I still feel you could add other pikmin to olimar kit Rock Pikmin- strongest pikmin that can cause massive damage, break shield and metor spike but has the worst throwing distance. Ice Pikmin- can create an AOE Ice Attack or trap when thrown. Glow Pikmin- projectal attack, if olimar has more of them the bigger and stronger it gets. Love your Pikmin Rush idea.
I mean even if you want to do the bare minimum Rock in Pikmin 3 function how Purples function in Smash. Why not just update how purples function so they cling like they should but have their lower trajectory/body slam and then just make Rocks do blunt projectile damage?
My idea is that for the custom specials, each character has one custom special for each special attack: neutral, up, forward, and down. Each custom special can either work completely different from the base special to reference something from the character's home series or can be another similar variation of a special attack, especially if the base special is hard to replace with something else. Also, maybe if a move gets replaced, then the custom version of the move can be the old move from the previous game, especially if players liked it. An example of this could be for Mario's up special, where the base is the super jump punch but the custom version is using FLUDD to propel himself in the air. Both the base and custom special have their own pros and cons and can be switched based on the player's preference.
Some ideas for our Favorite Snake. Neutral B: This has snake use a Stun grenade as apposed to a Frag, having the similar properies to his normal grenades, these grenades can notably knock an enemy out of their sheild, they do less damage, but also posess a shorter fuze time, and can even made enemies at high precents dizzy! Side B: This has snake use the Stinger missile instead of the Nakita, generating a viewcone in front of him. Apparently the MAPADS system can lock onto fighters, after it does, the launcher will lock on and fire an extremely fast and difficult to evade rocket. The downside is that it nessicates a lock on to properly use. Down B: This brings back a classic from Brawl, The Landmine! After a short animation, Snake plants a mine. If there is no ground, he simply drops the mine straight down. exploding when it gits the ground. If on the gound, it explodes when stepped on. It is easier to spot than it was in brawl. Up B: This move has snake draw a Railgun and aim it downwards, firing a powerful shot after a short wind up, the recoil of the shot launching him into the air. The shot can notably spike and penetrate the stage, making it a scary edgeguard tool. Some other moves that Snake could use. Side B: Rocket Arm Snake fires a Rocket guided fist forward. This more damage and is faster, but has far less fuel. It otherwise behaves just like the Nakita. Down B: CQC Counter Snake enters a stance as the iconic "!" symbol appears over his head, upon being attacked, he quickly preforms a CQC takedown. Usually Slamming the enemy into to floor.
I think that instead of the target throw, Olimar should get a bubble hud indicator like in the pikmin games, so instead of a tiny arrow you have a better indicator of which pikmin you're currently using. Also the pikmin get a little buff each time they mature from leaf to bud to flower, so you'll be tempted to keep pikmin alive for as long as it's possible, however pikmin will lose petals and revert from flower to bud to leaf if your opponent knocks them down by shaking or if they get hit by an attack that doesn't kill them.
New Custom Specials return! And it seems we’re giving some new stuff to the Melee and Brawl casts. Should be interesting. Basing Zelda's alternate specials on the dragons is a take I did not expect, but it is interesting. Pikmin Rush feels like something that should be a part of Olimar's kit alongside Pikmin Order. Maybe if you give Olimar a Remake, we could see them both? Meta Knight's new customs are probably my favorite of this bunch, the new Down-B was especially creative. Though personally, I wish Piercing Slash would be Meta Knight's Dash Attack.
I havent clicked this fast on a video for a really long time. the next smash bros game should defintely bring back custom moves and make them greater then ever. it has so much potential.
Cool to see another New Custom Specials video! :D I'm really hoping that if Smash 6/7 does become real, one of the features that return is the Customize Special Techniques as I really liked the idea of fighters being able to change their Killing-Arts in For, just wished it was much better executed like being unlocked for all characters right off the bat, including the DLC fighters, as well as being more from the source material as opposed to only a few characters getting them from their actual games (never so much minded that they were unlockable in both versions of For, it's just that there were doubles of the same custom moves, as well as not making it easy to tell on which characters you have, and haven't gotten all the custom moves for yet, and while the game did tell you tell you got them all for that 1 particular character, it never appeared in the Notice menu for some reason which was just stupid, so if they do ever come back, and it's done more like your way which is much better, they either should have them all unlocked for all fighters at the very start, or have them be unlockable, but don't have doubles, make it easier to tell who does, and don't have all their custom moves yet, and have the "all character custom moves are unlocked" message be available in the Notice menu, and not just a 1 time thing)! Maybe the next group of 4 Smash fighters you could do are Purin, Luigi, Kamui, and Young Link! In fact, I think it'd be pretty cool if you could do another new Patreon award were Patrens get to decide which characters will be chosen for the next NCS video, and it would be around 6-8 characters that they'd get to choose to be the next 4! Regardless, another solid video! ^^ Keep up the amazing work, Delzethin!
Amazing video as always! I could totally see some of these alternate specials making their way into these character’s movesets if the next game goes for a reboot approach
Personally, I feel you could have done better for olimars specials. Here are my ideas Side: rush horn- acts the same way you described it for the down special, having olimar charge all his Pikmin forward to latch onto an opponent for longer and more damage (with purples doing a launching tackle) Up: jetpack- inspired by hey Pikmin, this has olimar wip out his jetpack and fly a set distance upward. It has much much faster vertical recovery, and more floaty horizontal recovery, but can't hold any Pikmin when used. Down: dodge whistle- used in both pikmin 3 and 4, olimar uses the same gather move and sorting whistle as before, but you can press a direction while whistle is active to dodge roll in that direction. Not only does this bring Pikmin back, but it gives olimar a additional tool he can use to evade projectiles and pluck Pikmin.
Dude, you need to make more playlists. You have at least four ongoing series and it would help your channel to have them all get playlists, as well as displaying them on the front page of your channel rather than only Challenger Approaching. I would recommend taking notes from a channel called "Drandosk & Miller" for front page design (entirely different content but it is well-organized).
Am I the only one who wants Purple Pikmin to fly at a high arc and slam into the ground like in the original game? The Rock Pikmin could be included to tackle opponents.
for meta knight, i think mach tornado is inreplacable, its his most iconic move in his boss fights, you cant change it. peircing slash would be horrible as a special,make it his dash attack. shuttle loop is based of meta knights version which is different from kirbys (now it is) , so taking it from some other characters litteral moveset would make no sense. for down b there is 2 problems 1. this has NEVER been done in his own games 2. just give him galactic counter
Up special that kills your Pikmin and their spirits lift you up and makes you invulnerable but doesn't go quite as far would be cool. Maybe glow Pikmin instead? Also neutral special could replace poison and purple Pikmin with ice and rock Pikmin
Your ideas are just top notch and I'd be happy for just one alternative custom move. When you get to Bowser, I implore you to give him his Koopa Klaw back. I miss seeing him chomp his opponents but I also like how Project M has him bash his head on the opponent.
I could see the alternate for Olimar's Neutral B being a version that replaces White Pikmin with Ice Pikmin, dealing the lowest damage when they latch on but having a small chance to freeze opponents if they get hit by it more than 5 times, and replacing Purple Pikmin with Rock Pikmin, which are slower to throw than other Pikmin and don't fly as far, but smash through any opponents in their way for massive damage and have transcendent priority the same way Piranha Plant's Ptooie does. But your version's great as well, it's an even better get-out-of-jail-free card than the current Down B is.
Only came here for Meta Knight and i dont think its a great idea Mach Spinner can be user as a great edge guard move mostly of non hit box up b and kills which is op Piercing Slash will be broken for edge guard since he can come back very easily and for recovery and both situation caused because of you wont be put into free fall Shuttle Cyclone is the least broken of them all probably and will hurt meta knight AWESOME recovery Deflector Cape could have been a good idea but uhhhh You can dodge the slash extremly easy just by jumping except if your extremly close to him which is not the case for a reflector You should have remplaced that with a counter
I like your ideas for meta knight's moveset, but I wish you would take more inspiration from his boss battles than the times that he's playable. For example, Some Meta Knight boss fights have an attack where he radiates light for a second, charges forward, and if he hits kirby with the charge attack, he kicks him into the air, and does a multiattack before launching the opponent away.
Why is it that the three dragons you used for Zelda's Neutral, Side, and Up specials all start with the same three letters as the characters that Zelda's actual specials come from.
my own custom mario ideas up special 1 he grabs the trusty owl from mario 64. flies up like with snakes recovery up special 2 the rocket nozzle from sunshine is a self explanatory here down special 1 mario uses the galazy spin along with the luma. both a reference to hi old down special and as a reflect/slight recovery down special 2 mario uses the 3D land tanooki leaf and drobs down like a stature akin to kirbys down special. neutral special 1 mario shoots an ice ball it may freeze enemies neutral special 2 mario throws cappy forward 5x marios height dealing damage and can be comboed out from can be jumped on to gain height twise it combos well with galaxy spin side special 1 mario pulls out his hammer from the mario&luigi rpg games he pulls the hammer back and when you let go off the button do he attack. timing is key as you can get everything up to an excellent and a fail if you are too late side special 2 assuming DR mario wont return is this side special a new type of pill throw. thrown more like olimars side special does it function like a random effect giving attack. and the effect is actually stronger if an enemy try to consume it. for example when wario or kirby eat it
Custom move have a ton of potiental and IMO should be the main focus in a later entry. If fully realized. You can change any move, they're fully different/way less asset reusing ones and there's no quota, so certain characters get more moves then others. (Mario, Link, Kirby > Falcon, Rob, Duck Hunt) Maybe even turn existing clone characters into Alph style alts (Doc for a Mario alt) and bring in there moves to give you even more freedom. I've heard some say that'd be way too ambitious, I don't fully agree since the base for the idea is already there and there's plenty of moves from Smash games that work as an adequate fit. You want canonically faithful Ganon, Falcondorf, or a hybrid of both? You got it.
What if instead of only specials, each character had specific moves that had completey alternate moves. Sort of like switch skills from monster hunter rise. Or another interesting idea would be to copy MK and have 3 set variations.
I want to see New Alts for the Pikmin characters which are Olimar, Loui, Alpha, Britney, Charlie, both Male and Female default Pikmin 4 Characters and a Female Pikmin 4 character in the next Smash Bros game for the next Nintendo console.
wait, who is waiting for nintendos next console ? im definitely not, i still think the switch keeps up if not surpasses everything else on the market in terms of value. if anything it should just be upgrades like the oled. hope to god they dont release a new console just for the sake of releasing a new console,
I still feel you could add other pikmin to olimar kit
Rock Pikmin- strongest pikmin that can cause massive damage, break shield and metor spike but has the worst throwing distance.
Ice Pikmin- can create an AOE Ice Attack or trap when thrown.
Glow Pikmin- projectal attack, if olimar has more of them the bigger and stronger it gets.
Love your Pikmin Rush idea.
I mean even if you want to do the bare minimum Rock in Pikmin 3 function how Purples function in Smash. Why not just update how purples function so they cling like they should but have their lower trajectory/body slam and then just make Rocks do blunt projectile damage?
My idea is that for the custom specials, each character has one custom special for each special attack: neutral, up, forward, and down. Each custom special can either work completely different from the base special to reference something from the character's home series or can be another similar variation of a special attack, especially if the base special is hard to replace with something else. Also, maybe if a move gets replaced, then the custom version of the move can be the old move from the previous game, especially if players liked it. An example of this could be for Mario's up special, where the base is the super jump punch but the custom version is using FLUDD to propel himself in the air. Both the base and custom special have their own pros and cons and can be switched based on the player's preference.
Some ideas for our Favorite Snake.
Neutral B: This has snake use a Stun grenade as apposed to a Frag, having the similar properies to his normal grenades, these grenades can notably knock an enemy out of their sheild, they do less damage, but also posess a shorter fuze time, and can even made enemies at high precents dizzy!
Side B: This has snake use the Stinger missile instead of the Nakita, generating a viewcone in front of him. Apparently the MAPADS system can lock onto fighters, after it does, the launcher will lock on and fire an extremely fast and difficult to evade rocket. The downside is that it nessicates a lock on to properly use.
Down B: This brings back a classic from Brawl, The Landmine! After a short animation, Snake plants a mine. If there is no ground, he simply drops the mine straight down. exploding when it gits the ground. If on the gound, it explodes when stepped on. It is easier to spot than it was in brawl.
Up B: This move has snake draw a Railgun and aim it downwards, firing a powerful shot after a short wind up, the recoil of the shot launching him into the air. The shot can notably spike and penetrate the stage, making it a scary edgeguard tool.
Some other moves that Snake could use.
Side B: Rocket Arm
Snake fires a Rocket guided fist forward. This more damage and is faster, but has far less fuel. It otherwise behaves just like the Nakita.
Down B: CQC Counter
Snake enters a stance as the iconic "!" symbol appears over his head, upon being attacked, he quickly preforms a CQC takedown. Usually Slamming the enemy into to floor.
I think that instead of the target throw, Olimar should get a bubble hud indicator like in the pikmin games, so instead of a tiny arrow you have a better indicator of which pikmin you're currently using.
Also the pikmin get a little buff each time they mature from leaf to bud to flower, so you'll be tempted to keep pikmin alive for as long as it's possible, however pikmin will lose petals and revert from flower to bud to leaf if your opponent knocks them down by shaking or if they get hit by an attack that doesn't kill them.
My take on Daisy’s Custom Specials:
B: Snifit
B+Side: Blossom Bomber
B+Up: Daisy Dice Block
B+Down: Superball
New Custom Specials return! And it seems we’re giving some new stuff to the Melee and Brawl casts. Should be interesting.
Basing Zelda's alternate specials on the dragons is a take I did not expect, but it is interesting.
Pikmin Rush feels like something that should be a part of Olimar's kit alongside Pikmin Order. Maybe if you give Olimar a Remake, we could see them both?
Meta Knight's new customs are probably my favorite of this bunch, the new Down-B was especially creative. Though personally, I wish Piercing Slash would be Meta Knight's Dash Attack.
I’m surprised you didn’t do Mineru for Zelda’s variant Down B.
holy crap thats smart
I havent clicked this fast on a video for a really long time. the next smash bros game should defintely bring back custom moves and make them greater then ever. it has so much potential.
Cool to see another New Custom Specials video! :D I'm really hoping that if Smash 6/7 does become real, one of the features that return is the Customize Special Techniques as I really liked the idea of fighters being able to change their Killing-Arts in For, just wished it was much better executed like being unlocked for all characters right off the bat, including the DLC fighters, as well as being more from the source material as opposed to only a few characters getting them from their actual games (never so much minded that they were unlockable in both versions of For, it's just that there were doubles of the same custom moves, as well as not making it easy to tell on which characters you have, and haven't gotten all the custom moves for yet, and while the game did tell you tell you got them all for that 1 particular character, it never appeared in the Notice menu for some reason which was just stupid, so if they do ever come back, and it's done more like your way which is much better, they either should have them all unlocked for all fighters at the very start, or have them be unlockable, but don't have doubles, make it easier to tell who does, and don't have all their custom moves yet, and have the "all character custom moves are unlocked" message be available in the Notice menu, and not just a 1 time thing)! Maybe the next group of 4 Smash fighters you could do are Purin, Luigi, Kamui, and Young Link! In fact, I think it'd be pretty cool if you could do another new Patreon award were Patrens get to decide which characters will be chosen for the next NCS video, and it would be around 6-8 characters that they'd get to choose to be the next 4! Regardless, another solid video! ^^ Keep up the amazing work, Delzethin!
Amazing video as always! I could totally see some of these alternate specials making their way into these character’s movesets if the next game goes for a reboot approach
Personally, I feel you could have done better for olimars specials. Here are my ideas
Side: rush horn- acts the same way you described it for the down special, having olimar charge all his Pikmin forward to latch onto an opponent for longer and more damage (with purples doing a launching tackle)
Up: jetpack- inspired by hey Pikmin, this has olimar wip out his jetpack and fly a set distance upward. It has much much faster vertical recovery, and more floaty horizontal recovery, but can't hold any Pikmin when used.
Down: dodge whistle- used in both pikmin 3 and 4, olimar uses the same gather move and sorting whistle as before, but you can press a direction while whistle is active to dodge roll in that direction. Not only does this bring Pikmin back, but it gives olimar a additional tool he can use to evade projectiles and pluck Pikmin.
We need more of this
Dude, you need to make more playlists. You have at least four ongoing series and it would help your channel to have them all get playlists, as well as displaying them on the front page of your channel rather than only Challenger Approaching. I would recommend taking notes from a channel called "Drandosk & Miller" for front page design (entirely different content but it is well-organized).
Am I the only one who wants Purple Pikmin to fly at a high arc and slam into the ground like in the original game? The Rock Pikmin could be included to tackle opponents.
Pikemans
for meta knight, i think mach tornado is inreplacable, its his most iconic move in his boss fights, you cant change it.
peircing slash would be horrible as a special,make it his dash attack.
shuttle loop is based of meta knights version which is different from kirbys (now it is) , so taking it from some other characters litteral moveset would make no sense.
for down b there is 2 problems 1. this has NEVER been done in his own games 2. just give him galactic counter
I hope do this series more often!
Meta Knight's alts were pretty cool
Up special that kills your Pikmin and their spirits lift you up and makes you invulnerable but doesn't go quite as far would be cool. Maybe glow Pikmin instead? Also neutral special could replace poison and purple Pikmin with ice and rock Pikmin
Your ideas are just top notch and I'd be happy for just one alternative custom move. When you get to Bowser, I implore you to give him his Koopa Klaw back. I miss seeing him chomp his opponents but I also like how Project M has him bash his head on the opponent.
i love this series! seeing peach and daisy in the next episode is my dream
I could see the alternate for Olimar's Neutral B being a version that replaces White Pikmin with Ice Pikmin, dealing the lowest damage when they latch on but having a small chance to freeze opponents if they get hit by it more than 5 times, and replacing Purple Pikmin with Rock Pikmin, which are slower to throw than other Pikmin and don't fly as far, but smash through any opponents in their way for massive damage and have transcendent priority the same way Piranha Plant's Ptooie does. But your version's great as well, it's an even better get-out-of-jail-free card than the current Down B is.
Only came here for Meta Knight and i dont think its a great idea
Mach Spinner can be user as a great edge guard move mostly of non hit box up b and kills which is op
Piercing Slash will be broken for edge guard since he can come back very easily and for recovery and both situation caused because of you wont be put into free fall
Shuttle Cyclone is the least broken of them all probably and will hurt meta knight AWESOME recovery
Deflector Cape could have been a good idea but uhhhh
You can dodge the slash extremly easy just by jumping except if your extremly close to him which is not the case for a reflector
You should have remplaced that with a counter
I like your ideas for meta knight's moveset, but I wish you would take more inspiration from his boss battles than the times that he's playable.
For example, Some Meta Knight boss fights have an attack where he radiates light for a second, charges forward, and if he hits kirby with the charge attack, he kicks him into the air, and does a multiattack before launching the opponent away.
Would like the concept to return
Once again the most creative smash theory crafter on TH-cam!
Why is it that the three dragons you used for Zelda's Neutral, Side, and Up specials all start with the same three letters as the characters that Zelda's actual specials come from.
my own custom mario ideas
up special 1
he grabs the trusty owl from mario 64. flies up like with snakes recovery
up special 2
the rocket nozzle from sunshine is a self explanatory here
down special 1
mario uses the galazy spin along with the luma. both a reference to hi old down special and as a reflect/slight recovery
down special 2
mario uses the 3D land tanooki leaf and drobs down like a stature akin to kirbys down special.
neutral special 1
mario shoots an ice ball it may freeze enemies
neutral special 2
mario throws cappy forward 5x marios height dealing damage and can be comboed out from can be jumped on to gain height twise it combos well with galaxy spin
side special 1
mario pulls out his hammer from the mario&luigi rpg games he pulls the hammer back and when you let go off the button do he attack. timing is key as you can get everything up to an excellent and a fail if you are too late
side special 2
assuming DR mario wont return is this side special a new type of pill throw. thrown more like olimars side special does it function like a random effect giving attack. and the effect is actually stronger if an enemy try to consume it. for example when wario or kirby eat it
Oh yes! More of this!
My headcanon for Sheik's true identity in Ultimate is that it's BotW!Zelda; Sheik is wearing the BotW version of her outfit, after all.
Custom move have a ton of potiental and IMO should be the main focus in a later entry.
If fully realized.
You can change any move, they're fully different/way less asset reusing ones and there's no quota, so certain characters get more moves then others. (Mario, Link, Kirby > Falcon, Rob, Duck Hunt) Maybe even turn existing clone characters into Alph style alts (Doc for a Mario alt) and bring in there moves to give you even more freedom.
I've heard some say that'd be way too ambitious, I don't fully agree since the base for the idea is already there and there's plenty of moves from Smash games that work as an adequate fit.
You want canonically faithful Ganon, Falcondorf, or a hybrid of both?
You got it.
8:23 Probably just Ocarina of Time Zelda
How is this video the way I learn that the Pickaphone is a thing in Pikmin 4?!?!
What if instead of only specials, each character had specific moves that had completey alternate moves.
Sort of like switch skills from monster hunter rise.
Or another interesting idea would be to copy MK and have 3 set variations.
I want to see New Alts for the Pikmin characters which are Olimar, Loui, Alpha, Britney, Charlie, both Male and Female default Pikmin 4 Characters and a Female Pikmin 4 character in the next Smash Bros game for the next Nintendo console.
Very fun ideas.
if Purple
if Purple
except Purple
yes, i've been waiting
Stop it with the pikmin content internet it's to much mysterious plant-creatuers
I think you might be a little biased towards Tears of the Kingdom.
wait, who is waiting for nintendos next console ? im definitely not, i still think the switch keeps up if not surpasses everything else on the market in terms of value. if anything it should just be upgrades like the oled. hope to god they dont release a new console just for the sake of releasing a new console,