is committed outside of criminal jurisdiction, that doesnt mean the act wasnt committed
Immediately she says "Judea and Samaria" you know she's a zio-looney.
So thats not the name of the erea?
Judea is the place where Jews originated. Judea Sumeria is a better name rather than calling west bank which refer to west part of Jordan.
The first Jews came from Canaan alongside many other ethnic groups.
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla
No it's not. It hasn't been called Judea and Samaria for thousands of years. If we are going to start calling modern day areas by their ancient names then it should be called Canaan. @@os-cr1wf
@@kairo007 oh where the israelits where.. so u also say palestine was never a country👍
This woman making weak arguments hurts her position. She is not making technical arguments to a judge. Her weak positions indicate that she has no strong argument.
This woman, maked me sleepy 🥴😵
Yes, So Boring.
@heidi9547 traying to convince with articles that only she knows 🥴
because you dont understand legal terms. that's why. i feel refreshing when i hear she explain the misrepresentation of legal terms and the fundamental law that determines the borders of israel "uti possidetis juri" general law. She have detailed explanation about the current situation and the falsehood of media presenting facts, also when icj misuse its power throwing its principles into garbage bins. She also called out that ICJ and ICC make judgement based on false claims presented and not verify the misleading "evidence" before making official statements. She pointed out that UN is just a hall of politics where you can form a state as long as you give enough political benefits to enough members of UN. while Cenk just gave emotional empty statements that is not helpful.
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxlaThe only reason Israel exists is because they bribed the UN.
She did horribly. The appeals to emotion and higher authority only work if we don’t have social media to see the carnage for ourselves.
Cenk is unbeatable in debtes
Great work Cenk !
To people with very low IQs who think only with their emotions.
He’s the best.
Cenk is a true leader. I’d follow this guy into a battle any day.
@@Daniebraids
Wow well done Daniel. You can spell. And write!!?
Well done (Pat Pat)
@@DaniebraidsGreat argument
Cenk is unbeatable in debtes >> his false claim debunked by all 3 people on stage. 1st Prof debunk him, stating that Palestine is not a legal state with ICJ statement as proof but Palestine is a product of radical ideologies and political bargains in UN to get UN votes. 2nf Prof debunk his "Gxde" claim by showing UAE get to give medical treatment to gazans with israel help and israel give free vaccines to 25% population which the hams gov didnt do throughout the 16 yrs. Natasha called him out for misrepresenting "proportionality" and schoolled him on the working principles of ICJ and ICC.
Great work Cenk !
She's clearly a great lawyer, I'd have her represent me! I've no idea what her personal views are, but anyone who has access to any kind of non-Israeli media knows what's going on in Gaza and beyond.
She literally did an hour plus debate explaining her views. What did you think you’re commenting on?
@RefactoringRyan lawyers represent clients and the wishes of their clients whose ideas or agendas may not necessarily be in line with their own.
lol she's a terrible lawyer, all she was doing was reciting the same Israeli talking points we see regurgitated again and again, how is that being a good lawyer?
Does she forget that one hospital where the IDF evicted all the staff and patients but forget to take the babies with them. 15 days later those babies were all found in the hospital and they had been left to whither away and die with no one there to care for them. If that doesn't horrify people what would!
Who would run off and leave babies behind?
@@OnlybyGrace-e57 The IDF kicked every person in the Hospital and told nurses that an Ambulance would be by to pick up the babies But the IDF simply left the babies about 15 to die . Heartbreaking!~
Remember guys the earth was created on oct 7 dont play fool pretending otherwise
I literally cannot believe she's serious lmaooooooo
Natasha is the type of person who enters speech contests as a child, gets unconditional praise and applause by doting parents, gains confidence and then thinks that they can successfully white wash anything by using articulate speech. Her arguments can best be described as "Artfully articulated gibberish."
She was very precise with basically everything, by paragraphs. Cenks to-go is "thats ridiculous!
@@jeremieerikssonlefebvre2647 both states must exist for either to be legitimate
She crushed cenk
@@viciousmindzentertainment9307 Not how anything in state founding works.
@@viciousmindzentertainment9307Jordan is Palestine
Cenk won
by having 2 professors calling out his lies about Gxde and statehood while at the same time natasha debunking him by explaining the "propotionality" and "self-authorization of arabs in Judea Sumeria and Gaza'
won by getting most of his false claim debunk publicly by the 2 Profs
@@ultramegaManV i like cenk but he lost this hard. He came with takling points, he should not date this issue anymore
That's only because you have the inability to see through your own bias
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla LOL cope harder. Those "professors" are liars themselves. Palestine is a state under occupation. Israel doesn't exist except as a terrorist organization
On the left side of your screen: Feelings.
On the right side of your screen: Facts.
Feelings? Like religious zealous ideology on the right side of the screen? Lmfao. Human life is the most important value. If you've lost that- you're a lost cause.
in front of me words of a non-intelligent person
@@anaskaid5450 Thinking out loud as you were reading your own words? 😉
Like the fact she kept denying numbers including idf ones LOLLLL
At this point its laughable. Who actually believe the IDF is the most moral military in history...
Everyone who has bothered to look at the actual evidence.
@@davethebrahman9870 look! a penny!
name a country who sides with Islamic ones cause it seems there on there own after the 1400s years of Islamic conquests on other people
@@davethebrahman9870you said that to say what? 🤔
@@davethebrahman9870 I can smell you from here "Dave".
Israel recognises international law? So they accept the icj ruling?
You mean the one with "not entering Rafah"? You do realise that Sinwar was ki**ed in Rafah right? 😅
israel recognises international law does not equal accept the icj ruling. ICJ itself state that ICJ dont have the right to rule over non member states like Israel and US. the 1st Prof has also stated clearly with the support of ICJ statement that according to law, "Palestine" never a state because it didnt fit into the criteria of a staet. there is no palestine. "Palestine" now is just a politcal product of benefits exchange and the gather of radical ideologies states to gain UN votes. This is why ICJ never have the right to rule over israel when israel is non member and Palestine is not a state (supported by the !st Prof claiming that it is ICJ statement). Taking Taiwan as example, Taiwan is more qualified to be a state but because of not enough political bargains to get UN members vote, Taiwan now didnt get regconition.
Now the problem is ICJ dumped their protocol the ICJ set themselves, misused of power by President of ICJ (being accused by Uganda Vice President of ICJ) to target Israel.
Israel has done more than required by the international law (refer to John Spencer, urban warfare analyst)
Cenk, you are the BEST. How many other news networks can go and debate like this. This is why i live TYT ❤❤❤❤
Didn't you get the memo.
Red hearts are now a symbol of the Right.
💙 Left
❤️ Right
@@jackkanoff6265bla bla bla go away zionist
😂😂😂😂😂 he is the best joke on u tube😂😂😂😂
@@jackkanoff6265 get a life
@@os-cr1wf u mad because he is not like the rest of pro zionists 🤣
I wish Chenk had simply brought up the statements made by gallant and others, which very clearly describes genocidal intent by means of complete siege on food, electricity, water, medicine in order to make Gazza uninhabitable.; and don’t forget the comment about human animals and Amalek. How much more genocidal can you get than one of Israel’s early genocides of the Canaanites?
Look how Natasha is saying ICJ doesn’t have the jurisdiction to punish Israel for the genocide. But not denying committing it. Her only defence against genocide is, I was there once. There were other people in Gaza too. Like the doctors who reported kids getting headshots.
1st and 2nd prof already debunk cenk "Gxide" claim. there is not icj ruling that state there is Gxide in gaza (1st Prof). 2nd prof debunk cenk "Gxide" by showing UAE get to give medical aid to gazans with the help of israel and israel stop fighting to vaccinate 25% of the population (which is hams responsibilities over 16 yrs).
2nd Prof also catch Cenk purposely neglet the legal terms and misrepresenting "Gxide" definition. And here you are repeating the lies of cenk. Cenk himself couldn't even give a strong proof to defy both Profs when they caught him giving false claim about Gxide publicly 3 times. Maybe you dont have such a thick skin like cenk but maybe a brain with lesser neurons connected than cenk's brain.
its hard to believe how negatively cenk gets portrayed in the comment. i have never once heard cenk take a pro hamas stance, all he ever does is try to speak out against killing palestinian and israeli citizens. i dont think he needs me to say it, but please keep fighting for the lives of civilians cenk. your words will always fall on def ears, and yet, they need to be said.
Calling for no more killings on both sides is these days referred to as antisemitism. The media and most governments have been made to bend to these demands and they have obliged. + The world is full of easily manipulatable idiots.
Cenk logic; US killed more than ISIS, therfore we are worse than ISIS.
he is at best a clown.
Doesn't even sound like she believes what she's saying
that your imagination. she stood firm and caught cenk lies about "proportionality" schoolled him regarding the operation procedures of ICJ and ICC. She did well just like how she exposed medhi mirepresenting Balfour statement by labeling Balfour as antisemites eventhough Balfour statement is just pointing out the difference of ethnics groups in the society
She came to collect her pay check for the debate and leave.
The cognizant dissociation is real.
Natasha Hausdorff's perspective is disconnected from the reality of the situation. When someone refuses to acknowledge the genuine grievances and suffering of people in Gaza, especially when it’s about issues like human rights and the quest for peace, it’s clear they’re missing the larger context. Instead of understanding the complexities and the legitimate frustrations, she seems to reduce it all to a simplistic and dangerous narrative, framing everything as part of a global anti-Jewish conspiracy. This kind of thinking ignores the calls for justice, peace, and an end to violence, which are shared by many who aren’t seeking bloodshed but a real solution to the conflict.
There is a fixation on the conflict that is obsessive. It receives a lot of media attention, the same situation with the partition of India. The Muslim minorities wish to rule themselves resulted in the creation of Pakistan. Of course the injustice that hindus feel after being ethnically cleansed from Pakistan is not as important as the Palestinians. That's unfair and it's a form of antisemitism. Palestinians can inherit their refugee status, most of the real refugees are already dead, that's crazy, why are Palestinians more important than other refugees? You guessed it, to prolong the conflict and punish the Jews.
@@IvorNovello112 A fixation on the conflict isn't necessarily obsessive; it reflects people coming together to solve a problem, which is a core part of human nature. When a conflict persists, it draws attention because it involves real lives, real struggles, and the need for resolution. When you think about it, conflict resolution isn't just about finding peace; it's about addressing the underlying issues that people can't move past. In this case, it’s not just about land or territory-it’s about identity, historical narratives, and deep-rooted emotions on all sides. The fixation exists because both Palestinians and Israelis see themselves as the rightful owners of the same land, and those feelings have been passed down through generations.
Now, the comparison to the partition of India adds another layer to this. The creation of Pakistan was meant to establish a homeland for Muslims who felt they couldn’t live in a Hindu-majority India, just like the creation of Israel was for Jews who wanted a homeland after centuries of persecution. But in both cases, the establishment of new borders came with violence, displacement, and a legacy of unresolved grievances. It's a painful truth that both Hindus in Pakistan and Palestinians in Israel (and their descendants) continue to live with the scars of displacement.
As for why the Palestinian situation seems to receive more attention, it’s complex. Some argue that the media and international organizations focus more on Palestine because of the power dynamics involved. Israel is often seen as the more powerful, Western-backed nation, while Palestinians are viewed as the underdog. This dynamic can create a narrative that attracts more sympathy for one side, especially when it’s framed as a David versus Goliath situation.
However, the notion that the Palestinian cause is being used to “punish the Jews” is a point that requires careful unpacking. The tragic history of Jewish persecution and the establishment of Israel cannot be ignored, but it’s also crucial to recognize that the Palestinian people have endured hardship and displacement for decades, often through no fault of their own. The reality is that the conflict isn’t as simple as one side being "punished"; it’s a tangled web of historical grievances, territorial disputes, and competing national identities that have been manipulated by both internal and external forces.
And regarding refugee status, yes, the fact that Palestinian refugees' descendants can inherit their status, unlike most refugees, is unique. But this isn’t about prioritizing Palestinians over others-it's a consequence of the unresolved nature of the conflict. Refugee status becomes a tool for perpetuating the narrative of displacement, rather than a clear path to integration or resolution. Meanwhile, other refugees around the world don’t have the same inherited status because their situations, while tragic, are often part of broader international refugee solutions, which do not focus on returning to the homeland as a primary goal.
In the end, the focus on this conflict often feels disproportionate because it embodies so many global issues-colonialism, religion, nationalism, human rights-issues that continue to be relevant today. But that doesn’t mean the suffering of others should be overlooked. All refugees, whether Palestinian or otherwise, deserve the right to a future free from fear and uncertainty.
@@thesensiblestreamer2958 what do you think about the fact that Israel gets condemned 15-20 times a year? Russia and Iran who are serial human rights abusers receives criticism maybe 0-1 time a year. Is that a reflection of reality? You think the UN is biased and against the Jewish state or does that indicate something else? Israel is a democratic state and those countries are the opposite. If a Jew sets his fot in the Palestinian areas he will have his head chopped of becuase antisemitism is rampant in the Middle East. If a Palestinian need to go through a security check it’s apartheid
Not sure what that woman was talking about.
Not surprised.
She sounds like her life has been spent behind a desk and a podium.
Debate footage starts at 12:05
I swear... I value my time.. ive been noticing this too from other live coverages..
✌️🙏. P.s. your 12 minute intro eats up data. I dont really "talk words" in my videos.. but atleast i do "something"
🤘🥁🎶
16:20. See... I already lost.. before the rules were set in that debate I already commented here..
😂. Hilarious. Welp. I'm outta here. ✌️
Cenk you were amazing… thank you for caring enough to make these important facts spoken every chance you can.. 🙏
Cenk you were amazing… 3 times get caught lying in 10 minutes by 2 profs and your lies are debunked with facts like ICJ statement and UAE-israel coorperation to help gazans by 2 profs. at the end you still have the audacity to repeat the debunked lies
I would ask how does she even sleep at night.....but its probably on a pile of money.
She sleeps fine because there is no genocide going on. Cenk is a clown who doesn't know what he's talking about.
@@SnoopyDanielsNo good explaining to him or her looks like a bloke but I had a peep at their page and he is so far left he is walking in circles, yup, too far unable to retrieve any sense
Man cenk is an intelligent person I would def hear what he has to say and most of the time it makes sense. Respect for doing ur job better than lots of these ppl
This lawyer is clown 🤡
She's brilliant 👏
What the F is Natasha on about.
It is about yu can't win the I-DEE-F.
@@2589003 Are you ok? it’s seems like you are having a stroke. Did IDF washed your brain too many times?
International law, that's what she does, but Cenk is so lost
@@Crystal-yn9qb It’s a logical fallacy called argument from authority. Just because a lawyer say it doesn’t make it true.
Even the devil will be awed by the lies from this woman. So shameless and pathetic
at about the 40 minute mark her body language tells me she knows she has not only lost the argument, but has begun to reanalyze her intellectual positions and employment options...
im glad she is coming around. i hope enough do so as to end this genocide.
The problem is that there are too many blind supporters of Palestine that make it seem like it's true even though it is not.
USA only lets israel do all this BS cause they look white and sounds white facts... if they were brown they would have been stopped long ago
low class comment. she won the debate when cenk was caught lying 3 times by both profs in 10 minutes. none of the prof debunk natasha claims
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla her arguments where pedantic legalese... she would have lost in court also.
@@eveblot4195 which line which law which claim you said it is false? what is your proof to prove her claim is false? can you defy her claim with solid proof?
She's an obvious liar
About what?
Facts not emotion
Truth hurts
Demons
@@michaelspeyrer1264everything
That chick is the female Mike Huckabee.
This woman is out of her mind.
Shes and embarrassment to women. As a woman, I can whole heartedly call her a c***t. 😁
jsut becuse you can't debunk her claims and laws she stated, you attacked her and defame her. Dont be so low. tell the public, which sentence which term she ised is false?
@@RifndjsklljuwhdnchAfacnxla
lol 😂 great comment.. ☝🏽that’s an example of a 🇮🇱 bot. Mindless.
Let’s Reinvestigate 9/11.
Why did you cut the end of the vid?
Omg she hates everything non zionist 😂🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸
bravo brother Cenk vey proud of you very well done. She has no heart no conscious and no feeling whatsoever of sympathy for human being and chidden massacre and genocide .
bravo brother Cenk vey proud of you very well done. you have successfully eaern the thickest face skin when you repeat the lies after your lies are debunked by 2 prof for 3 times in 10 minutes.
Cenk did not like being called ignorant.
TYT has balls. You dont care looking like morons?
God bless you Cenk, you are among the heroes of humanity.
Oh good, she's playing the hits; this should be redundant.
She should go straight in jail
Sorry tyrant, that's not how the free world works, unfortunately you aren't living in nazi Germany :( sad for you.
write it on TH-cam: FULL REPORT - 'Hamas Hurt Us, Killed us' : Unfiltered Gazans Speak Out
Another show of Cenk getting destroyed by an opponent
And reality shows that Isnotreal is a colony.
Cenk is amazing
😂😂😂😂😂😂
A parasite
Natasha swept the floor with Cenk
Walked the floor? Think u might have failed high school kid
@@vsam3861 agreed
@@vsam3861 The average Zionist supporter
And she sank & failed miserably poor little pea- brained turd
Poor thing, you must have suffered so in school.
This woman is sick!
yet you cannot deny she is talking the truth...
SahihBukhari2926 calls for believers to fight jews until rocks and trees call out where they hide. That's what's sick, the doctrine brainwashing the perpetrators on oct7
Girl math + word salad= Oct 7
Misogyny
Unfortunately most of the people commenting are not bright enough to understand the law!
Damn Hermonie went over my head.
Anyway, Israel seems to have gone too far to me.
Emotional .. vs rational
Emotional versus irrational
Cenk dogg walked her 👍💪🔥
Cenk ate dog
Talk to us in plain English not mumbo jumbo legalies
33:30 She almost forgot her memorized talking points 🤣
The sound was recorded with a toaster
I think they hired elementary school children to do their sound. Geesh.
Honestly she sickens me. Notice how cheerfully and frequently she says "you have no jurisdiction and we refuse to give it to you, so nyah".
Am i the only person noticing that the "lawyer" constantly contradics herself? She doesnt see the icc and icj as valid courts but those are the only courts we have for international law. And she said israel does not agree to the icc and icj ergo we do not agree with international law and then she twists international law so far out of proportion to defend her point.
No, honey. You're not.
You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time
I’d hate to be laying wounded on the pavement, and asking for help, and having these lawyers argue about who has jurisdiction as to which hospital I should be sent to.
A technicality in the law means she might win the case. But technically she lost the moral argument.
Cenk countered her lies.
? which lies ? which line? cenk got caigh lying 3 times in 1o minutes by both Profs. guess how thick is his skin? maybe you should tell us how thick is your skin
I just read the human rights watch 154 page report entitled " Hopeless, Starving and Besieged' Israels Forced Displacement of Palestinians in Gaza which refutes all the lies about Israel being so moral and not purposefully committing displacement and genocide. I don't know what you mean how thick my skin is, but no it is not as thick as these lawyers who can defend the slaughter of children.
Cenk making up his own definitions as usual.
Natasha has facts. Cenk has feelings.
@kaplan what facts name them,surely you need to excavate you ears hasbara 🤡
Cenk is the man keep standing up for the people f$c the haters
Cenk won. She lost. It’s very painful to listen to her as I see videos of starving people begging for water and food. Israel’s military calculated the minimum number of calories per day that Gaza Strip residents would need to avoid malnutrition during its embargo of goods into the territory from 2007 to 2010.
According to documents, Israel calculated that Gazans on average needed 2,279 calories a day to survive. After subtracting for locally produced food and other factors, the document then estimated how many truckloads of food would be required to prevent malnutrition. Under the Israeli blockade, prior to October 7 they were already limiting their food so they only had enough to survive. Gaza was already in crisis. In 2022, 64.3% of Gaza's population was already classified as being moderately or severely food insecure, and 77% of residents reported that all of their family members had reduced the number of meals they consume per day. This was all purposely done by Israel. Now they are fully starving them!
She sounds just like any other defense lawyer who has to defend a m’rdrer, knowing well that the person is in fact guilty of their crimes.
Whether she likes it or not it’s just been made official: the UN special committee finds Israel's methods of war in Gaza consistent with G’nicide. Just wondering how she practices in a regular court, does she say the court is being biased because they don’t side with her particular client??
Lmao,
Cenk was not even in the debate.
The discussion was supposed to be about the legal Isues concerning the international court. Cenk who was out of his dept complitlt avoid the subject and instead used a string of strowman and outright lies.
Any debater of high school level can tell you that Cenk wasn't even in the debate.
@@dh5142He made it clear that he’s not a lawyer. This was known prior to the agreement of the debate. That being said, I believe he did a good job of defending the truth. She, on the other hand, repeated the same arguments that we’ve been hearing over and over again for over a year now.
She's way out of his league, comes to a street fight with a fighter jet and Cenk is lost for words... He's perfect for TV, but that's her profession, turn him into ashes in her first minute... She's world class, they should have put someone of her standard
@dkhan9819 he made it clear that he was clueless about the subject.
That doesn't make him any less clueless.
It dese make him the loser of the debate.
Cenc was the one leged man in a kick arse competition and you try to claim that he won?
Next you will tell me that Hamas are winning....
Wow you have gotta be really far left to believe yourself it must be like a mental illness, to begin with do you know what the palestine hamas charter and MO is?? And mentioning the UN as if they are anything other than in the pockets of hamas hezbulla Iran, pretty much any of those organisations beginning with the letters UN are complicit in attacks against Israel as being their ammunition couriers