Fix Your Squishy Scooter Brakes! Hydraulic Fluid Top-off. (G.O.W. Workshop)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- If your scooter brakes are squishy, but you know the brake pads aren't worn down. This could be worth trying before you end up bleeding your brake lines entirely.
*Contact your reseller for a brake fluid kit, if you can't get one, this one should work, but it does NOT come with mineral oil to fill your lines. You'd need to purchase that separately.
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So satisfying to see the bubbles coming out! Now I can't wait to do it.
Forever useful. Thank you for your efforts.
That was extremely constructive guidance. Thanks for your help👍
Thanks so much for making this video. My Wolf King Gt Pro’s rear brakes arrived low on oil and this video helped me refill it with ease.
You have no idea how perfect the timing me finding this video is! Thank you so much!
Yeah I agree. Love this guys videos. Learning so much.
Awesome job man. Thanks for this video. This help me so much!
just found this video, the steps were right on for my wolf king gt, Thanks!
Thanks works like a charm now great video quick clear and easy 👍
Very helpful. Exact model and we struggled until we saw this video. Only note is to get correct size of kit.
Well done again "G". i just got my Warrior GT Pro and the back break is definitely squishy. Your video is quick and to the point without the useless banter and bullshit [as usual ]. thanks again...
Thanks for watchin 🫡
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Ed sheeran scooter mechanic you helped me out man thanks
Lmao
Great how to video. I’ve had the squishy brakes for the past 100 miles and it’s getting a bit sketchy when slowing down.
This is the procedure that solved my problem with a weak rear brake. I tried the bleeding procedure with 2 of these syringes but that didn't solve it all. The trick is pull the brake lever while having 1 syringe connected and then add some fluid. Worked great! Thanks.
Air in the lever reservoir = pumping method
Air in the lines or caliper = brake bleed
Thanks
I just bought a new kaabo wolf King gt and when I wrote it it shut off and said it had brake problems that little red icon and when I watch your video I realized it might be the hydraulic fluid being topped off in the brake levers and yes sure enough it was thanks I appreciate love the concept keep it up
Thanks for this video. I’d love a quick video on how you changed the brake pads
Sure thing, I can do that. Coming up!
Brake pad video up tomorrow :)
@@GingerOnWheels I've just getting my Wolf Warrior 11 last week and I've noticed the brake levers wobble its a lot worse on the left than the right hand side is there any way to fix this ?
Ginger which one size of adapter i will buy to refule zoom brakes ?
Question: So how do you know when your fluid is good to go? Is it when all the bubbles have disappeared because the fluid has replaced where the bubbles once were? Thanks for this!!!
Regarding metall ring in brake lever. R we supposed to remove it or have it on while bleeding brakes?
V. USEFUL..........THANKS
No problemo
Do you have a way to do dyisland brakes please ?
Hi ginger, great video! I have just bought a zero11x with 400miles on thr clock it has the zoom brakes and really dont seem very good, i have to really pull them on hard to stop! the back lever come almost all the was to the grip, would you say this is due to low hydraulic oil/pads or are the zoom brakes just not very good?
The zoom brakes aren’t bad. When mine were new they had very little travel to the lever (maybe 1/2”-3/4”) and you could easily stop the heavy scooter with one finger on each lever.
He’s exactly right. Just put it in push the plunger down a little and pump the brakes when you feel it getting hard unscrew it and it’s good
What's that black light on the KAABO that's the one I want can u send me a link
Yup its time to do my rear break hydraulic breaks, its really squishy to the point that it almost dosnt work.
Is a hydraulic fluid on a wolf king pro on the right hand side of the handle bar or the left hand side?
hi my brake line nut to the back zoom caliper broke where do i find them!
Hey Ginger, do you know what number is on the torque wrench you used, I had to order the fluid kit from fluid free ride and they sent me the kit but it fits my kaabo king but not my warrior. it seems like the "screw" is smaller then the one on the king. same zoom brakes. any suggestion, can I use another allen wrench. I cant wait another 10 days for them to mail me the right one. thanks john.
Use whatever tool you need to in order to get the job done!
Hello I have the same zoom brakes when I press the brake I need.to.press it quite alot for it too stop is that normal ? Or need bleeding
where can i buy those brass tips? i have no idea what they are called, where to get them. i got Zoom hydraulic Scooter brakes, and i cant find the brass tube screw things anywhere.
This was perfect, I'm semi lazy and after watching 2 other videos on this realized I don't even have brake pad blocks. I don't know how this method compares to the videos where they took off the brake pads and bled it from both ends of the brakes. But, I did this and mine went from barely being able to stop from going 5mph to the brakes feeling like when I got the scooter. Even if I gotta do this once a month I'm good. With this now I'm wondering why the hell the other videos showing this have so many more steps.
Thanks for the video sir.
This works if the air in your lines is towards the top of the scooter. If you've got air bubbles mid line somehow, or near the bottom, then bleeding works better (but harder and more time consuming for sure)
hi ginger what about the ! sign on display done everything bleeding new 2nd set of nutt hydraulic brakes replaced from the new set rear brakes had worked for a lil while never rode with the sets replaced due to non response from the install on nanrobot 4d+2.0 ill go back to crappy j.a.k brakes this is costly an a head ach
Would a bike shop sell this? My front brake has maybe 3% stopping power left -_- ps where did the fluid go since I saw no leaks
Any one know the bleed screw size on hydraulic zoom brakes lever?
i broke the bleed fitting, is it m4?
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FYI - I have squishy brakes with a Kaboo Mantis (semi-hydraulic) with plenty of the original brake pad left and about 170 miles on it. Did brake cable adjustments and still nothing, it was either way to much or not enough. I ended up replacing the brake pads and the results are night and day. It's back to how it was when it was new.
I would guess that the pad material had deteriorated to perform properly.
FYI - I wrench my own vehicles, and it's stupid to think that what I did worked, but you need to try it for yourself.
Are there any scooter ride groups in the Seattle area???
Ginger the brakes on my wolf won’t bleed . I try to fill them up but it’s as if there is no space for the fluid to go and the brakes are completely squishy no tension at all idk what to do man
Another old school dirt bike trick is to pull your lever tight and put a zip tie around your lever and bars holding it tight overnight. It forces any air from the lines up to the top and gives your levers a nice firm feeling. Trust me this works.
Can you elaborate, my scooter has similar problem, it's 1 month new and back brake is not working.
What does it mean if you don't get any air bubbles and the fluid doesn't seem to be going into the reservoir at all? Also zero resistance on the brake lever.
Please help, just got a new scooter but once I press rear brake once it is not working, I have to press and release it for around 5 times to be able to work. What it might be ?
Ive followed your steps , the brakes felt just fine , other than the levers wouldn't snap all the way back , and when i went to test ride it , the brakes canceled the motors
You probably need to adjust your brake sensor next to the Lever. Is the other cable next to hydraulics brake line.
easiest way, more efficient then other methods
I filled up the line and for some reason I can’t get my rear brakes to function could it be at the back Reservoir
Where can I buy the brake bleed kit?
Does the p100s have hydrolic fluid?
Is this the same for the vsett 10+
could You help with leaking calipers?
How do you adjust the brake lever travel? My scooter has the front lever adjusted so every time I squeeze it tight it literally touches the hand grip and I want to adjust it so it doesn't do that
Add fluid. Like I did in this video. That was the whole point.
Ginger do I fill it up with hydraulic fluid first and then bleed them??
You shouldn't need to bleed them entirely.
😂 that cat 👍👍👍
Yea but u didn't show the part when u fill it up when do u fill it up before u bleed it after,??
Good video thank you I got da nami
yooooooo lol i fliped my scooter over to change the front tire and now I got the wheel back on my front brakes don't work. What do you think happened ?
Do the 3 mm Kabo rotors from Ali fit the gtr ginger? Voro has 2 mm and myn that came on the scooter are 2 mm. But Ali has 3 mm
The ones on Ali probably say 3 but are actually 2.
I just looked for the kit on Fluidfreeride and 59 bucks to fix the problem on a brand new $3,300 scooter is ridiculous!! I'm going to drop them an email and plead my case and see what happens. They were great to deal with during the purchase process so hopefully this they will continue a good relationship.
Yeah if the scooter is new and has squishy breaks they'll probably hook you up with a kit.
You spent $3,300 on the scooter and have the audacity of complaining about $60 for basic maitence, you don’t deserve an esctooer 🎉🎉🎉
What is the name of the oil i should buy for my wolf king gt pro for my break please
Just look for hydraulic brake mineral oil kits. They usually come with adapters and one of them will fit the brakes you have.
Any online store where i can purchase brake fluid kit? Fluidfree is out of stock of the brake kit.
I'm not sure... Check Alibaba. RevRides might have a few for sale if you wanna hit them up. Good luck!
Hey man, I’ve followed the exact same method you have used 3 times now, and my front brake it STILL spongey, I cannot work out for the life of me why it’s doing it. I had a shed load of air come out and I carried on pumping the brake for a while just incase there was an air bubble further down but nope, full pressure. As soon as I put the screw back in the reservoir and pull the brake in it’s spongey again, the bolt that holds the brake line onto the front caliper was slightly loose so I bought some safety torque keys, used those to tighten the bolt and tried to bleed the brake again, but nope still no luck, I am out of ideas, any help would be appreciated 👍🏼 cheers. (P.s it’s not my brake pads I’ve taken them out and checked them and I’ve only done 40 miles) wolf warrior 11 pro +
Maybe you need to bleed your brake lines. You'll have to find a mtb channel to help you with that
what size thread is the brass fitting? my bleeding kit didnt come with one and i need to buy it separately fml. advice ASAP would be great!
I couldn't tell you. :/ My first kit didn't come with one and I had to get another entire kit.
@@GingerOnWheels literally the same situation im in now. ughhh. can you link to a kit that has a fitting? would be sincerely appreciated. trying to get the part by weds for a group ride. thanks in advance buddy! appreciate you responding so quickly!
Ginger I’m super frustrated. Voro sold me the wolf king gt and the front brake lever came squishy. I just followed these exact steps and as I pumped it, I didn’t see the air bubbles. I managed to squeeze all the brake fluid in it, but it still has absolutely 0 pressure. What next?
More mineral oil. Sounds like you didn't get enough. Blown away they would ship you one that low. Make sure it's not leaking out of the caliper.
@@GingerOnWheels thanks I did end up getting that done ✅ you are correct. I’ve also noticed since these are power brakes, you probably don’t really need brake fluid anyway to stop correct?
Can you please help me out on upgrading brakes on a Zero 11X. I want to upgrade from stock zoom brakes to magura mt5e.
What do you need help with? Remove old brake levers and calipers, then install new ones. The only thing you need to be wary of is if the new calipers will fit on the adapter that you have to mount them to the frame. I've never seen this upgrade done on a Zero 11x so you might need a custom mounting bracket.
@@GingerOnWheels I have already ordered the adapters, but I wish there was a TH-cam step by step tutorial on how to do it on a Zero 11X. There is a lot of upgrade and modification videos about dualtron thunder, but barely any for Zero 11X.
I’m guessing the brakes were squishy when you got it. Mine seem that way compared to hydrolics on my bike. I’m guessing Fluid Free Ride should include that kit with some blue loc-tite to all the loose bolts.
No they were great when I got it. But after about 1600 miles and some sets of pads later, it got squishy.
Ginger On Wheels Wow 1600. Nice. I’ll have to try again with the regeneration off. It’s a bit of a weird feeling at first as the regen braking seems at but aggressive and the. I let off and reapply and I guess it just feels mushy compared to the initial regen braking.
I actually have this issue currently on my rear brake, even after contacting fluid and getting this kit, bleeding the air it wouldn't take any fluid, also have a slight clicking sound from the lever..they brake works.just isn't confidence-boosting when stopping from 40+..
Sounds like maybe you need to bleed the brake line entirely.
@@GingerOnWheels fluid sent me a new handle
Hi
My name is Ruben I from NYC
I do the same method to my rear brakes but went I put everything together etc
I press the brake and stop for 2 seconds en get lose went I brake
I don’t know what to do
I only use regenerative brake & front
I never open the scooter to see what happened
Im sorry Ruben, Im not sure what you're saying. What's the problem? Your brakes come loose?
I have the same problem Ginger where can I get the kit from other than fluid free ride I haven't rode mine yet I'm waiting on their response I might be waiting for 2 weeks do they make their own hydraulic fluid with mineral oil there has to be other shooters on the market that have this thank you
I couldn't find it anywhere else... You might get lucky with a search on Alibaba for Zoom brakes, or something similar. GL.... 😔
Question Ginger is it anyway I can get empty kit from offline and get the bubbles out and reuse the fuel because my wolf warriors brand new and it's not showing any leakage of oil I've been hearing people talk about reusing it in the instruction manual it says like don't ride it until you contact the people you purchased it from so it is a no-go with taking a ride I was trying to say I had the same problem with the lock in screws on both sides coming out but that I bolt 5-18 you are a life saving if you have any information thank you so much
First of all I want to say thank you so much for helping me out with everything with the warrior I finally got the hydraulic refill kit fluidfree ride but had to pay for if it had to get to since y'all say every 6 months it might need to be changed anybody need some it's up for sale
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My wheels on nami feel “tight” it seems like part of the wheel is breaking when I ride it or walk it... it sound like it’s rubbing against something I tried the loosening the bolts and holding the break but it’s still happening... so annoying I literately just took it out of the box and having this issue.
Weird... if it's not the brakes it's probably just the natural resistance of the electric motor. Maybe bearings, but then you'd hear funky noises coming from the wheel when it was spinning, like a click or grind.
Dear Ginger: I've a Currus NF with a LT-D777 Model Hydraulic Brake? Does anyone know what who makes it? There's ZERO info on the internet.
Never heard of it... Sorry.
I had so much air in my GTR’s rear brake line it sprayed out when I opened the reservoir after only a few days of riding. Probably improperly assembled at the factory and air was hiding in the calliper
I had a nanrobot d6+ how can i maintance my hydraulic brake?
If you press play on this video, the information you need is contained inside.
I don’t have that little pipe bit and all the fluid keeps leaking out the top when I pump the brakes
Bummer. You can get the pipe from a pet store in the aquarium section
Theres no link to the brake kit... do you know if fluidfreerider sells the kit for the warrior 11 it's not listed on there website
I just contacted them and they gave me the kit like I said in the video. If you contact them they have spare parts for all scooters that aren't on the site. Also, there is a link to a brake kit, it's in the description to this video with bold next to it close to the top.
@@GingerOnWheels daaaaa I'm sorry I see it. Dont know how I missed it! Thanks.....AGAIN...LOL
@@GingerOnWheels the link takes you to a google voice call?
I have break warning light do you know how to fix it
There are two wires coming out of the brake lever area. One is smaller. Screw the nut counterclockwise a quarter turn. In my experience that will fix it.
hey mate,
I have a zero 10x and at time I lose the front brake. It's not the hydraulic type, just the cable disc brakes. I then need to back off the cable screw and re tighten. Any idea what the fault is?
Use loctite on the nut and screw then it won't come loose by itself.
@@GingerOnWheels it wasn't loose that's the thing. it's like the piston is getting stuck. very strange sensation in the hand when it happens as all looks normal
@@Studat I see. It sounds to me like you might have a kink or hard bend in the brake line. Thats my only other guess.
why do you need so much fluid in the syringe?, it doesnt even look like you refilling the lines same amount you started with is still in the syringe i don't understand
How do you know when you are running low on the Fluid for the Brakes?
The brake levers will squeeze back way too far and not produce adequate stopping power
This is a lot easier then pumping oil from the bottom, but does it really get all the air out?:
It usually works enough to get the brakes working again, but if you want them to feel new then you have to do the full brakebleed process.
@@GingerOnWheels Thanks. How often do you have to do this? Seems like a royal pain in the butt.
Ginger ... this is not proper. The squeezing / pressure is creating tiny effervescent bubbles. For a lever bleed your not supposed to squeeze in any brake fluid into the brake reservoir. Simply pump your lever and as the air bubble comes out, the fluid via gravity will pour in.
Well it clearly works both ways.
my matise brakes act like antilock the pulse is this a bad settup? or
You can turn the abs setting off in your p settings. Instructions are in the manual.
@@GingerOnWheels thanks, i eventually found that, when i contacted voro they had no clue what i was talking about. ABS feel much different in the motorcycle world im in. thanks so much for the reply i know your getting many questions. I run a vintage motorcycle shop in indiana and am entering the hobby of electric , i also fly electric large scale RC air!! have a great day!!!
Best fucking channel
I just bought my Wolf Warrior X and you’re helping me so much
Much love brother
Edit: No homo
Hello, is this the same as bleeding? Or is this just refilling the mineral oil? Ordered my bleed kit online and it comes with a funnel. Not sure on how to use that.
Not the same as bleeding. Just refilling.
@@GingerOnWheels but how would you know whether you need to bleed or refill?
If fluid leaks out visibly, or if you need to replace the fluid entirely (maybe it's dirty or contaminated) or there is damage to the brake line that needs repairs, then you bleed it.
@@GingerOnWheels thanks alot!
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@@GingerOnWheels Can apply this to my Z10X? As in the refill?
Ginger..... what's up brother? When your squeezing the brake lever over and over are you pushing the needle plunger down to force oil in at the same time or leaving the plunger alone while your squeezing the lever? AGAIN...... THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME,YOUR KNOWLEDGE,YOUR VIDEO CONTENT,AND YOUR HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yo! Ideally you pull the brake lever over and over while pushing the plunger down a bit. Easier said than done....
I'm no expert but I don't think you can push fluid in if the other end of the line is closed.
Hey broseph can you please re link the kit I cannot open that short URL
Just as soon as I can find it... 🧐
Ginger On Wheels 😂 ok 👌
bit.ly/BrakeFluidKit
Ginger On Wheels thanks allot for that dude. I’m in Australia I’ll suss it out tomorrow
Good ).
My brake is stuck. It doesn't open up unless I take it off the rotor and pry it open and if I pump the brake handle again it will close but won't open up again. Will this method work on mine?
First I would try replacing the fluid in the line, then try replacing the lever, then the caliper if that doesn't work.
@@GingerOnWheels When you say replace fluid in the line, do you mean adding more like you did in the video?
@@cilva7able in this situation I think it would be preferable to bleed the line and replace the fluid entirely.
@@GingerOnWheels Do you have any videos on bleeding the line?
@@cilva7able no I don't period but there are lots of mountain biking channels that I'm sure have that sort of video. The concept is pretty much the same
What are the "tiny little tubes with brass tips" acutely called? My rear break and this problem so I purchased a break bleed kit bit the attachments are to big and don't fit. I tried to improvise with a small rubber o ring but got no air bubbles to come out so I obviously didn't fill it up and my break is still way to soft.
P.s I have been watching the chanel for some time and have shared it to all my scooter buddy's, all the best 🙂
Man, I wish I knew. Even the kits are hard to find, if it weren't for fluidfreeride I'm not sure I would've been able to find one so easily. I would imagine the technical name is something like 'threaded reservoir adapter' or something along those lines.
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My kabbo wolf king has a leak in the front brake it’s leaking out of the actual brake hate these pos brakes ! Of course the tools needed for brakes don’t come with the scooter
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Ging
Ginga
I got leaking at the reservoir and also the rear wheel hydraulic brake. Pls help
i saw ed Sheeran
Ginger
I've done it that way, got squishy again after a 20 miles. I would watch the voro video.