Saku Koivu was Habs captain from the time I was 12 to 24 years old. I grow up a huge Montreal Canadiens and Saku Koivu fans. So when I say that Sweden are better at Ice Hockey, it's not to downgrade how good Finnish players also are but to respond to some people from our previous videos who came out with the "world ranking", who hilariously had Germany #5 above of Sweden... lol!
Strangely enough in Sweden we only make fun of Norwegians. Have whole books of "Norwegian-jokes" at home but never ever heard any about Danes or Finns. It's strange because in general I believe Denmark is the nation that we compare our selves to the most amongst the Nordic nations. A football game against Denmark is win or die, doesn't matter if it's a friendly game.
You Swedes should take that as a compliment. Your "siblings" are a bit jealous and we know you can stand a bit of "friendly" bullying. But like between siblings, if things get serious, we help and stand for each other.
sweden norway finland and denmark:) we are neighbours and we love and hate eachother! but if something serious would happen we are standing straight for eachother so dont mess with the north:)
Finalnd, Norway and Denmark all make fun of Sweden and Swedes. I guess this is because Finalnd was a part of Sweden for 700 years, Norway was forced into a Union with Sweden for 100 years and Sweden and Denmark had so many wars and in the end Sweden won Halland, Slåne and Blekinge from Danmark. So basically a lot of history where Sweden was the bully. Swedes on the other hand only make fun of Nowegians. More often than not it's the same jokes, Sweden and Norway just switch places in the jokes.
No, we make fun of the Finns and Danes and Icelandic people too. That's more mature jokes though, usually with some substance. The typical Norway-Sweden jokes are more on a 9-year old bully level, pretty darn boring at this point. 😇
Oh no. Not again 😂. Fuel for the Finnish low(er) selfestime. The video you watched, was just trolling. The truth is: we Finns love Sweden. They are our closest friends and brothers. 💙💛
In years 1100-1300 Sweden was already christian kingdom and finland was pagan tribes, not one nation. Sweden conquered Finnish tribal areas during those years about -ish, set their rule on finland and started to force christianity. Russia took finland in the early 1800's. Finland did exist as an area of course and people there were under swedish rule - but finnish. With their own culture and language. Finnish politics uses Sweden's situation now with the immigrant policies as a warning and try to prevent that. Let us see. There is definately friendship and frenemy-situation going on between finland and sweden. Many also have family ties in the other country.
My family is from another Scandinavian country but I grew up in Sweden so I’ve had to listen to this petty fake rivalry sh-t all my life and I’ve grown very tired of it. I don’t find it endearing or humorous at all, mainly I think it’s sad and a waste. You have neighbor countries that are 99% identical to you. That’s potentially huge a resource and a benefit to take advantage of but no you’re going to hyper-focus on the minuscule differences and be all jealous and petty and dumb.
Sweden just has got everything easier than Finland. They have managed to stay outside of wars for 200 years (before that they were a rich empire), while Finland started to build everything practically from zero in 1945, ravaged by wars. When you compare the two countries you must take into account where they started. In that regard Finland is actually a huge success story.
Rich Empire might be a slight overexcageration lol. We were piss poor and often survived though (especially french) subsidies. 200 years ago when the "Empire" fell with the loss of Finland we might have been the poorest nation in Europe really.
But totally agree on the part of Finland being a success story. It was vital that you held off Stalin. And you managed the cold war very well taking advantage of your preferential position to export stuff to the Soviets but at the same time maintaining your western connections.
That was a bit silly video you watched but lots of truth in it as well. Sweden is like the annoying brother of every Nordic country! Now I feel a bit a sorry for them because of their trouble with crime rates and gang related drug wars. I hope they will be able to solve that somehow.
In fact, those Nordic regions named as "Novgorod" belonged to nobody. It was a 'no man' s land' inhabited mostly by Lapps and Finnic tribes. Moscow or Novgorod never reached that up north.
All the older borders in that video are inaccurate, because they expect the countries/nations to have existed and borders have been set as they are now. In fact, the Finnic tribes were a major group of ethnicities in the Northern Europe from the Ural to the Atlantic Ocean until the Middle Ages. They were just very sparse on a very wide area. According to that, many Russian place names are originated to early Finnic, like Moskva (Moscow). The river Neva, running through St. Petersburg, is of later Finnic origin: 'neva' still means a type of swamp in Finnish, and it meant 'swamp' when Peter the Great built his capital city on the Finnic soil. (Not saying: Finnish.)
There are quite conflicting accounts on HOW Sweden and Finland eventually became one country, but as a summary: Sweden was a Christian country back in the 1300s, old accounts from those days say that the king of the time decided to go on a "crusade" to the lands in the East (current Finland). There they supposedly forced the Finns to become Swedish subjects. More modern research into this has made people question if this crusade ever even happened, most likely it didn't. What we DO know is that the area known today as Finland was basically just wilderness, with some Finnish tribes scattered about. The Swedes and the Finns traded a lot, and there was also some fighting, but there was no "Sweden conquered Finland". Partly because Finland did not exist, but that is just a technicality, the other point is that Sweden naturally grew into current day Finland, and the people who lived in the areas where the Swedes started to settle, where treated as Swedish peasants, like in actual Sweden. So, over time, the Finnish tribes just became Swedes. They spoke a strange language no Swede could understand, but as stated, they were counted as Swedes and had the same rights and obligations. Finland became very important for Swedish defense against Russia. You could say that Finland was the shield, while Sweden was the sword. Nobody like the upper class back in those days. It is understandable that the Finns negatively associate Swedish-speakers with aristocracy, in Finland, but for every Finn that had it bad back in those days, by math there would probably be 2x more Swedes who had it just as bad. All the Nordics were absolutely p***-poor until the 1900's came around, and the peasants where the worst off. In the video, the Finn is quite sarcastic, so this makes the things he says quite confusing if you are not well-versed in our history. He is of course exaggerating a bit, but for example when he says that Finland provided for example soldiers to the Swedish army - this is true. However, Swedes were drafted just the same.
You know that to complain on things in your country is actually a good thing. Because it means that we want to make it better, and therefore we strive to make it better and better all the time 😃
Sweden and Finland could arguably be the closest to brother-nations there are. Apart from being the same country for 700 years until the Russians conquered the latter in 1809 we share almost the same culture, customs and legal framework. I love Finland and would defend them as I would my own country. It's a special connection especially since there are hundreds of thousands Swedish speaking Finnish nationals and many Finnish in Sweden. We share a common heritage and apart from wanting to win in ice hockey I've never ever met a fin that hold any grudge against Sweden. Nordic brothers!
Finns dislike Sweden because we owned them for hundreds of years, I think it's time to get over that crap now since we sent tens of thousands of soldiers to help them stay free from Russia. Their butthurt is peculiar, reminds me of Poland being sassy towards Russia and Germany (which also without German training and assistance during war time Finland would be a vassal state under Russia post WW2). And no, Im not being a snob now cause I level the same criticism towards Swedens attitude vs Denmark. We've been in the most amount of wars in the world with each other as national states but that stuff's old, we should move on and better our relations in the Nordic region because we share a lot with each other. Nordic alliance now, and no stupid NATO! And politically Finland and Denmark are better than Sweden, so this childish fighting is totally pointless.
Nordic countries are all family. Only we can fight like cats and dogs against each other. If anyone else tries to pick a fight with one of us, you will learn how tight we are...
As a swede, the finns are my favorites..as long as they dont beat us at hockey.. The Norwegians are annoying as hell though. They often kick our swedish ass when it comes to cross country skiing... And they sure like rubbing it in... well.. I guess we do the same though when given a chance. :)
Correction - not with all the immigrants, but with some immigrants; particularly those who "fled" to Sweden but refuse to adapt to Swedish standards (equality, freedom of speech etc.). Quite a difference! It's a fact though that virtually all shootings/bombings in Sweden in recent years are related to first or second generation immigrants - various groups are fighting each others, and sometimes ordinary citizens are caught in the crossfire. With that being said - the absolute majority of immigrants have adapted to the Swedish society and are striving to contribute to the nation's welfare system.
@@MaxSujyNorden To be serious - almost all the shootings/bombings in recent years are almost entirely related to first or second generation immigrants. With that being said - the absolute majority of immigrants have adapted to Swedish society and are hard working people, contributing to the national welfare.
Its this, we are sibling countries and we have this "Nordic council"! In anyway. any finish citicen need to learn at least three languages, Finish, Swedish and English! Its becuse of history, but there is areas where people still speak swedish.. they have to learn finish! Now Estonia like to be a member of our "Nordic council.. becuse they are cousines to finland, ethnical and language!
Finnar kallas FINNISH - på Engelska ! Ruotsalainen means a Swede in Finnish ! Many Swedes do not know The National Game of Finland is Finnish Baseball ! In Swedish BOBOLL - in Finnish PESAPALLO !
@@stiglarsson8405 Hur svårt kan det vara att stava ? As I wrore our SALMING - Reijo Ruotsalainen - means a Swede - but suomalainen means a Finn ! FINSKA är suomi - talar Du finska - puhutko suomea !
He make it sound like Sweden invaded Finland. That is not really True. There existed no Finland, prior to that. Actually, there didn´t even exist a Sweden. The colonization if Finland started pre history and some 5-10% of current day Finland was already part of Svealand (Sveacountry) before Svearike was created. The first Kingdom of Sweden. When the first Kingdom of Sweden spawned it was almost as much in current day Finland as in current day Sweden. Under this period both current day Finland and current day Sweden the kingdom was expanded into. After 300 years under the First kingdom of Sweden most of current day Finland was controlled by the country but only about half of Current day Sweden. After that the kingdom of Sweden was devolved into a country called the Kamlar Union. Kamlar union was a absolutely massive country by the standard of that day. After some 150 year of Kamlar Union there was a revolt in Stockholm, executing/killing/murdering (depending on your position) all the pro Kamlar Union nobility in Stockholm. This spawned the Second Kingdom of Sweden (and that is considered the same nation as today). The second kingdom of Sweden had broadly the same borders as the first, but expanded more into the wilderness of both current day Sweden and Finland. At the inception about 80% of current day Finland was contained in the nation and about 55% of current day Sweden. At the time Sweden was pretty much 4 states. Norrland, Sveland (that is sort of the ruling elite of Sweden both today and then), Götaland and Österland. Later also Skåneland would be added. Skåneland was at very early days the most powerful nation in Scandinavia, hence giving the name Scandinavia to the whole reason, Scania is english/lathin for Skåne. Stockholm is so bitter of it that to this day Skåneland is nowhere on even the maps of today. Here is the thing, everyone in Götaland, Sveland and Skåneland, and most of the people in Norrland speaks a sort of trans Scandinavian language. That is also true for the different part of Denmark and Norway (and technically also Iceland). Over the over 1000 year of constant border shifting, the language of Scandinavia have harmonized to a degree that basically everyone in Norway Denmark and Sweden can understand each other well. But finish is something totally different. not even close. There is no way to flex between Swedish and Finish. So while people Speaking finish and Swedish mixed. And also created new families. During the time it was Sweden. Most families choice Swedish for there children (if they was mix language couple) but after that its the other way around. So when Sweden lossed Finland to Russia a bit over 20% of current day Finland was Swedish. But after that time Swedish have been reduced quite fast. Note, this is important. There never was a Finish border pre the war with Russia. The current Finish border was created as a peace deal with Russia. And they took Torneå river sleight down as well as took Åland. Here is the thing. Åland was never Finish prior to that point. Also some part of the main land was never Finish. Åland was, and is to this day 100% Swedish. On the flip side, in what would become the Swedish part of Lapland there was plenty of Finish people. That would diminish fairly fast, but the cultural effect are still there to this day. While Swedish is a official language of Finland, Finish is a protected language of Sweden. This is in scarp contrast to Scanian that is to be reticulated every day all day still to this day. Anyway, in Finish the city of Stockholm is named Tokholm. And if read in Swedish it roughly translate late to "crazytown". And to be really clear in all Signs in Finland that refers to Stockholm, it says "Tokholm/Stockholm" In Norrland Stockholm is refered to as "fjollträsk" that is not a official name, but general spoken, roughly translated as "gay marshland". And Götaland and Skåneland have simular names... Yea... Its Stockholm the issue, not Sweden
Åland has been inhabited by people from both sides. They just shifted towards Swedish eventually, because the Swedish presence was stronger. They still have some old place names derived from Finnish. But I think it's better that Åland has an autonomy under Finland, because geographically it's naturally connected to mainland Finland with the archipelago. Stockholm in finnish is Tukholma. Not Tokholm
@ place names in finnish rarely end with a consonant. That includes place names that have a translated finnish name, like Tukholma, Tallinna, Kööpenhamina, Moskova, Pariisi etc. So if we used Tokholm because it sounds more accurate, it would've still propably have become Tokholma or Tokholmi and I think that Tukholma just sounds better. And it feels better to pronounce in finnish. If it was literally translated it would be Tukkisaari
@@butterflies655I knew the answer, but still, this what google told me "A part of Sweden from the 12th century until 1809, Finland was then a Russian grand duchy until, following the Russian Revolution, the Finns declared independence on December 6, 1917." And just as Swedish Lapland wasn't a part of Sweden, neither was Finnish Lapland.
We love Finland. Sometimes they are a bit sulky because we are better than them in hockey.... And we are prettier of course. And now you know why we hate Russia.
You are not prettier. I visited Sweden and just like other countries there are beautiful and less beautiful ppl. I think Sweden and Finland are as good in hockey. Think about the population. Sweden has got two times more ppl than Finland. They have got more selections.
Video is mainly stupid. I am Finn. In past was german song, what is in english "I love to hate You", it was love song, married couple, love and hate. Finland have little similar situation with Sweden. Partly because history, Sweden did had many wars, last war end 17.09.1809. Officers was mainly from Sweden, soldiers was almost totally from that part Sweden what is now called Finland. Officers got more land from king and soldiers got almost nothing, except death. Winter war some Swedish helped Finland 1939-1940. Sweden was and is richer and bigger than Finland. Sometimes Finland is better in ice hockey, world championship games, to 1980's Finland was terrible when Sweden was good. Norway have oil, Danmark have sandwiches and beer, Sweden have bad beer and sausages. In Finland We have little better beer than Sweden and better sausages. In Sweden they talk talk and talk more and then they talk before how to do job, then they begin job, in Finland We begin job, then We talk how to do it better. Things change, but in past it was that way.
@@holoholopainen1627 Canada has a total of 50 medals (26 gold, 15 silver, 9 bronze), including those for which Olympic medals double as world championship medals.
Saku Koivu was Habs captain from the time I was 12 to 24 years old. I grow up a huge Montreal Canadiens and Saku Koivu fans. So when I say that Sweden are better at Ice Hockey, it's not to downgrade how good Finnish players also are but to respond to some people from our previous videos who came out with the "world ranking", who hilariously had Germany #5 above of Sweden... lol!
Saku were my schoolmste among with few another NHL players u might know. Kipper (Flames), Nummelin in Columbus etc.
And we are Olympic champions!! 😝😝
Ofc I know them too :).
Calgary Flames retires Kipper Jersey - He has landed to Calgary already !
The Nordic countries are like siblings that love each other but also make fun of each other! And we never want to loose against a sibling in sports!!
and basically the one we make fun of is Sweden.
Strangely enough in Sweden we only make fun of Norwegians. Have whole books of "Norwegian-jokes" at home but never ever heard any about Danes or Finns. It's strange because in general I believe Denmark is the nation that we compare our selves to the most amongst the Nordic nations. A football game against Denmark is win or die, doesn't matter if it's a friendly game.
@@northbreeze0198 I live in Skåne. We definately make fun of danes 🤣
true but also we aren't butthurt of that. Imagine when Canada loses in ice hockey. That's mental
As we say here in Finland, it doesn't matter who wins as long it is not the Swedes.
We say the same in Norway.
We always root for our neighbours in Sweden. It always makes me a bit sad that you have this complex against us.
As a Swede, I found it triggering. I know you don´t hate us, but we are siblings. There can be blood...😂😂
You Swedes should take that as a compliment. Your "siblings" are a bit jealous and we know you can stand a bit of "friendly" bullying. But like between siblings, if things get serious, we help and stand for each other.
@@jaketzi8816 Well said.
sweden norway finland and denmark:) we are neighbours and we love and hate eachother! but if something serious would happen we are standing straight for eachother so dont mess with the north:)
Finalnd, Norway and Denmark all make fun of Sweden and Swedes. I guess this is because Finalnd was a part of Sweden for 700 years, Norway was forced into a Union with Sweden for 100 years and Sweden and Denmark had so many wars and in the end Sweden won Halland, Slåne and Blekinge from Danmark. So basically a lot of history where Sweden was the bully. Swedes on the other hand only make fun of Nowegians. More often than not it's the same jokes, Sweden and Norway just switch places in the jokes.
Those damn Swedes can also be more arrogant than humble. Just ask other Nordics. 😁 🇫🇮❤️🇸🇪
No, we make fun of the Finns and Danes and Icelandic people too. That's more mature jokes though, usually with some substance.
The typical Norway-Sweden jokes are more on a 9-year old bully level, pretty darn boring at this point. 😇
Oh no. Not again 😂. Fuel for the Finnish low(er) selfestime. The video you watched, was just trolling. The truth is: we Finns love Sweden. They are our closest friends and brothers. 💙💛
We love you too. We may no longer be one nation, but we are still one people ❤ Finlands sak är vår 🇫🇮🇸🇪
Much love from Sweden. Finlands sak är evigt vår. We will always be bound as brothers.
Love to you from Sweden.
In years 1100-1300 Sweden was already christian kingdom and finland was pagan tribes, not one nation. Sweden conquered Finnish tribal areas during those years about -ish, set their rule on finland and started to force christianity.
Russia took finland in the early 1800's. Finland did exist as an area of course and people there were under swedish rule - but finnish. With their own culture and language.
Finnish politics uses Sweden's situation now with the immigrant policies as a warning and try to prevent that. Let us see.
There is definately friendship and frenemy-situation going on between finland and sweden. Many also have family ties in the other country.
My family is from another Scandinavian country but I grew up in Sweden so I’ve had to listen to this petty fake rivalry sh-t all my life and I’ve grown very tired of it. I don’t find it endearing or humorous at all, mainly I think it’s sad and a waste. You have neighbor countries that are 99% identical to you. That’s potentially huge a resource and a benefit to take advantage of but no you’re going to hyper-focus on the minuscule differences and be all jealous and petty and dumb.
Dane speaking? Nice to hear a refreshing point of view on this matter for once anyhow. :)
Sweden just has got everything easier than Finland. They have managed to stay outside of wars for 200 years (before that they were a rich empire), while Finland started to build everything practically from zero in 1945, ravaged by wars. When you compare the two countries you must take into account where they started. In that regard Finland is actually a huge success story.
Rich Empire might be a slight overexcageration lol. We were piss poor and often survived though (especially french) subsidies. 200 years ago when the "Empire" fell with the loss of Finland we might have been the poorest nation in Europe really.
But totally agree on the part of Finland being a success story. It was vital that you held off Stalin. And you managed the cold war very well taking advantage of your preferential position to export stuff to the Soviets but at the same time maintaining your western connections.
That was a bit silly video you watched but lots of truth in it as well. Sweden is like the annoying brother of every Nordic country! Now I feel a bit a sorry for them because of their trouble with crime rates and gang related drug wars. I hope they will be able to solve that somehow.
In fact, those Nordic regions named as "Novgorod" belonged to nobody. It was a 'no man' s land' inhabited mostly by Lapps and Finnic tribes. Moscow or Novgorod never reached that up north.
All the older borders in that video are inaccurate, because they expect the countries/nations to have existed and borders have been set as they are now.
In fact, the Finnic tribes were a major group of ethnicities in the Northern Europe from the Ural to the Atlantic Ocean until the Middle Ages. They were just very sparse on a very wide area. According to that, many Russian place names are originated to early Finnic, like Moskva (Moscow). The river Neva, running through St. Petersburg, is of later Finnic origin: 'neva' still means a type of swamp in Finnish, and it meant 'swamp' when Peter the Great built his capital city on the Finnic soil. (Not saying: Finnish.)
Finland is that little brother that you have to tolerate. :D
There are quite conflicting accounts on HOW Sweden and Finland eventually became one country, but as a summary:
Sweden was a Christian country back in the 1300s, old accounts from those days say that the king of the time decided to go on a "crusade" to the lands in the East (current Finland). There they supposedly forced the Finns to become Swedish subjects.
More modern research into this has made people question if this crusade ever even happened, most likely it didn't.
What we DO know is that the area known today as Finland was basically just wilderness, with some Finnish tribes scattered about. The Swedes and the Finns traded a lot, and there was also some fighting, but there was no "Sweden conquered Finland". Partly because Finland did not exist, but that is just a technicality, the other point is that Sweden naturally grew into current day Finland, and the people who lived in the areas where the Swedes started to settle, where treated as Swedish peasants, like in actual Sweden. So, over time, the Finnish tribes just became Swedes. They spoke a strange language no Swede could understand, but as stated, they were counted as Swedes and had the same rights and obligations. Finland became very important for Swedish defense against Russia.
You could say that Finland was the shield, while Sweden was the sword.
Nobody like the upper class back in those days. It is understandable that the Finns negatively associate Swedish-speakers with aristocracy, in Finland, but for every Finn that had it bad back in those days, by math there would probably be 2x more Swedes who had it just as bad. All the Nordics were absolutely p***-poor until the 1900's came around, and the peasants where the worst off.
In the video, the Finn is quite sarcastic, so this makes the things he says quite confusing if you are not well-versed in our history. He is of course exaggerating a bit, but for example when he says that Finland provided for example soldiers to the Swedish army - this is true. However, Swedes were drafted just the same.
You know that to complain on things in your country is actually a good thing. Because it means that we want to make it better, and therefore we strive to make it better and better all the time 😃
I'm all for it but perhaps a new Grotesto song called "Invandrarnas fel" is needed! :)
Sweden makes fun of Finland too, and Norway
Sweden and Finland could arguably be the closest to brother-nations there are. Apart from being the same country for 700 years until the Russians conquered the latter in 1809 we share almost the same culture, customs and legal framework.
I love Finland and would defend them as I would my own country. It's a special connection especially since there are hundreds of thousands Swedish speaking Finnish nationals and many Finnish in Sweden. We share a common heritage and apart from wanting to win in ice hockey I've never ever met a fin that hold any grudge against Sweden. Nordic brothers!
We where united again yesterday, Hungarian parlament voted yes for Swedish NATO membership.
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Finns dislike Sweden because we owned them for hundreds of years, I think it's time to get over that crap now since we sent tens of thousands of soldiers to help them stay free from Russia. Their butthurt is peculiar, reminds me of Poland being sassy towards Russia and Germany (which also without German training and assistance during war time Finland would be a vassal state under Russia post WW2). And no, Im not being a snob now cause I level the same criticism towards Swedens attitude vs Denmark. We've been in the most amount of wars in the world with each other as national states but that stuff's old, we should move on and better our relations in the Nordic region because we share a lot with each other. Nordic alliance now, and no stupid NATO! And politically Finland and Denmark are better than Sweden, so this childish fighting is totally pointless.
Nordic countries are all family. Only we can fight like cats and dogs against each other. If anyone else tries to pick a fight with one of us, you will learn how tight we are...
As a swede, the finns are my favorites..as long as they dont beat us at hockey.. The Norwegians are annoying as hell though. They often kick our swedish ass when it comes to cross country skiing... And they sure like rubbing it in... well.. I guess we do the same though when given a chance. :)
We have it really, really good in sweden. Some people in Sweden are just unhappy with all the immigrants that have come to sweden
After "Bögarnas fel", Grotesco should make "Invandrarnas fel".
Correction - not with all the immigrants, but with some immigrants; particularly those who "fled" to Sweden but refuse to adapt to Swedish standards (equality, freedom of speech etc.). Quite a difference! It's a fact though that virtually all shootings/bombings in Sweden in recent years are related to first or second generation immigrants - various groups are fighting each others, and sometimes ordinary citizens are caught in the crossfire. With that being said - the absolute majority of immigrants have adapted to the Swedish society and are striving to contribute to the nation's welfare system.
@@MaxSujyNorden To be serious - almost all the shootings/bombings in recent years are almost entirely related to first or second generation immigrants. With that being said - the absolute majority of immigrants have adapted to Swedish society and are hard working people, contributing to the national welfare.
IIHF rankings: Men Finland 2nd - Sweden 6th. Women Finland 4th - Sweden 8th. Hmm....
I don't take IIHF rankings ever seriously.
Nice & Good Video ! Take a look at Forest Finns - Finnskogar ! So many Swedes have Finnish roots... when We were just One Country !
I like you Max and Sujy, thanks for reacting Finland. You are good people. Take care and love.
Thank you!
Its this, we are sibling countries and we have this "Nordic council"!
In anyway. any finish citicen need to learn at least three languages, Finish, Swedish and English!
Its becuse of history, but there is areas where people still speak swedish.. they have to learn finish!
Now Estonia like to be a member of our "Nordic council.. becuse they are cousines to finland, ethnical and language!
Finnar kallas FINNISH - på Engelska ! Ruotsalainen means a Swede in Finnish ! Many Swedes do not know The National Game of Finland is Finnish Baseball ! In Swedish BOBOLL - in Finnish PESAPALLO !
@@holoholopainen1627 Sorry for that.. I always get caught between three speling system! In anyway in swedish Soumi spells "Finland"!
@@stiglarsson8405 Hur svårt kan det vara att stava ? As I wrore our SALMING - Reijo Ruotsalainen - means a Swede - but suomalainen means a Finn ! FINSKA är suomi - talar Du finska - puhutko suomea !
That voice is Ismo's! He's a great a Finnish commedian :)
He make it sound like Sweden invaded Finland. That is not really True. There existed no Finland, prior to that. Actually, there didn´t even exist a Sweden.
The colonization if Finland started pre history and some 5-10% of current day Finland was already part of Svealand (Sveacountry) before Svearike was created. The first Kingdom of Sweden.
When the first Kingdom of Sweden spawned it was almost as much in current day Finland as in current day Sweden. Under this period both current day Finland and current day Sweden the kingdom was expanded into. After 300 years under the First kingdom of Sweden most of current day Finland was controlled by the country but only about half of Current day Sweden.
After that the kingdom of Sweden was devolved into a country called the Kamlar Union. Kamlar union was a absolutely massive country by the standard of that day.
After some 150 year of Kamlar Union there was a revolt in Stockholm, executing/killing/murdering (depending on your position) all the pro Kamlar Union nobility in Stockholm. This spawned the Second Kingdom of Sweden (and that is considered the same nation as today). The second kingdom of Sweden had broadly the same borders as the first, but expanded more into the wilderness of both current day Sweden and Finland. At the inception about 80% of current day Finland was contained in the nation and about 55% of current day Sweden.
At the time Sweden was pretty much 4 states. Norrland, Sveland (that is sort of the ruling elite of Sweden both today and then), Götaland and Österland. Later also Skåneland would be added.
Skåneland was at very early days the most powerful nation in Scandinavia, hence giving the name Scandinavia to the whole reason, Scania is english/lathin for Skåne. Stockholm is so bitter of it that to this day Skåneland is nowhere on even the maps of today.
Here is the thing, everyone in Götaland, Sveland and Skåneland, and most of the people in Norrland speaks a sort of trans Scandinavian language. That is also true for the different part of Denmark and Norway (and technically also Iceland).
Over the over 1000 year of constant border shifting, the language of Scandinavia have harmonized to a degree that basically everyone in Norway Denmark and Sweden can understand each other well.
But finish is something totally different. not even close. There is no way to flex between Swedish and Finish. So while people Speaking finish and Swedish mixed. And also created new families. During the time it was Sweden. Most families choice Swedish for there children (if they was mix language couple) but after that its the other way around.
So when Sweden lossed Finland to Russia a bit over 20% of current day Finland was Swedish. But after that time Swedish have been reduced quite fast.
Note, this is important. There never was a Finish border pre the war with Russia. The current Finish border was created as a peace deal with Russia. And they took Torneå river sleight down as well as took Åland.
Here is the thing. Åland was never Finish prior to that point. Also some part of the main land was never Finish. Åland was, and is to this day 100% Swedish.
On the flip side, in what would become the Swedish part of Lapland there was plenty of Finish people. That would diminish fairly fast, but the cultural effect are still there to this day.
While Swedish is a official language of Finland, Finish is a protected language of Sweden. This is in scarp contrast to Scanian that is to be reticulated every day all day still to this day.
Anyway, in Finish the city of Stockholm is named Tokholm. And if read in Swedish it roughly translate late to "crazytown". And to be really clear in all Signs in Finland that refers to Stockholm, it says "Tokholm/Stockholm"
In Norrland Stockholm is refered to as "fjollträsk" that is not a official name, but general spoken, roughly translated as "gay marshland". And Götaland and Skåneland have simular names... Yea... Its Stockholm the issue, not Sweden
Åland has been inhabited by people from both sides. They just shifted towards Swedish eventually, because the Swedish presence was stronger. They still have some old place names derived from Finnish. But I think it's better that Åland has an autonomy under Finland, because geographically it's naturally connected to mainland Finland with the archipelago.
Stockholm in finnish is Tukholma. Not Tokholm
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@@jxhl666 Tokholm sounds more accurate...
@ place names in finnish rarely end with a consonant. That includes place names that have a translated finnish name, like Tukholma, Tallinna, Kööpenhamina, Moskova, Pariisi etc.
So if we used Tokholm because it sounds more accurate, it would've still propably have become Tokholma or Tokholmi and I think that Tukholma just sounds better. And it feels better to pronounce in finnish.
If it was literally translated it would be Tukkisaari
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Sadly Sweden has lost places in Happynes scale from the 2005, same as school we had the best school´s in the world until the beginning of 1990s
Sweden irritating? How?
Finland was never a part of Sweden, but the southern part of what is *now* Finland was.
Wrong. Google it or dig out your schoolbooks. The whole Finland was a part of Sweden.
@@butterflies655I knew the answer, but still, this what google told me "A part of Sweden from the 12th century until 1809, Finland was then a Russian grand duchy until, following the Russian Revolution, the Finns declared independence on December 6, 1917."
And just as Swedish Lapland wasn't a part of Sweden, neither was Finnish Lapland.
We love Finland. Sometimes they are a bit sulky because we are better than them in hockey.... And we are prettier of course.
And now you know why we hate Russia.
You are not prettier. I visited Sweden and just like other countries there are beautiful and less beautiful ppl.
I think Sweden and Finland are as good in hockey. Think about the population. Sweden has got two times more ppl than Finland. They have got more selections.
Video is mainly stupid.
I am Finn. In past was german song, what is in english "I love to hate You", it was love song, married couple, love and hate. Finland have little similar situation with Sweden. Partly because history, Sweden did had many wars, last war end 17.09.1809. Officers was mainly from Sweden, soldiers was almost totally from that part Sweden what is now called Finland. Officers got more land from king and soldiers got almost nothing, except death. Winter war some Swedish helped Finland 1939-1940. Sweden was and is richer and bigger than Finland. Sometimes Finland is better in ice hockey, world championship games, to 1980's Finland was terrible when Sweden was good.
Norway have oil, Danmark have sandwiches and beer, Sweden have bad beer and sausages. In Finland We have little better beer than Sweden and better sausages.
In Sweden they talk talk and talk more and then they talk before how to do job, then they begin job, in Finland We begin job, then We talk how to do it better. Things change, but in past it was that way.
00:24 man You are Canadian man. Have Your patriotismus or not . Look history Canadian ice hokkey and then correct Your self. period.
Correct myself about what?
@@MaxSujyNorden About how many world icehockey medals have Canada teams win.
@@MaxSujyNorden Canada have at icehokey world chanpionships total 50 medals inclundinc 26 G O L D medals.
Only Montreal has 24 Stanley Cups
@@holoholopainen1627 Canada has a total of 50 medals (26 gold, 15 silver, 9 bronze), including those for which Olympic medals double as world championship medals.